Exposing the Narcissist : Devaluation

[@ladyvirgo013]

During the devaluation, I had no idea what was happening within my husband, looking back, when I took his phone one night because his behavior was shady, we woke up while I had his phone and I swear he wanted to kill me, no joke! 12 years married and then the monster exposed himself. During his brutal discard about 2 weeks later, his eyes went dark and his voice changed 😈 Although it's a very painful realization, I'm so grateful hes gone on to bathe in alcohol consumption with his next appliance. They both deserve whatever they have coming. I don't need that low vibe in my home or life

[@ninjaaf8143]

Speaking from my perspective, I don't warn people about narcissists and what they're truly capable of because im seeking revenge, no, I do it because I know the pain, heartache and utter devastation in every area of a person's life, your kind is capable of. My moral compass obligated me to do that because I know that pain and I would NEVER knowingly want someone to go through that if it could be avoided. My protective instincts kick in and I put on my cape and I try and save someone who may not have the voice, strength or intellect to save themselves. So no it's not revenge I seek, not at all. While you roam this earth seeking the souls you can devour, my kind, the saviour empath, roams this earth seeking the souls we can save.

[@26pinkpixie]

@Ninja AF have you experienced any negative repercussions?

[@amberl4053]

Just believing in transparency will motivate giving a heads up. The people in the majority that just shut up and move on are only excusing it, just like any other kind of abuse.

[@amberl4053]

I must say dealing with the abuse has certainly strengthened me- if I hadn't discussed it or retaliated at all I dont know where my head would be at right now.

[@Cat-sx6ep]

i with you ninja af silence is not an option for me i will help and watch him crumble he almost killed me quietly emotionally , financially and i am a single parent gtfoh

[@kristinamusantejd735]

@@paulinerebel845 Agreed. Quietly leave, don’t put any attention on them, and take care of yourself. Trying to warn others will be disaster and will keep you in their grips and keeps you in hell.

[@stelamaria3277]

I seek no revenge, I want to heal my trauma and move on. Thank you HG Tudor.

[@Geeronimo99]

Same.

[@Katie-ht7bt]

Exposing the narcissist rarely works and has a high risk of backfiring on the empath... of course there are always exceptions in which exposing the narcissist might be necessary but in most situations exposure does more harm than good. Keeping composure over your emotions is key. 🔑

[@saraboyd1892]

Yeah Katie. Such true words.

[@TheDeadofNightAmbience]

Some of us aren't afraid, Tudor. Welcome to the new breed.

[@variantways2704]

Unfortunately...as a narcissist ages...they really don't see how PATHETIC they appear to everyone else...But then they're too stupid and dazed over themselves to realize it either...they usually get USED by another narcissist...KARMA!...and people laugh behind their backs.

[@annd1411]

True, when I saw what he liked from me, transactional relationship, I didn’t accept his proposal for marriage at first but accepted the ring and accepted monetary gifts throughout our time together. When he lost his job, I didn’t want him starting in my home. He moved back to his home state, and would call often that he loved and missed me. In the end after a discard because he went back to an ex from his small town, I felt better getting out of him what no one else had. Small victory in the whole big picture. Still stung but glad I gained something tangible from him. It wasn’t bad everyday, but when it was bad, it was bad.

[@edgreen8140]

I have seen this. The one narc just lovebombed the other midranger and than stole thousands of dollars in business. Reply to varient ways.

[@philyd48]

Tid bits of pull back from the victim and narcs pathological toxic space and calling out their Behavior with consequences!!! Disengages the narc.

[@misiasert1348]

yes!!! exactly!

[@ktconst]

Agreed all. They have arrested development. The circuitry in their brains that allow for growth and change and empathy are burned out. You can have a warmer and more enlightening conversation with a fence post.

[@ninjaaf8143]

Narcissists are perfection at brain washing. Even to the point of defending their behaviour, while they're in the middle of utterly devouring you

[@amandab262]

Great explanation

[@LilithLiberated]

Perhaps one silver lining to recognizing the utterly pathetic nature of my former narcissist is the knowledge that he will destroy himself. His life is going to be utterly miserable and I don’t have to waste any energy making it so. Why would I waste any further energy on him when his own refusal to engage with reality will torture him for me? He deserves this misery but I don’t deserve having to waste any further energy on him.

[@LC_from_MO]

Thank You! The attempt to escape from a narcissist is very dangerous indeed!

[@jeanettecook1088]

Yes it is... I know, I've done it. No contact, set up your ducks in advance very quietly, leave and never go back. 🎉

[@amberl4053]

Before you know what you're dealing with- you're thinking " is this person really stupid, are they joking or are they actually really very disturbed?" They have all three qualities.

