Fa-jing, Explosive Power: Erle's lessons part 10

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Moontagu

Moontagu

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@vinapare
@vinapare 3 жыл бұрын
Most practical explanation on fa-jing. I'm following Erle since a decade. He was a true master.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it really is amazing how many people prefer the idea of fajing being magic ✨
@cravarc
@cravarc 2 ай бұрын
I sure wish Erle were still around. He must still be missed terribly.
@alwilliams2781
@alwilliams2781 5 жыл бұрын
I trained with old Mont in the 80s and 90s very few had real power like he had then, trying to transfer knowledge from a film clip is hard, Mont always bagged other arts yet at the same time was open to many different people, don't forget we are all only human
@umairabbassukhera3803
@umairabbassukhera3803 8 жыл бұрын
Your father inspired me to pursue Tai chi and Dim mak! Keep up the great work bro and hopefully i could train with you some day
@caty9995
@caty9995 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Love this video. I get what your dad is saying and it makes so much sense to me. I can't believe how much I'm beginning to understand all of this. At first I was a little confused but from watching and listening instead of jumping in and practicing right away has helped me to understand the mindset of this type of martial art. So , a big thumbs up to you and your dad Eli .
@todo8328
@todo8328 6 жыл бұрын
15:50 what a beautiful lesson for me. I tried it and my thumb accidentally scratched my finger because my hand was so loose and the aim wasn’t controlled, because I relinquished intent/force.
@domeuno
@domeuno Жыл бұрын
Grande Erle ! io pratico il tuo sistema e posso dire che funziona veramente......un saluto e grazie, ovunque tu sia...
@soulmage9
@soulmage9 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eli your Dad is a great man, I am Practicing BajiQuan, Hsing I and Cheng Style Baguazhang in Victoria atm.
@soulmage9
@soulmage9 3 жыл бұрын
I Love this clip what a fountain of martial knowledge !
@Blaqk_8298
@Blaqk_8298 5 жыл бұрын
*_R.I.P. MASTER ERLE MONTAIGUE._*
@TonyqTNT
@TonyqTNT 5 жыл бұрын
Angelo Dundee, Muhammad Ali's boxing trainer, was quoted as saying a powerful right hand punch is correctly attained by rotating back the left shoulder. I know he wasn't practicing Fa-Jing: or maybe he was...???
@thundertonepj
@thundertonepj 7 жыл бұрын
One thing he's not telling is the penetration depth while maintaining the same speed of delivery and retraction...the object with practice is increasing the penetration depth physically while not detracting from the retraction speed upon delivery...from the same delivery distance.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally agree :-) There's a lot more than just that he's not telling as well, but there's only so much you can fit into 20 minutes :-)
@todo8328
@todo8328 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@AB-ee5tb
@AB-ee5tb 8 жыл бұрын
if one learns to feel/fill their dan tien on their own, could one also start to learn you and your fathers style of tai chi through your videos? i know erle said its almost impossible, thats obvious bc its an internal art. also what do you recommend to take these steps?
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 8 жыл бұрын
+gabe del angel Hi Gabe, what Dad means by it being almost impossible, is trying to teach Fa jing on it's own in one video. The way to learn Fa jing is through the learning of a system that it's part of, like the Old Yang Style. So if you asked if you can just learn Fa jing from our videos, I would say no, but you can learn it though training of the system. So start yourself off with the Yang Lu-chan form, and Small San Sau here www.taijiworld.com/learn-tai-chi-online.html If you've got someone to train with, then learn single push hands as well. Regards, Eli
@symbolsarenotreality4595
@symbolsarenotreality4595 5 жыл бұрын
mechanically the diaphragm shakes the whole body, you can practice this by lying down and developing a spring like tension in your diaphragm by relaxing it. Its a paradoxical feeling as you relax it the tension builds to the point where it wants to release the kinetic force in the form of shaking or a singular explosion, your blood pressure also raises as you draw the tension in the diaphragm, so you can condition the membranes and fascia of your body but you have to be careful lol
@emptyandcold24
@emptyandcold24 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously he has never been exposed to okinawan systems of karate/tuidi. Drawing the hand back (hikite) is (usually) an expression of pulling your opponent in. You maintain a relaxed state until impact. Also, every technique starts from the ground, utilizing a complete kinetic chain. The tension in practice is used as a means to hardwire the neurosystem into muscle memory. While a very knowledgeable master of his style, his understanding of other system seems to be limited.
