Fake £199 Taylormade P770 Irons vs Taylormade P770 Irons...

[@danielwarren2355]

The tightness of that deviation across the board with the fakes 😵

[@tommiethatcher7265]

Great seeing Sam back on the channel and the fake one performed pretty well to be fair with a better quality shaft in, top video again mate

[@garymartingolf]

Cheers Tommie, I’ve got the proV marinating 😮‍💨

[@matthewthompson6329]

The slight different shape maybe the fact the fake is a copy of the older model 2021 I believe. The latest fakes are out now haha! Love these videos BTW. Keep up the good work

[@michaelstanley3961]

Just bought a set with steel shafts, I'm a 8 handicapper and I think there great, playing below 8 with them, but am going to re shaft and grip footprints the long haul.... I know it's not the right thing to do but at that price point 🤷 Paid €170 plus 40 import duty, and arrived in 9 days from AliExpress

[@robchisholm2697]

Exactly name brand clubs have been overpriced for far to long and the more golfers that support the copy cat clubs the better I will 100% buy the copy version hands down.😊

[@grahamwilcox4027]

The biggest issue has to be fakes circulating in the 2nd hand market being sold on as genuine irons.

[@garymartingolf]

100%, and I know people don’t like fake clubs being brought to attention, but if people aren’t aware of how good they look, how will they be aware that they’re on the second hand market. We can’t stop people buying fake, but we can make people aware that they look real but don’t feel the same.

[@robchisholm2697]

They are genuine irons made by a different manufacturer they share the same model number p770. It would like saying FordV8 sedan is a fake because Holden V8 sedan came out first. Both perform very similar.

[@grahamwilcox4027]

@@robchisholm2697 I doubt Taylormade would agree, I have no real issues with copies just that they could be sold on as Taylormade which they aren’t.

[@Tomdabomb86]

Great work again Gary, bit scary how real the fake irons look. If u buy fake irons u get what u get but do worry some people might try sell them on as genuine irons and scam people

[@garymartingolf]

We see so many on Facebook, it’s unreal. We hope nobody intentionally ever buys some, but all we can do is raise awareness of them, as even we get surprised by how genuine they can look.

[@Tomdabomb86]

Ya I personally think ur bringing great attention to the fact that fake clubs are out there and look real so be carefull

[@ChazzDCFC]

I had an idea of buying a very old set of irons (old dunlop sets can be found at carboots less than £10) and swapping the heads with these, cheaper way to repurpose old clubs

[@paulhuk2748]

Great show again, personally for the money I would recommend to anyone looking to move on from there mixed bag of old clubs, brand new McGregor irons at £250 then in a couple of years move up again to whatever great comes from caley, takomo, if they improve in what they are offering now we are all in for a treat , keep them coming mate.

[@garymartingolf]

I’d agree, as good as the fakes performed, they always let themselves down in some area, and that comes more to light in our outdoor challenge. Theres plenty of good options for under £250 these days.

[@mitchwaldo5613]

we need a simple band saw test. the obvious question should be to view the hollow body design....thats the tech you are paying for.

[@garymartingolf]

When I start to make a bit of money, I’ll definitely start getting more in depth, but I’ve got to try to do things on a budget atm ☹️

[@Ct99915]

The fitting guy has a great swing, doesn't look like he rotates much on the way back but certainly does on impact. Could learn from him!

[@michaelr9397]

Wow really surprised at those results, can only think the fakes won't last as long 🤔 Some people will probably buy these after watching this and put their own shafts in. Will be interesting seeing you playing with them outside.

[@haddenmiller4364]

If they only last for a season or two, then you didn't hurt yourself, cause you can just go get something else. If you want to be a baller on a budget, you don't buy the nice car you want, you just lease it. These clubs are that.

[@unclejim2330]

Was hoping you’d do this, very interesting! 👍👍👍

[@davidosborne3440]

That was well interesting. Just out of interest can you add length to a shaft or so you just need to get new shafts?

[@garymartingolf]

You can, if you’re in a budget. It will lighten the club head swing weight, so the club might feel abit different to before.

