Whoops! 57:04. We did not mean to say Kartana in that list of Pokemon that Amoongus helped deal with. Kartana would be immune to Rage powder and Spore due to being grass type.
@rabeechowdhury2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@BadCandyStudios2 жыл бұрын
You made a single uncorrected mistake in this hour-long video? Unsubscribed; I can’t believe the lack of factual integrity on this channel. /j
@holdinmcgroin86392 жыл бұрын
amogus
@izsokok63562 жыл бұрын
I find it a bit funny that you did gastly and haunter before Ferrothorn
@nok47992 жыл бұрын
🚨📮❗🎴
@ExtremeAce2 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn with Rain teams is literally the embodiment of "aid me and I'll be your greatest friend, oppose me and I'll be your worst enemy."
@redtheraichu39382 жыл бұрын
With sun teams it be like: "Idc what you do, just stay the hell away from me"
@islamandchristianityhater57132 жыл бұрын
@@redtheraichu3938 💀
@AnitaNapkin962 жыл бұрын
@@redtheraichu3938 o
@typhlosion78722 жыл бұрын
@@redtheraichu3938 Yet Forretress was used on sun when it was viable in gen 5, but Ferro wasn't. Probably because slow Volt Switch paired with Rapid Spin if I had to guess. Imagine if Ferro had both of those
@zimbo2634life2 жыл бұрын
@@AnitaNapkin96 bh
@UGMD2 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn running hidden power fire is so funny. “I’m done taking this, it’s my turn!”
@yof22102 жыл бұрын
Ferro: "Hey you're grass steel too right Kartana?" Kartana: "Yeah why?" Ferro slotting in HP fire: "Oh no reason"
@IgnitedQuils2 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn was the Swampert of Gens 5-8
@ubermaster12 жыл бұрын
@@yof2210 Kartana: “What do you got there? Ferrothorn with HP Fire: “…a smoothie”
@autobotstarscream7652 жыл бұрын
@@ubermaster1 A Molotov smoothie.
@gastrodonenjoyer9992 жыл бұрын
Kartana: expects a free switch on Ferro Ferro with HP Fire: *laughs in irony*
@SYKim_942 жыл бұрын
When your video is longer than Arceus’s, with “great” in the title, and a long time fan-requested, you know you’re one of the best.
@Entelarmer2 жыл бұрын
I mean, VGC and being available in more than one tier, so yeah. Of course it is longer. ;)
@jazzyj53742 жыл бұрын
The only thing that’s more requested is Lando
@azurai39342 жыл бұрын
I am very concerned now about Landorus, that might actually be a standard 90 minute movie.
@Lightspeeds2 жыл бұрын
Or one of the worst.
@redkun52 жыл бұрын
*worst
@MasterTP102 жыл бұрын
A testament to how great Ferrothorn is comes directly from the length of the video. This is, at the time of writing, the third longest episode to date, behind only the Charizard and Chansey/Blissey videos. However, both Charizard and Chansey have been around since Gen 1, Blissey's been around since Gen 2, and Charizard had gotten two Mega Evolutions and a Gigantamax form. Ferrothorn, meanwhile, has been around for half as long and has had no alternate forms discussed, but its history in the metagame is so profound, it demanded an hour-long video itself. It's just that good.
@skeetermania32022 жыл бұрын
Y’ello! Knew you were already a fan of this channel.
@richi52912 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Blissey and Chansey were both discussed each gen, while Ferro is just one mon
@OdaSwifteye2 жыл бұрын
Yeah if the video is less than 15 minutes why even bother making a video about it?
@fungalPS2 жыл бұрын
@@richi5291 honestly what's crazy is that ferroseed is a great mon in lc and also ru I believe
@ashikjaman19402 жыл бұрын
Virgin Charizard vs Chad Ferrothorn
@Grandflea022 жыл бұрын
*Ferrothorn at a gen 5 job interview* OU: So what are you bringing to the metagame? Ferrothorn: *Yes.*
@tan4352 жыл бұрын
More like, Y E S
@vasimbelim Жыл бұрын
Gf office : so what you can do Ferrathorn : hmmm ... yeh
@grantnesselroad7569 Жыл бұрын
OU: So what are you bringing to the metagame? Ferrothorn: Silly, silly fool… I AM the metagame.