@emptyandcold24
@emptyandcold24 2 жыл бұрын
Also... Striking from the hip is a practice method. If you can strike from the hip, and make contact, you can do so from a "hands up" defensive posture. I apologize if my comments seem confrontational. I have nothing but the deepest respect for you and your skill set.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 2 жыл бұрын
No I totally agree with you mate. My father was an amazing man in si many ways, but he had a very bad habit of putting down other styles to boost his own, when in most cases he did not have enough knowledge on those other arts to have a position to comment.
@cplim4842
@cplim4842 3 ай бұрын
How come I can do it with zero distance from the target. I can use my knuckles, palm, back of palm, elbow, shoulder, head? Plus, no one I personally know can do it until they are able to relax/song enough. Then my Tai Chi Chuan teacher told me better to focus on relax/song and if I use this explosive strike on someone whose ability to song/relax, I will be easily be destroyed. That was in 1995. Thus, I don't use this explosive strike anymore.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 3 ай бұрын
@@cplim4842 hmmm, that’s really hard to answer without seeing how you strike. If you were using extreme tension to develop the power, you might have a lot of power, but could be off balance or over committing, that would then make sense what your teacher said. But like I said it’s really impossible for me to know how you are training without seeing you it. If you have some videos you can share I’d be happy to take a look.
@Kane-ez
@Kane-ez Жыл бұрын
R.i.p.
@walkonthewooside
@walkonthewooside 4 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with Erle's translation of fajin as explosive power accurate, that would be pao jin, fa means send I'm not going to try and translate jin. I'm guessing he didn't speak Chinese did his final teacher speak any English? Eli do you think Erle's ideas about fajin were his own or came from his teachers?
@mikescoladeviousmike6377
@mikescoladeviousmike6377 7 жыл бұрын
i learnt how to throw punches effortlessly now, i dont know if i can call it fa jin, my hands are completely relaxed, i can punch kinda hard holding a banana and not ruining it, meaning im not using muscles, my strikes make snapping sounds like you hear in movies, but i only really learnt to feel that sensitivity in my hands only so i doubt its fa jin......i was only able once to drastically push someone back and frightening them with no effort or hardly any movement, they where rolling around on the floor laughing and trying to shake off the charge, that was fa jin but i have not mastered it and after that experience i seriously understand now and dont want to ever hurt someone again, how can i meet up with people to train more efficiently as i am only person i know who is interested in learning but has no support really...
@mikescoladeviousmike6377
@mikescoladeviousmike6377 7 жыл бұрын
also i was wondering, is it possible to do a pushup without muscle tension? i have felt the empty space before, breaking rules in form and essentially auto moveing to appropriate positions faster than i can decide to or think of even why i moved there, letting the energy guide me, but i dont always enter this mindstate, so i seriously am asking if you can do a pushup using fajin, with no muscle tension, even though it might sound like a ridiculous question, i think it would help me understand some of the limits or understanding the true aspect of what we are trying to develop.. thank you
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael. The answer for me would be no, you see Fajing should not push someone backwards, if you have pushed someone backwards a great deal then it is not fajing, it should be an explosive movement that causes very little backward movement, it should rather shake the person who has been hit. Therefore you could not use it to do a push up, as a push up requires a large movement, fajing is a small movement. You cant move your body with out using your muscles, you can use them less with correct movement, but you can't move with out using them at all
@stevemarshallfunny5981
@stevemarshallfunny5981 5 жыл бұрын
You’re on the right path - there’s something - haven’t found answer
@6588ee.ya.laterFF
@6588ee.ya.laterFF 11 ай бұрын
i agree with alot of what your saying but your being restrictive to 1 attack ,every movement even in trapping ,everything is linked with a hair trigger ,its the internal body structure where the power comes from take bong sou inner whip ,useing push pull with internal structure ,i suggest xing-i done super slow with back breathing ,expansion ,contraction ,train the temdons ,youll make yourself heaps faster and heaps more power
@helmykusuma
@helmykusuma 4 жыл бұрын
I thought you were going to explain/demonstrate fa jin. Sorry, my mistake. You are just explaining your technique and name it fa-jing.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 4 жыл бұрын
Sure if you have some other idea of what Fa Jin is then yes what we do is not what you think of from the term.
