Hello friends! After you get over laughing at KZbin for their ironically embarrassing themselves with this "Trevor Project" blue box context warning label about the dangers of conversion therapy... I recommend you check out the full conversation with Andrew here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4O4iWN5ecd4mKs If you want to stay up to date with Dad Saves America, please subscribe here on KZbin or over on Substack, where you can find weekly articles and the audio version of the podcast, with more to come in the near future! www.dadsavesamerica.com
@JoshuaRed-v4f2 ай бұрын
@@DadSavesAmerica Ah yes conversion therapy. The practice that resulted in generations of trauma and set the conditions for the suicide epidemic
@angiesmith59952 ай бұрын
It was a very nice reminder to go and make another donation to The Trevor Project. Thanks.
@georgevavoulis47582 ай бұрын
It sure F'n he'll goes against MASCULINE GAY MEN especially against BEARS and LEATHER MEN . I challenge you to gobto any gay hood and you'll NEVER see BEAR PRIDE ,LEATHER PRIDE flag anywhere
@sonicsnake442 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRed-v4f Can't the same be said about trans conversion therapy.
@koalanectar9382Ай бұрын
I'm sorry but I only know that conversion therapy is bad when youtube tells me.
@macchiatomachiato2 ай бұрын
as a gay man i see more and more gay and lesbian people recognising this ……. they no longer represent us👏
@adamgoodword7888Ай бұрын
Yeh, it's everywhere on the internet now. There are thousands of comments from people in the LGBT community that want absolutely nothing with all this fringe, far left woke nonsense. who want nothing to do with the Pride movement.
@doe729Ай бұрын
They never did.
@Imwatchingyou2023Ай бұрын
Yep! My fiancé and I talk about this often. They don’t represent us lesbians or gays
@ralexandra1058Ай бұрын
Yup. The LBG needs to divorce the TQ. The extremist TQ are harming the entire community
@Gritt982Ай бұрын
Exactly this. Agreed 💯.
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan88942 ай бұрын
FEELINGS OF FEMININITY IN MALES IS DIFFERENT TO BEING FEMALE
@OHJojo-2 ай бұрын
Us gay people already know this, knew this and proved this.
@michelledavis26042 ай бұрын
How do you know you know how other people feel?
@michelledavis26042 ай бұрын
@@OHJojo-how did you prove it?
@peterjermey72352 ай бұрын
That's why trans and gay people are not the same and nobody is claiming they are
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan88942 ай бұрын
@@michelledavis2604 because male and female is biological parts not feeling
@k-doggy17622 ай бұрын
As a gay man I agree with everything said. Often discuss with my boyfriend how pride has been hijacked by nutjobs who have nothing to do with homosexuality. Subscribed.
@silverhawkscape26772 ай бұрын
It was called the lgbt community since the 1970s. You've been "allies" for 50 years now.
@andrewfoster43592 ай бұрын
@@silverhawkscape2677 true but its the nut jobs from the last 10years or so who've hijacked pride.
@VauxhallViva-s8x2 ай бұрын
@silverhawkscape2677 Those of us who were out in the 80 and 90s see through these lies. The T was only added in recent memory. And it’s proving to be a disaster for gay people.
@Catherine.Dorian.2 ай бұрын
Yeah cause by todays standards you’re not gay, you’re a straight woman trapped in a man’s body
@jamessorrel2 ай бұрын
I'm a gay man too and I feel like trans is just a Trojan horse to get rid of the gay at times. IDK how the pride movement got c-opted but we need to turn this bus around lol
@Justintime6192 ай бұрын
As a gay man, THANK YOU!🙏 the “trans” movement has done so much damage to the real lgb equality…
@juliangodsend94182 ай бұрын
As a “Gay” man you too need to repent,this is all disgusting,this is ANTI-CHRIST
@patmanchester80452 ай бұрын
I am not Gay, but I sympathize with their cause. Having been a woman in basically male jobs ( in the 70's) I can only guess ...So I have been telling people about this too. One thing that worries me is non trans, non Gay, people are getting on the band wagon and have become anti women ( anti feminists ) and anti Gay, as well. If I were a lesbian there is no way I would want to give a blow job, I do not care how much like a woman the person is. Also, another thing trans people want to negate, is that you may be trans gender, but you are still a person of you biological sex, and that is also something a gay person is not interested in. but YOU know that.
@JoshuaRed-v4f2 ай бұрын
@@Justintime619 Lgbtq rights isn't a fight against each other. Keep trying to throw minorities under the bus because you're a needy, whiny, bigot who want all the attention.
@DadSavesAmerica2 ай бұрын
Justin, I appreciate that, and your willingness to watch me work through my own concerns in dialogue.
@michelledavis26042 ай бұрын
@@Justintime619 get over yourself
@JG-qt3pn2 ай бұрын
Decades of effort and gain by the LGB community, lost by the T.
@gwenechotaylor962 ай бұрын
Yup.
@theresas7402 ай бұрын
@JG-qt3pn "lost" has such an "oops!" feeling to it. I rather think the T has pissed away our decades of effort and gain.
@notyourordinarygranАй бұрын
We can't blame actual transexuals, but the 'gender iseology' bandwagon. No one invited them under the 'umbrella'.
@adamgoodword7888Ай бұрын
Exactly. The Pride Movement is setting the rights of LGBTQ Community back by decades. This far left, fringe, woke, freak show known as Pride Movement is encompassing all the normal people in the LGBTQ community creating this false perception that they too are all weird. LGBT have fought for "respect" and recognition as regular people in the community. Pride is robbing them of this respect. Now everyone thinks that all LGBT people are Pride freaks.
@ShooberTimberАй бұрын
@@theresas740 true, "destroyed" is the correct term to be used here instead of lost.
@Ctrooper20112 ай бұрын
That box "clarifying" conversion therapy from the trevor project just shows how the algorithm is threatened by the video's truth.
@DadSavesAmerica2 ай бұрын
At what point will Google realize that these blue boxes hurt their brand and make the platform look like it’s run by lunatics.
@ellisdunegan2 ай бұрын
@@DadSavesAmericait's taking too long.
@ronalzky2 ай бұрын
I completely agree. I recommend clicking the option to send feedback to KZbin explaining your opposition to the Trevor Project banner.
@ReverendDr.Thomas2 ай бұрын
@@DadSavesAmerica Do you use any of the following (somewhat euphemistic) terms? • gay • homophobia/homophobe • transphobia/transphobe • trans-sexual • transgender • Intersex • cis gender • sex worker • African-American • capitalism/capitalist • any gender-specific pronoun other than he/she, him/her or his/her Then CONGRATULATIONS - you are (either knowingly or unwittingly) a silly shill for the loony left!
@dcollins46792 ай бұрын
@@DadSavesAmericaLook like? 🙂
@gildastarr2932Ай бұрын
Soon as they started chanting *we're coming for your children* I abandoned "pride"
@gamezswingerАй бұрын
Catholicism🔱 says "We're coming for your children" through the process of indoctrination. Catholicism seeks to shape the beliefs of the younger generation through indoctrination. However, many Catholics bravely choose to renounce or abandon their faith and religious affiliation-and with good reason.
@jislaaikrockadopolis7215Ай бұрын
Just be clear about who "they" are. "THEY" are just a bunch of loudmouth, rainbow-hair idiots who spend most of their time making up ridiculous rules on social media and expecting everyone to follow them. Just ignore them and they'll eventually go away.
@pettykittyfamАй бұрын
👏 👏 👏 Dang straight (pardon the pun 😂)
@benjaminwyatt37782 ай бұрын
Dave Chapelle was right, except now the T’s aren’t just asking to pull the progress car over…they’re slashing the tires and trying to kick the driver out the door
@theresas7402 ай бұрын
I said this 30 years ago when ftm's (that was the language, grow up) wouldn't leave our lesbian-only group, it's one thing to make waves together, it's another to board someone else's boat and try to steer.
@michelledavis26042 ай бұрын
Especially Dylan mulvaney. She's so aggressive.
@morrishansford33162 ай бұрын
Amen
@DarkAngel25122 ай бұрын
@@theresas740the language in UK up until 2017 was "transsexual man".
@nacho-mammy2 ай бұрын
@@michelledavis2604she? Lol where?
@ronaldkable2 ай бұрын
I've never been into the alphabet soup. I'm a gay man
@Attmay2 ай бұрын
Too many carbs.
@akirahimurakinakiyama992 ай бұрын
Same I’m also a gay man and I’m also an actual autistic man on top of that
@Drool4Drama2 ай бұрын
Agree! I no longer want anything to do with the lgbtqia+blaha. It's just too toxic. I'm just a lesbian, standing proudly outside of the lgbtq-whacko umbrella.
