The Video Game So Metal There Are Pentagrams In The Soundtrack (Reviewers Who Can't Play Games)

[@bentuttle9170]

For all the accusations of being demonic, I'd say doom has a pretty strong anti-demon message.

[@skullcandy14785]

Ben Tuttle I agree and you can spin this more saying that doom is the ultimate Chistain by killing off demons

[@nobody-pr7fg]

Doomguy is an exorcist whose given up on bibles and crosses and picked up a shotgun instead

[@skullcandy14785]

nobody Damn that would awesome I can imagine an old priest used shotguns and high grade weapons to kill off demons and making him younger in the process

[@faramirez643]

You literally kill demons! How the hell is that demonic XD

[@Klaidman-nr2gs]

“Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil... prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. Eat leaden death, demon...” ― Terry Pratchett

[@millennialfish9219]

>has pistol >has shotgun >can't aim *Uses pistol*

[@trooper-wl5mo]

Used all the ammo in the shotgun on the map

[@RealRinka]

Wasted his ammo on a wall.

[@lowresgamr]

@@kght222 How do you miss the bfg pickup? You enter it's chamber to progress and it's a massive hunk of reflective metal.

[@lowresgamr]

@@kght222 but u enter a shaft with lasers and blast the chamber just before falling down the shaft, this chamber showing the BFG. Were u in a rush to beat the game?

[@lowresgamr]

@@kght222 did u beat the campaign?

[@rushthezeppelin]

As a Catholic I don't even understand why Evangelical Christians would decry Doom. I mean you are fighting the damn demons not participating in their demonic activities. Seems like Doom Slayer would be a bit of a hero and a good role model for them.

[@raptorcell6633]

Doom Slayers back story is entirely based off of the "Dont make a deal with Devil" addage. He made a deal with the Devil which severely backfired on Slayer which made him so unbelievably pissed off he was granted the power of the gods and went down to Hell to fuck up Satan. Multiple times.

[@ryaneftink7364]

I think we all know why. The Spanish Inquisition did nothing wrong.

[@binghalim1852]

they mad cuz their thots and prayers dont work

[@paulgriffin6678]

Case and point doom slayer is a good guy

[@bloogonis]

@@raptorcell6633 Doom Slayer isn't the Betrayer since Doom Slayer was incorruptible that's why hes able to just live in hell cracking skulls. (Source: DEMIGOD from the soundtrack) The Betrayer brought ruin to the wraiths in exchange for his sons resurrection but in turn brought on his planes version of the Icon of Sin. So it still proves your statement, just wrong character. Doom Slayer would probably rip the tongue out of a demon trying to make a deal and then strangle it with the removed appendage.

[@dinonuggets7148]

Karl needs to tattoo his hand green so when he holds a mug it floats

[@franciscojavierlopezmenend9740]

Yes, give this man a floating mug!!

[@ZERELA666]

Or, you know.... he could just wear a green glove.... 🧤

[@k2k4]

Or get a green mug so he dunks from nothing

[@ThatIcy777]

its like a living green suit thing, the one thing he won't get because people keep asking for it lol

[@noisyash4234]

hes using as many colours as possible so the chroma key cant be changed

[@niamhmorrissey2187]

When the menu theme is literally played by a synthesised chainsaw, you know it's gonna be an experience.

[@directorkrennicisunderappr7594]

The DOOM soundtrack's genre isn't heavy metal, but one basically invented for DOOM called INDUSTRIAL METAL!

[@leonmercury3732]

"I can't believe somebody who plays video games for a living is so bad at them" Part of my interview to become a game tester was to play a racing game. I got last, and was over 20 seconds behind. I got the job.

[@DeadHaremGuy]

how's the job?

[@ChevyRedneckGFX]

Why

[@superxdish]

Where do you do that interview?

[@koolkid2502]

It was probably because they needed someone bad to figure out how to make the game easier for more casual players. I'm not trying offend just a thought

[@keeganfirecloak4695]

What game was it?

[@CrazyCodger]

Doom was also created by a mormon, it has serious anti demon themes (duh) and he actually gets annoyed when people call it satanic.

[@TheBothvar]

I saw him in an interview say something about that. You aren't worshiping the demons, you are KILLING them. With extreme prejudice.

[@PenguinNoodleSoup]

CrazyCodger a Mormon or ex Mormon

[@LeadSkillets]

I've seen similar reactions to Diablo 2 and other games with demonic themes.

[@sparkle74HvH]

Braindeads galore, mormons are a branch of masonry and we know how much "christian" they are...

[@TheOneWayDown]

@@sparkle74HvH Well they are LITERALLY a Christian church, just one with another book they follow.

[@GameFreak7744]

"The meal was terrible. The steak didn't fit in my ear at all, and the peas got stuck in my nostrils. One star."

[@chaoticproductions3922]

I’m sorry? XD

[@camfox5187]

Is that a doug Stanhope reference lol?

[@walter1853]

Based

[@swissarmyknight4306]

That's game critic level quality.

[@MJRSoap]

The best part about the polygon review of doom is that they say they music is shit, which means they only had that 30 minutes of footage to use to write their article on Doom.