@6588ee.ya.laterFF
@6588ee.ya.laterFF 11 ай бұрын
mm He can,t even spell Fajin ,that makes sence considering what i'm seeing
@punisher7772
@punisher7772 9 ай бұрын
​@@6588ee.ya.laterFF neither can you LOL and the guy you are talking about is his son. And seriously you are going to judge by watching one video ? He has tons of training videos. People so quick to criticize but not willing to listen and learn,smh.
@punisher7772
@punisher7772 9 ай бұрын
What ? He is explaining and demonstrating it. Did you even watch the entire video ?
@stevenmorris8325
@stevenmorris8325 3 ай бұрын
​@6588ee.ya.laterFF and you can't even spell sense you hypocritical prick
@GodSpearLiBajiQuan
@GodSpearLiBajiQuan 7 жыл бұрын
With all respect kind sir The knuckle assessment is incorrect when you reach the highest velocities. Baji uses FaJing and Chen si jing as well as 6 other forms of jing. The three lessor knuckles will crush into fragments. Baji is 90% internal at the highest level.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 7 жыл бұрын
We use either the smaller three or the bigger two depending on the angle of the strike. I think if the way your punching causes the smaller three the crush then the bigger two wouldn't be much better off, they both work fine as we're not hitting brick walls, we're hitting parts of the body that are much weaker than the fist. There's always risk of hurting your hand, but should be fine :-)
@SoldierDrew
@SoldierDrew 8 ай бұрын
A high level western boxer has fa jing.
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 3 ай бұрын
The famous Rocky Marciano Suzie Q Punch
@thorick590
@thorick590 5 жыл бұрын
It's always hard to tell by looking, feeling it in person is the best way, but this seems a little off. I say this because I get the impression that if he were not using his arms there would not be much there. See people expressing power using only their torso as the contact point of transmission instead of the hand. The other tell is weight seeming to transfer totally onto one foot. This might mean that the flow of power doesn't originate at the feet, or it could just mean that he had decided to go for 100 percent commitment a bit unusual because if the opponent had managed to grab onto him while he is 100 percent committed to going forward them he is 100 percent lost because the control now belongs to the opponent. As I say it's hard to tell by just looking. I respect his dedication.
@6588ee.ya.laterFF
@6588ee.ya.laterFF 11 ай бұрын
nah you were talking ok with bassically the right thing mostly but those 5 attacks were really poor ,you didnt trap not 1 arm at any time and left yourself open to one huge left hook that would have already left for its target so regardless you would have woren a knockout hook
@tomix1970pl1
@tomix1970pl1 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching.Just funny.
@RocknRollkat
@RocknRollkat 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Moontagu, Your Father is the grand master. I have studied Tai Chi with several different teachers and watching your Dad's clips as well as yours has helped me immensely. Your Dad actually EXPLAINS what is happening, instead of shrouding the technique in the usual voodoo and students mysteriously flying across the floor. Look closely at the clip of Mohammad Ali knocking out Sonny Liston and you can see your Father's lesson in that snapping fa jin punch. It was speculated at the time that Ali used some sort of 'karate' punch, but was dismissed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqPbn3qggM-rpdE Oh, and about that spelling.... "Jin" is translated from the Chinese "energy", or "force". "Jing" is translated as "essence". The correct term is "Fa Jin". Dad gets the spelling wrong, but his lessons are right ! Bill P.
@Vampiracho
@Vampiracho Жыл бұрын
Nothing like the battles in the youtube comments. Keep up the good videos!
@TonyqTNT
@TonyqTNT 5 жыл бұрын
Could a boxer inadvertently execute a Fa Jing punch?
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe, someone must have been the first person to discover it, so someone else could do the same. As long as you are punching with the intent to not follow through then it might just happen one day. Seen as boxers do not follow through with most of their punches it is very possible.
