John Fogerty Says Creedence Clearwater Revival BETRAYED Him

[@FactsVerse]

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[@mikeohagan2206]

John was sued for sounding too much like himself on the centerfield album. he won.

[@danielfisch389]

And according to John, it was Stu Cook who informed Zaentz about the alleged similarity. Zaentz, being the bastard he was, then decided to sue John. Without Cook, the lawsuit wouldn‘t have happened most likely.

[@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782]

​@@danielfisch389 Is that in the book, "Fortune Son" which John wrote?

[@Piggy-Oink-Oink]

@@danielfisch389 Now I understand why John wouldn't play with the other CCR members at the R&R HOF.. John's a very decent person. I;ve met him several times. Very kind.

[@brentharmonmusicproduction]

Just saw John back Saturday August 17th. He now owns his Creedence songs. Thanks to his wife Julie helping John in buying, it back along with Irving Azoff help.

[@Robert-tj3qq]

That's good news,thank you 🌞

[@FactsVerse]

Interesting, thanks for sharing this info! Much appreciated 💗

[@haliaeetus8221]

Great to hear

[@brucehartnell1475]

Cuthbert in Eugene?

[@brentharmonmusicproduction]

@@brucehartnell1475 Yes

[@misisipimike8020]

I lived next to Saul Zaentz in Pacific Heights in SF. He parked his Rolls Royce in our building's parking garage right next to my beat up old Honda Civic. It was all I could do to not ding that a-hole's Rolls everyday. I had rented the spot to him not knowing who he was. I went to the Fantasy Records building not knowing what was inside (it was a plain looking building). I walked in and saw hundreds of gold records on the wall. I was whisked up to his office where I met a small man who was every bit the description of Scrooge. A true rip off artist who stole from America's best rock songwriter of the sixties.

[@davequ]

" ... ♫♪ Zaentz can't dance ♫♪♫--------- ♪ but he'll steal your moneyyyyy ... ♫ " =D

[@WineSippingCowboy]

I passed through that neighborhood many times in the 1970s and 1980s. Because I was a young boy 👦 then, I did not notice! 🤯. Same deal with a few shops where Chris Isaak and Fee Waybill used to shop 🛍 then! 🤯No security cameras or cellphones then!

[@Valkonnen]

@@davequ That'll teach him...

[@davequ]

Nothing will "teach him" ... he's dead. =D

[@shanewoods1980]

So you “rented the spot to him” while he drove a Rolls Royce and you the renter drove a POS Honda civic??

[@vgshwk]

I kind of liken this to Don and Mel having nothing to do with Mark Farner but Don and Mel tour as grand funk not the same band.

[@QuarrellaDeVil]

And after all three of them got screwed by Terry Knight.

[@BoxofRain-ff4td]

The album “Mardi Gras” speaks volumes about where the deep end of the talent pool was

[@dancingtrout6719]

its too bad john didnt know where this was headed ... and fired the band members one by one for not being able to come out with a Song & he would have still been ccr .. and then got a judge too tear up that raping contract of a Artist... you give john a time machine and he knows exactly what too do..!

[@AndrewReevesArt]

Totally - he wrote the only decent song on it

[@Phillip-y6d]

@@AndrewReevesArt bullcrap, Sail Away and Tearin up the County are more than just decent songs

[@MrOctober44]

​@@Phillip-y6dyou're in an extreme minority with that opinion.

[@Phillip-y6d]

@@MrOctober44 ok Lady Gaga

[@bryanpalmer9660]

I remember CCR well,their songs were a part of my childhood and I think it's sad that a band that gave so much joy with songs like Proud Mary,Bad Moon Rising(one of my favorites)Travellin band end in acrimony,bitterness and resentment due to bad decisions,egos and legal troubles-sad Auckland New Zealand 2024

[@sinnersometimes]

This was a problem for many 60's bands. Managers and record labels ripping off the musicians many bands to this day still get no money from their life's greatest work. The manager of CCR destroyed what should've been a band that produced dozens of albums. Truly a tragedy.

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

John was more responsible than anyone for thier downfall.

[@davidkirkham6497]

@@sgt.thundercok4704 Why is that? Were you inside John’s head?

[@MetFan37]

True. Read what happened to It's A Beautiful Day because of their "manager", Matthew Katz.

[@mrwilliamwonder]

John Fogerty is the Hank Williams of his generation. Seems like just a regular guy who could rip songs from the heart. He's a great writer and singer.

[@FactsVerse]

So true! What is your favorite song of John?

[@mrwilliamwonder]

@@FactsVerse I always liked see the light for one.

[@ThumbinRadio]

This comparison makes sense.

[@mrwilliamwonder]

@@ThumbinRadio I think Bruce Springsteen said it first.

[@jawhitten]

The song 'Effigy' is so underrated. Way too many classics to say I have a favorite though.

[@FlipDahlenburg]

He didn't INSIST that the others compose music and go democratic, they demanded it, and he didn't fight them.

