F-35C Squadron vs *NEW* J-35 Gyrfalcon Squadron (5th Gen Naval Battle 107) | DCS

With the introduction of China's 5th Gen Stealth J-35 Gyrfalcon aircraft into DCS we ask if a squadron of J-35 Gyrfalcon could beat a squadron of USN F-35C Lightning II.
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0:00 Overview
0:55 Aircraft Details
3:54 Missile Details
4:05 Drag Race
5:06 Scenario Details
6:42 Predictions
7:40 Battle
21:11 Human vs Human Dogfights
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[@forzaelite1248]

Just a quick note, I know the F-35C on wiki says 40,000 but the engine variant proposed was never used, i.e. both the A and C use the 43,000lbs thrust engine as per Pratt and Whitney's website. You might wish to update the flight model although it won't make too much of a difference

[@carlosdiazjr]

You beat me to it... I was just going to say the F-35 thrust was set too low. The F-135 engine has 28,000 lb thrust dry and 43,000 lb thrust in afterburner... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_F135

[@grimreapers]

Thanks for this, will jump it up a bit.

[@anonymus2995]

38,00lb dry@@carlosdiazjr

[@ShootBlueHelmets]

​@anonymus2995 so, you've met my ex?

[@smilemore1997]

​@@ShootBlueHelmetsI have. Unfortunately..

[@Doc_Roe]

"Get out man! You'll burn! " Put that on a GR Hoodie. We need a shirt with all of CAP's best lines

[@lord-REDACTED-]

I still have a place in my heart for "bless your cotton socks"

[@Orieni]

Do a thing!

[@lord-REDACTED-]

Meet you bois in the middle. How about a shirt with the GR logo, with a random smattering of Super Cap saying!

[@dexlab7539]

I’d buy that 😂

[@Doc_Roe]

All these ideas are awesome

[@v3c7r0n]

"Mom, can we get an F-35C?" "No, we have an F-35C at home" The J-35 seems to be the F-35C we have at home, it just isn't the same. I know the flight model likely still needs some tuning and tweaking, but you guys always do a great job with these battles - if nothing else they're always fun to watch

[@gtifighter]

9:10 the main reason why Germany is buying them (F-35's) is to replace the aged Panavia Tornado (I believe from the 70's) with a platform that can also carry US Nukes that we have through the NATO Nuclear Sharing Programme.

[@mk6315]

Tornado is a sexy machine

[@martianvideo]

@@mk6315 Wish BAC TSR-2 line had happened though

[@iamscoutstfu]

I honestly doubt that. The F35's strength in making every other platform of the allied military better is probably the main reason. It's why everyone else buys them.

[@simonwoess5679]

Nice Now we really need an improved 2020s carrier strike group battle remake

[@grimreapers]

We'll include it in the upcoming 2030's battles.

[@thecollective1633]

@@grimreapers Cap for the 2030 fleet are you going to add the Peregrine or CUDA missile currently in development? F-35 should be able to hold more BVR missiles. The missiles have a range of an AIM-120 and should have a similar range while being half the size meaning the f-35 could carry 2-3x internally so 12.

[@simonwoess5679]

@@thecollective1633 well A 2030s battle would also emply the use of PL-17 and PL-21 Missiles And i don't think there are the mods for all the tech that will come online in the next 10 years

[@simonwoess5679]

@@grimreapers on Piont of 2030s battles Isn't there also a mod for the H-20 bomber

[@MrNakedweasel]

With JAMMING, and SEAD/DEAD! I understand that EW is not adequately moddled in DCS, but, it is so integral and vital to modern naval warfare that some attempt should be made to include it in this battle. Please. 😁

[@gotafarmyet4691]

Well Cap.. One thing I have learned from your battles, the tax payer always looses :)

[@grimreapers]

Yes this was a pricey one.

