That Time Someone Updated a Video Game To Remove a Hat (Epic Video Game Soundtracks)

Remastered video games are becoming more commonplace as the years go by, but they're usually for reasons such as improving the visuals or fixing the gameplay. Less common is to update and rerelease a game... to remove a hat.
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Devil May Cry 5 (2019)
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Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (2005)
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Fight Club (1999)
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[@aaronboothproduction]

True Fact: We only ever see Karl from the waist up because he's packing a "Classic Dante" and is too Edgelord to wear pants.

[@soupisfornoobs4081]

The old outro confirms that

[@andrewthorp7499]

The best thing is that in the definitive edition of DMC is that they remove the fedora in game but, the fedora still appears in the credits.

[@DemonDethchase]

I always thought it looked more like a tiny cowboy hat. Look up Kurt Angle's littlest cowboy hat and you'll see what I mean

[@SwervingLemon]

@@GigawingsVideo In another video, Karl reveals that the m'lady meme picture is actually a headshot for the guy who played Pugsley Addams.

[@m4taylor780]

@@SwervingLemon that video is what brought me here how the hell have I missed this for so long?!

[@toejam316]

@@DemonDethchase ³

[@jackpollard550]

“They edited the scene with the 360 Quick-Scope Abortion.” “The.. The what?” “I know what I said.”

[@isaacsanchez5922]

Hahahahahahahaha....AAAAhahahahahahahaha

[@smoove_]

I read that just as he said it

[@arthuraydin8731]

a trick: you can watch movies at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching all kinds of movies recently.

[@stetsonrodrigo1403]

@Arthur Aydin yea, I've been watching on flixzone} for since november myself :)

[@PoshBeard]

@@smoove_ Not one person asked.

[@phantomdude9901]

Shadow the edgehog: Pumps an obviously non-pump weapon *WAT*

[@evilclown019]

Mikey Menthol THANK YOU

[@brennanruiz1803]

Don’t you mean “Edgy the Hedgie”?

[@plague6566]

Pump action Semi-automatic Submachine Gun

[@chrismanning2888]

@@evilclown019 Real Gun actually

[@user-so1yi2tm2r]

@@brennanruiz1803 edgy hedgy*

[@Tarrenger]

They removed the hat, BUT forgot to remove it from the end credits scenes. So it's still there.

[@rosesske2551]

Tarrenger Drakenlied Kinda like how DMC Dante default look will still show up in certain cutscenes even when your wearing the Devil may cry 1 outfit.

[@Otgel]

@@rosesske2551 i think cuz they are maybe pre rendered but idk

[@eduardoc439]

"He was like a gay cowboy wtf" ~Ninja theory "So in the last new entry we make Dante dance like a gay cowboy and it was pretty cool ngl" ~Itsuno hideaki

[@samanthaw3845]

Oh my god I didn’t make that connection until I read this comment

[@kogashinto2123]

@@samanthaw3845 holy fck. u're right

[@steamboathedgie]

There's an ending in Shadow the Hedgehog where he beats up Sonic and proclaims himself "the most powerful hedgehog in the world."

[@graham1034]

Having hung out with video game devs on many occasions, to the average game dev, wearing a trenchcoat/fedora/katana combo is actually unironically the coolest thing ever. Those are just the kind of people that want to work on games like DMC.

[@UrdnotWrex88]

Well at least now we know where Virgil's Fedora went, Mr. X in the RE2 remake has it now xD

[@ThatGuy-uw3yf]

“I need to open this next beer, pass me something stupid to open it with.” *throws a bottle of multi vitamins* 😂

[@itsviper6]

And he fuckin does it too! What a damn madlad

[@sirsmellybottom7480]

Them Vitamins be very strong

[@Director_Bison]

"Shadow the hedghog the game is so try hard edgy that it breaks the dial and goes back around and starts being awesome again" YES! This is the greatest video i'v ever seen in my life.

[@uriel7395]

You forgot how Dante and Vergil are fighting shirtless in the rain in DMC 3.

[@duceanchovy4918]

Did you read Woolie's fanfic too?

[@uriel7395]

@@duceanchovy4918 Yes, and I've got to say that it was phenomenal.

