Fake Serial Killer | Thomas Quick (Sture Bergwall) Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

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This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Thomas Quick?
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@axelrobertsson9008
@axelrobertsson9008 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the biggest scandals in modern Sweden. They wanted a Swedish serial killer so they came up with one, not only destroying Thomas’ life but also helping the real killers get away. Thank you for this video! 🇸🇪
@tomarctus7587
@tomarctus7587 2 жыл бұрын
- it is a fascinating story, not because of Quick - because he was an asshole, but because of all the authorities (Remember we are talking about a lot of people with authority, perhaps hundreds.) - from judges, lawyers, police investigators , psychiatry, witness experts to journalists and the Public Opinion who were convinced he was a genuine serial killer. We are talking about a mass groupe thinking (remember almost the entire population of Sweden 10 million, not to mention the neighboring countries) and the clearest example of how confirmation bias works. All of the authorities - wanted - him to be a serial killer, when anyone disagreed they were labeled stupid, ill informed or they just haven't read (the confirmation bias) the things the authorities had read. The biggest crook is obviously psychiatry with all its woo woo, also supported by police investigators, "witness experts" and eventually by Judges. A few brave souls like Hannes Råstam and Leif GW Persson said all along this is a case of a mythoman, a Pathological liar. Now what is really needed is for someone to put subtitles on Hannes Råstam`s documentary "Thomas Quick". The biggest problem however is that no one with authority - as far as i know - has ever been held accountable. One of them are still teaching his students Quick is a serial killer and everyone else is wrong. As your neighbor to the west, we have also had several cases of wrongful convictions, nothing as big as Quick - yet - but we are still waiting for the outcome of a terrible case of child rape and killings (Baneheia drapene) - two small girls where raped and killed - where one accused person may have spend 21 years in prison for something he did not do. The mechanisms seems chillingly similar to that of the Quick case.
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 2 жыл бұрын
Right
@tomarctus7587
@tomarctus7587 2 жыл бұрын
@@turtleanton6539 Right or left - Do you have any further comments..sunshine..
@eliaswewel3899
@eliaswewel3899 Жыл бұрын
Thomas probably never killed anyone, but he still molested a bunch of little boys, so he should still be locked up, in my opinion, as he ruined the life of the boys. Still agree with you on that it was awfull that the real killers got away though.
@jadetaylor2443
@jadetaylor2443 3 жыл бұрын
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@theunforgiven2885
@theunforgiven2885 3 жыл бұрын
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@T.d0T.
@T.d0T. 3 жыл бұрын
It definitely helps to be financially motivated and I sincerely hope that the checks are in the category of incentives for sure by now that is one of the best side effects of all the time invested 👍 😀 enjoy every benefit good sir. Side note, Dr Grande, thank you. You're what I binged to during some of my hardest times to educate myself about mental illness and get some understanding about what I was experiencing at the time. I am a fan for life.
@jadetaylor2443
@jadetaylor2443 3 жыл бұрын
@@T.d0T. I am a graduate student, obtaining my degree in clinical mental health, @ Oklahoma University in December. My professor's use Dr. Grande videos for instructive purposes.
@bthomson
@bthomson 3 жыл бұрын
Boy! Both healing and education (as well as remuneration!) This channel is the bomb!👩‍🎓👩‍🔬🤑
@zsmith4853
@zsmith4853 3 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson Agreed. Well seconded, I seconded this.
@seferinorino6951
@seferinorino6951 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the excitement of the policemen when they thought they could solve every single murder since the 60s right there 😂
@thatsalt1560
@thatsalt1560 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I grew up thinking he was the number one Swedish serial killer. He was guilty of it all. Everybody knew about him. It was shocking when the truth came out. There's another somewhat similar case in Sweden where two boys were coached to "remember" killing a 4-year-old in their neighbourhood. They never really remembered but had to accept that they had suppressed it. They were completely innocent.
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatsalt1560 This is a very strange case. Since his many convictions were overturned, did the authorities ever find out who really murdered these people? So sad for the families, thinking their loved one's case was solved, only to find out they weren't.
@seferinorino6951
@seferinorino6951 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatsalt1560 I have an off topic question, with the lockdown I’ve been cooking a lot. I made Swedish cardamon buns, super tasty. Are cinnamon buns the same?
@jennievivi
@jennievivi 3 жыл бұрын
@@seferinorino6951 I am not the person you asked the question to but I am Swedish. Maybe I can help! The buns are exactly the same except you change the cinnamon to cardamon when ever you like. One or the other.
@thedude4795
@thedude4795 2 жыл бұрын
@@LDiamondz All the cases remain unsolved that Bergwall confessed to, as far as I know. As soon as he "woke up" from his benzodiazepine "haze" he realized that he'll be in jail for ever and began challenging the rulings and from there it took like 7 years until he war aquitted anyway.
@tove236
@tove236 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when he was claiming that he had killed a Norwegian girl called Therese, who disappeared in 1988. She's never been found. He was found guilty of killing her, something that really upset Therese's mom, seeing as she never believed he had anything to do with her daughter's disappearance.
@caninecurry5823
@caninecurry5823 3 жыл бұрын
Knowing that child killers were ignored so this nutcase could get some attention, is the worst part... He outta be put down just for that.
