F1 2020 Handling Review & 2019 Comparison

[@ccramit]

I love the new handling and I love how braking feels. Brakes are a lot more responsive and create less lock ups.

[@sulphurous2656]

It feels the best for me on the late 2000s cars. Those are a joy to drive.

[@Nockspielt]

Now we need visuell tyre flex and laser scanned tracks, in the f1 games.

[@avarmauk]

It perplexes me why f1 doesn’t have laser scanned tracks. Sure they just need to do it once and it’s there for all future games too.

[@RB-rs4oh]

If it was laser scanned the people who are new to f1 wouldn’t like it I have driven laser scanned tracks in a different game. The laser scanned track is really hard

[@CrashTestSkater]

@@RB-rs4oh Indeed, this is a game afterall not a simulator.. unfortunate for those of us who would prefer a sim.. but alas.. :(

[@donniedial3014]

@@CrashTestSkater they should allow us to play both, but that'd be a lot of work. Imagine if every game had the options to play on sim physics, sim damage, laser scanned tracks, and also be able to play on arcade physics, arcade damage, and built tracks.

[@brandodurham]

It feels worlds better than 2019. Even back to back with rf2 it feels like an actual sim. I’m loving it. Best graphics ever and dx12 actually utilizing my pc don’t hurt either

[@rxw5520]

I read somewhere that medium TC on 2019 is more realistic than off. It really smooths out the inputs as well.

[@matthewmyatt2625]

As long as I don’t feel like I’m floating on air or playing f1 2014 again then I’ll be happy

[@Gamebit257]

Just fine tune the out-of-the-box FFB settings of your Steering Wheel

[@anavgeekspassion5727]

I'm happy to announce that the floatiness is nearly gone. It's almost unnoticeable from time to time.

[@Gamebit257]

Yes, the FFB is much more tighter than previous years. Where in F1 2019 I used Wheel Dampening to feel some weight on my wheel, in 2020 I didn't had to use it because of how improved it is.

[@rosvokomppania]

@@Gamebit257 sounds promising, would be nice to have laser scanned tracks and vr support though

[@David-nu6kw]

2014 wasn't so bad. 2012 is completely unplayable looking back now.

[@JohnnieBWilliams]

It feels like you have SOOOOO much grip in this game it’s crazy

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

Just like in real F1 this season compared to 2019 season.

[@Route765]

It almost feels like medium traction control, but I find that the wheels start to spin like crazy if you go to a high RPM at low speeds (while turning)

[@ccramit]

Yeah, sometimes I felt like I got on the gas too early and expected my wheel to go dead from understeer or for my car to spin out, but it just picks up traction instead. Took me a few hours to get used to accelerating out of corners earlier.

[@avarmauk]

But is this a good thing? I don’t really know how it compares to a real F1 car

[@alexanderpower2195]

@@Route765 Haha! The real F1 drivers said that in F1 2019 the medium TC felt more like a real car, so they OBVIOUSLY took that feedback for granted. Another thing is, codies F1 sims have always had a very heavy feeling in the cars in slow speed corners compared to real F1. Real cars carry much more momentum into slow speed corners, and this year they made it more realistic. Loving the new handling

[@Hyperezil]

Couldn't agree more, I've racked up hundreds of hours on each F1 game apart from F1 2019 where I managed 20 hours. The handling for me in 2019 just seemed far too unnatural, far too easy to lock up, way too much under steer and then when you resolve the under steer issue you ended up with uncontrollable mid corner over steer. Jumped onto 2020 on release and was absolutely blown away at how good the handling model is on this. I feel like in 2020 you can really push the car to its absolute limits and if you over step the mark it's fairly easy to correct it but not too easy where it's unrealistic, the braking as well it just perfect.

[@FernandoFernandesJr]

This is the biggest fault of F1 games compared to other sims is that the only oversteer simulation is power oversteer. On pretty much every other situation over the limit all you get is understeer. There's never corner-entry oversteer, no matter the setup or how bad you try to throw the car. You can get in too hot in a corner, turn sharply and going hard on the breaks and you all you get is understeer. Gran Turismo is somewhat similar, and I would guess it's related to the games being built primarily for gamepads where it's hard to be smooth on the steering so they can't penalize that. I was hoping that in F1 2020 this simplification would be limited to the 'casual handling mode', but unfortunately it still happens on the 'standard mode'.