[@dexlab7539]

Yup, that’s why the only thing the F22 has shot down is a balloon

[@sweatybotfn9982]

“If you’re gonna die, die like that” 😂 famous words

[@Anarchy_420]

Excellently done! Exceptionally entertaining!👍👍

[@bulattankman9907]

For a minute I thought the title was F-35c vs NEW F35G

[@subjectc7505]

F-35C vs Grim Reaper F-35 sounds like a good idea

[@DR-jq9bg]

Thanks, Cap. Another brilliant video!

[@gsflightsimfun20]

Love you guys :) Awesome as always!!

[@Jaxymann]

J-35: Who are you? F-35C: I’m you, but stronger.

[@jonathantoymaker]

In no way.....😂😂😂

[@crimsonmoongaming4512]

​@@jonathantoymakeralways you're just mad that China can't make good technology has to reverse-engineer American technology they literally stole blueprints from the f-35 you're mad they have to have two engines otherwise it wouldn't be able to fly to China can't make decent engines you cry baby

[@BaldHeadedManc]

​@@jonathantoymakerImagine being so wrong on multiple comments, yet being so confident you're correct. 😂😂 What a way to spend your time.

[@jonathantoymaker]

@@BaldHeadedManc I know...that's crazy 🤪

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

And leaner.

[@alexandersvenskmen4998]

​Hello, Cap! I'm too hoping you're doing very well! I think you're overmodelled F-35C kinematics a bit, according to wikipedia empty weight of C variant is 34,581 lb, so wing loading should be a little higher and thrust to weight a little lower obviously). Love your work, been watching since 2016 when you did dogfights with Sherman and greatly enjoyed every one of your videos! Amazingly entertaining work, thank you very much for everything you've done!

[@jmtpolitico80]

Yup right off the bat all the long range were being beaten. So I would love to see them with only Short Range and Guns or just put the majority Short Range. I think that would really be a good fight, but also easier to kill.

[@nathaniellazo5912]

Think this is the first I have seen the J-35 in any similation in any DCS content, this will be interesting... This also reminds me little of a senario I suggest way back, what if you do a 2v2 carrier simulation with 1 modern and 1 older group. Ex: USN 2020's + 1990's vs the PLAN 001 + 003 groups, or maybe something else... like from Russia with kuznetsov + Shtrom? the UK? or India? You guys keep up the good work guys!!

[@dexlab7539]

ACM at the end was AWESOME - Thx Cap!

[@dsong2006]

The newest update version for the J-35 comes with 2 WS-19s is for a combined thrust of 48k lbs, since this plane hasn't even entered services yet using the earliest numbers of 40k lb thrust is kind of strange. That plane was likely just a tech demonstrator/early prototype.

[@iamscoutstfu]

By that logic they should use F35 with tech refresh three and block four upgrades and P&W engine core upgrade and/or adaptive cycle engines...

[@benelgar-white1174]

When numbers are unknown blue forces are always estimated generously and red forces conservatively because..... 🤷‍♂️

[@jamesparcha862]

@@benelgar-white1174I think it is because the trend for almost any of the tech is for the blues to not reveal their top ability, and for reds to over represent their capabilities. This is very evident in the the missle gap, gulf war, Ukraine, etc…

[@jonathantoymaker]

No comment 🤣

[@thomaszhang3101]

@@iamscoutstfulet’s be honest here. The variable cycle engine probably won’t be ready until 2030.

[@ehmul1510]

unpoular opinion: the j35a looks pretty good

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Look good it does. How it performs is another thing. I suspect it's much better than su57, which is a pile of junk, but still worse than stated/supposed figures, because China.

[@grimreapers]

It's a but more slim line than the F-35.

[@dexlab7539]

Yup, longer and thicker😂

[@patricktho6546]

9:40 I would be more concerned with the fuel consumption and therefore worse range, especially since the engines of the J 35 seem to be optimized for higher speeds to achive the higher top speed

[@TheNecromancer6666]

They seem to be very similar to the RD33.

[@jmtpolitico80]

Cannot wait to watch this baby! Thanks guy's, I am sure it is going to be exciting!

