Explaining Why Bowser is the Best Heavy

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[@fulvionguyen2502]

You can't call yourself a Bowser main unless you've mastered Bowser's Big Bean Burrito

[@chrispo7610]

I've speedrun bowser's big bean burrito

[@Storm1Trooper5]

Doesn’t that guy Dunkey hold the world record for it?

[@NanamoriYT]

@@Storm1Trooper5 I dont think he does anymore. Idk tho.

[@pklltinyz982]

What?

[@trashbeast]

man, bowser's come a long way since melee.

[@GarlicBread37]

And sheik has fallen a long way since melee. I hate sheik in ultimate. Barely fucking playable.

[@ryanparker8966]

@@GarlicBread37 I mean she has for sure gotten worse but to say she is unplayable is just wrong. Watch any of void’s sheik videos and you can see that she is more than playable. I’ve played sheik a lot and if you just put time into the character she can be very oppressive.

[@jcmm99]

@@GarlicBread37 bad take

[@QwertYuiop-yt3uh]

@@GarlicBread37 just because you're bad doesn't mean sheik is unplayable lol. Most top players think she's high tier. She's not easy because you need to practice her alot but for top players that's a good thing because she has absolutely godlike frame data and is considered to have the best neutral in the game and in turn godlike edgegaurding. Lower skilled players complain that she's bad because of her damage but that's literally because of her frame data and having to combo if she was any stronger she'd be way too oppressive

[@megachris2610]

@@GarlicBread37 I used to main her in melee I don’t play her in this game so your right

[@GanguroKonata]

Bowser rolling up through Fox's kicks like "I'm not Andross, boy"

[@karachoto]

terrifying

[@kaizerbeam7258]

If he uses the yellow alt it looks like DIO

[@CoolkiddVids]

"general scales? catch these spikes 😂"

[@Sly_Maverick_19]

@@kaizerbeam7258 MUDA

[@thenoseguy]

STANDING HERE

[@Lattie9001]

yo, Bowser lab monster here, lots of good info in there but there are also a few inaccuracies i'd like to point out and correct, and some clarifications on some stuff that happened throughout the vid: The main thing to correct is about the Armor. There's a looooot of misinfo floating around about how armor works in general and what are the types of armor and whatnot, it's a nightmare, so i'll do my best to explain how it works for Bowser's attacks at least. There are 3 main types of armor in this game, - Super Armor, it's armor that doesn't break. - Damage based Armor (or Damage Armor), only moves that deal enough damage break the armor. - Knockback based Armor (of KB Armor), only moves that deal enough knockback break the armor. (Heavy armor is an old term that actually means nothing in this game, some folks use it to mean any armor that can break but it's misleading and there's no actual definition for it that apply in Ultimate.) Tough Guy is KB Armor, which is why rapidjabs can't break it, but some rapidjabs will start breaking this armor with enough rage or when Bowser has enough percent, because they'll start dealing more KB. Bowser's Tilts and Smash attacks all have Damage Armor, any move that deals more than 4% will break the Tilt's armor, 8% for Up and DSmash, and 10% for FSmash. There's no Super Armor in Bowser's kit whatsoever, there would be blood in the streets if Bowser actually had Super Armor on his smashes. However, UpSmash and FSmash have invincibility frames on the Shell and on the Feet respectively when the hitboxes are active, this might be why some folks think it's Super Armor. 3:55 DAir has actually no invulnerability on it, the reason there's some blue in the UFD gif is because his limbs are intangible while they're tucked away in his shell, the rest of his body is completely vulnerable! 5:30 You can just hit or grab Hero during magic burst and it'll cancel the whole explosion, the spell is almost completely useless against Bowser. 9:00 It's actually the tilt's armor, not Tough Guy. 12:00 What you said about UpB is 100% correct, you need to wait before you mash to get max height, tho an important note is that mashing at the end only makes it so UpB goes slightly higher, and you're more often better off not trying to mash at all. In this scenario it looks like you would've been able to grab the ledge if you didn't mash. 12:05 yeah that's a known issue, if you get the zoom with DAir or DownB it's possible for Bowser to land during the zoom and for the shockwave to connect with the opponent, that weaker shockwave actually connecting is why he didn't fly as high as he should've. That's all, i think. Pretty much everything in the vid is correct aside from the few points i mentioned!