@witherslayer8673 Жыл бұрын
@@grantnesselroad7569 horrificaly true
@ryaku56 ай бұрын
More like, "Myself, because that's all I need."
@JosephHk7432 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how ferrothorn just keeps getting better even with powercreep and gameplay changes over time.
@HannibalKantter2 жыл бұрын
Walls such as Ferrothorn, Toxapex and Chansey/Blissey get obviously better each gen as new powerful offensive Pokémon are released and rise to the top. Most of them just become another reason to use said walls to, well, wall them, and thus they keep rising in popularity
@oluwaseyiadekunle97612 жыл бұрын
Will the new power of mons ruin competitive pokemon?
@WingedFish662 жыл бұрын
@@oluwaseyiadekunle9761 No, because Smogon's eternal rule of thumb is to just ban anything that threatens stall too much
@The_Vanni2 жыл бұрын
@@WingedFish66 they ban anything that ENCOURAGES stall as a top tier strategy, such as a hyper aggressive meta like early gen 8.
@cyrt28892 жыл бұрын
similar to Ho-Oh
@thispersoncommented2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Ferrothorn has only been around for 4 generations and this video is still over an hour long is absolutely hysterical
@bmac42 жыл бұрын
Just wait until Landorus comes out. 2 forms and quite possibly the single most played Pokemon in competitive history, topping OU usage charts 4 generations in a row and being on every team in the top 8 of a worlds.
@williamhuynh8692 жыл бұрын
@@bmac4 Maractus sent it back to RBY so lets get that 7 hour long vid
@sephikong83232 жыл бұрын
@@bmac4 I think the title of most played Pokemon in competitive history is fiercely fought for against Tyranitar, and the two definitely have arguments (but the later generations where Lando is more popular are also more played, but if we even out the generations, I think Ttar wins
@gio92552 жыл бұрын
Landorus could easily be a 2 hours video if you had to dissect the success of both forms. I do not envy the day FalseSwipeGaming covers them both.
@thispersoncommented2 жыл бұрын
@@bmac4 Oh yea Landorus…… Forgot about that one. I think he might have to do a separate video for each form because otherwise it would be a two hour long video which no one would watch and he’d probably have to spend like a month making it. Also I honestly don’t it’s high on his priority list because I think at this point pretty much everyone knows that landorus is insane in competitive and knows why.
@PKR0CKIN2 жыл бұрын
Weird coincidental fact: As a little kid, I drew a fake Pokémon that I wanted as a grass starter I wanted a cocklebur-those spiny sticky things that you sometimes get in your shoes-but made of metal and robot looking, because I wanted a mean looking grass type Gen 5 got announced and I avoided spoilers I made it to chargestone cave and when I found that a durian steel grass type that likes to stick to walls of caves was not only a thing, but was seen as one of the best Pokémon by a lot of people, I had found my favorite Pokémon to exist Every time I replay BW, I add Ferrothorn Rambling a lot, but I wanted to share
@contraryshinysnivy2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@zaidkapadia68242 жыл бұрын
That's so adorable
@CigaretteCrayon2 жыл бұрын
I made a reptilian ankylosaur for a fire/poison starter that was kind of like a Camerupt/Salazzle. It would have been slower and bulky like a Blastoise but a special tank like Camerupt or Turtonator.