[@1991windsor]

Yes, in the beginning I never knew when to take him serious or not and I probably laughed off a lot of things more than what I should have because I didn't even know what a narcissist really was.

[@laleezy77]

That's exactly wht u think...I will know next time!

[@ktconst]

Well said. When you smell something you’ve stepped in before, you start watching where you walk. 😊

[@fitnesssoup7553]

You keep on saying they’re stupid. They’re behaviors can be infuriating! Really they’re not dumb, they’re just incapable of truly relating. They’re every move is calculated and in their own single interest.

[@sararichardson737]

That’s their cover. It’s so insidious. Pity the poor dumb lambs, Not!

[@karriphillips5090]

You don't need public opinion to further complicate what you've already been through. It's time to heal & give your self the care.

[@1991windsor]

This is very eerily accurate! I think the only people that see the narcissist as he/she truly is are all their past IPPS's.

[@DopamineDecor]

What is an IPPS?

[@davidmosher9470]

@@DopamineDecor Past abusees?

[@debbiehomesley509]

@@DopamineDecor intimate partner primary source

[@theresefournier3269]

I so concur... why! who else ever could?!

[@Joy-Marie369]

Every single IPPS is shelved. The narcissist always comes back to hover in some form.

[@angelajansons9037]

My narc eldest sister recently stole my child's college fund, all nice and legal as she was my parents' trustee, yet still insists to everyone she is the moral one, she is the responsible one, she is in the right, etc., etc. Your videos helped my daughter and I come to terms with how and why this happened and how everyone else in our family just stood by and allowed it.

[@suzannebrady6201]

Wow! This episode was so good for me to hear! I tried to explain my husbands behavior to our pastor at church, and hoped that he could talk to him for me . BUT nooo my ex is smooth, charming and he also gives the church lots and lots of $!! Sooo, my husband explained to the pastor that I was stressed & had a lot on my plate “..bla bla bla . I was so upset! So, I eventually, finally left my husband & that church !

[@teresaz7152]

Good job...a lot of pastors are closet narcs too.

[@sararichardson737]

Praise be

[@sadhumannell2769]

Believe in yourself.

[@chrisliv8973]

I have no desire to expose the ex narc. Everyone will figure it out soon enough.

[@luckylass5444]

A life well lived, post narcissist, is more than enough.

[@jackpetersen7545]

Lucky Lass,You look gorgeous 🌹🌷,Hope you are not with a narcissist!

[@tinajones5548]

He has exposed himself with his bizarre behaviour. I didn't have to lift a finger or speak a word.

[@WhineyOne]

I have no desire to expose him. I love knowing what he is and watching him flop around like a fish.

[@susiep.7372]

My ex Narc lost already his formerly acceptable look, cause he is an alcoholic. Karma will do it's job, no question. He will end up alone, ...maybe in a dorm. Cause NOBODY likes him. That's his punishment... Your kind is so arrogant, you will fall over your arrogance...

[@hayleyburgess7307]

Talking about what you went through can and maybe will bring you through to the other side. When you are truly, truly aware of the situation there is no more talking. You take the wisdom/knowledge you have accepted into your heart and you start the healing process. I deeply appreciate your candor.

[@AwakeningLeela]

This video is amazing I have been on the receiving end of covert narcissistic abuse, a woman that came into a spiritual community on KZbin and turned my life upside down all because of complete and utter jealousy. I had no idea the next three years of my life my personal life my connections my work and even the way I look at myself was going to be completely disrupted by this evil insidious behaviour of the covert narcissist. It's a very long story but the last 2 months I have finally gains control of my life again and have totally and utterly worked out what happened and the behaviour of her I know exactly how they operate. You see I spent some time exposing her I had to because she was ruining my reputation not only that but my business. These people cannot get away with this anymore,I'm quite aware of how they twist reality and make an innocent person look completely guilty. it is time thatthese people and this behaviour was exposed and I will do anything I can for the truth to be unveiled

[@lix296]

I hope you all realise that a narcissist does NOT sit about planning all their moves, it just comes naturally to them and that's why they do not even realise they are narcissists

[@gillianbrookwell1678]

I didn't really know much about narcissistic behaviour nor what a Narcissist was until about six years ago; My ex husband has isolated me from family, friends and loved ones for 40 years and I never realized how controlling and manipulative he was until I ended up having to go into counselling therapy.

[@castieldiallo2945]

Don't seek revenge on your narc partner or ex partner. What they did to you will visit them in multiplied form. You are now away from being provoked, emotionally manipulated ,future faking and non accountability. Enjoy your new chapter. Hopefully with people that appreciate you.

