Fake Motorcycle Helmets crash tested! Will they pass the real ECE/DOT tests? | FortaMoto.com

[@vbsurferr]

Whoever is selling those fake helmets needs to go to jail. Selling fake helmets and claiming they have passed safety tests is just so wrong

[@KittenMcSnugglet]

It was the one person who gave the vid a thumbs down.

[@Cuzzazbuzz]

I wonder where that cheap shite was made....?

[@tommybeck1811]

I don´t mind someone selling them. Of course, it would be better, if they did not. But if ´someone is dumb enough to think that these are safe and genuine, give them a helmet and a Darwin award.

[@vbsurferr]

@@KittenMcSnugglet 😂

[@1osmit]

Agree, also how can someone be so stupid to buy a helmet for 50$, no matter the brand. Seems to me like they don't have much to protect.

[@patjohnson2259]

Another great helmet review Ritchie, just shows how important it is to buy your helmets from a reputable dealer, well done.

[@FortaMoto]

Cheers Pat, thanks for your kind words! It is very important indeed.

[@supervideos5794]

@@FortaMoto your email??

[@LNReacts]

I recently watched a video about a guy reviewing the "DGL"(agv knock-off) Pista helmet, and the comments were filled with people saying the helmet looked cool and asking where can they buy it, god people are stupid when it comes to helmets

[@aidankilleen5889]

Very cool that you were able to properly test the fakes. I love my Arai XD-4 and wouldn't want a fake anywhere near me.

[@FortaMoto]

We were very grateful that Arai Europe wanted to help us out with this! Steer clear of counterfeit helmets, they're not going to save your life. Ride safe!

[@igorhcc]

If someone bought a helmet for protecting the head, it's ok, because there's nothing to protect there.

[@Rider-182]

COME ON EVERYBODY "SAY NO TO FAKE HELMET"

[@2CanTwo]

9:00 yeah that's the sound of a heart that has flatlined

[@cajunkonection]

Thank you for this video. I am a new rider, and really liked the good looking graphics from a manufacturer that unfortunately I couldn't find details about anywhere on any major motorcycling type websites such as cycle gear, revzilla, etc. While looking I found this video, and you have definitely convinced me to just go ahead and order from a reputable source. It is just unfortunate that they don't offer a wider variety of good looking graphical designs, but me living is probably better than me looking good dead lol

[@DrTranofEvil]

I always buy Simpson helmets these days. There are better helmets, I’ll be the first to admit that. The features tend to be limited, and they don’t offer many of the features of more specifically motorcycle-focused helmet manufacturers. That said, I find them comfortable, stylish, minimalistic and they have a Snell rating (which I don’t trust DOT, so I usually shoot for stuff with an ECE or Snell rating). That said, my only complaint about my old Arai is I wish the viewport was just a little wider (top to bottom). I usually ride in heavy traffic and being able to see, even just a little bit more, saved my butt on a few occasions. I wore my Arai for over three years and like 45k miles (I’m hard on my helmets as I’m a commuter who tends to do everything on my bike) and it was a great helmet! I would buy another one, but I do wish they’d open them up just a little for their full-face helmets. Anyway, I always enjoy watching these videos as they’re a great well of information on what to look for.

[@TheMutsch11]

The ECE 22.05 requires no "Shell Penetration Test" like DOT or SNELL - which of course you know. BUT: as Arai is proud of it's very hard outer shell and it's minimal flex (which you demonstrated by standing in the helmets) I guess that's why this test was included ;O) Nevertheless, quite entertaining video although I wouldn't have bought my helmets from sources like this anyway.

[@FortaMoto]

Spot on! The penetration test was included because it's part of the DOT and SNELL tests, and because we believe that it should become part of the ECE test. Thanks for your compliment, and good on you that you wouldn't get a helmet from there! Neither would we, except for scientific purposes.

[@krollpeter]

The ECE tests simulate hitting the road or a car, a blunt object. Hitting a sharp object can happen, but it's not the common incident. Optimizing a helmet to withstand such a penetration test means it has to be optimized for hardness, which then results in compromises in the dampening area (g-value and duration of the impact). That means helmets which can withstand a high penetration force can not be as good as possible in the dampening department. Most important are the highest dampening values which means lowest g value and shortest duration of the impact peak. This is why European helmets optimized for impact with blunt objects all undercut the Arai results, and that often by a lot. Our motorcycle helmet do not need to be like a construction worker helmet. I hope the European commission will not change the system, because the brain is more sensitive to harsh accelerations or decelerations of long durations, than anything. The penetration testing is old school, overcome.