@mari97216
@mari97216 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I was pretty sure it was the Therese case, at least I remembered that right. I watched this on the news back when it all happened as a kid.
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 3 жыл бұрын
@@tove236 So sorry.
@Kari.F.
@Kari.F. 3 жыл бұрын
@@caninecurry5823 He died many years ago. The murders he confessed to were cold cases, so the killers had basically gotten away with it already. He's the Scandinavian version of Ottis Tool and Henry Lee Lucas in the US: Having a ball and getting attention while they "confessed" to just about every unsolved murder of women in the country. The police ate it all up, even confessions to murders that they knew that the two could not possibly have committed. Lots of investigations of murder cases were halted because of people like Quick, Tool and Lucas and many others then, and police forces desperate to get closure on their cold cases - all over the world. All these cold cases have been reopened, and most of them are just as cold as they were before these confessions. It has happened since then too, albeit to a lesser extent, and it will happen again in the future. Repressed memory was a psychologist fad all over the world back then. I actually think it started in the US. Or at least it was enormously popular there. It's easy to pass judgment after the fact, because as we know: Hindsight is always 20/20.
@linneaborgenstal2041
@linneaborgenstal2041 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kari.F. he's not dead
@h0rriphic
@h0rriphic 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas: “ I may have stabbed/strangled/shot/ran over/poisoned that missing man or woman you have been looking for… Cops: *Go on*
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
It DID sound almost exactly like that. Too bad they never believe innocent people when they say they didn't do it. These cops were duped by a nutjob.
@brucekiki6764
@brucekiki6764 3 жыл бұрын
The cops are just as nuts as he is.
@THE-RED-LETTER-PROJECT
@THE-RED-LETTER-PROJECT 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, you'll run right to 911 if shit hits the fan.
@Robert08010
@Robert08010 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's a fools assessment. They might be desperate to impress their higher-ups but to say they are as nuts as he was is just a bit stupid.
@brucekiki6764
@brucekiki6764 3 жыл бұрын
@@Robert08010 You must be fun to be around.
@brucekiki6764
@brucekiki6764 3 жыл бұрын
@@THE-RED-LETTER-PROJECT What a stupid rebuttal.
@Robert08010
@Robert08010 3 жыл бұрын
@@brucekiki6764 Yeah, I'm a handful. LOL.
@thelocalmaladroit8873
@thelocalmaladroit8873 3 жыл бұрын
Such a sad case for Thomas. You did a compelling and intelligent analysis here Doc. The system took advantage of him. Your channel is my favorite!
@christinabernat6709
@christinabernat6709 3 жыл бұрын
The system took advantage of him? Totally disagree! He got his own office and computer and restaurant meals and furlough days in leave while confessing to being a serial murderer! HE took advantage of the system! He made fools of everyone!
@TGFalk
@TGFalk 3 жыл бұрын
​@@christinabernat6709 There are lunatics who will do anything in this world. So we ought to have a system that can withstand that. But somehow these clowns, in powerful positions, played along with this frivolous case. Makes me wonder who the real lunatics are that should be locked inside a psych ward.
@Flygsand
@Flygsand 3 жыл бұрын
The system took advantage of him, and he took advantage of the system. The police wanted to close cases, and he wanted attention. The real victims are the families of the dead or presumed so.
@thelocalmaladroit8873
@thelocalmaladroit8873 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flygsand Right. I get it.
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flygsand The real victims are people who got preyed upon because police didn't catch the real killers.
@scottswenson9920
@scottswenson9920 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is good. He's a good example of careful, well-considered thought, his critical thinking skills are a good example for any viewer and especially for a society that is in desperate need of just such skills. Scott Baxter, M.D.
@ursodermatt8809
@ursodermatt8809 3 жыл бұрын
who are you talking about? grande or quick?
@geekblondie5904
@geekblondie5904 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my, you made my day Todd‼️ This should be sooo interesting to watch and hear your thoughts on. Hugs from Sweden ❤️ 🇸🇪 ❤️ 🇸🇪❤️
@mari97216
@mari97216 3 жыл бұрын
Agree 🇳🇴 this case was all over the news, especially when he confessed to killing that Norwegian girl.
@thatsalt1560
@thatsalt1560 3 жыл бұрын
This was such a scandal. Imagine the families of the victims and then all the actual murderers who were never caught because Quick was assumed to have done it.
@svenknutsen8937
@svenknutsen8937 3 жыл бұрын
@@JS-uw1pr Nä, det är du inte! 🙂
@geekblondie5904
@geekblondie5904 3 жыл бұрын
@@JS-uw1pr Jättekul ‼️
@geekblondie5904
@geekblondie5904 3 жыл бұрын
@@svenknutsen8937 😁
@emilyhollis4231
@emilyhollis4231 3 жыл бұрын
All of the red flags...guessing at weapons, no specific preferences, and the cherry on top: mental health professionals using the old "repressed memories" line. This was a very interesting case, Dr Grande! One I've never heard of before now.
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 2 жыл бұрын
Famous in Sweden
@LouisGiliberto
@LouisGiliberto 3 жыл бұрын
"The police consider confessions the best evidence" Yes, but not for finding the guilty. It's the best "evidence" to convince a jury to convict. That's part of the problem. Like Dr. Grande points out, multiple sources of evidence should be correlated to find the truth if one is seeking truth rather than just a conviction of a particular individual.
