Explaining What Happened To Ironhide's Iconic Cannons

[@Breadn11]

The amount of research you did just to get a good source for the claim about the cannons is insane. Thank you for staying committed to providing accurate information, especially with how easy it is to slide in rumors for engagement.

[@Theorymus]

Anytime man, my goal is to be as accurate as possible with theses videos, especially with all the misinformation other TF content creator's have spread ✌️

[@-.patty.-]

Hi bread dog

[@Breadn11]

@@-.patty.- hi patty

[@amyawolford]

@@Theorymus your the Vaccine for the false TF info virus man

[@lDeath_]

Thatsnwhy i watch ur vids to get more knowledge​@@Theorymus

[@daydragoon331]

The fact that 2 generations had to witness a traumatizing Ironhide death is insane

[@_s-p-e-c-t-r-a_music_]

And it was even more brutal than the last time...and in both deaths, ironhide lost his head lmao

[@NurseAmamiya]

​​​@@_s-p-e-c-t-r-a_music_ though I've long moved on from that overrared death scene in dotm, I think in comparison, G1 Ironhide had the easy way out during the 86 movie. Bayverse Ironhide literally had to suffer rusting alive to death.

[@agent_bumblebee]

It’s kinda criminal that Ironhide never got a chance to use his Heavy Iron blasters in DOTM, like imagine how cool it would have been to see it in action. Oh well, at least we get to see it in action in the DOTM video game.

[@amyawolford]

I didn’t play it yet

[@amyawolford]

WAIT HOLD IT, HE DID USE THE RIFLE WHEN CROWBAR LUNGED AT HIM. HE SHOT HIM

[@agent_bumblebee]

@@amyawolford He did shoot at him, but it wasn’t the Heavy Iron blasters. Instead he used Crowbar’s own blaster on him, because it’s much shorter compared to them.

[@Quantum0110]

“Class dismissed” - Ironhide 2011

[@bozrahct]

He’s one of the best teachers 🛻

[@therandomestoftherandomest6164]

no

[@OGLadiesman217]

@@therandomestoftherandomest6164 tf u mean no

[@amyawolford]

I got an A+ by bringing a Minigun

[@CNA_Productions-SM]

Then he got dismissed by some red old man

[@lonewolfnergiganos4000]

I still find it impossible to get over Ironhide's death, it's been over a decade, but I still can't get over it.

[@jesserodriguez8116]

“I keep telling everyone they should move on. Some do. But not us.” -Captain America

[@justinarzola4584]

I'm still mad about it to this day, I'm glad Sentinel got his just desserts in the end.

[@amyawolford]

I wish he lived, but I’m not that mad honestly

[@_s-p-e-c-t-r-a_music_]

Ironhide has always been one of my favorite auotbots from the start, and I'm still sad about it too. However, I think it was a good call to have him die as it cemented the stakes of the film and made the ending hit so much harder, knowing that the autobots had to lose some friends along the way to save chicago. (poor que, that's like executing an innocent grandpa, lmao)

[@TerminatorTheory]

he lived like 3 movies at least he's not like Que or Edmund Burton where they live like the whole movie as awesome characters and died

[@bionic-tale4313]

Fun fact: Each of Ironhide's arm cannons are actually given names and are a bit different in their functionality in the guide books. The cannon on his right arm is called the radical missile launcher, which is supposely designed to shoot out missiles and other physical projectiles to shoot at his enemies. While the other cannon on his left is named the fission chamber which seems to be designated as a energy weapon as demonstrated by Ironhide by pounding the ground with it to melt the tires of the Sector seven vechicles to prevent them from pursuing his comrades. However despite this, Ironhide seems to shoot different projectiles from both cannons, most commonly energy shells or rockets at his opponents. Though I heard the claim that Ironhide's cannons are actually made up of various types weapon systems that he can shiftly configure to better adapt whatever situation he's in. Plus, we see ironhide constantly reconfigure his cannons in some of his scenes in the movies. A nice little detail that almost make it seem like he can't make up his mind on what type of round to fire.

[@vindicatorschannel7136]

I swear it would be so cool to see ironhide with both his heavy irons and cannons. I also wished he actually used them in the movie before he died.

[@haydennorris8062]

He did in the DOTM game

[@AfterthymeGaming]

​@@haydennorris8062that's only one of his guns as his second gun was given by Wheeljack in the film.

