Tricked you! It's New Vegas and we're using Arc Welders...
@rkeykey5 күн бұрын
Phlog with 1 extra crit damage
@LordRemiem5 күн бұрын
Only fsoas fans will get this
@henrynagel71755 күн бұрын
At long last
@Sam-Willemsen5 күн бұрын
Hard r c-word within the first minute 0:31 smh
@tacoforce55 күн бұрын
my clanka.
@thataintfalco71065 күн бұрын
What a fucking clanker!
@Darkfawfulx5 күн бұрын
I quite like Clanker, though his level is the worst in BK.
@sillylilstella5 күн бұрын
please. those worthless tin cans dont deserve respect. useless pile of bolts, every clanker is.
@greekga80715 күн бұрын
What I don't understand is that if it's so offensive to them then why do they say it over and over again? He says it every morning he calls me clanka he calls the other droids clanka he calls himself clanka. All the time clanka this clanka that clanka please. This clanka clanka have you lost your mind clanka check that Twi'lek clanka you bullshittin break yourself clanka. He says it so much I don't even notice it anymore, last week he says to a Mandalorian 'can a clanka borrow a thermal detonator?' and my first thought wasn't 'by the Force he said the word, the c word' it was 'now how is a clanka gonna borrow a thermal detonator, clanka is you gonna give it back?'
@ianfan4265 күн бұрын
Anytime I come across this weapon my only thought is "ooo, free caps!" because holy balls this thing sells for way more than it should
@OldIronJohnson5 күн бұрын
Still can't figure out how a bowie knife sells for a grand. Yeah, it's a nice knife, but come on.
@J0hnzie4 күн бұрын
To be fair, it's an old world tool in seemingly good, workable condition, that holds a niche but important purpose, while being something you can fuel on a [relatively] common form of ammunition.
@garygearboy13583 күн бұрын
Facts they sell great no matter the charisma states but if builds perfect it can be decent
@10omhz722 күн бұрын
Was about to say the same thing, you're basically using a tig welder as a weapon and that's incredibly useful in a, well, post apocalypse @@J0hnzie
@JackCollins-u3p4 күн бұрын
Had a glitch on NV where just looking at an NPC with the Anti-material rifle in VATS whilst incendiary ammo was equipped, would cause them to burst into flames without aggroing. That was dope.
@craig_menear57962 күн бұрын
The true terrifying presence
@rockowlgamer6315 күн бұрын
Sounds alot like the Syringe gun for medic, a weapon that does what it needs to but no more until the crossbow comes.
@Scuzz12045 күн бұрын
Only this was a dlc weapon in the “end game” dlc, it’s entirely just surpassed by anything of note, can even get the Tesla Cannon earlier
@that_wasd_guy90654 күн бұрын
yeah it would be like that if people did get it so early on in a play through, but seeing as most get it towards then end of the New Vegas playthroughs its worthless other than good money as it sells for way more than its worth.
@tristan5.mp45 күн бұрын
FNV never ceases to amaze me to amaze me not only in terms of the story, but also gameplay depth. I’ve always been confused about arc welder’s purpose, but you managed to figured out a way of utilizing it that makes so much sense and made me realized that I’ve underestimated how thoughtful this game could be.
@holidaypenguin5 күн бұрын
The purpose is to be accommodating to all player builds. Consider these scenarios: you make this highly effective explosives-based character and jump into Lonesome Road at level 25, but you're not psychic, and you don't think to pack a ton of pulse grenades for the first area. You have this unarmed build but leave Paladin Toaster at home. Crits and armor-piercing ammo can help energy/guns users respectively but melee, unarmed and explosives-based characters would really struggle getting through the first silo if they were playing the DLC for the first time. So they "fixed" this by offering a purposefully bulky, inefficient weapon that is only useful with the bonus damage against robots and from a short range. The intention was always to just use it in the silo if you struggle piercing the armor of the sentry bots, and then sell it. Old World Blues hands you some weapons at the start. Honest Hearts provides you a variety of weapons when your caravan is attacked (although energy weapon ammo is incredibly scarce). The only DLC where they don't really give you viable options for every combat playstyle is Dead Money, and I think that is one of the reasons it is incredibly polarizing.