[@UnlimitedGreenWorks]

@@uriel7395 give me the link

[@kacperzina8989]

@@uriel7395 GIB LINK

[@MonsieurBig]

What did you think of Nero and Vergil fighting shirtless in the stratosphere?

[@UrobourosZero]

I completely forgot that Shadow The Hedgehog actually cocks an SMG as if it were a shotgun. Also, I love talking about Devil May Cry, Resident Evil, Silent Hill and Metal Gear, and I'm so glad this channel uploaded a Devil May Cry-specific video. Makes me hype for both my REmake2 and DMCV pre-orders

[@Scorpius1122]

I love when games sync their music to how you're doing in the game.

[@crimsonbok]

DmC would've been better if it starred Donté, el exterminador de demonios

[@justacasualdefierofphysics6517]

A man of culture i see

[@slayer-22]

Memes do die, you know. Parading it's corpse helps no one.

[@omiorahman6283]

Yes

[@incelliousthewizard7883]

@@slayer-22 no

[@slayer-22]

I want cuphead to sit on my face With a name like that, your response really amounts to less than a wet fart.

[@Tyberes]

Fun fact about the "Not in a Million years" Line: When you unlock Dante's Devil trigger (basically his super mode) his hair turns white while it's active. He also permanently gains a streak of white in his hair It wasn't not in a million years -> 3 years later It was not in a million years -> Several hours later

[@WinchesterxNL]

The streak of white grows even bigger within the game over time, to where at the end its barely black.

[@gobblegobble5567]

There’s also a dlc costume of dmc3 Dante that’s impossible to play the game without

[@mikemhz]

"...wearing a fedora." *Fedora-adorned Vergil nods* "you heard right, I love my fedora." *Dante walks out of shot*

[@Avengedtenfold]

They made a presentation on what different cultures found cool. After making a game where one of their cool characters was literally a katana using, trenchcoat wearing fedora tipping edgelord. Take that in for a moment folks.

[@mask938]

Ninja Theory is full of dumbasses.

[@rexrob2568]

Well tbh ninja theory wanted to make dmc devil may cry closer to the original but capcom kept pushing them to change the game and "appeal" to western appeals

[@vashythewabbit8288]

They already said it in this video

[@rexrob2568]

@@vashythewabbit8288 yeah but it's still crazy that everyone hated ninja theory for the changes

[@Rafael-rn6hn]

The problem was Ninja Theory kept reacting to it and dissing fans.

[@travismurtland3257]

If only they knew, the original Dante had always been appealing to the west

[@TheAustralianMapper5378]

Why do people assume that something needs to be “westernised?”

[@kakyointhemilfhunter4273]

Capcom execs were disappointed with DMC 4s sales as they expected them to be on par with Call of duty... For some reason. Capcom execs thought they needed to appeal more to the West for better sales.

[@josiahtatum1018]

@tOwOxic is it the West or The US.

[@ginogatash4030]

@@kakyointhemilfhunter4273 well dmc4 also sold worse than the other games, especially in the states, because they rushed it, and the producers instead of blaming its failure on themselves thought they had to make it appeal more to Americans so they got a British studio to develop and completely reboot the series, and after the absolute character assassination that was the DMC reboot, everyone pretends dmc4 was alright and Capcom just made dmc5 and stopped talking about dmc reboot entirely.

[@Canadish]

Capcom and other Japanese publishers took a beating in early 2000s by Western developed games. They reacted by trying to Westernise everything they did for a while, assuming it would emulate Western success. The issue is, they look a lot of the wrong lessons away and suffered for it. They eventually figured out how to be themselves again and its been pretty good for the last few years in the Japanese dev sphere again.

[@davidbrenner5806]

Worse part is, its not even US western. It's crazy spandex wearing eastern Europe "westernized". Old DMC was already cool in the US. So now he's an edgelord teen when the games fan base is all grown up.

[@gabeclement1131]

13:08 Eh, I always thought that how cool you looked was always a combinations of how you dress and how you carry yourself. So a long trench coat, a fedora, and a katana, could be pretty cool if the person wearing it was actually competent. A zip up sweater, with a tie underneath, and jeans, could be cool if you're Mr. Rogers.