[@chasspeed]

That is a total lie.

[@davidkirkham6497]

@@chasspeed How do you know?

[@mikemulligan5731]

@@chasspeed They demanded they get some say in what the songs were going to be on the next album, and the album sold horribly in comparison to their previous offerings, truth. Doug and Cliff were not CCR, John was, alone! They should have been happy to be along for the ride..

[@danielfisch389]

@@chasspeed it‘s in John‘s memoir. The two backstabbers, who later allied with Zaentz, wanted their songs on the album, and John agreed, although he knew their songs were mediocre at best,

[@EasyG24]

@@danielfisch389 what John insisted on was that they sing lead on their own tunes, and he would basically lay back and play rhythm guitar. That was never what they wanted. They wanted to contribute tunes, not necessarily have to do the leads. They were never criticizing John's obvious musical ability, including writing. To this day they don't. For years at the end of CCRv shows they thanked him for writing such incredible tunes.

[@Revolver1701]

The less talented members of CCR were jealous of John Fogerty. His songs were the reason for their success.

[@FactsVerse]

So true! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. What other types of video would you like to see on our channel?

[@Revolver1701]

@@FactsVerse Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Snubs. Three Dog Night. JD Souther Little Feat Dixie Dregs Georgia Satellites Ray Charles Johnny Cash Kris Kristofferson

[@joerenner8334]

Wrong. They all shared in that creative dynamic. The problem was they were assholes to each other. They were manipulated easily by the industry execs. Fogerty is a legend but listening to his sole stuff lets you know that he couldn't arrange his music anywhere near the CCR level.

[@BlindArthurBlake]

​@@joerenner8334fair enough, but what have they done except trade on the past and nostalgia

[@maestromike91971]

I. In a band and have been for 30 years. We have made it pretty well in our hometown. We went to California. We played at the Whisky a Go Go. Now we make songs for Spotify . AndA Pelé music.

[@FactsVerse]

Fun stuff, thank you so much for sharing your life story. What other types of video would you like to see?

[@kevinwatkins3856]

Love John Fogerty….great musician, but he is not blameless in the decades of vitriol between him and his ex-band mates.

[@jaybee9269]

Almost blameless. It was mainly jealousy because he was the creative force. This was not The Beatles. He’s tried to bury the hatchet but they kept on f*cking him.

[@Bambino_60]

Silence

[@davidkirkham6497]

Is that right! Maybe you should tell us why you were there when it all went down? You must have been a piece of “fly shit” on the wall @ the factory!

[@kevinwatkins3856]

@@davidkirkham6497 nah, that was your mother.

[@davidkirkham6497]

@@kevinwatkins3856That is a bit of a low blow! It is “turds” like you who are making up stories in their “small” minds about “what” they think they know about how it all went down.

[@t4texastom587]

I still have my entire CCR record collection that started of course in 1968 with their very first album. Saw them twice, 1970 and 1972 in the Sam Houston Coliseum in Houston Texas. Their legendary album from 1970, "COSMO'S FACTORY", is STILL, 54 years later.... the greatest studio-recorded album in rocknroll history. I love many CCR recordings, but if I have to name my very favorite, I will have to say it's the frantic, fast & furious rock shouter "Travelin' Band" 🎸🎸🥁🎸 R. I. P. Tom Fogerty

[@FactsVerse]

Fun stuff, thanks for sharing! We're very happy to know that you had a chance to see CCR live 🎶

[@robertschiffhauer1679]

Bad Moon Rising-Bathroom On The Right.❤Great Song I love to play on my acoustic.

[@FactsVerse]

We absolutely agree! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. Be safe and have a great evening!☺

[@d.jensen5153]

I'm a strong believer that if something isn't broken, you shouldn't try to fix it. The incredible success of CCR is ample evidence that the band was doing the right thing, whatever that was. Damn shame egos got involved and brought the CCR musical juggernaut crashing to the ground.

[@EasyG24]

Interesting that John says he's become more reflective in recent years. His latest memoir has some seriously nasty comments about both Doug and Stu, particularly Doug. He absolutely burned any possible bridge with that thing. He doesn't seem to be over it at all.

[@FactsVerse]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. What other types of video would you like to see on our channel?

[@EasyG24]

@@FactsVerse more like this with other musicians.

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

He's a massive narcissist.

[@davidkirkham6497]

@@sgt.thundercok4704 How do you know? If you know John Fogerty, personally tell us about his narcissistic tendencies?

[@chasspeed]

He has been whining about this for 50 years. Fogerty's brother was the main one who was complaining about wanting more input and he had already quit the band. John was the one that demanded that the two surviving members write their own stuff and that he would refuse to sing on it. He said if they didn't do it that he would end the band, then Fogerty spends the next 50 years complaining about it. They also told him he should hire a lawyer before signing a deal with Saul Zaentz and he laughed at them.

[@JoeSchmo-u1d]

EXACTLY.