@lordfarquaad78962 ай бұрын
@@akirahimurakinakiyama99are you also a top? Rare these days, I’m asking for a friend… let me know
@liaml.e.59642 ай бұрын
Same here
@joshspeed77942 ай бұрын
As a gay married man, both my husband and I are conservative having left the crazy left. We 100% agree with this podcast's perspective. We don't want to be associated with this far left insane hijacking of the gay, lesbian, bisexual community. I think a growing percent of gay men want to be left alone, true libertarians, who support the nuclear family, pro freedom, etc, but we are not the most visible nor useful to a corrupt media who seek to divide and conquer by leaning into the crazy loudest minority of gays for clicks and views.
@darkzeroprojects42452 ай бұрын
And other political goals.
@Bkn1BttmDo11aАй бұрын
GAYS FOR TRUMP🫶🏳️🌈🇺🇸🩷
@josephgeorgeejr7039Ай бұрын
God bless you "sir"!!
@adynathaly3145Ай бұрын
While most trans are in support the nuclear family structure.
@ted1091Ай бұрын
I'm as far left as you can be, but I agree with this video. I'm 68 and was on the front lines of the Gay Rights Movement since 1974.
@laurentt.34032 ай бұрын
Also I am homosexual and I confirm I feel that shift in mind about 5 to 10 years now. I begin to see some strange pseudo religious stuff around pride also.
@WinstonSmithGPT2 ай бұрын
@@laurentt.3403 Male and female “souls?” WTF???
@winxclubstellamusa2 ай бұрын
Yes!! The TQ+ is absolutely an ideology, which makes it a religion!
@kelseycoleman8068Ай бұрын
I kinda noticed that to. From what I’ve seen they really sound like they want to be the default. Erase the biological woman and replace them and then weirdly trick the straight men who don’t want anything to do with trans stuff into thinking they’re women. I find it extremely weird that some of them specifically go for straight people and have even admitted it. There are videos of people actually lying to these men after sex and the men are distraught. They didn’t say they were trans until afterwards and some of them enjoy seeing them breakdown. Its twisted and evil.
@adamgoodword7888Ай бұрын
Great point! There truly is some form of religious movement that has risen up out of the Pride movement. We're seeing a perversion of churches/religions/pastors. Pride is no longer about rights and being proud of who you are but an agenda hell bent on corrupting everything and anything, including the mindsets of school children.
@saoliath5000Ай бұрын
yup. Trans ideology in particular is often no different or coercive than some person preaching their religion. Calling someone transphobic is realistically no different than calling someone a sinner.
@sirguy66782 ай бұрын
Douglas Murray (jokingly) warned about the end of Gay men with the trans conversion. I believe huge lawsuits against butcher doctors and aggressive psychologist will bring some resolve to this issue
@JoshuaRed-v4f2 ай бұрын
@@sirguy6678 I'm not sure if it was a joke. Homophobes genuinely believe trans women are failed gay men. Bigots aren't smart
@js47402 ай бұрын
In normal times perhaps, but these arent normal times and the judiciary isnt behaving normally.
@WallydarlingEDIT2 ай бұрын
Let’s really hope so but I’m not holding my breath . As a society we used to go crazy at anyone hurting children but these days it’s being encouraged and legalised by governments. The damage this new LGBTQ movement has done will not come to light for years even though support for this group is declining massively due to these extreme leftists 💔 it’s heartbreaking to watch .
@gwenechotaylor962 ай бұрын
@@WallydarlingEDIT Agree 100%. We needed the gay community to help us stop the trans madness and they didn't and they still embrace the endless letters at the end of the LGB. So, no, I'm not on board anymore. Rainbow mafia and Trans taliban is how many people now see this. It will not end well. For anyone - and how many children's lives destroyed?
@Official_RetroManiaАй бұрын
"Jokingly" but how the old saying goes: "There's a grain of truth in every joke".
@GeradMunsch2 ай бұрын
I'd say "transing the gay away" is on the same level as performing an exorcism to "pray the gay away"...
@howtubeableАй бұрын
Yes and no. Medical procedures against boys suspected of being gay is much worse than just praying.
@ted1091Ай бұрын
Very well said "transing the Gay away."
@AttmayАй бұрын
@@GeradMunsch both should be criminalized for the same reasons.
@aprilbennett4161Ай бұрын
@@howtubeable Exorcism =/= praying. Exorcisms are dangerous and can be fatal. Salt poisoning, near-overdoses, drowning, and physical abuse are associated with exorcisms.
@MrNotoriousROBАй бұрын
Parts of Africa and the Middle East practice this; it is better to be Trans than Gay and they offer Gender Affirming Care.
@littlebilly87472 ай бұрын
Gender Affirming Care should be focused on affirming your biological gender
@JoshuaRed-v4f2 ай бұрын
Biological gender is an oxymoron
@RnD-u9n2 ай бұрын
Biological sex.
@DrCruel2 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRed-v4f Biological gender is a redundancy, albeit a necessary one today.
@VestaseNewton2 ай бұрын
How about no "Gender Affirming" type of care? Not that actual transexuals shouldn't get help, but more so this "affirmation" type of practice should be removed as it is important to actually question and be critical on this as it is important to mental/physical health. Not just press the person with affirmation after affirmation. Transexuals (primarily adults) have actually been receiving care for decades, look at Buck Angel. He's currently 62 and transitioned I believe around 30 years into his life, after being a classic masculine lesbian and nearly dying to (correct if wrong) alcoholism. Where once he transitioned he felt significantly better and happier. A clear example of gender dysphoria. Currently does videos here on youtube which I question may be shadow banned as he has good interviews with your average person....even if he doesn't agree with them, he treats them with respect and dignity. If the person isn't dealing with a severe gender dysphoric condition, why are they transitioning??? To detransition anywhere between months to several years later? This isn't a choice, you are either born that way and go through puberty so it goes away or it doesn't and you eventually figure it out OR NOT...sorry for the comparison, but just like gays and lesbians you either are born that way where the issue persists beyond puberty or you aren't and are an average straight person. Not using cis, it is unneeded terminology.
@michelledavis26042 ай бұрын
Go back to achool
@rogermoller78952 ай бұрын
I totally agree Pride does not Do anything Good för the LGB people
@kirkmarusak78002 ай бұрын
Pride in accepting oneself after politicians and religious people ridicule LGBT people is better than hating oneself and feeling ashamed. One minister in Tennessee precided over the funerals of dozens of gay and lesbian teenagers in his church congregation as a result of his sermons condemning homosexuality. Is that the better alternative? Just ask the families of those deceased teenagers what they think.
@jaymeswarde71512 ай бұрын
Oh it does but it's not good. It tells us we are wrong and should be straight. They wave the new flag and chant free Palestine. What happens to us in Palestine? That's what they do for us they have on us and expect us to be thankful
@sparagmos47482 ай бұрын
@@kirkmarusak7800 The comment is referring to Pride as a Parade and Spectacle. We can be comfortable being LGB without feeling shame or self hatred. Pride now is not doing anything to reduce homophobia, and sometimes is actually harming same sex attracted people who simply want equal rights.
@Attmay2 ай бұрын
Use of that acronym to force the T on LGB? Check. Using southern whites from the US as a representative example of the opposition? Check. Emotional manipulation weaponizing suicide? Check. We've got a groomer here folks!
@kirkmarusak78002 ай бұрын
@sparagmos4748 I believe Pride parades have lost their original commitment to working towards a society that treats LGBT people as human being with equal rights. The parades have become too commercialized. But do not forget that the same people condemning homosexuality and trangender people want to deny them rights that they enjoy themselves. They do not care what happens to young people who identify as LGBT. These anti-LGBT people will never stop finding something about the LGBT community to condemn even if pride parades end. They are willing to ban all books about race and LGBT characters in books in public libraries. That does negatively impact the lives of LGBT teenagers. Look at the list of states like Texas that have banned hundreds of books because these anti-gay persons feel being gay or transgender is immoral and a threat to their view of how society should be. Teachers cannot turn a student to become gay or transgender through reading a book. But until recently, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis claimed teachers were sexualizing students. How ridiculous!
@jadengrace_2 ай бұрын
I think that lesbian trans women, rarely dating other trans women is telling that genital preference is only used against people who don’t want to date them. Because they understand what being a lesbian is when it comes to them wanting to be to date females, but not the other way around .
@oliviamaynard93722 ай бұрын
98% of lesbian trans women date other trans women
@Canthavemybones2 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!! It’s crazy how that’s never truly called out.
@wflyin85742 ай бұрын
They’re straight men. Don’t call them lesbians. That word is taken.
@doe729Ай бұрын
Bingo
@indianamarshal3457Ай бұрын
Exactly.....