[@hibbertsh]

This is exactly what i needed to hear HG. I only explained to people very close to me my experience, many of them did not like him, they saw something offensive about him that I did not see. I rejected an attempt at hoovering a few months ago... by saying "No futher work for you here" he blocked me and scuttled away. This after he damaged a vehicle I own costing an enormous sum of money to repair. I have blocked him everywhere. I see him as very immature and a coward! I am so glad I saw the light!

[@sadhumannell2769]

❤

[@jeanpast7508]

I expose the Narcissist and I would do again, and again and again. Walking in truth not their fantasy. Thank You Hg Tudor.

[@isotope73]

I believe most of us on the autism spectrum have LESS emotional thinking than normals & empaths. Which comes in very handy when you are aspergers and empathic. I know for myself I can turn off a switch, walk away, and never look back.

[@amberl4053]

I've lived as the crazy woman ostracized by groups of enablers for yrs...has not turned me into someone that will keep quiet about abuse- that would be the narc winning. I've just learned to laugh at these kind when they try to blatantly lie to me. They ALL had to escape me. Too bad for them. Cowards.

[@WhiteBirdMustFly1]

Yes, they will not see your face, because they cannot argue or debate what they don't know you will throw at them back into their now "old" act, which has the same old pattern.

[@katwoman8595]

Wow, this happened to me. When the devaluation started, I was dumbfounded. I reached out to mutual friend of ours, or so I thought at the time, she was actually an ex of his and I spilled my guts over all the terrible behavior and discretions. She completely took his side, (he’d already gotten to her and made me out as crazy). I realized later that though an ex, she was still under his spell. This woman was making a high end 6 figure income, smart enough to think for herself, at least I thought at the time. She still defended him. He had left her in the dust in the past, but his perfect, well dressed manipulative ways had kept her loyal to him. It blew my mind. So, at that point, I started the downward spiral. Teetering between my knowing he was dark, but questioning my reality. My instincts kicked in and I lit up. I know I’m a super empath now, but it took me feeling like I was all alone to kick it in to high gear. He’s scared to death of me now and all his minions can suck it

[@KristonMahr]

I noticed that the word "devalostiion" almost has "diva" in it. That's the name of my singer exes alternate ego. Nice.

[@katimaines4361]

It took me 20 yrs to recover financially and emotionally and I’m still trying to deal with a son who has the same behavior. Having learned a few lessons, I don’t deal with the son. Son would only be satisfied if my blood was for sale daily and he got the money. Sounds dramatic. Thank you Dr T

[@narcfreeatlast6975]

What's the point?? Without emotional thinking, the proper mindset should be: I'm free, and no longer under his/her spell. They are no longer my problem, and others need to see for themselves what the narc is. On some sunny day while the birds are singing the narc's mask will drop drop droppety drop.

[@PRETTYGIRLSWAGG918]

Boom crackle pop !!!

[@CamCam-mq6ji]

There could be legal reasons for wanting exposure. It's not as simple as walking away

[@sreach93]

Probably one of the best channels I've come across looking for answers. My ex is looking more like a narcissist with patterns of love bombing, devaluation, discarding and certainly hoovering. The moment l started putting boundaries up ( the word NO ) the devaluation, disrespect, disconnection etc started happening. The smear campaign started after the breakup, new supply found quickly...life is a breeze for her it seems, while I'm languishing in therapyband listening to content like this to make sense of it all

[@dianajane6185]

I am learning so much from you. I discovered your books a few years ago, then recently came across your wonderful videos. You continue to amaze me with your insightful analyses, especially in your ability to dissect and articulate logically crazy-making dynamics that seem to occur outside the realm of logic. But you bring them to light under the Tudorscope. Staggeringly insightful and helpful of you to point out that emotional thinking and compassion can restrain the target’s defenses and leave them vulnerable to further destruction. There are so many things to appreciate about your excellent work. Thank you, HG.

[@whyaddnamehere]

I have learned so much from your videos! Thank you for opening my eyes with my past relationships.

[@nellsmith9721]

Me too ThAnkyou HG 😊

[@TheRonaldbaxter]

This is an excellent video. I don’t like the term “empath” as I think a lot of Coverts hide behind the term. However, as I do possess empathy, my instinct was to expose her to herself, make her see what is wrong and offer to forgive and be a friend. I realise this is not possible. I do also occasionally fantasise about exposing her to the world at large. However, as you point out, this will most definitely backfire on me.

