F-16 Mid-air - cockpit video

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Scott Jackson

Scott Jackson

14 жыл бұрын

F-16 out of Kunsan Air Base Korea has mid-air collison with USMC F-4 during a training mission over Yellow Sea in 1982.

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@sutleyar
@sutleyar 8 жыл бұрын
Jack H. was the F-16 pilot and a good friend. I picked him up at the hospital after he was released. He told me the story of this incident and talked about the things that he thought about prior to ejection. He talked about thinking about Becky, his wife, and their kids and how he wondered if he would ever see them again. He talked about thinking of the ejection process and the training he had received if he ever needed to eject. About the indications in the cockpit and his decision to abandon the aircraft. He went on for about thirty minutes describing his emotions and thoughts. Then he pulled the handle. When I finally saw this video in 1983 I was stunned by the sequence of events. The mind is a wondrous thing.
@torch39
@torch39 7 жыл бұрын
Could this be "Smiling Jack" we're talking about? Dave-194th FS
@MATTNMEMPHIS
@MATTNMEMPHIS 6 жыл бұрын
I have an uncle that was stationed Korea about that time, Rick D. call sign JABO. He was a F-16 pilot as well. I need to check with him and see if he was there when this happened. He later flew with the Marines in FA-18's in the exchange program attached to the USS America.
@jambooguy
@jambooguy 6 жыл бұрын
Scary situation to have to eject from a plane. Many pilots are injured during the ejection process and some are never able to fly again. Glad he remembered his training and was fortunate enough to escape injury.
@ragheadand420roll
@ragheadand420roll 6 жыл бұрын
Make sure to thank life support
@robertmillwee6409
@robertmillwee6409 5 жыл бұрын
@@ragheadand420roll you're welcome.
@1973Hog
@1973Hog 4 жыл бұрын
I had a close call with an F-15 attempting to shoot an AIM-9 head on while flying as an Aggressor at Decimomannu, IT (Sardinia) in the 1980s. The F-15 pilot was so fixated on trying to get a lock-on that he pressed the simulated attack until inside of 9,000 feet before pulling away slightly. At our closure rate of over 1,500 feet per second, it took about 5 seconds from the time he called Fox 2 and when he passed over me at what we estimated as less than 200 feet. I did not see him until he passed me, so I took no evasive maneuvers. After this incident, aircrews in USAFE were restricted from pressing a head on attack inside of 2 nm (12,000 feet) and were to immediately make a hard turn away from the target. I am a lucky man to still be here today.
@christianmaas8934
@christianmaas8934 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it a beautiful thing when regs don't have to be written in blood? Bless you Sir.
@FlyNavy2004
@FlyNavy2004 Жыл бұрын
Yawn!
@TheFlyingPancakeReal
@TheFlyingPancakeReal Жыл бұрын
Thanks to you, the military aviation world is safer. Regards from Italy
@datamasked8632
@datamasked8632 5 ай бұрын
Late 80’s by chance? Molino’s or Lorelei’s?
@TheSparrow320
@TheSparrow320 6 жыл бұрын
I was stationed at Kunsan AB when this happened and saw the F-4 in the hanger. It had a hole in the vertical stabilizer that you could through a basketball through, debris holes down the right side and the right wingtip was torn off at the hinge location. Great skill on the aircrew's part to bring it back safely. Thanks for posting this.
@OUTLAW-2024
@OUTLAW-2024 6 жыл бұрын
James Alvin that Phantom was sure a tough bird.. Glad everyone got through it safely.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Marine was aware of the extent of the damage. I didn't hear him declare an emergency.
@TheSolongsidekick
@TheSolongsidekick 5 жыл бұрын
+KutWrite (psssssssssssssssst! If they're training against each other they're probably not on the same radio frequency)
@canopy9244
@canopy9244 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSolongsidekick Although they won't announce everything over shared comms, they still need to have contact with each other. When Raccoon 2 called "Knock it off" he was saying that to the Marines. That way they wouldn't keep trying to fight while there was an emergency going on.
@ItsEricAZ
@ItsEricAZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@KutWrite The F-4 did IFE into Kunsan AB as it was missing his wing from the fold outwards. I saw it at EOR when it was surrounded by the fire dept and what seemed like all of the brass on base.
@soldat2501
@soldat2501 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent walk through with the subtitles.
@sicktrancetunes
@sicktrancetunes 4 жыл бұрын
'Player 2 was banned from the server, reason: jet ramming'
@KLRGT500KR
@KLRGT500KR 5 жыл бұрын
That flat spin was insane. Cannot imagine how a pilot feels if it is spinning that fast. As they say "eyeballs out G forces"
@knightlife98
@knightlife98 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr! I could not even try to imagine being in an aircraft, spinning that quickly...!?
@Power5
@Power5 4 жыл бұрын
plane was pilot-less at that point in the video.
@sh2939
@sh2939 4 жыл бұрын
I cant handle the Gs in an elevator
@Zerbey
@Zerbey 3 жыл бұрын
He'd have blacked out, good job he punched out long before that happened. Saved his own life.
@commandingnationsintl7792
@commandingnationsintl7792 3 жыл бұрын
That's why "Goose" didn't have a chance.