[@haydennorris8062]

@@AfterthymeGaming He used both in the geame

[@Pigpen_YT]

Honestly I just figured Ironhide’s new weapons were just a result of Hasbro wanting new toys. Basically his new weapons were to tie in with the Mechtech toyline like how in the DOTM game Ironhide got the Heavy Iron 2.0 rifle. Interesting to know they just came from them wanting to change up the designs. Great video!

[@ZipperPSGameplays]

I would like to see you interview Peter Cullen and Frank Welker.

[@christianparrish3292]

Me too

[@bozrahct]

Me three

[@Darthvaderr-i3w]

Me four

[@goldenproductions7831]

Me five

[@Bricky_comedian]

Me six ( even though it’s technically seven )

[@azurehorizon6097]

I remember how in the DOTM game, Ironhide uses his right arm weapon as an Autocannon, obviously it was just for gameplay purposes, but my personal head canon for this is that he still has the "Autocannon" after the Battle of Egypt as we can see from the Movie, he continues using it until the Battle in Detroit where he battles Mixmaster and during that fight his right arm weapon gets damaged irreparably (Let's say this happened when Ironhide tried blocking one of Mixmaster's shots from his turret ability) so he could only use his Heavy Iron rifles, which he used to eventually dispose of Mixmaster. That's how I personally think he goes from still having his right arm weapon, to suddenly not having it in the DOTM Movie

[@bionic-tale4313]

That would be the most logical headcannon, though we still see on his character model that he still has his left cannon still intact and attached on his arm.

[@azurehorizon6097]

@@bionic-tale4313 I guess High Moon forgot about that little detail where he shouldn't have his left cannon at that point in time, guess I forgot about that since you don't always see it in game, it's really only noticeable in cutscenes

[@CyberFilms3]

Imagine if Ironhide had a stealth mode where his cannons became blasters at the front or boosters to go faster 🤯

[@bionic-tale4313]

I think we see Ironhide use them in vechicle mode this way in the Dark of the moon game.

[@CyberFilms3]

Oh wow, definitely would love to see that!

[@MrFedoraFilm]

6:35 Say hello to my little friend.

[@Blitzwingsbase]

One of my head cannons is that after the battle of Egypt he went looking for his other cannon after he took it back to nest hq he buried both of them in a grave and just stared at the grave for a while as everyone else was getting sorted out

[@klikssiikubra314]

Thank you so much for dispelling myths at the beginning of the video. Most channels like this just accept random word of mouth claims rather than actually tracking down a source for them. I think another good video idea would be calculating what Devastator's total weight should be given the alt forms composing him

[@Theorymus]

Anytime man, when it comes to theories, you have to base them on as much factual information as possible

[@kieferholster4900]

Love your vids bro, you make me enjoy the bay movies even more. Hope you continue to have success in the ever changing KZbin system.

[@Theorymus]

Thanks man, that really means a lot 👍

[@KaygeeFromNanotrasen]

The research and journalism you do for these videos is simply amazing. Keep it up Theo

[@Theorymus]

🫡

[@Breadn11]

"Grr, that's gonna rust."

[@Military_optank6]

"I discharge you from duty" *shoots*

[@dagon1523]

@@Military_optank6 "you didn't betray me you betrayed yourself" *shoots again*

[@QcTreyWay22YT]

2:03 I follow RBG. His transformers claims and theories are really good and plausible

[@incidentalreelz]

Good for you

[@asramohamed5601]

You just never run out of transformers content Your videos are better while in bed or with popcorn. Your videos are great to binge on and Rip - ironhide Year of death:2011 Cause of death: betrayed and got rusted by sentinel Last words: class dismissed. Consider it done What have you done Noooooo Remembered in our hearts medal of Horner for weapon specialist ironhide 🏅 may you rest in peace with jazz

[@ZipperPSGameplays]

Awesome video as usual.

[@Theorymus]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ZipperPSGameplays]

@@Theorymus I love your if I survived videos. Your videos make a great backdrop to listen to when I'm working.

[@LIGHTBL0X]

“Feeling Lucky, Punk” - Ironhide 2007

[@alfonsonation]

I saw a video on Bay Ironhide and ran over. I honestly didn't realize parts of the right cannon was still there in DOTM. That's actually so cool. I do miss them and would've loved seeing him use all 4 blasters in DOTM since it was his final salute in the Bayverse. Or at least a cameo of Heavy Iron 2.0 as shown in the DOTM game. I knew they fell off in ROTF, but didn't realize all the other details you hunted down, and pointed out. Great video! 🔥

[@DillonTrinhProductions]

Nice video as always Theorymus.