@randomguyblank16165 күн бұрын
@@holidaypenguin wdym with Dead Money? Other having to use guns to take care of speakers, I found that pretty much any combat style is viable, you just have to look properly or engage with crafting if you're running an explosives build.
@Scuzz12045 күн бұрын
Don’t bother really. Since you can get the Tesla Beaton variant of the Tesla cannon very quickly as well. Only thing is bots but nv only has an incredibly small handful of locations to use them in, and before you say what about OWB they’re in abundance. SURPRISE THEY GET HALVED DAMAGE FROM PULSE FOR SOME REASON
@holidaypenguin4 күн бұрын
@@randomguyblank1616 There are one or two things for each combat style, but they are not given to you right at the beginning like the other DLCs do. They only give you the holorifle early. Lonesome road is the only DLC where you can turn around and head home at the beginning, though. I'm not sure why they balanced it like the others in that regard.
@foxinabox51034 күн бұрын
@@Scuzz1204ah yes, I remember running out of energy ammo in OWB bcuz of that. So much so that I've had to pivot to a melee build and pick up the axe just to not die there. Lead based ammo is somehow more common there for some goddamn! Even though the scientists are confused about them.
@hithedestroyer40655 күн бұрын
It just occurred to me that the regular tesla cannon in the brotherhood safehouse is effectively a unique since it is the only regular one in the entire game and dlcs
@toddlaws261723 сағат бұрын
You can buy them at the sliver rush too.
@jakecastleman81325 күн бұрын
The last time I was this early to the party, I let that bastard courier 6 take an obvious scam package. Heh, what a great prank that was.
@davidhong19345 күн бұрын
I always knew Jonathan Nash was a rascal Also, that man is brutal at Caravan
@Velgrauder5 күн бұрын
New Vegas detected. I shall now cheer and clap. On a more serious note: ever thought going through Bioshock Infinite's Vox weapons? I've been craving a new "Fish seethes over something for 20 minutes" vid for a while and I feel that it would hit the trifecta of that, a new BWA, and as a small sneak peek to the main Infinite rant video.
@simonsoupshark80095 күн бұрын
oh god yeah the vox veriants SUCK
@2fortcow5 күн бұрын
@@simonsoupshark8009what? The repeater is good, and the box grenade launcher is alright too. burst gun is easily the worst gun in the game tho
@thehittite69825 күн бұрын
The nice thing about EMP damage is it ignores armor, skill scaling, perks, ammo bonuses, etc. So you can pick this up with no skill investment, jam some low power surplus cells in it, and it'll be pretty much just as good against robots.
@jordanthejq125 күн бұрын
You can also do that with the Pulse Gun, with much lower Strength requirements.
@ObIitus4 күн бұрын
@@jordanthejq12 And is hidden in the depths of the most dangerous vault in the game.
@thehittite69824 күн бұрын
@@jordanthejq12 Sure, but it's on the other side of the map, at the bottom of a hole filled with radiation and ghouls, and inside a Master locked chest. The Arc Welder is right outside Primm.
@natalie68112 күн бұрын
@@jordanthejq12You mean the one hidden in the most confusing vault in any Fallout game?
@BubbyBoy2 күн бұрын
@@jordanthejq12Im not even going to mention the golden geckos guarding the vault to the gun, lol If you're willing to hightail it to Primm for an early game advantage, you might as well just play the game normally
@PaxtheDreamer5 күн бұрын
Watching this made me remember an Energy Weapon I found in the game back when I first played it, but for the life of me I cannot remember WHAT it was. It was a one-handed energy weapon that specialized in robots and power armor, it could basically one or two-shot any enemy of that type but was next to worthless on any other enemy, and it was all I could think of watching this video as, like, the superior version of the Arc Welder. I just wish I could remember WHAT it was...
@Uomelette5 күн бұрын
Its the pulse gun that you find in vault 34's armory. Its a super niche highly underrated weapon because it melts through every robot enemy
@PaxtheDreamer5 күн бұрын
@@Uomelette Thank you!!!
@bluegem85825 күн бұрын
@@PaxtheDreamer understandable, vault 34 has lots of goodies that could be lost in the piles, kinda got swept aside on my first playthrough due to me already running assault carbine, so the markman's unique variant drew me to it instantly (plus i hadnt gotten to starting HH yet then)
@falloutlover54435 күн бұрын
The first time I played New Vegas I randomly stumbled across the Pulse Gun, and then for several more playthroughs for like two years afterwards (we didn't have internet back then) I straight up could not find that amazing weapon I had before and was seriously starting to think it didn't actually exist and I'd imagined the whole thing.