[@alcalde1231]

I agree with your assessment, the others in ccr give john fogerty credit, they realize he was the engine but a car still needs wheels, a body and a transmission to work, and ccr was a sound only created by original 4, regardless of what fogerty says.

[@dancingtrout6719]

stu cook his dad was some what of a music industry Lawyer and stu was suppose too have his dad look over the contract....i guess he never did take it to his father .. he said he did to the others... john was 22 i think and he was the youngest in the band by months only to some others besides his brother he was older by years

[@dancingtrout6719]

john had heard that if people end the band the contract goes awayy and it did for the other members of ccr but not him ..that contract should not be legal simple as that .. write a contract too enslave some one is absurd '' a judge should have decided the contract is unjust and voided it

[@davidkirkham6497]

Not true! They all signed!

[@davidellis5141]

A cautionary tale of poor management.

[@FactsVerse]

Sad but true! What is your most memorable CCR song?

[@davidellis5141]

@@FactsVerse Born On The Bayou

[@whodidit99]

No management. The contract they signed was pretty much slavery - no way to get out of it.

[@Valkonnen]

The "management" went the same way that it has gone since the beginning. They were manipulated, lied to , and turned against each other. The culprit then runs off with their money. It's been happening for thousand of years and whenever someone spots it, they convince you that you are imagining it.

[@EasyG24]

@@Valkonnen and not a small amount of the poor management came from Fogerty himself who, despite his genuine creative genius, was not up to being the manager of everything else that was going on. He couldn't trust anyone. Not the fault of the other three band members.

[@kennethgarris]

Read thru Fogerty's entire book before he finally confessed he was an alcoholic. Wonder how much this influenced his decisions? I think the real people getting hurt here are John's biological sons. Why do we never hear from the children of his first marriage? What about his current sons/bandmates? Especially the one that looks like Stu Cook; why don't they go on record and state their feelings about this family feud? Ok, maybe Uncle Tom died before they were born, but if it was me, I could not play CCR songs for a living on stage without feeling a kinship toward Stu and Cosmo. I would want to reach out to them, get to know them and hear their side of the story.

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

Pretty sure other drugs were involved besides alcohol.

[@rirchardrubio5621]

What about when they Inducted into The Rock n Roll hall? John did not want to play with Creedence.

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

Butt-hurt until the end.

[@user-sw9jo7fe3d]

Sign shtty agreements and deals, blame other people.

[@Hespeakstruth]

Thank you

[@davidkirkham6497]

John was not the only member who signed! They all did, all 4! How many deals have a loser like you signed?

[@user-sw9jo7fe3d]

John blames the other members for selling their shares..they were their shares and wanted to cash out..John wrote the songs, why we shared anything is beyond me..he should of have had the other members as paid employees..it's his own fault, no one to blame but himself..

[@Hespeakstruth]

@@user-sw9jo7fe3d I like Fogertys music but all the complaints? Sheeez! It sounds like he had it in for everyone? His band mates his own brother being one and Zanz. Was he happy with anything? John shut up and sing!

[@davidkirkham6497]

@@user-sw9jo7fe3d I was referring to the deal they made with Fantasy for their record contract! All 4 signed the deal with Cook’s old man’s approval! However, if you want to talk about their voting shares as far where & when their songs could be uses(complications)they should have offered for John to purchase their shares as he wrote most of the songs! Scoundrels is what they are! No wonder he doesn’t want anything to do with them! That is why he didn’t play with them on the RRHOF ceremonies!

[@9davidlong]

They needed John. He didn't need them. This is what John knew, and they realized too late.

[@subg8858]

If he didn’t need them. why were all the bands that he formed to back him so vastly inferior and he never had anywhere near the level of success again

[@9davidlong]

@subg8858 I think his bands were better after the breakup. Notice the rest of the bands careers died when he said goodbye. He wrote all the great songs and would have had as much success without them in his life.

[@HERESJOHNNY-ek4wk]

The whole thing that happened with his brother was sad, like what the fock

[@fernfreeman1729]

The family is your weakest link, that's why enemies attack you through it.

[@12vibaba]

Same with Mark Knopfler and his brother. It is just not worth it.

[@chilly6470]

Corey Feldman hasn't aged well at all.

[@seltonk5136]

Yes he has, he's cool and he's going be hot for at least a few more years

[@seabertotter4325]

@@seltonk5136 what? this must be a joke.

[@seltonk5136]

@@seabertotter4325 get real. You are jelz of core-feld. I don't blame you but for heavens sake maybe try to tone it down , virgin

[@seabertotter4325]

@@seltonk5136 does he get to have his way with you?

