Extra Peeps: A Look at Peep Show's Bonus Material - Series 4

[@GodotOfficial]

Me when Andrew uploads yet another video about Peep Show: *Now THAT, is tickety-boo!*

[@MrRorySteel]

Andrew thinking what poor quote he never says that in the previous 6 series! Lacking continuity if you ask me.

[@lukecarroll9823]

Hnnngh

[@chilldude30]

my brain desperately tries to find a link between the little cutaway clips and the line directly preceding them

[@KrenzyHD]

I love these extras videos so much, series 4 really is the best series of the show

[@brandons5426]

It’s close between 3/4 they we’re definitely peak..it declined after that

[@acefire6422]

Nice vid. The Orgazoid episode scenes are great. The conversation about paedos while walking there sets up Marks clumsy paedo jokes at the party, and makes them make more sense. And the alt ending is deffo better than the actual ending, wish they’d gone with it.

[@mark9294]

I liked the original ending

[@chilldude30]

man that ending to the orgazoid episode is hilarious

[@davidz2562]

Jez is bi & loved frequently pulling Pej off, yet he doesn't like doing to the same to his idol the Orgazoid?!

[@max__pain]

@@davidz2562 Yeah but he *knows* Pej

[@davidz2562]

@@max__pain Jez & Joe do lot more very soon after meeting each other.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

Should have been in the episode instead of the Safari park bit

[@davidz2562]

@@jamesatkinsonja Why wouldn't that be a bonus for him? He's being well-paid to do something he enjoys.

[@Adam-fj9px]

I was born while dancing in the moonlight was on the radio... bit of trivia

[@jamesatkinsonja]

Really enjoyed this-it's a shame the extras are now on the decline but this analysis is really entertaining.

[@genghiskhanxxx5276]

I was so happy when I got the notification, a new Andrew peep show video makes my whole week

[@ClaraFinn]

So that's where that short clip of Sophie laughing in the series 4 intro comes from!

[@patrickmaxwell4097]

11:52 “We always cut to Malcolm in the Middle”…I think that’s a different show

[@mankytoes]

Yes? No? Maybe?

[@Howlingd0g]

@@mankytoes I don't know... can you repeat the question?

[@davidz2562]

There's snow on the ground around Sophie's parents' house.

[@mattuno9892]

Definitely the best season of Peep show !

[@davidz2562]

Yes, by far, whereas s8 is the least good.

[@gridlo]

Agreed. This is peak Peep.

[@gridlo]

@@ModMokkaMatti This just gets better and better.

[@shimry2304]

Everything's the best season according to you

[@jamesatkinsonja]

The commentary for 'Wedding' mentions that the writers considered getting Rachel Blanchard to return a 'coup' as she was unavailable for series 3 due to appearing in the infamous film 'Snake on a plane'! They also mentioned that they wanted Nancy in the series a bit more but she was only available for a short time-possibly explaining why Big Suze was used instead in early drafts and why Nancy didn't return after series 4.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

9:18 I remember them saying that was dropped because Matt King wasn't available for the location shooting for that episode-so this plot was effectively moved to Spin War with Jamie being replaced by Barney.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

10:35 That tallies as it does feel like a sketch. I wonder if ideas like 'Threeism' or 'Nether Zone' were on the back burner for a while before they were made as I could imagine doing an awkward dinner party with Sophie+ Jeff/ Johnson +Suze or being trapped in Elena's flat while Gail is there if they had being used in earlier episodes.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

5:42 Good Point. Probably the most confusing is series 9 being explicitly set 6 months after series 8 despite the 3 year gap in production. David Mitchell was actually 33 [as he was born in 1974] when series 4 was made.

[@vexingvexillologist7554]

18:03 Jez's Festive Half Dozen is probably a reference to John Peel's Festive 50, in which late radio DJ John Peel counted down his listener's top 50 songs of the year

[@RedLabs]

I swear I’ve watched these videos 8 times in their entirety lmao - loving it man

[@noka79]

These are great, thanks for making these, it's my favourite TV series ever

[@kvltgaming4122]

Arguably the peak of PS

[@davidz2562]

There's a consensus that s4 is the best.

[@basedchimera5859]

That turkey farm bit has Arizona leather shop vibes from its always sunny

[@Microtonal_Cats]

I love Peep Show so much that when I try to start a new show I end up stopping, and just watching good analysis of Peep Show.