[@pickmeupstix]

Spot on!! I was just saying that to someone about my friend who announced she was an empath right when I met her and it was a tiny little red flag. Even though I’ve realized that I fall on that side of the scale, I too don’t like using that term cause it’s been so tainted by overuse. I like to say I’m just a super sensitive being 😂

[@sadhumannell2769]

“Get out and stay out” HG.

[@mariag5201]

I left him and exposed him during the golden period of a hoovering. He needs my energy and resources more than ever during this lockdown...love bombing to me is even worse than devaluation.

[@paulaismael6549]

I am simply amazed! Going no contact since last Xmas, I knew I was a daughter of 2 narcissists (father overt mother covert). What I did not know is that my mother is a greater and my father an ultra. I recorded the discard and said a few months later when they tried to Hoover me back that I was going to expose them in public. Never heard of them again. 🙏

[@ANGEL1070]

I’ve just had a run in with an Ultra Narcissist who is a highly specialized MD. My husband is also a MD . This eye specialist totally LOST IT! I just sat there realizing this man fits HG Tudor Ultra definition. Most likely I MAY report him to the medical board! Still contemplating it. That is after we find a new eye specialist!

[@sararichardson737]

You’ve learnt a lot from proximity to such evil. Alas

[@andriajohnson4741]

I already exposed him...He blocked me this morning everywhere lol..I blocked him too

[@mov1ngforward]

Keep it that way! Stay strong! 🙏❣

[@Cat-sx6ep]

yasss get it gurl

[@WhiteBirdMustFly1]

They will lick their wound and replace their broken mirror, some cannot stop. They will kill first, because they see it as You trying to kill them.

[@arizbejuarez3553]

How did you do it? I did it when his nephew was in the precense of the fight, when I broke up with him he got so emotionally abusive, said the most horrible things so I told him what he was. He was still strying to convince me not to break up with him after the fact.

[@BridiesMammaG]

I knew. He was incredibly covert but the I love you after a month rang alarm bells. I tried to fix things, speak to him when he started the devalue but I saw what he was doing. My emotional thinking rejected the knowledge but my body was screaming to get away from him

[@KKk-lz7ut]

Same, mine said he loved me exactly a month after we met for the first time, in the gym. My body was like ‘run!!!!’ But I didn’t listen to my gut. It lasted 11 months and it was the worst relationSHIT I have ever had, I was almost dead at the end of it, I started having psoriasis, I couldn’t sleep every time I met him, I couldnt eat, I started smoking (me, who absolutely loved healthy lifestyle prior to meeting him!!!), he was toxic as fuuuuuuck! Never had I met anyone who has treated me the way he did. I am sooo thankful that I finally woke up!!! I love the clarity of mind I have now.

[@narchelsin7679]

Excellent video, HG. One of your best. Very thorough. Clearly I was dealing with a Greater.

[@KristonMahr]

I find the act of revenge should flow naturally. It doesn't have to be a grand act. Deliberate, foul, desperate revenge can get ugly and make you look pathetic. Know when and what shots to take. As people here in the comment said it's YOUR composure you need to keep, which is the opposite of EXPOSURE.

[@rhondawalker2020]

Excellent advice! His "friends" are totally duped by him. They merely say, yeah he's a bit difficult, but that's just Larry being Larry or, yeah he has temper tantrums but, yadda, yadda...... "he's a nice guy at heart." GOSO, is the best advice! I divorced him, thanks to you! He even refused to leave,I had to get a Court Order to have him evicted from my 🏡! Then he moved across the street from my 🏡 and mooched off of the neighbor for over a year, finally they tried to evict him, but he wouldn't leave! Then they packed him up and physically moved him out! What a POS! Nightmare! Please keep the videos coming, thanks HG!

[@lorettawright3557]

Shit , I say it naturally. Not to hurt them, only to let them know, they aren't as smart, as they think they are. When I know I'm with a narc, whatever they say, to bullshit me, I counter with, let me get this straight, I repeat what they say, back to them. Then I tell them, now this is how I perceive it and give them the truth. That look of," she knows me". The real person comes out.

[@ophilliaophillia5918]

Absolutely true- every word said- true I thought about exposing the narcissist after everything he did to me- but was afraid of how much worse he would do to me- so I stayed quiet and terrified!

[@joannemcevoy4232]

The point made in this video is relevant. Based on what I had been going through at the hands of the last narc (who is a lesser victim based on what I have read from HG's work) since I was subjected to constant mistreatment, exposing him to others would have put me in grave danger. As the video progressed my thought as to how such exposure would be handled by a Greater or Ultra was correct in that the repercussions of attempted exposure will be dealt with at a later point in a calculated fashion.