@Lunar1314_2 жыл бұрын
that's pretty fun
@zaidkapadia68242 жыл бұрын
@@JohnJonesBilly I'm dying to figure out why you're such a kid
@VerbalLearning2 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn is that guy every sport has that always shows up to practice/training, never skips a day, always signs up for any and all competitions and always does well. He might not win or even be the favorite at any given tournament, but anybody who has any aspirations or dreams of being the best knows they have to beat this guy to stand a chance. This guy doesn't do anything fancy or surprising, it's just raw fundamentals, a healthy approach to life and the game, and a never say die attitude. If you ask casual spectators who their favorite competitor is, not many people are going to mention this guy because he might be kinda boring, but anybody who knows a lot about the sport, either because they've been around for a long time or because they've competed themselves, all say that they respect the hell out of him for his consistency and commitment and they always know he'll put up a good fight and whenever there's a conversation among experts of who's the GOAT, he'll always be mentioned, not because he necessarily has a ton of trophies to his name, though he does have plenty, but because he's always there, at or near the top of the game, no matter what.
@BarcelonaBlitzer2 жыл бұрын
Well said man
@jenisia36002 жыл бұрын
Pin this Fukin Comment!!!!
@lacanm15542 жыл бұрын
the tim duncan of pokemon
@blastfurnace86442 жыл бұрын
Mr. Sandman ( Punch-Out character, difficult fight, didn't cheat even once ) of Pokemon.
@kalamander85632 жыл бұрын
So it's Rudy?
@grunkleg.29342 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn can do everything so well, I'm surprised it doesn't have a move that does your taxes for you
@Fireluigi12252 жыл бұрын
Well if you use it right it can help pay your taxes
@skeetermania32022 жыл бұрын
One thing it can’t do well is make for an ESP (Emotional Support Pokémon). You’ll just be asking for a trip to the ER.
@jaretco64232 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised it didn't get Spiky Shield for his withdraw.
@peepoweird2 жыл бұрын
Just Power Whip the IRS office.
@Aeg7zz2 жыл бұрын
@@Fireluigi1225 Filethorn
@SenWarchief2 жыл бұрын
I expected no less than an hour for this absolute gamechanger of a tank!
@markkart2 жыл бұрын
not long enough
@eliashornwall85462 жыл бұрын
@Depp. *it’s
@eliashornwall85462 жыл бұрын
@Depp. Also, you forgot a comma.
@camillalapolentona844802 жыл бұрын
@@eliashornwall8546 That's a bot, but i think that sentence makes sense even without the comma
@eliashornwall85462 жыл бұрын
@@camillalapolentona84480 Yeah, you're right. Sometimes I just get this compulsive need to correct people's grammar mistakes. This being a bot, and the sentence working both with and without a comma makes it look pretty bad though, I'll admit. Still, I just really feel off people get things like it's, and its wrong, you know. It just doesn't sit right with me. Edit: I forgot a comma...
@konyuna47562 жыл бұрын
The fact that Ferrothorn was usually followed by the opponent bringing in their own Ferrothorn and then the battle turning into them just unga bunga-ing at each other is honestly kind of hilarious. And that speaking like a caveman gag at 41:48 was funny.
@mauroperez28482 жыл бұрын
It's like those rock-em sock-em robots that just punch each other, but with iron durians.
@Tyeus222 жыл бұрын
Like Goats just butting heads at each other over and over 😂
@jaretco64232 жыл бұрын
It's like an Metapod vs. an Metapod.
@12jswilson2 жыл бұрын
Basically the same with Pex. Smogon OU's long-term end game is Clef + Pex + Corv + Ferro + 2 future annoying defensive mons that all just stare at each other until the heat death of the universe.
@konyuna47562 жыл бұрын
@@12jswilson You know what they say: "Smogon loves stall.".
@generalsynnacle232 жыл бұрын
Contrary Serperior, Ferrothorn, and Amoongus are the reasons why I believe the Gen 5 developers loved grass types.
@autobotstarscream7652 жыл бұрын
Gen 5 was our big chance for a Grass-type Champion...
@skeetermania32022 жыл бұрын
Should also add Whimsicott.