[@seltonk5136]

@@seabertotter4325 tine permitting , he can get after this ass

[@timw3225]

Saul Zaentz and Stan Polley standing next to each other shoveling coal into the fires of hell. With CCR it was a combination of egos (ALL of them) and the ego of the main talent (John) had all of the leverage. In the end it was just a shame that the brothers never reconciled before Tom's death. The other two have told their side and, to me, John's carries a heavier weight of truth. But, as this comments section illustrates, everyone has their own opinions. CCR will always be my favorite band. Willy and the Poor Boys was the first rock album I ever bought and I wore it out. I soon bought all of the rest of the albums and loved them all, even Mardi Gras. Lookin' for a Reason, Tearin' Up the Country, Someday Never Comes, Hello Mary Lou, Door to Door and Sweet Hitch-Hiker were all pretty good tunes. Anyway, glad John got his music back eventually.

[@thomaswilke6312]

I saw an interview where he said he was happy he could sing CCR songs again. He stopped singing CCR songs because he didn’t want to pay royalties to Fantasy Records. When the Fantasy Records owner died, the new owner was more sympathetic to John. I didn’t know the backstory before. It’s great everything turned out well for him

[@FactsVerse]

Fun stuff, thanks for sharing this info about John and CCR. Which CCR song appealed to you the most?

[@QuarrellaDeVil]

There was that famous tale about when Fogerty hopped onstage at a Taj Mahal show after being ribbed by Bob Dylan (who joined him along with George Harrison) that if he didn't play a CCR song, people would remember "Proud Mary" as a song by Tina Turner. The video mentions "Zanz Kant Danz", which had to be redone as "Vanz Kant Danz" after Zaentz sued, although "Mr. Greed" remained untouched.

[@SonofStormblessed]

This is the most delusional comment section I’ve ever seen. Every single one of them completely ignored how Fogerty acted back then, which is weird because Fogerty admits himself the problems HE created. Maybe if the dude wasn’t a complete controlling psychopath this wouldn’t have happened. It always takes 2 sides, but apparently the commenters who came to this video have no clue what reality is actually like. So disappointed in humanity.

[@davidkirkham6497]

And you’re so full of “shit” it’s running out the corners of your “big,” mouth!

[@metalinyourhead3604]

Finally! Someone else who knows! I agree with you, from what I’ve read Fogerty was a controlling dick who wouldn’t let his bandmates write anything. Why would they want to stay with Fogerty and the band if they couldn’t try to write songs themselves? Even if they maybe weren’t as good. It’s no wonder they took the money and ran. Nice to know someone isnt jumping on the Fogerty bandwagon.

[@davidkirkham6497]

@ Do you believe everything you read? Yea, he was a big “dickhead!” Wrote all those great songs! Shared royalties with his bandmates when he didn’t have to! Arranged a produced all the great albums! Picked out all the other songs! Overdubbed all the arrangements if they were not good, enough! I could go on & on! However, what is the point when “pecker heads” like you & the other “idiots” likesonofsormblessed make statements that they have no clue what you both are yakking about!

[@davidkirkham6497]

What I am disappointed in is your clueless post about what you heard about how it all went down!

[@dreamtimej]

​@metalinyourhead3604 what did they write after the band broke up?

[@catfishcooler1566]

THE REAL STORY: John signed a bad record deal and then blew up his own band to get out of it. Then acts surprised and hurt when his unemployed bandmates (which included his own brother) sold thier interests in CCR to make money. A great band destroyed by one (1) man's ego.

[@davidkirkham6497]

John made made the band successful. He didn’t want it to end! OBTW, they all signed the “record” deal! OBTW, from the get go they denied selling voting rights, then they finally admitted it! OBTW, if they had any integrity, they would have offered their shares for John to, purchase! Your “real story” Is, bogus!

[@dalesnyder4831]

The real story, according to you. Maybe, but I believe the guy that wrote the songs.

[@rjturini]

John is the only outstanding talent in CCR

[@walterjack7136]

Great comment on Fogerty selling out his band mates . Don't sign record deals when your in over your head. Great singer, great song writer, BAD at business management . And did'nt the bass player have a business degree ?

[@davidkirkham6497]

@@walterjack7136 You don’t know what you’re talking, about!

[@Jjf-ep3mf]

50 year fight to own his own music… cosmos’s factory still great album… still touring with his family great show.. John is amazing

[@7colliemac]

Played it to death..

[@JoeSchmo-u1d]

Opinions vary...

[@juke699]

John Fogerty sued Clarke and The Hollies, and they settled out of court for Long Cool Woman in a black dress. So for a guy who cries about being sued for Old Man down the Road he sure had no Qualms about suing other musicians...

[@theCinemaHaus]

The funny part is you think you made a point. But you're clueless.

[@juke699]

@@theCinemaHaus I did, it just went right over your head...

[@davidkirkham6497]

Joke699 What your small brain is missing is John Fogerty got sued for…….sounding like, John Fogerty. Much different then John suing someone who try’s to sound like, John Fogerty!

[@juke699]

@@davidkirkham6497 He whined and cried, like you, to everyone that would listen how Saul Zaentz screwed him, which he did. So why did Fogerty sign the deal in the first place.

