F1nn just sort of transitioning without any pushback is so funny. I wish I could have just started going around in dresses and everyone is just, like, whatever
@BabushkaCookie28887 ай бұрын
Same. World's unfair.
@azmosam45727 ай бұрын
F1nn was groomed by people in his community into becoming whatever this is.
@TheJpiscool7 ай бұрын
Yeah I feel that in my soul 😅 I live in the American south in a very redneckish/conservative area, and while it would bring me significant joy to be able to just wear skirts and blouses and be the emo/goth queen that I've become obsessed with the idea of being, I unfortunately can't. It's too scary, both on a personal level and on a safety level. Part of it is my appearance, I struggle to keep my face cleanly shaven which creates dysphoria, and I feel like my weight, especially largely being in my upper body, gets in the way of what I see as femininity for me specifically. But the rest of it is all just not feeling safe, frankly.
@DaniRadriendil7 ай бұрын
It's a damn sight easier when you're already rich from "give me money to make me dress like a girl for a day/week/month/year!"
@TheJpiscool7 ай бұрын
@@DaniRadriendil I wouldn't say that at all. Money has nothing to do with it, it's about how well they're accepted.
@mittfh7 ай бұрын
I think F1nn speed-ran much of the "Baby Trans" stage and figured out his preferred style (long hair, nail extensions, slightly feminine side of androgynous clothing) within the first year or so of "Girl Months", well before he thought "hang on, this is more than just a hobby..."
@wildstarfish37867 ай бұрын
I unironically read speedran as spedran
@hybridhubris7 ай бұрын
I think I'd go harder and girlier before I started, then I spent 6 years on hormones just being comfy, and it's so much better than trying to force it 😂
@Ophelia3817 ай бұрын
I speed-ran mine too because for years of being in the closet I knew *exactly* what look I wanted to go for and 5 years into transition it's still working for me.
@Nzargnalphabet7 ай бұрын
You know what? This reminds me of how for two years in 6-7th grade I learned cello and got good enough to play radioactive by imagine dragons on it, then just completely quit, and I really don’t regret quitting either, I would bet a million bucks that that’s how everything is gonna go in my life, including sexuality, this is why I think only now am I even starting to understand it from finn’s perspective, I never really related to anyone who went through this because everyone took it so goddamned seriously, I’ll go on the drop of a hat from writing a book on sandwiches to reciting the Torah in Swedish to making fine quality wooden spoons, and while I will get super skilled in all of those, I will literally never interact with any of those again, I am the second coming of ignaz trebitsch-Lincoln and none can stop the sporadic life I shall lead
@sylvieseeker58927 ай бұрын
The slightly less popular HRT -> trans pipeline
@ktgaming22667 ай бұрын
Honestly I think part of why F1nn's experience is so different is because they're genderfluid. I'm also genderfluid and I actually have had a very similar experience. Don't worry you're still trans 👍
@TheFiteShow7 ай бұрын
yeah, being genderfluid is really fun cuz you can get euphoria from doing agab stuff sometimes, it's so weird lol
@frishter7 ай бұрын
There's another explanation...
@Phoenixfisch7 ай бұрын
@@frishter Yeah?
@Fuxi_Fuxxx7 ай бұрын
Genderfluid perks: -unlocks ALL customization options -immune to misgendering -automatically melts hostile bigoted cishet's brains with confusion on sight
@frishter7 ай бұрын
@@Phoenixfisch That social constructs are just that. An artificial construct. With statements like "don't worry you're still trans", it shows the culture of making trans out to be an ideal. Unfortunately many people prioritise words they want to hear over what they need to hear.
@girlwithaguitar247 ай бұрын
I know this is more of a term with Gen Z, but F1NN 100% strikes me as a "bruh" girl. It's an archetype that still presents feminine, but also doesn't hesitate to be boisterous, loud, and curt with their behavior.
@Literally_a_Moth7 ай бұрын
So autistic?
@Snowmelt_Forever7 ай бұрын
"Bruh Girl" love that lmaoooo
@Sp00kq7 ай бұрын
Good thing both of them fall into early gen z
@amandaduckett30937 ай бұрын
ah, yes. the Tomboy. Never heard bruh girl but when I was a kid/ teen I was always 'accused' of being a *gasp* tomboy cause I had mostly guy friends and played rough. Now I'm a non binary lesbian lol
@ImmortalRose-my6vi7 ай бұрын
A, I love that archetype, but hate that it exists since that literally just means there's an expectation against it. B, I am totally at least partly a bruh girl, although as other comments mentioned, before Gen Z we called that a tomboy and I personally prefer one word instead of two lmao
@casketbace7 ай бұрын
I need a scene with funny cartoon music where you two are chasing each other around the room because its so BIG
@RiggerMantis7 ай бұрын
That or "Yakety Sax".