[@STho205]

@@krollpeter hitting a sharp object is a real world likelyhood. Maybe not in downtown Brussels, but in the Alps or any interesting twisty rural ride. I've always considered most of these standards on every continent to be self serving, and easily controlled by the companies paying for the standards committees.

[@krollpeter]

@@STho205 It's the result of research work that has been done, hitting a penetrating object is the least likely form of accident. I can't proof that by showing any link, etc., it was too long ago that I read about this research article. I also stand by all the other statements I did regrading the dampening capacity. It is not my personal opinion that I sucked out from my fingers.

[@STho205]

@@krollpeter unless it kills you when you go over an embankment. Then it was important. There are few details in accident stats. They do the grossest collection. With/without, dui/clear, bad weather/fair, night/day We have a lot of MC deaths in Georgia and everyone is wearing a helmet...because you get a hefty ticket if you don't. However nobody has broken down deaths in the four extremely different riding regions.

[@MoroMagrew]

Fantastic video! I have seen a few videos about counterfeit gear, but this stands out as you went to an actual test centre and put those helmets through official style tests!

[@FortaMoto]

Cheers! Glad to hear that you enjoyed the video :).

[@comcastjohn]

The only way I buy gear is from Cycle Gear, as that is the only motorcycle gear and parts store in and near me in Ga. I only buy name brand Shoei as it is the only one that fits my medium oval head. I don’t care about the $700 plus price tag. My head is way too important. Just like my gear, I bought the KLIM Kodiak jacket and pants for $1800. I only buy high and reputable quality. You only live once, so why risk the possibility of shortening it by buying cheap or knock off gear. Great vid btw. 👍🤘

[@charlesvlcek2550]

I order from motorcycle superstore get dot and snell approved helmets only

[@Hermelin.G1]

Charles Vlcek DOT is really not safe though, as fortnine proved. EcE or Snell is good though =)

[@TheDiabeticBiker]

I was looking at helmets last night on Wish and couldnt believe how many people were saying they were great! The saying "if its too good to be true" applies here. Oh and the massive tell tale of a fake Arai? Internal sun visor.

[@genericultraammonia1061]

Right Arai refuses to put internal sun viser in their helmet they said it brings down the safety because the viser sits in a pocket between the shell

[@Unmaleable]

Yeah they're great until paramedics are trying to pry parts of the helmet out of their skulls.

[@ArthurNunes29]

Considering that helmets made in Brazil for Brazilian laws are very similar to those knockoffs, they seem really good. Would sell a lot here, without problems. (If you come comment “oh would you put your life at risk using those?” The answer is yes. Everyone would, cause nobody here has money to buy a real arai or bell helmet even if you find them for sale)

[@MartinMcloughlin]

Came across this video by chance, and it's also yet another reminder why you shouldn't rent a lid when travelling as you don't really have any guarantee on the lid safety ootb, let alone based on its life cycle.

[@ckc5185]

Ritchie, thanks for another great video! What is that banging song at 4:55? It rocks!

[@kobod]

Splendid quality video, unlike those fake helmets!

[@ArthurNunes29]

Brazilian helmets should be tested like these on video. Would be very helpful

[@x_jaydn]

Awesome review! Have you guys ever tested the ILM modular helmets?

[@unkindzx10r]

Could you do a video about authentic shoei,arai,agv,hjc ect,etc, on their cheaper models ,these big companies also make authentic cheaper models that go for around $200. and see how they hold up.

[@vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729]

How are they being allowed to be produced 😩

[@fakhrimf]

Thank you for this video, thank you for an amazing content and education! Keep it up!

[@niccoramos7965]

1 dislike from manufacturers of fake helmets

[@facial210]

On the Genuine black Arai helmet they could have at least centered the logo above the visor

[@michelbrisebois4317]

I would also use helmets that did not pass the cosmetic QC control for destructive tests.

[@M3Vader]

There’s a ton of fake Shoei helmets floating around. What’s unreal is they still are trying to charge around $400USD. If it’s too good to be true IT IS!

[@drvelocci]

Strange question. Was the visor itself of good quality. I was looking to buy a wish visor for use in football under my face mask. Was interested if you knew if it was worth testing?

[@Hermelin.G1]

just dont... You are saving money in the wrong places. The price will be forgotten, the quality not...

[@haziqismail308]

How much do u value your head?

[@jeffestrada6857]

I thought the knock offs helmets went quite well in the tests. Critical for the real and severe between the real and knock offs isn’t bad. I thought they would have been unsurvivable I wouldn’t dream of having fakes I have top line AGV Pista and mid range Arai helmets but found this interesting 👍

[@FortaMoto]

We expected them to do a little worse too, although they were up against aged Arai helmets that had actually been dropped and tested before - so the result of a brand new Arai helmet should be much better.