[@dvdv8197]

YESSSSSS, I live for this extra content!! 🤩🤩

[@davidz2562]

Sally would be better for Mark than any of the other women he is ever involved with would be, except for Stephanie.

[@gridlo]

I think Cally, Jeremy's Manager, would have been good for Mark. And it's not like Mark blew it, he was framed.

[@basedbattledroid3507]

@@gridlo except for the Crystal Skulls thing

[@mattyman17]

Well there was Carol banana face

[@Jotari]

11:45 "We always cut to Malcolm in the Middle" Rather a strange thing for a DVD extra to insert scenes from another show!

[@davidz2562]

It's never stated where Sophie's parents' house is. The only clue is that going to Guildford is mentioned.

[@wagwanbennydj6003]

Great cometary Andrew as always 🔥❤

[@welshbolshevik]

babe wake up new andrew video

[@davidz2562]

The only way that s4 could have been better is if Toni, Michelle & Sarah were in it.

[@davidz2562]

@@rorz999 All I have is a strong interest in PS. Haven't you found anything that you're a real fan of?

[@jamesatkinsonja]

I'd have loved Toni to have returned at some point...

[@davidz2562]

Why does Mark's obsession with finding 'the one' intensify in s5?

[@comedy7536]

Probably his failed wedding

[@mankytoes]

Hasn't he pretty much been obsessed with Sophie the whole show up until that point? I think he's desperate to replace her, and due to low self esteem he's scared hell never find another woman, and be stuck with Jez forever.

[@davidz2562]

@@mankytoes Mark uses the term 'the one' far more often in s5.

[@comedy7536]

@@mankytoes He probably does end up alone going off the show's finale

[@ajhhc]

That joke about Venezuela is brilliant! ...and a little sad, all things considered. Good thing is that, in the end, Chavez foi para Cuba e MO-RREU.

[@Havok16]

Thumbnail says 3 mate.

[@danbrockettDOP]

Thanks Andrew. Once again, we derive benefit from your OCD! ;-)

[@jos9116]

and I’m high, obviously

[@timothyspool1399]

04:55 "...normally ME cut straight from the flat..."

[@lolnickfox]

Imagine Gunny went on the stag do? That would have been tickety boo

[@Will9719K]

Peak Peep Show series 4

[@danielbowman1965]

18:37 Could "take 100 mushrooms and go to a close relative's funeral" be a reference to Super Hans saying he dropped acid at his dad's funeral in series 5?

[@bmwofboganville456]

are Director Commentaries still recorded for movies or did this phenomenon peak with physical DVD media? I don't recall seeing commentary options on Netflix-type services.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

There pretty much blu-ray only these days if there done at all. Most DVD's have no extras, especially UK TV DVD's. You sometimes can get them on streaming services like Disney Plus

[@justinleslie1]

To be fair, I was describing myself as in my “late twenties” when I was 31.

[@k-leb4671]

As does every 30-32 year old.

[@brandonwholikesstuff]

i'm doing a project on adding every deleted scene back into the show for an extended version of peep show

[@ByddinRhyddidCymru]

Aphex twin, dr hook, toploader, say what you want about jez but he’s got great taste

[@Microtonal_Cats]

"The Orgazoid" is a MUCH better name than "Wormhole", so that was a happy accident.

[@Jotari]

Jeremy pissing himself is actually one of my least favorite moments of Peep Show.

[@Ap209nda]

Why?

[@Jotari]

@@Ap209nda It just doesn't provide any humor for me. All it is is cringy, uncomfortable and just unrealistic, not funny.

[@mcsquilliams7044]

HEALTH AND SAFTEY IS TRADITIONAL!, innit

[@davidz2562]

What's the best ep of s4? I find e5 Holiday to be, although every ep of s4 is excellent.

[@jacobtibbs2743]

I like Conference, it's brilliant. The Wedding is obviously great

[@davidz2562]

@@jacobtibbs2743 I'd struggle to put them in order because they're all excellent. If I were to choose the best 20 eps of PS, I'd include all eps of s4.

[@animatechap5176]

I think the thumbnail is incorrect?