@nycrae2 ай бұрын
It wasn't always like this. It has become an embarrassment and a slap in the face to all the folks that worked hard
@oliviamaynard93722 ай бұрын
Sure bro
@JoshuaRed-v4f2 ай бұрын
@@nycrae snowflake energy
@sparagmos47482 ай бұрын
The hard work has been torn down and the lunatics now run the asylum.😢
@sparagmos47482 ай бұрын
@@oliviamaynard9372You dispute this?
@JoshuaRed-v4f2 ай бұрын
@@sparagmos4748 Republicans aren't in office anymore. The nation is the most stable it's* been in years
@mythril4Ай бұрын
I am a gay male, I've abandon the rainbow flag(s), there is nothing there that describes me. I have no problem with a male who wants to act feminine or a girl who wants to act masculine. The key word here is "act", not surgically modify and socially destruct. However, like my gay being, it is self canceling along with trans. The world does not continue with modification or same sex in the end.
@OSMARI2 ай бұрын
This was a really refreshing dialogue for I’m gay and from Afghanistan originally, and am currently going through a workplace discrimination lawsuit. Things are getting worse for gay people because the stereotypes are amplified enormously due to the extreme trans movement
@penguinpewpew_2 ай бұрын
Are you being discriminated against or are they saying you're discriminating?
@OSMARIАй бұрын
@@penguinpewpew_ actually my lawsuit is on our website AND has been made public. I was wrongfully terminated. Documenting everything including depositions for when we go to trial which will be scheduled soon. The verdict of the case will determine the results; however, I’ve had multiple attorneys review my case and have acquired representation.
@visceratrocarАй бұрын
Being trans isn't the same as being an extremist. Real trans people are a minority, but those that are don't choose to be trans.
@liberoAquila2 ай бұрын
I am gay, and by all means do not find straight sex icky. I think women can be very attractive I just don't particularly want to have sex or relationship with one.
@DrCruel2 ай бұрын
This has nothing to do with the issue, which is how to exploit sexual kink to sell socialism.
@salvolondon2 ай бұрын
Same here
@Da90sbaby2 ай бұрын
And I don't want to sleep with men, who asked 😂😂
@passion_proh-jects2 ай бұрын
Girl!
@jonathanmercado84682 ай бұрын
Sounds like if a special one comes by you'll switch sides
@MiraSmit2 ай бұрын
Gender and sex should never have been seperate.
@TheOmnitom2 ай бұрын
They're not lmao it's a delusion
@heykay56102 ай бұрын
Yeah, until about 2016 they meant the same thing, and it was just nicer and easier to say "gender" in conversation when you meant "sex". It's all a mess now.
@TheOmnitom2 ай бұрын
@@heykay5610 weak people took over an idiots got ahead binging welfare
@noonesishome2 ай бұрын
Thank feminism for separating sex and gender.
@TheOmnitom2 ай бұрын
@@noonesishome its why men don't historically listen to them lmao 😂😂😂
@dragonborn0420Ай бұрын
The "TQIA2S+++" should just be removed from the original LGB.
@TheAlphaLegionnaire2 ай бұрын
We all discriminate. We choose the people we’re attracted to, and why shouldn’t we? Feelings? Do my feelings matter? Or just yours…
@dtony19642 ай бұрын
I noticed that around the time that non-binary identification appeared (2017) the inability to call out crazy became a thing as well. Terms such as ableist started getting tossed around to anyone who didn't agree with nutty behavior.
@bingo7372 ай бұрын
As a gay person, I APPROVE THIS!
@adynathaly3145Ай бұрын
Because u biased
@leeh5307Ай бұрын
As a lesbian, married for 5 years, my wife and I do not associate with the trans movement. Before anyone screams 'hate' at me- i volunteer my time as a mentor with trans youth , autism and mentally unhealthy people, so i have a deep love for anyone who doesn't feel like they fit into mainstream society. But trans rights/ trans movement imo has nothing to do with homosexual rights. Thank you for this interview.
@Baileybird0012 ай бұрын
I feel like nowadays it’s also super misogynistic. You can’t be a masculine woman without being labeled as non-binary or gender fluid, or expected to have different pronouns. I also feel like 'feminine men' and even men who aren't particularly feminine are now transitioning to trans women without much effort and still calling themselves women.
@WinstonSmithGPT2 ай бұрын
@@Baileybird001 Tomboys are real!!! And great!
@Marcusmarcb0tI2 ай бұрын
I'm a transwoman, but all my trans friends acknowledge the existence of tomboys and femboys. Femboys don't have to be gay or gender fluid. They can be straight cis males who present very feminine. It's just a conspiracy theory to claim that everyone is trying to force them to be trans or non-binary categories. You're projecting what the conservative right is trying to do by literally trying to erase trans and other non cishet identities. Every single last queer person I have met simply let's people identify as that individual sees fit for themselves.
@BoomBoomBoomUwU2 ай бұрын
I hope on that case you mean too that if female get a transition and call herself a men is a misandry?
@slacktoryrecords4193Ай бұрын
@@BoomBoomBoomUwUno, because women who “transition” tend to do so because of internalized misogyny, or external misogyny, sexism etc. They dont see themselves as particularly feminine, they don’t want to take part in what’s increasingly become a pornified version of femaleness as portrayed in the media, advertising, social media, the internet, X rated stuff, etc. It’s all about trying to escape womanhood, wherein womanhood is seen as this icky, lame, “weaker sex” thing. Of course, they can’t really escape it, though there are examples of some who “pass” well.
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
Who says you can't be a masculine woman and just be that? Seriously, only the person themselves can dictate who they are and what pronouns to use. So if a masc woman says she's a woman and uses she/her pronouns, no one has the right to force her otherwise. You're using the same fear tactics heterosexuals use against trans people without realizing that the moment trans people are "exterminated", the rest of us are next.
@wastelandlegocheemАй бұрын
South park really hit the nail 10 years ago 💀
@p.m.8666Ай бұрын
I am gay and tired of the alphabet soup and left woke ideology. Regards from Spain ❤
@philipferguson85702 ай бұрын
Andrew Doyle is, as usual, pretty darn good.
@sparagmos47482 ай бұрын
A compelling speaker who knows his stuff.
@RonDoncombe2 ай бұрын
as a straight guy how am i suppose to understand what a translesbian is i saw a girl cosplay as a succubus whos aromatic asexual like what how did we get here?
@girlwriteswhatАй бұрын
Tavistock took the same tack as Iran. A lot of people might not realize, but sex change surgeries are extremely common in Iran, and have been for some time. Homosexuality is not tolerated, but if one partner gets a sex change, the couple can get married.
@fuzzykyrra2 ай бұрын
As a gay man I have steered clear of Pride events as I am uncomfortable with the over-emphasis on sex, fetishism and nudity- and thus do not feel represented by the movement. This is not to say I feel people who support these events should not be allowed to do so- but I just feel somewhat irritated that me being the G in LGBTQIA+ means that in wider society I am automatically lumped in with the other letters who march in the parade in a G-string and dog collar for example.
@darkzeroprojects42452 ай бұрын
I'm convinced it's run by political subversives who unironically follow cqt or whatever and other scumbags like opportunists
@Bkn1BttmDo11aАй бұрын
IM GAY AND VOTING FOR TRUMP 2024 🏳️🌈🇺🇸🫶💕✌️🇺🇸🩵 HE WILL PROTECT CHILDREN IN PRIDE PARADES AND BAN HORMONE BLOCKERS FOR MINORS, IF YOU SUPPORT THIS VOTE HIM! HE LOVES GAY PEOPLE WE NEED TO SPREAD THE TRUTH🇺🇸🏳️🌈🫶🩷TRUMP 2024! 🇺🇸🫶
@adynathaly3145Ай бұрын
Good stay away trans are also voting for trump
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
You getting lumped in together with the hypersexual side of the community is not the fault of the LGBTQ+ community, it's the fault of conservatives who try to paint all LGBTQ+ people with the same brush, and who try to make LGBTQ+ people seem as strange and un-Christian as possible. There's way more hyper-sexualized straight, non-trans people out there- you can't watch a bloody television show nowadays without a straight sex or *rape* scene in it! But they still have the gall to call LGBTQ+ people overly sexual.
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
@@Bkn1BttmDo11a He said he was going to consider removing gay marriage, and his project 2025 includes removing it. Anyone who legitimately thinks he's a friend of LGBTQ+ people is either being lied to, or a bot.
@Eragarev2 ай бұрын
If you're not allowed to openly reject someone on the basis of their true sexual dimorphism, you do not have rights. The notion that we must all live our lives around some person, or group of people's, fragile gendered egos and ignore their bodies at the expense of our own sexual boundaries is not equality.