[@phy_]

Doin god’s work as always Lattie

[@niterush361]

Ofc both of you are going too be here lol. Cool.

[@camelotsr54]

To long didn’t read

[@ConlanHale]

Not surprised to see you here, keep repping bowsercord

[@kajuanlockett8980]

As a Bowser main, thanks for this. That last one, I feel no one knows about unless you actually main the Big Turtle. I hate landing that move above 100% and it sending nowhere. Probably more broken than Sonic’s up air and Falco’s up tilt and up smash, but never talked about.

[@daddyswaggums3578]

That horribly misspelled title is just seething with the energy of someone who lost to a laggy bowser in quick play and just made this video out of frustration.

[@karachoto]

IKR LMFAO

[@kyles5960]

@Julio Paulino yeah I wanna know too

[@Liam-mv9zi]

Julio Paulino "Explaing why Boswer is the Best Heavy"

[@rainer9931]

Rip he changed it

[@phy_]

Bowser is so damn good. I love this character

[@latabernadewiz7089]

Yo

[@KiravTM]

Yo phy I knew you would be here

[@bormahtiid3162]

How did I know you’d be here 😂. Larry’s giving us free Bowser propaganda now

[@haybusablack9473]

Yooooooooooo sup phy

[@Miniom56785]

Oh hi phy from the past

[@as-lb8rb]

Ah yes, my favorite smash character: *B O S W E R*

[@karachoto]

B O S W E R LMAOOOOO

[@GanguroKonata]

Supper Maro Word+Boswer's Furry

[@desmondcoppin591]

@Nico the boston terrier No, it’s boswer.

[@mechadracula3193]

Haha get it because he spelled it wrong

[@animashups9646]

@@mechadracula3193 *rong

[@redfire6605]

Some more interesting things about bowser (from a bowser main): He has the longest ledge attack in the game. I can't tell you how many times I've hit someone who was charging a smash attack while they thought they were out of range of my big meaty claw from the ledge. It's actually absurd. Bowser's tough guy is based on knockback, so some rapid jabs will break it at very high percents because they do just barely enough knockback to break it. On the other hand, tilts and smash attacks have damage-based heavy armor. Each one has a fixed percentage of damage that it can tank. Each tilt can tank 4%, dsmash and usmash tank 8%, and fsmash tanks 10%. This is affected by the 1v1 multiplier. Also usmash has shell invincibility and fsmash has leg invincibility. Dair and down b both have a splash hitbox. Dair especially benefits, as a lot of people try to space around the landing but get hit anyway. However, this can cause some jank. At 12:08 Larry hit the strong hit of down b, but then for some reason the splash hitbox also hit afterwards. This is why he got the fake kill screen (you can even hear the sound of the splash hitbox connecting after the kill screen). There's a clip somewhere of LeoN hitting a dair onstage at kill percent, getting the kill screen, and then the splash hitbox connected and they got sent nowhere.

[@Scrap_]

Oh so that’s what causes down b not to kill, thanks brother I have been wracking my brain on why that move doesn’t kill ever since the game came out.

[@ConMan]

Bowser walking through all those jabs/kicks was so menacing. lmao

[@okapi_q]

Real ones remember when Larry won that pre-release Smash 4 3DS tournament with Bowser and got him nerfed in the full game lol

[@juhadexcelsior]

lmao

[@voiceofreason2674]

@Pokemon Master the Wii U was a better product than the switch the switch just had better marketing and some good games at launch like breath of the wild and 2K

[@Bulleta420]

Wasn't it a Bowser ditto at the end lol

[@alexpotts6520]

2:28 "Tough Guy works against Magic Burst" As a Hero main, I found that one out the hard way...