[@sunray501]

3:12 From looking at jet costs, i'd surmise that double engines tend to increase the costs of the jet and the cost/flight hour. F-16 has been cheaper on paper compared to the F-15C. i suspect this is one of those costs. On the other hand, the F-15C maintains better top speeds. For carrier worthiness, having a good launch is an important thing to have. If having double engines could help with that, good. But idk if i'd choose double engines if the output compared to the single engine is close.

[@stupidburp]

Only a minor quibble: it would be nice if they had more distinct liveries. Similar paint with similar shape makes a little bit difficult to tell them apart on a small screen on my phone. The tail end is the main way I identified them but not always clearly visible.

[@SuperDuperBDUB]

Imagine being a US Navy pilot merged with a J-35 and you can barely tell who is who lol

[@msytdc1577]

​@@SuperDuperBDUBtime to bust out the colored electrical tape like they have had to for Ukraine vs Russia similar looking kit

[@dexlab7539]

Agreed - it would really help the ‘valuable viewers’

[@smilemore1997]

Same.

[@smilemore1997]

​@@SuperDuperBDUBimagine bring a United States pilot operating a multi million dollar machine that offers a complete 360° view with a H.U.D. which identifies friend from foe.. just for one example.

[@Wolfe351]

nice....will watch this in 8hrs when I get up.........its been a long day LOL

[@trentvlak]

Nice job, Cannonball, right into the mountain.

[@sweatybotfn9982]

And the J-35 is supposed to have WS-19 engines has a better thrust to weight ratio of 9

[@saintuk70]

16:00 If you gonna die, die with your boots on!

[@jorehir]

One big engine is more efficient than 2 small engines, for the same total thrust. Why? Because bigger engines have a higher VOLUME / AREA ratio, thus loosing less heat and also building up less boundary layer. There are other nuances too.

[@grimreapers]

BUT, if a single engine is to suck in a bird in the J-35, the remaining engine can get it back to the carrier? The F-35 would have to ditch?

[@jorehir]

@@grimreapers Yeah, i'd rather have 2 engines behind my back. I think the F-35 has only 1 because it's more convent in terms of commonality with other engines/planes. And let's not forget about the vertical takeoff system, which is made simpler and lighter by a single engine.

[@jonathantoymaker]

Fantastic model of the J-35 👍

[@patricktho6546]

29:05 Wing size is not the only thing. Body lift and other stuff is very important. I mean like in F1 it isn't just about the maximum wing angle and area, but lots more complex stuff, and similar goes for planes

[@Smokeyr67]

Wing loading, not wing size is the relevant terminology :)

[@smilemore1997]

​@@Smokeyr67thank you! I'm sure the OP knew what they were talking about haha it happens to me all the time as well. If I can't remember it soon enough then I become impatient and describe it the best way I can.

[@gunzelloharris3348]

Tht wuz cool!! :) Nice Vid CAP!

[@grimreapers]

Hi Ello

[@Elzon1]

If the J-35 is too heavy maybe they should sacrifice some fuel space for 2 more missiles to be somewhat equal to the F-35. Also, if they could incorporate thrust vectoring that would be a great help.

[@Elzon1]

@@wombatgirl997 The J-35 simply not having as many missiles as the F-35 reduces the J-35's lethality versus the F-35. Two equivalent jets in a fight with one having 2 more missiles most likely means the one with the additional missiles will win. So while the J-35 and F-35 have similar performance at range the F-35 holds a MAJOR advantage with the additional 2 missiles. If I were the Chinese adding two more modernized thermal/video guided missiles to the J-35 would be an absolute MUST to be equivalent to it's direct rival the F-35. Obviously adding two more missiles means giving those missiles more internal space to fit them in which means eliminating some fuel storage. Adding just those two additional missiles puts the J-35 on par with the F-35's lethality at range. And although eliminating some of the fuel storage to fit the two missiles reduces the J-35's range it also increases the J-35's thrust to weight ratio. So while it's range is reduced a little it gains equivalent lethality to the F-35 and better maneuverability. Also, I don't know if the J-35 actually had thrust vectoring in this simulation, but having thrust vectoring is absolutely essential in a modern dogfight. Having SOME thrust vectoring is better than having ZERO thrust vectoring.