@casketbace7 ай бұрын
@@RiggerMantis YES
@EeeDee17 ай бұрын
so much room for activities
@katlinath7 ай бұрын
- am i a dumbass? - ARE YOU A DOG?
@Bokatisha12347 ай бұрын
Finn is NOT fighting the puppybrain allegations
@hammerth14217 ай бұрын
I think Finn had all those feelings, but a long time ago on stream before he figured out that he is genderfluid. Now, he's just existing on HRT.
@theoneandonlyAeth7 ай бұрын
Yeah that's my guess, he's had several years of streaming to process and work through all those feelings and by now he's dressed feminine so much that it doesn't give him euphoria, it's just normal.
@SnowLily067 ай бұрын
@theoneandonlyAeth yeah I don't think gender euphoria exists after a few years because you are just living as your gender there's nothing new or special giving you gender euphoria. Finn has basically been living as gender fluid for years but just didn't have the label till now
@GenericName00427 ай бұрын
@@SnowLily06the thing with gender euphoria is that, for a cis person, that's usually just...baseline. There's not a constant, back-of-your-head dislike about...well, everything about your appearance and how people treat you. But when you transition, the differences feel *right* in a way that you simply have never felt before, so the contrast makes it so much more obvious.
@Ashleydemartinssoares7 ай бұрын
F1nn5ter and icky are the best couple ever
@sagethevvitch7 ай бұрын
My parasocial ass will cry if anything ever happens lol
@brazil-cat7 ай бұрын
I've never been this parasocial with a couple lmao
@rebeccasam34347 ай бұрын
They are SO much fun!
@rebeccasam34347 ай бұрын
@@sagethevvitch Yeah, for real lol Sorry you two, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BREAK UP lol
@eggisfun42177 ай бұрын
@@brazil-cat real, i hate all celebrity relationship shit and online relationships in general but this one actually i love and grahhhhhh
@DGAMINGDE7 ай бұрын
Finn essentially being like"I don't feel gender euphoria I just enjoy what vibes well" is great an very relatable XD
@thotmorgana7 ай бұрын
I think Finn is doing the things that would give gender euphoria without him connecting it to a gender related thing. He likes crosdressing but he doesnt need to be an actual girl to wear the girly clothes. I think if expressing feminine traits like dressing and other related things we now associate with gender would be more normalised than a lot more people could be like Finn. I think I would be like Finn, I wanna wear those cute clothes but could fluid from both sides. But because I feel like there is such a taboo on doing the things that are associated with being for girls you could end up with the conclusion that you need to transition just because you like doing and experiencing certain things that are associated with the other gender when in my mind they should not need to be. Normalise femboys, wearing dresses and skirts and being cute or feminine without the taboo and we could all live a happy life.
@thotmorgana7 ай бұрын
In my case particularly I feel like from the male perspective I am very limited in what I can do and dress and express but I feel as a girl I would be able to do both. If I could do both while being a male it would make me pretty much like finn I think.
@SebastianKrabs7 ай бұрын
Icky: "Does anything give you euphoria?" F1nn: "Have you heard of fetch? THROW THE STICK!"
@titanuranus30955 ай бұрын
That is SO fetch!
@oxoniumgirl7 ай бұрын
it's interesting watching F1nn struggle to recognize and assess his feelings without at all recognizing that he's just not good at talking about or recognizing his feelings. immediately leaps to conclusions and probably had a crisis when it seems like the answer for him is just "feelings are hard and idk how to handle them yet". Also, I'm not genderfluid but a lot of genderfluid folks express having trouble solidly delineating their dysphoria and euphoria.
@TrippyGame7 ай бұрын
Go figure gender fluid people have trouble with solids :p
@kayla84027 ай бұрын
weird little day to day mental resistances send me straight into "I'm fake" mode so makes sense to me, even when I know that isn't right.
@atoucangirl7 ай бұрын
it might be some of the content brain, or just joking becaue he's used to joke about his gender, and he's throwing the commentary on the fly so we're getting his first reactions to a lot of these questions. he's also had a very different experience to most trans people. that being said yeah he's not very good about talking about it.