[@damndanielcruz6754]

Can you explain a little more please

[@Miniom56785]

I found this out when I was playing against my friend and he magic bursted me, when I side bd him he looked me dead in the eye straight faced and said "that's fucking bullshit you better bowsercide so I can win" I won the game

[@socksleeve]

When I see Bowser, I have to ask “then why does Ganon suck so much”

[@AverageHandle_]

Same

[@richpichu1272]

Probably his archetype doesn’t work in smash particularly bowser is just unreasonably fast has good ariels

[@Erik_Montesinos]

Speed is the main reason

[@pikapower98]

Simple, It’s because Ganon has the worst air speed in the game, one of the slowest run speeds in the game, abysmal frame data, a bad recovery, and no fast out of shield options.

[@joey-js9pr]

@@pikapower98 a good nair is the only thing he has going for him

[@Cee-looo]

N-Air Confirms into a bunch of stuff depending on which hit you get and how many hits you get. This is probably the most unexplored part of Bowser.

[@datboi3795]

what do u mean the vast majority of bowsers players go for things like Nair to back air if they get the right amount of hits on the Nair

[@spazrocketgaming424]

@@datboi3795 What he is saying is that nair also confirms into other stuff and most boswers only do Nair bair.

[@Miniom56785]

Nair fair, nair bair, nair f-tilt, at high enough percents nair side-b. There are plenty of others probably, but these are the ones that I use the most.

[@denimator05]

3:00 Bowser can even survive his own Side-B off stage in a ditto match on every legal stage except battlefield, small battlefield, and FD (provided you're good at mashing)

[@hervisdaubeny6347]

Since when can you mash out of side b?

[@ohjonny95]

@@hervisdaubeny6347 you can't. He means the second Bowser can survive if he mashes up - b correctly once the one attempt Ing the bowsercide dies

[@denimator05]

@@hervisdaubeny6347 you can't, but the person doing the Side-B dies first, so if you jump fast enough and have a really good mash on Bowser's Up-B then you can make it back on certain stages

[@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771]

Bowser deserves to be high tier after being dog shit for 2 games in a row and getting nerfed to hell in the first game he was ok in

[@Ahahashir]

For anyone late, he spelled "Bowser" as "Boswer" in the title.

[@jorgefeliciano8183]

I couldn't live without that information thx

[@lorenzo689]

I am unable to perform life without having that data thank you

[@SuperAndrew64]

That's my twitch! Lol

[@crispyrice8258]

So when is this *Boswer* dlc character coming out?

[@roland5565]

@@usern4metak3ns b o z w e t t e

[@TemporaryRain]

Favorite type of videos you make! Diving deep into the characters and giving your input about them. Really enjoy these!

[@Sirus7009]

Miyamoto made him Simple answer as to why.

[@thedukeofchutney468]

It feels good to hear people talk about Bowser as a viable character. I’ve mained him since Melee and it’s awesome to see him getting some love!

[@gatolf2]

Bowser is the only heavy they gave a shit about when developing the game.

[@TyphonCH]

*cries in Incineroar* Too many gimmicks not enough actual balance

[@iswiftyfox8997]

@@TyphonCH exactly, inceineroar sucks but has revenge and side b, ganon sucks but has really op smash attacks, dee dee dee sucks but has

[@jaydencooke1805]

I could care less about Incineroar90% of the people that play that character now were laggy and love scamming people with their bad internet and side b

[@gatolf2]

It’s honestly annoying how good bowser is compared to all the other heavies.

[@emarythomp]

@@jaydencooke1805 idk what incineroars you’re playing against but I’ve never gotten a laggy incina

[@mokoufujiwara6089]

If you're close enough when Hero does the Magic Burst, you can also interrupt him out of it with a grab or even a fast enough smash.

[@emarythomp]

Also no one talks about how good bowsers up tilt and down smash are. Down smash I think is especially underrated considering how fast it comes out and it’s kill power is insane.

[@benro6564]

Fox-Bowser is one of my favorite matchups in the game as a Bowser player. Either player can just die at any moment and neither player is ever truly out of the game

[@christianglassel9950]

This is quickly becoming part of my daily viewing. It's clear, concise, and useful. Thanks, Larry.

