Fallout's Lost & Forgotten Factions (Van Buren) | Van Buren Fallout 3 Lore Non-Canon

[@WiseFish]

Slight correction, the scientists play a big part in Van Buren and I’ll be exploring what happens in the Boulder Dome within a future video. Apart from that I hope you enjoyed it!

[@wiwysova]

Here's another correction, the Blackfoot tribe didn't inspire Caesars legion, Caesars legion was already in the game, still taking slaves. You're welcome.

[@topcat59]

At least the whole stealth boy situation was carried over to new Vegas but instead of the brotherhood it was the super mutants that was dealing with this issue.😺

[@WiseFish]

Oh yeah of course!! I forgot about that, damn I should have included that

[@crimzenwoffinden9973]

​@@WiseFish schizophrenic soldiers in power armor whhhhaaaaaaaat!?

[@leonweskeradac8239]

Yeah, it makes sense for NightKin to have it cause of the strong connection to the master and constant use of stealth boys even when not in combat. Though l could see sense in bad stealth boys. It has been 200 years, things wouldn’t work properly if exposed to time

[@jackpfefferkorn3734]

Fun fact: the gun that New Vegas' Anti-Materiel rifle is based on is called the Hecate. Just an interesting coincidence with the name of the character from Van Buren

[@rustyshackleford3917]

It’s so cool to see a lot of these factions that didn’t get to see the light of day be playable nations in HOI4’s OWB mod

[@callanbarclay1248]

WiseFish the biggest and most charming fallout lore nerd

[@WiseFish]

Charming? Well thank you very much!

[@callanbarclay1248]

Yeah charming and nerdy when you’re a expert at lore you are those two things my friend

[@ThiccBoiJohnny]

Oxhorn is bussin' too

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Sounds like when Obsidon has tie and Bethesda the will... This would make for a great new vegas prequel.

[@leonweskeradac8239]

I like how they expand simple raider groups. Real want to see these fractions implemented in game

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

Definitely do all the lore weapons etc. it’s basically an alternative history!

[@GLASSMOSCOWANDBEIJING]

I just noticed that you dropped a new video and my expression was literally like that meme of 2 soyjacks just pointing at a thing. Keep em coming bro, especially fallout ones

[@Sergio-ep4hq]

Would you kindly make a brotherhood and Cesar legion fallow up :)

[@ghostplays2766]

Great video, as always. Can I suggest you take a look at Fallout-themed mod called Old World Blues for the game Hearts of Iron IV? It adds a absurd amount of factions, many of which have fantastic lore. Love your content!

[@RobotWithHumanHair.]

I was just thinking about this mod when I clicked on this video. The mod uses lore from every fallout game released or canceled so they used lots of lore from van buren. With how well done the mod is I think he’d enjoy it lots.

[@mappingshaman5280]

That mod even uses content from obscure cancelled games almost nobody knows about like fallout extreme

[@doomshill110]

We were robbed this game would’ve been so neat

[@Cothfotmeoo]

Awesome job with this vid. Some pretty understandable gangs along with some really crazy ones. Those Daughters of Hecate and Skaven-Pickers were wild. XD Well played!

[@avr3445]

Please more Van Buren content! This is great!

[@tinmen5943]

Well get to see these factions again but they'll be different

[@whimsy0451]

Always look forward to a video from WiseFish. Splendid!

[@101mckraken]

Luv these cut content videos I remember when this game was canceled and remember being pretty disappointed

[@dimitriofthedon3917]

Love ya vids mate, made this rainy night better lad

[@WiseFish]

Happy to hear that dude and thank you! Have a good one

[@geoxev9423]

Imagine you're a traveler in the Wasteland. You have to go through Denver but you are allergic to dogs.😂

[@grumpyoldcat8302]

I REALLY would love a video covering Hecate and the Daughters of Hecate in detail!!!!! I’ve always thought Hecate in particular was such an interesting character, and her connection to the nursery certainly would have made her quite an important character in the overarching story of Interplay’s planned Fallout 3 and Fallout 4, like Caesar’s Legion. Though, unlike the legion, Hecate didn’t make any sort of appearance in Fallout: New Vegas. You could argue Ulysses is inspired by her, but their planned stories differ in a lot of important ways.