@annebritraaen2237
@annebritraaen2237 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@sharonrenedavenport8995
@sharonrenedavenport8995 3 жыл бұрын
🎯
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, perfectly stated.
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever see the Frontline documentary The Confessions? Must-see.
@ss-leifbarsark7767
@ss-leifbarsark7767 3 жыл бұрын
We dont have jurys in Sweden,and what people seem to forget he raped a young boy! He was not just accused he was convicted for molesting a young child.. The murders he was not guilty of though..
@thomasdoubting
@thomasdoubting 3 жыл бұрын
To my recolection, he even "recaled" seeing his mother giving birth to a baby that both parents muerderd it in front of him.
@pudding7876
@pudding7876 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always worried I might be framed for something I didn't do but here is the complete opposite! Thanks as always for the fascinating cases and breakdowns Dr. Grande!
@niklase5901
@niklase5901 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! This was a huge scandal here in Sweden. So many crazy things in this scandal, but the worst thing could be that those involved in getting Quick convicted (prosecutor, health care experts, a police officer), have kept on arguing that the conviction was correct. In Sweden the scandal is often described as the result of a combination of “group think” and pseudoscience.
@kimbell6689
@kimbell6689 3 жыл бұрын
It's powerful when you provide statements about competence, such as when you explained that allowing for other opinions helps prevent bias and is a sign of professionalism, rather than a weakness.
@barbaradiederich3709
@barbaradiederich3709 3 жыл бұрын
True. Isn't it strange how social media decides who's opinions are allowed a voice. One wonders why. Could it be they are afraid of opposing views.
@mazterarius
@mazterarius 3 жыл бұрын
Semi-famous in Norway. Suspected of one or two murders. Same story and result as you mentioned. Try Sturé or even Sturë. We respect our E's :)
@Ceerads
@Ceerads 3 жыл бұрын
I love the ë especially! É should be wearing a beret.
@nathlom6723
@nathlom6723 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for going in to different cases around the world. Another one from Sweden is a case simply known as "the case Kevin" (fallet Kevin). It's where a 4 year old boy got killed in Arvika. Two brothers who were 5 and 7 at the time got accused of the murder from the police. But in later years video has shown how badly the investigation was in this case. It would be interesting to see your analysis of the investigation and how it can effect a person mentaly, when society thinks they have committed a murder.
@MissWhiskers
@MissWhiskers 3 жыл бұрын
Or the case of Christine Schürrer, the crazy German woman who out of jealousy bludgeoned two innocent toddlers to death with a hammer and nearly killed the mother (who would survive and would later be able to point her out as the murder). This heinous act, that was committed in Sweden, was perpertuated solely out of spite as Schürrer had previously been involved with the mother's boyfriend, who had later rejected her. Schürrer laughed during the police interrogations and made jokes completely inappropriate considering the gravity of the matter. (She was convicted despite the lack of physical evidence connecting her to the scene, thanks to an abundance of circumstantial evidence.) If you could provide an analysis of this case, of this chilling female psychopath and childkiller, Dr Grande, I would be forever grateful.
@jennievivi
@jennievivi 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissWhiskers agree. That case is horrible. It gave me nightmares at the time.
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
This was an interesting case. It's a bit disheartening to know that the criminal justice system/police can be as incompetent in other countries, as our own. The mental health professionals, in this case, were even worse. I'm glad you talked about that, as well. Bias is definitely not something a mental health professional should have. Thank you for another great video, Dr.Grande. Appreciate all the effort you put in for us. Is that another new cactus on the floor? And the lamp is back, too. 🤗 Love what you've done to the place. Again! Keep up the great work, you're becoming a legend all over the world. You deserve it... ❤❤
@jdo5748
@jdo5748 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from GBG, Sweden! Hm, hur många svenskar tittar på detta?
@henrikpettersson2886
@henrikpettersson2886 3 жыл бұрын
En hel del verkar det som :)
@LA-zy3ht
@LA-zy3ht 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings heter det
@jdo5748
@jdo5748 3 жыл бұрын
@@LA-zy3ht Hahaha, kräver en rättning!
@junglekimmy3611
@junglekimmy3611 3 жыл бұрын
Jag
@emptypromises2962
@emptypromises2962 3 жыл бұрын
Ett gäng.
@gwynek9846
@gwynek9846 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, you're putting out so much good content! Are you taking enough time for self care? I miss your funny bloopers and jokes ❤️
@bthomson
@bthomson 3 жыл бұрын
Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds! Dr. Grande has a very large intelligence and therefore we can always expect something new and different!
@Jaksi-a
@Jaksi-a 3 жыл бұрын
I would like it explained why there is "no such thing as repressed memories". What's the reasoning behind that statement?
@ITIsFunnyDamnIT
@ITIsFunnyDamnIT 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah same here.
@diegonatan6301
@diegonatan6301 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Grande made a video about it in 2018 already.
@joycewilliams967
@joycewilliams967 3 жыл бұрын
What a sad case. Thomas confessed to these murders because he was then treated as someone “special” in the mental health facility. How desperate he must have been for falsely confessing to murder to be a good thing to his way of thinking. I feel so bad for those families who thought that they had closure at last for their loved ones death only to have that closure ripped away. So very very sad.