@MistaHoward2 күн бұрын
That's the Pulse Gun, significantly worse than its F2 variant but good for robots. There's a similar weapon in OWB that works against all types of enemies.
@obsidiancrow4505 күн бұрын
pro tip. instead of setting a skill to 10 set it to 9 and put that extra point in endurance so you can get an implant. also you can get away with 4 int if you're willing to hunt for skill books. also never set your strength above 7 at the start.
@shaynehughes66453 күн бұрын
Huh
@obsidiancrow4503 күн бұрын
@@shaynehughes6645 what
@Pie_Romancer2 күн бұрын
Good for min-maxing, but sometimes you wanna do a challenge run and sprint through the storyline with a certain ruleset, making your initial build important
@obsidiancrow4502 күн бұрын
@@Pie_Romancer i guess but i didnt really get that vibe from the video.
@l0sts0ul893 сағат бұрын
I shall try and remember this
@khodas10305 күн бұрын
I mean, it's not even really a weapon, it's a tool
@FerinitheBloodHusky5 күн бұрын
so is a sledgehammer, fireaxe, and crowbar (i dont remember if its in nv, its in 1)
@molassesman40665 күн бұрын
@@FerinitheBloodHuskycrowbars not But golfclubs are
@Darkwater18865 күн бұрын
EVERY weapon in history = tool
@molassesman40665 күн бұрын
@@Darkwater1886 oh.... darn i forgot about that
@demoniccheesepuff2745 күн бұрын
@@FerinitheBloodHusky based as hell using Fallout 1 as a reference for what weapons are in NV
@PistolSlinginMothMan5 күн бұрын
I forgot this weapon existed and thought was going to be about that huge electric lance I can’t remember the name of. Loved that thing, it was like a magic wand that casted gibify on people
@Sip_Dhit5 күн бұрын
The thermic lance i believe, save for that weapon is great for critical builds since its a constant damage melee weapon like the ripper or chainsaw
@june99145 күн бұрын
Always a big fan of repurposed tools used as weapons; the sky’s the limit with creativity
@Sip_Dhit5 күн бұрын
And fallout has a lot of great ones: Thermic lance, nail guns, holorifle, chainsaws, bumber swords, advertisement signs, sledgehammers, antenna, golf clubs, bear traps, dog tags, gloves, cap mines, arc welders, straight razor, iron pipes, machetes, cattle prods, pool ques, cane's, tire irons, shovels and rolling pins
@spacecatsftw3 күн бұрын
@@Sip_Dhit holorifle is more of a weapon repurposed into a weapon iirc
@Bubben246Күн бұрын
@@Sip_Dhit I feel like sledgehammers and machetes shouldn't count, as you're still using them in an intended manner - they were made to be swung at resilient-ish targets, after all.
@kleinfelter82475 күн бұрын
I actually like using this weapon for my "Bob the Destroyer" character
@june99145 күн бұрын
Tell me bob, you have destroyed so much, what is it that you have created?
@NoOne-us9os5 күн бұрын
@@june9914he does not create he only destroys
@PsychicWars5 күн бұрын
Best thing to do with the arc welder is to sell it for easy caps along with all the other junk in the first couple of rooms of LR.
@j.vermilye38162 күн бұрын
the fact that the robo scorpions have emp resistance is absolutely heinous. especially when one considers that you get the sonic emitter for free at the start of old world blues. "here's this free weapon it doesn't do shit against the second most common enemy in the dlc, have fun."
@ralonnetaph64502 күн бұрын
even with the bonus damage to robots for sentry fights, I usually find myself with a small stockpile of pulse grenades and mines I could toss at them since they just aren't a problem very often
@juggftw48685 күн бұрын
The real best use for it is surviving the lonesome road bunker on lv1, bc obviously obsidian put it there for us masochists and challenge runners
@Goji505Күн бұрын
Pretty much, I use it to help rush the basic Riot Gear at a low level.
@reloaded_gamer78445 күн бұрын
I like how this guy will always try to find literally any redeeming qualities in any weapon(except scorch shot) no matter how bad it is
@june99145 күн бұрын
Issue is that the SS has two many redeeming qualities
@MormonDude5 күн бұрын
I honestly forget that the Arc Welder even existed pff.