[@dsong2006]

@@wombatgirl997 what are you talking about, none of the F-35 variants has thrust vectoring

[@dexlab7539]

Good thing they have lighter pilots….demonitized 😂

[@dsong2006]

@@wombatgirl997 F-35 was never designed to be a great dog fighter, not even the A and C variant w/o vtol

[@jackgeigerscalamitoustail6838]

The US Navy funds both the Marines and Navy. When the Super-Hornets were procured, the Marines opted to forego updating their aging Hornets to Super Hornets in favor of waiting for the Joint Strike Fighter. Currently, there isn't a massive strategic need for the Navy to upgrade their Super Hornet fleet to Lightnings. If you combine the Marine and Naval Air assets, the US Navy is coming up on 130 F-35s in its inventory. The Navy took ownership of two squadrons of F35s for contract purposes and deferred additional 35Cs to allow the the Marines to increase their combat effectiveness

[@luckymkhonto9092]

Nice vid

[@cestlextase]

would like to see a Viggen use case mission

[@unknownuser069]

These are kind of silly - sillier than the 4th gen equivalent. In the real world the missiles used against low observable aircraft have to be fired using FOX-1 tactics ... depending on the firing aircraft sensors. This gives F-35 an outsized advantage against anything else flying or proposed. (Outside of NGAD and FA/XX)

[@FireGoliath]

Hey, don't know if anyone mentioned it, J-35 Meimingzi, is literally "doesn't have name"

[@MrNakedweasel]

I'd have liked to see this progress to an ASUW mission, once the ACM had been decided. The F-35C has a strong anti-ship capability when loaded with JSOW-C, and SDB II. Naturally, it would be even deadlier when it could be loaded with Joint Strike Missile. If all stealth considerations are largely unnecessary, the F-35C could be externally loaded with LRASM.

[@Striker427]

GR: We didn't configure the ships to fire at stealth aircraft today, also because we don't want them to. THEY CAN SHOOT PAST THE ENTIRE BATTLEFIELD. 052D: Y E S

[@grimreapers]

Yes it's a problem with the new ships. The terrains in game are not large enough.

[@jaychambers7955]

As a life long ornithologist and falconer. I feel I must let you know it's Gyr pronounced as the Ger in Germany.👍

[@flyjym2276]

I’ve been watching a lot of dcs videos recently and lurking in the comments of some of them and one glaring thing I’ve noticed is that American commentators are IMO too cocky when talking about American airframes vs Chinese or Russian airframes even though the specifications of all the airframes like rcs or the power of their radars are probably highly classified. Nb: this is coming from someone that is not from any of those countries, it’s just something I noticed in the comments’ section of most dcs videos.

[@92HazelMocha]

For one it's about engagement. DCS has a relatively small player base so for a YT channel about DCS to become popular (or profitable) they have to get viewers who don't fly in the Sim. The fastest way to do this is to cater to echochambers. You seem like a primarily English speaking person which means the channel you'll see will be in English and those channels cater to English speakers to become or stay profitable. People love watching videos about how great they or their country are so american YTers are likely to cater to that.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

No wonder. Commblock figures are always inflated, maintenance is poor, tech base is inferior, management is rigid and inefficient, pilot training is lacking. I live in Mordor and know that for a fact. Western figures are always understated, management is not without issues, but competent and motivated, manufacturing and R&D are top of the line, maintenance is good, pilot training superb. These parameters are defined by the political system, and can't be improved without changing it.

[@jonathantoymaker]

​@@92HazelMochaOK now I understand..these videos are to give them courage 😮😂

[@grimreapers]

It's US, China and Russia. These people seem to think that their toy is the best and shout at each other in the comments for reasons I can't understand. Strangely the Europeans do not seem to exhibit this behaviour. Maybe it's a cultural thing? People from UK are quite happy to accept that our military is not very good at all for example.