@Biggusdikusincontinentabuttoks
@Biggusdikusincontinentabuttoks Жыл бұрын
F4 is like a flying tank, still landed even after striking the f16, pretty amazing
@1stviper589
@1stviper589 5 жыл бұрын
OH CRAP, this really DID happen while I was there with the Wolfpack and I never thought there would be cockpit video of this. My understanding was that the F4 and F 16 collided and snapped the wing off our F-16 at the root where it joins the body. It created a shotgun effect blast of epoxy resin pieces (that the wing was made out of)and threw those pieces through the metal surfaces of that F4!! Thankfully the aircrews got back safe and that heavy metal F4 made it back leaking like crazy but the Marines pulled that thing in the hanger beside us and made noise for a couple of days and what came out of there was nothing short of billboard amazing. Those guys had cut apart every single aluminum can you can imagine from Coke Pepsi beer cans Etc flatten them out and pop riveted them over all the holes in the fuselage of that F4 and fix the leaks, pressure-tested things and they got that Beast back in the air it was absolutely amazing but it looked like this biggest flying ad ever!! Somewhere I have a picture of that amazing sight
@stoneyj50
@stoneyj50 5 жыл бұрын
Terry Duffield would love to see that picture. Please send to stoneyj50@yahoo
@kirkf4crewdawg604
@kirkf4crewdawg604 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, ABDR is a lot easier on F-4 than on F16s.
@klaasklapsigaar1081
@klaasklapsigaar1081 4 жыл бұрын
@@stoneyj50 Did u get the picture?
@eriktruchinskas3747
@eriktruchinskas3747 4 жыл бұрын
Wait they actually did that? Is it cause the f4 was old cause I couldn't imagine that being done on a newer jet
@NeutronSplitter
@NeutronSplitter 3 жыл бұрын
@@stoneyj50 Would like to know if you got that picture!
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 8 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you allow racoon to fly F-16's
@smeltedcheese
@smeltedcheese 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@PhilipReeder
@PhilipReeder 6 жыл бұрын
Best laugh of the day!!!
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 6 жыл бұрын
Coffee just blew through my nose. Thanks....!!!
@ericcabral5745
@ericcabral5745 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man the picture this painted in my mind made me feel like 3rd grader haha
@capdink
@capdink 5 жыл бұрын
🤣😂😂🤣😂😂😂
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 5 жыл бұрын
Phantoms could take some serious damage. At Moody we had two Dobbins F-4s land after a midair. The wingman struck leads left stab with his radome and many of the chunks went down the intakes. The pilot only had to shut down one J-79 and landed safely along with his lead. The radome was gone and the radar antenna blew back over the radar package like an umbrella in a hurricane. Many Phantom jocks were Nam vets (this was in the early 1980s, we evacuated in '75) and trained very hard. That's how I learned Phantoms could break engine mounts when over-G'ed and that the bay doors would safely support the engine until landing.
@kalashnikovdevil
@kalashnikovdevil Жыл бұрын
Holy shit! It could break it's own engine mounts!?
@L8nitedave
@L8nitedave 4 ай бұрын
@@kalashnikovdevil Yeah but just keep the door shut, it'll be fine.
@patrickeh696
@patrickeh696 4 жыл бұрын
The Lead Sled is like, "Was there a collision?"
@eatshit2863
@eatshit2863 4 жыл бұрын
WSO , "no , I just farted is all. Why did that guy over there eject ?"
@AviationFavorites
@AviationFavorites 14 жыл бұрын
Incredible stuff. Thanks for posting.
@saschakruger3576
@saschakruger3576 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that both Pilots havent been seriously injured.
@PappyStu
@PappyStu 14 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear the pilot was ok... I recall a couple training exersizes on subs that didn't go as planned as well...
@ItsEricAZ
@ItsEricAZ 10 жыл бұрын
I saw the F-4 as it finished it's emergency landing rollout. It pulled into the North EOR and shutdown with lots of emergency vehicles around it as it was leaking from the right wing where the outboard piece was missing from the hinge area. Later, I heard it had sliced through the F-16's belly tank and was found buried within the engine. It pancaked into mudflats just a few miles from the base.
@jambooguy
@jambooguy 6 жыл бұрын
Lol. Pilots who flew the F4 said it was proof that you can strap two huge engines to a brick and it would still fly. Apparently it was as tough as a brick, too.
@RB26N98KOUKI
@RB26N98KOUKI 12 жыл бұрын
Just followed your link from there and watched the Original..Thanks!
@cripplehawk
@cripplehawk 6 жыл бұрын
This had to be a rough year for the 8th tactical. In November that year Captain Harduval (Who many said to be one of the best US pilots at that time) was killed after his F-16A Block 15 malfunctioned (His widow sued General Dynamics for the defect of the airplane at the time).
@stoneyj50
@stoneyj50 6 жыл бұрын
cripplehawk I remember him. Met him briefly when i was stationed at Osan.
@alexlevy322
@alexlevy322 5 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder why the military didn't go with the F-20 TigerShark, a much better built, tactical, faster, reliable fighter jet.
