Fall of Marienburg - Warhammer Fantasy End Times Lore DOCUMENTARY

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@WizardsandWarriors
@WizardsandWarriors 2 жыл бұрын
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@RK-cj4oc
@RK-cj4oc 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the hard work.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 2 жыл бұрын
This was a nice. But when are we going to get another Sci-Fi video from this channel.
@ValentineCorp
@ValentineCorp Жыл бұрын
What happened to gut rot spume when his ship was sunk?
@simonjohansson248
@simonjohansson248 2 жыл бұрын
Love how the vampire counts are like the mafia of the Empire. "We don't support the goverment, but if someone else come and mess with our town we'll give them hell!"
@Klishar122
@Klishar122 2 жыл бұрын
It’s even more ironic when you consider that the government enforces religion that labels the vampires as “unholy”.
@knightesquire36
@knightesquire36 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that you can make a dumpster-fire like the end times even a bit interesting is a testament to your skill
@coltonberry985
@coltonberry985 Жыл бұрын
They turned the genious of elves into idiots. and Chaos into Mary sues.
@Vandelberger
@Vandelberger 2 жыл бұрын
Love this video, but man, simply writing away how the Elven fleet was defeated rather than show incompetence or otherworldly assistance, really shows the level of writing in the End Times.
@sfp2290
@sfp2290 2 жыл бұрын
Even worse, when it is stated, that they are masters of sea battles and then proceeds to make them do beginner mistakes, at the level of sending your cavalry head first into a massive undead horde, during the night, with absolutely no vision and no support. They tell us that they are good, but show us that they are bad, in order to make the opponent seem better, is such a terrible way of telling a story.
@jamesw7565
@jamesw7565 2 жыл бұрын
I agree what awful GW writing. The Elven fleet a super fast well coordinated group got surrounded by a bunch of chaos rotting ships and long boats. Then a well built dwarf wall, which would had wards, gets defeated by some algae, really!!! Ow and forget the thousands of human troops that guard the city supported by cannons and magic. GW what have you done?
@canale39youification
@canale39youification 2 жыл бұрын
I feel ya. Especially after reading Tyrion & Teclis' books, jfc these writers worked really hard to make the elves look like bumbling idiots.
@justincronkright5025
@justincronkright5025 2 жыл бұрын
​@@sfp2290 This has been television too (much of U.S. television since so much gets made there anyway). I've noticed it going on for almost 20 years & I don't even watch a lot of television. But yes I don't get this Warhammer world in general, even 40k has a bit too much funk at times... but this end times stuff is just ridiculous.
@andrewdiaz3529
@andrewdiaz3529 2 жыл бұрын
My goodness they really "kinda just forgot about the Elven fleet". Levels of writing
@leeboy26
@leeboy26 2 жыл бұрын
Ah the End Times, my favourite 'reads like a term paper that needs to be done by morning' part of warhammer lore.
@hoabinhnguyen8839
@hoabinhnguyen8839 2 жыл бұрын
The only faction that seems to be written in a competent fashion is the Vampires
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 жыл бұрын
@@hoabinhnguyen8839 welll they forgot massive parts of the backstory of several characters, randomly revived comparably unimportant characters and forgot to revive Nagash most important servant, Wsoran the architect who is literally the father of all vampires (who was actually partially still alive). They also forgot the entire necrarch bloodline, which is weird as its the only one that remained loyal to Nagash and the most powerful of the 5.
@blitcut9712
@blitcut9712 Жыл бұрын
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Perhaps because they couldn't figure out how to make Chaos win in that case. Undead are essentially the counter to chaos, unable to be corrupted, able to keep up attrition wise and can easily be massed in large enough numbers to fight. Basically had they done it they would've likely implemented some Deus ex making the story even shittier than the current version, which is no small feat.
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Жыл бұрын
@@blitcut9712 erll they gave nagash other super OP new Deus ex machina shit while ignoring the several forces that were actually preparing for his return
@ellitho
@ellitho Жыл бұрын
@Kenji Azurai The End Times is a cannon, a cannon that blew up Warhammer Fantasy with hack writing.
@Emanon...
@Emanon... 2 жыл бұрын
The whole End Times storytelling reeks of Chaos Stan fanfiction.
@canale39youification
@canale39youification 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr? Especially in the way characters like Gelt or Tyrion were butchered.
@apollyon23456
@apollyon23456 2 жыл бұрын
I mean. It was always a forgone conclusion. Chaos was always going to win. The "good" God's barely ever interfere on behalf of their believers, while the Ruinous Power alwaaaaays do. The only thing that held them off was that they were too busy fighting each other. Throw Archaon into that mix, plus the skaven attacks the Empire stupidly tried to make hush hush, and it would have been a ridiculous event if they HADN'T lost.