[@karlhegeler7507]

Another class video, top drawer stuff lads👏👏

[@BaileyMxX]

How did the fake react to shot shaping? Was it just as responsive when trying to shape shots?

[@finnguzz6448]

Fun vid Gary. We've established now that you need some reallllly cheap clubs to play your best consistent golf.🙄

[@stevendickinson2897]

Great video Gary

[@royclose946]

Well done gaz 😊

[@alanking5001]

So worth getting the fakes and re shafting 😂

[@joecrush1118]

Would be to good to see the internals of the club head to see if there is any tech in there, sacrifice!!😮

[@kevinlove4930]

I got the new 770s from Aliexpress with DG shafts they work just fine to me.. The seller said the internal tech was the same

[@joecrush1118]

Do you remember the seller?

[@kevinlove4930]

@joecrush1118 no I think they are all the same. More or less

[@jimwampler6210]

Although the big brands are grossly overpriced, fakes are just wrong. They are stealing, its criminal and should be shut down. They also dupe the unsuspecting buyer with an inferior product. They should put their own name and brand on the clubs and sell them as an alternative. It would be up to you fellows to then compare and make recommendations. It's like owning a fake Rolex watch, it looks great, it keeps time but you know in your gut that it is a fake. Great vid and I always appreciate your content.

[@Divegrohl90]

I've had mizuno Mp20's from ali until recently now real ping i230. The metal wasnt as soft as real mizunos ( ive got 225 3 and 4 iron). But theyve hit well, just the mp20 in itself was too unforgiving for me. Ping i230 are in a whole different class in regards to consistency but if you are starting out I feel its better to get aliexpress new than old and worn 8 year old genuine second hand. You will not get a forged iron but it can get you to a 15 hcp no problem, and I didnt swap shafts. Just S flex on ali

[@Divegrohl90]

Also the biggesr giveaway was the grooves. They aliexpress had more and "unfinished" grooves, if you want to spot a fake. And the dents were much chippier(because of cast) than just a dent which happens with the real deal.

[@robintompkins8745]

I don't think I could go through all the hassle of buying the fakes, playing them and find the shafts are crap then having all the shafts replaced. I think if I was short an cash I would go either second hand or if I had to have new clubs I would look at some of the direct to consumer sets, to me they are better options.

[@garymartingolf]

This is exactly our conclusion. With fakes, it’s a lottery, and your money would be better put into purchasing a good used set.

[@haddenmiller4364]

Problem is, the secondhand market is stupid expensive now, too.

[@nickmillar9651]

Good video

[@garymartingolf]

Thanks 👌🏼

[@stevechurm6575]

What we can say if the fakers are watching your video they now know what to fix to make them even harder for us mere mortals to get stiff for fake clubs great content and really informative for all.

[@gregorybolin4672]

Are even the s300 dynamic gold shafts fake?

[@gregorybolin4672]

I dont think there would be much difference a thin forges face isnt the same as a full body forged might as well be cast.

[@DR-uc4bj]

Agreed. Forging the face only does not have the feel of fully forged club

[@DanielleBarks-tg4fd]

I like your outfit

[@garymartingolf]

Thanks

[@Pud56]

New 770’s are out, so old version will be going cheap now.

[@garymartingolf]

Very good point 👌🏼

[@mastermanningtkd]

There is certainly a big difference in price.

[@chrisbaker1967]

I don't think you should have matched the swing weights personally. Adding tip weight and lead tape isn't the proper comparison. It would be better, in my opinion, to just see the head as it came but with the same shaft and grip

[@garymartingolf]

There’s so many ways to do it, but from the series of videos we’ve done, we’ve found that the majority of unhappiness comes from comparisons where the specs aren’t as closely matched as possible.

[@mart0o7]

Anyone in the Notts area wanna swap a G430 Alta cb 55 stiff for something firmer like a Tensei? Hit maybe 10 times and don't like it. Cheers Gary 😉

[@dpavs8158]

So... is the moral of the story is, if you don't mind having fakes, buy the heads only and have them shafted locally?