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
No one truly believes anyone should be forced to have sex with someone for ANY reason. That would be sexual coercion. Adult trans people recognize this. It's not an excuse to discriminate against trans people.
@sparkreno19Ай бұрын
OK, but it’s extremely naïve to suggest that a trans woman tell a lesbian that because she’s a “woman” , the lesbian should consider “her” an option. But if the lesbian goes “no, you’re not a woman” (basically saying you don’t have the parts i like), the lesbian is now a terf transphobe
@JohnDoe-og2btАй бұрын
@@rwild9356How do you define someone not sleeping with a trans because they dont agree with how they identify?
@HerWanderlustАй бұрын
No one is discriminating against them, we are simply refusing to participate in their delusions, and refuse to give up our women’s spaces to men. It’s really that simple.
@JohnDoe-og2btАй бұрын
@@rwild9356 No anwer? Hmm more gaslighting from them/their supporters I see.
@ehdrootofbeard44112 ай бұрын
I'll give the Asexuals props where due though... Not wanting sex is a BRILLIANT way to avoid drama 🤣👀
@BenStowellАй бұрын
Haha! I wish! But then you deal with the drama of people thinking there's something wrong with you! 😂😭
@Capt-IntrepidАй бұрын
Trans and Gender have NOTHING to do with Sexual Orientation.
@makaAlbaanАй бұрын
Thanks. This talk is delusional framing trans people as gay people which are forced to become the opposite sex. There are trans people attracted to either or neither gender. Only because you want to be the opposite sex doesn't mean you are gay
@negativeanthony2 ай бұрын
12:10 I'm glad Andrew identified Grindr as a hookup app because that's what it is. It isn't a dating app as identified by app stores. Then again, if the stores were to consider Grindr a hookup app, they'd probably ban it.
@kimberlyf4888Ай бұрын
I heard a theory recently that since the gay rights movement had largely succeeded, there was less money to be made by those working to support those rights - hence the move to trans rights by activist groups. Plus, there's more money to be made on the medical side with trans rights - providers get life long patients of drugs and surgeries.
@breezyveezy1Ай бұрын
This is absolutely right. There’s a bureaucracy to support so they had to move on to this extreme. Basically grifting.
@nadiraslam5982Ай бұрын
This is actually what it comes down to.
@BoomBoomBoomUwU2 ай бұрын
I agree as gay man. It's really annyoing to see female body parts on dating sides intended to gay men.
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
Suit yourself, some gay men are okay with or even like them. Some gay men aren't interested in your body either, but you should still be able to use the app.
@cdiz765Ай бұрын
i block them all
@netjernefer3160Ай бұрын
@@rwild9356 If a "gay" man likes female body parts, he's not gay, boo.
@am143-g1mАй бұрын
@@rwild9356 a gay man attracted to a trans woman body is not a gay man sorry!
@Scar-jg4bnАй бұрын
@@rwild9356 gay men do not want women's body parts at all.
@berrycarbs2 ай бұрын
Being a Catholic gay man myself (and celibate as required to be in a state of grace) this video was a nice watch… Finally someone is showing the insanity in a very sober and truthful manner. Bless you for that!
@jg30002 ай бұрын
You should think of becoming a pagan.
@penguinpewpew_2 ай бұрын
I have a question, you're celibate about sex or about relationships as well?
@doe729Ай бұрын
I respect that.
@slacktoryrecords4193Ай бұрын
Oh my. Cast off the shackles, man, and get out there and f*ck!
@YourLocalDududeАй бұрын
I’m a bi man and libertarian, but I’m not really into the alphabet mafia. I just want to live freely without pushing anything towards anyone while I expect everyone else to not push crap onto me. Of course, if someone identifies as trans, I’ll respect them and not push my beliefs on them, but they should return that respect to me as well. Children also shouldn’t be subjected to medical transitions, because that’s just another form of homophobia, is that if a child feels like that they are gender nonconforming, they shouldn’t be pressured to transition. Once they are an adult, they have the right to medically transition. I have the same beliefs about religion, is that religion shouldn’t be forced on people, especially other people’s children.
@k.h.walker23782 ай бұрын
It's called transing away the gay.
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
There's no such thing as "Transing". That's a word made up by homophobic and transphobic people to signal how much they don't know about trans people.
@FirstLast-ii5cpАй бұрын
What does that even mean?
@Scar-jg4bnАй бұрын
@@FirstLast-ii5cp Internalized homophobia and heteronormative society pressuring homosexuals to "transition" in order to fit into the mold of heterosexual society.
@DiscoMatty79Ай бұрын
@FirstLast-ii5cp it's gay conversion therapy 2.0
@michaeljohndennis22312 ай бұрын
Actually, as an older gay man myself, I actually agree with this from the time I was a teenager in the 1980’s where I’d met a lot of older gay men of my grandparents generation at that time and they were saying much the same things - they were totally against “free and open” gay venues that did not have secret knocks and secret passwords on doors, in nondescript areas, they were totally opposed to the concept of gay pride, everyone being fully out and open about being gay, they were also totally opposed to the decriminalisation of homosexuality - they believed at the time that the gay community was being infiltrated and compromised, hijacked and corrupted from within, done to push certain agendas, including leftism and communism
@patriciarocco26102 ай бұрын
Interesting.
@sparagmos47482 ай бұрын
I heard that they were opposed to legalisation because they liked the secrecy and risk taking. It was part of the fun😮😅 Source: 60 yo gay man 40 years ago.
@fettbub922 ай бұрын
@@sparagmos4748people felt that way about marijuana being legalized too.
@sparagmos47482 ай бұрын
@@fettbub92 I can totally understand that!😆
@petera6182 ай бұрын
As an older gay man, I can understand their view points. We were actually doing much better in the 90s and as LGB. Things were going in the right direction and there was much more acceptance until this current alphabet mafia highjacked it all with all their lunacy. "Pride" has become a joke, pure raunch in public.They insist you support everything they support or you will be chastised. When I now see a rainbow flag I now cringe because of all the hidden agendas that are now behind it. I will not support Communism, I will not support men pretending to be women taking away biological women's spaces away from them, I will not support the corruption and brain washing of young children and I don't support BLM which is nothing but a corrupt Marxist organization that squanders people's donation money for ther own benefit, riots and burns down innocent people's properties in the name of "justice" and does nothing to really helping the Black community in need. This current "community" have drifted down the wrong path and are now a group of privileged narcissists who are an insult to the true pioneers from the past that really fought for equal rights and acceptance. I'm happy to have no part of them.
@CensorshipVictimАй бұрын
My cousin is a lesbian who runs a support group for lesbian SA survivors. She originally hosted it at a community center, but had to stop because these men showed up (who claimed to identify as women), they never participated but wanted to listen the woman talk about their SA. One guy, my cousin kicked out because he got upset because one woman wouldn't go into enough details about her SA, and he kept pressing for very intimate details of her SA. My cousin got so many complaints from the women that she moved the group to her house, because the community center refused to keep these guys out, claiming that as a long as they identified as women they were allowed to attend.
@jennmcdavitt37822 ай бұрын
Look up transhumanism and Charles schwab. You will understand it all.
@JoshuaRed-v4f2 ай бұрын
Great conspiracy brain logic. Transhumaism existed therefore evil trans conspiracy
@MultiLlewis2 ай бұрын
& Martine Rothblatt
@TheOmnitom2 ай бұрын
World economic forum and klauss schwabbs normalised this lmao
@JoshuaRed-v4f2 ай бұрын
@@TheOmnitom Quit using normalized like you know what the word means
@TheOmnitom2 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRed-v4f glabal elite collective deeck'ed
@WinstonSmithGPT2 ай бұрын
“You’re a heterodox voice,” i.e. straight people like me have chosen different spokespeople for your movement and you’re accountable for what they say.
@haydenwalton27662 ай бұрын
yep, it's all getting pretty fucked up. the double, double negatives I have to sort out in my mind, just the argue with these lunatics, is tiring
@erinaltstadt4234Ай бұрын
Exactly.
@LightningStrikes2345Ай бұрын
i cannot even express how much the trans thing has not only hindered but imploded the entire acceptance of being gay.
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
Except, it hasn't.
@DonMecherJrАй бұрын
@@twiztedsynzit has for me. And most people I know
@Ann-qe6pyАй бұрын
Agree. The trans movement has ruined the reputation of the Gay and Lesbian movement. And stop with the absurd pronoun police. If you dare to disagree with them then they become vindictive. I hope that everyone who regrets their surgery will sue their grifter doctors. And especially these young people that have been hurt.