@obfuscated3090
@obfuscated3090 5 жыл бұрын
Better built? I've worked T-38s and F-16s. The F-16 is a far superior fighter-attack platform. Build quality is the same. Sell your nonsense to someone who hasn't real life experience with those systems. F-20 was fundamentally a re-engined F-5 designed to sell to foreign governments we didn't trust with F-16 or F-15. Not being completely stupid they declined and bought 15s and 16s. Adding another airframe would have been a considerable logistics and support equipment and training hassle.
@Vooodoo101
@Vooodoo101 5 жыл бұрын
I hunt with a guy that was stationed there with Captain Harduval. Harduval took off, alone, in conditions that SOP is a no go alone. He took off into grey soup with absolutely no visual references outside. You sit with your shoulders above the canopy rails in a bubble. My friend says he was a mediocre pilot and got disoriented and flew it into the ground, straight down with the burners lit. He also said its not if you vertigo but when in the F-16. My friend is one of the original F-16 pilots. When he retired, he was right up there with most time in the F-16. In addition, I spoke with another hi time F-16 pilot who held exactly the same opinion. I fly fish with him.
@acidraindrops6657
@acidraindrops6657 5 жыл бұрын
@@Vooodoo101 do you also poop with him?
@Name-ps9fx
@Name-ps9fx 4 жыл бұрын
That collision would be like a 1957 Chevy sedan hitting a Smart Car™ at freeway speeds...The Chevy driver asks, “Did we just run over a squirrel?”
@bryanmanbeck9774
@bryanmanbeck9774 4 жыл бұрын
I think he ran over a raccoon 🤷‍♂️
@Alniemi
@Alniemi 4 жыл бұрын
I think the smart car would wreck the Chevy, old cars didn’t have such great geometry for taking impacts, I get your sentiment though
@gavcom4060
@gavcom4060 4 жыл бұрын
VZ_ 342 yeah I agree with what he said the smart car would probably be better off
@Agm1995gamer
@Agm1995gamer 4 жыл бұрын
I'd rather be in the smart car. The chevy is probably laying upside down in a ditch with the passengers speared by steel chassis parts.
@Name-ps9fx
@Name-ps9fx 4 жыл бұрын
Alaric Niemi Mass overrules geometry in a collision.
@ronaldli5
@ronaldli5 4 жыл бұрын
Feels bad to see how the machine tried to stay together unwavered and still worked in spite of the critical damage it sustained, recording all the video and audio that happened, even though itself was doomed, falling and spinning at unimaginable G's. Hats off to it.. RIP poor little aircraft.. Also how was the F4 basically unscathed (that it even landed fine) and took minimal damage at that force? That's insane.
@Ftheimpaler
@Ftheimpaler 4 жыл бұрын
Why? The machine doesn't give a fuck.
@DCrypt1
@DCrypt1 4 жыл бұрын
Thorekk fucking brutal, I have seen many of these guys on youtube. They show a strange interest in weapons of war when they aren’t watching cartoons. In this case he anthropomorphizes the Viper. Strange.
@thetab0179
@thetab0179 4 жыл бұрын
Since the people above me are fucking morons apparently and can't give a serious answer. A person in the comments who claims to have saw the aircraft in person since they worked on-base said that there was a hold in the vert. stabilizer that you could fit a basketball through, its not clear and I don't know for sure, but it I would take a guess that the F-16 just "scathed" the vert. stabilizer which must have dragged on the fuselage of the F-16 as it pulled away from the F4, which would explain how the F-16 pilot immediately know that the aircraft was on fire, by smoke or a fire in the cockpit. I'm not an expert, it's just my thoughts and limited observations. I don't know as much about aircraft as some people do, but that's the most helpful information I can think up. Have a great day!
@veltren8012
@veltren8012 4 жыл бұрын
The F-16 was recovered and fixed to where it was now back in the skies
@HowIsAsh
@HowIsAsh Жыл бұрын
@@DCrypt1 You can't have an interest in weapons of war? Thats oddly rich.
@Rob-vv5yn
@Rob-vv5yn 5 жыл бұрын
He decided his plane was toast and got out promptly which saved his life. To many pilots try to fly the plane there plenty of sad videos out there that show the results of not taking fast and decisive action.
@MScotty90
@MScotty90 4 жыл бұрын
Being on fire will definitely give you some motivation.
@HappyFlapps
@HappyFlapps 4 жыл бұрын
What is this guy's major malfunction? When that happens to me, I just respawn in a new jet.
@pillowsocket
@pillowsocket 4 жыл бұрын
He is role playing obviously
@clayz1
@clayz1 4 жыл бұрын
Boring.
@andyaim4764
@andyaim4764 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised the Phantom carried on flying... One tough old bird!!!
@Knightfang1
@Knightfang1 4 жыл бұрын
Much heavier bird, not surprised it faired better than the viper in the collision
@andyaim4764
@andyaim4764 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, they regularly came back from Ops with huge holes in them from a Sam hit in Vietnam!!! F16 is an amazing aircraft but can’t take a Sam hit.
@KjetilBalstad
@KjetilBalstad 4 жыл бұрын
If the F-16 had hit the F-4 fuselage it would most likely have died as well...