[@Achieme]

8:32 I figured as he got wind of NEST commencing Operation firestorm he was still in the area and had no choice but to fight for his life in order to survive and decided to go all out unloading every shot at the Decepticons until he was out ouf ammo or possibly the left canon was actually damaged during the fight and when he got wind of firestorm he just ran for his life while being heavily damaged.

[@FennekinTF]

Great video, Theorymus/Jason!! Very informative and in-depth! Only the best from Theorymus!! Keep it up, man! Also, I think it'd be cool to hear your thoughts/ideas on what Transformers 3 (ROTB sequel) could be abt and the setting (year, places, etc). It'd be a fun video! 😄 It wouldn't really be a "proper" theory per-se, it'll just be some fun speculation and stuff! I personally think it should take place in 1995 or '96, but thats all I've got ideas-wise. Also, I'd love for Ironhide, once he makes his proper appearance in the movies, to have a design that is ofc based on his BBM design, but also takes inspiration from his TFP concept design and a tad of Bayverse, mainly the arm-cannons, which would be redesigned a bit to better fit into the whole Knightverse aesthetic. And, he'd turn into a red pickup truck with orange stripes down both sides.

[@Bunodella]

amazing how they kept the continuity of such a small detail as ironhides arm canons but not the actual story

[@mixmasterfanboy6223]

Nice video! Keep making great videos

[@treebotreviews]

Initially I thought the cannons were just there but stowed in DOTM but you opened my eyes to them being seperate pieces!! Great video dude!

[@WhatFaction]

Theorymus, if you look back at ROTF, a specific scene where the fallen took the Matrix Of Leadership from prime, if you look closely at ironhide, you'd see him draw out his Right Cannon trying to shoot at the fallen, but realizes the fallen disappeared infront of them, as ironhide tried to get back up his Left cannon looks destroyed and broken and the front of the cannon ultimately missing suggesting that it indeed was shot off by a decepticon. (Idk why it was still on him, but they probably left it out by the animators cuz' they thought no one would notice ironhide's cannons still intact due to the audience focused more at prime being alive again)

[@shakedown3268]

I thought this argument was settled years ago, but with all this new information I realized that no matter how true something seems, we can't be certain that everything said has all that we need to know laied out in front of us, which is the main reason why theories and speculations exist

[@rainbowracer9576]

Awesome Video!👏✨

[@M.A.S.K._Crusader]

CALLING ALL AUTOBOTS!!

[@some_body_else3636]

okay but they most likely did this to sell the mech tech stuff, that's not the first time they did something like this

[@julianvillarreal1450]

Late comment, but nice job explaining and researching the information you didn’t include in your previous videos. It’s a shame Ironhide was killed in Dark Of The Moon. He was one of the best autobots. Also, yesterday was my birthday. I do apologize for not telling you about it. I was very busy hanging out with my family. I had a fun birthday yesterday.

[@Tiny_TimStopmo]

"Punk Ass Deception" -Ironhide

[@FireFlies002]

I actually never thought much about why ironhide lost his cannon until today.

[@urboimemer]

I question I have a Ironhides canons is, what part of the alt mode is the canons?

[@TheThundermation]

You known.. When it comes how transformers repaired a wound, I always thought they could just SCAN a new vehicle mode lol

[@javivaki]

There should be a Studio Series DOTM Ironhide; though, I do wonder if he'll have the cylinders on his forearms to keep screen accuracies while carrying the new weaponry. I also hope that there's a orange g1 inspired repaint, to pay homage to Ironhide's original DOTM voyager toy repaint. I only ever saw that figure at store once and regret not getting it. It'll be cool to see it again along with other classic repaints.

[@stanshatter3875]

Talking about his parts hurts a chuck of all fans' childhood, knowing he lied in pieces. 😢

[@Cybercollectors-om8gz]

We need a forgotten toy lines video 🙏🙏🙏

[@TheGhost-rp3ko]

Hopefully one day Trans can interview Jess Harnell

[@Theorymus]

That would be awesome if I could 🫡

[@DominikGordon-h2s]

I love your videos can you pls make a vid about what happened to chromia after rotf and hound,crosshairs, and drift orgins

[@amyawolford]

Who else is sad that Ironhide wasn’t in Rise Of The Beasts

[@Cold_PHcpm]

That concept art of Ironhide with a firkin mini gun goes hard

[@silversnow3171]

I would love to see that version of Ironhide w/ the minigun, almost terminator-equs to the Decepticons

[@soccerandtrack10]

8:30 "this also is the only part of the cannon that carried over.", double meaning=the cannon litterly was in the 3rd movie. but the cannon gun is still cannon/confirmed in both movies.