[@TheRealSteve42]

Hey, just commenting on what you said about having one vs. two engines. Having one engine is much stealthier than having two, as it significantly decreases the surface area of the least stealth part of the airframe, the engines and center section of the fuselage. It also looks like the J-35 sacrifices some stealth body features in favor of better aerodynamics (particularly better low speed flying characteristics) and more interior space, similar to the F-35 in comparison to the F-22. Assuming the J-20 would be adapted with whatever developments China made with RAM technology with the FC-31, I would say the J-20 is probably stealthier than the J-35. The J-35/FC-31 is also commonly seen with a massive nose probe, and it is unknown as to whether that is a production feature or not. That would SIGNIFICANTLY increase RCS if this were installed, that alone would probably be larger than 0.005m^2.

[@dsong2006]

F-22 has two engines

[@ticonderoga4915]

Just a quick note F-35 can't carry AIM-9x internally because of exhaust issues.

[@avi8aviate]

With how many dogfights appeared here, I wonder if putting an Equalizer gunpod on the F-35s could've been necessary.

[@thegamingshatt4758]

any idea why I don't have a cockpit for either the j20 or j35?

[@frankwells7833]

Hello Cap and others. I have been enjoying your videos and I am thinking about starting some flying some DCS. I have been looking at the equipment videos and I am seriously confused. As a total NOOB I was wondering if you have or could make a video that would offer tips on what to get for starter gear and how to use it. I would love to learn how to enjoy the flight sims as much as you guys.

[@RTS907]

Just do a search on KZbin, there are so many intro videos.

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

honestly I imagine that at some point every big military nation/military traditional nations like France, the uk, Japan and a few others will prolly end up making some sort of 5th gen aircraft at some point (maybe) and will obv take design inspiration from the f35/22 since their shapes and the general aesthetic of those planes lead to their stealth profile being what they are, even if the difference between the f35 and another 5th gen fighter ends up being 0.002 and 0.005 ish respectively, the difference there is minimal, but if it’s as close as that, I think then it would come down to the strength/quality of each planes armament and their targeting capabilities through radar and so on. Like let’s be honest with that point, let’s say both planes have the same radar cross section, and one has a more powerful radar (let’s say 25-50%), which one is more likely to detect the other? And thus get their shot off first?

[@Barefoot433]

All good points. I would add that the average USN pilot is much better than any PLAN pilot. Way more training, it's in their blood for generations, and so on.

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

@@Barefoot433 same with the raf and so many others. we still pride training above anything else, to me the only reason the us is ahead is cause of the numbers.

[@tyshaunbrown2403]

Where can you download the mods and updates that GR is showing I’m the videos?

[@grimreapers]

Link in vid description.

[@tyshaunbrown2403]

@@grimreapers Thank you!! Does the mod include the alterations that the team has made such as the FM,RCS adjustments?

[@hoperp1951]

Designer of the J-35, the name is said like this.... "may ming zher". That is as close as you can get using English phonetics and is near spot on (my wife is Chinese so I got some expert assistance).

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@SWBB1000]

If you think about it. Call of duty black ops think either 1 or 2 kinda predicted this. Think it was the battle map on the Chinese carrier. Had it own Chinese version of the F-35 which came true it’s the J-35. While haven the Chinese copy of the seahawk and the type 003 carrier.

[@92HazelMocha]

Pretty crazy when you think about it because black ops 2 came out over ten years ago.

[@harryhoudini714]

9:38 one more thing though, how sexy is that black metallic skin.....love it!

[@lordsqueak]

Strider cos-playing as Truth The first casualty of war

[@RealJordi]

Wait where do you buy the f-35?