@TonyqTNT
@TonyqTNT 5 жыл бұрын
@@taichiworld Follow through!!! What are you going to do hit a golf ball and retract from contact at the moment of impact? It would be nightfall before you moved the ball halfway to the green!!!
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 5 жыл бұрын
No what I mean when I say no follow through is actually very little follow through. You should go in just a few inches to not waste energy. This way you do all the possible damage with as little backward movement as possible. I was training with a world champion UFC fighter and he explained punching in the same way
@TonyqTNT
@TonyqTNT 5 жыл бұрын
@@taichiworld Thanks for clarifying. I suppose the longer you make striking agent contact with the object mass the force will be diffused over a greater internal area of space and force transference will be completed over a greater durational period of time. Greater duration of impulse force transference dissipated over a larger internal area will effect delayed reactionary reactive force transference of more diffused lesser discrete point intensity as well. I suppose the master demonstrating the Fa Jing striking in the video was more concerned with transferring striking force within a more limited duration of time and concentrating force transference within a more limited internal area of an opponent as opposed to positionally moving the aggregate mass of an opponent as far as possible.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 5 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly, theres no point in moving your opponent backwards unless you're fighting on a cliff or maybe trying to get him in a corner
@easterbuny2226
@easterbuny2226 7 жыл бұрын
He is basically describing the basics of being a good boxer . As Tai Chi is called supreme ultimate boxing , I just do not agree with cracking on the karate guys . Yes they are stiff but they are learning the mechanics of your body and karate is a off shoot of tai Chi as all systems are
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 7 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that Dad should not put down any other style, I do not like that from anyone, I make a point of not doing that at all anymore, even if I really think something is no good. Though I wouldn't say that boxers punch like this, they can punch very well, fast and hard, but I've never seen a boxer who can punch with a great force from very close range, and I've never seen a boxer twist their waist back the other way on contact of the strike like you do with a whip. So I'm not saying that boxers can't punch, far from it, I always say that boxers are usually the best punchers. Not sure how Karate can be an off shoot of Tai Chi? I think Karate is a lot older is it not? The first Tai Chi form was created about 1830. supreme ultimate boxing is one translation of the word Taijiquan, Quan or Chuan can also mean fist or fighting, it really has nothing to do with modern western boxing. Boxing is a sport not a self defence art. Again not saying boxing is no good, just pointing out the differences.
@easterbuny2226
@easterbuny2226 7 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the skill of the individual . It all depends on the boxer applying the punch . I am sure there are some that are stiff and I am sure there are some great boxers like Sugar Ray Robinson that would give anybody I run for there money . Tai Chi is nick named Supreme Ultimate Boxing and having done all three Karate in my youth . Then Boxing as I got a little older and Tai Chi for over 15 years . I think In one way or the other they all compliment each other . Tai Chi and Baggua are what I study these days .
@symbolsarenotreality4595
@symbolsarenotreality4595 5 жыл бұрын
it does come down to individual skill but there are general aspects that are true. Boxers generally do not practice generating force from short distances whereas the 'internal' martial arts do. But boxing is a sport and it has some great attributes to it that are very practical even in life/death situations. The dodging and shielding of boxing are very practical techniques for protecting oneself from strikes. Shielding blocks dont require the precision of striking a strike out of the air. Even if you are good at striking strikes or have even mastered nei-gong shielding yourself and using nei-gong is an excellent way of blocking a fast unexpected strike and then forming a bridge with it as it hits your guard
@brendanreason8746
@brendanreason8746 Ай бұрын
Sifu it is simpler to bruse lees one ench punch
@phongsanm
@phongsanm 4 жыл бұрын
That's definitely NOT Fa-Jin at all. The whipping action he does is still external power (and sound), nothing to do with internal. Look up for Adam Mizner for the real deal.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha good one mate! Yes please anyone reading this do look up Adam Mizner, you'll videos where someone literally just touches his shoulder and then falls to the ground. If you think that kind of thing works then maybe you still believe in Santa as well?