@IvyHale1517 ай бұрын
Enby baby here, Finn the gender euphoria of throwing Big Stick is an unmistakable and special feeling Ashley your laughter is beautiful your euBOREia is so valid thanks for the fun and relatable video
@scalesconfrey57397 ай бұрын
@ville__ You have one dog-shite 40-second video, and a 1-minute short (ironically longer) of you stepping all over a pride flag--wtf are you on about?
@platypushatstand2 ай бұрын
That also applies if you’re cis and letting out your inner cave person every once in a while, usually at the beach (me) when I didn’t realise I could throw something (rock, stick) as far as it actually (surprisingly) went.
@RandySavarese7 ай бұрын
So to add something to the Finn is genderfluid thing, as someone who is also autistic/adhd it adds another layer of complexity to the experience. When you don't experience life the way allistic people do, when your baseline experience is different, it can often be challenging to see how you fit in. Alexithymia, which a lot of us struggle with, throws even more complexity on the situation.
@lifaen7 ай бұрын
So true
@huihuihuihuihuihui17 ай бұрын
Icky is adhd btw :3
@thisolddown7 ай бұрын
🤙🏻same
@IsuiGtz7 ай бұрын
This is the real answer. Same here.
@gregoryvn36 ай бұрын
@ville__Liar
@SomeGalNamedEve7 ай бұрын
It's awesome to see how different trans experiences can be! I personally never went through a "baby trans phase" like so many people did. I tried out a lot of feminine stuff, and a lot of it was nice, but it was never an "Oh my god this is amazing, I'm never going back again" I honestly just wear whatever I want, no matter whether it's more feminine or more masculine. I like to joke that the trans girl in me and the lesbian in me are constantly arguing over what to wear lol
@rebeccasam34347 ай бұрын
That end part made me giggle 😅
@SomeGalNamedEve7 ай бұрын
@@rebeccasam3434 I'm glad, I've been waiting for an excuse to use that LOL
@SunIsLost5 ай бұрын
Yea
@PowhaBottom7 ай бұрын
I just had my appointment to start HRT and i get my medice today! Yall have been such a good source of knowledge and entertainment! Love yall🥰 Nearly 3 months latey, and i couldnt be happier in life!
@anoukk_7 ай бұрын
I put on my first E patch an hour ago and I can't sit stilll
@PowhaBottom7 ай бұрын
@@anoukk_ im also starting with the patches, then later i want to switch to the pills once my body starts to adjust
@PowhaBottom7 ай бұрын
@ville__ toxic.. which is why nobody flocks to you😒
@rebeccasam34347 ай бұрын
@@PowhaBottom I couldn’t even figure out what they were talking about.
@rebeccasam34347 ай бұрын
@@anoukk_ yay! Congratulations! I started on patches and was able to flip without a blocker, but I was on a joke dose for five months, it took 0.3 mg in my case although that can vary
@CommissionerManu7 ай бұрын
Icky out here untransing Finn’s gender like some Greek god messing with a mortal for the umpteenth time
@kyleberry_sr7 ай бұрын
you both validate my status as a trans person in the most interesting ways, simply thank you for being yourselves
@Aura-Of-Syrinx7 ай бұрын
these videos are euphoric
@DirtbagLexi7 ай бұрын
Aww, you guys are so cute! Being trans is completely different person to person, I feel like not everyone does those stereotypical baby trans things.
@SomeGalNamedEve7 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely!! I do like wearing skirts, but it's because they're comfy, they don't actually give me any euphoria. I don't really get euphoria or dysphoria from clothes at all, I just wear whatever looks and feels nice no matter whether it's more feminine or more masculine. I like to say that the trans girl in me and the lesbian in me are constantly arguing over what clothes to wear lol
@rrainjacket7 ай бұрын
After watching icky for the past few months, all of my previous dysphoria made so much more sense in retrospect. My egg is cracked.
@iiiiitsmagreta12407 ай бұрын
WOOOOOOOOO!!!! 🏳⚧💖💖💖
@thisolddown7 ай бұрын
You have been defeated by the Boss.
@arikm84307 ай бұрын
I think part of it is that F1nn has been expressing themselves like this for a while. Most people don't socially transition in a way that F1nn did.
@flamingscar52637 ай бұрын
4:53 this is 100% the masculine side of F1nn There's something about just throwing a big stick that anyone with any degree of masculinity will know just hits
@DGAMINGDE7 ай бұрын
"Speak softly and carry a big stick" Wait that was TR.