[@magicmanscott40k]

The music the best part. Worst review ever

[@ericmalikyte885]

Maybe they listen to dildos music. Can't handle the metals, normie jack-offs. \m/

[@2thinkcritically]

Let's be honest here, Polygon isn't fit for purpose

[@gab_gallard]

I just read the review. They never say the music is bad. Actually, they don't mention the music at all, which is a shame. Not really defending the review since it reads like they were going to score a 6 or 7 at best, and then they score an 8.5, which sounds fine but don't reflect the text at all, so it totally is a bad review. Still, to claim that they say the music is shit is absolutely false. Here is it if you want to check it out: www.polygon.com/2016/5/18/11706108/doom-review-PC-xbox-one-PS4

[@gab_gallard]

@@glitchyjoe64 You can dislike whatever you want of course. The problem arises when you try to ignore well deserved merit. That soundtrack is a technical marvel of sound engineering and an achievement in modern adaptive music, whether you like it or not.

[@williamsmithereens2535]

Doom is my favorite christian game

[@raulrosas5068]

William Smithereens same but i dont have it

[@Sutaokami]

@@raulrosas5068 congrats it five bucks on steam right now

[@isaacmacias7486]

Literally the most religious(ones that really promote demons as bad beings) game to exist I mean you are slaughtering demons for a living like all of hell fears you for a reason. I bet you the doom guy isnt even religious has probably atheist😂😂

[@philipmoore449]

William Smithereens it is literally that. I’ve never looked at it that way. That’s fuckin hilarious.

[@mycodenameism4331]

They should decide the next Pope based on who can beat doom on the hardest difficulty the fastest

[@TheMasterKrook]

I mean, yeah, your game may be metal, but have you ever played a game made out of actual metal? No, I didn't think so

[@Planet-tommioffical]

Yes i have. Have you ever played metal chess? I have

[@theblackbaron4119]

Listen to the doom soundtrack. It'll coat your balls in brass and then they drop so hard, that you're basically playing the game, because your sheer hate and pain against the hellspawn.

[@localboychopswoodlocalboym6028]

@@humanstandssans2484 looks aren't everything eh

[@ihatemegatron216]

Brutal legend?

[@MegaTrainGames1]

I use to play with knives does that count?

[@ninjaslash52_98]

He’s basically Metal Jesus saving humanity regardless of their sins only hunting the demons and those who would harm the whole of humanity

[@lau_taro0037]

*Metal Jesus* I never heard of that term but I'll start using it

[@romanminaster5180]

Metal Jesus meets Buff Jesus _what happens?_

[@TheRealJohnux]

"I don't save you from your Sins because I love humanity, I save you from your Sins because I FUCKING HATE DEMONS." -Metal Jesus, Doom Eternal(probably not)

[@DarthZ01]

Technically he's hunting those who harmed his pet bunny.

[@tannerman6851]

I'm just waiting for his left arm to just be a giant green tattoo.

[@theblackbaron4119]

I'M waiting for him to be completely camouflaged by the year 2020. So he can't be seen on Greenscreen anymore. I bet we just have to accept that he's supposedly there then.

[@probablyharmless69]

Doom Slayer’s arm armour

[@KlaverKatten]

... it's his right arm... XD

[@101animations3]

Getting tortured in hell *METAL MUSIC INTENSIFIES IN THE DISTANCE* me:oh your screwd now

[@ZargAtHome]

BFG Division is my background music for life

[@raymondlopez8023]

Like the Peter Griffin video?

[@ZargAtHome]

Yes only with machine guns and memes

[@ZargAtHome]

Julian Higuera until it is done, my brother.

[@turbochargedfilms]

I was about to say "Hellwalker for me" or something but, as someone who's spent 10x more time listening to the soundtrack than playing the game (makes a little more sense since I'm literally going to college for music production) I can honestly, truly say that the Doom OST is the only videogame OST (and one of maybe 4-5 albums in general) where I do not have a single favourite track because each fucking song is so fresh and unique and distinct and amazing. That being said, how the hell did Karl keep rambling on about chainsaws and technology and not mention Zynaptiq Morph?!

[@burnerheinz]

I prefer Argent combat

[@Verbose_Mode]

You don't have to be an author to review a book. You have to be able to _read the language_ to review a book. _That Polygon employee cannot read console FPS._

[@alyssabaerne9508]

The same as being movie literate inthat sense, game literacy just comes down to a basic understanding of genwral controls... obviously not something in polygon's skillset (for at least the person there they had play 2016 and eternal, don't know if they put the same person on those tho)

[@calemr]

@@alyssabaerne9508 If you're refering to the infamous Eternal review, where he flails around jumping in lava repeatedly: Yeah, that's Dean Takahashi, the man who got stuck on Cuphead's tutorial, and who gave Mass Effect 1 a bad score for its difficulty, then it turned out he didn't know how to level up. Like a blind man critiquing the Mona Lisa...

[@anna-flora999]

The problem is probably that there's not enough resources. If you put a journalist who specialises in sports simulation games in front of an fps because you don't want to hire enough fps guys (hypothetical example), of course it will be bad

[@McGunpla]

You don’t need to be able to make a movie or game to review one, you don’t need to be able to write a book to review one. But you do need to be able to hear and see to review a movie properly and you need to be able to read to review a book. Just like that you need to be able to play a game on order to review it.

[@MrRavellon]

He may be able to evaluate the acting and storytelling well enough but I doubt he is any good at evaluating the cinematography of the movie.

[@robertharris6092]

@@MrRavellon or. Choreography of fight scenes.

[@ironreed2654]

Any one who consumes content, can give their opinion of it. Some people will be better at it and have more relevant opinions based on their knowledge and experiences....I think we agree?