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 4 жыл бұрын
@Mei Jing Yes hypnosis and mind games can be a very powerful thing, unfortunately they only work on those who want to believe that it works, it's very easy to control someone who wants to believe in magic, I've done it myself, then Ive told that person it's all just mind game and they then stop letting me control them. For example one time a guy was demonstrating this Qi draining technique, without touching he waved his hands over the student, the student was then asked to try and hold his arms up as we pushed down on them, his body was too weak. Me and my guys then said I wonder if it still works if the student closes his eyes? So the student closed his eyes, then the teacher was about to do the draining method, but we stopped him with out saying anything so the student would not hear, so absolutely nothing was done to the student, we then tested his strength again, and just like before he had no strength to hold his arms up, proving that it was all in his own mind. Dont let these people control you Mate, you're stronger than that.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 4 жыл бұрын
@Mei Jing SO explain why he can only do it to some people? Why is it that every person I know who has been skeptical has had nothing happen to them? Or he won't even try in the first place. I've heard this same claim countless times. I wrote to him and asked if I come to see him at a workshop will he be able to make me move like this, his reply was that everyone gets effected differently, so he can't guarantee what will happen. Funny that, because every person he does it too on video moves the same way. He was very evasive. I've not met him myself but have seen countess others doing the same tricks, and every time they have been unable to have even the slightest effect on me, and that's with me standing very calm in no way trying to resist etc.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 4 жыл бұрын
@Mei Jing Well lets just leave it as we disagree, there's no way you'll convince me it's real and there's no way I'll convince you it's fake. If I ever get the chance to meet Adam I'll make a video about him explaining what I didn't feel.
@walkonthewooside
@walkonthewooside 4 жыл бұрын
don't look up his brother Jason Mizner
@helioschenli3725
@helioschenli3725 5 жыл бұрын
He is confused between FaLee which he demonstrates very well and FaJinn which he does not yet understand.
@helioschenli3725
@helioschenli3725 5 жыл бұрын
It was a good Fa Lesson though which means explosive basically, But this is not in the realm of Jinn.
@tonypeter8209
@tonypeter8209 5 жыл бұрын
The most important is how nti get Fajin
@Robertorivola-d3i
@Robertorivola-d3i 4 ай бұрын
You should not use karate for your example. Karate is the opposite of what You said... May be you had known only some low low level "teacher" of karate. Sorry
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 4 ай бұрын
Yes I totally agree, I don't know why Dad always use to use Karate for this kind of example, since he also many times said good things about Karate when done properly like you've just said.
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 3 ай бұрын
Okinawan Karate has Kiko aka Qigong
@TheManofsorrows
@TheManofsorrows 8 жыл бұрын
after watching these videos I kind of sense something was not right and something was wrong.
@NinjatoSama
@NinjatoSama Жыл бұрын
To even say that arts like karate draws their fist back before punching just shows how ignorant one is on martial arts systems outside one's realm of knowledge Parroting the classics doesn't make one knowledgeable
@taichiworld
@taichiworld Жыл бұрын
I agree with you that Dads knowledge of other styles was limited and he should not have made comments like this based on such limited knowledge. But that doesn’t mean his own skills were not good. Also in this case what he meant about Karate pulling their fist back etc, he was talking about those poor karate styles that actually do this as a way of punching, rather than understanding the real reason behind the pulling back of the fist. However my Dad often talked highly of the original systems of karate saying they were quite similar to Taiji.
@matthewbaumann630
@matthewbaumann630 9 ай бұрын
@@taichiworld What's the purpose of pulling back the fist?
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 9 ай бұрын
@@matthewbaumann630 Well I don’t know much about Karate myself, but my guess would be something like a wrist hold. It perhaps like in Wing Chun where they pull their elbows back to strengthen the back.
@macrumpton
@macrumpton 2 жыл бұрын
Fa-Jing this is not. This is external force not any kind of internal martial art.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 2 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as internal force. In order to put pressure through something you have to use physical force. Internal force, is actually an oxymoron, because qi/jin/energy cannot move something. When we talk about internal martial arts, the internal part, the Qi, by this being more healthy and strong, everything in your body functions better, your body will be looser, more relaxed etc, this make you punch harder with less effort, hence why it is called an internal punch. Nothing to do with your energy creating force.