@thedude4795
@thedude4795 2 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, if it helps; Thomas' admissions where so weak that they shouldnt have ever been believed as long as they where. Nobody really challenged them until he changed his own mind years later. He was heavily benzo'd up, however.
@annebruecks7381
@annebruecks7381 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dr! I was hoping you would clarify something you alluded to in this video. Do you view all or most repressed memories as ‘inaccurate’? I was a bit confused if you were referring to this case specifically, or if you had a broader sentiment regarding repressed memories and their validity in general? I appreciate your viewpoint on these issues and wanted to ask, in a larger sense, how much weight you put on these memories when they come up? Of course, I’m not assuming you are diagnosing any particular person and was only hoping to generate an interesting discussion here in the comment section! 😉 Edit: Oh boy, I just read some comments, and I totally understand if you don’t want to get involved in this quagmire! At any rate, I Highly enjoy your videos Dr. Grande. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication ❤️
@siainvestigationsteam2713
@siainvestigationsteam2713 3 жыл бұрын
Doc can you do an analysis on KZbin sensation Charlie Zelenoff?
@AndersTheSphynx
@AndersTheSphynx 3 жыл бұрын
Please do the kevin Brothers bit on your podd and wilma andersson
@yolipurpleflower9895
@yolipurpleflower9895 3 жыл бұрын
It's rare that someone such as Thomas Quick, would want to be arrested as a serial killer. That was a dangerous game he played. Strange guy! Another excellent video! Thanks, Dr. Grande!
@ss-leifbarsark7767
@ss-leifbarsark7767 3 жыл бұрын
Watch the movie Quick that came out in 2019 i believe it was.. I highly recomend it if you want to know how it went down with the whole confessions and the journalist who blew the story about it
@yolipurpleflower9895
@yolipurpleflower9895 3 жыл бұрын
@@ss-leifbarsark7767, thanks for this tip. I will look this video up.
@principecaprincipeca2243
@principecaprincipeca2243 3 жыл бұрын
He is just a very sick individual.
@andrewjackson7511
@andrewjackson7511 3 жыл бұрын
He also got medication prescribed. And promised more Benzo if he kept making confessions. The justice system was not interested in solving the murders. Just getting a conviction.
@joedennehy386
@joedennehy386 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. If you are going to be locked up for probably the rest of your life, you may as well go hard, be the biggest you can, be famous. People do lie, and he got great treatment, one thing led to another
@lnc-to4ku
@lnc-to4ku 3 жыл бұрын
This entire video was just incredible, but the closing was absolutely brilliant! As I've said before, your work ethic and the level of insightful and intelligent content you provide us with is incomparable, and incredibly appreciated! ♡♡ When and if you do take a very over due vacation, we'll all cheer for you!🍹🌞
@creepyoldlady1268
@creepyoldlady1268 3 жыл бұрын
This could be filed under "What happens when absolutely everybody screws up" except that Quick literally couldn't screw up his confession enough.
@nunyiabidness3525
@nunyiabidness3525 3 жыл бұрын
This is the strangest case; thanks for covering it. I believe the clinical diagnosis for this man would be nutbag.
@perleax
@perleax 3 жыл бұрын
As a Swede I'm impressed by your knowledge in this case, but at the same time you fail to see some main points. 1. There was a crew of people around him - police, judges, lawyers, journalists - who made their careers on this case, and encouraged him to confess more and more murders! They didn't care that it was all a lie 2. Thomas Quick was a drug addict, and by confessing to new murders, he was regulary "rewarded" more drugs by the medicial staff that took care of him. So he keeped confessing to get his drugs.
@TheBeautifulWindsofAragon
@TheBeautifulWindsofAragon 3 жыл бұрын
He had also tried to rape and murder a student in Uppsala. People seem to forget that this is still a man guilty of a serious crime. It is not black or white.
@Starcrow999
@Starcrow999 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this /Swedish viewer.
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds as if it should be very interesting.
@glassboxes
@glassboxes 3 жыл бұрын
no
@blueeyes6852
@blueeyes6852 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@glassboxes
@glassboxes 3 жыл бұрын
@@blueeyes6852 fine.
@principecaprincipeca2243
@principecaprincipeca2243 3 жыл бұрын
He is an interesting and a very sick) person and all that happened alone him. This is a very short time to dig in to Thomas Quick and the crames he confessed.
@dylanwatson8133
@dylanwatson8133 3 жыл бұрын
How does Dr. Grande make such amazing videos every day!?!? One might say that if I had a nickel for every interesting video makes, I would have a sufficient quantity of nickels.
@aldinaatic9360
@aldinaatic9360 3 жыл бұрын
We can speculate how in the comment section :D
@peternystrom921
@peternystrom921 3 жыл бұрын
He is part of the Grande, Please colab With Ariana next.
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 3 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty incredible. In addition to it, he also posts videos quite frequently on his Patreon and also on the Podcast.
@sdsurfgirl60
@sdsurfgirl60 3 жыл бұрын
That's a cool way to make money, Dylan. 🙂
@Richard.P
@Richard.P 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he records several videos at a time and them posts one a day
@-Lotek-The-B0T-ASSASS1N
@-Lotek-The-B0T-ASSASS1N 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say the police were a bit too quick to judge... Ok i'll leave now.