[@LilOleTinyMe]

Iron Reed well yeah. But by that logic a dog can review a book after eating it. It's the same logic as saying anyone can sing, even if they sound like a chalkboard meeting a dremel

[@christiancasaverdepertica1802]

@@ironreed2654 Of course. After all, the first amendment gives freedom of speech. Still, there is a certain point where a review becomes just completely and utterly worthless. The person who reviewed Doom made one such review

[@m.c.schock2933]

You guys should take a look at Gunther Plüschow. He was a German pilot in WWI, aerial explorer and author. His feats include: being the first pilot to score an air-to-air victory by using his Luger, traveling all the way from China back to Europe with very limited resources, being the only German POW to escape from Britain back to Germany in either world wars and being the first to fly over Cordillera Darwin, Cape Horn and Torres del Paine National Park. In other words: he's a forgotten legend.

[@ItsLynch1]

He’s not gaming so I don’t care

[@katherinestirling2440]

Bruh how the *hell* does it go from "Doom soundtracks have pentagrams in them because Mick wanted them. To some stuff about a german guy"

[@vd6070]

Hold on, do you mean this crazy bastard shot another guy using his Luger, while they were in Planes?

[@emceehamma3693]

Celtic Doppio pretty sure there are KZbin videos about what he did. If u like stuff like that, look up Roy Benevidez, the Vietnam war vet who saved an entire unit of guys single-handedly with only a knife.

[@sindri1447]

@@katherinestirling2440 it's an idea for another video. It's not a dick, you don't have to take it so hard.

[@poca2089]

Doom is dark and evil, but the best part is that it strays from being a sort of "dark edgy" and more of a "dark badass"

[@turbochargedfilms]

That's a lot to do with its self aware and self indulgent nature. Perfectly encapsulated by "Demonic Invasion in Progress"

[@turbochargedfilms]

@@glitchyjoe64 not sure what you mean lol I burst out laughing when me and my college classmates first saw that and that's exactly what Hugo Martin and the Id software team intended

[@christophercordero9352]

That’s because doom guy embodies the “fuck you” in the human spirit,no words,just actions

[@drewbeauchesne1116]

(plays G note) Like this?

[@darksyner7682]

To quote a great musician: “I’m a moth. And that’s a fucking huge flame”

[@metanightmare4454]

Guys, here's my argument in regard to game reviewers' skill: my left hand is so neurologically jacked up that I have to sit the controller down sideways next to me and just play with my right hand by using my thumb for the face buttons and right stick, my index finger for the left stick and d-pad, my middle finger for the left shoulder buttons and my damn pinky for right shoulder buttons. Baring that in mind, EVEN I CAN STILL MOVE AND AIM AT THE SAME GODDAMN TIME! If I can do that, I think it's fair to say that we're not expecting pro-level skills from these reviewers.

[@metanightmare4454]

@@killerexe007 I think you're not giving yourself enough credit. I've had two friends in the same situation (except it was COD MW2) and that toddler line may describe their first 3 matches. 5 hours later when we stopped, they were more than competent.

[@metanightmare4454]

@@killerexe007 My point is that it's really not as tough of a transition as one would think. Anyway, we don't actually know what this journalist's background is or even what they were playing on, so they very well might be playing on the platform that they're most familiar with. I mean why would they play on console if they're a member of PC master race and there's a perfectly viable version on PC?

[@reklessbravo2129]

@@killerexe007 if you're used to fps with a mouse and keyboard you still know what your supposed to do, and even though you have a hard time doing it with a controller you can still do it. This guy looks worse than my dad when he tried the game after not playing shooters for 20+ years

[@Foxxie0kun]

Microsoft has even made a special set of controller peripherals and programming software to help amputees and neurologically impaired people play games more easily. Things are looking far better for gamers who have various disabilities nowadays because of such advancements and products. Keep playing, friend!

[@brandonstewart6983]

@@metanightmare4454 if the game was given as a review it would be for PC. Both controller and mouse and keyboard could be used. The dude is just bad

[@zarnox3071]

Sean Bean isn't in the game as an Easter egg. That part lists people who worked on the game, one of which is actually named Sean Bean.

[@sharkie0042]

Zarnox who cares? Sean bean dies in the hitman universe as well

[@zarnox3071]

@@sharkie0042 The point is that it's a coincidence that someone named Sean Bean died in this case, as it isn't the Sean Bean known for dying.

[@TheRealJohnux]

@@zarnox3071 would have been A cool easter egg none the less. Gaming companies should ask him if he wants to be included in some way. I mean he was in Tes4 Oblivion and Died in there, so he should be cool with it.

[@KleioChronicles]

@@TheRealJohnux he was in Hitman as an assassination target. Fully modelled and voice acted by Sean Bean. You get to kill him many different ways. Hitman’s known for it’s irony, so much so that Sean Bean asks 47 how he would kill him.

[@anna-flora999]

@@KleioChronicles and him actually surviving.

[@MegatronPorter]

I sometimes feel like I'm not too great at video games, then I watch the Doom review from Polygon.

[@Funstun-yk7oo]

It raises anyones self esteem

[@rodeanalfanteforcadela7645]

Watch Dean Takahashi's gameplay video of Cup Head where he had a hard time at the tutorial. If it ain't enough, the same dude played Doom Eternal, I guess you already know what happened.

[@rodeanalfanteforcadela7645]

@@bored_236 I hope in a good way

[@stevenclark2188]

I love that they initially told him "no electric guitars" to prevent the music from sounding the same so he had to compose enough multi-layered synth noise to earn the right to bring in the guitars to balance it out.

[@1awster]

Yeah, plis the thing about creativity is that it trives under limitations.