@skullerclawerbandicoot79662 жыл бұрын
@@jaretco6423 I think Gen 7 made Bugs and Grasses better too. Tons of great Bug mons, Leech Lifes actually good, etc. Grass types being immune to powder moves, good grass mons (Lurantis comes to mind), etc.
@joseruizdiaz96222 жыл бұрын
They made sure everyone touched grass 🥦🍀
@lacanm15542 жыл бұрын
@@jaretco6423 steel was already great
@sensibledog092 жыл бұрын
Just note,ferrothorn only has a base stat total of 489,if they wanted to,they could give this an evolution
@Rarest262 жыл бұрын
The world isn’t ready for EVIOLITE FERROTHORN
@Rowletswag2 жыл бұрын
Ok I'm scared now it could become the best pokemon in ubers not to mention the evolite on ferrothorn
@vyktorehon5995 Жыл бұрын
WTF HAVE YOU DONE!!!!
@kehana2908 Жыл бұрын
everyones talking about eviolite ferro but no one's talkign about just how busted ferro's evolution could be if it had literally any decent attacking stat
@vyktorehon5995 Жыл бұрын
@@kehana2908 CB ferrothorn tech
@ZorotheGallade2 жыл бұрын
The entire OU tier: "You are the metagame! Whatever comes through those gates, you stand your ground!" (Ferrothorn with Body Press appears) "RUN!"
@WaverTR Жыл бұрын
Gen 8 ferro be like: The meta game: So are you stall or offensive? Ferro: *y e s*
@TheRedGauntlet2 жыл бұрын
I love mons like Ferrothorn that aren't legendaries or semi-legendaries and yet are this powerfull. You find it in a cave like other normal mons.
@Materialist392 жыл бұрын
I feel Ferro has a very important place in the game, kind of like a brake check for teams that lean too hard into certain archetypes and encourages Balanced teams overall. Esp in Gen 7 where it was both the counter to and essential anchor of powerful rain teams.
@GrowingDownUnder2 жыл бұрын
it's not powerful, it's just bulky and annoying stall mon
@Strublon2 жыл бұрын
I read "I love moms like Ferrothorn" at first...
@Kambyday2 жыл бұрын
Mons like these become a nuisance when you come across them 10 times in row and lose
@GrowingDownUnder2 жыл бұрын
@@Kambyday forces you to have a fire & fighting coverage on your teams. But nobody want to use fighting moves on ferrothorn because barbs unless it's aura sphere or unless you have protective pads
@ChaoticMeatballTV2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you guys hadn't already done this one, insane that it's over an hour. Fantastic work on the research on this as always!
@PhantomAarantula2 жыл бұрын
Can't be too surprised. This Pokémon was specifically banned from being voted on for a long while now. But the longer they wait to cover it, the more content we get
@yukeenakamura13982 жыл бұрын
The greatness of this Pokémon is the exact reason to why they haven’t covered it already. The videos an hour long cuz there’s so much to cover lol
@aster65932 жыл бұрын
Plus with how impactful it has been throughout all of Smogon singles and VGC doubles during SwSh's life, getting to it now means more data to evaluate its impact on both formats, even after the release of 2 expansions and the multitudes of Smogon bannings and VGC season changes. Both formats are still shifting. Any sooner would feel premature, especially with its VGC usage dropping, however slowly that may be
@snuffysam2 жыл бұрын
I’m fairly certain they’ve spent actual years working on this video in the background… they needed to do it justice, this dude is one of the most important Pokémon in the history of competitive
@raymariopokenic15612 жыл бұрын
@@snuffysam nah it took like 2 months at most, remember they already made 2 vids of over an hour and other long vids loke deoxys and scizor, so... no
@lanxeared2 жыл бұрын
It's finally here. One of the greatest walls Pokemon had ever seen.