@jollyrogers75
@jollyrogers75 3 жыл бұрын
How do they know that after he was released, he wouldn't actually go out and start murdering people to get the REAL attention he wants? He has a violent past and is obviously mentally unstable. I hope they kept their eye on him.
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and then they wouldn't believe him if he confessed! It seems cops are incompetent all over the world!
@rayross997
@rayross997 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please cover the genocide in Rwanda? In one case a teacher & soccer coach killed children he had taught & coached. How do people justify such actions?
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, that is grizzly. I wish he would cover this.
@paulphilpott8616
@paulphilpott8616 3 жыл бұрын
We had the same thing happen in Texas with Henry Lee Lucas. The Texas Rangers still defend their investigation., Can any man afford such arrogance?
@jamaaldavis6243
@jamaaldavis6243 3 жыл бұрын
I am currently in the middle of watching your upload from yesterday and I just a notification that you uploaded this. More to watch after I finished yesterday's video :-) You're such prolific uploader - thanks for all your work in recording and editing these videos, Dr. Grande!
@grumpyoldlady_rants
@grumpyoldlady_rants 3 жыл бұрын
EDIT: I’m editing this because I want to clarify what I wrote. I believe people can have repressed memories. What I know now is nonsense is Recovered Memory Therapy. Many people were essentially “forced” to remember things that never happened. Remember the satanic panic of the 80s? I’m glad that the whole repressed memory nonsense was debunked and put to rest. So many lives were harmed by it. Years ago, I was working with a psychologist who had jumped on the repressed memory train. I felt like he really wanted me to “remember” being sexually abused at preschool age. In thinking about it between appointments, I got to thinking about the stories my parents told of me having to get my stomach pumped a few times because I got into stuff that was harmful. While I don’t have any memory of it, I would imagine, as a 2-3 year old, it would have been very traumatic to have my stomach pumped and could explain a choking sensation I would feel during my sessions with the Psychologist. So, I asked him if getting my stomach pumped would cause that feeling. All he said was “It could” then went back to trying to get me to remember being sexually abused. I was sexually abused when I was 10 and I definitely never forgot anything about what happened so if I had been abused at a younger age, I would probably have some memory of it. I have an excellent memory with I several memories from when I was 3 years old and even I’ve ir two from when I was 2.
@Mama_Bear524
@Mama_Bear524 3 жыл бұрын
That’s insane. I’m sorry you went through that.
@grumpyoldlady_rants
@grumpyoldlady_rants 3 жыл бұрын
@larry lawrence - I’m really talking about the therapist who basically forced people to have a “repressed experience”. But, I’ll say this - I had a lot of trauma in my childhood and once I reached about age four, I never forgot any of it.
@gnlout7403
@gnlout7403 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting topic I started looking into a few years ago. Christine Blasey Ford was apparently involved in hypno therapy involving repressed memories (I'm politically independent for the record - not trying to make a statement. It's one possible explanation for those events). Also the Netflix show 'the keepers' about the murdered nun had repressed memories at the center of the series where an abused girl started remembering past situations - some of which were fairly stunning and difficult to comprehend as actual events. I know there was a well known case about a father who was (apparently falsely) accused by his daughter. There are people who go through hypnotherapy and 'remember' events that they couldn't possibly have known about first hand. It's definitely a controversial topic.
@rebeccaspookyduran7864
@rebeccaspookyduran7864 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever been fooled by a patient? Has anyone ever come in with the story that seems so real that you just believed it immediately or were you able to pick up on their BS? Or at least question it
@mysurfing3550
@mysurfing3550 3 жыл бұрын
He's fooled by a lot of the rona propaganda so it's likely he'd trust people with credentials even if the evidence isn't legit.
@xRuralJuroRx
@xRuralJuroRx 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Been asking for this one for a while, thanks for looking into it. :-)
@krisinpa8302
@krisinpa8302 3 жыл бұрын
What a crazy story! For the price of a roast beef sandwich the police had their own John Edward. I'm seeing a hammer...Anyone? Uh, um, I'm seeing a gun.. Um, the letter P is coming through..was it a pipe cleaner?
@IzzyOnTheMove
@IzzyOnTheMove 3 жыл бұрын
Murder by pipe cleaner 😄😄😄 now that would take a lot of rage
@Thundersnowy
@Thundersnowy 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Grande, your storytelling is excellent and I really look forward to hearing you not diagnosing anyone every day! I also get a kick out of your plants. I've got a whole dramatic storyline going on with them moving all around.
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
He's not telling stories, He's speculating, remember? :)
@bthomson
@bthomson 3 жыл бұрын
Once upon a time long, long ago in a forest of cacti...
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson ....and they all lived happily ever after. : )
@pyenygren2299
@pyenygren2299 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. It shows that Thomas Quick was mistreated in many ways by many "profesionals". As a swede that have heard a lot about him, it feels good to know that the truth was revealed at last.
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
Did they ever find out who really murdered all those people? So sad for the families, believing their loved one's murder was solved. The police did a terrible injustice to the victims.