@rebeccasam34347 ай бұрын
I was wondering about that. I mean I wonder if it literally is true kind of. I was not relating to what he was saying 😅
@johnwalker10587 ай бұрын
I was "yeah, felt that" (though I was surprised that Finn didn't also mention the inexplicable joy/satisfaction of chucking a big-a*s rock into a body of water and watching it make a big splash).
@arsena52097 ай бұрын
the masculine urge to find a big stick and throw it (I'm a woman but I have a very cool stick in my drawer that I found 4 years ago and still own)
@Eloraurora4 ай бұрын
@@DGAMINGDETBF, you could make a decent argument that TR didn't get full access to his masculinity as a boy (because of the asthma) and his subsequent DO ALL THE MAN THINGS fervor is spiritually akin to the baby trans femme desire to DO ALL THE GIRLY THINGS.
@MisaMapache7 ай бұрын
I just love Ashley talking about very personal things that she experienced and Finn talking about how cool is to throw a stick very far away. 🤣🤣🤣
@realryal7 ай бұрын
That "Stooop...!" as Ashley keeps pulling out Finn's pink items
@rebeccasam34347 ай бұрын
That was hilarious. Where she rolls Finn’s pink chair in to view, and keeps going 😅
@Dude-pk7fk7 ай бұрын
I will add that cisgender individuals can feel gender euphoria. Finn being genderfluid (which is a nonbinary identity, which is then a transgender identity) could feel gender euphoria from throwing a stick quite far. Gender euphoria (and, in turn, gender dysphoria) is different for everyone and can mean different things.
@Dude-pk7fk6 ай бұрын
@lif6737 please explain? I am sorry, but I couldn't tell if u were adding to my comment or contesting something I was saying./gen
@DrWarbird7 ай бұрын
Whoa that ending was harsh. The panic in F1nn's eyes. Can't blame him. Better lock that down. Both of you.
@rebeccasam34347 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh, I’m so terrible I would be so excited for… Forget these royal weddings, I want this wedding 😅 I’m terrible, like they should do whatever is right for them, but I so hope this works out, the two of them are so adorable
@Ayse-x8d3u7 ай бұрын
F1nn is right about the stick thing, tho. When you get that BEEFY twirl on thick branch and it goes far. monkee brain happy.
@sayven7 ай бұрын
I love how they got like three questions in until F1nn got a gender crisis
@Learn_The_Cube7 ай бұрын
It's so funny seeing their dynamic because it perfectly encapsulates how there are infinitely many types of trans people living their own unique lives
@SunIsLost5 ай бұрын
Yea
@merror-fx8cn7 ай бұрын
The normal wearable outfit thing makes all the sense- Finn's whole deal for like multiple years has been wearing these exaggerated femboy looks, usually contributed by subscibers who want to see him in them, mostly in pink- and for part of that time was explicitly gendering himself as Not Trans Regular Boy. As a fellow genderfluid: I have had to wear highly gendered work drag in both masculine and feminine modes where my internal sense of gender was less important than the implicit or explicit dress code, and as a result that whole range of styling doesn't make me feel as much like I am getting the pink or blue fuzzies as things suited to my evolving senses of my genders. Sometimes when your job is pink pink becomes something else, and that's interesting and complicated!
@Secretajianman7 ай бұрын
I transitioned while already married and we stayed together. Also, I was pretty far into my career. I kind of skipped a lot of these out of pure necessity. Now I do my best to live my tomboy lesbian life
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos7 ай бұрын
Yo stop posting my personal info online :P
@RhymesWithHannah7 ай бұрын
A term I've been using for a while now is "Gender Euthymia". Euthymia is the psych term for the neutral baseline state that is just generally positive. I find that most of the trans people I speak to who are a number of years into their gender journey primarily experience their gender through Euthymia. They don't have as many instances of "This triggers a sense of overwhelming happiness in me" but they just have an everyday feeling of "The things in my life that align with my gender just feel right to me and generally positive".
@iaincoombes46147 ай бұрын
Just love all your work ash , you two crack me up
@callnight14417 ай бұрын
Try rewording that last part, mate🤣
@ABoxOfCartonJuice7 ай бұрын
I too get crapped up when I see them both
@voltijuice85767 ай бұрын
How about: "Gender Euphoria to Gender Eubiquity"? One reason why I quit being stealth was that I discovered that wearing tights or stockings alleviated my knee pain, and I had no interest in suffering to appear "normal". There is both a tactile and visual euphoria to this, it's cheaper and easier to style lots of combos with skirt or shorts for vast wardobe variety. Part of that process was that I quit wearing cotton almost entirely, as it just doesn't feel as good to me as most other fabrics.