[@aidankilleen5889]

Yeah, I thought the same. At least they're better than nothing...

[@igvaneeden6529]

i suppose Arai or AGV has tried to take these guys to court, and failed, because in China there is nothing such as trade marks or patent rights. I only wear Schuberth helmets, as they are very very high quality, although not as well known as AGV, ARAI or Shoei (thanks Rossi, Doohan & Marquez for making these brands famous), so not a brand for these fake artists worth to copy. Also, i don't know about these famous brands, but Schuberth encourages you to register your helmet on their website, with it's serial number, to ensure it's authenticity. Guys, if your safety is of importance to you, pay that lot of extra more and get the real thing. if you can't afford the real thing, go to a dealer with a good reputation and buy a less expensive helmet, but that you know is the real deal. Shark, AGV, AIROH etc has all got good quality helmets, for a person that's on a tighter budget. Remember, rather less "Rossi" than a vegetable. Safe biking guys and girls!

[@ourbrightnewworld]

There is one rule of thumb that always applies: YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR

[@ishlazz1307]

Shame, this video didn't even reach 100k views. Every rider needs to know the risk using such helmet. Many can afford their dream bike but stingy when it comes to safety gear. Many prioritize looks than safety

[@Themobbdeepzz]

Very good and useful video. Thank you

[@FortaMoto]

You're welcome!

[@ClassifiedPerson]

In my country We use helmet alot like like those with foam but they are not knownoff brand, they have their own brand name It is about $ 10~12 Still Pretty safe we are not gonna penetrate with angle impact or press with car wheel or something Just to protect the fall damage on flat concrete road surface

[@ghostlypirate_5083]

It’s not an annoying tone, it’s the flatline tone

[@shawngreenwood7825]

Very interesting, I have purchased many things from Wish (not a helmet). Some electronics like fog lamps that were broke first off road drop (did not hit the lamps but the jar must have messed them up) and some mesh gloves that I really like. Buyers beware!

[@muhd.aimannurfirdaus659]

I have an agv soleluna fake helmet 😥

[@theonlybuzz1969]

Can I ask why you didn’t use the DFT authorised laboratory that does the testing for the SHARP program? They are based in Salford, Manchester. Just curious that’s all, have a great break "...Phil

[@FortaMoto]

That's a good question, and in our case we have a simple answer.. Arai offered to help us out with the testing, their test centre is located just over an hour away from our shop in Amsterdam. The laboratory that you're referring to is across the pond, a little bit more hassle to arrange.

[@theonlybuzz1969]

@@FortaMoto they are within the uk, in Manchester and are test the helmets to the British standards, maybe in the future who knows? Have a great break over the festive season!

[@theonlybuzz1969]

@@FortaMoto it was interesting to see how the cheap Chinese helmets failed as though it has had seam separation of the shell into two parts. I don’t condone the use of a cheap helmet, I do understand why, maybe if there was more information on how they are made in the first place then who knows how it might influence the buying market, all the best for 2021.....Phil

[@FortaMoto]

@@theonlybuzz1969 we will see! Maybe if we open a shop one day in the UK. Cheers for watching!

[@shawnmclean7932]

Is the imprinted date on D ring proof of an authentic Arai? I bought mine full price from speed addicts, but they didn't seem to back up that they only sell real helmets.

[@clemmie4]

Underrated.

[@johnh1001]

Why are there no aluminum shell motorcycle helmets out there in north America ?

[@michelbrisebois4317]

For the same reason you shouldn't wear steel toe caps riding a motorcycle. Its crushes in and they have to cut your toes out, as for your head wearing a metal helmet, you will be dead so no need to worry.

[@JeanLucMathay]

The impact test value for the genuine Arai was 188 g, what was the value for the genuine AGV?

[@FortaMoto]

I'm afraid we didn't have a spare genuine AGV helmet to test.

[@JeanLucMathay]

Oh sorry, I thought you'd also tested the original AGV. The value achieved by the real Araï is impressive, and it's frightening to see how poor the copies are.

[@fernandomendez2303]

Hey bro. Theres “new” réplicas. It seems pretty damn similar to the original. If you want the link i can give you. The seller send me some videos on facebook testing with a big hammer but Im still afraid to buy it

[@brandonmacon3317]

How about Soman motorcycle helmets?

[@alyasbomba]

can you buy a evo helmet here in philippines and try to do that crash test. here in philipines they use sledge hammer and it wonth break.

