I think you missed a fairly interesting combo with Dockside and Worthy Cause. If you can generate six treasures with Dockside, you can sac it to cast worthy cause with buyback, return it with Extus and cast it again, netting one mana. You can repeat the loop for infinite mana, cast Worthy cause to sac Extus and send him to CZ, then cast the sorcery a billion times for the win.
@solotopp3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the Exdus trigger when you cast, meaning you'd have to return a creature before Worthy Cause resolves? Sacing a creature isn't a cost to casting Worthy Cause. Maybe I'm wrong.
@r3dmanMIC3 жыл бұрын
@@solotopp Well, according to the Gatherer rules for Worthy Cause, saccing is part of the cost, so the dockside would be in the GY when Extus requires you to choose targets.
@ScorpioneOrzion3 жыл бұрын
@@solotopp Buyback {2} (You may pay an additional {2} as you cast this spell. If you do, put this card into your hand as it resolves.) As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice a creature. You gain life equal to the sacrificed creature's toughness. this is the text of Worthy Cause
@solotopp3 жыл бұрын
@@ScorpioneOrzion I read the actual card but it has been errated. Totally works.
@colemanholth37403 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree. I think there is an interesting BAD deck present here since Extus also has some synergy w/ Burnt Offering and Culling in the same way as the Worthy Cause combo, and the sorcery half can do some Breach tricks like Dargo (though not as easy to infinite).
@Flumpor3 жыл бұрын
I have built Extus as my second in person cEDH Deck (of course with a few proxies until Strixhaven hits ;)) There are a few more benefits that Extus has that I think are being overlooked. It has some unique lines as other people mentioned, talking Chain of Smog, Worthy Cause etc. but that is not what makes it a side-option to Tymna/Jeska. What does is that you are a premium user of "silence" type effects or rather Grand Abolisher or flamescroll celebrant. If the silence part gets countered, you just get it back from your graveyard again, and you can keep drawing the removal options for your combo turn. Mana can also be refilled in some way with Burnt offering and Infernal plunge. Your Comboturns have a surprisingly high amount of resilience through a few key interactions, also lets not forget how good Dualcaster Mage can be here. The other thing is that the backside does surprisingly well vs. Stax strategies. It is an efficient and strong beater and can seriously put the hurt on some people trying to stax/hatebear the board out because in the end its a 6/6 haste flier that has the sac ability and just has a giant clock attached to it. I won games in testing just because of how strong the demons are. They are 12 damage per swing. I am not arguing that this is better then tymna/jeska, but after testing extus I see them at the same level with both decks having very distinct benefits over each other.
@vatarants3 жыл бұрын
You can also Chain of Smog + Glinthorn Buccaneer/Brallin (or similar trigger abilities)with this guy.
@ScorpioneOrzion3 жыл бұрын
Reckless Fireweaver + bartered cow also works
@AQWuria93 жыл бұрын
Don’t you still need mana to discard with glinthorn?
@GoldenXPhoenix3 жыл бұрын
I think it's important to mention that extus do also enable some infinite kill options himself through like chain of smog + buccaneer and turns mill cards into searching. Specially some fun things you can do with dredge.
@kylejohnson46623 жыл бұрын
Xathrid Necromancer plus Maskwood nexus/Conspiracy will give you enough creatures to always cast awaken for [R][B]. You just need some way to make colored mana, and Pitiless Plunderer fits the bill perfectly. Plunderer will actually over produce on treasures for Awaken so you will also produce infinite mana. You can then hard cast Awaken an infinite number of times for the infinite 3/6’s that will kill everybody with their attack triggers.
@hirossxD Жыл бұрын
Hmm not bad idea of a game plan. You can use Sunblade samurai, of any landcycling creatures to ramp over and over.
@timmackinnon3 жыл бұрын
I had the same squee idea too. Discarding the same creature over and over to various self discard effects. I don't think its a powerful cedh strategy but it looks fun for casual. Also, there is a combo that may be worth mentioning with Chain of Smog, Glint Horn and a creature in your GY or hand.
@cedhtv3 жыл бұрын
Than chain smoge and Glint horn is a bit much in my opinion. But sure kinda decent 2 card combo as the commander isen't something you need to find you just have it.
@xaveir77873 жыл бұрын
Love the New Intro! ALSO - could you review the new u/r Urza Dragon? First card I've been super excited about since Jeweled Lotus. :)
@cedhtv3 жыл бұрын
The new Urza dragon is on the list.