@bja2024
@bja2024 6 жыл бұрын
Not a stall warning. It was the landing gear warning horn. Varies by aircraft but usually below 10K with a sink rate and less than 200kts. Designed to keep you from landing gear up.
@bobasdfsdf
@bobasdfsdf 4 жыл бұрын
In the F-15 it's the unsafe landing tone. Generated by the ADC or ADP(E-model) if it detects a certain decent rate/airspeed etc w/gear up still. I think it's under 200kts and >2k ft/m decent rate.
@bja2024
@bja2024 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Mulvaney - 2000 foot per minute? It would not be very effective gear warning horn. If you are descending at 2K a minute in the pattern it is just about over gear or not.
@YaBoyFlaky5663
@YaBoyFlaky5663 14 күн бұрын
What timestamp?
@bja2024
@bja2024 14 күн бұрын
@@YaBoyFlaky5663 ??
@YaBoyFlaky5663
@YaBoyFlaky5663 14 күн бұрын
@@bja2024 nevermind
@SnowTiger45
@SnowTiger45 6 жыл бұрын
That plane had a dirty flat spin going on there. That would have been worse than the centrifuge because your weight would be throwing you to the dash rather than into the seat (I think ?). Either way, it would have been fatal. Excellent Video.
@zaidakbaralmuharram2984
@zaidakbaralmuharram2984 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, how do you recover from such stall?
@redondinhoful
@redondinhoful 5 жыл бұрын
@@zaidakbaralmuharram2984 You don't
@kitt7041
@kitt7041 5 жыл бұрын
@@redondinhoful Flat spins are recoverable. The F-16 even has a switch that gives the fbw more authority over the control surfaces to let you recover faster and easier. They had a floor of 26,000 feet, more than enough for a pilot to get the aircraft back. Of course, in this case, the flat spin wasn't the reason he ejected.
@JNelson_
@JNelson_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@kitt7041 Except the reason the FBW even let it go in to a flat spin is the F-16 was likely heavily damaged.
@kitt7041
@kitt7041 5 жыл бұрын
@@JNelson_ I'm pretty sure you can put an F-16 into a flat spin under normal circumstances. I think an F-18 will let you do it too. It also has a "spin mode" that increases the control surface authority which was a switch in the cockpit. It is now automated and the switch exists for maintenance purposes.
@SpaceAgeDiaper
@SpaceAgeDiaper 12 жыл бұрын
That is some scarey stuff, and some dizzining stuff as well
@toddsin8611
@toddsin8611 3 жыл бұрын
After 20 seconds of flat spin at 0 kn fas : “stall warning” Ya think? Thanks for nothing Betty 😑
@RaptorMaitre
@RaptorMaitre 2 жыл бұрын
She did call out the master alarm caution immediately.
@thebrain7441
@thebrain7441 5 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how he survived this.
@Knightfang1
@Knightfang1 4 жыл бұрын
He ejected seconds after the collision, most of this video is a pilotless plane falling in an uncontrolled spin
@timewithchaplainken3916
@timewithchaplainken3916 4 жыл бұрын
Stinking F4 jock probably said.."ground I think I hit a bird...no damage though..." Lol
@StoneCoolds
@StoneCoolds 4 жыл бұрын
Didnt knew war thunder pilots existed in real life lol
@Ystadcop
@Ystadcop 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Really glad the bloke was ok.
@cripplehawk
@cripplehawk 6 жыл бұрын
Were these F-16 guys from the 8th Tactical? (Wolfpack)
@stoneyj50
@stoneyj50 6 жыл бұрын
Roger that
@Abbeville_Kid
@Abbeville_Kid 4 жыл бұрын
35 TFS.
@sh2939
@sh2939 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a livefeed from the cockpit they recieve?
@ZeroSpawn
@ZeroSpawn 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, but they took the footage with a GoPro 17. They have to wait a few more years before they can download 24k footage on future Crystal Drives.
@dLimboStick
@dLimboStick 10 жыл бұрын
How'd they get the video? Did they fish the jet out of the ocean, or is that stuff transmitted and recorded remotely?
@ItsEricAZ
@ItsEricAZ 8 жыл бұрын
+dLimboStick They pulled the jet off of the mudflats about a week later and recovered the videotape that we are seeing.
@dLimboStick
@dLimboStick 8 жыл бұрын
+Eric Johnson I worked at Kunsan AB for about 3 months in 1993. I remember they had the best Mexican restaurant in Korea. :)
@User5260jo
@User5260jo 2 жыл бұрын
Truly appreciate your and your family's hard work, sacrifice, and bravery. FREEDOM IS NOT FREE. May we never squander it!🦅🇺🇸🙏❤
@30AndHatingIt
@30AndHatingIt 4 жыл бұрын
Man, they had digital HUD's in 1982?! Christ, I wasn't even born for 4 more years. And if you think about it, 1982 wasn't too long after Vietnam. We had so much tech coming out in the 80's... if the timeline for the Vietnam War had shifted maybe 5 or so years later, the Vietnamese would have instead fought the US military machine that went in and dominated the 4th largest standing army in Iraq. They better thank their lucky stars didn't have to face the 80's US military.
@frankeinfish
@frankeinfish 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean by digital HUD but that's the same kind of HUD as was used in the 60's. Only difference is that the more modern you get the more stuff is shown in the HUD. The only thing I've heard called a digital HUD is when it can display different colours, which the early F-16's certainly didn't..