@jaysess3806
@jaysess3806 Жыл бұрын
It is just not fair to compare these old videos with the knowledge that can nowadays easily be gained, even if one only watches youtube videos, let alone by travelling to various masters without any problems. These were old times and I got some decent knowledge and ideas out of Erle's videos and I have only bought like 3 or 4 many years ago. One can learn so much even if we sometimes disagree.
@irisk5-m182
@irisk5-m182 2 жыл бұрын
You are talking about other skill like it’s nothing so please talk about yours
@Imisambi
@Imisambi 2 жыл бұрын
yoooooo.....at 12 :45 he definitely lost me.... " just attack there eli ... whoaa whoooo whaaaoo whoooo (indistinct sounds being made) " ...
@kongkong1364
@kongkong1364 5 жыл бұрын
i didn't see a demonstration of fa jing here. just a lot of words
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 5 жыл бұрын
It's an explanation not demonstration. Words are required to explain. Even though he does demonstrate a few times as well.
@1WaySafe
@1WaySafe 6 жыл бұрын
fully agree. bu rong yi. ;)
@OldJong
@OldJong 8 жыл бұрын
The proper term is "Fa Jin"!.. "Jing" is an other thing! More related to sexual energy in a way.
@TheManofsorrows
@TheManofsorrows 8 жыл бұрын
you are correct!
@bidibum
@bidibum 7 жыл бұрын
Michel Boulet Americans…
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 5 жыл бұрын
Americans? Learn your accents. Yes if you want to nit pick jing is not the right way, just like Tai Chi is not the right way.
@Heavy2deep
@Heavy2deep 6 жыл бұрын
@ 9:02 .. yes, lol.
@voisx
@voisx 6 жыл бұрын
a lot of confusions things here. this guy misunderstand a lot of things, and misunderstand others martials arts. he explains wrong and doesnt understand what 发劲 fajin et no fajing what he cannot even say right. did even really learn taiji?
@todo8328
@todo8328 6 жыл бұрын
So he passed? Wow, I just subscribed; was looking forward to more lessons.
@todo8328
@todo8328 6 жыл бұрын
Rest his soul/chi in peace
@NinjatoSama
@NinjatoSama Жыл бұрын
crap....he is so full of it. i hate talking about dead people but this guy never "had it" in the first place
@stevenmorris8325
@stevenmorris8325 Жыл бұрын
Obviously you were never hit by him
@NinjatoSama
@NinjatoSama Жыл бұрын
@@stevenmorris8325 obviously you've never felt my hand 😉
@NinjatoSama
@NinjatoSama Жыл бұрын
@@stevenmorris8325 thats fair, but you never felt my strikes either :)
@stevenmorris8325
@stevenmorris8325 Жыл бұрын
@@NinjatoSama I'm shaking in my boots.
@NinjatoSama
@NinjatoSama Жыл бұрын
Good you should be
@waterolife
@waterolife 3 жыл бұрын
Earl, your left foot is off the ground when your right fist connects to the stool. That's not correst.
@6588ee.ya.laterFF
@6588ee.ya.laterFF 11 ай бұрын
your not even circulating your energy and as soon as you attacked you broke what little structure you had ,but when you did those attacks i face palmed ,shook my head ,laughed and thought %#@& no not another one lol
@omar.agmusic
@omar.agmusic 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. I enjoyed learning. 🔥
@yangming8202
@yangming8202 6 жыл бұрын
A westerner that believes he knows what FaJinn is and is too brash in believing he can explain it. This is not FaJinn by Taiji He is confused and only has half the story. What is described in the comment by the channel owner is a mere method of kinetic chain and is all external martial arts very similar to all hard styles. It is not even spelled correctly.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Yang Ming. The spelling is not incorrect, it is simply the older way of spelling it, there are many different ways of spelling a lot of the Chinese words, Bagua, Bagwa, Pakua for example. So there's no need to try and fixate on the smallest of things just to be nasty, that's not the way to get your point across, be nice and people will listen to you, be nasty and no one will. Now from your point of view, what you know to be FaJinn is obviously very different to what we call Fa-jing. So far you haven't given any information in your comment, you've just pointed out how wrong everything is in the video, not in a very constructive way either. So if you would actually care to discuss your views on the matter, then please do. I find the best thing to start with is if you can post a video of yourself or someone else doing what you would regard as good FaJinn, as I've have so many talks with people saying all this good stuff, but then when they finally show a video, it's of some fake throwing his students across the room with his Qi power, so I like video first, this way we both know where we stand. Regards, Eli
@grahamtacon822
@grahamtacon822 6 жыл бұрын
Moontagu hectic, maybe he found the video offensive. Your father is rather belittling of other arts.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah Dad was terrible like that! When I was younger I did it a bit as well, but soon learnt that it's not the way forward, even if someone nowadays totally trash talks what I or my father does, I'll still be polite and respect all arts, unless they are throwing people with their Qi, that I will always call bull shit on :-)
@grahamtacon822
@grahamtacon822 6 жыл бұрын
Moontagu His vid is cool, I think the only thing people get irritated with is that aspect. Good mindset Eli
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I find it irritating myself, but it's part of the history books now, so I don't think it would be right for me to edit his videos and take out these parts. They are what they are, what's important is that I have learnt from his mistakes and so no longer do this.