[@davidkirkham6497]

@@juke699 All 4 signed it! Because Stu Cook’s old man(who was a lawyer)said it was ok to, sign! Some lawyer he must have been! I have read that Stu Cook’s excuse for his old man’s lame decision was “ there was nobody else in line wanting to offer a contract!” Go figure! Obtw, I am not whining & crying about anything other then people like you with low IQ’s that make statements that are false, incorrect erroneous etc!

[@WineSippingCowboy]

I passed by John Fogery a few times when I was a young boy 👦. I did not know that was him until years later! 🤯

[@M_Pross]

I get a little sick of John's bitterness towards his band mates. It was decades ago. Zaentz is dead. His brother Tom is dead. Doug Clifford and Stu Cook are more or less forgotten. Meanwhile he's a successful musician and millionaire who lives in a 21 million dollar mansion in LA. Just give it a rest for fuck's sake. He acts like he's the only musician that ever signed a bad contract or feuded with his band.

[@Eaglesmere]

@@M_Pross He's a very tiresome rich liberal 🤣.

[@JFS3]

Yeah, he got screwed (everybody did back then), but at least he ended up better than Pete Ham or Tom Evans of Badfinger.

[@M_Pross]

@@JFS3 Or any number of black blues and r and b musicians who never made a dime or had their music stolen outright.

[@gmshowtruck]

I have no favorite CCR song, all songs are good no doubt about that ! 👍

[@jcsolomon6470]

I'm Allways Rollin on the River,with John Fogerty!What John,went through,was,very Unfortunate,For This Shining,Son!He's The Key!The other guys,were,just the Band without the Lyrics,and so forth!and Greed!John,Shaped the Vision!😊

[@fromchomleystreet]

I wonder if John Fogerty, Harrison Ford, and Steve Martin ever got to meet the birth parents who gave them up for adoption, thus splitting the triplets up.

[@chrisrogers5224]

Man this music reaches through the soul, all ages can partake.

[@diannehogan7605]

It makes the Gallagher's fights look like a minor disagreement.

[@murcer88]

Born on the Bayou---

[@dancingtrout6719]

i thought you said Burn on the Bayou .. now that would be a good title for a CCR Book .....Burn on The Bayou

[@olavirannisto3552]

Fav CCR song: Run Through The Jungle Fav CCR album: Willy and the Poor Boys

[@anneholden9908]

My favorite CCR song is Bad Moon Rising!❤

[@FactsVerse]

One of our favorites too, you've got fine taste! Which song comes in at second place?

[@2011littlejohn1]

I think it was highly influenced by You're Right I'm Left She's Gone by Elvis.

[@Kgio-2112]

Keep on chooglin and someday never comes are great. The radio hits are played out. They are so much more than proud Mary .

[@tylerloving7132]

John doesn’t tell you he took like 90 percent of the money

[@oyajiblues]

key issues were ignored by this.

[@prettyshinyspaghetti8332]

Agreed. There's so much more nuance to the issues that drove the band apart, particularly Tom and John, than how it was so plainly presented here.

[@fieldcrow]

Fogerty is one of the greatest songwriters & Rock n Roll artists. He also was/is a ruthless individual towards his brothers and band mates. read Bad Moon Rising. many greats are ruthless about their art, but Fogerty was a Statue of Liberty-sized jerk about it. he literally told the RRHoF committee that he would not attend the award ceremony if any of the other members of CCR were there, his brother Tom not being a problem because he was dead (not having received a kind word from John in decades). it was the most depressing book about RnR I’ve ever read, including for the one about Badfinger. I guess Fogerty just put every last tally whacker drip of soul, passion, compassion, love, etc. into his great (until after Creedence broke up) songs. he sings so powerfully that he could’ve been in AC/DC (where Malcolm would have killed him) but he talks like Mickey Mouse. and he let his wife talk him into doing the nerd gtr tapping.

[@bjr4567]

You really need to read Fogerty's own book to get the other side of the story. Trust me when I say, there was enough fault to be spread all around in the tempestuous CCR saga. JC had no corner on that market, as his band mates were not without their own sins.

[@fieldcrow]

@@bjr4567 hello. You are absolutely right. I do need to read his autobio and I have it queued up now. It will be further interesting to see the real down in the weeds story about the publishing struggles from his perspective. Thanks, ha ha for not yelling at me for being an old grump.

[@bjr4567]

@@fieldcrow Not at all. Your comments were fair enough as John did make his share of mistakes. But what Zaentz did to him was unforgivable considering JC so enriched Fantasy's coffers. Then to see his band mates side with Zaentz, and not based on principle either. They forgot John held the cards to the future.