[@MargaretM-vd7bb]

That Video was So Exlpanatory. Brilliant. Thankyou HG. ❤️🌻

[@rosaartemisg5027]

I think we all know what we are dealing with from the beginning. Denial, codependency and the desire to control the narcissist make us totally insane and f... up ! Thats on us not them . Why is it some survive and thrive around narcissists and others collapse and become the walking dead ? As a child I had no choice. Now I do. Im not running from anything or anyone. All is well 😊

[@26pinkpixie]

Once again you nailed it! I have been disengaged from. I have a lot of hard evidence and proof that would expose him to the point of beyond his repair that he has no idea I have therefore hasn’t smeared me about those things. He did exactly that during devaluation; one step ahead smeared me that I was “crazy” so when his excruciating behavior upset me he’d say “see?! She’s crazy!” This time I’m ten steps ahead of him and trying to decide if I should do it or not. I want justice and to clear up his lies! HG Tudor when are you making the next video re: exposure post disengagement? I’m torn and need to decide what path I’m taking ASAP.

[@nicolemendez8418]

HG as much as u state to be an Ultra Narc, the Super Empath in me, tells me you're actually protecting our type 😏. But I love the show, thank you. 🥰😍

[@WhiteBirdMustFly1]

I Do love the show Too. I'm happy to follow your top self Act. Bravo!

[@AussieTruthSeeker]

It's not about us. He gets supply from his adoring fans. Stop kidding yourself.

[@aprilcoursey4533]

And therein lies a trap. He is feeding from us, and we pay his bills.

[@kalenab7431]

@@wildflower2000 Don't believe he is trying to help anyone but himself, as it's his way to get more supply and adoration. It's all about his overblown, and very insecure ego. He believes he is dominating everyone on his page, as it gives him more fuel and power.

[@sadhumannell2769]

I have learned a lot to protect myself. Thanks HG enjoy your narcissism ! LOL

[@bluntweirdo]

This video is so relevant it is now my favorite video you have ever done. I have shared some of your work elsewhere before but this video especially is going to be something I am going to reference with guards to helping my friends who are escaping narcissist because unfortunately I know a few. The strangest thing but there you go. Thank you.

[@bluntweirdo]

I left my narc during devaluation and I DID expose him. My gut made me stay away. glad I did.

[@FaithfulandTrue949]

@@bluntweirdo please share in solicitors pages, family court websites, church comments sections and anywhere else that could save innocent children. This description is spot on, thanks.

[@bluntweirdo]

@@FaithfulandTrue949 unfortunately I don’t have time to do that… I am running 3 businesses. 💀

[@yathome5596]

Don’t bother trying to expose those losers, they are damaged goods and eventually they will be discovered on their own. Simply walk away and go no contact!

[@allaroundme5429]

Get out, stay out

[@badnana1833]

He actually made a FB post stating he had been cheating on me for the last 8 years and that none of it was my fault. He wasn't asking for pity, understood if people never talked to him again, was going to be seeking counseling because of all the people in the world I did not deserve to be treated how he has treated me. He tagged me!! And he actually has a counseling appointment tomorrow!! I am completely baffled at this point BUT no that's not true, I'm still in shock and I am purging items that I know I won't be taking with me. This woman is listening, reading, praying and purging. I'm disabled so I need this extra time anyway.

[@brunabarreto7724]

I did that. With his next prime victim and his sister. He was so furious and never came after me again. After 10 years hovering me. He stopped.

[@NapoleonGelignite]

I became quite cruel when I realised my ex’s program. I would deliberately cycle rapidly through triggering anger, ignoring it resulting in a pity play, pretending to give sympathy, and then deliberately triggering rage using a known trigger. Laughing at the rage and smiling contentedly, then apologise and say it was my fault, then quickly repeat the cycle. My ex bounced from rage to self-pity so quickly she became depressed and reluctant to emotionally engage at all. I found it quite amusing, and the result was she said it wasn’t working and we separated. I am disappointed at how many years it took to see the reality of the gaslighting, black and white thinking, cruelty and dishonesty. She immediately moved onto a new host, but they pretty quickly realised that she had ‘issues’ and broke up. I’m quite happy now and I know she hates it.

[@forensicbadassprofiling]

All I can say is DONT try to expose the narcissist. 1. First off, you're not being logical. Ur trapped in emotional pain right now. 2. You have no idea who you think you know everything about is someone who's been a lie all along n you know nothing about them at all. 3. You can't. Ur not a narcissist. 4. You'll get punished n it'll screw you up further. And it IS SAVAGE AND BRUTAL. Don't do it. Please GOSO n concentrate on healing urself.