[@0010eldar]

I was about to buy a Carbon AVG helmet off Wish.com just to see what the quality is, it only costed 161 USD instead of 1400 USD like the real one. this helped a lot and saved me money hahaha, thank you :)

[@RonaiHenrik]

They put a random low value on it so you don't have to pay taxes/customs.

[@archygrey9093]

A bit like when you buy a used car privately for like $8000 but the seller puts the selling price at like $500 instead on the transfer papers so you don't have to pay as much tax

[@johnvangchhia3801]

thanks for given me a good idea for Buying Helmet

[@fortitudevalance8424]

Have a friend who used a fake Arai helmet and he paid the price after a 20mph accident. Now in a wheelchair with a speech synthesiser, similar to what the late Prof. Stephen Hawking used.

[@dzakanauf]

thanks for showing this, but can u show us the crash test of clone shoei X14 ?

[@FortaMoto]

That's actually one of the three helmets we ordered that never arrived! So I'm afraid we cannot show you the crash test because we weren't able to perform one. However, I don't think it would perform any better than the fake Arai or AGV helmets.

[@marktansell9399]

Very informative 😁

[@lindaferrell1838]

I came across this after seeing a commercial on Facebook knowing it was pure junk, but wanted to see if anyone had tested it n sure enough i was right. Ppl plz value yr head more than cheaping out on a helmet. It will cost plenty more in the avent of a crash. We are not promised a tomorrow. Im Dale Linda's fiancee. God Bless you all n stay safe. From a lil town in Tennessee..

[@zunaidkajee4540]

Hi Ritchie. This is Zunaid from South Africa. Do you do international courier to South Africa. If so which carrier do you use, and would you know the approximate days it would take before it reaches me? thank you kindly sir.

[@FortaMoto]

Hi Zunaid! For standard international shipping our carrier uses the national SA post, this can take up to 10 work days (excluding customs delays). If you choose DHL Express then it will take around 4/5 work days to get to you, this option is more expensive though.

[@grandeleader]

In the comments at 0.50 my Italian kinsman Maurizio is denouncing the counterfeiting

[@johndawd4616]

This is scary, it's the difference between life and death.

[@dayao46]

Can you order some evo helmet and test it pls

[@ericnarvaiz9216]

Wow no more amazon helmets for me

[@LEXZUS-xk7vz]

I want buy the black arai you have test

[@FortaMoto]

They don't actually make that specific model anymore, but you can find the successor here: www.fortamoto.com/brands/arai-helmets/sz-r-vas/

[@LEXZUS-xk7vz]

Thanks

[@NoTengoIlusiones]

This is crime territory here. playing with security it's a big no no.

[@KikeYarza]

Exactly as I expected 🙃

[@AG-mt1qb]

Sorry, but a bit misleading in the sizing. Sold in some countries in S-M-L Go to AGV, change country to Slovenia and see for yourself

[@FortaMoto]

I have no idea what you're getting at. In which way is this video misleading when it comes to sizing? The Pista helmets come in MS and ML, as mentioned in our video. This is regardless of which country you set the AGV website to.

[@alfie0311]

Otherwise, a great video - kept me from almost buying a very expensive clone that could have killed me.

[@rbfclaboratoryandstudio]

Why were results of only 3 helmets subjected to the tests shown? Why were those of the Genuine AGV helmet left out?? Or if it wasn’t even tested… then why? Even though I only consider buying and wearing expensive, highly-rated helmets myself, a good “FAKE” helmet is MUCH better than having no helmet at all.

[@FortaMoto]

I'm afraid we don't have spare AGV Pista's laying around. If we did, we would have definitely tested them for you.

[@nissengaming3670]

is mt helmets good

[@BoleDaPole]

So this is basically a sponsored video advertisement for the Arai helmets. Arent you supposed to tell the audience that so they know that Arai paid you for this? Or are the laws different in the UK

[@FortaMoto]

Arai haven't paid us a penny for this video. In fact, we were very pleased that they allowed us to use their testing installation for the dodgy helmets we bought online.

[@christianguenther1276]

Wish buyer: I saved a bundle on my "Arai" helmet--almost $1000.00. Leader of organ transplant team to parents of motorcycle rider: " I'm sorry, but due a catastrophic helmet failure, your son/daughter is now legally brain dead. Would you be interested in organ donation? Moral: Buy reputable helmets from reputable dealers.

[@MotorViewChannel]

Come on people, you see a super cheap helmet and you really think it’s not fake ! Wake up!