@Canadian_Zac
@Canadian_Zac Жыл бұрын
​@apollyon23456 chaos definitely is supposed to win. That's the entire point of the end times. It's the way they do it that's dumb. It's not Chaos being clever. It's Chaos having unlimited numbers, and the defenders being morons
@CollinBuckman
@CollinBuckman 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of these ideas sound cool in theory but man it seems like Chaos is just overpowered. If a single Nurgle lord and his fleet could destroy two of the greatest port cities in the Old World pretty much by himself, how did Chaos not win beforehand? Why is it that so far almost every victory or near victory has only been possible because a vampire showed up and decided to help the humans?
@brianboru2762
@brianboru2762 2 жыл бұрын
Officially, the old world only lasted as long as it did because it was amusing for the Chaos gods to do so. Any one of them could have splattered the entire world by themselves without much effort but the long conflict was more fun for them. They've apparently been doing this over and over again for eons. Letting a few spirits and minor gods flee the blown-up world and build a new world only for Chaos to find them again and start the entire dance again. Everything before was a cat pawing at a dying mouse, now the cat has it's paw on the mouse and only has to press just a little bit to kill it. The four were bored and wanted to blow it up and see what few survivors built this time. Of course this is ****** stupid and I don't consider it canon.
@lvo9197
@lvo9197 2 жыл бұрын
Because the company making Warhammer fantasy was losing money with it, so they axed and told the writers to contrive a story were chaos wins in the end anyway.
@canale39youification
@canale39youification 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianboru2762 GW be like "Yeah fuck whatever rhyme or reason to give the setting a proper believable sendoff, Chaos was super duper invincible from the start anyways because yes, and good guy facilitate the already inevitable Chaos victory by acting out of chacter-ly braindead. Ulthuan, the Empire and Nehekhara all goes to shit within a week because Chaos 2strong4u. Nothin personnel kiddo, now go buy some Sigmarines"
@guilliman1990
@guilliman1990 2 жыл бұрын
They wanted to end fantasy. Little did they realise it was the best IP they had. The only thing they have that is close is 30k warhammer fantasy id peak table top an fantasy game.
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 жыл бұрын
@@guilliman1990 yeah the reason the IP sold so badly is because the rule and model quality and balance was terrible. It cost thousands of pounds to get into the game properly (not even kidding) and then you’d get your army wiped if you didn’t use the few meta things that worked.
@ElvenSupremacist
@ElvenSupremacist 2 жыл бұрын
Man, the End Times was such a cop out. No wonder nobody accepts it as canon.
@Paralysisbyanlysis
@Paralysisbyanlysis 2 жыл бұрын
No shit. They didn’t even try. It’s called end times, but it didn’t have to be so one sided
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 2 жыл бұрын
I was intesrested
@lvo9197
@lvo9197 2 жыл бұрын
​@@theawesomeman9821 The video is awesome: the problem was the original publication: warhmamer fantasy was selling poorly, so they decided to end it with the event, and it shows, because the plot bends and contrives constantly around ways for chaos to randomly win, contradicting established lore and characters. As a casual myself, I also enjoyed this series a lot, but for hardcore fans it s understandable why they hate it (I recommend pancreasnowork video on the end times to see what happened).
@raptonsoul2557
@raptonsoul2557 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest part of the end time is that it was so rushed that they actively reconed stuff in each book with the most stupid one being between Karl and sigmar
@guldarheel1204
@guldarheel1204 2 жыл бұрын
Those are the exact words I just used myself. A cop out.
@Doperwtje81
@Doperwtje81 2 жыл бұрын
I will never not hate that an official GW Warhammer book has a part where they go 'And then the bad guys noclipped through a wall!'.
@Michaelkayslay
@Michaelkayslay 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe for a second the Elves got ambushed and all died
@Denthrusdawn
@Denthrusdawn 2 жыл бұрын
Good example of Chaos using mods in Endtimes, ALWAYS OUTNUMBERING any guy, got magic and everything while the other side ALWAYS GOT NOTHING
@Aku6Soku1Zan
@Aku6Soku1Zan 2 жыл бұрын
The walls of the city crumbled because it just did okay! Man this is worse than fan fiction 😂
@philippluther6464
@philippluther6464 2 жыл бұрын
It's what I thought. Poof, written out of existence.
@canale39youification
@canale39youification 2 жыл бұрын
It literally is. The writer assigned to this project, according to an interview, was pretty much a Chaos fanboy who "hated how overpowered Order faction were" (quote)
@gotrekandslixem4882
@gotrekandslixem4882 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea that Nurgle, the chaos god of disease and death was also the chaos god of growing algae super quickly go act as an oil slick.
@jmeatball8799
@jmeatball8799 2 жыл бұрын
I always wonder what the End Times writers were thinking when the wrote the series, if they even were at all. As always Wizards and Warriors has made an excellent video, but it would be even better if the End Times writers actually thought about what they were writing. I'm so glad this isn't canon
@lvo9197
@lvo9197 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn´t completely their fault: GW had already decided to shut down fantasy because it wasnt making money, so they problably already told the the writers they had to destroy the setting in a single storyline.