[@raptordaraptor7861]

It upsets me far more than it should would people call bowser's tilt and smash armor his Tough Guy.

[@gamesandluigifan7152]

Bowser's smashes only have percentage based heavy armor, like his tilts, but they can take more damage before being interrupted

[@greedo194]

I think f smash has 10% armor and d smash has like 7,5%. Not that crazy

[@vepcat4803]

@@greedo194 yeah but they are slow enough that you would want to interrupt them with a week move plus up smash has invincibility

[@greedo194]

@@vepcat4803 yeah, but it's nothing compared to little mac smashes, is what I was trying to say

[@kingoftheseas9991]

Honestly if all heavyweights had similar move speed and frame data to Bowser they would actually be decent. Sure, some would still be combo food but at least they can actually play neutral.

[@TTG_JG]

11:18 is why Peach keeps calling Bowser to pick her up.

[@Revixy708]

8:55 that spike was disrespectful

[@yfidalv]

10:49 "yo did he just walk up, slowly, and DOWN SMASH?!"

[@Duckxeee]

0:22 STANDING HERE I REALIZE YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY!!!

[@geronimo_wilts6725]

Larry did a video about BOWSER. I'm now complete. And I love the things you went over. Fire is beautiful and tough guy is a blessing.

[@UmbraTWolf]

You should make a video discussing the Bowser vs DK Matchup. There’s still a huge debate about that and it would be awesome if someone finally made a video on it. Amazing video! I love Bowser^^

[@retrozilla1999]

Bowser: King of the Heavies!

[@Hello_World_not_taken]

Bowser: Moves like a car, hits like a truck!

[@ayyyyMan]

Just wondering is shield art kirby heavier than bowser? *Sorry boswer*

[@spazrocketgaming424]

Easily I'm sure

[@SuperOmega53]

As a bowser main, great video, just want to point out dair and down b both have a spike but only on the beginning of the move, also in the mirror bowser can live the bowsercide but it is really hard, a user called phy has a video on it

[@jonssogaming8255]

Bowser’s my favourite Nintendo character and he’s been my main in every Smash game I’ve played. I especially love playing him in Ultimate because he feels like an absolute beast and is more well rounded than previous games.

[@jamesatkins5692]

I’m a Bowser main so I Love seeing videos about him

[@dyldragon1]

12:07 Bowser Bomb's hitboxes near the his sides are spike hitboxes. Because he did that move on another Bowser (who has a large hitbox) he got the spike hitbox. Basically, use Bowser Bomb while ledge guarding against large characters, but don't try to kill them on stage with it.

[@ItsMeBigPanda]

some other things about bowser is he can jab into grab at low percents fair into grab at low to mid percents up throw is combo throw can lead to any aerial depending on di with no di its fair down b snaps to the ledge so thats a good option to just recover or get some cheese with down b spike side b out of sheild is very good mix up from up b because if they adapt and just sheild it you start doing side b jab 1 into down b is a pretty good sheild option but wouldnt do too much and lastly down throw is a good option rack up damage and just get them off stage

[@wisteqs6644]

3:07 bowser up b - the correct way to mash for extra height

[@verbicidal884]

I love maining bowser , they perfected the essence of his character, just a force of nature , the perfect heavy

[@jonssogaming8255]

Bowser: armours through jab Fox: why do I hear boss music

[@mr.fox8011]

Bowser's up-tilt is borderline broken. It kills and has ridiculous range

[@ComboFood]

12:09 a classic it normally happens if you get the kill screen the sour spot landing hitbox just kills all their momentum

[@gswiggy9486]

Been waiting on this one

[@privatedino3239]

I agree as a bowser main it’s fun to side special on your opponents last stock

[@deoxxys]

9:30 HOLY CRAP Freezy Peaks theme music from Banjo Kazooie 1! I would love to see Larry do play throughs of games besides smash. Like Banjo Kazooie or Hollow Knight.