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
@@Ann-qe6py So... show us more how your ignorance rules your thought process. If anyone "ruined" the reputation of gays and lesbians, it's gays and lesbians themselves. Have you ever met a vindictive gay or lesbian when someone used to backtalk and legitimize them? They were the first to "throw hands", my dude. Seriously. Out of the low, low percentage of people who are trans, only less than 1% do. So out of 100 people who may be trans, only half of one person regrets it. And you DO know patients have to agree to their surgeries, right? Doctors can't just go in and do whatever to a patient without their permission. So no, while they could attempt to be sued, it won't be successful. Funny though you mention young people being hurt; yeah, they are, by bigots in not only the non-trans community, but the LG community too, because you know, how dare they exist.
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
If someone wasn't going to accept homosexuality because of the existence of trans people, they were never really going to accept gay people, it's just an excuse
@mountwalker27852 ай бұрын
Thanks, both of you for talking about this issue. I wish as many people as possible to see this so we can get over this miscondeption that being gay automatically means being "queer" or LGBTQIA+.
@karigirl3569Ай бұрын
It’s never been the gay neighbor that we need to worry about as far as our children. It’s the new class of neighbor looking to pull in and consume our children and their future health and wellbeing that we need to be gravely concerned about. Find a way to get your children out of the public school system before it’s too late!
@HerWanderlustАй бұрын
Yes! There’s a new podcast episode out about the indoctrination of children- it’s on the You must be Some kind of therapist podcast
@pettykittyfamАй бұрын
Dude This was wonderful 👏 As a woman who is struggling with feeling safe in public spaces THANK YOU! You're standing up for all of us! ❤❤❤
@joshuatheargonaut44122 ай бұрын
I have two brothers and an aunt that are gay and I can tell you they loathe the trans movement. What this gentleman is saying is so accurate. The whole trans lgbtqia+ movement now is akin to another movement that had armbands and a fixation on blonde hair blue eye German boys. Know what I mean? They are our Orwellian nightmare.
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
So... you, your brothers and aunt have no clue what happened in the 30's Germany nor what the GLBTQIA+ "movement" is. Maybe get some education, yeah?
@joshuatheargonaut4412Ай бұрын
@@twiztedsynz lol, people like you do exist! I thought you were just made up shorts from libs of tic croc. You and people like you are why god does not talk to us anymore.
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
I've yet to see any arm bands, and the gay blokes I know are fine with trans people. Not everyone is sexually interested in them but you don't need to want to bang someone to accept them as a person. Also pretty confusing that in one sentence you're like "my gay relatives" and then in the next you're accusing all LGBTQ+ people of being nazis because people find blonde people attractive.
@DarthDickhedАй бұрын
@@twiztedsynz You are actually the one that just doesn't get it or haven't looked into the subject enough if you can't make the connection.
@BacklumChaamАй бұрын
The acting like a dog isn’t exclusively a gay thing. Just as many straight guys that act that way-just with a woman holding the leash instead. I just don’t understand why it’s at Pride??
@erinaltstadt4234Ай бұрын
Neither do we.
@LudiusQuassasАй бұрын
Because of the umbrella term "queer". Queer just means weird in a revolutionary manner. So if you feel like you're weird and have commie leanings, you're officially queer and can attend Pride.
@zalybrainlessgenius503Ай бұрын
Because straight people don't publically parade in dog collars
@paulschumacher4308Ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw this happening
@HerWanderlustАй бұрын
Had several comments removed because of “hate speech” of calling men who demand access to women’s spaces mentally ill.
@kristinepauwels40862 ай бұрын
I agree 100 %. Marriage on itself is nothing but an agreement between two people and a statement. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course also for legal reasons. Gender dysphoria is real but rare. Being gay means you are attracted to people of the same sex but it's about love and loving another human being. For many so called transgender people it is not about loving another human and spending their lives with. It's narcissistic. Some youngsters are being indoctrinated into believing that they are in the wrong body. Although dysphoria is real but very rare, it's a neurological disorder. And it all comes down to trying to be attractive to people of the same sex, without realising that they can be without drastically altering their bodies. It is ok to be gay. It's not ok to experiment on young people, mutulating their bodies and condemn them to a life of pain, medical issues and lifelong misery. Leave our kids alone.
@agentcazuАй бұрын
As a tomboy girl, I'm of the 9 out of 10 to turn out to be a lesbian. I'm an early 90's kid and I grew up in an area accepting of LGBP didn't mind T even though it wasn't as well known when I was growing up. I got teased by other kids for saying I wanted to be a boy (in absolutely no reference to T since we didn't know about it), just typical kids being jerks all bscause I was non-gender conforming girl liking a lot of the "boys stuff". I was just a tomboy and later butch. I worked through figuring myself out all through childhood until college where I could accept and understand myself. Nowadays I would absolutely be pushed to transition even though I have no desire to be male. I'm just a lesbian and it's so disheartening seeing lesbians and bi women being erased because of the fake T's. The true trans women respect us biological women no men pretending to be women and disrespectful towards us. But I'm the homophobe while being homosexual apparently.
@Malignus682 ай бұрын
People who want to be treated the same as everyone else don't need their own flag, or their own parade, or their own month.
@joshspeed7794Ай бұрын
@@Malignus68 you mean like the Irish parade, Cinco De Mayo, Native American festivals, German fest, flags of every nation flying over many households, Chinese New Year festival and parade, the list is literally endless. I guess you want to live in a very gray world. Says a lot.
@slacktoryrecords4193Ай бұрын
@@joshspeed7794of that list, only the German fest sounds appealing. 😂
@ninatouchdown2500Ай бұрын
I have one and one flag only: Dannebrog, my national flag 🇩🇰
@risinggael1685Ай бұрын
@@joshspeed7794 all your examples are cultures...homosexualty is a sexuallity not a culture... Homosexuals don't need a flag, parade and certainly not a month....its ridiculous....the fights over homosexuals won their rights we don't need to see your sexuallity like you don't want to see ours...
@matthewrobinson3048Ай бұрын
@@joshspeed7794 Those are celebrating culture. Not degeneracy. Don't compare time honored and fondly held tradition to pride. They don't mean the same thing at all. Pride separates and divides. Cultural celebrations offer unity within a community. Intellectual dishonesty won't aid you here flame of pride!
@gmf5270Ай бұрын
I came out and came of age through the 2000s. Loud and proud doesn't mean screaming like an animal or being superior than everyone else. It mean not remaining silent and not feeling ashamed for what we are. I wanted marriage rights and adoptive rights, just like everyone else. I didn't want to force people to accept me, just to know im a person like them. The crazies of the community don't want equality. They want special privileges. I abandoned the community when they wanted to include the minor attraction flag on my beloved rainbow.
@serafine666Ай бұрын
The reason those who supported "gay rights" and gay marriage do not want to admit that the critics who alleged a slippery slope were correct was that the activists of the time swore to the bottom of their souls that if society gave them this one favor, suspended our collective common sense just this once, ignored the force of tradition and ancestral wisdom for just a moment, nothing more would be asked. It was a one-time thing. So if they admit now that their cajoling was deceptive and their big ask had poison in the details, they know they will never be heeded again and maybe even lose what they got by snake oil salesmanship. This can never be allowed.
@jezblades9913Ай бұрын
The reason gay marriage was important in this was that various previously gay supporting "charities" realized that they had reached their commercial endgame and had to find some other way of making money and keeping their jobs. Hence, the push for the alphabet people. So cynical.
@ThaMassDebater2 ай бұрын
Pride comes before the fall....
@JoshuaRed-v4f2 ай бұрын
You're listening to a whitenationalist talk BTW. Ironic
@richiep35202 ай бұрын
Copy and paste.
@lukeproctor692 ай бұрын
Trans activism has nothing to do with LGB. I loathe trans activism. Most gay people want nothing to do with what's currently being foisted upon society.
@noonesishome2 ай бұрын
100%.
@adamgoodword7888Ай бұрын
yep, Pride comes in the summer, which is before the fall. Haaa!
@suzannewood89622 ай бұрын
Well done to both for not shrinking from a frank and uncomfortable conversation. This discussion perfectly proves Andrew's assertions that what could be viewed as offensive speech to some, is best discussed openly in the pursuit of educating and changing minds.
@Dancestar1981Ай бұрын
It’s anti women
@Bkn1BttmDo11aАй бұрын
It’s pro women actually, how dare you!
@jada39748Ай бұрын
Exactly why I stand with the LGB Alliance.
@bretts8070Ай бұрын
For the first time, YT opened a link to another website upon clicking on a video, to the effing Trevor Project page. Toxic tech companies make me sick.