@30AndHatingIt
@30AndHatingIt 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankeinfish By the digital HUD, I mean the computer displayed information that is shown on the screen. Computers started coming into their own in the 1980's... the only flight tech I'm aware of in the 60's was the Apollo Guidance Computer... and that was essentially fixed numbers on a panel display. I've never seen any footage from the Vietnam War where you can see computer generated numbers and information on the screen in the pilot's forward field of vision. Got any links to videos or websites? I'd love to see some stuff I haven't seen before, I'm a bit of a book hound too.
@bartonkj
@bartonkj 4 жыл бұрын
30 And Hating It - HUD technology started with reflector sites in the 1930s: the only information displayed at that time was an aiming reticle that took into account how much you needed to lead your target. They added additional pieces of information over the years from there....
@expert_fretwork
@expert_fretwork 4 жыл бұрын
​@@30AndHatingIt I'm assuming you take for granted that an F-14 Tomcat had a HUD in it, since Top Gun was such a popular film. That plane was first flown in 1970, 16 years before you were born, and it had a pretty sophisticated HUD.
@30AndHatingIt
@30AndHatingIt 4 жыл бұрын
@@bartonkj I have seen the reflector sites in some German WW2 aircraft, but my earliest recollection of seeing something moderately sophisticated were the sights in the F-86's in Korea. But these were analog computers... the display in the above video is of a digital nature, and while I absolutely acknowledge it's existence in the time frame outlined in the video, I don't recall seeing anything like it prior to the 80's. I've started researching to see what I can find.
@orellaminx3530
@orellaminx3530 6 жыл бұрын
2:38 Go home computer, you're drunk. Does footage exist from the other plane's PoV?
@christianitis
@christianitis 4 жыл бұрын
It went into a flat spin after it lost its pilot and stalled, which is why it was spinning so fast.
@pete_mitchell
@pete_mitchell 3 жыл бұрын
@@christianitis Yes, and the question was about the other plane...
@matthewdaub
@matthewdaub Жыл бұрын
How was it "partially" damaged by impact. It feel straight down from the sky!?
@eriktruchinskas3747
@eriktruchinskas3747 4 жыл бұрын
So what part of each plane hit and was damaged?
@Power5
@Power5 4 жыл бұрын
Every part of the F16 was damaged. F4 lost a wing tip and some stabilizer damage. Sounds like the F4 sliced into the bottom of the F16 probably damaging the engine which caused the fire.
@jamielancaster01
@jamielancaster01 5 жыл бұрын
Raccoon? Everyone knows that beavers are better pilots!
@Jabba1625
@Jabba1625 4 жыл бұрын
Then there's ferrets 😄
@ItsEricAZ
@ItsEricAZ 8 жыл бұрын
This is what the F-16 looked like after it crashed on the mudflats during it's recovery... www.f-16.net/g3/f-16-photos/album30/81-0724
@KjetilBalstad
@KjetilBalstad 4 жыл бұрын
"It is easy to tell where the F-4 sliced through" Uh, I can't tell. Hell, if not for the jet engine nozzle, and on closer inspection missile pylon, I would not have been able to tell what this wreckage even was. :o
@cvbabc
@cvbabc 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that collision saved the Phantom driver's life. They had a good lock on him. Phew...
@ammodude12
@ammodude12 3 жыл бұрын
I am surprise the video was still operational after ejecting. I inspected egress items in the Air Force and though the cockpit would be destroyed during the ejection sequence.
@eriktruchinskas3747
@eriktruchinskas3747 4 жыл бұрын
So does anyone have a good idea of what exactly happened? It looks like the f16 pilot tried to pitch up and roll or was that just the plane hitting the f4 and tumbling? If the f16 pilot tried to pitch up did the f4 pilot do that to, or did the f16 just not clear it in time
@JackB_Music
@JackB_Music 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like both raccoons were late tally, both calling bogeydope. If they were assigned red and blue sanctuaries (to maintain until tally) then they potentially broke them before the bandit called tally and both raccoons called tally. The nautical mile readout showed 1nm /6000ft rapidly decreasing as lead took the fox 2 shot then broke up to avoid collision but collided with the wing of the phantom I believe. Normal procedure is to break out/right well before 1.5nm (or not across flight paths) to preserve a safe bubble but it looks like both jets went up maybe together and collided.
@FAA-DPE
@FAA-DPE 4 жыл бұрын
The moral of this story is the F-4 Phantom was the better aircraft,we should've kept making them. Tough like P47 Thunderbolts and B-17's And oh yeah Mark my word, we should be cranking out new A-10's right now by the thousands. One day you'll see why.
@mrmike1183
@mrmike1183 4 жыл бұрын
Ripcord why the F-4 when the F-14 with Phoenix missiles is better
@Mikelaw709
@Mikelaw709 4 жыл бұрын
How the hell did they recover the tape? Thats awesome
@jessemess7598
@jessemess7598 3 жыл бұрын
I always wonder that also
@Dakahrii
@Dakahrii 3 жыл бұрын
Black box
@ItsEricAZ
@ItsEricAZ Жыл бұрын
The F-16 landed upside down in mud flats about 10 miles from Kunsan AB. The fuselage where the video recorder was manage to stay mostly intact. I don't know how badly the video cassette was damaged. I suspect they had to get some mud and salt water off of the tape and install it into a new cassette to watch it.