@Brainstorm_brews3 жыл бұрын
Street wraith is also a really good card as you can cycle for 2 life. Bad in ad naus maybe
@Kakashinigami3 жыл бұрын
Free food = free treasures for my opponent when they play dockside
@cedhtv3 жыл бұрын
That is true. Something to think about. If you can't find anything cool thing to do with the food I don't think you should play it. But there should be some potential here.
@thedeadfool13 жыл бұрын
@@cedhtv juri (from CMR) and fling?
@joeprowlington88093 жыл бұрын
@@cedhtv The only thing I can think of is playing something like Trail of Crumbs, Savvy Hunter or Inspiring Statuary but they are all dead on their own. I would never want to draw them if I didn't have the Cow. Of these, Inspiring Statuary has the most promise tho
@westonmckee85923 жыл бұрын
One thing I find interesting about the sorcery side is the tokens deal damage when they attack so if u think about most games everyone will have at least one creature so u get 3 tokens swing 1 at each opponent and they are all taking 12 that’s a good bit of damage especially against a nause player. It’s not game winning but I feel like it’s relevant
@Pedrobp923 жыл бұрын
But you don't get a token for each opponent. The card says: each opponent sacrifices a creature. Create a 3/6 black and red avatar creature token with (...). It doesn't say anything about a token for each opponent or each sacrificed creature.
@westonmckee85923 жыл бұрын
@@Pedrobp92 Lol my bad I completely misread that now I’m really not that impressed with the card
@joeys7763 жыл бұрын
Makes Breach/Stitcher’s Supplier/Burnt Offering lines marginally better by cutting down the number of cards needed in the grave to exile for Escape, as you can bring Supplier back to hand off the Extus trigger each time.
@jakubbajza95833 жыл бұрын
I like Extus as a way to get back the stax/hate creatures that opponents remove
@shenpai46663 жыл бұрын
You mentioned Horror of the Broken lands as a cycle option but what about Street Wraith instead? The cost is 2 life instead of a single black so you could keep more mana up while drawing cards.
@cedhtv3 жыл бұрын
streat wraith should probobly also go inside that deck. Can have both. Eventually you might wanna keep your life.
@notabotm99233 жыл бұрын
What about burnt offering and living lightning, or culling the weak? They can infinitely loop each other with Extus, if you have a etb or Ltb damage outlet, that’s game.
@MasterDecoy1W3 жыл бұрын
Disclaimer: I'm not saying these are good, just trying to answer the questions. Uses for free food: Cauldron Familiar, Ghirapur Aether Grid, Goblin Welder/Engineer, Reckless Fireweaver, Idol of Oblivion, Clock of Omens, Grinding Station, Reprocess, Scrapyard Recombiner, Slobad, Throne of Geth, Keskit, Krark-Clan Ironworks, Kuldotha Forgemaster. Unfortunately, artifacts lack a clean, playable sac outlet like Viscera Seer, otherwise Mayhem Devil would also make this list.
@joshmusclow88193 жыл бұрын
If you decided to play the 2nd side of a moto faced card, I thought you had to pay the 2nd side cmc? Am I wrong? Thought that was the issue with the tibalt card? Please someone verify this please
@cedhtv3 жыл бұрын
yes if you wannan cast the 2side face you pay the second side face CMC cost.
@crovax13753 жыл бұрын
I'm just going to assume that this is an April fools joke and that Extus is *THE BEST COMPETITIVE COMMANDER option with UNLIMITED POWER!*
@winter9453 жыл бұрын
And you would assume wrong, not an april fools
@crovax13753 жыл бұрын
@@winter945 i just checked my calender and it's definitely April 1st. You just want to trick me and hog all of the sweet deck lists for yourself!
@cedhtv3 жыл бұрын
Getting scard I don't think I said that.
@nicolasalexanderlopezosori50153 жыл бұрын
Free Food > Goblin Welder & Goblin Engineer
@cedhtv3 жыл бұрын
ah there you go!!!!
@bastianrhone93903 жыл бұрын
Also also plumb the freaking forbidden board full of dudes they white plumb sac all your guys for each plumb copy draw 1 and get all your things back in your hand for all your sacrificed things back to your hand draw 1 for each
@soul69943 жыл бұрын
First
@cedhtv3 жыл бұрын
Gj Soul you have been first a few times now.
@soul69943 жыл бұрын
@@cedhtv YESSIR I kinda like how this commander functions