[@xblackgryph0nzz118]

Indeed. In the gamepad I played pc2 and I oversteered into the corner and It was Impossible to recover with the pad

[@youriberger7961]

true just play acc man

[@FernandoFernandesJr]

Yeah, I really like ACC and it does it really well. Actually most Sims get that right. The original Asseto Corsa also does, and even Project CARS 2 has it as well. Heck, even something supposedly more arcade-y like the latest GRID does corner-entry oversteer surprisingly better than the F1 series, and it's from the same developers!

[@Moonshine1147]

F1 2019: -Lack of grip & downforce (up to -30%, compared to how the real life car performance was supposed to be) -Understeer festival -Terrible Weight Transfer -Bad traction & braking F1 2020 fixed all of that and made the cars feel right, though the cars could get a bit more mechanical grip.

[@wolfboy20]

Wait seriously? I'm playing 2019 right now and thats why the cars feel unstable sometimes???

[@Moonshine1147]

@@wolfboy20 Yes. There was even a thread on the official Codemasters forum, where some guy went into detail about each track on how the cars were performing compared to reality. In the worst case scenario the cars were down on downforce and grip levels up to -30%. Codemasters never gave a honest answer to that thread and only stated that they will not fix the car performance during the lifetime of F1 2019. F1 2020 has fixed those issues, now the cars are planted, extremely stable, have correct downforce and grip levels, but are lacking a tiny bit in mechanical grip (which can be felt in low speed corners). Overall, F1 2020 is a major step into the right direction.

[@wolfboy20]

@@Moonshine1147 holy shit! Im on my 3rd grand prix and imma get 2020 later on but i gotta deal with these imperfections a while longer

[@frazebean5117]

@@wolfboy20 yes many real F1 drivers complained that the F1 games (not just 2019) previously were too slippy. Just watch Vettel play F1 2016 for example.

[@wolfboy20]

@@frazebean5117 Good to know

[@superfastmonkeysim5200]

Have to say, as someone who is a sim fan. I really really really appreciate your understanding of this game. And what it doesn’t and doesn’t do for casual or sim folks 🥳❤️

[@4ll4nb31l]

could not agree more. the car do feel as good like back in f1 2011 , 12 and , 13. those have been amazing games too

[@TheTeam1st]

Great and thorough elaboration Mr. Gillon :). In one of your next vids, could you elaborate a bit on how the handling compares to F1 2013 (and 2012)? I know, different cars, different engines, but still. Could you also talk about handling in wet conditions, and show few laps? Remember that in 2012 the racing line dried up first, and not the whole tarmac uniformly? Never understood why they removed this great and more realistic feature.

[@suhdud4646]

I feel sorry for die-hard sim racers. I love ALL spectrums of the racing genre. Die-hard sim racers really are depriving themselves. The last F1 title that I bought was 2016 since then ive been spending all my time in AC/ACC and iRacing. I decided to pick up this title and its a super fresh feeling. It really feels rewarding when riding at the limit of the car and the slight rear end slide that you get which is completely controllable feels so natural and controlling it feels just as natural. Loving F1 2020

[@fbcaware8805]

Don't feel sorry, some people don't have time to waste.

[@suhdud4646]

Those "some people" should then stay in their elite one track minded caves and should have no say in any topic sim/racing related because any opinion other than theirs will be wrong.

[@youriberger7961]

@@fbcaware8805 I mean you are watching a review of F1 2020 so you are also wasting your time

[@youriberger7961]

can you actually feel the car in F1 2020? I really like the tyre model of acc and how you can actually feel where the limit is and I never really had that experience playing the F1 games there you just needed to learn where the limit was

[@revirdkcalb]

Great video! Exactly what I was looking for... Can't wait to play the game. Are you going to be doing more videos on F1 2020? It seems like you would do good in the sort of tips & tricks videos!

[@AlexGillon]

Definitely!! I'll be making lots more videos on all sorts of things :)

[@revirdkcalb]

@@AlexGillon Great! Subscribed!

[@karldevon9415]

Would be great if you'd please share those tweaks to improve the handling.

[@Route765]

The engine braking feels even weaker than in F1 2018 and I've had to adjust my approach (braking even more where I previously used engine braking) but thankfully the loss of "extra rotation" hasn't affected me much

[@typicalguy2966]

I remember playing F1 2018 and staying in 7th gear all the time at the end of straights. It was too OP and unbalanced.

[@eSKAone-]

Super Formula in Gran Turismo Sport is also very very very very good.

[@coden2974]

great video, really in depth. You deserve more subs

[@hmurdock]

I'm a beginner in sim racing and the handling on f1 2020 is WAAAY better than in f1 2019. The 2019 version was undrivable for me, I had it first, then advances through Dirt Rally 2.0's all car classes from the 60's until the modern cars, and still couldn't drive f1 2019, until last week, but then I bought f1 2020 and it feels way more natural. BTW in rally games, the same difference exists, for me at least, between Dirt Rally 2.0 and WRC 9, the latter feels way more natural.