[@hgtudor-theultra]

Logic.

[@forensicbadassprofiling]

@@hgtudor-theultra Thank you for your Tudor Treatment of logic!

[@howarddavies782]

Yes, the narcissist seeks to deflect attention from themselves onto you. If you do expose them against the better judgement of others who don't know any better, it is crucial to remain calm and collected perhaps even neutral. You must have the attitude that says well if you don't believe me it's fine. Otherwise if you become agitated or anxious because you feel that significant others don't believe you, this will allow the narcissist to say there you are I told you so there's something wrong with him. Stay strong and bail out sooner rather than later- you're the winner.

[@isabelolsson1890]

Thanks so much for the video.

[@Suzy585]

I'm a treacherous traitor!?!? 😆 It does have a nice ring to it.

[@theresefournier3269]

Since i have no desire to do such a thing, i shall skip on to the next one! Shalom

[@boymom9238]

I began to expose what he was doing to his sister and a friend while still with him. They “kinda” knew what he was. This caused his fury to bubble up, not actually ignite, but I could sense it simmering beneath the surface. However his facade was well intact and his smearing had begun a long time ago...unknown to me at the time. Even though I had plenty of evidence of his abuse and cheating... pictures, recordings, texts etc, when I was finally able to get my emotional thinking under control I decided it best to just exit. The evidence I had would’ve landed him in prison for a long time and being he had threatened to harm me, my kids and my family I decided it was not worth it to find out whether his threats were empty or not. It was easier to move on and let go of him and all those I had met through him and focus on my healing instead. I lost nothing. After listening to this and so much of HGs work I believe I was dealing with a greater narcissist....the description of the greater’s reaction in this video is almost exactly how my ex handled things

[@lilly7187]

thank you for all of these videos. i have sent them too so many people. THANK YOU

[@lehuananichai3947]

"Repeated and destructive permanent behavior." Life sentence of self hate. Shun as Done..... GOSO

[@edgreen8140]

Don't waste your energy. People are not listening to H. G. as we are so they are clueless even if you slowly spell it out. Its like people coming from homes with little or no boundaries and you ask do you know what enmeshment is. Usually they say no. I think these classes should be taught in high school.

[@marshacooper1735]

So very helpful! I pray that I stay on this path!

[@Miss-320]

I look forward to listening to the next video on the topic of exposure post escape.

[@variantways2704]

Yup...that way now the narcissists can join up with other narcissists..That way they can manipulate their way to a truly happy and fulfilling life! ... Who's laughing NOW?

[@braveheart2657]

Don’t be so sure! Now the narcissist has another person or persons to plot and plan destruction. This is dangerous and don’t think they will stop. Two or more narcissists together will fuel each other on getting revenge. Be careful. Peace and love.

[@carolinebartlett2647]

I am currently sueing two narcissists for defamation. They had my husband and myself expelled from a neighbourhood yacht club because I called out the Commodore who is narc 1. And it kept getting worse when Vice Commodore, narc 2 defamed me to my husband. Large case. I am a contagion empath with only 11% super according to you Mr. Tudor. The case started two years ago. I am just listening to this now, Jan 2024. It has been a terrible experience however the narcs are exposed.

[@dailydivinityoraclereading9080]

He knew he was having circular conversations that go no where and repel me??? Huh...

[@madisonimogen1028]

There is no need to engage the narcissistic people. Once you bring the attention to yourself and check in place that we differ; we have no values or same actions; we need to be aware of it. Everyone will bend and pick up free $$$ from the ground. Same goes for energy; errands; time; money; so if you have no idea how much you giving away for free it is only your fault and only you can change it. So have your voice and have your values and have your say to yourself and keep going but this time keep the energy for you. Do the errands for you and think with your head.

[@shelliemote7001]

Thank you, for this detailed knowledge, if used correctly it brings ln, an intellectual set of skills ✌️ which saves people many years of torment

[@thetopcat8946]

This is helping so much shalom to you

[@jackpetersen7545]

The Topcat,You are beautiful 🌹,Hope you are not with a narcissist!

[@angelnocharlie]

Fascinating. Well done HG Tudor much appreciated

[@jodyreasonFar-Que]

My 2 monsters are dead now. I need to deal with my sisters MONSTER. The worst monster i have met. Every hair on my body stood on end. Scary. I will get revenge, somehow

[@allaroundme5429]

Get proof

[@Kent-Eric]

H.G Tudor > When you devalue and discharge an intime primary source then you actually not discharge that person in your mind, it’s your mother you discharge due to failure to break free from your mother in very early life (up to 24 month old) and failure to create a healty self/ego. So when you realize that partner of yours will not give you that break you south for will fail then you start devaluate and later discharge her.