@Flygsand
@Flygsand 3 жыл бұрын
​@@LDiamondz No. In all but two cases that led to conviction, the statute of limitations has expired. Nowadays, there's no statute of limitations on murder in Sweden. This new law only applies to those two cases. So unfortunately, most of the families will never have that closure.
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flygsand Oh, how terrible that must be for the families, and the entire country, as well. They might have solved all the murders, had they not concentrated on this one man. Very sad. I'm glad there's no statute of limitations for murder, now. So, this doesn't happen again. Thanks for letting me know.
@eivindnyhus9181
@eivindnyhus9181 3 жыл бұрын
Being Norwegian, I remember seeing the Thomas Quick-case on the news as a child in relation to a kid that disappeared in Drammen. It was the first time i realized some people out there was evil and wanted to hurt others and i was terrified. Ironic that it turned out he never did any of it.
@GrandmaRose9000
@GrandmaRose9000 3 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone *want* to to treat a serial killer? The clinicians sound bizarre. "I'm lucky to have a serial killer as a patient." What the heck?
@christinabernat6709
@christinabernat6709 3 жыл бұрын
It is sad, but the public - or within their professional circle - attention they get raises their STATUS as a result - gets their name into history books, into case studies, into media coverage, into a movie if one is made about the serial killer (hmmm, what actor will play me? Maybe I can play me!), etc. Sad though - for them to think like that!
@johnmccabe1974
@johnmccabe1974 3 жыл бұрын
Who considers Thomas a victim? He gained notoriety and privileges from his lies. He started the ball rolling for a bunch of closeted and ambitious clinicians with those lies. He was prepared to enjoy those lies benefits for a number of years and his final admission of falsehood appears to have cost him nothing as far as punishment goes.
@BigZebraCom
@BigZebraCom 3 жыл бұрын
Aren't fake serial killers the worst? Just the worst! except for the real serial killers, of course.
@davidkrech4671
@davidkrech4671 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, I have spent time in therapy for PTSD and autism spectrum disorder. So I find your work fascinating!
@flotreize3447
@flotreize3447 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Dr Grande, are you considering doing a video on Rachel Dolezal case ? It could be most interesting. Many thanks.
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
I think he did that one a long time ago.
@flotreize3447
@flotreize3447 3 жыл бұрын
@@LDiamondz couldn't find it. Do you have the link to that video ?
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 3 жыл бұрын
@@flotreize3447 I looked and couldn't find it, either. It might have been on his Patreon.
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 3 жыл бұрын
I, unfortunately, have taken lots(and lots)of Benzos in my life. The "memory enhancement" qualities of them is not great, to say the least. As a matter of fact, Benzos would probably be someone's last drug of choice to retrieve some kind of repressed memories.
@gcham1209
@gcham1209 3 жыл бұрын
"IM SANTA AND THIS IS A HO HO HOLDUP!!!!!"
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
lol.
@mrs.reluctant4095
@mrs.reluctant4095 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Cuteness overload when doctor says Sture Bergwall. Not a hundred percent convinced, that' this is the proper pronounciation. But that's okay, that's our American doctor. ❤️
@nono-gw7qm
@nono-gw7qm 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not, I’m Swedish 😂❤️
@junglekimmy3611
@junglekimmy3611 3 жыл бұрын
@@nono-gw7qm agreed lol
@irishis3
@irishis3 3 жыл бұрын
How do you pronounce it?
@junglekimmy3611
@junglekimmy3611 3 жыл бұрын
@@irishis3 He was on his right way but it should have been a longer eeee at the end. Like Stuu-reee ( kinda like kombinding the word stew and re (do re mi fa so la ti)
@m.f.richardson1602
@m.f.richardson1602 3 жыл бұрын
Who cares. Do you always get things right 🙃
@Strype13
@Strype13 3 жыл бұрын
Is it still considered an alibi when the person has zero interest in using it to prove they weren't complicit?
@LouisGiliberto
@LouisGiliberto 3 жыл бұрын
Alibi means specifically that one is saying - or has evidence - that they were not at a place when an event occurred. So in a sense, yeah, if the cops ask me "Where were you june 3rd at 8pm" and I say I was at Denny's eating a Grand Slam, then it's an "alibi" even though I have zero interest in proving I wasn't complicit simply because I don't know that I need to or what for. But if the cops asking me where I was, and I say "Oh I was in the room with the victim" then that's not an alibi whether or not I care because the premise of an alibi is that I wasn't at the place where an event occurred.
@bthomson
@bthomson 3 жыл бұрын
PZ- good question!
@jonathankessler7436
@jonathankessler7436 3 жыл бұрын
He was just doing the interviews for the free benzodiazepines.
@shaman9628
@shaman9628 3 жыл бұрын
So you do believe in Conspiracies.....You are such a hypocrite!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 3 жыл бұрын
The lamp is back! Whew...carry on
@analogalien651
@analogalien651 3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised to hear there’s no such thing as a repressed memory as per dr grande without going into why trauma victims who suffer from traumatic brain injuries and amnesia can’t remember what happens, which happens all the time and survivors are used as witnesses against them on trial
@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139
@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, a lot of trauma does get repressed and the victims literally can't remember things that happened to them. I found it odd the way he said it, maybe he would use different terminology for this phenomenon?