[@connorluff180]

gabe clone yeah if you pose with a weapon you can’t use it’s lame but if it’s a weapon you can snap into lethal with it can be badass

[@RegisBodnar]

Late as ever here, but I'm still mystified that these people also made Hellblade: Senua's Secrifice! A game about a woman who goes through literal Viking Hell, with the severed head of her boyfriend, all the while fighting psychosis!

[@MyDixieWrecked247]

That game sounds badass

[@RegisBodnar]

@@MyDixieWrecked247 I mean, Senua's a relentless badass, so that tracks!

[@chocolateteaspoon]

hold on, did i just see shadow pump-action a sub machine gun?

[@seezy9445]

"You will never top edhgie the hedgie." Infinite: "don't hold my beer I can do it myself since I'M NOT WEEEEEEEAAAAAKKKKKKKKKK."

[@KyoMobius]

Edgy the hedgy. That's it everybody go home we can't surpass that.

[@Scroteydada]

I think Shadow the Hedgehog is already the funniest thing I've ever heard really.

[@spingmufh1007]

Thank God we're just gonna forget the reboot and move to devil may cry 5

[@DemonDethchase]

Too bad the gaming press are still tripping over themselves to try defend it. But I suppose we can all gather round and laugh at them when they complain about how there's no music in DMC5 - as the game has a dynamic music system based on what your style rank is - because they can't get above a C.

[@lordasian8476]

@@kyriss12 DMC is always about Edgy teenager fighting the demon

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

@@kyriss12 DMC5 doesn't have a obnoxious protagonist

[@zeroskaterz92]

@@kyriss12 Sounds like you never actually played any of the DMC games.

[@motivatedshcum8854]

@@kyriss12 boo hoo no one cares. That's the whole damn point of the games

[@Alonne1]

i cant believe you didnt use that scene from devil may cry 4 when dante goes sexual using lucifer

[@papabray4703]

"a character who wouldn't look out of place walking past you in the street" I'm pretty sure anyone wearing a trench coat in the last century looks out of place

[@silveryin4341]

Also in DMC5 he does some like magic Mike dancing shit with the hat so its even more referential to broke back mountain its great.

[@dujeanhickling61]

I am a simply man; I see devil may cry and I give a like. I see them shit talking Don'te I wish I can give more. Hears the joke about the hat; I wish he had a patron.

[@zeulus2778]

... I miss the Best Friends...

[@Yal_Rathol]

why did you make me remember.

[@Scroteydada]

It's getting to me now

[@heavenlydio7788]

It's set in

[@slayer-22]

Fuck you for making me think of them. Ass.

[@EggBastion]

How many of these videos have I watched and not seen a mention in the comments... What better place than here?

[@agoodspoon6302]

Nothing messing up the green screen I’m disappointed

[@Wordolf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYGvk315atxggLc

[@the_goldensheep679]

@@Wordolf what the fuck is that

[@Kore_YT]

Good video, I have totally seen it even though its only been up for 11 minutes and its 18 minutes long.

[@blackfox3374]

Hi

[@snowykaze]

Woah you watch...?! Quick question, how are you and GioFilms different?

[@Kore_YT]

@@snowykaze "I am legal he isn't" is my go to and I am sticking with it here.

[@camerongraham3929]

Keep up the good vids softy, they're the kore of my youtube veiwing.

[@dazzadazza6073]

Glad to see you watch this is well.

[@Slimymic]

Surprised you didn’t mention how they changed his whole blood line from OG As a half human half demon to Half demon Half angel and they made his dad the demon lord

[@ChloePricesNumberOneSimp]

"Hedgy the edgy" has s nice ring to it.

[@Rumblingbum]

thumbnail should have included a sticker saying "featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry-Series"

[@Agroveb]

Do a video about Jackie Chan’s singing career

[@Wykesidefruitmachine]

Or the lesbian daughter he has nothing to do with.

[@l0sts0ul89]

@@Wykesidefruitmachine Wait What

[@Wykesidefruitmachine]

@@l0sts0ul89 Yup. He had an affair behind his wife's back in the 90's, conceiving her. The daughter was homeless for a while, blaming 'homophobic parents'. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/26/asia/jackie-chan-daughter-marriage-scli-intl/index.html

[@gizelels2398]

This I gotta see

[@arkhamshade2198]

When they mentioned shadow as one of the edgiest videogame characters I thought "well yeah his nickname is edgy the hedgy"

[@zefellowbud5970]

Im no westerner but my definition of one of the coolest western dude is david bowie

[@kobybeefpizza]

People pair Shadow with Shrek as a response to a bizarre crossover deviantart comic where they were best friends and it was done completely at face value, which resulted in people ironically shipping them, which upset the original artist, which, needless to say, added fuel to the fire. Also resulted in the "my time here is ogre" meme.