[@aaroneclipse514]

I would love to see you investigate what happened to the supposed 30 minutes cut-out from TLK.

[@Theorymus]

That is a topic I am interested in, however their is not that much information about it available

[@aaroneclipse514]

@@Theorymus I remember the Ragin Nation back during their Road to TF 5 campaign, did a video where apparently the 3-hour runtime of the movie got leaked and Bay had to cut it down due to backlash. We do see some frames in the trailers that weren’t in the movie. Plus there were some audience screenings where apparently the origins of Prime and Megatron were explained in the opening of the film and we even have some concept art on it. That would also explain the unusually fast pacing since Bay doesn’t typically make fast-paced movies. I’m sure there would be some details on this puzzle that we can track down.

[@tardiscommand1812]

7:37 just solved what happened to Mikaela. She’s holding Major Lennox hand in times of trouble and not Sam’s.

[@coinstudiosprod7028]

Ironhide's guns were cool, to bad they weren't used at all

[@vain3207]

7:20 The blue sister is still alive

[@BreadTransformers]

"Class dismissed" -RIP Ironhide

[@OneGuy410]

i know this is off topic but i think the one of the reasons that Optimus primes design changed in age of extinction is the parts were reduced significantly due to the previous model having 10k parts but the new model had less

[@_V.Va_]

It's actually fucking crazy to see Ironhide get outgunned in the Battle of Egypt.

[@Solunaritic]

Ironhide dying is like seeing optimus die 💀

[@Drahelix]

I like your videos Theorymus

[@TVNRobot9000]

Fub fact: Bro knows the future and is scared of the future "COVID" 😂

[@rooneon]

My assumption in dark of the moon for why parts of his cannons were still on his arm was because in the dark of the moon video game ironhide has stealth force and has little boosters in his truck bed

[@HazyGlasses]

nice vid

[@BungieStudios]

It might have 10K parts, but the animators aren't going to be manipulating each one every time. They'll set up controllers and sliders to speed up the process. Animate it once and replay it as needed in a sense. Drag the slider and his cannon comes out. Drag it the other way and it goes back to being hidden. Some of the BTS footage you edited in showcases this indirectly.

[@arcticwarriors7014]

It has been a long time since the what if I survived video has been on your camera and I did want to see what if brawl blackout and bonecrusher survived and have blackout survive all 5 transformers movies

[@arcticwarriors7014]

Also have payload conversion long haul to change sides to the autobots but when bonecrusher hears this because hates the autobots he fights them but they both win and lockdown shows up and payload and long haul run away to join scrapper and one of two things happen either lockdown kills bonecrusher or they team up and bonecrusher dies to scrapper long haul and payload while bumblebee and Optimus Prime battle against lockdown and brawl survive until the last knight where he gets killed off at Stonehenge and blackout survives all 5 transformer movies and long haul payload and scrapper survive as well what do you think theorymus

[@Carpediem357]

Is the DOTM Game canon to the Bayverse films?? If so can you do a video theorizing on how Shockwave got to Earth and what happened to Soundwaves Mercedes Van? Also can you do some videos on what happened to John Keller and the TF1 crew that didn't return? I always wanted to know where Keller was during ROTF, DOTM, AOE and TLK

[@Theorymus]

The shoet answer is no, but I plan to cover this in depth in the future

[@yi_hou3092]

I'm honestly fine with the design revamp Ironhide got in DOTM In the Revenge of the Fallen Line he got a Retooled Recon Version which looked amazing at the time but still used the 2007 Transformation and a delux class that used the Revenge of the Fallen (PSP) Turrets as his alt Cannon The 2007 Ironhide like combinable Cannons iirc I kinda wished the he had that too

[@PyroBear1776]

Yo Jason, how please do a theory about Bumblbee’s missile launchers and why we have seen them more than twice nice.

[@kwezy2x]

cool vid

[@fearless144]

Theorymus could you do a video on the origins of the fallen from the transformers revenge of the fallen movie.

[@Tortaviejo123-cb8me]

Could you cover the Transformers Armada animes? Even though they're not related to the bayverse it would be interesting to learn your opinion of them.

[@webscgaminganimations3695]

Theorymus, if you see this, can you tell me the name of the ai voices you used in your dotm twins vid?

[@speedysleeper1340]

Except dotm Brawl, he now has a desert camouflage color scheme.