@amandag.6186
@amandag.6186 2 жыл бұрын
@@lvo9197 GW: we're shutting down Fantasy. It's gonna get destroyed by Chaos Writers: how? GW: figure it out. You're on your own
@yourmotherisshameful
@yourmotherisshameful 2 жыл бұрын
"I always wonder what the End Times writers were thinking when the wrote the series" Man, the fans are gonging to love Age of Sigmar and the Sigmarines!
@shireboundscribbles
@shireboundscribbles Жыл бұрын
Ah, the End Times. Otherwise known as "Everyone has already bought the old campaign setting so we need to invent a new one for them to give us money for".
@yourkoreanbuddy1
@yourkoreanbuddy1 2 жыл бұрын
I think a video on the Lizardmen fighting chaos and skaven would provide relief to the viewers who think the forces of good never stood a chance. The Lizardmen were absolute chads and bought time for the elves to create the vortex.
@NoMoreCrumbs
@NoMoreCrumbs 2 жыл бұрын
These end times battles aren't even really fights, they're all one-sided slaughters of anything that isn't chaos. Bit hard to keep any tension in a story with no stakes
@ellitho
@ellitho Жыл бұрын
Ikr, walls disappearing, ancient era ship with plot armor so thick it'd make Jon Snow blush, terrorgeist zapped out of existence and the city defenders moronically abandoning any defensive fortifications because a dude died.
@The_Daily_Tomato
@The_Daily_Tomato 2 жыл бұрын
This all feels just a bit too much. Undefeatable evil champions, surprise vampire lord, magic dragon, roaming plague etc. Then just a bunch of humans with swords and muskets.
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is thing is that tjr oppsite was alway the complaint in warhammer fantasy, that the empire was individually so powerful that it was explicitly stated that none of the bad guy factions in the setting could feasible threaten it in a 1v1. Turns out having a modernizing early industrial state with an army that’s at least a million strong and armed with 17th to mid 18th century guns is quite scary
@jakemocci3953
@jakemocci3953 2 жыл бұрын
The humans with swords and muskets usually kick a lot of ass, that’s the whole point of the damn setting. Normal men prevailing against unspeakable horrors, with nothing but faith, steel, and gunpowder.
@The_Daily_Tomato
@The_Daily_Tomato 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakemocci3953 Usually yeah they do, might be a bit tricky against dragons 😄
@SeleucusNicator
@SeleucusNicator 2 жыл бұрын
Yes-yes can't wait to see-watch the future video about the Under Empire and glorious-great Skaven!
@Ghaztoir
@Ghaztoir 2 жыл бұрын
Shoulda had clan skyre and the warplocks be a big event for their endtimes lore, gunpowder changes their army dynamics
@VojislavMoranic
@VojislavMoranic 2 жыл бұрын
What always bugged me about Norscans. They seemingly spawn massive raiding fleets out of nowhere. While they live in what is essentially Greenland with Australian wildlife on cocaine. I wont even touch on the matter of "Viking longboat" vs Man-o-War with cannons. The Longboat would not be even able to board the bigger ship because it literally assaulting a castle at sea. Not to mention the matter of "Suddenly there were hundreds of thousands of naked Norscans" Brother in Sigmar they would die of hypotermia and hunger while assembling, not to mention the mere fact that such a population would require milions of "Civilians" in the background who would also need to eat and be clothed in a area not known for agriculture.
@cameroncall5163
@cameroncall5163 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or does Chaos seem a little OP? An entire elven armada: lost The Empire's largest fleet: sunk Impregnable walls of Marienburg: crumbled Human defenders: slaughtered Vampire counterattack: repulsed Human reinforcements: crushed
@Hatypus
@Hatypus 2 жыл бұрын
The fall of Marienburg was honestly one of the worst written parts of the endtimes. The fleet of the Sea Elves? One of the most powerful navies in the world, backed by their great mages and whatnot? Oh yeah they just uh... lost. How? Pffft like we'd write something good for that. Oh and the incredibly number of forts that line the river Reik? Pffft who cares about those.
@camzoned2349
@camzoned2349 2 жыл бұрын
I think halo might be a pretty fun series for y'all to go through. Even outside of the main games there's so many battles from the human-covenant war and prior that have background information and at least some basic tactics being used. Unit numbers are usually simple enough to find too. Love the channel and keep kicking ass!
@ellitho
@ellitho Жыл бұрын
That ship has more plot armor than Jon Snow. "it's catapults and ballista", I like how a trireme destroyed all these cannon ships.
@luisan776
@luisan776 2 жыл бұрын
Man Chaos plays like a 10 year old, oh you have a dwarves built sea wall? Surely you meant to say HAD. Are your superior canons destroying my ships? Of corse not, they deal no damage!