[@anonymus2995]

do you know anywhere that i can download a f35 from

[@freddiejohames8332]

The j35 looks like a love child between the raptor and the lightning. And also you can tell in the Americans voice. Of their determination to win :)

[@djzoodude]

So, as far as i know, the J-35 hasn't really even started production yet, let alone entered service. So this is a future battle. Why is the F-35 using AIM-120Ds and not JATMs?

[@lordsqueak]

1 vs 2 engines..... hmmmmm Can I introduce a 3rd option? I think the best engines to use for a naval jet, is the Swedish versions of GE F404 (and F414??) , where it's designed to be able to ingest a bird, and still be able to operate well enough to be able to fly home. The number of engines is probably favoring the single engine variants, because 2 engines are twice as likely to have an problem. (and you're not going to fly any missions with an engine problem.) So the 3rd option is basically taking the best of both the other options. ;)

[@grimreapers]

Fair comment.

[@vehx9316]

Instead of J-35 or other stealth fighters whose stealth characteristics has to be guess work. I wish we get more 4th gen fighters that makes for more interesting fight. And there is literally nothing known about the weapons load out because the only one we ever had a glimpse of was the original FC-31 which was privately developed model by Shenyang that was never intended to be the final configuration but merely a technology demonstrator of sorts. So weapons loadout was definately not on the company's mind at the time . The FC-31 uptill now has so far been a private venture by SAC, we have no knowledge on whether the PLAAF/PLAN had decided to fund the project. For one we have yet to see a working J-10B/C model in DCS. Or the JH-7B fighter bomber.

[@bearcatracing007]

Bird is the word

[@koskey06]

The Navy would have at least 1 A wacks a long with the ships super powerful radar. Even the best stealth would be detected well over 20 miles. Now getting a good lock for missles is another thing but it would deff help way more than just the f35 radar

[@Miklosxp]

correct me if I'm wrong, in reality because of the helmet of the F-35, the pilot doesn't need to have the nose pointed at the opponent in order to lock and fire the missiles, right?

[@m1t2a1]

Wonderful to see without the navies being involved.

[@dreaminknight]

What for a F-35 Gyros?

[@patricktho6546]

6:40 you don't have to do it as fast as possilbe. Some like it shorter, or even skip it, and some like the details and lore.

[@kiwishamoo6494]

The taxpayer figure is telling

[@damienpinckney3355]

is there a reason why nobody shows the f 35 cockpit?

[@grimreapers]

There is no F-35 cockpit in DCS yet.

[@RTS907]

“He likes sneaking up to men from behind!”, Cap (2023)

[@seanmataya2290]

Maximum boom boom 💥 🎉

[@TinfoilHatWearer]

Hey Reapers.. Quick question/request... I recently watched some released footage from the US Military of a weapon called a "quicksink JDAM" being deployed against a very large oil freighter. This missile in the video, cracked the ship in half with a single blow. Does dcs have this Capability, or something similar? And, since the real life weapon literally sheered a massive freighter in half with a single blow, how come other missiles meant to destroy ships, DON'T have the destructive power that some have in real life? Can u make a video of all the different missiles/bombs vs naval ships? Thanks. God bless. Cheers.

[@grimreapers]

Sort of. Problem is in game we have the old style JDAM which can not hit moving targets. So it would have to be a stationary ship, which is a bit stupid.

[@TinfoilHatWearer]

@@grimreapers ahh.. I see... Hey, thanks for responding.. You're amazing!

[@iamscoutstfu]

Shouldn't Tech refresh 3 and block 4 be complete by the time J35 comes out?

[@grimreapers]

Almost certainly.

