Extreme Measures

[@annoyboyPictures]

One of the GREATEST Scenes of All time in MOVIE HISTORY.

[@RJ-hm6cz]

Name?

[@annoyboyPictures]

@@RJ-hm6cz The Movie name is "Extreme Measures"... can't you read?

[@StickFigureStudios]

Hackman's speech is great, but I wish they'd showed Grant's response.

[@josephsarto689]

You didn’t choose your wife or your granddaughter

[@THOMASINTHE1980S]

I understand his intentions were good, but his methods were bad.

[@montgomeryscott5657]

Spoiler alert ahead: In the final scene, Myrick's wife gives Dr. Luthan all of her husband's discs and documentation regarding his research and says to him, "I believe my husband was trying to do a good thing, but in the wrong way". Not only was Myrick violating medical ethical codes, but he had corrupt FBI agents who were in league with him plant cocaine in Luthan's apartment to discredit him. Honorable people don't do that. That goes to show he knows what he is doing is unethical.

[@ian.swift.31614]

@@montgomeryscott5657 your ethics are not Muslim ethics.

[@montgomeryscott5657]

@@ian.swift.31614 What’s your point?

[@ian.swift.31614]

@@montgomeryscott5657 What's yours? Your claims of what is ethical is not ethical to a majority of the world, boo. Wake up.

[@pardist]

I actually like the part where the commission questions him and the answer he gives them has me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@One-2-3-4]

Best movie ever!

[@AidanMclaren]

Reminds me of the Tuvix episode from Star Trek.

[@mikebasil4832]

Same. The presumption to enforce so-called lesser evils for the so-called greater good can be quite enraging. That’s why the greatest good is that there’s no such thing as a lesser evil. One victim of a blatant injustice is always too many.

[@laustcawz2089]

Anyone who wants to can recommend this film to be added to The National Film Registry.

[@louier4172]

You chose FOR them....

[@templarseries]

Gene Hackman justifying vivisection of animals, or anything deemed worthless objects to be exploited.

[@annoyboyPictures]

Its not as Easy and clear cut as that... This Scene Embodies the Entire Medical Ethics vs. Utilitarian Approach to Disease Treatment as well as Individual vs Society argument. See the part: 1:25 - Gene Hackman asks the Obvious question: "If you could Cure Cancer by Killing One Person, wouldn't you have to do that?"

[@montgomeryscott5657]

@@annoyboyPictures I think there is no comparison between killing one person to cure cancer and performing experiments on unwilling human subjects. Every one of the humans they operated on so far has died, so where do they draw the line? How many have to die before it actually works? What if the surgery never works? Dr. Myrick(Gene Hackman) takes the utilitarian viewpoint, while Dr. Luthan(Hugh Grant) takes the Kantian route. I agree with Luthan on this.

[@annoyboyPictures]

@@montgomeryscott5657 Cancer Kills Literally HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of people every year... a percentage of that are little children... If you could CURE that forever, what sacrifices are you willing to make? What is maybe a few Thousand deaths from 'unethical' medical experiments to CURE the WORLD of this disease? I find this dilemma even more so IRONIC in the light of today's COVID PANDEMIC where the Governments of the World are forcing everyone to take Experimental Vaccines... all in the name of the Survival of Humanity.

[@montgomeryscott5657]

@@annoyboyPictures In regards to curing cancer by killing one person, that depends on who that person is. If that person is a family member or friend, I’m putting my foot down. If it was a random person, maybe. Experimenting on human subjects who do not fully know what they’re signing up for is not the same thing. A couple of days ago, I watched this movie from beginning to end and I’ve seen the effects the experimental surgeries have on the subjects; death and disabled, or one or the other. The beginning of Extreme Measures shows two people escaping from the hospital where the whole thing is happening. Someone who escapes from something like that does not look like a willing participant. Your comment above is exactly the same reasoning that Dr. Myrick used to justify what he’s doing. In this case, the ends do not justify the means. And the results are not even the ones Dr. Myrick is hoping for. They’ve experimented on how many people and none of them survived. What if they never get the results they’re hoping for? What if they just keep experimenting on homeless people and they keep dying? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

[@montgomeryscott5657]

@@annoyboyPictures I am fully aware of the damage cancer causes. They’ve been working on a cure for cancer I’m sure for decades, but as far as I know, they never performed discordant medical experiments on human subjects.

[@montgomeryscott5657]

Suppose Myrick's experiments had been successful and his research was referenced in later studies, would it be ethical to use this information when he performed these surgeries on non-consenting subjects and most of them died as a result? That question is raised by human experimentation in Nazi Germany: what we know about hypothermia today we largely got from the Nazis studying hypothermia by submerging prisoners in ice water for extended periods of time.

[@laustcawz2089]

The Nazis also gave us audio-- & by extension, video--casettes.

[@cl759]

Either someone tells me what Guy did or upload the whole movie, I can't bear the suspense

[@thefivepoints]

He says maybe the homeless people experimented on are heroes but they didn't CHOOSE to be, Hackman chose for them and you can't do that cos you swore an oath as a Doctor and you're not God so i hope you go to prison.

[@downtakker]

He ended up accidently shooting the doctor after getting attacked from behind and the doctor dies, in the last scene the doctors wife gave Guy all the research they had in the hope he will find the cure the right way

[@cl759]

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[@RJ-hm6cz]

Movie name?

[@romaskincare9138]

Extreme Measures

[@toddlooney2878]

Extreme Measures midnyte10

[@juanitaortiz1455]

It’s not fear and inhumane to use ,captivave, torture animals for experiments too