@npierce14
@npierce14 2 жыл бұрын
Man this series is so good Can’t believe it took me until the total war games to start looking into warhammer lore this stuff is gold
@JD-bk4zi
@JD-bk4zi 2 жыл бұрын
The more I learn about warhammer fantasy lore and the more I am disappointed with how shallow the games are ... WHY CAN'T MY GHOST PHASE THRU BUILDINGS AND WALLS. WHERE ARE THE EPIC MAPS
@guilliman1990
@guilliman1990 2 жыл бұрын
@@JD-bk4zi honestly they did a good job getting what they have done fantasy is straight up 2 big to do properly. Just the old world is 3 games worth what we have is going to have to be good enough
@jtoegi
@jtoegi 2 жыл бұрын
Naval Battles in Warhammer..... God I wish I could actually play that in Total War
@guldarheel1204
@guldarheel1204 2 жыл бұрын
The old "Man O War" series was Warhammer naval battles. It was fleets of miniature ships and later there was an online game. Pretty cool idea. Empire, Dwarf, Green skins, Dark Elf ships, spells, sea monsters, sea forts, etc. were all covered.
@seranonable
@seranonable 2 жыл бұрын
if only end times writers cared as much about the setting as the W&W team trying to salvage it
@NewLegacy93
@NewLegacy93 Жыл бұрын
4:32 "Having cleverly outmaneuvered" lol he really does try to soften the order armies throwing themselves on the chaos swords to progress the end times
@Diarmuhnd
@Diarmuhnd 2 жыл бұрын
"When your fleeing from CHAOS..." - Wizards and Warriors "Hahahaha" - me
@guilliman1990
@guilliman1990 2 жыл бұрын
Fantasy lore is some of the best lore ever done. Please please do some more warhammer fantasy lore.
@gangnamstyle5270
@gangnamstyle5270 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame the end times were so poorly written.... Love your series tho.
@MarkoFTW
@MarkoFTW 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing that can make The End Times "enjoyable". Love your work, Wiz team!
@MiguelSanchezDelVillar
@MiguelSanchezDelVillar 2 жыл бұрын
The worst part about that elven fleet is that they didnt need to be there, there was a War ocurring in Ulthuan at the moment, instead of saying for the 10th time that Chaos won the battle why not say that since there was no elven fleet the Glottkin could arrive to Marienburg without losing any ship?
@sirunklydunk8861
@sirunklydunk8861 2 жыл бұрын
Because then Chaos would look slightly less impressive and the writers needed them to look cool
@malekiththeeternityking5433
@malekiththeeternityking5433 2 жыл бұрын
Chaos was Mary Sue level cringe in End Times. Everything just kind of worked out for them
@18Krieger
@18Krieger 2 жыл бұрын
One of the ways to show that Humans and Elves are allied. At this point it was already clear that Age of Sigmar would happen.
@MiguelSanchezDelVillar
@MiguelSanchezDelVillar 2 жыл бұрын
@@18Krieger a shitty way to do it in my opinion, a lot of elves live in Marienburg, why not show that a significant part of the defenses of Marienburg are elves?
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 жыл бұрын
@@malekiththeeternityking5433 because well there are several fleets there more powerfull then the elven fleet. The dwarven fleet st Barrack Varr exists for the sole purpose to stop a naval chaos or elven invasion of their imperial Allie’s and the dwarfs are 100% certain they can best either with it (they have insanse ironclad battleships with runic naval batteries that could give a WW1 battleship a run for its money ) and two seperate imperial navies, which are both large and powerful by now, the marienburg navy and the Bretonia navy as Well
@dorogundam
@dorogundam 2 жыл бұрын
Lol the vampirelord got yeeted outside of a city
@jtoegi
@jtoegi 2 жыл бұрын
I really want to see a Tamurkhan series please!!!!
@manjilghale8359
@manjilghale8359 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are goateed especially how well the ads are placed into the video XD
@Clegane90
@Clegane90 2 жыл бұрын
Really great video!!! Appreciate your hard work a lot! For me the writers who did the end times seemed they were in a hurry, no one stood a chance against chaos, even though the human race of man had really strong and skilled full leaders and they were just slaughterd like butter
@fridriechrussofobber3500
@fridriechrussofobber3500 2 жыл бұрын
That´s such a shitty "siege". Wtf were the writers thinking
@matthiasbindl7085
@matthiasbindl7085 2 жыл бұрын
that is simply the end times in a nutshell
@MiguelSanchezDelVillar
@MiguelSanchezDelVillar 2 жыл бұрын
All sieges end in 1 or 2 days, just look at Middenheim
@matthiasbindl7085
@matthiasbindl7085 2 жыл бұрын
@@MiguelSanchezDelVillar fuck middenheim, look at bloody karaz a karak!