[@alyssabaerne9508]

But still dafuq was bethesda/id software thinking doom without guitars ain't doom, it so f-ing baked into the franchise.

[@BofaTheAngryGod]

Props to karl for the buckethead reference. Just to let you know he uses an arcade button for his killswitch. Long live buckethead!

[@Whitefox-pc7lp]

Praise the Bucket man 💪🤘

[@JayJay-_]

Hear hear.. tom Morello used to kill with the switch too.. his Kenyan flag ibanez is awesome

[@teeniepeenie3148]

BFG Division's badass, but E1M1 will always be special to me

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

The shovel was a ground-breaking invention

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

@@ruikirisame1744 shout-out to all those F2p pyros who think that walking backwards will save them from the market gardener

[@toomanygrogs]

But it was the broom that really swept the nation

[@nobody-pr7fg]

@@3.2187_Kilometres shout-out to all the tunnel vision snipers who don't even see the market garden coming Ps I invented a new kind of flamethrower, its spreading like wildfire.

[@localboychopswoodlocalboym6028]

@@the-nightmayor Nice

[@BionicStar]

The chair never got a standing ovation I wonder why

[@RasoKye]

MG: are chainsaws an instrument? Squid: No, Mick Gordon, chainsaws are not an instrument. MG: Observe

[@necrodook]

Yes

[@MrFullbladder]

The guy from Kotaku claimed he was a PC only player, had never played a FPS game with a controller before. And when he rocked up to demo the game at ID they only had a controller set up.

[@elessarbre]

I just watched a bit of that video and it does look a lot like that. I'm a PC only player and my gameplay looks like this when I pick up a controller.

[@SpunkyMcGoo]

Thing is DOOM is the most intuitive FPS I've ever tried using a gamepad with. No excuse.

[@elessarbre]

@@SpunkyMcGoo You don't know how shit some people (me) are on a gamepad. But yeah, as a professional game reviewer he should probably learn at least the basics of console play.

[@alexmarks6085]

wondering if there's any articles of the actual person that played it or if they responded on twitter ect.. bet he must have got a lot of hate

[@ayacachotinemi4974]

Yeah, this was my first thought. I only have a PC, and on the rare occasions I've encountered a Playstation it's been really hard to overcome muscle memory and adapt to new controls. That said, I'm not fucking paid to play games.

[@Avarice0918]

The polygon gameplay made me lose a few brain cells thinking about how bad that guys coordination is

[@BallisticGhast6]

Definitely not The Phantom of the Opera I still think IGN was worse when they played Sonic Unleashed. They acted as if they don’t know how to work a controller at all. That was 10 years ago

[@lostinthemasses]

Buckethead's killswitch is literally an arcade button. I've installed them in several clients' guitars as well as a couple of my own.

[@weaponizedpizza8825]

the polygon doom gameplay looks a bit like goldeneye, where you couldn't walk and aim at the same time.

[@rollins1212]

Keeping on the reviewers sucking at games we have the ign reviewer that literally forgot to play half of resident evil 2 remake and gave it a score without knowing about the two b scenarios

[@mpw26]

So mainstream game reviewers are full of shit and don't know what they're doing? OhMyGoWhoWould'veThought

[@shmoopy3507]

"Reviewers Who Can't Play Games" Did you mean by: "Literally every game journalist"?

[@kain4892]

Hellwalker is the song with the chainsaw btw.

[@13BlueCrimson]

Before Finish Watching: The Polygon situation reminded me of a game reviewer for Cup Head couldn’t finish the tutorial level. After finish watching: Well damn, I’m glad they bring it up.

[@BainesMkII]

Some video game reviewers have openly admitted to not liking playing video games. Some will say it isn't fun when it is a job. Some don't get to pick what they review, and get stuck with genres they dislike or aren't good at. Others are just really awful in general. Dean Takahashi, the person with the infamous Cuphead review, had been roasted in the past for embarrassments such as his Mass Effect review as well as statements about KOTOR. Then there are the classics like the reviewers who get so much basic information wrong that the question isn't whether they are awful, but instead whether they even played the game at all. Not to long ago we had a guy who arguably wasn't even writing his reviews; Filip Miucin had so many plagiarism claims laid against him that IGN felt it would be safer to just remove everything he'd ever written for them. And in recent years we've had another twist to the formula, writers who see writing about a video game not as an end goal, but just as a tool for promoting some tangential message or agenda. (I don't mean just social justice stuff; you see this with other things as well.)

[@mpw26]

And even more recently some IGN reviewer "played through" the new Resident Evil 2 remake but they didn't even know about the other campaign

[@BainesMkII]

@@mpw26 Yeah, IGN "updated" the review to brush it off like it was some minor error. Which itself isn't a new tactic. I remember years ago when Gamespot "reviewed" Samurai Warriors 3. It was a basic review; the actual game parts read like someone reciting the "new features" list he found online. The truly damning part was the historical background part; the reviewer had clearly just looked up "Warring States" on Google or Wikipedia, and didn't realize that he'd picked the wrong war in the wrong country in the wrong millennia. A detail that *anyone* who played the game would catch, that anyone who even looked at the back of the box should catch, and that most should have caught by looking at the name of the game. The review got completely roasted in comments, so Gamespot just silently corrected the text and wiped the user comments.

[@mpw26]

@@BainesMkII Holy fuck. I feel like the only good reviewers are on youtube, like Yong Yae or Cr1tikal(penguinz0), the more shit someone gives to the gaming industry and exposes their horrible practices the more trustworthy they are, an example would be Jim Sterling and his crusade against micro-transactions.