[@snowykaze]

_EDGY THE HEDGY_ New IGN, thanks lol EDIT: HOLY CREPE 220 LIKES?!

[@scarffoxandfriends9401]

Another nickname is shadow the edgehog

[@hamboner4386]

458 likes

[@nothuman1032]

Why dose the way he describes dmc sound like a Quentin Tarantino movie

[@chenstormstout9456]

The minute I heard Dante say “fuck you”, I immediately thought of Edward Carnby from the 2008 remake of Alone In the Dark. They pretty much did the same thing.

[@ecilpsgg]

Farcry 3 when you're torching the weed farm and burn dem by skrillex and Damian Marley come on is by far my favorite game music moment.

[@liviekumori]

Feels like the reboot Dante tries to be cool and fails, but classic Dante doesn't even need to try

[@Kyderra]

That's odd, I remember them fighting in the rain without a shirt on.

[@XcaptainXobliviousX]

THE SUPER BEST FRIENDS ARE DEAD AND SO IS MY HEART

[@UrobourosZero]

How long they lasted was more than we'd think, but less than we'd hope. The Zaibatsu were the Zai-Best-u Shut up, I'm more emotional than David Cage characters.

[@Chilled_]

This comment hurt more than a sniper rifle abortion

[@RexcorJ]

I'm still in the hospital right now trying to fix my bleeding heart. Fuck this universe.

[@eeyuup]

They split up? Why?

[@Kris-ck2md]

Truly, the darkest timeline.

[@HannahNoell]

8:24 imagine being badass enough to have a pump-action submachine gun

[@Eddman368]

The hype level of the music being tied to how good you play is the best fraud detector of all time.

[@VincentBrooks437]

I liked playing dmc but my heart was pounding in this video. Thank you for not down grading the best devil may cry originals. 😰 Phew.

[@aidan-]

The new Dante looks like he would get beat up by the old version after he beat up an old lady

[@simonleech1109]

I have been waiting for a Factfiends Devil May Cry for a while and it didn't disappoint

[@jakeywakey_ow]

Ninja theory’s response reminds me of ea’s response to battlefield 5.

[@mango2450]

Big Chungus featuring Dante from DMC

[@Scroteydada]

From 2015 but not dead?????

[@daholt85001]

I did not know that the music got louder as you did combos. lol. amazing.

[@christophermuller386]

Midwestern american fan just like to say y'all kick ass. Lots of fun as well as interesting topics. Thanks for the work you put in.

[@skippiefritz]

I just assume Karl's always drunk, it's hard not to be drunk with youtube being always broken.

[@burgulize]

FACT FIEND WITH DMC?! IS IT MY BIRTHDAY?!

[@knightsurda]

ive had devastation sitting in my CD case just staring at it like, i know youre bad but i will play you one day. Hearing the opening riff just made me pop it in, im so hype right now!

[@derrickbrinson6965]

Love your videos. They're like a fab mental floss take. However, I actually have all of those things (hat, coat, and sword) and now I'm tempted to take a photo with them all just out of spite.

[@davidstrickland8550]

That transformers tangent at the end is irrefutable evidence that karl has never been laid

[@lordofallweebs5821]

Even being a terrible person, Tyler Durden was indeed a badass. The difference is that Tyler is chill with no fucks to give anyone, but Dino acted like he was constantly trying to look awesome

[@ardent-ace27]

just that longer than usual pause between the main video and the ending like brad just saying "do i have to...?? really???" lmao

[@Aceshot86]

Love the intro. I always watch your videos to see where they can go.

[@PunkPansy-]

If that had been a brand new game I bet people would have been fine with that design

[@LaSeanAbSOLute]

Reboot Dante(Dino)is a unlikable, disrespectful, edgy, try hard prick. Original Dante is a cool, nonchalant badass

[@nobody-pr7fg]

Stay awesome guys, love your content and I'm happy to see that you have gotten such a bigger following

[@bringingtherukas7473]

I want to see you do the 2 beer trick. 2 beers, must open both in one motion. No props no spills.