@Arutima
@Arutima 2 жыл бұрын
That's what happen when you have hack writers that never read anything about 17th to 19th century sieges.
@denorjigalaxen9230
@denorjigalaxen9230 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad that there is a channel like you
@lowenergyvideos4658
@lowenergyvideos4658 2 жыл бұрын
OoooOOoo and me being on a Warhammer Fantasy books bender as of late. Good timing!
@j.d.8162
@j.d.8162 2 жыл бұрын
watching this and crying
@SuperBadadan
@SuperBadadan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I totally buy that the greatest naval power in the Warhammer world was dumpstered in one day by a bunch of stinky tumour boys in longboats.
@903153
@903153 2 жыл бұрын
End Times really makes it seem like Chaos are the GOAT Mary Sue’s
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing nothing ever stopped them since this is called the end times. Nice video.
@comentnine1574
@comentnine1574 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a series on Marko Kloos’s Frontlines book series
@Emanon...
@Emanon... 2 жыл бұрын
Don't bother. There's no proper answers or conclusion to the story in the last book. Real shame.
@comentnine1574
@comentnine1574 2 жыл бұрын
@@Emanon... How dare you! It may not have any answers to some of the questions we have but it’s still a good read and deserves to have a series about it on this channel!
@Wvk5zc
@Wvk5zc 2 жыл бұрын
"But how???" "Because we said so, now shutup." - GW
@jesseberg3271
@jesseberg3271 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else starting to think they should have put the vampires in charge?
@Tsagia
@Tsagia 2 жыл бұрын
You should read the Fall of Altdorf,they have a role to play there.
@davidwhitfield6025
@davidwhitfield6025 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely putting Vlad von Carstein in charge might have very well saved the Empire - he, unlike many of his kind, actually wanted to save the Empire as it was and was happy now with just being recognised as Elector Count of Sylvannia. I hated that they made Isabella his achilles heel. Yes they just wanted to end the world so they could create a new one and screw us all for more money buying new models and army books. The forces of Order never stood a real chance.
@Tsagia
@Tsagia 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidwhitfield6025 Exactly man,exactly. And you know,under normal conditions,the this same Chaos invasion would have been repelled. But...writing like Gazghul not giving the final blow to Archeon and leaving just like that? Even for an Ork Warboss that's ridiculous.
@davidwhitfield6025
@davidwhitfield6025 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tsagia I wasn't going to spoil that absolute stupidity (it was Grimgor actually). Also even if this happened Archaon should have been immediately dropped by the Chaos Gods as no longer being worthy. Who follows a Chaos War Leader who isn't even worth being killed by an Ork?! There are a lot more. Thorgrim, Teclis' decision, Nagash, Settra and the Blood Dragon Grand Master. The whole thing makes my blood boil decades latter.
@Tsagia
@Tsagia 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidwhitfield6025 Sorry,I forgot his name and said Ghazgul :P
@Kilen_BE
@Kilen_BE 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent impatient to see the following 👍
@jakekilley9037
@jakekilley9037 2 жыл бұрын
i was convinced the vampire lord saved the day and we might have had a little push back then that reinforcement had to go along and get a big head rip!
@svagglaorde4387
@svagglaorde4387 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do lore documentaries on the Klendathu assault or any of the battles that happened in the Starship Troopers films or from the old 3d animated TV series?
@mattgrandich3977
@mattgrandich3977 Жыл бұрын
Another victory for the Forces of Chaos in a series where Chaos basically wins. One problem with the End Times is that one of the factors that enables Chaos to win is the endless numbers of its troops. The Norscan invasion here is basically endless in the number of warriors it can field, overwhelming the city’s mortal defenders with not only plague but vast hordes of barbarians. The Elven fleet of Finubar the Seafarer emerges from the mist to attack the Plague Fleet rather than being enveloped by mist and are driven off by Gutrot Spume’s conjured smoke tentacles that suffocate the Elven crew and the thrashing limbs of whatever resides in Spume’s ship, Rotten Beast. Spume does not partake in the Battle of Marienburg but departs for Nordland to travel along the Old Dwarf Road to Altdorf. It is not well explained in this video but the Dwarf-built sea wall is brought down when the Glottkin have one of the plague urns given to them by Archaon (who in turn received three of them from Ku’Gath) hurled via catapult around the sea wall which unleashes a moss that supernaturally grows quickly and destabilizes the sea wall greatly. This moss would later grow down the length of the River Reik. The Marienburg soldiery flees when it becomes revealed that their enemy brings plague and Mundvard’s undead erupt from within the city, not out in the marshes. The Suiddock Beast threatens to cut off Norscan reinforcements from the boats with it being perched on the Greenwolf and Mundvard himself does not ride the Suiddock Beast but remains in the outskirt marshes near the docks, which is where the Glottkin fight him (Ghurk throws him in the sea after Otto pins the vampire in place by piercing his neck with his scythe). The Reikland Irregulars meet the Glottkin and their army outside of Marienburg and are able to push back the Chaos army with their discipline but with the unnatural moss and gore on the ground the Empire army suffers uneven footing and their formation breaks up, allowing the Norscans to beat them in the chaotic close combat they so love.