[@TwiggehTV]

@@mpw26 Honestly if i want an opinion about a game im prolly about to buy then i check like 5-7ish reviews on KZbin. And i only listen to small underdogs, never any big established channels because i cant trust them. It feels weird but this is the only case (i think) where a checkmark next to a name makes me LESS likely to trust them.

[@mpw26]

@@TwiggehTV That's fair

[@sweetdjfd]

To be fair i have the same problem playing games on console. i've gotten so used to playing keyboard/mouse, that i can't use thumbsticks on a controller to save my life.

[@KodyackCasual]

I feel like they need some level of ability to play video games to review them accurately. The argument about not having to be a director to review a film is honestly shit, because you still need to understand how a film works and what makes it good. ya can't know what makes a videogame good if you legitimately can't play it, it's like reviewing a movie without watching it really, or reviewing food without eating it.

[@10hogada]

You don't need to be a writer to review a book, but you do need to be able to read.

[@evilgeek87]

On the one hand, an important part of a game bring good is your ability to pick it up and start enjoying it pretty quickly and not feel like you're fighting the controls to do what you want. Especially a game like Doom, you should start to be able to feel like a badass within the first 15 minutes, not the ultimate badass, but badass enough to kill a bunch of hell spawn in space. That being said though, for a professional game review, the reviewer has to be competent enough to get through the game to see if it keeps out bills momentum, gets repetitive, etc. The analogue of reviewing a film didn't require you to be a filmmaker would translate to you don't have to be a developer to review games, which is also very true. Also, my girlfriend started getting back into gaming since I updated my PC, and she only uses a controller and never played any modern FPS titles, and she was doing better than that within the first few minutes of RE7. I know it's not as intense, and she was far from good at adding and moving, but she at least understood what to do just didn't have the reflexes yet to actually center a shot, but she could run around pretty damn well. And coming from mouse and keyboard is no excuse because it's the same hands for the same functions. I had issues retraining myself on a controller after only playing on mouse/keyboard then not playing at all for about a year or so, but it didn't take long to figure out what to do, it just took time to git gud and not overcompensate on the analog stick.

[@KodyackCasual]

@@evilgeek87 On the other, part of enjoying a movie is being able to understand the dialogue and culture of it. you don't expect someone to review a movie that they literally didn't understand, aye? Games are a learned skillset/hobby.

[@Albatorwow]

The polygon review makes the sme mistakes I made as a child. We were meant to eat some melted brie on crackers at a friend's house, but I did not understand that I was meant to eat the melted part, and was trying to eat the rind. Awful experience, and if someone asked me the day after if eating Brie is any good, I would have ranted that it's the worst thing ever. But I had no idea what I was even doing.

[@roboticjanitor3332]

You need to know how to read review a book

[@smellfish1430]

Gotta love it when the green screen is reacting to the green tattoo on his arm🤣

[@AnnnaKathryn]

*Dunks on Polygon's Doom video*

[@HQ_Default]

7:33 There actually was a developer who was just coincidentally named "Sean Bean" that worked on Doom 2016, so that was still one of the developer's names. It is pretty fitting tho.

[@sammccomiskey5882]

Buckethead plays his Gibson signature guitars, which has two killswitches, because one just isn't kill-y enough. Facts right back at 'cha

[@nastyfoxboy5114]

When you have green on your brand new tattoo while using a green screen x') One of the best review of doom I've seen. Music wise, you get it all. On point !

[@MrBlueBurd0451]

Karl, they're NOT paid to play video games. They're paid to WRITE ABOUT video games. These are entirely different things, and the sheer inability of the so-called 'video game media' to actually understand what it is that gamers like and want has been a meme for years now.

[@nobody-pr7fg]

I'm not sure I'd this is serious but if you are going to write about video games you might want to know the basics about video games

[@nickstav08]

Go watch ign's demo of metro exodus, the guy playing was as bad as the guy playing doom, then ign gave the game a shit review

[@justawarlord]

@@nickstav08 ohh hey i review cars but i cant actually drive ohh hey i review planes but i cant actually pilot a plane ohh hey i review pizzas but i cant chew so i have to be force fed paste directly into my stomach this shit doesnt work if your supposed to review a video game you must be able to beat it on the default 3 modes easy normal hard

[@nickstav08]

@@justawarlord exactly

[@nickstav08]

@Garrett McBride not a score but it was more bitching about a demo heres part of what the guy reviewing said, "There’s some really aggressive motion blur on the console version (which in this build, couldn’t be turned off) which makes turning a bit headache inducing. Guns feel heavy, movement feels awkward and bullets feel ineffective, but all of that is entirely by design. Survival in the Metro world isn’t supposed to be a walk in the park. Even with thumbstick sensitivity ramped all the way up to the top of the sliders, it still feels like Artyom is covered in a nuclear treacle. When being pursued by some ghouls through a warehouse, climbing scaffold in an attempt to get to the safety of the rooftops, I fell off a couple of times because I couldn’t turn fast enough or with enough precision. And, although a stealthy approach is recommended, I found it way too easy to rush down a pack of bandits and use the melee kill attack right in front of them, because the AI just didn’t cope with the rush-in strategy!"

[@joekelso7428]

10:41 Sounds like someone hasn't watched Game Grumps...

[@lukedeakin7124]

Or Achievement Hunter

[@winterlou]

Karl: “...he can’t walk and aim at the same time!” Me: he... hehe... what an idiot... right...?