@Ego-Fiend2 жыл бұрын
One of the best competitive Pokemon imo
@cutecombo84962 жыл бұрын
Goes to show that steel really is up there with fairy as the best type
@kensuno_17402 жыл бұрын
One of the generic staple of hazard setters as well
@DivineZxro2 жыл бұрын
Finally bro he did it
@UncleJrueForTue2 жыл бұрын
Pokemon programmed a wall and made me pay $60 for it... But I'll keep paying that $60 for it though.
@SpaceDetectiveTravis2 жыл бұрын
8:10 - So basically, Ferrothorn vs Ferrothorn was the Gen 5 equivalent of Metapod vs Metapod
@rokkfel49992 жыл бұрын
Essentially yes but like with slapping in the background
@TheCulturedMan342 жыл бұрын
Without hearing "oh my" when someone says how hard their metapod is
@june9914 Жыл бұрын
Two top it off, ferrothorn does learn harden XD
@sephondranzer Жыл бұрын
Metapod vs. Metapod takes me back a minute! God that episode sucked!!
@Zethoro2 жыл бұрын
38:35 Absolutely terrifying levels of bulk. My jaw dropped upon seeing Ferro live that, even resisted.
@usernametaken0173 ай бұрын
Nah, I'd win.
@Magic_Ice2 жыл бұрын
Finally, we get the Ferrothorn documentary. Unfortunately I clicked on the video and took Iron Barbs damage
@eliyaskiya2 жыл бұрын
It was worse for me, mine happened to be holding Rocky Helmet...
@Wildcatt19992 жыл бұрын
Ouch
@toadallynoodle54142 жыл бұрын
@@eliyaskiya Yikes, I happened to hit him with Fury Swipes 5 times.
@SomeAsian2 жыл бұрын
I tried clicking on the video. I got knocked off my chair
@jaretco64232 жыл бұрын
I took an Outrage on it like 3 times and took an pain with iron barbs, than I gotten confused and smack myself like 2 times & fainted.
@browserjunior47072 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, can’t wait to see the insanity Ferro has caused in recent VGC formats and the insane Ferro tech in Gen 8
@htlchtlc2 жыл бұрын
@Depp. spam
@swampy7252 жыл бұрын
@@htlchtlc and self-promo as well
@browserjunior47072 жыл бұрын
@@hecatomb1864 Did you not see the part where FSG talks about how it’s really good in doubles as a win con that can also do a good job at checking opposing rain teams and Kyogre focused teams in Doubles like the Swordfish Team?
@sephikong83232 жыл бұрын
@@hecatomb1864 It's not a VGC Superstar like the Genies, but Ferrothorn is definitely good in VGC and has seen a ton of tournament results, it's no Skarmory or Toxapex
@justaliljello51982 жыл бұрын
@@hecatomb1864 Ferro has ALWAYS been good in doubles
@togakhan12742 жыл бұрын
I had a tear in my eye for the last line - "It's a lonely job but it's what Ferrothorn does best."
@natwilson93382 жыл бұрын
we all know the biggest debuff to ferrothorn was moving its vines from attaching up to attaching to the ground. took a cool and threatening pose and made the poor thing look like an angry shrub :(
@StoutShako2 жыл бұрын
Hard agree. BRING BACK THE DYNAMIC POWER STANCE, GAMEFREAK.
@Kristalya2 жыл бұрын
They would have to create floating magic rocks for it to latch on to. 💚
@torterra1826 Жыл бұрын
Shut up you stupeed Gen Fiverr, go complain about the gen 6 sprites on a video complaining about them and not a video talking about competitive Pokemon
@seDrakonkill Жыл бұрын
@@KristalyaNo, they wouldn't.
@senabecool72329 ай бұрын
@@Kristalyaif Winged Pokemons can fly through nonsense wind, then why can't ferrothron hang from its vines
@grey-c81382 жыл бұрын
The fact that Ferrothorn was introduced in gen 5, and yet its fsg video is almost as long as Charizard's is truly inspiring
@boodstain2 жыл бұрын
I love how gen 5 was considered to have a lineup of “This Pokémon is playing the role of this Gen 1 Pokémon” but then half of the roster are like Ferrothorn and completely bring something new and shook the meta so much that we still feel it’s effects today. Gen 5 seriously might’ve been the most important Pokémon game ever.