[@axw]

A few errata, always a few errata

[@killianquinn4127]

Andrew are you planning on reviewing Mitchell and Webb’s new show BACK

[@flashheart2220]

Great video 👍🏼

[@MIKE-TYTHON]

Hey bro, you should do analysis on some other people just do nothing episodes x

[@axw]

I definitely plan to do more PJDN stuff in the future

[@jamesmills4850]

Hello Andrew. I was a long time fan of Peep Show since it began and I wondered that when you had watched this series if you had observed any odd visual artefacts on the screen during any of the episodes? I must have watched every episode multiple times but one Christmas three years ago I was amused to observe what looked to me like what I can only describe as green screen malfunction. I'm not aware of this show using green screen so my next thought was digital malfunction which might have caused this odd screen artefact. I won't go into any details on here for now but If you're interested to read more on what oddity I've found then I'd be happy to fill in the rest of the details. If you have discovered any odd screen artefacts then I'd really like to hear from you about them. Thanks.

[@axw]

I've pointed out a green screen error in the show before in one of my videos, from the episode Gregory's Beard.

[@jamesmills4850]

@Andrew Cool. As a long time fan of the show I was amused that until very recently I had no idea of its useage. Perhaps you haven't seen all the glitches present in the show? I'd recommend watching episode 'New Years Eve', which has a very interesting visual artefact. During the conversation at the flat doorway between Jeremy and the woman he likes, pay close attention to the eyes of the woman. You may have to slow it down to appreciate the full effect because it'll zip on by. It happens multiple times with her eyes during their short chat. I think you might enjoy it. Needless to say that it's best observed in hd and on a large screen. Cheers.

[@axw]

@@jamesmills4850 I just watched that conversation through a few times and slowed it down, and didn't see anything I'd say was a visual artefact, hmm. Are you referring to moments like the very start of the shot in which she says "I found out he slept with someone else", where her eyes seem to be off centre and then quickly move back into place? I think that just looks awkward because it cuts back to her mid eye-roll. Or was it something else?

[@jamesmills4850]

@Andrew The timestamps are: 2 mins 4sec, then 2 mins 28 sec, then 2 mins 30 to about 2 mins 41 sec to 2 mins 42 sec, then at around 2 mins 42 sec to 2 mins 46 sec. I observed this oddity while viewing the show on Netflix. Is this significant? I don't know? Sadly I don't have my Peep Show dvds anymore and so haven't been able to verify if the phenomenon occured on them too, but it was still there, visible in the actresses eyes, because I had revisited Netflix last month to show my brother this very weirdness. Happy hunting.

[@jamesmills4850]

@Andrew Hello Andrew. New Years Eve, episode 6 of season 7, If you can access Netflix then pause at 22:13 and 22:12 minutes left to go. Also pause at 22:00 and look at her pupils each time. Her pupils look odd throughout her closeups, but it's at timestamps 22:13, 22:12 and 22:00 that the weirdness is most striking. Anyway, I ought to have been clearer. Weird effects, uh? Cheers. Edit: from Seconds, to minutes.

[@supersonicmixes]

in the intro to Series 4 is the deleted scene of mark proposing to Sophie, I presume this was an editing mistake that wasn't noticed?

[@jamesatkinsonja]

Probably was a clip they wanted to use. They use a clip from 'The Man Show' in Series 7 for 'Jeremy's therapized' in series 8's intro for Gerard before changing it afterwards.

[@davidz2562]

What's your favourite M&W sketch?

[@axw]

The BBC bitesize parodies from Bruiser with Rob and Charlotte Hudson

[@mankytoes]

Heil Donitz is amazing

[@davidz2562]

@@mankytoes Cunnilingus - Behind the Scenes is hilarious!

[@doritos1802]

Sweet!!!

[@davidz2562]

Please review Back.

[@axw]

I did start once before but didn't get very far. I might rewatch the show and see how I feel about it again, but I've got rather a large list of things to watch or rewatch atm.

[@currybumjenkins5428]

There's so many M&W odds and ends reviewed on this channel yet nothing on the two series of Back. My guess is he hates it in that nonchalant, barely worth the effort way. It is extremely meh.

[@davidz2562]

@@currybumjenkins5428 It's nowhere near as good as PS, but it's significantly above average. S1 e4 is the best.

[@davidz2562]

PS has many one-off characters who should have been in it for longer. Dobby is the only character who is in PS for too long.