@morganspector51612 ай бұрын
I recently had to get hearing aids, and ended up in a clinic where doctors, PAs and staff were all women. Didn't bother me; I enjoy the company of women. At my third visit I asked the doctor if I was missing something, that it seemed all employees were women. She agreed; I asked if this was policy, and she said no but it is our preference. We are much more comfortable that way. I said "hey, works for me. Women and men alike should be free to establish their own comfort zones (I actually meant it). No branch of government, judicial or legislative, should have the power to tell people of either gender that they cannot enjoy their own "safe spaces." Let us all just live our lives.
@noonesishome2 ай бұрын
"transwomen" are destroying female only spaces. Our spaces only exists to "affirm their gender" aka be non consenting participants in their autogynophilia
@Muonium1Ай бұрын
And let's see then what would happen to such an establishment if it only wanted to hire men. We don't have to wonder. Everyone knows exactly what would happen the instant such a thing were ever to become public knowledge, but the reverse, a clinic that overtly discriminates against men, is so empowered by the gynocentric society that we in the West now all live in, that they can freely enact their misandric bigotry in the office and they don't even fear openly telling one of their own patients exactly what kind of sexist discrimination they're proudly engaging in.
@bearilliantbear17692 ай бұрын
Be a femboy. Be a tomboy. If its more about the looks than it is about the feeling on the inside, you might just maybe not be trans. Thats okay. Think about why and where all this is coming from. Give it a few years. Maybe its not a phase, but it could be a misinterpretation of what's truly going on and thats worth caution.
@Bkn1BttmDo11aАй бұрын
IM GAY AND VOTING FOR TRUMP 2024 🏳️🌈🇺🇸🫶💕✌️🇺🇸🩵 HE WILL PROTECT CHILDREN IN PRIDE PARADES AND BAN HORMONE BLOCKERS FOR MINORS, IF YOU SUPPORT THIS VOTE HIM! HE LOVES GAY PEOPLE WE NEED TO SPREAD THE TRUTH🇺🇸🏳️🌈🫶🩷TRUMP 2024! 🇺🇸🫶
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
Most trans people have to wait years before transitioning, and most hesitate for years even before that because they want to be sure. And that is how it should be. But if someone does the waiting and thinking and comes to the conclusion that that's what they need to do to live a fulfilling life, then they should have the opportunity to do so. It's their life, their body, their decision.
@FrankLoRusso-w2r2 ай бұрын
This was a great conversation. Gay man here with a partner for over 40 years. We got “married” but never considered it to be “a marriage” That’s something exclusively for heterosexual couples. Marriage is for procreation. Yes i want the same protections, but it a contract between 2 people. I love how you state that the alphabet community has become the anti gay community…. 100%
@darkzeroprojects42452 ай бұрын
I argue they're anti lgb and t. They don't want to show them in a positive light, in an appealing form. They want to be disruptive and subversive for whatever nonsense agenda. Any who are against them even if they fit the letters get treated no better if not worse than normal people. Knowing they'd do what they claim those they deem right wing would do cuz it's their side, disgusts me and convinced me they're not at all a community for you or others. They're everything they project us.
@AttmayАй бұрын
@@FrankLoRusso-w2r plenty of married h3t couples never procreate.
@netjernefer3160Ай бұрын
Lot of straight folks married but don't want children. So, according you, it's not a marriage ? 🤔
@balalaika852Ай бұрын
Who says marriage is for procreation? I know plenty of straight married people who either actively don't want children, or can't have children. Should they lose all the privileges and benefits of marriage? Should their marriages licenses be annuled? Marriage is about assets. It's about property. It's about being legally responsible for the care of another person as a replacement for social policy. And it enforces a form of public morality. Since it deems only the romantic ans sexual relationships where people share finances as worthy of that level of privilege. That's it.
@Robert-tk8ybАй бұрын
Darn this is a breath of fresh air. Thanks for the sanity. I feel better strangely enough ❤
@docdynamixАй бұрын
Andrew your are a hero for LGB. THANK YOU
@dangremaus1164Ай бұрын
Omg! I’ve been complaining about this for a few years now! I go onto Grindr as a gay male looking for other gay males, and all I see anymore is trans people. It’s so frustrating!
@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals2 ай бұрын
Call it marriage, call it civil union, call it "partners in life." Just don't tell a trans widow, a woman who divorced a suddenly demanding, crossdressing man after the discovery/revelation, that she's "a lesbian now" and just didn't realize she married her husband because of her "attraction to women."
@noonesishome2 ай бұрын
Trans widows stories broke me. I can't even imagine seeing your partner turn into a autogynophilic monster in a dress and your community shames you to continue to participate and support their husband's fetishistic delusion LARP of womanhood. Horrible.
@vitis62522 ай бұрын
T is for Trojan horse
@Canthavemybones2 ай бұрын
That’s perfect
@PleaseNThankYouАй бұрын
Without even watching this video...I have not yet watched it...I will say that I've felt this to be anti-gay as it, first, makes a caricature of the gay, but specifically those who don't want to be thought of as a man desiring another man, but to normalize THEIR desire but saying they are actually a woman. It removes the stigma and the knowledge of immorality. Then there are those who so for completely self serving, but not sexual purposes...to avoid something unpleasant, or gain access to something otherwise forbidden.
@Bkn1BttmDo11aАй бұрын
IM GAY AND VOTING FOR TRUMP 2024 🏳️🌈🇺🇸🫶💕✌️🇺🇸🩵 HE WILL PROTECT CHILDREN IN PRIDE PARADES AND BAN HORMONE BLOCKERS FOR MINORS, IF YOU SUPPORT THIS VOTE HIM! HE LOVES GAY PEOPLE WE NEED TO SPREAD THE TRUTH🇺🇸🏳️🌈🫶🩷TRUMP 2024! 🇺🇸🫶
@PleaseNThankYouАй бұрын
@Bkn1BttmDo11a look dude. No one loves gay people simply because they are gay. You are supposed to love the person as a creation of God. To say that you love gay people is equivalent to saying you love heterosexual people, and that just sounds stupid. But voting for a party (democrat) whose membership sides with Hamas, a sharia Muslim government, is equivalent to cutting off your own head before you throw yourself from a rooftop. Welcome to MAGA, where we love people, not sexual preferences.
@juliangodsend94182 ай бұрын
DEPRAVITY HAS NO BOTTOM
@joshspeed7794Ай бұрын
@@juliangodsend9418 you ARE the bottom girl.
@erinaltstadt4234Ай бұрын
Every one has a bottom. If you don’t, you should contact a medical professional.
@Krasser_CrusaderАй бұрын
@@erinaltstadt4234Two things are infinite…
@thegreatgambeenoАй бұрын
DEPRAVITY IS A TOP
@juliangodsend9418Ай бұрын
@@thegreatgambeeno TOP PRIORITY FOR THE DEPRAVED
@jamessanders145Ай бұрын
The saddest thing is that this "trans" rights push of insanity actually does an insane amount of damage to the small but very real amount of people who have genuine gender dysphoria and have had it since they were toddlers. It has nothing to do with how much you conform to gender stereotypes. Those people who genuinely have felt they were born into the wrong body and could use respect and treatment are now getting lost in the chaos and grouped into this other insanity wave. Most genuinely trans people despise what's happening.
@booradley8970Ай бұрын
I suspect it's a congenital neurological condition caused when a certain part of the brain is formed like what it is in the opposite sex. There is research on this. I feel bad for the real transsexuals.
@AttmayАй бұрын
@@jamessanders145 a groomer slur cannot be dysphoric
@jamessanders145Ай бұрын
@@Attmay what?
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
Are you insinuating that there are people out there who are faking gender dysphoria and the fact they're trans? And you think this, why?
@jamessanders145Ай бұрын
@twiztedsynz I'm not insinuating anything. Look it up. The mainstream thing is now to say dysphoria isn't even necessary for someone to want a different gender or pronouns, in fact many go as far as saying it's transphobic to say dysphoria is even a thing.
@SkrillDiscАй бұрын
Meanwhile EVERYONE is trying to erase bisexuality.
@slacktoryrecords4193Ай бұрын
Many bisexuals want to erase themselves and never come out.
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
Well not everyone, just "the gays" from what I've heard.
@breezyveezy1Ай бұрын
Let’s get real, bisexuality is just being slutty. It doesn’t make you oppressed😂
@strictlyaesthetic92022 ай бұрын
Thank You .. HOWEVER ... Gay marriage is important from a Legal point rather than a sexual aspect... In my years, same has witnessed several committed GAY couples not granted visitation when one was sick or infirmed along with losing all personal possessions in the event of one dying. These situations are rectified due to the laws associated with MARRIAGE. .... CASE CLOSED
@JoshuaRed-v4f2 ай бұрын
They don't care, they'll out you in same camps with the trans people.