[@garymartingolf]

The moral of the story is up to you 😅 I do the tests, I give my honest feedback and results, and that’s all I can do. You can be the judge 😃

[@dpavs8158]

@@garymartingolf So true Gary🙏 And I do always appreciate your being straight forward and as unbiased as possible in your reviews!

[@Pud56]

Temu are selling fake P790 at £299 5-PW. I’ve seen these reviewed and worryingly they performed almost identically to the real thing. The thought was they were from the classic Chinese Ghost shift, where they continue running the machines, just using cheaper materials.

[@garymartingolf]

They heads certainly perform better than we expected, however, with the original shafts, they’re unplayable in my opinion.

[@highupproductions9505]

i ordered the same ones from that review, they will be here monday. im excited to compare them to my real p790's. i only bought them on the off chance i need to replace one of my clubs if something happens

[@olismith6271]

@@garymartingolfif you can find ‘the right’ seller, they give options on shafts direct from their factories, and even some have grip options

[@Nickporter17]

How have them been performing? ​@@highupproductions9505

[@ericjencson9489]

This is like watching paint dry.

[@davestead9610]

It would be good to see the difference between them with a mid handicapper hitting them. That way, we would get a better idea of the forgiveness.

[@kevinlove4930]

They aren't fakes they are counterfeit clubs. Once you use a trademark without authorization you break copyright laws so there's nothing fake about them, the are probably made in the same way just without quality controls. Players are getting the extra money big brands charge us use the clubs pros do

[@garymartingolf]

They’re fake. The materials are nothing like the real product. I’m Rick Shiels

[@kevinlove4930]

@@garymartingolf wow Rick shields replied to me, Ive ben following for a long time. And yes the materials are definitely different, sound and feel let's you know, but I did buy a set of Adam Scott Muiras like you have just without that $500 packaging, and coa. They say j20 soft steel and felt better then my mizunos MP 57 with the original grain forged. The. Cost me $500, They didn't have enough forgiveness so I'm gonna try the mc502 or mc201 next.

[@kevinlove4930]

@@garymartingolf differents is fake money is like monopoly money where counterfeit is like real money or product made in a way to look and represent the original source, and use actual company branding. Mine were counterfeit, gigagolf would be fake or knock offs. That's how I look at it

[@DaveCuffe-c9c]

Most golf clubs are made in China.. look at the driver shafts it usually says made in China assembled in the USA. Chinese have been copying clubs and other things for years and year's.

[@paulmcgee1867]

I don't understand this fascination for fake

[@garymartingolf]

99% of our content is driven by the audience, so it’s not personally our fascination, but there is such a big fascination. If you come back and read the comments in a few weeks time, it will make your stomach turn.

[@rayyou7032]

I'd imagine it's the huge difference in price compared to what the difference is in performance.In the end for most average golfers the clubs are not gonna vary that much.

[@johndejesus4357]

Proof that a great club fitter is more valuable than new clubs.

[@robchisholm2697]

They are not fakes they are 100% a golf club that performs very closely to the Taylormade product. These clubs are a copy. Not a fake. Embarrassingly Taylormade is charging a hell of a lot for an extremely small gain in performance. If i was buy a new set give me the copy version everyday of the week.

[@morkusmorkus6040]

Does it say Taylormade? Yes? Then it IS a fake.

[@robchisholm2697]

@morkusmorkus6040 the taylormade club is 100% a real golf club. The "copy" is also 100% a real golf club. One is manufactured by taylormade and the other one is a copy. Both are 100% real golf clubs. Neither is a fake golf club.

[@DonAl9114]

Why are fake clubs so important to talk about..? Such equipment should be totally ignored. 😊😊

[@garymartingolf]

I get paid of views, and the fake equipment videos get me good views, whilst I get the chance to share my honest opinion.

[@haddenmiller4364]

And most folks want good golf equipment, but can't afford it. If the fakes are improving, it isn't necessarily a bad thing. You certainly don't want them circulating in the open market. There are people out there would try to make money off of these, which despicable. However, if you're a guy who hit the 770 in a store and really liked them, but can't afford $1400 tag, then I say go for it, especially if they perform similarly