@alejandrosakai1744
@alejandrosakai1744 2 жыл бұрын
As a new fan of Warhammer Fantasy from Mexico, I didn't know that it had a story about the end of the world!
@BulletBill64
@BulletBill64 2 жыл бұрын
The end times are a bit weird. Warhammer fantasy was lagging in sales behind 40k so GW overhauled the game and wrote the End Times as the story behind it. But because of the quality of writing, many fans reject this as non canon.
@Tsagia
@Tsagia 2 жыл бұрын
@@BulletBill64 And because also...Sigmarines and the trash world they made after destroying GW. They put so much emphasis on 40k that they eventually had newer generations go that way instead of the high fantasy one.
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 2 жыл бұрын
@@BulletBill64 what was so bad about the writing?
@BulletBill64
@BulletBill64 2 жыл бұрын
@@theawesomeman9821 A lot of legendary lords were forgotten about, some major factions were written off in a few sentences, Orks just went away to Cathay for reasons, Malekith was the true Phoenix king all along, just didnt stay in the fire long enough,...
@MrGforce52
@MrGforce52 2 жыл бұрын
Vampires are the paper to Nurgle's rock. Can't die of disease if you're already dead.
@thequickjoey301
@thequickjoey301 Жыл бұрын
they really did just say "his ship just floats on in and says nuh uh to any attacks and claps the entire town"
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic graphics on this one! An excellent episode to be sure.⚔
@-Azure.EXE-
@-Azure.EXE- 2 жыл бұрын
The seawall kinda just glowed green and disappeared. You what mate?
@Troupe_Master
@Troupe_Master 2 жыл бұрын
Do some lore about the Elves and Dawi
@starbreeze7249
@starbreeze7249 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the alternate history video from you previous channel makes me want an alternate End Times history instead. If only the writing of End Times was as good as this channel!
@Tsagia
@Tsagia 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine that I somehow teleport heroes and armies from specific high fantasy worlds to help fight back the Chaos,because if that happens here,then all other worlds "might fall". For example,imagine the brotherly Warcraft universe sending a huge force of Alliance and Horde expeditionary forces. Geralt,Triss,Ciri and their friends with a few thousand Nilfgaardian soldiers. Drizzt and his friends from the Forgotten Realms. Even Gandalf,Aragorn and Faramir leading a force of Gondorian knights and infantry,Rohirim,Rangers and elite elven archers. I know,it's nonsense...but having an unstoppable Chaos army that defeats everything,that's also ridiculous.
@humanrager
@humanrager 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tsagia I kinda like that idea, if only for that moment when Karl turns to them all and goes, "Now do you see just how easy you bastards had it?"
@Tsagia
@Tsagia 2 жыл бұрын
@@humanrager I loved the Fall of Altdorf. It's one of my favorite fantasy books,the author (I think it was Chris Wright?) is great. But when you know that no matter all the bravery and effort,the Chaos will win no matter what...you get depressed.
@TomatoRoll
@TomatoRoll 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe one day they will do a series on Storm of Chaos.
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tsagia which just looking at the setting just doesn’t make sense. Militarily the empire is far superior to the mortal forces of chaos and the reason chaos has any chance of winning is by dividing the empire through its cults and weakening it through infighting.
@cjnight6
@cjnight6 2 жыл бұрын
Love you videos. I watch them over and over again. Whenever i work out and get on the bike its the highlight of it. Was wondering if you could do dragon age battles if possible?
@hesamhatami1670
@hesamhatami1670 2 жыл бұрын
Thank for your this episode I will wait for more episodes
@mcbain668
@mcbain668 Жыл бұрын
End times lore is just all the defenders wake up with the iQ of 17 and derp derp their way through battles 😂
@SpacePatrollerLaser
@SpacePatrollerLaser 2 жыл бұрын
Other things you can look into are 1 Marion Zimmer Bradley's "Darkover" series from the 1960's to the 1980's 2. THE DYING EARTH. A science fantasy based on the 1951 Novel of the same name by Jack Vance. The data and chronology of which can be found in Wikipedia Two sci-fan by acclaimed Michael Moorecock 1Count Brass/Dorian Hawkmoon soties, featuring the tetrology JEWEL IN THE SKILL' 2. THE DANCERS AT THE END OF TIME series featuring AN ALIEN HEAT, Like THE DYING EARTH, this is an end-of-time scenario You mighht also do the SCP universe; a combination of Asimov, Kafka, Lovecraft and Man From UNCLE. This is spawning films and video games as well as stories and articles, involving very uniqpe things like "cognito hazards" and "info-hazards" which can kill a person just by knowing certain things. It is a world populated by interesting persons, groups and other things. I reccommend to begin with SCP-093: the Red Sea Objecti as related in THE EXPLORING series. Other names to KZbin up; The Volgun, SCP Illustrated and Dr. Cimmerian as well as The SCP items in THE EXPLORING SIERIES. In fact, they Exploring Series is very very good in it's own right, having examined Lovecraft, Final Fantasy and the Mabinogeon, from which came Fleetwood-Mac's RHIANNON
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 2 жыл бұрын
Giant skeleton demon bat. I'll probably never get into this franchise, WAY too cynical (and expensive) for me. But it's got good ideas.