[@rainey06au]

What rules are you under by accepting the review copy? If you hated everything, are you allowed to make a video saying that?

[@toml3019]

He actually is allowed to criticize games without saying trash about it. It’s something content creators can do.

[@wedge_one]

Hey there, here's the thing: you just sold me F1 2020, but I'm don't wanna pick up at launch price, I think I'm gonna wait until the Steam Winter sales, but in the meantime, I wanted to scratch that F1 itchy. Currently, all F1 games are on sale on Steam Summer Sale, and I was about to pick up F1 2019 but after this video, I think it would be just a waste. For a first comer to the series though, do you recommend picking up any of the older games, like 2017 or 2018? Or just wait for 2020 sale? I do have a G27 wheel. Also, my interest is in playing the career mode offline. Thanks!

[@AlexGillon]

I definitely recommend F1 2020 over all the others, but the previous games aren't terrible, I just didn't like the handling that much. They've consistently added features every year, so get the newest one that you can afford in the sale, but definitely pick up F1 2020 ASAP

[@wedge_one]

@@AlexGillon yeah I'm really, really thinking about picking up F1 2020 now. The reception so far is very positive!

[@wedge_one]

@@AlexGillon Got my F1 2020 copy! Already preload (just the standard edition). Can't wait to start playing it! Thanks for the suggestions and for the video!

[@Barntos]

I have played both and still think 2019 is better not in terms of graphics but but reality the fact of contract signing, goals, comment on performance making it feel better but the graphics on f1 2020 are insanely better. Tbh if you have f1 2019 the upgrade is not necessarily needed but if want smoother graphics you can go for it. As said in the video the car has more balance and downforce at high speeds in f1 2020

[@geert574]

Graphics better in 2020? They smeared vaseline on screen everything is a haze and trees look like a blur

[@raphaelone666]

I've been playing both and F1 2020 you have more grip and can finally drive on the limit using PS4 controller which is good for me personally.

[@DG53]

Nice one mate. Nailed the review, and yes, it is my favourite too 😀

[@youriberger7961]

My main issue with the F1 2019 was that I couldn't feel the weight transfer of the car and that the grip felt super unnatural or unlike other sims I play is this solved in F1 2020?

[@addi1105]

Its not perfect but it has been improved massively. Feels much more natural than F1 2019

[@hamzterix]

That was exactly my problem with recent F1 games. The rear kicks out unnaturally and suddenly. From review I've seen so far people said it's "improved" So I think, it may not be as close to a sim.

[@hence0182]

High speed and medium speed feels almost identical to real life cars(talking from karting etc. experience), however the low speed tractions and turn ins could be much better.

[@Werferharfer]

Can't wait for f1 2021 for the next generation.

[@GeneralKenobiSIYE]

Under-steer? I get a lot of slight over-steer.

[@Jonah-Hosein]

Great review, as for the wheel lock thing i've noticed that since 2013... Though it wasn't a big issue until 2015 and beyond

[@17an28]

Just played f1 2020 for the first time and it feels so fucking fast 😳

[@lujolonewolf]

I’m having trouble with the new handling model, I like it but I in 2019 as you explained I drove and down shifted to lose the back end to rotate the car to take a sharp corner, now in tracks like Canada or Australia turn 1 I can’t stay inbounds.

[@chrispavlopoulos176]

I liked your review i was looking for the best F1 game for the playstation 4 that i juat got exclusively for F1 and Grand turismo games. I will get the 2020 . Thank you

[@mastertilen]

How is the AI in career mode. Are they overpowered on the straight?

[@Fz3r0_OPs]

Man, I just buy the game and start making hotlaps and I was like "do I have assist turned on?" I double check full sim and all assist off, and I was thinking if there's a mistake or something, no blocking at all hahaha, I have the same config as 2019 on my wheel and the handling is completely different hahahaha, then I found your video and read some comments xD. Definitely it's a different handling, much better, I broke some of my 2019 records in couple laps hahaha

[@whyjerrywhy]

Question : if you had to pick between laser scanned tracks or Full VR support what would you choose?

[@hamzterix]

Laser scanned tracks. So your lap times will be as close as real life. I have a full VR setup in my rig but still play 2d half of the time. Because VR taxes your PC a lot you'll lose details and frame rates. At the same time nothing feels better than be in a race car and looking around like you're really in it. So I'll go back and forth. Mostly because not all games support VR.