[@MrRavellon]

WinterLou Yeah, it's so simple! WASD to move, Mouse to aim and shoot! Oh, right, he's using gamepad... Hmmm... I think you use sticks for that? There are two, right?

[@TheftTone6]

@@MrRavellon and you call yourselves the pc master race. And you cant understand how use a controller. Please more like PC Pesants. Git gud scrub lord.

[@MrRavellon]

Weeaboo Jones but why would I want to lower myself to such a limited control mechanism? They have what, 8 buttons?

[@elgurkus6885]

MrRavellon they have less buttons on their controller, than about our pc gamers on their mouse

[@winterlou]

Cool I started a fight

[@psirenn8049]

I video game reviewer can't play videogames is like a food critic who can't taste or eat the food

[@SirCheeseEater]

Or Literally Has no Tongue... nor sense of smell

[@milanbrkic1001]

Anything with Doom in it seems to be amazing.

[@milanbrkic1001]

Ben Gingras I am not aware of that movie, will search it up and watch it.

[@milanbrkic1001]

restlessfrager Oof

[@lucyac3]

do not watch it

[@brendanboozer3802]

As far as the chainsaw, in the interview Mick Gordon says that he used some piece of technology that could combine sounds, and he used that tech to combine the tone of the already distorted guitar and the chainsaw to once again pay homage to the original.

[@S_O_O_C]

I still actively use Windows Media Player for the visualizer, I had to manually download it from some legacy page for Win10

[@leljdam3189]

The polygon guy was probibaly saying "where's the ads button?"

[@wnbetv]

I absolutely love Mick Gordon! On top of the creative genius that he is, he just seems like a really cool guy. Listening to all the panels and interviews where he talks about the making of the soundtrack is really enjoyable, even if you're not into music production. I highly recommend it! Also for anyone wondering, the track with the chainsaw riff is called "Hellwalker" (aka the main menu theme) :)

[@Abadhan]

I turned around and suddenly a realise I have watched 10 of your videos in a row without realising it. Lol You've got my subscription!

[@NotSoMax]

I already knew about this because I watched that GDC talk, I highly recommend it, it’s incredible. He also included the message “Jesus loves you” if you reverse it at parts but no one made a big deal about that. The dude combined a guitar with the sound of the original doom chainsaw. What a bad ass.

[@_s_9920]

For those missing Windows Media Player, it can be found on the WayBackMachine and installed near flawlessly on Windows 10.

[@ethanw7900]

Was just listening to the doom soundtrack when this video was uploaded

[@TheRobinWaldie]

When Siri came out in grade 7 my friend had his call him Lesbian. Once in class when it was dead silent it went off in his pocket, everyone heard the iconic “beep beep”, all turned their head to him and after a few seconds “I’m sorry Lesbian I didn’t understand what you said”. Everyone started laughing and the teacher got so mad she pulled him off to the side to talk about what the word meant. Just such an iconic moment engraved in my memory.

[@AshesWorkshop]

‘One of the most’ more like ‘THE most’ metal game ever

[@Dekoded]

this soundtrack is in my gym playlist no other songs make me wanna go as crazy as these, especially rip & tear

[@hackinofdamindz]

I think the E1M1 riff is basically a carbon copy of hooked by D.R.I

[@NUGGETWOOOOOOOOYEAAAHH]

In the new Doom game, if you listen to the full menu song, you can hear Daisy's theme if you switch to Mono Audio

[@souptime8420]

Normally It's just screaming but on Mono it's Daisy's theme played in the most ominous way possible

[@peakcartoon]

So here's the real question, does Mick Gordon... Djent?

[@mikeCD62]

Considering that Matt Halpern contributed to the album and was the drummer in that live performance, I'd say we can safely conclude that Mick Gordon djents

[@nightcorelucario2218]

I've been looking for what that sound thing was that pulsed along to my brothers music when I was little for years now. thank youfor helping me find what it was

[@elitemantis]

I play shooters since Wolfenstein 3D. I tried playing a shooter with a controller once (the new Doom actually), I was unable to do anything. If he was PC only player I can totally see this happening. I have no idea WHY you would give a shooter on a controller to a PC only reviewer, but that is obviously what happened there.

[@elitemantis]

Notice I did mention I have no idea why this happened. It's just that not being able to play controller FPS while being an FPS enthusiast is possible.

[@uhoh6706]

Using the “I’m a PC only player” line is a horrible excuse. He’s a “game journalist” for fucks sake. He should know how to handle a fucking controller. It’s his job

[@anna-flora999]

@@uhoh6706 yes, because with how diverse games are, it's realistic to expect every journalist to be knowledgeable in every field. Specialisation isn't a thing.

[@thecosmonaut9322]

I think my favourite part of the making of the soundtrack is the morph software that he used to interpolate the characteristics of the chainsaw from the original Doom with the guitars for new Doom which is the chainsaw bit that you mentioned. Absolute metal.

[@cheeseninja1115]

DOOM(2016)'s soundtrack is so good it could become its own record and probably be a best seller even if the gamers didn't buy it.

[@cheeseninja1115]

@@SupremeRuleroftheWorld I had no idea, I new the soundtrack was out there but that's awesome.

[@TwiggehTV]

Its even on vinyl.