@rumorcontrol78732 ай бұрын
Allowing for gay marriage opened the door to untold numbers of homosexual government workers now being allowed to get married and NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE CALLED TO TESTIFY AGAINST THEIR SPOUSES IN COURT thus creating a situation of unprecedented government corruption. Case. Re-Opened.
@andrewfoster43592 ай бұрын
I agree/disagree. Very important for us to have rights as partners. But it does not need to be called "marriage" a legal civil union is fine in my opinion😊
@strictlyaesthetic92022 ай бұрын
@@andrewfoster4359 Feel free to be regarded as SECOND class given the status as Civil Union.... The term marriage come with All LEGAL RIGHTS .... Only the narrowed minded Religious individuals have an issue with the terminology of Marriage for Gay individuals........ REMEMBER @ 50 years ago it was illegal for individuals of certain Races to marry one another. My advice for you brother Andrew. CAREFUL
@andrewfoster43592 ай бұрын
@@strictlyaesthetic9202 well in uk gives equal rights
@kostadimasАй бұрын
The LGB should be their own group and all the other letters/numbers/symbols should be their own group. These are two different communities
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
And if a TQIA+ is also LGB?
@kostadimasАй бұрын
@@twiztedsynz then they can be part of both communities. LGB is simply people attracted to their own sex. All the other letters are very fluid, always changing and are related to identity. There's hundreds of genders by now and always more added. Nothing to do with LGB. I support both groups but they are not the same
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
@@kostadimas ... If Trans people - as you say (and I absolutely agree) - can be part of the LGB, then yes, they are also "the same". As in you have a person who is same sex attracted to another person. Yes, beyond the LGB you might have people related to gender identity but no one is claiming they are the "Same" in the way you seem to think. The groups are "the same" because they are extreme minorities of the human populations. They are "the same" because they are not the "normal", aka heterosexual and present as the gender they were assigned at birth. They are "the same" because, being part of that 'not normal' both communities of sexual and gender presentations were ostracized by those of a certain religious type, demonized and down right executed just for being who they are and going with what they were 'made to be'. Unless a trans person is also LGB, no one is saying they are "the same" as one group is - yes - based on sexuality and attraction and one is based on gender and presentation. But it was better to group up and increase their numbers to fight back from the same position in society, than try to fight a losing battle on their own. What is being done to the trans side of the LGBTQIA+ community is no different than what the LG are doing to the B, and have been for decades.
@MeryaweyАй бұрын
@@twiztedsynzThe LG are doing to the B? Excuse me? I'm bisexual, and the T should be included there, the T were quite worse to us than what the LG were, I remind you how the T started to accuse us of being transphobic when we were trying to reject them romantically or sexually 15 years ago, the LG never understood us so they just agreed with what it seemed the political correction of the moment and saying things like "yeah you like both why you don't like them, it must be transphobia like they say", "I'm lesbian, I just like women, but you don't have an excuse". They got it when the T started to say the same thing to the lesbians not that long ago 😂 and the nonsense of "sexual preferences are transphobic" appeared. This is just to mention one example. Some people LG can deny the existence of the B and say that it's a temporal thing that they're gay or straight, yeah, and a lot of people don't like that attitude, but the T directly tries to eliminate us all and that's politically correct, and they define what it is being B (And L and G) and if we don't agree then we are bigots, intolerant, transphobic, terfs, etc. I remember the time nobody could say they were B, and everybody started to say you had to be pansexual, because bisexuality was transphobic, literally. All those things don't happened because of the LG, the definitions of their sexual orientations have also suffered modifications by people who are not even LGB. You maybe don't like it, but the T has being a cancer for the LGB these last decades, working little by little to create the problems we have today, and becoming more anti gay and mysoginistic each day. I definetely prefer the LG next to me, I have absolutely nothing to do with the TQ+. LGB must be separated and it doesn't matter what the rest say, I think a great part of the LGB have already chosen to not identify themselves with a LGBTQ+ but just with the LGB.
@temmieAckkermanАй бұрын
@@twiztedsynzeverything after the Lgb & actual Trans ppl is nonsense
@vertigo-gc1buАй бұрын
I've been gay ever since I've felt attraction. I've been forced into trans ideologies and even forced to think I'm trans myself over toxic manipulation. I reject any modern lgbtq+ movements now and support the lgb separation. I'm only 21
@FirstLast-ii5cpАй бұрын
“Forced” by whom into what “trans ideaologies” ?
@fettbub922 ай бұрын
Im pretty tired of conflating sexual attraction with sex dysphoria. Someone can be homosexual, and support trans rights; without being grouped together, categorically. This has created such confusion in the general discussion, and really made things harder for everyone involved.
@Attmay2 ай бұрын
I cannot in good conscience support oppressor class right under any circumstances. It is repressive tolerance.
@ted1091Ай бұрын
Exactly. To his point that Trans women (and sometimes men) are all over Grindr. I routinely remind them that it's men for men. Then they get their panties in a bunch.
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
The reason we're all "lumped together" is basically safety in numbers. And that there are trans, non-binary, gender fluid and others beyond the GLB that fall under the GLB banner too.
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
I don't think it's made anything harder, "let people live their lives so long as they're not hurting people" and "don't make political policy based off of religion" is not very hard at all. Conservatives and religious folk target gay people and trans people for the same reasons; perceived sexual deviance. The reason why conservatives want to pit gay people against trans people is because gay people are more accepted and trans people are their new punching bag now that they've lost the fight to bully gay people, and they're afraid they're going to lose traction on the trans issue too. In reality, many republicans have floated the idea of repealing gay marriage the same as they did abortion in the supreme court this election cycle. Minorities are stronger together, that's why conservatives are trying to create division. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy; if you discriminate against minorities you're not a part of, your own group will be next.
@ted1091Ай бұрын
@@rwild9356 I think you miss the point, because Gay people support the rights of Trans people. We just don't want Trans grouped together with Gay. Trans erases Gay. If you're Trans, you're unwilling to live as gender nonconforming or as homosexual. You'd rather change your gender and then you don't have to experience antigay oppression. So when you change gender, you become hetero and you erase Gay. Also, why would I want to be in a movement which encourages gender extremes ( big boobs, lipstick, heels, eyelashes and nails 💅)? That's heteronormativity. I still support Trans rights, I just don't want it in the Gay movement.
@jsun7972Ай бұрын
Assuming a gay person is coming on to you just by saying that they are gay was always weird to me. They just want you to know so you stop assuming they are just like you and talking to them as if they have the same likes as you.
@juliangodsend94182 ай бұрын
WOE UNTO THEM THAT CALL EVIL GOOD AND GOOD EVIL,WHO CALL DARKNESS LIGHT AND LIGHT DARKNESS,WHO SUBSTITUTE BITTER FOR SWEET AND SWEET FOR BITTER,WOE UNTO THEM THAT ARE WISE IN THEIR OWN EYES AND PRUDENT IN THEIR OWN SIGHT!
@FullMoonHowlАй бұрын
Thank you for both being so refreshingly calm and respectful and reasoned with each other and with your distinct points of view. I personally think that the way the trans in question accuse of bigotry and hate speech ultimately comes down to control. Whoever cries victim the loudest and screams, "I'm triggered, so I'm right!" the longest is the one in control. NOT so coincidentally, control (especially coupled with a lack of empathy and refusal to be accountable for their words and actions) is also the endgame of someone with narcissistic personality disorder. 🤔
@justicehonorie2 ай бұрын
I replied to an anti-trans post once and I was banned from the page because I said there is no such thing as a loony bin you can dump people into.
@DNYLNYАй бұрын
Trans ppl now get the credit for the gay rights movement. There are pictures from stonewall. It was vastly gay white men that were there that day and gay men fought for decades after, but the statues for gay rights go to black trans women
@cubeincubes2 ай бұрын
how is conversion therapy different from transitioning?
@kat87532 ай бұрын
It's not. A boy shows interest in a girl's doll, and immediately, people want to put him on puberty blockers.
@slacktoryrecords4193Ай бұрын
You’re correct. A same sex-attracted person who “transitions” and now considers him- or herself “straight” is no different from one of those “ex-gay” people who claim that intense praying, etc. has allowed them to “become” heterosexual. The only difference is one is celebrated by progressives and “good” people, and the other is looked down upon with skepticism and perhaps derision. But only one creates a whole mess of problems for society. It’s funny how wrongheaded the “good” people are when it comes to this stuff.
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
@@kat8753 Well that's not at all true. If a boy shows interest in a girls doll, what's really happening is parents are freaking out thinking their kid is anything but heterosexual and traumatizing that poor kid regardless of their gender status.