[@norbertorivera2482]

Ugh I forgot about the sniper scene. Honestly made me feel sick just watching it

[@shadechaos164]

Edge lord character Jackie Estacado from The Darkness games

[@vahlok1426]

Thank you so much for talking about Transformers Devastation. That game's freaking hype as hell!

[@Nickferal]

Americanized Dante looks like a 90's cool kid in a medium budget TV show.

[@wolfenstarnice4821]

I played Shadow the hedgehog ALL THE TIME when I was a kid.

[@channingdeadnight]

It's great how popular you've gotten. And without cheesing out on patreon and shit like that.

[@nemasisdemarini8339]

I'm re-watching this in July, 2021, and I honestly forgot that they used to film these in the room together.

[@8belleangel8]

With every video, i love karl and this channel more and more!

[@jasonwalker4003]

it's about vergil's fedora, isn't it? edit: called it

[@DemonDethchase]

Yes Capcom told Ninja Theory to radically redesign Dante but I doubt they called Tameem over and told him. There will be backlash on the reveal, but in between making the game instead of trying to rebuild bridges back to the fanbase, we want you, with the help of one of our, Alex Jones, to piss the fans off even more. Pretty much bury the old games, and slander them anyway you can. Like say about how the original series, and Dante, isn't cool anymore, that'll really whip up a storm among the fanbase and get the game some attention! You can't honestly expect to sell a game purely on fan backlash and controversy alone and expect it to do well because it won't happen. I blame Keiji Inafune for it. Custom made to what fans wanted indeed. Also with the running thing of demon's shedding tears DMC1 Trish cries when Dante saves her despite being a pawn for Mundus DMC2 Lucia cries when discovering her origin as an artificial demon DMC3 Dante sheds a tear for his brother (Vergil) as he's trapped in the demon world DMC4 Nero cries at being unable to save Kyrie DmC Lilith cries because the heroes give her a sniper rifle abortion before shooting her in the head

[@austintea]

Dante is alot like vash the stampede, both wear red trench coats, have an evil brother, accidentally the coolest charecters and embrace humanity despite not being a human

[@Valnanailo]

Man when you're talking about dynamic music, all I can think of is Killer Instinct, that music gets intense if you pull off a combo

[@captainchucklefuk7807]

Can we talk about how edgy the edgehog pumped an ar

[@SwervingLemon]

I feel you, man, but people made that observation 9 months ago. That's just how badass he is. He can pump the grip on an AR.

[@aoshoukin1683]

0:00 true

[@artilleryjay3697]

That was some genuine excitement over a game soundtrack, and I love it!

[@Tekrothebountyhunter]

I personally thought it was awesome how 2013's Killer Instinct alters the music in time with your attacks and combos. Probably the most engaging a fighting game could be at that point.

[@grinreaperoftrolls7528]

Lmfao edgy the hedgie

[@Sputnik312]

Karl = Super Best Friends fan?

[@QuinnyCafe]

Herac1es he's used a clip of theirs in a previous video about taunting giant robots (kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZKlemlvi7qjabc 7:37)

[@Sputnik312]

@@QuinnyCafe You're a champion brother

[@EggBastion]

Striking when all that's left of the iron is rubble, and even that's burned, _and_ gone -cold- out for cigarettes...

[@GwenShep]

One of the best things about the hat being removed is that in the credits of the game it shows cutscene screenshots and in one of the screenshots, its Virgil still wearing the hat its amazing

[@FlamingBehar]

Devil May Cry was one of the earlier games I played as a kid and I fucking loved it. I remember being so excited by Devil May Cry 2 when I learned you could actively shoot in multiple directions and shit.

[@notyetrain]

But! Ninja Theory totally redeemed themselves with Hellbalde: Senua's Sacrifice.

[@smward87]

Um...sort of. It was still pretty damn pretentious at the end of the day. Senua's mental issues were actually very minor in the grand scheme of the plot and pretty much existed solely to push the game as trying something unique. Without it, it's just your standard walking sim broken up with bits of God of War Lite combat sections.