@sophiepooks21747 ай бұрын
Same here, also I am starting to sag in places too, even though haven't seen any women where I live wearing stockings, skirts or dresses for the last 8-9 years at least, however it is what feels good to me, the dirty looks off some women and attention of the occasional man can be annoying, as i am not seeking attention, wearing anything age inappropriate, too revealing, or trying to stand out, but just wearing what feels good for me. I ignore as much as possible, I am old now so don't really care for the opinions of random passers by, I can't control whatever any assume about me from the clothing I like, but there should be less societal pressure to fit into a narrow idea of normality, that you will otherwise be disrespected/harassed if you don't look the same as everyone else.
@arsena52097 ай бұрын
works great for increasing blood flow when it's not enough for example when flying in a plane, I wonder if that's why it alleviates knee pain? or there's another effect of tight material worn on legs that I'm not aware of. makes me wonder if this would have helped the terrible leg pains I used to get for years since I was a kid until a few years ago if I had known sooner :/
@arsena52097 ай бұрын
@@sophiepooks2174 you don't have to listen to my advice but maybe you could try wearing long, flowy skirts to hide tights or stockings if you don't do that already? my bad if you already do or if you don't feel the need for that 😊
@KensaiProductions7 ай бұрын
Being sexualized = eeewphoria
@arsena52097 ай бұрын
I can see why it would give euphoria in the beginning - by being recognised as a woman by people who find women attractive. But yeah it's not ideal, you can be attractive and seen as a woman without being sexualised
@fluffierfool47 ай бұрын
i love how short finn looks in the new room
@jasonmorley92177 ай бұрын
"Is there nothing on this earth that gives you gender euphoria?" Editor's depiction of F1nn's thoughts: "... stick"
@Xirenec_7 ай бұрын
"are you a dog?" F1nn confirmed to be a puppy-girl
@akooatic7 ай бұрын
Nahh the editor went crazyy with this one 🔥🔥
@DrJaneLuciferian7 ай бұрын
F1nn falling into transness backward is so F1nn. He needs proper trans house training ;^)
@Empiricist147 ай бұрын
I don't know which is more awesome here, the editing, the humour ("have you thought that your life is full of sorrow?" / "are you a dog?" 😂😂😂😂😂) or the two of you as you are ❤
@chriscanul40757 ай бұрын
Icky was finally let into the strim room
@impishlyit97807 ай бұрын
"Have you ever considered that maybe your life is filled with sorrow?" is such a killer response lmao.
@realryal7 ай бұрын
4:08 Finn getting rotated will always be funny
@WellRoundedWoodsman6 ай бұрын
F1nn is an absolute hero! Just live your life is the message I receive from all of your videos. You 2 come across as just SO HAPPY! You 2 live on a higher plane of existence and thank you so so much for sharing your lives with us!
@mairaineplayzgames22057 ай бұрын
the editing really saved this video, the editor deserves a raise!
@Futurebound_jpg5 ай бұрын
As a cis woman i get hella gender euphoria from painting my nails black. No other color makes me feel so feminine and gorgeous. I literally cant stop looking at my pretty hands when my nails are painted black! I know “gender euphoria” is typically only for trans people but idk how else id describe it
@BedaGenre7 ай бұрын
I've never seen you giggling before. It's so adorable ❤
@Skylikesavation7 ай бұрын
Finn might have avoided certain parts of the early phase due to having worn that sort of stuff a lot for streams beforehand
@Luna_out7 ай бұрын
Loved the video editing, it gave me gender euphoria, like, literally!!!
@QALibrary7 ай бұрын
I think this is the best video between you two - I learnt a lot
@fifidosch28677 ай бұрын
"I don't have dysphoria days. I just deal with it. Like a man." 😂😂😂
@SvenS27 ай бұрын
4:09 that caught me off guard 😂
@muddymudkip157 ай бұрын
I never thought of being seen as weak being euphoric, but it's definitely the case for me now that I think about it. And painted nails are the absolute best. Super cute video!
@UmbralKitten7 ай бұрын
1) i never really associated pink with feminine so that didn't really do anything for me. 2) i hate dresses but skirts are fun. Haven't actually worn any out in public though. 3) I've never liked kneesocks or thigh highs but leggings/tights/pantyhose are nice. 4) i've never liked the sexualized part even before transitioning 5) haven't done anything with nails but I want to (work issues) 6) i completely agree with the being treated as weak thing. It just feels nice to not be expected to do all the manual labor 😂 7) i also agree with fin on normal outfits making me feel more euphoric than anything.