[@mankytoes]

She was great, they just developed her character badly. She was meant to be just as weird as Mark, just more secure about who she was. She ends up portrayed as really cool and desirable. I think she has more male interest in the end than Nancy, which is pretty bizarre.

[@davidz2562]

@@mankytoes How exactly is Dobby great? She's entertaining only in s5 e2, Spin War. In what way(s) is she desirable? She's well below average in looks, personality, dress sense, voice etc. The claim that she's ideal for Mark & very similar to him makes no sense - they have very different interests: she doesn't share his main interest, history, at all. She loves playing video games, but he only does when in her company, so he clearly doesn't enjoy doing so. Her having many fans makes no sense - what's her appeal?

[@mankytoes]

@@davidz2562 ​ Criticising her looks and dress sense are a bit weird mate, it's a comedy. Mark wears pretty boring clothes and Jez often dresses like a teenager, and no one criticises them for it. Like most British comedies, the cast look more like normal people, compared to a show like Friends, where everyone looks like a model. I wouldn't say she was ideal for him or that they were very similar, just that she was more on his level socially. He's constantly trying to fit in and seem more normal around most people, and he doesn't have to do that around her. I think the writers actually found this difficult- so much of the humour around Mark is about how uncomfortable he is, especially around women, so they had to make her "cooler" to get that dynamic back. She's just a funny, interesting character, at least initially.

[@davidz2562]

@@mankytoes Many Dobby fans say she's very attractive, so it's relevant to say that she isn't, and that several female characters in PS are. She doesn't look normal - she sticks out like a sore thumb by having by far the worst dress sense in PS. Mark has to try to fit in with Dobby as well, watching box sets of TV shows he dislikes & pretending he wants to go interrailing. She doesn't try to fit in with him. She's only funny, interesting & fun in Spin War. Why did she stay in PS for years?

[@mankytoes]

@@davidz2562 Well that's because attraction is subjective, surely you know that different people find others attractive? Honestly it's a little creepy, we're talking about a real person.

[@davidz2562]

Would Mark & Jez still be in the same flat together 6 y on?

[@Delvirus84]

Don't know but I'd love to see what they've been up to in that time

[@davidz2562]

@@Delvirus84 It'd also be interesting to know what happened to Toni, Michelle, Suze, Elena etc.

[@Delvirus84]

@@davidz2562 Agree!!

[@jamesatkinsonja]

@@davidz2562 Maybe they'll do a spin off book or something [like that Del Boy autobiography]

[@dvdv8197]

I'm guessing this is going to be deleted and re-uploaded with the correct thumbnail! 😀

[@Havok16]

You can just change a thumbnail, doesn't require the video to be reuploaded.

[@dvdv8197]

@@Havok16 aha! Thank you haha

[@dvdv8197]

And so it went 😅😂

[@brandons5426]

MORE ANDREW. PLEASEEEE.

[@axw]

Currently busy with things outside of KZbin, some of which are out of my control. More videos are coming, but they're just going to be a bit delayed

[@archive6094]

The church scene is probably my favourite moment in all of British comedy

[@leejones8582]

Are they any extras on the series 5 DVD?

[@jamesatkinsonja]

There are a few including the 'Sophie's Peep Show' with Olivia Colman's voice over but there on the decline [bar a brief one for the deleted scenes there are no more commentaries for a start].

[@gridlo]

I'd have loved new music from Jez, Hans and Jamie.

[@davidz2562]

They don't appear to have much talent.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

They pretty much moved that sub-plot to Spin war with Barney replacing Jamie.

[@davidz2562]

What prevents PS from gaining mainstream popularity? Other C4 sitcoms - including The Inbetweeners & Friday Night Dinner - gained mainstream popularity, so what's the obstacle for PS?

[@davidz2562]

@Éric Rohmer Most haven't heard of it. Unless I'm talking to people whom I know are aware of it I say "The sitcom Peep Show", so that they don't think I'm talking about actual peep shows. They're only iconic to fans, who are a very small minority of the population. No ep had close to 2 m viewers. It's nowhere near as well-known or popular as The Office. It's better-known & more popular than Detectorists & PJDN put together, but that's not saying much as both of those have tiny viewerships.

[@davidz2562]

@@jamesatkinsonja Yet it took 7 y for FND to become popular. Who do you hear quoting PS? Family, friends, neighbours, colleagues, strangers on the bus?