[@fieldcrow]

@@bjr4567 in a disinterested way, which it is hard to be ha ha, wasn’t with Zandt failed to do not so much a contractual thing as he/they did sign a publishing deal, but even with a bad one the writer share is still at least 50% of the AirPlay share blah blah blah I’ve been in my whole and still don’t understand it, what I seem to remember from bad Moon rising book is that did have sort of egg autocratic control because of something they signed to put their money where he wanted to, and he put it with his and some sort of offshore thing and then that went tits up he didn’t warn John or the band what was about to happen yet? He got his dough (Zantz’s)) out. Now that I think about it, I take it all back. I’m sorry I was mad at Fogerty.

[@fieldcrow]

Really sorry about the typos

[@ub1953]

John should collaborate with MARK FARNER of GRAND FUNK RAILROAD on a book about bandmate betrayals

[@QuarrellaDeVil]

I've long wondered if he has ever sat down with Dennis DeYoung of Styx to compare notes. Oh, the dynamic is a little different, but there was still tension between the other members of the band and the guy who wrote most of the big hits (I'm not forgetting about "Renegade" and "Blue Collar Man".). I'm not a big fan of "Kilroy was Here", either, I get it, especially the film and the stage theatrics, but I'd like to think that they all got big paychecks to go with the fame that came with the videos being in heavy rotation on MTV back in the day. Regarding Grand Funk, I've always said that I leave it to the viewer as to whether or not Terry Knight experienced karma when he was stabbed to death in Temple, TX.

[@glennday7802]

Just an angry, bitter old man.

[@conorlauren]

John initially trusted Saul Zantz. And he got the others to agree on the worst contract in the history of Rock and Roll. I really have serious problems with him because of it. He spent his whole life pissed off and blaming everybody else instead of looking in the mirror and saying, “maybe I should have sought advice from others and slowed down. And maybe I should have kept some friends.” He said the other three sold him out. He sold himself out.

[@davidkirkham6497]

They all signed the contract, collectively! That is the way things were done in the band! Had to be all 4 or nothing! You should learn the facts.

[@conorlauren]

@@davidkirkham6497 Oh, absolutely. And the other 3 understood that. I’m one of those who actually has the experience of reviewing one of those types of contracts and NOT signing it because, well, I did some math in my head and understood we would have to sell over 100k units just to break even for the recording, much less the marketing and such. And the take from tours and merchandising meant a choice between poverty and lower middle class. Yeah. Professor Flo and the example of Fogerty weighed heavily on me.

[@seltonk5136]

Trusting someone named "Saul Zantz" 😂. Smooth move Johnny 😂

[@davidkirkham6497]

@@seltonk5136 Zaentz was like a “father” figure to all of them! There were promises made & all 4 of them got caught up in his lies! So much so when Tom Fogerty left the band & couldn’t get anyone to sign him Zaentz promised Tom would be a star! This was mostly to get back at, John! Zaentz had Tom Fogerty on a “puppet” string. Plus the other 2(Cook & Clifford)were being manipulated by him. John Fogerty was the only 1 of the four who stayed true to his convictions! I am referring to post, break-up.

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@@davidkirkham6497 i know who zantz was and I know his, ahem, tribe

[@joedobbins870]

Saw John in person, great artist!

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[@bobbybabsonjr787]

Do do do threw you out my back door😆 . But the opening riff ," Up around the bend" had me hooked for life.

[@MacawAviculture]

Young and very skilled musicians soon learn the true cost of being famous and known by the public through their music.

[@rickashford4005]

That massive failure called "Mardi Gras" was the straw that broke the band up, and was a crystal clear illustration that Stu Cook, and Doug Clifford were NOT the brilliant singers and songwriters they thought they were.

[@ALifeThatRocks]

The Creedence song Someday Will Never Come was written by Fogerty and is autobiographical. A self damning confession of abandonment of his wife and son to the allure of fame. Stark. Cold. It’s an important clue in understanding the character of these adversaries.

[@BubbahotepEagle]

John where do you get your hair plugs and dye from?

[@lillybloom1590]

I have heard over the years that JF was "a great songwriter for his time." Nonsense! An argument can easily be made that he was the best ever, because he never wrote a bad song. "For his time." His songs are timeless, and he's more than just a writer. His vibrato and melodies are off-the-charts astonishing! I suppose he and Van Morrison stand side-by-side as the two stalwarts that no one has yet to challenge as "the greatest ever."

[@DJFV694]

Traveling Band My brother bought the single when it was released. I played it so much, the grooves wore out.

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[@SouthernSierra56]

i bought the Sweet Hitchhiker 45.

[@michaelbajorek1972]

I play music. Have been in several bands over the years. Musicians are a different breed. Creative differences. Difference in personal prefered music. Just two of the obstacles in band life. Most bands are not long term. Enjoy them while you can.

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[@sunking2001]

My favorite CCR tune...Keep on Chooglin'...pure ass shakin' rock and roll!

[@obbor4]

My favorite CCR song is the long jam Keep on Chooglin'.

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Great song!

[@danspringer12]

You said "Saul" attempted to apologize, but the clip shows that it was Stu who was attempting to apologize, not Saul.