@whalium8896 ай бұрын
Yeah being sexualized is icky. I’ve actually watched this video before but I came back to it cuz I really like Finn’s aesthetic with big tee and big pants and wanted to copy it
@Taigan_HSE7 ай бұрын
My first experience with gender euphoria was actually at least a decade before my egg cracked. And it’s only looking back at it that I realize it was gender euphoria. But sometime after I got out of college, I decided I didn’t want to use a backpack to carry my stuff around anymore.after some shopping, I ended up with a “satchel.” Just a small little bag I could wear over my shoulder. And it gave me such a positive feeling to have it. I didn’t know why at the time.
@orphanmeat4sale247 ай бұрын
Still can't get over the fact "how beautiful finn's hair looks.
@moonphase4207 ай бұрын
F1nn has gender euphoria, he just is always in that gender euphoric state. Once his brain matures with the HRT he will realise that some of those things do not bring him as much joy as they used to. I am going through a very similar thing, except when I moved I was unable to be as open with my gender as I used to be able to be. This caused me to notice and realise that some certain things would bring me joy but I would soon "grow" out of them.
@AchillesArachne7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Dalenthas7 ай бұрын
As a fellow genderfluid, I have also had those "what if I'm not actually trans?" moments. Then I remember that there are days when I have the opposite thought - what if I'm just a girl and "genderfluid" is just an excuse to not commit fully. Then I figure they balance out and I've figured out my identity pretty well, self-doubt be Damned.
@richardellis45837 ай бұрын
This was just a cute video it's really sweet how you both are with each other 💕💕
@Toni-lo9ms7 ай бұрын
Had to delete the thing I was gonna do about my own euphoria cause the stuff Icky's talking about I mainly haven't gotten to experience. Pink, yes it does. The whole not being as strong thing... yeah it feels good not being the manly man me open jars and lift heavy objects type. Also, getting ma'am instead of sir. Every time
@creditsong73697 ай бұрын
Gonna start petitioning for F1nn to look into being agender. I'm agender and I feel very similar to how F1nn describes being trans. But that's just me personally
@SteelEcky7 ай бұрын
I think he's said he's not Agender during the coming out stream.
@pythosdegothos61817 ай бұрын
Would this just be Gender non conforming. EG, raising a middle finger to sexist gender stereotypes, norms and rules? Cause that is how I see myself. For as long as I have been conscious I have preferred so called "feminine" looks and styles, and some activities. I always though preventing people from doing many things due to their being a boy or girl was asinine. Today, I just wear what I want if the setting permits (and even if it doesn't, I still push those boundaries since really they should not exist.) So much of what Icky was listing off were there same stereotoypes. I think finn is showing that it is reaction towards open GNC kids or people is what leads to pressures to "blend in" by identifying as the gender that more aligns to those stereotypes.
@creditsong73697 ай бұрын
@@pythosdegothos6181 GNC is a gender presentation. Agender is a gender identity. You can present hyper feminine or hyper masculine and still be agender. I think that with F1nn current label of genderfuilt, Icky is expecting her to relate to the more girly stuff when in "girl mode." But agender people don't have "girl mode" or "boy mode," we just have no gender. So we can wear super girly stuff and still feel no attachment to the girl gender. Hence the lack of gender euphoria. But it can still be fun and our preference in gender presentation. That's why I personally would like to see F1nn explore the term. But I'm by no means trying to invalidate F1nn's current identity of genderfuild. There are many different ways to be genderfuild, and I'm not going to say that F1nn is incorrect. I just relate to him as an agender person and since there seemed to be second thoughts in this video, I thought I'd present an alternative term.
@pythosdegothos61817 ай бұрын
@@creditsong7369 " But agender people don't have "girl mode" or "boy mode," we just have no gender. So we can wear super girly stuff and still feel no attachment to the girl gender." This sounds like myself, and that is the point of confusion. To me identifying as another gender just seems pointless. Why not broaden what presenting as a male, or as a female actually entails.