@matthewgibbs6886
@matthewgibbs6886 Жыл бұрын
f4 dont need no stinking missiles
@Saltee323
@Saltee323 6 жыл бұрын
So...I guess the Marine F-4 gets the win right? Who says an F-4 can't defeat an F-16?
@mdobson3869
@mdobson3869 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew McKay technically yes the f4 gets the kill and it just proves that the 60s era jets were better built than the newer jet's but in a 1v1 fight the f16 wins hands down
@rildain76
@rildain76 5 жыл бұрын
M Dobson, technically, this was a 1v1 fight.
@RightCenterBack321
@RightCenterBack321 5 жыл бұрын
The F-4 won by using itself as the missile!
@thegreatgatsby8180
@thegreatgatsby8180 5 жыл бұрын
Even a Soviet era mig 21 bison Indian pilot shot down a Pakistani f16 jet.
@shaffanjaffer4106
@shaffanjaffer4106 5 жыл бұрын
@@thegreatgatsby8180 you may want to recheck that information
@Lundamyrstrollet
@Lundamyrstrollet 4 жыл бұрын
Don't mess with a Phantom.
@jeffreylindsey1757
@jeffreylindsey1757 4 жыл бұрын
Lived to fly another day! Or just plain live. Glad he had the opportunity to eject and the F-4 got back to the airbase safely. Could of been much worse. That's kinda like a Totota Camry running into a 70's model Chevy Impala.
@heathfitzgerald363
@heathfitzgerald363 3 жыл бұрын
Scary situation, I'm glad I never had to eject from my F-16. You can bet he was thinking about his family before ejecting. Just shows you that anything can happen in the blink of an eye.
@phillipsimmons5
@phillipsimmons5 3 жыл бұрын
Are you still flying F-16s?
@heathfitzgerald363
@heathfitzgerald363 3 жыл бұрын
Phillip Simmons not any more as of almost 6 years ago. I had a bad boating accident while I was on a fishing trip. With all of the back pain force me to not fly anymore unfortunately
@phillipsimmons5
@phillipsimmons5 3 жыл бұрын
@@heathfitzgerald363 Thank you for your service.
@17avggamer54
@17avggamer54 10 жыл бұрын
so both dudes!! act of god
@SuperScopeDog
@SuperScopeDog 4 жыл бұрын
3, f-4 is a two-seater.
@Myname-il9vd
@Myname-il9vd 3 жыл бұрын
ive done this in vr more times than im willing to admit, yeah i know they're going fast but they're going so fast
@shawnmartin2131
@shawnmartin2131 4 жыл бұрын
This where Rocket learned to fly before he became a Guardian?
@charleyzimmer2505
@charleyzimmer2505 4 жыл бұрын
Seems the F-16 is like the P-51, agile but fragile.
@SlackTideWanderer1810
@SlackTideWanderer1810 5 жыл бұрын
Raccoons shouldn't being flying military jets
@joeytroutman9506
@joeytroutman9506 4 жыл бұрын
I'm stupid here. Were they side by side and hit or what?
@no-won
@no-won 4 жыл бұрын
Joey Troutman they hit headed on
@SpankerPoligoli
@SpankerPoligoli 11 жыл бұрын
After this accident, F 16 pilot was drinking beer in that night in the bar.
@Tom_Lynx_98626
@Tom_Lynx_98626 4 жыл бұрын
F-4s are flying tanks ... the only plane tougher is a Warthog
@kenclark9888
@kenclark9888 6 жыл бұрын
The fact that the aircraft was going straight down would not indicate a zero airspeed condition. It may have been damaged in the collision.
@bobbertee5945
@bobbertee5945 5 жыл бұрын
It was in a flat spin.....
@allgood6760
@allgood6760 3 жыл бұрын
Far out!
@eldridgefelder3427
@eldridgefelder3427 4 жыл бұрын
So, what happened to the F-4 pilot? Nothing said about him. Did he crash? RTB? Ejected? Survive? Was he still ready for the training mission, wondering what all the fuss over the radio was about?
@stoneyj50
@stoneyj50 4 жыл бұрын
They landed safely at Kunsan AB. Fixed the damage with duct tape and some minor sheet work and flew plane back to their home base.
@patrickeh696
@patrickeh696 4 жыл бұрын
Eldridge, He was flying an F-4. What else do you need to know?
@Mpampouinos13
@Mpampouinos13 11 жыл бұрын
Yes... He had locked him with his radar. Also it means (Big X) that if you shoot a missile it will be missed.
@u2em
@u2em 4 жыл бұрын
defending korea looks so hard
@silverdrillpickle7596
@silverdrillpickle7596 4 жыл бұрын
How much did that cost us?