[@erickriebel4366]

I remember when John bailed out on CCR he was giving an interview and he said I can do it it's all me I can do the song I can do the radio I can do the number one and the band cannot do that and I am leaving them I remember that and he basically walked out and they had to go on the road and try to rebuild I don't know about all the other stuff but when bands blow apart add business partners to it's normally a mess you never get over that

[@NorsePJ]

They didn't really create a new sound or style as much as they adopted and focused their sound on an already made style of rockabilly. For example, Dale Hawkins' own version of "Susie Q" clearly shows what would become a CCR trademark sound.

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[@danrockafeller5547]

John's always been an egotistcal money hungry prima Donna. Nice to see people still buying into his BS.

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[@MrPhilfridge]

@@FactsVerse Is that your standard response to any critic of John.? He;s his own worst enemy

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

He intentionally set up 'Mardi Gras' to fail. Separate the music from the man. Not a good person.

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[@AbeStephan]

Its sad and it makes me angry because even now most artists still get ripped off by record companies . There should have been laws passed to protect the artists after what happened to Credence Clearwater Revival . Van Halen never made any money for themselves for the first 4 or 5 albums .

[@DiBiasehere]

Graveyard Train. Nobody but John Fogerty would write a # like that

[@rchydrozz751]

The band mates never realized, They can all be replaced. Without him, there is no band. The band is John's band. Like Paul McCartney and Wings. John Fogerty and CCR.

[@seabertotter4325]

They were young guys. They thought John was useless without them. In a way, they were right. The 60s. Big ideals from immature people.

[@michaelstaat6615]

I'm a drummer, many years ago Another drummer gave me great advice.He said there's only one star in a band and that's the singer. Think of all the great bands. would any of them be where they are without the singer , with rare exception , probably not.

[@bigglesharrumpher4139]

So - why was it 3 against 1? What did John do?

[@RoscoMontana21]

So glad John is healthy and still rockin’.

[@JokersNtheOddball]

Vanz Kant Danz is the greatest hidden gem of all time and one of my favorite songs since i was 4

[@harpman1876]

CCR was my first concert. 1972. Tony Joe White and Freddie King opened. Great show. Tickets back then were three to four dollars. We saw everyone back in those years. Dirt cheap until the '80s.

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[@solskengroupllp2758]

John sighed a terrible record deal back in the day. He owns that. The other guys just needed cash. It is what it is.

[@davidkirkham6497]

They all signed the deal! Shouldn’t make statements when your, clueless!

[@tpbrcombo]

⁠@@davidkirkham6497you be nice. This is why nobody came to your birthday party.

[@alcalde1231]

I exactly agree, fogerty is a big whiner, although a great musical mind. But ccr left us a treasure chest of music which I have enjoyed since the 70s.

[@davidkirkham6497]

@@alcalde1231 John sets the record straight! He has more integrity in his “little finger” than most people have in their whole body!

[@solskengroupllp2758]

@@davidkirkham6497 John controlled the band. ESAD

[@MikeHanson-e6m]

Life is too short to not be in contact with stu and Doug. They were all young when this all went down.john has his music back and more money to live comfortably. Give the guys a call and say hey-what a journey we had.........

[@kennethgarris]

Amen, Brother!

[@1960fusion]

The biggest losers of Johns hiatus from music was us, the fans! He was a prolific sung and wrote some great songs just before he stopped...such a shame!

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[@davidkirkham6497]

Very, true! Bravo!👍

[@andypagakis]

John fogerty was the band, these dudes would be completely unknown otherwise

[@makeitcount179]

John is CCR. He's the wryer, the singer and the guitarist. He deserves the lions share of the profits. His professionalism has NEVER wavered.😊😊

[@rainbowboa100]

my favorite is "lookin' out my back door"!

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[@rgs4x]

Read his book. It gives are the details. It is a good read.

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[@davidkirkham6497]

I thought it was a good, read, also!

[@sav7568]

All you need to know is this - Creedence Clearwater Revival had 5 top 10 albums and 9 top 10 singles. John Fogerty, despite all his self proclaimed magnificence, had 2 top 10 albums and 1 top 10 single. Nuff said.

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[@RogerRamos1993]

Take a break, bot.

[@elainebell26]

So many favorites of mine from CCR... Green River & The Night Time is The Right Time are two of those favorites. They've been one of my favorite bands since I was very young. They were my first concert. My Dad took me to the Oakland Coliseum in Oakland, California. I WAS 10 YEARS OLD. So glad John Fogerty is still making music and Saul Zaentz is burning in Hell.

[@tommyhaynes9157]

Neil Young got sued for not sounding like himself and Fogerty got sued for sounding like himself..You can't win

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[@Mark_Mullotank]

He might have been the creative one but they looked good together - that's worth something.

[@iammine7325]

It's hard to pick one favorite song he has so many,I love the sound of the guitar in all of them, The way he sings is awesome to.