@AshenDust_2 жыл бұрын
I’d give that to Gen 4, with good mons and the Physical/Special split
@anthonyk39522 жыл бұрын
@@AshenDust_ It's a mix of both. Gen 4 was more influential through items and mechanics, while Gen 5 was the game that defined what modern Pokemon is as we know it.
@alfredgomez31282 жыл бұрын
Typing addition/swaps saved that comparison issue during gameplay. It probably inspired regional variants, give the old Pokemon new typing/abilities.
@boodstain2 жыл бұрын
@@AshenDust_ The physical special split was the most important change yes, but ultimately everything else in Gen 4 was either additions to previous Pokémon (Babymoms/Final forms) But the Pokémon in gen 5 never got Megas because thy were already seen as competitively viable with more Pokémon in Gen 5 being in UU or Ubers than the other gens comparatively, more often.
@V-Jes2 жыл бұрын
@@boodstain Gen 5 overall brought infinite use of TMs, some completely power crept Pokémon, eviolite what only few Pokémon can actually take advantage of and addition of Hidden abilities with no regards for balance at all to a point that they immediately changed some of them in Gen 6 before those Pokémon could have those Hidden abilities officially, so everythings not exactly good what it brought to the series as most of Gen 6s changes were all about balancing that mess Gen 5 was in terms of meta and mechanics to a point that it made a much bigger impact to the series than what people give it credit for... Also helped by the fact that Gen 6 also finally stopped the decreasing fanbase/sales Pokémon was having issues with since Gen 3 and tried to fix that for years with no luck outside of DP.
@nimbus77272 жыл бұрын
The Ferrothorn Movie: at long last. Competitive history aside, I love Ferroseed and Ferrothorn a ton design wise. Super unique!
@gastrodonenjoyer9992 жыл бұрын
Completely agree! it’s so awesome to see a Pokémon that has a great, unique design that looks cool on top of it all.
@Acacius19922 жыл бұрын
Then I probaly have the unpopular view to think it look at best okay. Not realy unique or cool.
@blobfish16492 жыл бұрын
@@Acacius1992 Name another spiky metal grass thing
@jeremiahjacob46032 жыл бұрын
@@blobfish1649 hear me out, a metal maraca Regional variant maractus confirmed?
@blobfish16492 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahjacob4603 I have never really liked Maractus, but I would be happy for the 7 Maractus fans that are out there
@LionsEatNoobs2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, here we go, it's the big one. While not longer than the Chansey/Blissey and Charizard remakes (though it's pretty dang close), those were Gen 1 Pokemon, while Ferrothorn was a Gen 5 Pokemon, which makes this even more significant
@mauroperez28482 жыл бұрын
The fact that Ferrothorn has done as much as those gen1 pokemon while still being younger by comparison is a testament to Ferrothorn and its legacy.
@mr.boombasticc39242 жыл бұрын
Lando T's episode is gonna be a tv show season's length.
@gastrodonenjoyer9992 жыл бұрын
@@mr.boombasticc3924 I was gonna go with a lord of the rings trilogy’s length
@dabmonstr74032 жыл бұрын
Honestly charizard's vid started from gen 6 tbh
@zaidkapadia68242 жыл бұрын
@@dabmonstr7403 Well pre Gen 6 Charizard only took 17 minutes of that video so... Yeah
@BrothermanBlue2 жыл бұрын
'We will keep it simple. Ferrothorn is simply one of the greatest Pokemon of all time.' Awesome statement pushed to the limit after an epic video.