@DonMecherJrАй бұрын
@@twiztedsynzwell. There gender status would be, and always would be boy. There's no changing that
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
The definition of conversion therapy: "the practice of attempting to cause a non-heterosexual person to become heterosexual by using psychoanalysis, behavior modification, spiritual counseling, etc." The definition of transitioning: "[to] adopt permanently the outward or physical characteristics that match one's gender identity, as opposed to those associated with the sex registered at birth." Conversion therapy is an attempt to make an LGBTQ+ person not LGBTQ+ anymore. Transition is a set of changes a person makes to better reflect their own identity. Hope this helps.
@jennityrell3304Ай бұрын
Love gay marriage but I hate these crazies making us gays look so bad. Why does everyone have to be a victim these days?? Being a victim isn’t good!
@Bkn1BttmDo11aАй бұрын
IM GAY AND VOTING FOR TRUMP 2024 🏳️🌈🇺🇸🫶💕✌️🇺🇸🩵
@hecwill1Ай бұрын
Thank You! As a gay man I approve of this message
@wkrapekАй бұрын
About a decade ago, someone I know had decided her son was trans. A real mannish thing with a househusband and a male best friend that we are to call “she.” What a coincidence! How wonderful for her! It was made perfectly clear to me that I was not to say a damn thing. Now, after all these years on hormones? He’s trying to kill himself. And once again, it’s been made perfectly clear to me that I’m not to say a damn thing. She had rage quit Texas and moved up to Canada. And it turns out that she joined (what I consider) a cult where everybody’s kid was a trans. They even live in their own community. EDIT: I’m a gay.
@slacktoryrecords4193Ай бұрын
Hard to tell what sex the players in this story are, but I got the gist of it, roughly 😂
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
Yeah... no. Something like this "cult" would have made news up here in Canada, and no such thing has. Good one though.
@Bkn1BttmDo11aАй бұрын
IM GAY AND VOTING FOR TRUMP 2024 🏳️🌈🇺🇸🫶💕✌️🇺🇸🩵 HE WILL PROTECT CHILDREN IN PRIDE PARADES AND BAN HORMONE BLOCKERS FOR MINORS, IF YOU SUPPORT THIS VOTE HIM! HE LOVES GAY PEOPLE WE NEED TO SPREAD THE TRUTH🇺🇸🏳️🌈🫶🩷TRUMP 2024! 🇺🇸🫶
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
Deciding someone else is trans is never okay, and kids cannot be put on hormones without their own consent. Her kid is probably trying to kill themself because Texas is a really tough environment to survive in when you are trans, and the government there is putting all kinds of restrictions that make surviving there harder. I've never heard of any trans or gay specific communities in Canada or elsewhere. I know there's one part of Australia with a large LGBTQ+ presence but that's it.
@FirstLast-ii5cpАй бұрын
@@Bkn1BttmDo11a no way, no how….are you fucking insane?
@SimbaOSАй бұрын
Regarding marriage... we should first understand what marriage is, why it exists and why the society came up with it in the first place. Marriage undoubtedly provides the best conditions for raising children. Marriage is a kind of contract between society and citizens, where the society says: "here is your marriage, in this marriage you will create and raise new members of society, and in exchange society will give you certain benefits" (these benefits differ from country to country but it exists everywhere). It also defines certain obligations and responsibilities towards children and family in general. Therefore, the purpose of marriage is to create the best conditions for raising new members of society, that is the fundamental purpose of marriage. Grown adults don't need marriage to live their lives as they want and with whomever they want, marriage is because of children, to protect them and to provide them the best. For this reason, the institution of marriage is the life union of a man and a woman exclusively. I don't mind if someone lives with whomever they want, just don't call it marriage. As someone said: if everything is marriage, nothing is. As for the trans movement, I knew this was going to happen the first time gay activist sued the bakery for refusing to make a cake for gay "wedding". It is a slippery slope, it will never end. There will be no point where activists will say: "ok, we're satisfied, we wont do activism anymore, we won't push for more", that will never happen. So, paradoxically, what happened is that "Revolution devours its children". They used to label people as "homophobes", now they are labelled as "transphobes" themselves.
@balalaika852Ай бұрын
Marriage exists to pass on property to sons fathered by the owner of said property. Why would marriage be uniquely suited to raising children? All marriage achieves is combining all your assets. Why would that be the thing that children care most about?
@SimbaOSАй бұрын
@@balalaika852 I explained that. Marriage is a kind of contract that provides the best conditions for raising children. It's what keeps a nuclear family together. It's a blueprint for a successful society. It also provides children with a model of a man and a woman, their relationship and desirable behaviour in society in general. If it weren't for marriage and the obligations that come from it, men would go around making children, with no obligations to them or to their mothers. Marriage is what binds them, both morally and legally.
@BeenNoticingАй бұрын
Almost every culture throughout history the ceremonial contract has also been with/under God. It is the key that differentiates capital M Marriage from the numerous other ways people engage in coupling. The whole *legal* battle was over the word "Marriage" not the concept of homosexual couples having the rights they deserve. It would have been a lot more work, and taken years to create the framework for gay couples legal rights, so they just changed the legal definition of the word Marriage instead. The cultural battle was used to over shadow and win the legal battle.
@SRWill64Ай бұрын
The trans and the weird stuff that's going on is ALL POLITICAL!!! We need to defeat the party that is ALLOWING this stuff to go on. We need to come back to common sense.
@Bkn1BttmDo11aАй бұрын
IM GAY AND VOTING FOR TRUMP 2024 🏳️🌈🇺🇸🫶💕✌️🇺🇸🩵 HE WILL PROTECT CHILDREN IN PRIDE PARADES AND BAN HORMONE BLOCKERS FOR MINORS, IF YOU SUPPORT THIS VOTE HIM! HE LOVES GAY PEOPLE WE NEED TO SPREAD THE TRUTH🇺🇸🏳️🌈🫶🩷TRUMP 2024! 🇺🇸🫶
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
It's all political in that trans are being put in the spotlight now. Hormone therapy was invented in the 1940s and at the time was marveled as an achievement of man kind! Politicians should just stay out of gay and trans people's lives.
@ruimartins5976Ай бұрын
My father's best friend from childhood was gay. My father was a short guy, like 5.4, and his friend was 5.11, so he always had my fathers back. My father loved him for that. He eventually become a famous artist here in Portugal called Alex "Mister Gay". So that was my reality growing up. I'm fed up with all this hate and rhetoric from the alphabet people. I'm not gay, but I would hate to have this people represent me if I was.
@smileyglitter852Ай бұрын
What kills me is them letting minor attracted people in the community...
@MeryaweyАй бұрын
From what I know maps (pedos) are not included, they have been rejected a lot of times. But the pedos keep insisting, creating flags, symbols, behaving and talking like gays, because it worked with trans, so they also try it. But there are people hidding their real intentions behind the lgbt brand, the obsession they have with the kids is just not normal. I dislike that too.
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
They're called MAPs and I guarantee you the LGBTQ+ community is viciously against them.
@thegreatgambeenoАй бұрын
That's not happening with the larger parts of the pro-gay movement. It may be happening somewhere along the way, and it will get weeded out pretty quickly. Only predatory mindsets & weak-willed cult minds will fall for that shit.
@FirstLast-ii5cpАй бұрын
And when did that happen exactly?
@acetributonАй бұрын
This video is highly underrated
@Neo_Red_Pill2 ай бұрын
Completely agree
@Brian-cr6rbАй бұрын
I'm having trouble believing just how much sense this discussion makes! Thank you so much for making me feel like I'm not alone with how I feel about all this insanity! I'm 42, gay, married to my husband since 2011, who I met in 2001. At my mothers funeral a couple years ago, the priest at my catholic church my husband and I as being married! We were both shocked to see the progress. Now this crazyness is moving us back to the 50's like you discussed. Why can't we just not go to a place where nobody cares about what goes on when the lights go out. Keep your mouth shut and stop shoving it down the necks of those who just don't need to hear about pronouns and identity.
@Brian-cr6rbАй бұрын
Recognized us as being married, my apologies.
@doby1buddy2Ай бұрын
What happened to loving yourself as you are and accepting oneself? It seems the trans movement has derailed the LGB train.
@twiztedsynzАй бұрын
Funny you say that, when that's all the 'trans movement' wants. They didn't derail anything, rather the LGB has decided to believe Heterosexuals that they did.
@rwild9356Ай бұрын
Sometimes loving and accepting yourself means losing 20 pounds so that you can be happier with how you look. Sometimes it means getting plastic surgery to fix a cleft lip or fatty lumps that make your eyes sag. Transitioning is no different.
@doby1buddy2Ай бұрын
@@rwild9356 As if cutting off your healthy breast or chopping off your penis is the same🤡