this is real motor journalism. thx for this, need more true compariosn
@tomjohnson6952 жыл бұрын
Brian Deegan was trying to defame you.
@HPRaceDevelopment2 жыл бұрын
@@tomjohnson695 fa sho
@lizzydog57282 жыл бұрын
The realization that i never came into corners fast enough to bottom my suspension is not cool! Great video
@keelangerken51542 жыл бұрын
Modern Stock EFI 4 stroke bikes have extremely touchy throttle response and almost a dangerous torque characteristic right off idle. They do this to sell more bikes as a novice or amateur rider will touch the throttle and have an instant feeling of "Oh this bike fast af boi". Whereas a racer wants a smoother, almost easier response off idle to save their arms from pumping up for the next 20-30 min.
@CmooreSinse2 жыл бұрын
Clearly you haven’t ridden a 2018+ Yamaha. Best linear power delivery of all manufacturers.
@keelangerken51542 жыл бұрын
@@CmooreSinse I have, still very touchy throttle response off idle, in all maps. Try riding an early efi Honda, the throttle almost acts like traction control. You can ride it for laps without getting a pump.
@samoliverio74552 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Went from a carbed 2 stroke to a 2018 kx250 and that throttle response was so weird when I first started riding it. I actually had a DRZ400S I would sometimes ride trails and I honestly used to wring that things neck when it came to the throttle. It built and was so smooth where as my KX was jerking me around the trails behind my house and I was way more cautious. I really wanna get better on my kx because I know it can do so much more than what I'm currently capable of.
@Yz4Life2 жыл бұрын
@@keelangerken5154 I’m going to have to agree with you man my old 05 crf 250r was like easy mode compared to some of the bikes I’ve ridden. They definitely orient the bikes these days for more low end torque, (except Yamaha I find they like to scream out) a few changes and you can move the power on a 250f to where ever you want
@madurosfinancialadvisor13602 жыл бұрын
Though it was my throttle control on my factory edition! Whiplash everytime I try to take off, was like man I'm rusty! 🤣🤣🤣 Thank you for clarification, it's not me!
@richcornwall45672 жыл бұрын
Josh, MXA is lucky to have you, your purpose and passion shine through. 👍
@comebackkid39312 жыл бұрын
I love this but can y’all test somewhere other than glen helen . The rest of the country don’t ride on weird California dirt California tracks are an eye sore . Sorry if I pissed y’all off but it is true
@jpesicka9992 жыл бұрын
I mean...diff tires diff track is a diff test but this is a bike test so who cares. Just trying to see how much better the PC bike is.
@Davido502 жыл бұрын
Upper Midwest dirt is superior.
@mikeyb4382 Жыл бұрын
Definetly a very technical track where it’s gonna need you to be comfortable in the bike vs like east coast tacky dirt where traction ain’t as much of a problem
@motoxmatt2 жыл бұрын
Always the best info! Thanks Josh!
@douglassloan68312 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. It makes complete sense that the motor would be mapped to kick harder in the higher RPMs since that's basically where those guys live during a race. Full throttle or full brakes. Awesome video boys.
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to have a 3rd bike. Tricked out with all off the shelf aftermarket performance mods (not cosmetic)
@Davido502 жыл бұрын
Lookin at '23 KX250F at my local dealer now! Lots updates to already great motorcycle. 👍
@HPRaceDevelopment2 жыл бұрын
stock motor pro chassis - i bet less than 1 second
@roymorales36542 жыл бұрын
Could you make the same video but with husky rockstar edition and normal edition 250 ?
@dustin90352 жыл бұрын
4:10, amazing looking picture
@shmirdonkin Жыл бұрын
Hahaha. I was at glen Helen when you guys were doing this. I was thinking to myself "oh look this guy thinks he's Joe shimoda" 😂
@Kawiboy2 жыл бұрын
Love the Versus series Josh 👊 👍
@quintinlindsey7967 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have to ride Joes bike like a two smoke!!!💪
@OneSon7442 жыл бұрын
I love my Kawi ... and my Yamaha and my Honda and my Montesa.
@Davido502 жыл бұрын
Yeaaa get em all. I collect em too.
@dirtbikesfordinner37062 жыл бұрын
I thought Factory was just a sticker on side of your bike😅
@tychase24322 жыл бұрын
Jerky throttle response pulls you out of ruts. Makes sense in supercross though i bet they have a bit more snap
@paulelm4645 Жыл бұрын
Wat year model is shomads bike
@paulelm46452 жыл бұрын
U need to compare his current bike vs 2023 production bike
@paulelm46452 жыл бұрын
Wat year is Shomdas bike
@redneckracing5562 жыл бұрын
So essentially it is a 4 stroke that feels like a 2 stroke
@Davido502 жыл бұрын
No not at all. No 2-stroke is faster than a modern 4-stroke around MX track . Period.
@TrueNorth132 жыл бұрын
Is this even a debate lol
@daneyoung77702 жыл бұрын
I can only dream to throw a leg over a PC bike one day.
@64maxpower Жыл бұрын
Of course you are going to pump the pro circuit bike, you want a ride from Mitch you're not going to bad mouth his bike
@connuevepalabras2 жыл бұрын
Kx -F .. F .. NO engañen a la gente. Two stroke forever
@maxrpm22152 жыл бұрын
Forget about the 4strokes show us the KTM300SX now you have the best of both worlds.
@user-yn5xg1pn8qBOLEIT Жыл бұрын
I'm? Wow to yo nice race bike good.
@SheepEatingDuck Жыл бұрын
Isn’t FACTORY really STOCK..?
@cw37288 ай бұрын
KX250? Have we dropped the F nowadays?
@johncoleman24952 жыл бұрын
Those are KX250f's, KX250's smoke!
@paulelm46452 жыл бұрын
That's not current factory bike his bike has SR on it this one dont
@ADN19962 жыл бұрын
these are kx250f not kx250
@phat_wrat48032 жыл бұрын
They dont have the f anymore because they dont make 2 strokes
@dasquadratohneecken70902 жыл бұрын
Please dont Write kx if its a Kxf Brooooo
@cxbra2 жыл бұрын
These arent KX250s, they're KX250F's. 4 strokes dont do it for me, I was misled haha.
@dirtbikesfordinner37062 жыл бұрын
these are Not Kx250"s
@upstategearheads2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are
@canamxmr47602 жыл бұрын
They dropped the Fs since the no longer make the 250 in a 2 stroke.