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
This seems like a good suggestion for Dr. Grande's next video. You both make a good point.
@dennisfranssonfransson1055
@dennisfranssonfransson1055 3 жыл бұрын
You can lose you memory because of accident, old age. You can't lose your memory because you want to (that's what repressed memories mean)
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
@@dennisfranssonfransson1055 Too bad we can't. I'd like to forget a few things, and people.
@Jabo__Jabo
@Jabo__Jabo 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande: would you please take a look at the Garrett Phillips case?
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 3 жыл бұрын
False confessions are remarkably common, and this fact is highly counterintuitive. This is one of the first things criminal lawyers learn.
@kazamamuramasa8201
@kazamamuramasa8201 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't you do Marjorie Taylor Greene...?
@aileenburke4667
@aileenburke4667 3 жыл бұрын
A pipe cleaner or something. 🤣🤣🤣
@claytonbigsby1436
@claytonbigsby1436 3 жыл бұрын
🤔 If they were truly worried about the variant the border would be closed, 😆Right!!!
@johaniln
@johaniln 3 жыл бұрын
Many books has been written about this interesting case. I've read The Stange Case of Thomas Quick by Dan Josefsson, which I really recommend. There is also a Swedish feature film called Quick from 2019 by the director Mikael Håfström.
@Oneofakind123
@Oneofakind123 3 жыл бұрын
You pronounce the e in his name. StuurE. Got the surname close enough though 😉
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
lol. If you think that pronunciation was bad, you must be new here! It's just one of his many endearing traits! Welcome to the show! :)
@louise2467
@louise2467 Жыл бұрын
I would want you, DrG, to work with my lawyer, if I ever get arrested falsely, of a grizzly crime!! Obvs if I really did do it, I’d prefer it if you stayed away…….🤨😣
@annebruecks7381
@annebruecks7381 3 жыл бұрын
Well, now I’m going to be on the lookout for ‘murder by pipe cleaner’ thanks Dr. G! 🤣
@YTStoleMyUsername
@YTStoleMyUsername Жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, would you consider doing a review on the Hulu/FX Show "The Patient" with Steve Carrell? It brings up interesting points to consider. Most importantly, if a serial killer (or potential serial killer, or mass murderer, etc) would come to a therapist for help to stop their crimes or prevent them from giving in to the urge to kill, how would a therapist handle that? Many people see these awful stories in the news and we say to each other "There were so many red flags, if only something was done sooner" ... What is that "something?" The show is not over yet but maybe when it is it would be great if you could consider it as a potential topic. Thanks for your amazing work!
@freemeow
@freemeow 3 жыл бұрын
I found it more engaging then a confession great job doctor
@EgaoKage
@EgaoKage 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like, in addition to Thomas' own motivations for making such claims, he was being exploited by law enforcement.
@alimar0604
@alimar0604 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't help laughing out loud at your deadpan presentation of this bizarre case. But, importantly, you look so handsome in your pale blue shirt 🎽🇬🇧
@dsbond8048
@dsbond8048 3 жыл бұрын
There are Keystone cops in every country. A similar case is the one of Keith Jseperson (Happyface Killer) and Laverne Pavlinac in Portland, OR. Please do a video.
@jessicaj8564
@jessicaj8564 3 жыл бұрын
Sture = stew-reh NOT Stirrrrhh
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
He's been butchering foreign names since the channel started. It's part of his charm. You'll get used to it. Welcome to the channel. :)
@thesurfinsuricate
@thesurfinsuricate 3 жыл бұрын
@Dr. Todd Grande - wouldn't Uday Hussein be an interesting subject to analyze?
@plutonium87
@plutonium87 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking this was a combination of a few people building their careers on this case (encouraging people down the line not to question anything too much) and Thomas got the attention he was craving for. One of several legal scandals in Sweden and yes - it sure helped undermine ones faith in the system.
@dougsteel7414
@dougsteel7414 3 жыл бұрын
Some cops are the worst people for the job. Just the worst people really. And if you think it's a tiny minority, that doesn't statistically fit with a whole department going along with this.
@sekenamcmurren2217
@sekenamcmurren2217 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas was like "I'll tell you whatever copper just buy me a burger"! Lol 😆🍔
@patriciabuuck5277
@patriciabuuck5277 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Thomas. The cops were ecstatic this guy confessed to everything. You'd think they would be a little bit suspicious
@CriticalityIncident
@CriticalityIncident 2 жыл бұрын
I think they were way too excited to be involved in a serial killer case to have any desire to be suspicious and use some critical thinking.
@loriannalamuse9089
@loriannalamuse9089 3 жыл бұрын
I had an ex-boyfriend tell me he was the happy face killer. He was not.
@erikparent8176
@erikparent8176 3 жыл бұрын
Well, at least he had a happy face! 🙂
@brianpratt3224
@brianpratt3224 3 жыл бұрын
Well that was quick
@cheridehart7771
@cheridehart7771 3 жыл бұрын
Ha, ha, ha, funny. Took me a few to get it.😇
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
lol.