@voisx
@voisx 6 жыл бұрын
a lot of confusions things here. this guy misunderstand a lot of things, and misunderstand others martials arts. he explains wrong and doesnt understand what 发劲 fajin et non fajing quil ne sait meme pas prononce. did even really learn taiji?
@diosdadoapias
@diosdadoapias 5 жыл бұрын
tell him that.
@samuelgreene3952
@samuelgreene3952 Жыл бұрын
This is not at all How karatekas punch in real life situations …. They use their entire body to bunch as does any good striker and can strike in very close quarters as shown in this video …Super ignorant statement. Can tell he has Taiji skill for sure though so no disrespect there . I just wish Taiji guys would show them actually using their techniques in live situations not just against non resisting opponents. Nobody wonders if Muy thai or bjj work because pressure testing is a part of training . I wish traditional martial arts were like this because having studied several , I know they have much to offer, but often get a bad rap
@taichiworld
@taichiworld Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't understand why Dad often made blanket statements like that, since many times he would often say that good karate is very similar to Taiji, then he makes a blanket statement like this. Showing how it all really works is something I'm working on at the moment, I did a video a few months ago from our Combat camp where it shows some light sparring. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5bNp5ewap51m9k
@fencersguild-guildamgladia2485
@fencersguild-guildamgladia2485 3 жыл бұрын
Man, what a theory... very much no! Regarding the content and the meaning of what "fa jing" means its like a bad joke. Please do not spread such selfmade nonsense evermore. Please contact Yang family in Hongkong and ask about their art. There u may find a real background. Stop presenting such bullshit as taiji or any other martial art. Its embarrasing. Thank you.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your helpful insights.
@yogavibe2516
@yogavibe2516 4 жыл бұрын
With all due respect ...no fa-jin here ....conceptually a bit but no actual demonstration or ability.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 4 жыл бұрын
Show me yours to validate your comment :-)
@yogavibe2516
@yogavibe2516 4 жыл бұрын
@@taichiworld its not a competition, its just that you have not demonstrated it in that particular video...you can always make another vid with better demonstration.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld 4 жыл бұрын
@@yogavibe2516 yes but opinions are invalid unless I know who you are. 99% of the time when someone says this is not fajin they either know nothing at all or they live in a fairytale and think that fajin is to throw someone back by just using Qi. I'm not saying you are either of those things, you might be a really good martial artist, but since I don't know who you are nor have you given any reasoning to your opinion I don't see any point in discussing it. I think its fajin you think its not, show my you are qualified to have an opinion and I'd love to then talk about you way 🙂
@yogavibe2516
@yogavibe2516 4 жыл бұрын
@@taichiworld Fair enough , I meant no disrespect, All the best to you and your lineage.
@krenx
@krenx 4 жыл бұрын
Yoga Vibe is right. This is not a demonstration of Yang style fa jin. Observe Adam Mizner and Liang de hua's demonstrations online. And of course please go verify their skills or their students in person like I have. It is unfortunate people spend years in these systems and walk away with no authentic internal development and skill. A real shame. Know the difference between physical force, and jin. That at least gets you closer to understanding what is NOT fa jin. From how I see your response to critics, even if a master like Adam, Sifu Sergio Pascal Iadarola or Liang de hua tells you this is not fajin, and shows you a video, you will say it's invalid; as you should. Verify their skills in person is the most honest way if you have the chance. You're still young, explore and seek out real skill and learn it. You'll be amazed by the depth of potential authentic taiji has to offer.