@Hyperiumon3 күн бұрын
Better idea for 1000% of players. Go to lonesome road and sell everything not nailed down and get about 20k caps.(pretty easy) Run to the place you steal weapons in the bathroom and buy the sprtel wood with a bunch of ammo and shred.
@Ralsiefan5 күн бұрын
For a hot second i was like wtf is this then i saw it was fallout new vegas
@QuangGR453 күн бұрын
Tbh, the moment you get your hand on the Pulse Gun, it effectively replace the Arc Welder in the function of dealing with robot enemies
@wowisthatleo5 күн бұрын
I HATE CLANKERS
@Chrisz_4895 күн бұрын
Samee
@NoOne-us9os5 күн бұрын
Damn clankers they ruined clankland
@Dom_Maretti4 күн бұрын
The Bozar is treated pretty unfairly. It's actually good for every single scenario if you use the right ammo and have the skill reqs. The main thing you need to do is get Hand Loader, and never ever use basic 556 (223 is okay for clearing trash). You need to use Match Load as your default. The Bozar's only real weakness, if you meet the requirements, is its relatively low accuracy for a scoped weapon. Match Load solves this problem. You can absolutely use the Bozar as your only weapon for an entire playthrough and never encounter any real difficulty aside from the initial difficulty of getting to the Gun Runners and having enough caps to buy the Bozar. It legitimately is an end game weapon, but you need to know the ins and outs of the game already. It's in my top 5 (another weapon which calls for 556 Match Load and becomes an endgame weapon with it is That Gun...also in my top 5).
@nokrotКүн бұрын
idk how the fuck someone actually uses energy weapons on NV, god bless your soul (literally only one of my 6-7 characters was an only energy build, and it was awful)
@l0sts0ul893 сағат бұрын
I don't remember it being that bad
@MaltSalt5 күн бұрын
idk if this is just me but i feel like making new vegas content and tf2 content is really good because a lot of new vegas fans like it but dont play the game often and i think its the same with tf2 fans. also i like both games. this video is very awesome thank you fishstickonastickgaming
@joshuakim52405 күн бұрын
From my experience, the Arc Welder exists solely to allow for Lonesome Road to be completable at low levels (starting low, anyways, since completing will have the player come out quite high level and ready to destroy everything remaining). Just out of curiosity, i once tried to see if i could do Lonesome Road from start to finish ASAP on Hard difficulty and found that most of the items are placed where they are to enable this, essentially being it's very own contained game of sorts. Arc Welder to handle the Sentry Bots who show up immediately after getting it. Red Glare to handle Blister and his group who show up immediately after getting it (as well as the scripted Marked Man wave upon picking up the weapon). Flare Gun to ward off the first Tunneler section. A crapton of claymores after beating Beast to blow up the highway Deathclaws. SMMG upon beating Blister (and the Advanced Riot Gear) to handle Bonesaw's group. Industrial Fist or Bonesaw's chainsaw to cut down the monorail Tunnelers. And then a culmination of all the high level weapons the Marked Men have been dropping to tear through to the end like the ultimate badass with a jaw-droppingly overpowered arsenal of all weapon types for whichever playstyle you want.
@Dysfunctional_Robot5 күн бұрын
watching this video makes me want to do a energy heavy weapons build now
@RioManegos5 күн бұрын
Little strange to mention rushing lonesome road for unarmed and skipping straight to OWB instead of mentioning the Industrial Fist.
@clintbeastwood51165 күн бұрын
Is it a bad weapon? Yes. Do I still use it as a crutch so I can make my way through Lonesome Road early and have 50k caps before I'm level 8? Yes.
@nothingness25705 күн бұрын
Finally my favourite new Vegas youtuber
@JazzSicaa5 күн бұрын
10:07 Bro is Joshua Graham's lost cousin, John Gorman
@Sip_Dhit5 күн бұрын
It kinda feels like the robot equivalent of the flamer with all the problems that weapon has too
@FitzzoBreh5 күн бұрын
finnaly a new bad weapon academy
@silversword4045 күн бұрын
I’ve missed this series
@rebby1313Күн бұрын
You're not allowed to say that word, my clanka.