@Hasan_OZ
@Hasan_OZ 4 жыл бұрын
Couple of ten million dollars
@tonyc.4392
@tonyc.4392 4 жыл бұрын
BANNED (30 Mins) - Reason: RAMMING
@ericfermin8347
@ericfermin8347 3 жыл бұрын
Why all the yelling? Aren't these professionals? Jeeshh
@keegan773
@keegan773 12 жыл бұрын
They don't build them like they used to. F4 rocks.
@Doones51
@Doones51 6 жыл бұрын
i'd much rather be driving an F-16
@WimsicleStranger
@WimsicleStranger 6 жыл бұрын
keegan773 not as great as the F-35, tho
@lordofthewoods
@lordofthewoods 6 жыл бұрын
@ keegan: We've had F-4s low and fast over the house as recently as a year ago. No mistaking it : )
@haijin7484
@haijin7484 5 жыл бұрын
If that was an F-15 that F-4 would’ve shit it’s pants.
@SHARPGFX-dc9gj
@SHARPGFX-dc9gj 4 жыл бұрын
F 16 planes are the best.
@mfmees
@mfmees 3 жыл бұрын
me in DCS:
@michaeljacobs7724
@michaeljacobs7724 4 жыл бұрын
That plane was in a deep stall long before the Stall warning came on. fluttering like a butterfly but falling like a rock, Welcome to the Martin Baker Fan Club.
@viperdriver82
@viperdriver82 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to the F-4 crew ??
@phillipsimmons5
@phillipsimmons5 3 жыл бұрын
They landed safely the F4 went right thru the F-16 like a Tank.
@viperdriver82
@viperdriver82 3 жыл бұрын
@@phillipsimmons5 ok good show ....dam it man poor F-16
@CenobiteBeldar
@CenobiteBeldar 5 жыл бұрын
Who was at fault? Is this just something you can't prevent while flying during war time? Was somebody not paying attention?
@expert_fretwork
@expert_fretwork 4 жыл бұрын
The closure rate on the two jets was over 1000 knots. That's more than 1150 mph. They were simulating a dogfight, it's a common training tactic. They just didn't see each other fast enough most likely, given the speed at which they came together.
@robertsartino6610
@robertsartino6610 4 жыл бұрын
FALCON 4 BMS!!!
@DessertUnicorn
@DessertUnicorn 8 жыл бұрын
how the fuck, out of all the air particles he had to hit the ones on the other F-16..........
@DessertUnicorn
@DessertUnicorn 8 жыл бұрын
sorry correction *another F-4
@robertchance6123
@robertchance6123 4 жыл бұрын
G&R
@samuellayden1308
@samuellayden1308 7 жыл бұрын
That is Grandy my Grandpa
@bwacuff169
@bwacuff169 4 жыл бұрын
phan·tom /ˈfan(t)əm/ noun noun: phantom; plural noun: phantoms a ghost. a figment of the imagination. Seems like a lot of damage for a figment of the imagination.
@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou 5 жыл бұрын
God, that constant wavering tone is sickening. Scary shite!
@gorantotic2516
@gorantotic2516 4 жыл бұрын
Drago mi je...
@gorantotic2516
@gorantotic2516 4 жыл бұрын
Vi ne idete dole, vec ste se usrali od straha, i vi pilot moj kurac...
@gorantotic2516
@gorantotic2516 4 жыл бұрын
800 km.... Brzina....
@grgbmd5420
@grgbmd5420 4 жыл бұрын
I would have shit my pants
@fixedguitar47
@fixedguitar47 4 жыл бұрын
Who do we send the bill to?
@maggot3134
@maggot3134 4 жыл бұрын
Did the missile hit the jet and took it down?
@phillipsimmons5
@phillipsimmons5 4 жыл бұрын
The F-4 jet hit the F-16 head on.
@mistiebluern
@mistiebluern Жыл бұрын
I didn't see the impact.
@carlosmurphy4u1
@carlosmurphy4u1 4 жыл бұрын
I guess the camera was made by the lowest bidder?
@marcoscastro8361
@marcoscastro8361 3 жыл бұрын
Angel's 2 4 12 what it that
@wyunaboy
@wyunaboy 4 жыл бұрын
F4 build like a tank...i wonder what happen with F35...the newer the aircraft the more fragile they get.
@abandonedlife9416
@abandonedlife9416 4 жыл бұрын
Weaker structurally maybe, but much smaller radar signature, faster, and more maneuverable. Everything has a price.
@Eyeofnelms
@Eyeofnelms 3 жыл бұрын
The F-35 probably would have caught fire and ignited the jet fuel in the F-4.
@detaildon
@detaildon 4 жыл бұрын
Knock it off doesn't mean end the training. It means emergency radio transmissions only.
@andyowens5494
@andyowens5494 4 жыл бұрын
detaildon Err... where did you get that definition from? It means stop whatever it is you are doing, generally for safety reasons. If engaged in BFM, stop the manoeuvre. Starting an engine that develops a fuel leak, cut the engine. Where the situation is safety critical, all personnel would naturally avoid any radio comms not directly relevant to the incident (assuming they have been properly trained and are applying that training) so that important communications get through - your statement is a consequence of the events, not the meaning of the call. Folks wouldn’t carry on high-energy manoeuvres and just stop radio calls, thats a recipe for an even bigger catastrophe; it all stops on that call, and folks role-call their acknowledgements (so everyone knows whos still in the airspace) and immediately begin deconfliction (so no-one else gets involved, allowing all resources to focus on the critical elements of the rescue/recovery of the original participants).