@EdwardNiam
@EdwardNiam 7 жыл бұрын
This guy does like to hear himself talk but says very little.
@BoCopenhagen
@BoCopenhagen 7 жыл бұрын
Or mayby you are to impatient to try to understand what he is trying to explain? It is complicated stuff man.
@leodograu9027
@leodograu9027 3 жыл бұрын
ain fraco tenho um golpe mais forte capa
@ernestaldrien7918
@ernestaldrien7918 4 жыл бұрын
Sir you talk to much, show your power punch please . . .
@user-gq6dg7ee6d
@user-gq6dg7ee6d 4 жыл бұрын
Did you not see the thing he was punching? It's not a stable thing to punch so you can't see the force and he's demonstrating anyways. A master doesn't have to be strong to teach long as he knows the principals. Also that spacing of . . . is rude, he's teaching you this for free. There's no ads on this video.
@user-gq6dg7ee6d
@user-gq6dg7ee6d 4 жыл бұрын
Also read this. www.taijiworld.com/fa-jing.html
@user-gq6dg7ee6d
@user-gq6dg7ee6d 4 жыл бұрын
I also think it wouldn't be a good idea to try fa jing on real people even if they wear guards. It sounds something so deadly like a energy poison. It will knock the life force out of the person if striked right. I think it can instantly kill someone too if it's good enough, truely one of the best moves of all kung fu.
@TRUTHorSTFU
@TRUTHorSTFU 4 жыл бұрын
Thar's cuz he knows you're hard of hearing :-)
@firman3c377
@firman3c377 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-gq6dg7ee6d nooooo, i thought i had made that move for myself and my future students but it seemed it already exist
@gaolong2895
@gaolong2895 8 жыл бұрын
jajajajajaj
@kevinhsu5678
@kevinhsu5678 4 жыл бұрын
Bs
@xingyimaster1987
@xingyimaster1987 4 жыл бұрын
I agree lol Why is it erle montagues tai chi looks nothing like anyone elses.
@Sharkey247
@Sharkey247 3 жыл бұрын
As a student of this school of taiji I can assure you it’s not bs. Watch Eli’s videos...
@gullydantes5607
@gullydantes5607 Жыл бұрын
Another charlatan. Calling himself a master or worse a sifu. Fa jin from jin meaning internal power through the practice of nei gong. Everybody as jin. Without jin you wouldn't be able to fight gravity. But you need a certain level of jin strength to be able to fight with it. That level is called fa jin.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld Жыл бұрын
In what way is my late father a charlatan mate?
@gullydantes5607
@gullydantes5607 Жыл бұрын
@@taichiworld Exactly what I said earlier. Your late father never developed fa jin. He lied. It is easy enough to notice on the videos. Another charlatan profiteering from innocent people.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld Жыл бұрын
@@gullydantes5607 A charlatan is someone who deliberately sells bull shit, knowing that it’s bull shit. Personally I disagree with you, but even if my father did not gain “true” fajin, to his knowledge what he taught was fajin. Therefore you could in your opinion say that he is wrong, that he has poor skills etc, but he was an honest man teaching good movement to gain huge power in striking. So, a charlatan he was not.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld Жыл бұрын
@Gary Stevenson Hey Gary. For the Taiji side of things, we have two lines coming in through my dad. One is Yang Cheng-fu, Dad learnt from Chu King Hung, one of Yang Sau Chung’s main students, Sau Chung being cheng-fu’s eldest son. He also met and had some input from Sau Chung himself while he was training in Hong Kong. He trained with other members of that line such as Fu Zhong Wen as well. Then for most of what we do it comes from the Shou Ho line. Dad trained with many teachers, but his main one was Chang Yiu Chun, who told dad he was a student of Shou Ho.
@taichiworld
@taichiworld Жыл бұрын
@Gary Stevenson Great, I hope you enjoy it! No I'm Malta based. Soon to be moving to Cardiff UK.
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