[@ProphetJigalo]

Bro u just unlocked a hidden memory with that music visualizor thing

[@thebeefchief9802]

Doom also had a subliminal message saying “ Jesus loves you”

[@soupisfornoobs4081]

It wasn't really subliminal, just a reversed audio clip (unless that's what subliminal means, for whatever reason)

[@seanlenihan6706]

I literally just earned my platinum for doom 2016 in preparation for Doom Eternal. And of course the only 3 I didn't have were snapmap related achievements

[@levi454]

Winamp is more 90's than windows media player

[@BigJubble]

I was studying sound tech when Doom 2016 came out, I had a field day listening to the sound track and learning what he did tech-wise.

[@wolfgangvallick5666]

10:57 how was that reenactment so damn smooth?

[@ironbanjo3339]

We used to drop tabs, Throw the visualizer on the old tube big screen, Send the audio through the old sony duel deck home surround sound..... proceed to pour black tooth grins! The music for this game spoke to me and all my weird nerdy metal friends. DOOM was a damn pioneer for industrial metal music....

[@vince_theginger3348]

8:50 I don't know man, doom has some pretty anti demon messages in there

[@williams8977]

Glad I just found this channel. Gonna binge it.

[@technoodle3181]

you should have gotten a purely green tattoo :)

[@burntferidgerator6848]

The doom intro is one of the best game intros ever, getting greeted by the man who started it and smashing the screen into the wall and heavy metal starting

[@jamestopley5907]

I played cuphead with my grandma and she did it in a minute how did it take him that long

[@CocoMura]

Love your content. Lil pokemon trivia from spectrograms, the Unown appear in the Lavander town music.

[@evanhorn951]

My favorite sound track is the one where they say I love Jesus

[@JohnDoe-ud8fn]

He went a step up for Eternal, synthesizing a fucking lawnmower. Mick Gordon is seriously insane.

[@thrownswordpommel7393]

The e1m1 song sounds more like painkiller from Judas Priest

[@KlaverKatten]

I thought that the painkiller album was made after the Doom 1 and 2 games, but Wikipedia says that the album was released in 1990 and the Doom 1 game was from 1992 (as far as I remember). I still think that it sounds closer to Metallica, as Painkiller sounds much different to me, but I can't say that it couldn't have been inspired by both. :)

[@tanner8822]

MJK: Haha I put the Fibonacci sequence in my music Mick Gordon: Hold my beer

[@THESCUMMBAR]

Windows Media Player was a scrub-tier clone of Winamp.

[@misterlobsterman]

I still use Winamp. Not even ashamed.

[@hellixx256]

The guy playing drums with Mick on stage was Matt Halpern of Periphery, the band that just released an album called Hail Stan

[@Aghjkddd]

FOKK OFF CLIPPY

[@mal0561]

“Clippy fuck off go away I’m having an eargasm”

[@deviant_ghost]

*MY FAN THEORY ABOUT THE UPCOMING GAME, DOOM Eternal* THE THEORY: The Doomslayer in DOOM Eternal is NOT the same Doomslayer from DOOM (2016) THE THEORY EXPLAINED: We may not yet know what exactly became of our beloved Slayer after the cliffhanger ending in Doom'16, however, we might be able to unravel the aftermath and predict what we might expect to see in the upcoming sequel. I feel there is a STRONG possibility that the original Doomslayer from Doom'16 was somehow forcefully mutated into the very thing he hates most, a demon of Hell. This demon's name was revealed to be: "The Corrupted Marauder". (Stay with me, it will start to make sense.) During the official gameplay reveal, the presenters briefly showed us an image (PICTURE BELOW) of a tall demon who JUST SO HAPPENED to be wearing a set of armor that is in many ways EXTREMELY similar to the armor warn by the Slayer in Doom'16. The folks presenting the gameplay footage even said something like, "See that suit? It's part of the story." Obviously hinting that this character plays, at the very least, a key role in the story being told. Speaking of clues, it's also worth noting that the Marauder is carrying an exact model of the original super shotgun used by the Doomslayer in Doom'16. Coincidence? Or is it the very same shotgun? Okay, so I think the reason why the armor looks so similar to Doomslayer's original armor is simply because IT ACTUALLY IS THE SAME ARMOR! I believe it's possible that the Doomslayer was mutated and made into a demon( i.e... CORRUPTION). Obviously this would have to be done against his will. But keep in mind Samuel knew the Slayer would kill him as soon as he had the chance. Samuel Hayden is very intelligent, perhaps more intelligent than the slayer in many respects. It could be that Hayden lured him into a trap in order to be rid of him for good. I could see Hayden sending the Slayer off into a corner of Hell from which there was seemingly no escape which could have led to the eventual corruption of his body, soul, and yes, his armor. Sounds silly to say armor can mutate, but this isn't regular armor by any means. It is, in all regards, connected to the Slayer. The lore in Doom'16 more or less implies that the Doomslayer's armor CANNOT be activated by anyone but the Slayer himself! He is the only one capable of dawning it, yet we see this demon (known as the Corrupted Marauder) not only wearing ridiculously similar armor, but we also see that the orange/red light on his chest is glowing and functional, which tells us the suit IS activated and it's not just scrap armor that some demon strapped to himself. And the fact that the suit is clearly operational could very well be an intentional clue for us to discover and thus realize that the Corrupted Marauder is actually our original Doomslayer! I mean, even the Marauder's own name implies CORRUPTION, which points to the likely possibility that the Marauder was not always "corrupt/mutated/evil". He was once something/someone else. Now, it may sound impossible that the Slayer could ever be made into a chaotic beast of the realm we know as Hell. But remember that many demons were once human. It would take A LOT more to transform the Slayer into a servant of darkness, but he is still somewhat human, and all humans are flawed no matter how strong-willed. Never say never. Okay, so IF the Doomslayer from 2016 really is a demon, then who could possibly be the Slayer in Eternal??? My theory to that is this: The Doomslayer in DOOM Eternal is none other than........ the 2ND PLAYER FROM DOOM 1 AND 2 !!!........ Alright I know how that might sound, but think about this: You may recall that it was entirely possible to play through both games with TWO Doomguys (now known as Doomslayers). And seriously, how cool would it be if the devs decided to include Player 2 as an official part of the modern lore?! And now picture this in your mind: Samuel Hayden thinks that he has rid himself of Doomslayer's tyranny, only to be confronted by another Doomslayer that no one remembered or even knew existed. The legends only spoke of one Slayer. No one knew where the other one was, but when Hell is unleashed upon Earth... this is when he reveals himself. He then discovers the fate of his brother-in-arms (Player 1). Our new Slayer then hunts down Hayden and murders him for all he had done. After Hayden is dead, our new Slayer takes the glowing red demon sword and picks up where his lost brother left off. Maybe he even tries to seek out his brother, only to discover the Corrupted Maruader. Alright, now If I'm at all correct, (and honestly I think there might be some actual truth in this) then this would completely explain why the Slayer swapped armor between Doom'16 and the upcoming Doom Eternal. It was NEVER really the armor that got swapped out at all. The only thing getting swapped out is the Slayer !!! In a nutshell, The Slayer we once knew in 2016 became the Corrupted Marauder and now it's up to the lesser known Slayer to pick up the slack. We theoretically enter the game as a different Slayer with his very own unique set of ancient power armor. Judging by the gameplay, he might actually be angrier than the original slayer as well, thus making him the most dangerous of the two despite being the least famous by far. And if any of this turns out to be true, you better be prepared to face your fallen comrade (Player 1 Doomslayer/The Corrupted Marauder) in what will probably be one of the hardest boss fights in the game. UPDATE: Also note that the Doomslayer in Eternal clearly has a totally different helmet, yet it bares the same marking he received from the Seraphim. Are we to assume that the Seraphim gave the Slayer multiple sets of armor with the same marking? Unlikely. The lore mentions only one set of ancient armor. I believe that Eternal is actually teasing a different Slayer who also receieved power from a seraphim and was bestowed his own set of ancient Praetor armor. Perhaps it will turn out that there are multiple slayers. It might even be a safe assumption to say that God himself sent the Seraphim out to recruit the angriest and strongest warriors to be turned into His personal demon slayers for all time. The Corrupted Marauder seen here: www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/96bd0p/really_excited_about_the_marauder_especially/ HELMET COMPARISONS here: i.ytimg.com/vi/f1osBaT7CYk/maxresdefault.jpg