@nasigoreng553
@nasigoreng553 3 жыл бұрын
hehehe player 2
@paulaglet4255
@paulaglet4255 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand, why they are yelling so loud?
@aboriani
@aboriani 4 жыл бұрын
smh...
@no-won
@no-won 4 жыл бұрын
Smh 😔 I'll never understand how some people have an extremely serious lack in basic reasoning and comprehension skills.
@paulaglet4255
@paulaglet4255 4 жыл бұрын
@@no-won Or others' inability to recognize or understand sarcasm.
@isamu1718
@isamu1718 4 жыл бұрын
All of those claver comments.. You should be ashamed of your yourselves. It seems you dont know how much it takes to reach a fighter pilot's position.. its not like driving your slow and boring car and for sure they put theirs lives for the sake of the country, something that you people will never do because you are selfish
@faithfamilyandcountry7452
@faithfamilyandcountry7452 4 жыл бұрын
Wait! 2 American made F-16 flown by Koreans engaged 2 American F-4 Phantoms flown by US Marines. Sounds like a comedy to me.
@expert_fretwork
@expert_fretwork 4 жыл бұрын
No. It was 2 American Air Force pilots in a training dogfight against 2 Marine F-4s. The video was from the F-16's perspective.
@Power5
@Power5 4 жыл бұрын
The F16s were stationed at a Korean Airbase. Everyone was american involved though.
@Radionut
@Radionut 6 жыл бұрын
They can spend 20 million billion dollars on an airplane but can’t buy a $100 camera to film the stuff with. Filmed with a potato. Wow intensely exciting I’m glad the guy got out
@F1CT1C10U5
@F1CT1C10U5 6 жыл бұрын
You realize that this happened in 1982, right? :D
@TheSparrow320
@TheSparrow320 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! You do have to remember this is from 1982 and the camera cassette was tape much like the old beta style. GoPro was still a generation away.
@WimsicleStranger
@WimsicleStranger 6 жыл бұрын
Stupid fuckface
@Radionut
@Radionut 6 жыл бұрын
WimsicleStranger Nice language sir
@Radionut
@Radionut 6 жыл бұрын
F1CT1C10U5 I don’t care when it was filmed. Surely they were better cameras available than the one they used
@mango7862
@mango7862 4 жыл бұрын
Yankees ...
@kuiper921
@kuiper921 3 жыл бұрын
What
@dr.gmansaturng5228
@dr.gmansaturng5228 6 жыл бұрын
Voice of the lady comes on, Warning, warning ! Autopilot isn't going kick in and fly it back to base and land ? He takes on heat Seeker and pitches up right into the Phantom so he never saw him ? That's a Phantom for you !
@oppotato5440
@oppotato5440 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. G Man Saturn G the f16 doesn’t have a return to base and land autopilot also the plane was missing a wing
@glevideo
@glevideo 4 жыл бұрын
Multi-Million dollar jets and they produce horrible quality video that's hardly watchable.
@no-won
@no-won 4 жыл бұрын
It's purposefully downgraded before it gets released
@penggrin
@penggrin 2 жыл бұрын
@@no-won and also "1982"
@copkhan007
@copkhan007 4 жыл бұрын
This is indian pilot Abhinandan when he was shot down by Pakistan's F-16.....Abhinandan saying to himself, " I hope the Tea is Fantastic".
@smaze1782
@smaze1782 5 жыл бұрын
Couple of hot dog jet jocks doing what they do best. They don't own those planes, the taxpayers do!!!
@pradeepsahoo7243
@pradeepsahoo7243 4 жыл бұрын
So, this is how the Pakistani F-16 pilot felt when he was downed by a Mig-21 on 28th February 2019 and then got beaten to death by their own people. 🤣
@beepIL
@beepIL 6 жыл бұрын
LOL whats with the panic? you are still alive and able to eject... MAYDAY!! MAYDAY!!!! not an expected behavior from a combat pilot, keep calm and handle the situation
@Cg23sailor
@Cg23sailor 6 жыл бұрын
Says an armchair wannabe who has never been in that situation.
@beepIL
@beepIL 6 жыл бұрын
I would have the facial expression of your avatar probably, but i would not be screaming over the radio, i would simply eject. also, it wasn't a missile, it was a training exercise and they had a collision, given that this is not even a war zone, it is even more reason to remain calm.
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 6 жыл бұрын
beepIL - being able to eject or surviving the ejection or landing itself is not a given...
@CallsignJoNay
@CallsignJoNay 6 жыл бұрын
This has got to be one of the stupidest comments I've ever seen in the history of KZbin. Well done, sir. Also it's SOP to declare mayday on eject.
@phapnui
@phapnui 6 жыл бұрын
Forgot a mayday. I have heard pilots in a lot worse situation and remained calm. Like one facing certain death and simply and calmly saying "Oh, shit". but none of us know how we would react until actually faced with the situation. Some poop their pants. And that can be a good thing if you take internal injuries.
@samuellayden1308
@samuellayden1308 7 жыл бұрын
That is Grandy my Grandpa
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