[@exquisiteb8984]

HG how did you know?!! I want to run to the blogs and blast my murderous Narc for who he really is! I know I would get paid good money for it to!

[@penelopehughes-jones5265]

Merry Christmas, HG! That was splendid and I particularly loved the twist on the mouse, ever so brilliant but then you are, aren't you?👏👏👏

[@heatherjackson8840]

you're FASCINATING! I have been entangled in a 3-year relationship with a narcissist. at first I thought I was an intimate secondary, but after listening to a few of your videos, I might not even have qualified as a dirty little secret. I knew manipulation was going on almost immediately in the relationship. actually, I've been aware of it and pointed it out to the narcissist himself along the way. of course he would deny all of my accusations, but based on what you say, I was most likely right with all of my suspicions. I think I've been painted black and put on the shelf for now, and am not sure how I want to proceed in this relationship. I find myself drawn to him even though we are completely incompatible on a daily life level. I can intellectually understand all of this is not healthy for me and that the patterns will keep repeating, yet I still feel unwilling to remove myself even when given the opportunity. at the moment I'm torn between wanting to expose him, wanting to hurt him, wanting to hate him, but also wantng to supply him the fuel he needs in a more open and honest way. would a narcissist ever consider putting away the abuse if an appliance wants to be a willing fuel supply? or is the abuse a necessary part of the fuel make-up?

[@vincentmangiafico]

I'm no expert but its unlikely a narc would allow you to have so much control. Maybe he's just abusive. Either one in unhealthy.

[@yehmen29]

The lengthy monologues... I sometimes joke that if my mother had paid me for all the hours I had to spend listening to her ranting and venting and her undending tirades, year after year after year, until I left home and went no contact (when she had my phone number she would call me and leave messages on the answerphone, filling it up, nobody else could leave a message and every day I would have to listen to 45 minutes or more of her tirades while hoping to get a message from a recruitment consultant; when she had my address, she would hand deliver letters several times a week, 100 pages or more in total every week), like she would have had to pay a psychotherapist, I would be a millionnaire and would not need to ever work for a living.

[@katwoman8595]

I lit him up (emotional thinking) on FB. I couldn’t stop myself. He still hoovered me. I thought he’d he learned his lesson, but he just was trying to keep control. He never fought against it. He knew I was right. He scurried away. I’m semi famous, so he knew he couldn’t have an effect or sway opinion

[@richellescott4308]

I had evidence and people mouths where wide open.He hates me now.

[@karenhackbarth1801]

He was so scary I just quietly left. Left most everything behind. I keep the future victims in my prayers. Trying to warn people only makes one look desperate. Better to let sleeping dogs lie and get as far away as possible. Karma is a bitch, he may not experience it in this life, and that's OK. He will in his next life.

[@nicholeflaherty6402]

In my case, the new victim is my own blood relative..and shes 20, hes 38. We are divorcing, and he got her pregnant before our divorce is finalized...he was extremely violent. Is there anything that can be done?

[@explorer0213]

@@nicholeflaherty6402 did you prosecute him if he uses violence against her tell her to prosecute him.

[@denisehorn8780]

The narcissist was passed off on me by another major narcissist; they trinangulated everyone. It was highly skillful; well organized, and ruthless. These are empty people who do "eat" what you have to offer with great glee, giving nothing back in return. Beware of the predator among you; listen to the truth with "safety." Thank you Tudor.

[@ak-47intelligence75]

I love the devaluation stage. That's when what they REALLY think of you comes out of their mouth. Get some pop corn and listen. Write it down, if you will. Once they devalue and discard you, they'll come back. After a few months or years. And when they do, ask them all the things they said to you during the devalue stage. Ask them why'd they come back to someone they've said was XYZ ? They'll be embarrassed and leave you alone . Some might give excuses and justify their words but give them enough rope to hang themselves 😆 It's fun fun fun.

[@andreawimer4334]

Lol.😁

[@aspetta8908]

Not my idea of "fun", but I very much appreciate your response. I do wonder whether these narcs 'paint themselves into a corner' through smear campaigns and devaluation, so can't circle back to hoover because 'how would it look to others?' (potential damage to the facade). But you have seen them come back anyway? Do they act like nothing ever happened? How would they explain to the other sources of fuel supply why they circle back? Pass the popcorn indeed; inquiring minds want to know!