[@mlghacker7259]

Bowser’s down b is a good mix up tool cause you can condition your opponent to shield and instant shield break

[@MyHatDefinesMe]

I made it in a Larry Lurr video and he put in my best combo of the match. Bless you, Larry Lurr.

[@funkykongisverycool]

he speedy, he stronk, but most importantly he is a monk

[@0ne_Hundred]

I prefer He speedy, he stronk, but most importantly, he hit like a tronk

[@Sightless-vz2wh]

Bowser is kinda carried he’s so fast and big I like Ness a lot but Bowser is definitely really really good!!! I play him and Ness and I don’t understand why he’s pretty much as fast as Ness or it feels like he’s as fast as Ness lol.

[@trentbell8276]

@@Sightless-vz2wh Bowser isn't as fast as Ness, he's faster.

[@Sightless-vz2wh]

@@trentbell8276 True I agree but for a heavy he’s really fast. I guess because I like playing Ness and Bowser so I just think for a heavy Bowser is pretty fast. I’ve been working on Ken lately I just like fast characters. Bowser is my favorite heavy for sure.

[@trentbell8276]

But? I'm saying that Bowser is faster than Ness, just so there's no confusion. Yeah, he's fast for a heavy.

[@mystic5175]

One top of all that, he's a king with a sick win song

[@x.a.n.a.9397]

3:20 thanks I been struggling for years I even looked at the instructions and was t even mentioned

[@Garland846]

Bowser is a really solid character, people need to stop writing him off as a cheap gimmick character

[@SuperAndrew64]

At 12:07 the reason the other bowser didn't go far was because of he got hit by the strong spike hitbox and then the weak hitbox immediately after

[@Kai-pu9cb]

12:08 it's the spike hit box, the worst thing to happen to down b

[@kyx5631]

Larry's face at 12:10 is absolute gold. Granted, my reaction was the same.

[@gamesandluigifan7152]

12:05 I think the landing hitbox hit him after which weakened the knockback. Or it was the spike hitbox

[@tobikurashiki5800]

Bowser just walking out of a Magic Burst is a frightening thing to watch.

[@A_Slice_Of_Weeg]

Down air isn't completely invulnerable, (my amiibo found this out the hard way) but it might as well be. Plus, it also causes a short distance impact shock. Not that powerful but can be useful for stopping smash attack punishes.

[@lepyrolink182]

13:32 So even the Gods can become victims of Mario's combos. This makes me feel a little better.

[@indigoiozzi]

10:23 nah, Marcina's Fair doesn't hit neither as low or as high as Bowser's

[@crowsy-chan4901]

11:22 Dude Jimmy Tried To Do The Poppt1 HandShake Or Is It just me ☕

[@tee4214]

Bruv...ive been hit from behind bowsers fair....and his fsmash. His hitboxes can be kinda jank.

[@ComboFood]

Just checking with other Bowser mains, do you often find yourself mashing for your up b then instantly buffer getup attack

[@taffydjsr]

More quality content from King Larry

[@cgnfake6721]

12:08 my best guess is the game thought you spiked him, because down b spikes and you were near the edge.

[@JaboodyEnthusiast]

Bowser running at you is a mind game in and of itself. If you have rumble on you might as well shake their hand fam.

[@sSynclare]

if u DON'T think bowser is the best heavy ur the one that's crazy. his movement speed alone is fucking stupid good LMAO

[@MrDcow]

Anxiously awaiting a meta knight vid

[@odstagent1070]

Fox: 0:23 MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA! Bowser: Useless! Useless!

[@hhhhhh-vi6sq]

boswer pog

[@deadriccow]

Honestly should do ice climbers sometime, I wanna see labbing Larry!

[@vepcat4803]

Bowsers down b has a large spike hit box meaning against really big characters it will hit that hitbox despite being on the ground

[@greedo194]

Not to mention forward tilt is insane on the ledge and jab is pretty hard to punish

[@scouthenry]

ah yes, my favorite heavy, Boswer.