@patrickhector7 ай бұрын
Genuine question, I think gender is kinda overrated as hell, and feel like it's only some portion of the population that actually gives two shits what gender they are (and some sub-portion that happen to have the wrong body for their identity), does that imply that I'm actually just agender? I just sorta am not super attached to the concept of gender, I don't even care enough to insist I'm NB and just roll with masculine presentation usually out of convenience
@liamwatts85977 ай бұрын
Okay okay... but I genuinely have SO much fun watching your content! You bring joy to this world! Love you both!❤
@SnowLily067 ай бұрын
People are discussing Finn not really feeling dysphoria or euphoria so let me throw my hat in the ring with a weird and hyper specific analogy. So two of my friends at one point became extremely close with each other and were in a roleplay game together where they had their characters dating. After a few months they started dating (literally everyone knew they liked each other before they did) but because they had already been so close and roleplaying characters who were dating not a lot changed because they had basically been dating for months even if they didn't realise it. Thats basically how I see Finn's thing. He spent so long living as a gender fluid person already just without the label that now he has the label people think she's in his "baby trans phase" when actually he's been doing this for years so he doesn't feel things like gender euphoria or dysphoria because she's gone past that phase of being trans. Obviously that's just a theory of a random youtube viewer I don't claim to know Finn's feelings better than him.
@rebeccasam34347 ай бұрын
OK, I’ve never heard of anything like that happening and I absolutely adore it. 😂
@ChrisTay2297 ай бұрын
Shouldve asked F1nn if being compared to Karen Gillan causes gender euphoria 😄
@it-s-a-mystery7 ай бұрын
How is finn even a real person, it's such a strange arc in the best way.
@bucephalus007 ай бұрын
This is my favourite video of you two so far.
@technonine75867 ай бұрын
These videos bring me so much comfort
@daved23527 ай бұрын
ASHLEY YOU CAN'T JUST ASK SOMEONE FROM BIRMINGHAM IF THEIR LIFE IS FILLED WITH SADNESS the answer is yes
@T4N77 ай бұрын
My mom's ex was the first father figure I had in my life since my dad left when I was really lil, so I always considered him my dad n we r still close after 25+ yrs of them not being together. He found some old photos from when I was a kid n 1 was from a camping trip n he mentioned that he was pretty sure he had bought me the giant t-shirt I was wearing in the pic at some farage sale or something. My response was, "awe, I think that was probably my first dress." To which he responded "😂 lil did we know." "I like to throw a big stick." "R u a dog?" Confirmed, F1nn is a furry
@ericspace1217 ай бұрын
I remember incorporating pink into my male outfits using the excuse "it's manly to wear pink" I didn't know what gender dysphoria was at the time or why exactly I wanted to wear pink other than wanting to not be limited with colors but here I am now taking estrogen lmao
@rebeccasam34347 ай бұрын
I remember one time for back to school I wanted a pink shirt, and asked my mom for it and she shot it down. I didn’t know WHY I wanted it I mean it wasn’t about the pink per se, just what it represented, and there was a part of me that needed it.
@PpProblems4 ай бұрын
0:58 (For Context: I'm A Pansexual Man) The Semi Confused Looks From Both Of You Are SO GODDAMN CUTE! You Two Were Made For Each Other! I Hope I Find Someone This Wholesome To Be With One Day!
@BrookeB4Midnight7 ай бұрын
The euphoria for me feels like a hot buzzy feeling in the center of my chest that radiates out. It literally feels like sunlight in my chest.
@papads-chan51197 ай бұрын
I'm only halfway in the video 5:33 but damm.... i check ALL THE BOXES. im 20 Mtf -I literally only use mini/short skirts and dresses -Aways wearing tighights/kneesocks AND arm warmers -I aways paint my nails either black or red. basically never stopped since i started (I'm 2 and a half years into HRT) -I'm by far the weakest human being on earth and i LOVE it :3
@papads-chan51197 ай бұрын
Well and basically all my clothes are goth. If she said something like this i would be concerned lmfao
@Negan_smith_did_nothing-wrong7 ай бұрын
0:19 Eminem been real quiet since this dropped
@H.N.I.C_Hennessy7 ай бұрын
Awe, you 2 are so cute together 😊
@iaincoombes46147 ай бұрын
Thanks
@tracygeddes58677 ай бұрын
So funny,you guys just hit euphoria out of the park!
@SpiffingTiff7 ай бұрын
My source of euphoria today: giving fashion advice to my female partner. She even thanked me and learned something. ❤
@swguygardner7 ай бұрын
Finn's got Canine Euphoria, with his stick thing XD
@hammerth14217 ай бұрын
Nah, it's just masculine euphoria. It basically demonstrates that Finn is genderfluid and not a trans woman.