[@Deamonition]

What's weird... I have a lot of traction issues in 2020. I had to turn back on the TC (lowest setting) in 2020 cause I kept spinning. Mind you, I don't have a very sophisticated wheel and pedals (Thrustmaster TMX), so it is a bit difficult to feel how much traction I have. But, I was still able to play 2019 without any traction control. In 2020, I'm just not able to do that... Am I doing something wrong? Anbody else having the same problem?

[@Bilalx1905]

me too. i didnt bought f1 2019 but in 2018 you had so much grip. i easily played with tc off and know im struggeling so much.

[@aarongreenwood2277]

Hi Alex I really like f1 2020 game but in normal game modes like my team career I find that the car goes into dead slides in high speed corners like copes is their Any thing I can do to help fix this problem

[@caioangelo_5328]

In f1 2018 i was fairly quick, but in 2019 I was struggling a lot and completely off the pace for some reason

[@Maggy3646]

True

[@geert574]

Weight balancing removal, anyway 2019 is dog water, 2018 is way better sounds better and you're mega fast

[@Maggy3646]

@@geert574 yep

[@tyreestevens8987]

I've just bought f1 2019 on sale havent played it yet and was wondering if its worth buying f1 2020 aswell please help?

[@acticfl]

If you like F1, you might as well skip 2019

[@crisvis8905]

F1 2020 is on sale 40% off right now. Codemaster games always go on sale about 3-4 months after release

[@ERT_Andretti]

Is it similarly to F1 2017?

[@TimmyTheSnail]

I just went back and played 2019 and for some reason that felt better. Even though when I first played 2020 I thought it felt better than 19. Have they changed something in recent patches on 2020 because I swear it doesn’t feel as good anymore

[@Barntos]

19 is better imo

[@geert574]

2020 requires you to play on rails more less leeway

[@orinerlich2414]

I’m counting the seconds until it comes out!

[@JohnDoes620]

Funny you chose silverstone because I noticed the grip more so compared to 19 on those fast long rights there

[@romainprovost7164]

It's nice to play this game with controller ?

[@xen1465]

I've spent almost 1,5k hours on a controller in F1 games and while 2019 felt really decent, F1 2020's handling is so weird, so sensitive, there's just no way you can get smooth with such imputs there currently are in the game. Car is just way too sensitive, I doubt I will get used to it.

[@fettaheker]

When you get on the power and shift upwards it oversteers like hell

[@doubleboy2388]

People talk about the handling is better on 2020. I feel the opposite. 20 it feels like I'm driving with a yellow front wing. Too much understeer. In 19 I had much better control over the car.

[@lujolonewolf]

Bobby Bonilla Bobcat I am also having a tough time, I like the grip but corners are killing me , can’t rotate the car

[@ccramit]

I think the people that like the improved steering are wheel racers. I have a wheel, and 2020 feels so much better than 2019. He also mentions in the video that a lot of coding had been changed to prevent abusing things like downshifting to lower gears to get better turn-in on corners.

[@tristanphillips911]

The cornering to me is stiff and I understeer alot,overall really good game very well put together as a game

[@eriktheranga2410]

I haven’t really been able to get a feel for the car anywhere close to what I felt I had since f1 2013. Makes me wanna scream like Raikkonen in Canada in 2015

[@eriktheranga2410]

I have not played 2020 and I’m a naturally aspirated oversteer gear grinding kinda driver so dunno if I wanna

[@pennywise9081]

Yep 2013 has some of the best handlings among codemaster's f1 franchise. There's just so much more grip compared to previous games and you can accelerate and brake so much more confidently.

[@doubleboy2388]

People talk about the handling is better on 2020. I'm in the minority, I feel the opposite. 20 it feels like I'm driving with a yellow front wing. Too much understeer. In 19 I had much better control over the car.

[@nessy3212]

I love that game, ... to me, ... I`am a casual player, and a horrible racedriver, ... how i play: I play in casual mode with all the little helpers active you can activate, with the AI at 82% to 85%, that means when i race in F2 i really have to fight to reach the first place. i mean if i nail the laps im able to match the fastest lap of the AI,... so i go mostly at place 3-5. but one thing i miss is: in a race game where the fitting of the car is key to be able to reach good laptimes, it feels very poor that there is no total to help to find your own fitting. : /

[@Krahhf]

The fucking car won't even turn

[@elias6918]

What about dirtyair?

[@AlexGillon]

Good question, dirty air is definitely in the game, it's not as strong as real life, but that's a good thing for racing haha

[@elias6918]

@@AlexGillon What if you compare it to last game? I found it almost none existing in last year's game.