[@MBandss]

I just clocked u changed ur name from ‘Trans Theories’😂😂😂 good choice 👍

[@drummer7808]

Can you do a video on how that pickup truck deception got his robot form

[@drummer7808]

Was that dropkick we saw shooting the humans

[@mrduckator7545]

I forgot I watched that short the reason why ironnhide doesn't have any cannons because he injected the cannons

[@GabrielOnuris]

I wish the movies could give these kind of informations instead of wasting screen time with unnecessary jokes.

[@MaximusBoi-h9q]

The main reason why Ironhide doesn’t have his cannons in DOTM is due to something called “continuity errors”

[@Ryder-a-Blaze]

Ironhide looking like a bull shows how tough he was

[@LyntonleSigma]

Trans my theory is that maybe when it he retracted it since the shot could kill him maybe his other cannon blew up that’s my opinion tell me yours in reply’s

[@jaredpower1019]

I do hope one day hasbro would make dotm ironhide with 2 guns and maybe update his arms I know dna design made them but it was only the dotm guns and new bumper and new legs but it would be interesting to have the dotm studio series

[@devingonzalez4765]

I haven't read much of the comments so idk if I'm the first in saying this but anyway when I watched the rotf movie I noticed that after Optimus got revived the fallen comes and takes the matrix from him but in the background you can see Ironhide with his canons and I'm pretty sure that scene is after when he ditches his left canon it most likely was just a mistake but I just wish they could've went with him going back and retrieving his canon and just ran with that as I much prefer him with his canons more than his heavy irons

[@hotrod8573]

Great video. Would you do a video what if Sam wasn’t on the forest with Optimus Prime and if he would have survived without having to worry about Sam. 👍🏻

[@Nuggetboy2811]

Optimus would had destroyed them

[@christianparrish3292]

A lot of parts for the gun being expensive would definitely be a reason not to include them. And CGI is expensive. Very expensive.

[@drift6785]

Could you do a video explaining if the bumblebee movie is canon? How did optimus show up when in 2007 he landed with the other autobots?

[@Sayhiwana-qc7tv]

When Ironhide dropped the cannons, one of the missiles could have hit the cannon and it could not be salvaged.

[@MogusMasterSaikawa22]

great research I never could have figured it went that deep hasdfoi. a bit irrelevant but michael bay actually made fun of a few movies in the director commentary of transformers 2007 including a part where he bullies the star wars movies a bit comparing general grievous to optimus prime. just goes to show how much more complex these models were compared to anything else at the time oihadf

[@J_Cat3910]

Hello!

[@kingremix6111]

Trans give us a what I survive for Sideswipe or the twins

[@phuckhangnguyen9058]

can you do some research about dino the autobot in D.O.T.M , A.O.E and T.L.K

[@McSwirlywirly]

If I ever am able to get the rights to transformers I’d hire you

[@masteronmace]

How did Ironhide lose his cannons? Basically Ironhide nearly got teamkilled by NEST at Egypt

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

So they could sell toys

[@whist42]

where have you been?

[@Nuggetboy2811]

Takes time

[@ricardosmuts]

Ironhide connons are scrap metal now

[@Primalglitch]

You wanna know what would be cool if ironhide had both cannons and the 2 guns

[@adriangoesvroom]

The REAL reason ironhide lost his cannons: more toys

[@polarityfx]

Explain why u have KZbin on light mode

[@onetrackmind3558]

But why did he keep part on him anyway?

[@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730]

I implore you to read KaijuHobbit22's Transformers Movie rewrites, you will absolutely LOVE them. While not perfect, they do a lot of things from toning down the overuse of annoying human scenes to way toning down the extreme amount of deaths in the series to even overhauling the films' terminology to more accurately match the rest of the series Cybertronian vernacular.

[@tevinhoward4419]

He hadn't used em in the 3rd movie cause Que give him guns of his own invention

[@theshamegame2787]

Theorymus, do you know why Ironhide was suddenly killed off, or why absolutely NOBODY acknowledges his death? Nobody reacts to it really, and Optimus doesn't even mourn him, not even when he confronted Sentinel, did he bring up what he did. It's like Ironhide wasn't even meant to die, he just suddenly was killed off and the script wasn't altered to accommodate his death.

[@nicholasosorio6579]

Shortest answer for this is so that they can sell toys

[@mattdawg83686]

I loved the designs of the characters, but they were just over designed and too complex. The Bumblebee movie showed they could have kept the detail but use simpler designs to mirror their G-1 appearances.