@MarkofWisdom4 күн бұрын
I will say the arc welder actually has some uses, especially early game. If you go straight to Lonesome Road the Arc welders you can find in very good condition and lots of ammo and it helps you get through all the sentry robots in the missile base so you can get into the Hopeville area and be able to continue the DLC using weapons you get from the marked men to help continue making your way through the DLC even from low levels. The arc welder does fall off hard very quickly though, and it's best use is definitely getting past those initial sentry bots, and other than that the thing is best used for selling since it's really valuable I see most of these were covered in the video, good show
@nanyayoksay18932 күн бұрын
Video starts at 1:02
@theminecraftryno5 күн бұрын
Fish forgot you can get a industrial fist in the divide super easy for unarmed users
@_catshark5 күн бұрын
bros branching out
@somethingguy9124 күн бұрын
Honestly kinda surprised that for a weapon called the 'Arc Welder' that it doesn't ARC it's shock damage across multiple enemies. If it did something like that, it would definitely serve a niche that the Incinerator does for crowd control but more precise.
@cheeseismyreligion45083 күн бұрын
For using the arc welder to take out the sentry bots to get a better weapon you are ignoring another easier and safer way to take them out, and it’s through stealth with the Nail gun which any build can use easily, and is a very solid option for most of the DLC.
@ryanymous21384 күн бұрын
Of course we have to cover another FNV weapon and not finishing the last three bad weapons left in TF2 (Righteous Bizon, Hot Hand, and Sharpened Volcano Fragment) before that game kicks the bucket. All jokes aside, glad to see another FNV weapon after quite some time.
@flyguydev20085 күн бұрын
I can't wait for the fallout new vegas flare gun in bad weapon academy.
@thehittite69825 күн бұрын
Rapid Reload perk and you can just walk through Quarry Junction any time you want.
@henrynagel71755 күн бұрын
I’m feeling very glad weapon academy seeing this new upload
@JohnJohn-r4l5 күн бұрын
HE UPLOADED LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
@wiiblewobble2 күн бұрын
That’s wild, I just started lonesome road again today.
@ramblingsunglassesguy5 күн бұрын
The arc welder in Starfield is somewhat alright, I don't remember if I've used the New Vegas one but I know with the Starfield one it sounds almost the exact same as this game, but at least there it has a way to boost your damage with the laser and heavy weapons skill, and I think it increases in range with the targeting skill, though I don't really use it much.
@Zorothegallade-rpg3 күн бұрын
What's going to be next, Winter Blast? Ebony Blade? Fruit Cake?
@the_numb_skull5 күн бұрын
Holy shit earliest I’ve caught a video!
@vincentthe1st2 күн бұрын
This despicable lad drops the robo hard r within the first 30 seconds of the video
@7nthsense4 күн бұрын
Would love to see more fallout content from you
@someonestolemyname4 күн бұрын
I restarted new vegas a while ago with a speech build and when I finally got to try beating lonesome road I was kinda stuck before the 2 sentry bots before the silo exits because I didn't know you can retarget the turrets. I tried to rush in with arc welder seeing it has bonus against robots, only to find weapon binding ritual + love and hate I got right out of goodsprings leaving me much better off.
@thr333stars5 күн бұрын
I have a suggestion for future BWA game: Dead Space. Probably the third one mostly because of sheer variety of possible weapons you can craft. This might be too niche (even though it's a EA game) but also i would really like that. And if you haven't played the games, why not do it on stream. If BWA is out of the question, at least you could check them out on your own.
@thegeneralscall3 күн бұрын
The arc welder crawled so that others could run.
@Buffalen5 күн бұрын
Not even a minute in and he's dropping the hard r
@MrCheese4cake4 күн бұрын
Expecting a magic the gathering episode soon.
@Scuzz12044 күн бұрын
Heads up ALL the OWB robots have a passive hardened effect that halves the damage of pulse weapons. Not just the Roboscorpions so it still ain’t that good especially since close range
@simonsoupshark80095 күн бұрын
this and the nailgun are two weapons i litterarly never use
@doombox12114 күн бұрын
Used it this play through, helps when low level and the Sentry Bots in Hopeville are tough Not much use after though
@pardontheopinion86795 күн бұрын
I hope you do another vegas skill personality run. poindexter was epic
@brakionthegenesismind51923 күн бұрын
Bro violated that mr.handy
@colarowlet67755 күн бұрын
Love these non-TF2 videos.