[@typicalguy2966]

Elias E I’ve heard TRL Limitless say that it is definitely noticeable in this years game

[@2Blayzar]

it just me or...in F1 2018 im with 2 sec or more faster than f1 2020....happends the same to someone ?? p.s. f1 2020 feels more faster, and feels more assisted :(

[@umosay]

codies still struggle to make trees look decent eh

[@XReflexian]

Nah, why bother making great looking trees when you should be driving so fast that you hardly see them anyway?

[@Brandonr757sGaming]

Have you seen DiRT Rally 2.0? That game is undeniably gorgeous in general. Trees included imo

[@fettaheker]

Am I the only one who thinks he has less grip in F1 2020?

[@anavgeekspassion5727]

Yes...

[@rich1701]

The idea that a sim must be “accessible” at the cost of realism makes no sense at all. There is no reason why you cannot make the best possible physics engine there is and introduce driving aids to make that accessible. This is not that unfortunately. This notion that it needs to be in the middle of road between game and sim is just an excuse not to build a new physics engine that is accurate. It’s been 10 years now and still the track surfacing is static with no real bumps that destabilise a car to force you to compromise the setup for. Tracks still have this bizarre warping undulations where cars float over with zero physical reaction. This is cartoon physics.

[@thedevil5475]

i think this explains why twitter.com/SHZ_Shadow/status/1286258150274936839 codemasters is purely money orientated, they don't care about they quality of their games at all. their only purpose is to sell a lot to casual gamers

[@jaybajan]

what track is that hes racing on?

[@Barntos]

Silverstone

[@alexanderulv3886]

It makes you FEEL like an F1 car

[@typicalguy2966]

IGN 10/10

[@rainey06au]

I've got nothing bad to say about the game, 7/10 - IGN

[@alexanderulv3886]

@@rainey06au Sometimes they also make up reasons like "Too much water" 7.8/10, or "Too little pay check, 6.3/10..

[@man_imbored171]

I get way more over steer. Is it just me?

[@gold333]

Mate, no way is F1 2020 the best handling F1 game to date. No way. I own every Codemasters F1 game from the first to 2021. All Codemasters games lack self alighning torque. Release the steering wheel when breeaking traction with the rear and the steering should come alive (self align) in any RWD car including F1. CM games have always lacked this. The steering therefore feels dead(er) much deader than what is reality. Yhe best handling F1 game ever was rf F1 1991 HE with leo FFBand realfeel at 50%. The car was alive underneath you.

[@ezraanung6869]

man... i feel kinda special now since i play on 2019 with a keyboard on 100+ ai... if you guys want proof i have a video of it on my channel

[@invaderzim7890]

Alex! Can you please make an Alonzo like return to F1 and do a my team career????

[@AlexGillon]

Definitely, I'm just leaving it a little while because everyone else is doing that atm lol

[@icecreaminc8013]

"iracing has an advanced tyre model" . you mean the one the REAL racers from all codes have shat on as bullshit tyre modeling ???

[@GoScience123]

Not big into sim racing but I thought IRacing was supposed to be like most realistic of the bunch. Whats bs ab the tire handling?

[@garysmith3068]

Iracing is not realistic. Ice racing is more appropriate. ACC is king of the hill. I'll probably DL F1 2020 regardless as I am a motorsport fan....so....yolo.

[@dovid916]

I just want VR :(

[@insideMan1981]

They realy paid you to talk good

[@AlexGillon]

I wish! 😂 I've never been paid by Codemasters, I just get a review copy like hundreds of others do

[@erica.9431]

Am I the only one who just can't get to grips with the new handling? I am just enjoying driving in 2019 way more... I am on the Xbox one with a Thrustmaster TMX Pro.

[@w3nsm693]

Talks about simracing and plays in "roof" view, what a hypocrisy.

[@carmelovespa7333]

It is much more arcadey

[@andre-jx8zk]

Why no black Mercedes?

[@machtnix1]

André probably in the coming updates since its very new and not the only thing they have to do

[@skullbantz7155]

How do you have 20k subs but struggling to pull 10k views on every average video

[@revirdkcalb]

He has been inactive for 6 months.

[@skullbantz7155]

No he posts videos and then deletes them he’s just a dead KZbinr

[@MashiatCOD99]

BroEdz At least his KZbin channel was alive at one point, unlike yours.

[@thedevil5475]

@@skullbantz7155 He originally stopped with youtube in 2017. Then a year later he started to upload casually again. Don't know what your problem is

[@oliese]

That's a good ratio. There are a lot of KZbinrs that have 1 million+ subs and don't get to 50k views