@GothGirl07 ай бұрын
@@hammerth1421 Genderfluid is Trans and Finn has said they Trans He/She pronouns. Finn's experience is just not typical. Taking HRT is literally changing your body to that of female, breast development etc.
@lilithsspawn7 ай бұрын
@@GothGirl0 read again. They said f1nn is not a trans woman, not that f1nn isn't trans
@GothGirl07 ай бұрын
@@lilithsspawnI have read what they wrote and that's their opinion.
@Maxi_947 ай бұрын
I think this is one of the funniest videos on your channel. Your dynamic is an absolute joy to watch. ☺
@Sage-uq6em5 ай бұрын
"Am I a dumbass?" "ARE YOU A DOG?" lmao
@glamfishy7 ай бұрын
I feel so called out rn the thigh highs in the thumbnail are literally the pair I own 💪😭
@jackaustin95617 ай бұрын
I love how just like 6 months ago if you even hinted that finn might be non gender conforming would get you cancelled and ostrichsized and now their just like "yeah I mean duh"
@zakmarsh31507 ай бұрын
Gender euphoria for the win, it is so life affirming 🖤
@sophomorphia7 ай бұрын
00:56 “Feels good, little treat.” My heart, my soul 😊
@Cassiii337 ай бұрын
I know comments like this can be pretty annoying but I was having a shitty day and being able to watch a new Icky vid helped put me in a better mood
@_koraki7 ай бұрын
I’m genderfluid and can confirm, throwing a big stick IS euphoric :3
@dillonshirey80765 ай бұрын
Can we all agree that finn is at least happy with who he is? It doesn't matter what other people may say he is or isn't, but only he truly knows and he seems content with life.
@Aerational7 ай бұрын
Finn is shrinking away before our very eyes
@bridgetteryan58767 ай бұрын
When I first transitioned (as a much older person than Icky or F1nn), I got a small amount of gender euphoria as men at work started gaslighting me, talking over me, cutting me off, etc. that quickly wore off as I started living daily the bullshit every other woman in a professional field does.
@QALibrary7 ай бұрын
I think Chat made F1n have a baby trans phase very early on - I am surprised they did not bully him & her into having a pink bedroom in this house when he said he brought it
@pensive85527 ай бұрын
I like honest F1nn is, and how little pressure F1nn feels to "get on board." That reads to me like being comfortable ☺️
@SomeGalNamedEve7 ай бұрын
1:35 That simple "oh" says so much LMAO
@samsonokland86517 ай бұрын
I love seein f1nn in ashleys videos
@rebeccasam34347 ай бұрын
Yeah, I love when they’re in each other’s videos. And tank the chaser also!
@floralpoboop7 ай бұрын
about a year after accepting but 4 months on hrt. Things that give me euphoria your questions: Pink: Yes but always liked pink always will. skirts and dresses: Yes but not too mini. thigh highs: only go to knees for me, they did at start now they are okay I still like them but not much euphoria Sexualized: Always have been oddly because way too damn tall and I hate it Nails: Painting them yeah People thinking I can't do taskes: I can't most of the time also yes. My own experiences: Picking/making female characters in games Wearing purses/handbags Booba growth doing crap about the dysphoria Makeup A lot of first time experiences as a women Flashbacks of obvious signs that I should have definitly realized that hey I am definitly 100% not cis nor ever have been Being called woman she/her/ feminine pronouns Being called prefered name that I really want to change legal name to but lack money to do so yet. Using prefered name on myself, I kinda really hated my deadname to begin with, it sucks as a name and comes from a terrible book I would sooner burn made by a hateful group of people who use said book to justify hate of us LGBT+ people Geeze I am older than you, and there is a lot of Trans people I know irl who watch your content and look up to you and they are much older than me. A lot of trans people watch your content of all ages and it is really nice meeting people who are older and trans as they are a bit more wiser it seems like. But its also nice seeing people who are younger than you, smarter, and still wiser because they are further along on the journey they just started before you did type of ordeal. I had a lot of issues with accepting myself and a lot of older trans people did because the times and envirorments we all grew up in. Also the lies we must defeat inorder to start loving and accepting ourselfs. Like a lot of our culture is based in lies, and things we may think are truths are actually lies. Repressing also really really sucks.
@arandolph8467 ай бұрын
I appreciate this cuz I've been out for years and no longer do a bunch of the things that gave me gender euphoria and kinda felt weird about not caring enough to do them still
@kailashbtw91037 ай бұрын
100% on the miniskirt phase haha. They are still GREAT fashion item, but I have other fun stuff to wear.