@ronaldp7573
@ronaldp7573 Жыл бұрын
Chaos was always more interesting as a corruptible force than a horde of black knights who worship demons. The Reiksguard novel comes to mind as illustrating the political and personal havok that Chaos causes.
@afkaosius
@afkaosius Жыл бұрын
Im playing the Marienburg mod in TWW3 right now. Guess im heading on a business crusade to Nurgle! :D I love the videos
@coffeedrinker6011
@coffeedrinker6011 Жыл бұрын
What mod is that?
@lopezlirio4004
@lopezlirio4004 10 ай бұрын
@@coffeedrinker6011 is called SMC Marienburg on workshop
@giagarex
@giagarex 2 жыл бұрын
pls do War of the Beard
@yellowsocker
@yellowsocker Жыл бұрын
"and then the vampire lord experienced in being slippery and escaping stood there and just dodged instead of running away" "and then the competent commander just let his army run straight into a death trap because he was happy" guhhhhhhhh
@achievefear1769
@achievefear1769 2 жыл бұрын
would be awesome of yall did some of these from war of the beard !
@jasonsantos3037
@jasonsantos3037 2 жыл бұрын
It's a glory day for the plague father.
@malekiththeeternityking5433
@malekiththeeternityking5433 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for Malekith in this series
@amandag.6186
@amandag.6186 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta wait your turn spiky boy.
@maddogbasil
@maddogbasil 2 жыл бұрын
Soon Waiting for that Mongol alt history ♥️ ❤️
@markusskram4181
@markusskram4181 2 жыл бұрын
Cool vid
@ThaStrum
@ThaStrum 2 жыл бұрын
So does Glottkin fall in the End Times ?
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 2 жыл бұрын
Still can't help but feel sorry for those 3 brothers.
@ValentineCorp
@ValentineCorp Жыл бұрын
What happened to gut rot spume when his ship was sunk?
@prantoislam5529
@prantoislam5529 Жыл бұрын
not gonna lie, vampires really the mvp for this one
@MbisonBalrog
@MbisonBalrog 2 жыл бұрын
Humans should make alliance with Vampires. They super helpful against Chaos.
@mnplastic1
@mnplastic1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome videos. Where do you get information about the events?
@Sapphic_girlie
@Sapphic_girlie 2 жыл бұрын
After reading all of the Gotrek and Felix books i can't wait for them to join the storie even tho i know anything involved with the end times is a bit of a L
@shepardcommander6811
@shepardcommander6811 2 жыл бұрын
why are you mainly doing the endtimes, is there no other content to cover?
@Ghostface19976
@Ghostface19976 Жыл бұрын
I still want to see some lore for Grimgor Ironhide pls pls pls
@ragnarososo
@ragnarososo 2 жыл бұрын
I dont like End Times. But you make a great videos !
@joaquinpareja113
@joaquinpareja113 2 жыл бұрын
Dammnn it's like the chaos gods are tooo overpower and all other races are too incompetent to do something
@RidgeWalletYT
@RidgeWalletYT 2 жыл бұрын
Team Foged Ember 💯
@nogodsnomasters7669
@nogodsnomasters7669 2 жыл бұрын
I miss warhammer
@ellitho
@ellitho Жыл бұрын
At least we have WTW3.
@MisterFluffyBags
@MisterFluffyBags 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance of some Warhammer 40K stuff?
@demetriosstratis321
@demetriosstratis321 2 жыл бұрын
I really hate how badly written the End Times are, but nice video
@Badger13x
@Badger13x 2 жыл бұрын
Seems that the company just gave up on this part of their business maybe it was not making enough money, so they wanted to get rid of it to concentrate on the 40k money pot.
@matheusb.dambrowski4639
@matheusb.dambrowski4639 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there is a typo on the title lmao, DOCUMNETARY
@tomosjackson4760
@tomosjackson4760 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Teclis infuse the hero's of Order with the power of the vortex at one point? Doesn't that drive back chaos a while?
@seanallerdings8147
@seanallerdings8147 2 жыл бұрын
Teclis undoes the vortex at the center of Ulthuan which allows him to bind the winds of magic to a specific individual aka the incarnates but it sank the entire island of Ulthuan allowed Slannesh to absorb thousands of elven souls thereby increasing his/her power and without the vortex impeding the winds of magic it allowed chaos to send as many of their forces as they wanted.