[@sethjones5250]

Really enjoying these scenarios. Still, what about submarines, specifically those with missiles. Say for example, an ohio class sub goes back in time and takes on the Japanese pearl harbor attack fleet. Yes I know this means using nukes, lots of nukes. You could set it somewhere else like midway or the marianas turkey shoot or something. I know these are equipped with icbms, but just for the sake of the game, we can start it out far enough away that these can be used to hit the japanese fleet its entire compliment of warheads. If possible, figure out if this ends up devastating land based installations with radiation and tsunami sized waves and how far away from the numerous ground zeros . Just guessing that it wouldn't take all of the nuclear warheads on an Ohio class to neutralize the Japanese fleet, and that thered likely be enough left over to nuke the japanese mainland. In fact, I can't help but wonder if a single Ohio Class Submarine would have enough firepower to singlehandedly defeat or at the very least cripple the Japanese war effort in 1941.

[@Zalthook5048]

Is the J-35 in Production?

[@grimreapers]

Wiki predicts 2026/27

[@captain_kirkyt2481]

I'm not an experienced aerodynamicist, but why would the gyrfalcon have a top speed of mach. 1.8 while the lightning witch has the same thrust and is lighter has a top speed of 1.6?

[@hughmungus2760]

the F35 has a larger bypass turbofan meaning it trades thrust for max speed.

[@grimreapers]

F-35 simply wasn't designed for high top speed. Was not in the design brief.

[@thesandwichfreak3780]

Redo the battle with the caveat that the first team who successfully lands on the opposing team's aircraft carrier wins...

[@NoSteponSnek69]

Piiiiigs iiiiin Spaaaace!!

[@jokiejoker2011]

It always come down to who spends the most money! Merica!!!

[@dexlab7539]

Actually, China is building ships and aircraft at 1/3 the costs. That is why PLAN is getting very capable and big FAST! So it’s not just about total money but cost efficiency

[@GordonHaag]

I think "meimingzi" means "no name"

[@javieriniguez1444]

I kind of like the J-35. It's what the F-35 should've been, had it not been for commonality ........l mean jointness.

[@elementaleighteight]

NEW META?? personal underwater " scooter" marketed on Amazon for example. Extremely small. So..let's say.. Droves of these launched via carrier modules into close range separation en masse. Thousands of torps?

[@lonurad1259]

as far as I am aware, f35 should have more engine power (even though j35 has 2 engines) but the j35 can carry 6 internal not 4. Edit: Nah, followed up on it, just using logic here, it's smaller than the j20 and possibly has the exact same weapon bays internally so idk about the j35 carrying 6 missiles... I'll have to do more research.

[@jmtpolitico80]

I was just listening to the armament for the Jets and I paused. Now do you think that is the best load out? Seeing that they really can't see each other till max 22 miles, so by the time you lock and are able to fire you'd be around 18ish miles. Would just a load out of close range be the best? Cause I think the close range works better anyway cause they are IR missiles. Seeing you are doing stealth on stealth basically it will be easier to beat an AIM or PL than a IR missile. Just a thought that came to my mind immediately Shockingly.... I will watch and learn I guess...

[@grimreapers]

Loadout is ALWAYS a controversial issue in these fights. I wish someone else would set them out TBH.

[@jmtpolitico80]

@@grimreapersHey it's all good! It just for some reason popped into my head as you were reading out the load out. And I figured I would just ask. You guys are the experts! Great video tho budddy!

[@user-pt8og3ls5x]

China does not have a fighter jet of the model J-35.

[@Duckfisher0222]

Pepsi where is my f-35?

[@timbaskett6299]

Real question, does the "Wannabe-35(drunk falcon)" have a cannon? Okay, that question was answered.

[@Zhujac]

Double standard at work😂😂😂😂

[@subjectc7505]

I thought it's the FC-31 or F-31

[@92HazelMocha]

FC-31 was the prototype's name years back, similar to how the F35 was the X35 and the F22 was the YF22.

[@grimreapers]

That was the original project name, pretty sure the service name will be J-35.

[@jonathantoymaker]

The J-35 is for the navy...The J-31 is for the airforce...not the same

[@dasmooze]

Cap the GR aim120d3 is buggy and under preforming. Also china doesn't have any production j35 right now so if we are doing a future battle where they have a bunch all working off of a carrier, then the f35 should have AIM260s

[@grimreapers]

Yup this is a good point and noted.