[@matthewanderson9754]

Well, I'm done with this and I'm going into the playlist again, because your content is so good!!! Keep it up man!!!😁

[@cupguy2555]

I kinda wish interplay only did fallout not other games if they did they wouldn’t have gone bankrupt and van buren would have come out but I hope modders or other designers would bring this game back, I find the main plot interesting but I hope it has no time limit to end the game like the original fallout to find the water chip. Thanks for making this video and keep up the good work

[@madness1931]

From what I understand, it's more mismanagement, than the games developed (and published). The folks running the company did a poor job. Mismanaged projects, which created delays, which made budget issues, which led to money borrowing, which led to other companies trying to have their say... it's all one big mess. While they were trying to put out fires, more were popping up, like the various legal issues, which spanned years.

[@Jesion-kv9tu]

It's those other games that helped Interplay stay afloat. The success of Baldur's Gate alone probably delayed the bankruptcy by a couple years

[@origintrackz5235]

@@Jesion-kv9tu Exactly!

[@bradyhere2427]

Didn't the Vipers become the Hounds of Hectate and not the Jackals ? I thought the Jackals were attempting to break into the Boulder Dome

[@bradyhere2427]

Also pretty sure the Vipers where never cannibalistic. You may have gotten them mixed up. Other than that great video love your stuff

[@colddaze6680]

@@bradyhere2427 true , Vipers are snake - viper worshippers. Jackals are the cannibals.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Wow what a fail

[@grumpybollox7949]

amazing video! love it

[@akramgimmini8165]

Good Content as always 👏 👌

[@TobiIsAGoodBoy1]

i am a bit saddened that F76 didn't introduce at the time the largest raider group known the viper gang who killed a Maxon using mutated toxins. Their need for tech an revenge on the continent spanning raiders is what fueled the brotherhood to march west. new Vegas has the only in game representation as a small remaining group huddled at a hole in the wall near the train tracks leading out of Nipton (they got some "traps" set up as traffic cones with land mines under them)

[@mappingshaman5280]

A: The vipers are only west coast, they originate in vault 15, it makes no sense for them to be in west Virginia. B: Those viper ambushers aren't the only vipers in fallout new vegas. C: the brotherhood of steel was not "forced west by the vipers." The brotherhood of steel started in mariposa military base, which is in central california. They marched south and populated lost hills bunker. Then Roger maxson died, several years later maxson II his son, led an expedition against the vipers where he was killed.

[@TobiIsAGoodBoy1]

@@mappingshaman5280 ah I was pretty sure they killed an early maxon (like the 3rd or something making it a mid west / east kill ) but could be wrong been retcons an abandoned lore.

[@mappingshaman5280]

@@TobiIsAGoodBoy1 There was no mid west or east coast BOS at that time, except for the fallout 76 BOS which has nothing to do with the west coast BOS and is really just bethesda copy pasting their marketable assets. The entire BOS was in california, specifically lost hills, right next to the hub. If you play fallout 1 or even new vegas you'd understand it all.

[@Salt-Upon-Woundss]

I feel like Van Buren could have easily been one of those legendary games that stands alongside the original Deus Ex and VTM Bloodlines.

[@MrHathaway1337]

Thank you for a lore video without g-fuel spam.

[@greendude7650]

Damn I would have loved all of those tribes in fallout 3 or NV shame.

[@feralprocessor9853]

Right off the bat, two guys in front of a train cart.

[@brothers_of_nod]

I still wish to see someone give something of a complete van buren, I know it would not be the same, but something to enjoy.

[@cassiemoyles4177]

I hope the circle of steel gets to be in a game at one point. It would be the first time that we would for sure have humans with similar symptoms to nightkin

[@cassiemoyles4177]

Also the daughters of Hecate, thats fucking awesome as a concept honestly. Scary midwives who steal your children and have the atrongest people, is a terrifying and I love it.

[@gunproofgrandad]

Daughters if Hecate are a great idea. Could be carried over into a future fallout. Make her someone who was conquered by the legion and made some high priestess due to being naturally skilled as a midwife but she betrayed Caesar and escaped and then started doing what she does with the tribes to build her own army and that’s the reason why Caesar’s legion has such a low opinion of women.

[@SuedDuke]

Which legion mod are you using in the footage?

[@blacksuite1]

New Canon or New Canaan?

[@colddaze6680]

Had to mean New Canaan. He just pronounced it wrong.

[@davidponder1654]

There has to be a playable version of fallout 3 somewhere right? I need it. I would pay 5x more for that than whatever bethesda comes up with next.