[@nargacugaking9767]

Umm*points to demon texts saying “incorruptible, unyielding then looks back* yeah maybe they are copying the slayer like when an enemy has a cool plane then the opposing army makes their own version

[@MariusPiselli]

Yes, you can be right when they said that Doom is now a universe, and no longer just a game that automatically means multiple temporary or multiverse lines, so different realities,i agree with you

[@denmark5354]

I love the fact that part of your right arm has become part of the greenscreen

[@GreatgoatonFire]

All this fact fiendery is taking its toll it see. Part of your arm's missing there.

[@DanePavitt]

What absolutely breaks me about the symbols in the waveforms is the overly zealous religious types who found them & 'exposed' them online. "You know what? I bet there's some subtle satanic imagery hidden in this game somewhere. Imma go rooting through the source files to find it."

[@redrumresistance8864]

9:12-14:12: It's like a deaf person reviewing music.

[@comicsans3421]

like a blind person reviewing movies

[@FOWBOWZ]

honestly, I've never once watched your videos, but I have always listened to them as though it was a podcast, and I did not know that you post facts on the screen. Now I feel like I need to rewatch everything! Lol

[@Thedisastermaster9]

With ur last comparison of the polygon reviewer I think u miss compared. A More accurate comparison being, should a book reviewer know how to read well, should a film critic be able to see, should a music critic be able to hear.

[@noahgelbart5058]

When you are in a 1v5 cluch and your party is quite and everyone starts to screaming at Cortana to shut up.

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

The problem with places like polygon and kotaku is that I would bet all but a couple of people tops are activists first and gamers second... if at all. They will have people who review a game just to shit on it because of what genre of game it is.

[@Sleksin]

They do seem to have some real idiots working there. At the same time, polygon has BDG so that lifts my view of them at least a tiny bit.

[@Stainless_Steel_Microwave]

I love how they don't take the images away, its a chaotic energy and i love it

[@Warvvolf]

That Metallica riff sounds like it's the sample.

[@Warvvolf]

@Ragnar So Metallica did the Master of Puppets soundtrack?

[@Warvvolf]

@Ragnar OK so I think you're just pointing out the correct name of the Metallica song. But that has nothing to do with with my comments because it still sounds like Metallica "sampled" the Doom music rather than it actually being the other way around.

[@Warvvolf]

@@QuakeGamerROTMG So?

[@SpiralingOut.ofControl]

Metallica wrote and released master of puppets and no remorse far before doom came out. The doom sound track was heavily inspired by the thrash metal artists of the time and a big influence was metallica.

[@Warvvolf]

@@SpiralingOut.ofControl Yeah. And?

[@jffry890]

This video was made before Halo Infinite. Clippy lives on as a Halo emblem and the fucking paperclip icon when you send someone an attachment in Xbox messenger.