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[@shawncosmos5431]

I want comment about the issues in CCR as I was kid when all that went on..I’ll say this. I have drummed in several small club bands. Never a touring act. But I always took it seriously. In each band I practiced hard and rehearsed a lot. Out of five bands I finally got into one where we had no Prima Donna. I had a awesome guest house on my property. My music room. I graciously allowed ‘our’ band to rehearse there. I owned 95% of the PA and a practice pa…I owned the trailer and truck that hauled it. Never did I pull rank and remind anyone of that. Unless they said ‘my band’ Or took an attitude marginalizing the rest of us. My fav was this idiotic bass player who had the balls to say be was canceling rehearsal and had some guys coming over to my house to jam.. Gets better. And just whose gear do they plan on using. My drums. The guitar and keyboard players rig . Not to mention I had a 10 channel board. Crown heads, monitors Michs. Full la A perfect setup. Ignorant f@#$. I lol. Let me get this straight. Your canceling our practice and you think your bringing people i don’t even know into my home who you are volunteering our gear for them to use. ‘Im the front man. Its my band’. Oh snap I pulled rank. Told him you got one hour to get to your gear off my property or it will by out the road. I was rolling it up the driveway when he as he pulled in. Smh

[@dancahill9585]

He tried to share the song writing responsibilities in Mardi Gras, and it showed that Fogerty really didn't need the rest of the band and he could surround himself with studio musicians and be better off. Tom, Stu and Doug, brought very little to the band.

[@oldermusiclover]

John I'm so so sorry about all you went through and that it cost you your brother in a way

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[@oldermusiclover]

@@FactsVerse wish there were more programs about studio musicians a lot of them are not known and cant find out anything about them one is a bass player named Freddie Young the Brille Building musicians and the APPLLE jACKS WHO PLAYED FOR CAMEO RECORDS

[@FreedomIsAChoice777]

Saw him in 2018. Was one of the best concerts I’ve seen. So much freakin fun

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[@Ohionortheast]

It’s sad money disagreements cost us some great albums if they would have stayed together

[@Ticonderous1]

Stu and Doug were not worthy of wiping Johns boots ... They should have considered how lucky they were to have him ...

[@MarkK01]

As much as i like some of CCR's music and John's solo music I find John Fogerty extremely arrogant and selfish. John wanted everyone in CCR to let him be the one man show with 4 people. He wanted all the money to himself. I will never pay or go to a John Fogerty concert.

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[@RustyShackleford-j2p]

After his BS lawsuit against The Hollies, he got what he deserved. He is one of the biggest hypocrites in music.

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[@jamessherosick2747]

Maybe he can partner up with Don Henley, they could make beautiful music together.

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[@ibberman]

Then they can both whine.

[@waynedeadder664]

However, I often wonder why the others turned against John en masse Funny how it was three against one

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[@davemanone3661]

A wise man once said, "cayn't we all just get along", Rodney King.

[@davequ]

I don't know how it is today, but back in the late '60s and early-to-late '70s: (e.g.) The Doors SHARED their writing AND publishing equally "Music by the Doors" (except for "Soft Parade") . Credence: My guess is that the leftovers after Zaentz got done pillaging Credence's publishing were NOT shared equally, but instead the majority of any remaining writing/publishing dollars went to John, who wrote the hits. I'd be willing to bet on that. Bands back then used to go through this all the time. In those days (not today) bands didn't make much money on the road (some bands LOST money), yet everyone in the band shares equally in the misery of traveling & touring. Back then the money was in songwriting and publishing. Granted, Zaentz was the bad guy iMHO, but I'll bet John Fogerty kept the songwriting credits and remaining publishing revenues mostly for himself. I've been in a few bands, and I can tell you that not sharing songwriting and publishing revenues is a proven recipe for inter-band squabbling and even eventual hatred & break-up. In our band 3 of us wrote, but we didn't "share" - so if we had lucked out (we didn't) and had a couple hits, our drummer (who didn't write) would have received essentially nothing - even though he worked just as hard (especially on the road) as the rest of us. That would really suck, and MAYBE that's what went on with the other 3 guys in Credence. It would be interesting to see which bands who are successful share, and which ones do not. Sting wrote most of the hits for the Police. Did he share with Copeland & Summers? You tell me. and PS ... if John Fogerty DID share WRITING and publishing dollars (the ones left after Zaentz took his share) with the rest of Credence then please accept my apology.

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[@TheNeonRabbit]

If you have John Fogerty and any 3 competent rock musicians you have CCR

[@iammine7325]

He has so many great songs!

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[@dalenapier2956]

It's a shame he withheld CCR on the Woodstock film. CCR was the top act in the world at that time, and the highest paid of any performer(s) at Woodstock.

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[@pennyking3823]

Get over it and quit whining

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[@clevebaker8399]

This is like ringo and mal evans taking over the beatles! Fogerty is CCR! John didn’t even need these guys! Glad he’s back!!