[@Matt-md5yt]

sweet

[@bigj1905]

Theirs a mod for Hoi4 called Old World Blues that’s pretty much a Fallout mod for the game. The mod has all of these factions located in northern Arizona/Colorado. I had no idea they were inspired from Van Buren

[@gloomyjz]

12:35 what mod is the bunker from?

[@MDNGTSHEP]

Is there any chance this could come back?

[@origintrackz5235]

No, not with Bethesda in control of the IP...

[@madness1931]

I wonder if the Chinese armour has the same side-effects as the StealthBoy. I honestly wish we got to see another region, that's not the US, and see how that country tried to deal with the Fallout. Would Vault-Tec branch out into Europe? What if there was a British version of the Enclave (that were Royalists)? What if there was a faction that had children leaders, because they needed a very short person, to play the role of Napoleon? What is the Communistic Vault-Tec variant, in China? There is so much untapped potential in the Fallout IP, I wish we got to see more of it... Just not by Bethesda.

[@theoneandonlydetraebean8286]

It was mentioned that the Chinese had mastered stealth technology to the point they successfully parked entire submarines along the immediate vicinity the coasts such as the submarine crew that founded the Shi in San Francisco's Chinatown and Captain Zhao's submarine along Boston. If sub crews were expected to stay cloaked for anywhere from several weeks to several years ,the Chinese would have to make sure the stealth technology did not affect the user's mental state. The fact Zhao was able to maintain sanity for 2 centuries in one of these subs meant that their stealth tech did not suffer from the same side effects that the American stealth boys technology did.

[@madness1931]

@@theoneandonlydetraebean8286 Sure, but there is one difference. A sub is a vehicle. It can fit much larger tech, and with far better shielding. Contrast that to the Stealth Suits. They're portable, maneuverable, light, and last a long time.

[@Salt_and_Peroxide]

aw yep

[@notoriousp.o.g6773]

if they ever make another fallout game, I hope they used this lore in some way

[@SUPERFunStick]

It's kind of mind blowing to me how incredibly well games from 07/08 have aged visually and mechanically. Fallout 3 looks graphically about 1/2 as good as fo4 and has nearly identical controls. Dark souls, dead space, Oblivion (especially if you bought that prem-o horse armor!) *Chef kisses* seriously, gaming on the Xbox 360 and (sorta) PS3 machines was a brand new, mine boggling chapter of gaming history, and the most amazing part of that generation was the fact that somehow, graphics continued to get better and better until 2014/15 when late gen, and cross gen games could somehow still keep pace in basically all aspects with Xbox one and PS4 games. That whole generation from 05 to 2015 was the most important generation for gaming since the switch from NES to SNES and Genesis. I worry regularly that we'll never experience another pivotal era in gaming ever again, because now we have literally CGI quality gameplay and really, how much further and quickly can games realistically go from here? I think we're in a kind of scary plateau with hardware and software capabilities, giving us less and less noticeable returns graphically and exciting new kinds of code/game mechanics, and it'll take something like the fabled singularity event. I kind of with I could go back to 2003 and watch the exploring of Xbox to Xbox 360 all over again with the benefit of hindsight.

[@alanwatts6025]

This sounds like a better game than any of the Bethesda games (new vegas is not a Bethesda game)

[@elvangulley3210]

The real and only fallout 3

[@therealamon]

At least new vegas used lots of content and ideas from van buren we could only pray obsidian makes another fallout or in a perfect world bethesda makes a game on par or better than obsidian could (may never happen)

[@AK_AUDITS]

FALLOUT THE FRONTIER

[@wiwysova]

Literally no one helped the powder gangers against good springs

[@humanwolf1984]

Hi Wisefish how are you. 😇

[@FlipFoneFrank]

Better than fallout 3

[@AK_AUDITS]

NEW CALIFONRIA

[@feralprocessor9853]

SPACE!!!

[@Evantrop]

Its not about making good games.companions dont give a shit about that. Its about making money.

[@Undeadaccount]

Ceasar a man? Ha more like god among men! 😂

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

:KD

[@funrun07haan50]

Wish we had legion in f76 bc damm what would i love to nuke them every day

[@meatycitadel]

the followers of the apocalypse hasnt even been formed yet...

[@wiwysova]

More canon than fallout 4 and 76

[@Bluis5445]

Non cannon, don’t care.

[@theeternal2734]

There's Always One Asshole At The Bottom Of The Comment Section

[@wiwysova]

Wow "quality content" right here