@013wolfwarrior5 күн бұрын
Remember when I made my first energy build run, I was excited to get this, I thought maybe it sucked because I didnt have the skills and prks for it, and then I tried it... and was dissapointed
@theplaguegamer62165 күн бұрын
10:06 i have a funny story with the incinerator, i was playing the russian badgers lord death build and i had a few incinerators and i decides to clear out the deathclaw den, i killed the alpha deathclaws, from outside the render range, with 2 incinerators from max durability to broken in 10 minutes.
@aveage-brush-player5 күн бұрын
i mean if you for SOME REASON DONT WANT A COMPLETELY BROKEN EARLY GAME HARD CARY ENERGY WEPON(aka q-35 mater modulator) than i suppose this is fine enough IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE shure its ok
@thunderstudent5 күн бұрын
We need TF2 weapons mods for Fallout : New Vegas
@Demilich23Күн бұрын
make it deal lightning DoT for eight seconds
@phoenixvance66425 күн бұрын
He used the hard R cl*nker im shaking rn
@elmanu_6058 сағат бұрын
its only worth to repair my weapons
@SpicedRibs5 күн бұрын
love ya stick
@jerrysandoval20015 күн бұрын
FALLOUT MENTIONED FALLOUT MENTIONED
@purplehaze23585 күн бұрын
Why do robot enemies disintegrate after killing/destroying them with the arc welder?
@OldWorldFool4 күн бұрын
It looks cool.
@PeaceInCaprice5 күн бұрын
To follow up on my comment from BlueSky, the weapon was in fact bad.
@Nightmareof945 күн бұрын
Not a bad weapon at all it served me well
@handsomeivan19805 күн бұрын
Unlike the bozar, this thing won’t kill very well Shame it looks cool asf too
@Howthegodskill5 күн бұрын
a fellow vanilla NV enjoyer
@Ben_of_Milam_Music4 күн бұрын
Every play Borderlands? There's PLENTY of bad legendary and unique weapons you could cover lmao The Eridian weapons from Borderlands 1 immediately spring to mind, as does the Bane from Borderlands 2
@sweetypuss3 күн бұрын
the latter doesn't count because it's a joke weapon
@Ben_of_Milam_Music3 күн бұрын
@@sweetypuss it's still bad, and it's still a weapon lol
@some_body_else36365 күн бұрын
this isn't the sharpened volcano fragment...
@Mrmeme-12222 күн бұрын
YOOO IT'S FALLOUT NEW VEGAS
@HowlingComet4502 күн бұрын
electric flamer electric flamer electric flamer
@ladeandix74515 күн бұрын
I have tried to use this thing because I love energy weapons. But only being effective against robots sucks. I could kill anything ten times faster with a Gatling Laser.
@PepinuU15 күн бұрын
You could make a Fallout 76 live some day
@tugazu3 күн бұрын
Aww man no mention of the camarader-E perk :(
@demi-femme48215 күн бұрын
FishStickOnAStick said Clamka with the hard R! Comment "Roger Roger" if you support Droid rights!
@LoneWolf-kw3ol5 күн бұрын
Hmm i wonder how he found out this weapon was bad? Still waiting for the Fllout NV as the Medic run (i love all your content im not trying to be mean)
@mrstudent91255 күн бұрын
I only use this weapon as source of caps in early game.
@droppedcroissant42913 күн бұрын
Sorry man but I only use Big Boomer or Dinner Bell to clear out those brotherhood of crap
@rem_trash_5125 күн бұрын
how about an episode on the Chinese Pistols from Fallout 3?
@manavmarri7805 күн бұрын
Would be an overpowered weapon in mvm
@thecommenter904 күн бұрын
It isn't the worst weapon in NV. Golden gloves or C-finder is worse, debatabley.
@KJ-ud9uf5 күн бұрын
I think the only time i used the arc welder was on my fnv run where i did lonesome road at level 1
@tiredcat4160Күн бұрын
i feel like you should have done an episode about "the nailgun" because this is the worst gun i ever used/seen
@anidiot48014 күн бұрын
Why is it that every time there’s a gun that fires lightning it ends up sucking? Why would Palpatine lie to me???