@tomosjackson4760
@tomosjackson4760 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanallerdings8147 Seems like rather a short sighted action by one so allegedly wise and powerful. I didn't know this before, my knowledge of Warhammer lore is patchy, and only started soon after buying the Warhammer total war series.
@seanallerdings8147
@seanallerdings8147 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomosjackson4760 yeah, there's quite a lot of things with the end times that logically don't make a lot of sense and especially with certain character's actions and motivations. To use Teclis as an example a lot of what he does in the end times in any other form of media would make him an outright villain which is the exact opposite of what he is.
@tomosjackson4760
@tomosjackson4760 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanallerdings8147 Well to be fair to Teclis, I've always seen him as cold and calculating. Throw in desperate and I can see him cracking open the Vortex. I liked the idea of Tyrion picking up the Sword of Khaine, much as his ancestor Aenarion did when things got bad and having Teclis and Malekith team up to bring him to his senses. Again I don't have a great deal of context, and my knowledge is patchy. Idk. I just think that Teclis could have made an interesting character when you mash his personality with the role of Gandalf. He doesn't seem the kind of guy who works well with people (Though I loved his team up with Gotrek and Felix) so having him be the one who has to pull all the forces of Order together to resist chaos seems like a really interesting arc to explore.
@seanallerdings8147
@seanallerdings8147 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomosjackson4760 It would have been if Games Workshop actually went that route. As for cold and calculating let me think besides the other things during the end times he allowed his niece who was the illegitimate child of Tyrion and Alarielle to be kidnapped by Arkhan and later sacrificed so that Nagash could be resurrected. He also stole the flame of Ulric from Middenheim which led to not only the actual death of Ulric but allowed Middenheim to fall to Chaos because the flame was the only thing helping the besieged defenders out. Teclis actually is a great character in most of the lore but in the End Times Games Workshop made him a bastard.
@Loyal94
@Loyal94 2 жыл бұрын
never read warhammer except for Heldenhammer, but compared, the end times seem to be off. As if it had to be done quickly. Disappointed tbh. Great work on the video! As always, you guys are a beacon of quality content.
@smokytopboomboom
@smokytopboomboom 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are always great, but you can tell just how desperately GW was trying to dump the hemorrhaging carcass of Fantasy with how rushed all this writing seemed to be...
@GrandDukeMushroom
@GrandDukeMushroom 2 жыл бұрын
glory
@gavinsepicgaming9835
@gavinsepicgaming9835 Жыл бұрын
So, elven sea masters suck, and big dwarf wall dies to insta magic which the elves would've had, and then the vampire counts come in again and beat the chaos warrior with undead? The elite chaos warriors that did all that stuff and easily took the city? The ones that don't fear death because of their immense tankiness and the ability to like just respawn?????
@gavinsepicgaming9835
@gavinsepicgaming9835 Жыл бұрын
they just keep being so op to beat an enemy but then another enemy is so op to win and i see why everybody doesn't like the end times now
@glenipolus9731
@glenipolus9731 Жыл бұрын
Warhammer 40k! Pls common their fandom is massive. Atleast 100k viewS
@martinblake2278
@martinblake2278 9 ай бұрын
Thanks to the lazy writers, we have won a great plot armor aided super easy victory. Now our loyal fans can lay their eyes on Sigmarines and forget about the old world. - Lord of Tentacles.
@AB-gk8cs
@AB-gk8cs 2 жыл бұрын
I find your storytelling brilliant. However i do not like the Endtimes - it is until now too often too one-sided to be interesting i. m. o.
@JackiW
@JackiW Жыл бұрын
I've been just mindlessly enjoying these so far, but it really becomes apparent how stale the End Times are when the writing goes to "picked him up and threw him out of the city." How did he catch him to begin with?! It's freaking hilarious but HUHH?? Anyways, switching my mind off.
@ellitho
@ellitho Жыл бұрын
I like how the walls disappeared.
@Tsagia
@Tsagia 2 жыл бұрын
Once Games Workshop decided to end Warhammer Fantasy,one of the best and most classic fantasy worlds,no amount of bravery,tactics and heroes could stop the ridiculously empowered Chaos...I mean,where did they find armies in the hundreds of millions up in the frozen wastes?! Look at this,a ship that heals itself. The walls of Altdorf (before the siege of Altdorf),being corrupted and needing constant repairs. Endless amounts of Chaos armies that destroyed entire factions. It's ridiculous. I love the battles and sieges in the books,but their decision to destroy the world...no. I'll never accept that. We grew up with scenes and games of this fantasy world.
@michealwilson5788
@michealwilson5788 Жыл бұрын
will wizards and warriors make what if about star trek tonight yes are no
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