F*ck Plot

[@KaiAfterKai]

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[@TSDTalks22]

So true *googles “fuck plot” ending explained video to make sure I got it*

[@KaiAfterKai]

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[@JacktheStripper-tc5pn]

Just because you don't understand the plot doesn't make it bad, plot DOES matter it's just not necessary for every peice of fiction. Good stories are fun to experience but great stories have good plot, characters and tone

[@sorenkair]

"just because russian people can't understand you doesn't mean you're speaking bad russian." a plot's coherence, its ability at effectively communicating its events is arguably its most important quality.

[@JacktheStripper-tc5pn]

@@sorenkair So you're saying every piece of fiction should be catered to slowest humanity has to offer just so everyone can understand, is that it?

[@JacktheStripper-tc5pn]

@@sorenkair I agree there is a difference between complex and indecipherable but I wasn't talking about one piece of media, I was talking about plot as a whole. Historically mentally ill people tend to be more creative

[@sorenkair]

@@JacktheStripper-tc5pn the plot serves very specific functions. i would only agree that a bad plot doesn't necessarily make bad art. there is a correlation between certain mental illnesses and creativity, but we don't know the cause. it could very well be the art and stress of making art that causes the suffering, as well as survivorship/confirmation bias.

[@JacktheStripper-tc5pn]

@@sorenkair I can agree with that. My theory is that mentally ill people are more creative/ seemingly make better art is a combination of venting and not being held back by society but most is commonly due to escapism

[@vecvecvec]

this video said what i've been thinking for a long time, very directly and efficiently. i've always been very high on character dynamics over plot in a story. it's probably homestuck's fault-at many points that comic almost feels like the characters are fighting against the concept of plot itself, and winning. the plot is kind of an afterthought, and the characters constantly stop in the middle of it to hash out their drama. i love love LOVE it when linear storytelling is sidelined in favor of interaction, because honestly, it just feels more human to me? my life is a blur, and ALL of the things that stick out to me in the end are moments, not episodes. over the past year i finally started doing what i've always really wanted to do-make comics with my original characters-and realizing how little of a shit i give about plot has honestly made my comics better. (BLAME did this for me big time and i was surprised and extremely satisfied that you shouted it out here.) they're about shards of myself chatting and bickering and kissing one another, not things happening to everyone in sequence. people are a lot more important to me than events. shit is beautiful. well said.

[@KaiAfterKai]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and best of luck with your original comics!

[@andrewbreazna]

I came here to say this, finding only 170 likes and 1.4k views. kai may be come of my favorite internet thinkers/speakers right now.

[@amt253]

"No, go away, leave us alone, let us have this moment." Fuck plot indeed!

[@KaiAfterKai]

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[@Anonlyso]

Hard agree. Been hanging a bit in the Pschology-Media space after jumping from Philosophy/Analysis and it's made me more appreciative about the "emotional connection" being far more fundamental, if not instinctual to what people take from art. I don't know if it's just me, but "over thinking" on explicit, implicit or really any particularly "heady" theory crafting does a disservice to the experiential nature of a work cuz yeah, it can be pretty, and any larger calculated message might be worth a thinkpiece or two, but if it has no "soul" that will people really want to engage with it, much less get catharsis for it?

[@KaiAfterKai]

Couldn’t agree more. Thanks for watching!

[@creedecriswell634]

Eva is one of my favorite shows. Shinji always getting in that dang robot.

[@likliksnek]

Just stumbled upon your channel by chance and apart from the interesting and really well-made videos I've seen so far, I cannot, and this might be a tad inappropriate to say, stop listening to your voice. You have such a captivating way to speak, somehow soothing and energizing at the same time. Thank you! ☺

[@KaiAfterKai]

I appreciate that ^^

[@m1ea]

I'm new to this channel and wow, this was great. Heartfelt and true and I'm here for it.

[@KaiAfterKai]

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed; hope you continue to do so

[@Nikkiflausch]

Kai, have you seen Climax? That movie hit me more than most other horror movies ever have.

[@Sebboebbo]

Da king is back baby he neva miss

[@Sleepy-Yeah]

Dude, your content is so underrated! I hope you get more attention to these videos

[@thebookofive]

I wanted to write a really insightfull comment, but the only think I had is "shit is indeed beautiful". Great video!

[@KaiAfterKai]

"Shit is indeed beautiful." Perhaps there's nothing else to be said. Thank you for watching!

[@randomthrowawayaccount7721]

really cool video, the way you described blame really spoke to me for some reason

[@Onabszy]

I really like this video. A beautiful road is worth nothing if there's no one to point out it's beauty

[@vedqiibyol]

It's like absurdism but IRL, I like it!

[@IvanoForgione]

though I love Tenet, I understand your criticism and I also love some movies that have zero plot but still are so great to let them go through you: Jim Jarmush' Paterson and Wim Wenders' Perfect Days are recent, perfect examples. Also, I need to point it out, I LOVE your original scores for videos, and your voice. Subscribed for these reasons, too.

[@AstroRoby]

Any kind of art has always been about communicating emotion :D I think we often forget this with movies. Sometimes it's not about the story it's about the emotions. Very cool video and observation!

[@KaiAfterKai]

Agreed, and thanks for watching!

[@pirateguy3521]

I would argue that it’s the characters that matter in a story over anything else. If the characters suck then what’s the point if the story is good or if it looks pretty?

[@timrosswood4259]

Well that gets very subjective. What does it mean for a character to suck?

[@caffetiel]

finally somebody agrees with me about TENET. Shit was fuckin dope. Gonna watch it again now

[@NikuNicole_RikkuX5]

I've been thinking about this topic a lot in regards to video games and my issue with most modern games. I adore a good story but it's ultimately more important how it's written instead of what it's telling. I just got back from a new giant AAA Jrpg and found time to continue a retro Jrpg that's much simpler in scale yet so creative and fun within it's limitations. Nowadays games tell huge stories that are portrayed in this over the top bombastic way, handholdy explanations and "realistic" looks. It is kind of overkill yet misses the essentials of good writing

[@Frongo]

that scenery...

[@galit5912]

3:35 why is kazuma kiryu in this video

[@TheNoviceOAO]

Find it difficult to find black british youtubers. I appreciate what you do just based off that

[@KaiAfterKai]

Glad your search led you here 🙏🏽

[@Nikkiflausch]

THANK YOU for the criticism of Tenet. In my opinion, the criticism that movie gets should go to almost all of Christopher Nolan's other movies too. He barely ever had anything to say past Memento. He himself said that what his movies are about is that reality isn't exactly what you thought it was. But what the fuck does that mean? Absolutely nothing. It's a cis man's desperate attempt at finding some conflict in the world to make art about, so he makes his movies complicated exclusively for the purpose of feeling smart for having figured it out. There's never any meaning in the plot's complexity (except for Memento). And that's just amplified to the max in Tenet.

[@comradethatmetalguy]

Fuck the plot ❤

[@KaiAfterKai]

Fuck it indeed

[@FlyingHandStudios]

You should watch mad god

[@KaiAfterKai]

Very much intend to. A lot of people I know have talked it up. A friend of mine made a video about it actually, if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYebc6GuqrV5aLssi=WlN1DcXmQxVcxhGk

[@DefinitelyEllie]

Great video, putting to words stuff I agreed with, stuff I had thought off but couldnt word and stuff I hadnt even realised I thought. And now having binged 90% of your work, Im certain that Im going to be a longtime subscriber.

[@KaiAfterKai]

Thank you very much for your comments 🙏🏽 hope you enjoy what I've got next