[@HeavySandvichGuy1]

NT is a good company. All they need is freedom and money. For DmC they had money, but didn't have freedom. For Hellblade they had freedom but didn't have money. Now, under Microsoft, they'll come up with awesome games

[@hotnessgaming1396]

DmC upon original release (not the next gen one) gets 9's thrown at it from every reviewer. We didn't know back then but yeah, that game was for quadriplegic babies with early onset dementia (which is what most games journalists are) that's why it was so liked. Easy AF and cringe with shittiest writing and mediocre combat at best. No unlockables and everything extra was a paid DLC. DMC4SE comes out, literally the granddaddy or Stylish Hack n' Slash games with combat system so advanced it still has not been topped by any game and is used as a frame of reference when comparing other great hack n' slash games' combat systems. Silly anime story (but heartfelt if you're into animés) and unlockables and extra content for days. Did I say days? Weeks. Having 5 playable characters who play completely differently from each other. Actual enemy variety and challenge and much more, ALL OF THAT for 24.99$. LESS than half price of a full retail game (let's see what other companies sell remastered games at that price? Especially having added so many things. Nah, it's a psp game that upon release cost 40$? Well, let's update the visuals slightly put it on PS4, REMOVE features and sell it for 60$. (Looking at you square)) IGN-6/10 "I like racing games. Why are they making me review this" this legit happened.. we should've figured it out then that these gaming websites were a joke. I did though especially since Destructoid gave Shadow of Mordor a 6/10. I stopped watching/reading/waiting for reviews. back then I realized all these people were hacks who wouldn't know a good game if it fecked them up the butt and they've been proving me right ever since. And it's HILarious

[@CGingRun]

you and @InternetToday are my favorite youtubers. the moment you get a join button expect me on that shit.

[@AtomTomZeitalter]

I mean yeah, Shadow is one of the edgiest video game characters - but American boxart Kirby tho.

[@AmmarKhan-lt5es]

Who tf is James Bourne

[@Luciferkrist]

DMC did have a good soundtrack. The remixes of Combichrist were decent for the game being presented.

[@cjsayers3346]

OKAY, dude, that riff was pretty hype. Tell Brad he owes you two more references to the drop from transformers.

[@LicoriceMouse]

when you showed the photo of him in brokeback mountain (I was eating chocolate at the time) I fell to the floor laughing and almost choked on my chocolate lel

[@rainer2471]

Okay this is a huge misunderstanding. The remastered version of DmC re-balanced the whole combat system, adding lock on, hardcore mode, and turbo mode. It also includes all the dlc as well. I’m a huge fan of the original series, but have to admit the remastered version of the reboot makes that game actually amazing. The removal of the hat is just a funny addition.

[@rainer2471]

Also ninja theory’s original design of Dante was close to the original Dante. But Capcom and the original director of DMC pushed to make him look like the crackhead.

[@zffrailgun1630]

The combat might be considered "amazing" among action games, but when compared to DMC3 and DMC4, it can only be called "lackluster" at best.

[@rainer2471]

@@zffrailgun1630 The grapple and trigger enabled weapons are awesome and the animations for the attacks were also slick af. They're very different games so it's hard for me to compare the two in any meaningful way.

[@rainer2471]

@@Rad-Dude63andathird Style building in DmC is literally the easiest out of the entire series.

[@zffrailgun1630]

@@rainer2471 The grapple is just Nero's Devil Bringer that just allows you to choose whether you want to go to or bring your enemy to you. Not sure what you mean with trigger enabled weapons, but if you mean holding down the button to use an angelic or demonic weapon, that sucks as well, since you have to constantly hold down the button. As for the animations, that's all DmC has going for it, along with some nice level designs and platforming. The combat itself lacks so much depth that it's practically a joke compared to the last two games and DMC5.

[@RøwBærTøw]

Whatever happened to "the customer is always right"? When will game devs realize that making massive changes to a franchise and then insulting the fanbase when the people who they want to buy their product complain is not a good idea. Get Woke, Go Broke.

[@RøwBærTøw]

@@GigawingsVideo but did they learn from it?

[@KuukoPesto]

This was recommended to me randomly and it's awesome. I will certainly be a reoccurring customer that isn't actually buying anything.