@brrryan2908
@brrryan2908 3 жыл бұрын
A polygraph would have revealed the truth! Just messing with ya Doc! Lol! "Fake murders" is another real joy, by Dr. Grande! :)
@willydeezle
@willydeezle 3 жыл бұрын
Great video doc. Would like to see one on Markieth Llloyd
@nubbetudde8922
@nubbetudde8922 3 жыл бұрын
There is so to speak a "political" aspect of this to during this time there where a very influential professor in psychiatry and a "nationatial prosecutor" who believed heavily in repressed memories and other doubtable theories. Those two persons names you will se in a bunch of criminal investigations leading to destroyed lives of innocents in Sweden. Take look at the Kevin case. It is in my opinion one of the most upsetting cases.
@jonasaman9104
@jonasaman9104 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Christer van der Kwast (with more then willing help of Sven Å Christianson the pseudoscientific and unreliable professor of psychology) is the person that with out doubt have made the most damage to the Swedish justice system ( Sture Bergwall is more or less interchageble with any other nutcase willing to play along) If you will visit The Kevin case you will see Sven Å Christianson again :)
@debbiethompson14
@debbiethompson14 3 жыл бұрын
Vanity and ego run riot. On behalf of the conditions and the patient. Oh they all got attention all right but the negative kind.. Well I guess attention is attention.
@AnimalsMatterMorally
@AnimalsMatterMorally 3 жыл бұрын
Great insightful analysis of this case. 👍👍👍👍👍
@roynilsen7557
@roynilsen7557 3 жыл бұрын
the police in Norway dont care if they take right man, not even the court , so in this contry many not criminel sit in gail , and if the police dont like you, maybee you next time
@saminbloom3009
@saminbloom3009 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Grande! Long time viewer, first time commenter. Just want to thank you for the consistently amazing content. It’s hard to find nowadays. Always look forward to your videos ✌🏼
@andybeans5790
@andybeans5790 3 жыл бұрын
I was watching my last video at x0.5 so Dr Grande sounded medicated when I started this one 😂
@iainholmes2735
@iainholmes2735 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. But it does make one ponder: can pipe cleaners be dangerous in the wrong hands?
@zd5587
@zd5587 3 жыл бұрын
Quick”It was me, with a knife, in the kitchen.” Cops”we will give you another guess”
@veronikabelina3188
@veronikabelina3188 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that it was a big scandal here in Sweden when the truth finally came out. So embarrassing for the police, the lawyers, the doctors etc that they sentenced an innocent man for all these crimes that he never committed 🤦‍♀️
@fannyhemmafru2388
@fannyhemmafru2388 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering a case from my country Sweden! 💝
@erikparent8176
@erikparent8176 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Dr. Grande that repressed memories are not an issue. As a long time meditator I have trained my mind not to think of the past or create mental scenes about an imagined future. It is extremely benefical to leave past memories unveiwed. There is no need to go to a therapist and rehash all that crapola. Everyone needs to practice inner body awareness to heal old emotion as it comes to the surface and learn calming technics so that highly charged emotion is not created, in ones present life situation. The key to feelings of peace and happyness is to heal repressed emotion, which allows an internal natural joy to arise from within. The issue is not memories but repression of the emotions associated with past life scenes. We all have alot of repressed emotions because when they were generated, we buried them. This is why it's best to feel your inner body so emotion can't be hidden within. Putting attention on your inner emotional body so one is always concious of any emotions being generated, or arising from already stored emotion. All emotions are actually subtle electromagnetic wavelengths that when observed by an inner feeling, are transmuted into feelings of joy. Transmutation is a tuning of unpleasent reactive emotion into feelings of joy and peace. When we place concious feeling in our bodies we align with the awareness field which is non-physical and in turn change the frequency of any emotion, that happens to arise from our shadow tanks or new emotion that is being created. 🙏🧘‍♂️🧘‍♀️🌌🌠♾
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
Another uplifting comment. I enjoyed this one very much. 😘
@erikparent8176
@erikparent8176 3 жыл бұрын
@@LDiamondz Goodmorning! 🌄 Thanks for the nice comment. 😘😉😊
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 3 жыл бұрын
@@erikparent8176 And good morning to you. You know, I always love your comments like this one. Gives me something to think about, or makes me smile. 😉😘😗👍❤
@yasuke9317
@yasuke9317 3 жыл бұрын
And they say millennials are "Clout chasers".
@jerryc3050
@jerryc3050 3 жыл бұрын
lol: I swear, Dr. Grande, your last sentence of this video continues to demonstrate to me you arid, dry wit. lol!
@elanahammer1076
@elanahammer1076 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande can you consider doing any KZbin follow up content videos? I am curious as in this case if any cases where actually able to be solved? Unfortunately the time and resources that law enforcement and the mental health community spent on this individual may have taken opportunities to apprehend the perpetrator of these crimes. Thank you 🤔
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 3 жыл бұрын
Right before you said attention, I had the same thought. Sad & amazing what sick people will do & the counselors were just as bad. Thanks Dr G😊💟💟
@themysteriousdomainmoviepalace
@themysteriousdomainmoviepalace 3 жыл бұрын
As Dr Grande's psychology channel focuses on true crime.....lol!
@blueeyes6852
@blueeyes6852 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how people do what works for them, then find out later it didn't work at all. Sad that so many are lonely in a world of 331 million! I'm very much appreciative of you and what you do Doctor Grande. Thank you for helping us! 💛🌵🌻
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