[@arosonomy]

TIL you can mash Bowser's Up-B lmao

[@HeedyMooding]

I like your video but i can't with this one, there is so much misinformation : - no bowser breath doesn't deal 40% unless you do nothing, DI alone is enough to only take 25-30% (with SDI you can go down to 15-20%) and yeah if you get hit by this this close, you deserve those 30%. - no bowser's smash doesn't have super armor but heavy armor (8% for Dsmash and Usmash, 10% for Fsmash), wich is really different and much weaker. - he doesn't have any move safe on shield, jab is -9 and fair -10. - his recovery is good in term of distance but that's all, otherwise it sucks, the move itself is very linear and predictible, you don't even need a disjoint to hit it. - yes his side B is strong af but it has a strange blindspot if your opponent is too close. Also almost all character on most stage (not BF) won't die from a suicide sideB since they can juste jump and upB to survive.

[@evansmith2832]

best neutral out of any true heavyweight in the history of the series

[@scaryfingers101]

I am just now noticing that Larry has a dimple.

[@punmaster227]

Piranha Plant: “Hold my pot”

[@victorvalverde792]

Rip, "Explaing Why Boswer..."

[@keksidy]

We don't really need an explanation tbh, he just is

[@lysparks5319]

I can’t tell if the title was an accident or on purpose lol

[@gamesandluigifan7152]

Sode effect from playing Bowser Source: Am Bowser Main

[@lysparks5319]

@@gamesandluigifan7152 A side effect of playing Luigi is being an aerial masher

[@lysparks5319]

@@DD-uk9fs yah so definitely just a typo lol

[@SGalaxyify]

I only play browser sometomes

[@Z0R0zeenee]

i actually learned a lot, i didnt know bowser had super armor on smash attacks and that both players control side b

[@Chris-dy1cb]

Title is goated

[@manaz2781]

Yup I'm convinced.

[@Joe42351]

Is this the beginning of The Bowser Biography?

[@orbitalape]

Also want to point out. The entire shell of up smash is invincible while he is attacking. You can not lose a trade with that move

[@deadbrain6801]

In other games it was hard to say. In ultimate bowser is easily the best. His punish game is good . Dk is more fun to play though

[@juhadexcelsior]

a lot more fun

[@lxchristhebuff1303]

Bowser's tough guy is what ness mains fear

[@SamiJ1508]

Is there an infographic for which moves lose to tough guy? Im link. it would be nice to know which moves I can use at close range? Do any other characters have tough guy

[@squidinc4376]

Most of what makes Bowser good are traits all super heavies should have, but don't. Convince me I'm wrong.

[@PrettyKoolCrocodile]

Agreed

[@x9x799]

Facts, I wish launch k rool didn’t get nerfed as hard as he did he may have ended up being fairly good

[@PrettyKoolCrocodile]

@@x9x799 Man

[@squidinc4376]

@@x9x799 Yea tbh I think K Rool is fairly well designed with and would be an absolute menace with a few tweaks. But the devs don't like him evidently.

[@squidinc4376]

A super heavy should be slow, die late, be good at trading, and have a decent amount of hyper-armor skills. But apparently they also have to be juggle food, get trapped in their shields, be polarized to about 2 neutral options, have nearly no confirms, and boast the most easily-gimped recoveries in game. I love heavies in fighters, and there's not a super-heavy in this game I don't have a blast playing.. But when I started getting serious about the game I dropped em all. Bowsers the only super-heavy thats somewhat well-rounded and its extremely obvious beyond the casual or wifi level.

[@TrenTehGreat]

here for the self-slap at 13:03

[@Andreecals]

he can run out, yeah, but he could just attack hero mid magic burst, much better xD

[@TTG_JG]

Peach definitely got Bowser on speed dial.

[@Creepo_J]

10:14 That interaction

[@oddlyenoughproductions1674]

Yoooo @10:31 my Twitch sub with the cameooooo

[@iframes292]

12:10 I think the reason why he never went far is because you got the spike hitbox on down b. At least that’s what I think

[@chasehoke4768]

Mmm delicious combo food. -falcon main