[@quanohong572]

@@grimreapers then J-35 and J-20 will have PL-21

[@TheNecromancer6666]

Isnt it called J-31? I never read of it being referred to as J-35 before.

[@My_initials_are_O.G.cuz_I_am]

If I'm correct, FC-31/J-31 was a prototype for J-35

[@dementio14]

Hi. Can you do something else from WW2? What would Germany needed to defend the bombing of Dresden on 13.02.1945. There only civilians have been killed, so that would be a good thing to prevent this

[@grimreapers]

ok

[@Dragonman1OOO]

What I saw in the beginning is that unlike other naval battles the humans rushed forward! In other battles it was always the AI that engaged each other first before the humans arrived! And because the blue side got more missiles it could engage more enemies early in the same time while sucking up a lot off enemy missles with better evading than AI. And when blue AIs arrived in mass and started launching it's missiles it came to an uncontrollable numerical advantage! I don't know why this battle started differently? And why wasn't the same amount of missiles were given to both side? And I hope it wasn't just for blueside bias to pleasure the valued (American) viewers! I am skeptical... Something was off here!

[@Tornado1861]

Does the J-35 have a gun?

[@DripsDrop]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5qspoV4pNRnmKcm21s - gets discussed here. Doesn't seem to have a gun from what we have read.

[@jonathanregan4344]

2 engines will also consume more fuel.

[@grimreapers]

Yes I thought this.

[@RTS907]

So will this be Taiwan vs China in 3-8 years?

[@mcintyrec1981]

I thought the Chinese carrier only had 3 cats

[@grimreapers]

I don't have Chinese carrier in game. Best I can do.

[@deterdettol]

Chinese guy’s name “meimingzi” literally means “no name”.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@deterdettol]

@@grimreapers “沒名字” Also, you’re welcome :)

[@markoconnell804]

With current engine tech for the US market 1 engine is better than 2. Reason being is that with 2 you now have human error coupled with one engine taking the other engine out. The combination is a higher risk than a the single F-35 engine.

[@kiwishamoo6494]

[@markoconnell804]

@@kiwishamoo6494 not my data but government data.

[@paulcadden4967]

I'm sure I just saw an f35c firing guns on j35? How is that possible as it doesn't have a gun?

[@grimreapers]

It has external gunpod, we just haven't modelled it in 3d.

[@MrVanderchevy18]

Are you getting the RCS from the shape of the aircraft only? Does that take into account the RAM coating? Recently a US airforce guy let slip that the radar cross section on the F-35 is similar to the F-22 and the frontal cross section is even a little better. Also, the F-35 uses the AN-APG 81. Do you really think the chinese knock off radar is even close to as powerful?

[@92HazelMocha]

Power =/= fidelity. The Mig31 has a more powerful radar than both of them, but far far worse fidelity.

[@jonathantoymaker]

J-35 radar is the more and most powerful than any 5th gen 😊

[@MrVanderchevy18]

@jonathantoymaker Well now you've lost all credibility. You're just trolling. Not even the Chinese believe that.

[@MrVanderchevy18]

@92HazelMocha Supposedly the power of the AN APG 81 and the networking ability of the F35 systems is making AWACS all but obsolete. That in itself is a boon for the ability of the F-35. I know it isn't possible to model the networking ability properly in DCS, but maybe there's a way to represent it somehow.

[@jonathantoymaker]

@@MrVanderchevy18 Truth is not trolling...well sometimes it is I guess

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

Idk if the J-35 even deserves to be in a video. They dont even have any production models built, just test models. Meanwhile the U.S. has 400 F-35's and we are already building 6th gen fighter jets (the F/A-XX)...lol

[@bored7984]

Some one explain to me the difference between the F-35 and J-35

[@dexlab7539]

One has a J

[@eatshitpitt1990]

Wouldnt the aim 260 be out by the time the j35 comes online?

[@dexlab7539]

Yes, but China would also have their “PL-260” out by then too 😂