[@KB-by3vl]

They circle back because they can. They come back because they want to know if things can be as good as they thought it could be when we were first "idolized". And that's a big issue. To idolize anything will be disastrous. When a narcissist shows back in your life, you can be pretty sure that their "followers" are confused. They will try to come to terms with it and, because they have been brainwashed, they will choose to see the narcissist as being an over caring individual that, as usual, needs saving.

[@KB-by3vl]

I think it's exhausting to narcissists to keep checking in on former "fuel sources". It seems like they must be worn down by it. Like they are mindlessly buying 'scratch off' lottery tickets, hopeful that one day a fortune will have been discovered in their back pocket 😅.

[@baldersn4474]

They don't all come back...

[@JennMartinello]

Mine does not deserve to be seen as a pillar of the community though he has a position as such! I used to be proud of him but now I'm utterly disgusted that he could put on such a facade to the rest of the world and at home be such a monster and yet make me cover for him so he can keep his future solid and I have nothing because it's all been destroyed. It angers me it disgusts me! I hate corruption especially in unions and places where most are regarded as Heroes when reality they are monsters when they're not at work. It makes me wonder if they get their fuel from their patients, and calls.

[@gellicbecca5191]

Thank youHG

[@edgreen8140]

Were probably to late because the smear may have occurred during lovebombing, just in case someone try to expose your public image as phony.

[@HH-gl4fk]

Yes. Justice! I want the world to know! and I have proof! I called shitflix and was actually interviewed for the show Love Fraud. In the end the facade won. I suffer the anger and fear and loneliness that never goes away. They are living high on the hog. I have lost everything. They are laughing and enjoying my demise and isolated existence.

[@Lisa-bk2wm]

Horrific and brilliant. GOSO

[@bubblebubble3069]

The narcissist is King in our sick society

[@trishk5686]

After disengagement, after learning about narcissists, I confronted him personally. He laughed and said wtf is that? Then researched and claimed he had asked around and nobody else believed it. He keeps bringing it up, and saying it really "traumatized him and scarred him for life." He went to therapy claiming he has asked to be evaluated for NPD. He claims he wants to know what is wrong with him regardless.

[@trishk5686]

Also, I did start to doubt bc nothing ever totally applies to his behaviors and even though we have been on and off since then and I told him I'm not convinced what he is but I want answers, and even apologized. He continues to bring it up. Seemingly very bothered by the thought that he could be such a thing.

[@susanegan-leary8606]

He’s a liar

[@carlogambino1979]

Devaluation stage is just horrendous. It's like trying to ice skate up a hill.

[@dwatcha7239]

8:25 well shit. Guess you have me figured out. It's so easy for me to see his good sides.

[@rareroseglosses1554]

I told him I was studying him and he blew up on me

[@Mira20153]

Brilliant!

[@franksullivan259]

I just when through a disengagement. This is the 3day of no contact. I have evidence she is writing prescriptions under her dead pin number . Her husband was an APRN who died in 2019. At her house I saw a box sent to her house under her dead husband name , I took a picture of it . I would have to do this in a few months.

[@No-Name-f8p]

After seven (7) years of No Contact, my Narcissist called me last month, like we just chatted yesterday! 😮 I said, “read the Bible story of what happened to Lott’s Wife. She looked back as they were escaping Sodom and Gomorrah and turned into a Pillar of Salt.” Not me, I don’t look or go back!

[@666happygirl2]

Well spoken HG TUDOR. OH BUT I DID TELL HIM. HE WAS NOT HAPPY I HAD FIGURED HIM OUT. I HAD BLOCKED ALL CONTACT. HE FOUND A WAY TO GET IN TOUCH. CHANGED MY NUMBER THIS TIME, NO SOCIAL MEDIAS. HE LIVES OUT OF STATE, AND VERY MARRIED. I SURE HOPE HE'S GONE FOR GOOD THIS TIME. FIND HIMSELF SOMETHING EALSE TO DO. HG TUDOR WHAT A SITUATION. PLEASE TELL ME HE'S MOVED ON. WE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER'S FRIENDS SINCE WE ARE IN DIFFERENT STATES, THANK GOODNESS. THANK YOU HD TUDOR

[@passion8princess261]

H.G Please post GOSO 2

[@angelagraves7288]

I want to thank you so much

[@buzzingbee9499]

My midrange must be really good because it took me 15 years to barely start figuring it out and I had referenced to a statement someone made of him in the past. ( He's manipulative) I never understand why he was so immature all those years and it was the discard that had me research and then I remembered that statement and there I found out. His new supply might never.

[@sararichardson737]

Scary