[@jamesrogers9949]

Even these are better than no helmet...like many riders in Usa sport. It all comes down to what level protection you want and how much you can afford im not paying any company 600 or 800 u s dollard for a helmet. Ridiculous arai shoei....

[@FortaMoto]

That's true. Although, anything would be better than no helmet. I'm not sure the insurance companies would agree when it comes to a survivable accident with an unsafe helmet, though. That could be a very costly and would quite possibly leave the rider with permanent damage. All Arai and Shoei helmets are handmade, hence the higher prices. Safe lids can be found for half the price or less, but with lesser materials and options.

[@rampage3337]

i just bought the 2015 winter edition agv xD think mine will be real though. allso that is not a AGV Pista fake. the pista version has a black stripe on the chine and som cursive text wich i belive is probably rossis signature. the helmet you got is a knockoff of the AGV K1 2015 winter edition :)

[@mx5701]

I strongly support folks who are dumb enough to buy helmets on Wish to also wear them on their bikes. More Darwin Award nominees, less idiots in our gene pool.

[@VSDeluxe]

These helmets will even not pass bicycle helmet Standards

[@kershawn227]

am i the only one who was waiting for the genuine pista to be tested?

[@jamescatlover123]

The difference is the original helmets has thicker Styrofoam and different type of casing. If the fake helmets doble or triple the thickness of the styrofoam in can almost match the original ones.

[@SkyLinMegas]

Subbed .. from across the pond Thanks

[@ferdyshelby5888]

Next suomy srgp and kyt helmet

[@charlesvlcek2550]

I dropped one of these cheap helmets that someone gave me on concrete and dented it I immediately threw it in the trash I'm going to stick with my $400 dot approved helmet

[@krollpeter]

Every vendor will tell you once you drop a helmet you should either send it for inspection, or throw it away. That's right, even a $ 1000 helmet.

[@LMO169]

@@krollpeter Because they are vendors. A regular drop from hip high does absolutely nothing to a genuine helmet. If it can't take that 13kph drop, how should it withstand a crash at much higher speeds? I know people who slid off while riding, sent their helmet in to the manufacturer for inspection and and it came back with a certificate for further safe use. If the shell doesn't show any cracks or dents, it's fine

[@krollpeter]

@@LMO169 I learned there is a big difference in between a helmet with a head inside, or empty.

[@henryairconcepts2999]

I’d still buy those knock off to look cool on instagram

[@daliborzak2485]

People: "We want to be safe!" Also people: *buy 40 € helmet

[@brodusclay2012]

Duidelijke zaak

[@rcfrenzy6477]

To be fair the people who buy the fake helmets have nothing in they skull to save anyway so it makes sense for them.😂

[@xentiskappa4273]

thank you very much for sharing this!!! finally a great test that show to everyone the real poor quality of the Chinese helmets. Be careful with your helmet! It can save your life and your head. I will certainly share this video on my socials accounts.

[@bonjourdy]

Let me guess. The fake AGV is actually a "DQL".... maybe?. It quite popular in asia, and even has "Lovers Community" in facebook

[@rizkypratama3338]

1:1 AGV PISA GPRR PLIS

[@insomniasgoku5225]

Imagine doing 50 or 100 km/h .. you would be 100% dead ..

[@martyk1156]

Keep in mind a $500 helmet should be thrown away after 3 years.

[@FortaMoto]

This is not true. A $500 helmet will typically be made from fibreglass (at the least) and can be used for up to around 7 years, if treated well. A polycarbonate helmet will cost you much less than $500 and will last you 4 to 5 years, if treated well.

[@sarabjeetsingh3425]

In India, most of helmet testing machie is fake.

[@blanchy]

I hope no one is wearing this. Could you imagine it just blowing apart while riding?

[@siddharthdesai6801]

People buying these helmets are not not be on roads

[@tuapuikia]

I only pay for a good quality helmet and not a cheap plastic bowl from China.

[@northidrecluse2306]

You kinda always get what you pay for 😎🇺🇸

[@LowRider11]

Omg

[@theriderdtm8650]

Helmet klon.... No,no,no....

[@fauzanyans5652]

Ayo ngaku siapa yg kesini gara" om Heikal 😁 di grup ASLI

[@faisalkurnia2893]

DQL, TSR, Shoei Copy

[@ridwanmochamad414]

Ane om:(

[@archygrey9093]

Wish is gross, avoid it at all costs.

[@dd-hi1dm]

I almost made this mistake once but I'm glad I didn't do it

[@sciencebitch7720]

I would pay 25 euros

[@y2knoproblem]

MADE IN CHINA

[@cedricksamaniego9146]

COOL♡