[@RenegadeShepard69]

Well where I live it will never get popular. Even The Office US and it's line of humor was a bit niche until the pandemia here, British TV doesn't ever capture viewers here. I doubt it will have that much luck in any anglophone nations too. Nowadays even more than in the mid 2000s people are not attracted to that kind of raw depiction of human flaws. Everything is too symbolic, viewers are not left with much nuance to empathize with undesirables (undesirable thoughts, actions, feelings, people) even less laugh at/with them. Could you see Mitchell and Webb type of men leading a popular series today? They are not that type. Peep show's legacy lives on through Succession which is the most American way that a few of the writing team from PS found out to make a show.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

Both Inbetweeners and Friday Night Dinner have some continuity but it's fairly minor and means you can start anywhere with it like a lot of 'classic' sitcoms. Peep Show in contrast is very narratively focused so it's hard to just watch a random episode on TV/Streaming from a later series without prior knowledge [it would be hard to watch a series 5 episode stand alone for example without seeing the wedding etc first]. Peep show is a lot darker than both Inbetweeners and Friday Night Dinner which keeps it's audience niche too [I love Nighty Night for example but that was never going to be a mainstream hit].

[@thomasjohnson8391]

Off screen Jeremy and Nancy probably got divorced cause she was kissing with super Hans and Jeremy stop being Jamie’s friend probably.

[@davidz2562]

PS eps should have been longer & there should have been more than 6 eps per series.

[@Owen-wc1wr]

Nope

[@davidz2562]

@@Owen-wc1wr Why? Some sitcoms have longer eps &/or more per series. The writing is good enough for there to be 8 eps of 35 m each rather than 6 of 25 m.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

@@davidz2562 Channel 4 didn't do 35 m [or 45m slots with breaks] at that time. Also the later series have enough trouble filling 6 episodes [hence why the had to bring in other writers].

[@thegeorgechannel7192]

At 10:12 isn't this man who played Victor in house of anubis

[@davidz2562]

S4 is the best; s8 the worst.

[@currybumjenkins5428]

S2 > S1 > Quantocking > S4 >>>>>> Everything else

[@davidz2562]

@@currybumjenkins5428 You rank s1 above s4?! Why?

[@currybumjenkins5428]

​@@davidz2562 Toni is a great character and features in S1 a lot. S4 doesn't really have a consistent character like that. It also has some serious believability pushes (especially in Gym, which is an episode I'm really not fond of). Also the inconsistencies on Jez's bisexuality in Handyman. Might be subjective on my part though as I watched the show when S2 first aired and subsequently watched the S1 Dvd a lot.

[@davidz2562]

@@currybumjenkins5428 What's unbelievable about Gym?

[@jamesatkinsonja]

What is inconsistent with the bisexuality in handyman? He idolizes Russell but doesn't love him so he's being pressurized into it. It's quite similar to Barney and Super Hans in 'Spin War' where Barney ends up broken.

[@davidz2562]

Sophie looks & seems nice in s1, but her personality & looks both decline severely throughout PS.

[@theMoporter]

Well, yeah. Mark didn't know her that well, so she was always putting on a bit of a front. It would be weird if she never dropped that façade. And, well, Mark and Jez tend to have that effect on people. I don't know what you mean about looks, though, she just...aged. That happens to most people.

[@davidz2562]

@@theMoporter Is she putting on a front to start with? She, Mark & Jeff are full-time colleagues, so that'd be difficult to do. Also, she's already with Jeff, and she's not attracted to Mark to start with, so there'd be little point. She ages more than her years.

[@mankytoes]

She has Mark acting as like life support machine, but actually sucking the life out of her. I agree she looks rough in later seasons, because she's portraying a miserable drunk. Olivia is still beautiful!

[@davidz2562]

@@mankytoes She's isn't justified in blaming Mark. She knows from early on what he's like. She marries him when she's already very dissatisfied with him. She chooses to become pregnant - not caring whether he, Jez of Jeff is the father. She chooses to drink heavily.

[@mankytoes]

@@davidz2562 That was a joke, it's a line from the series, when she's drunk in the toilet. Meanwhile her nephew was wanking off Hans.

[@big_slurp4603]

take a shot everytime you see a comment by David Z2

[@willhammond04]

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