@gnammyhamster95542 жыл бұрын
"Ah, yes, the ultimate defensive pokemon" ... "Let's give him 94 attack"
@rufusconnolly84892 жыл бұрын
And a 120 BP STAB, another STAB with flinch or one immensely powerful when combined with either TR and/or Curse. Oh yeah, and now there's Body Press
@rhyperiorhunter73392 жыл бұрын
@@rufusconnolly8489 "What could possibly go wrong?"
@trxxblx-wxs-hxrx2 жыл бұрын
Let's give it leech seed, t.wave, stealth rock, and curse :) and slap on a leftovers and ingrain
@ZorotheGallade2 жыл бұрын
"Also let's release it in the generation where the weather that nulls its double weakness is omnipresent"
@strangerintheweb6842 жыл бұрын
Let's also make curse viable with gyro ball, it's stab too :))))
@Thorozak2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap an hour long! I remember first seeing Ferroseed in Chargestone Cave, thinking it was really cool and wishing I could use it because Grass Steel is such a cool typing but I picked Snivy for my starter. When I saw Ferrothorn I hoped such a cool looking Mon would at least be viable and useable in competitive… I think an hour long video goes to show that my hopes were met, but to what extent is amazing. Keep up the great work FSGaming!
@MrMogi-zg2ud2 жыл бұрын
"At least be viable and usable in competitive" Well ain't that a fuckin understatement lmao
@ianluk88552 жыл бұрын
"at least be viable and usable in competitive." Well, it's a bit more than usable lol
@stellarknight042 жыл бұрын
Bruh Ferrothorn is referenced in almost every FSG video
@ianluk88552 жыл бұрын
@@stellarknight04 fr, and its influence is stated in most of them.
@stellarknight042 жыл бұрын
@@ianluk8855 I remember hard countering an Outraging Flygon with it and after it was done I had already set up 2 Curses and smashed it with Powerwhip.
@greenstat1c2 жыл бұрын
We will no longer have to see "No requesting Ferrothorn" in the community voting. What a time to be alive.
@ZorotheGallade2 жыл бұрын
Off to request Ferroseed then.
@Matthew-mo7wh2 жыл бұрын
Heatran time
@jeremiahjacob46032 жыл бұрын
Give it a few years, we'll want an update on our thorny friend
@justaweeb30672 жыл бұрын
Off to request landorous
@actone48222 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Ferrothorn is one of two Unova pokemon that is not carried by any trainer in BW (outside of Battle Subway). The other is Zweilous. Edit: I was wrong, Vullaby and Mandibuzz also fall in this category. I also should have specified non-legendary.
@Magic_Ice2 жыл бұрын
They knew it was too good
@ChillavaKirby2 жыл бұрын
That’s funny I remember specifically getting and leveling up those Pokémon purely because I wanted to see those evolutions. Good times.
@moontah88492 жыл бұрын
@@ChillavaKirby sameeee
@furfousir14202 жыл бұрын
Vullaby and Mandibuzz also fall into the same boat.
@denpadolt92422 жыл бұрын
I guess that explains why I didn't know Ferrothorn even existed for a while...
@ledgnr197gaming52 жыл бұрын
I’m so hyped for when he does Lando-T that’s gonna be insane. Based on how good this was that’ll be incredible
@madysonandres9571 Жыл бұрын
Soooooo what do ya think?
@butteredsalmonella2 жыл бұрын
Kyogre: The God of Sea and Rain Groudon: The God of Land and Sun Dialga: The Warden of Time Palkia: The Warden of Space Giratina: The Ruler of Distortion World Arceus: The God of Gods Xerneas: The Meaning of Life Yveltal: The Meaning of Death Zacian: The Hero of the Sword Ferrothorn: spikes Toxapex: toxic spikes lol
@Rarest262 жыл бұрын
Chansey/Blissey: F A T
@aprinnyonbreak12902 жыл бұрын
Damn, Zamazenta didn't even make the list. He got done dirty.
@connivingkhajiit2 жыл бұрын
solgaleo is the god of sun
@superzockertvyt96302 жыл бұрын
@@connivingkhajiit hes an ultra beast (I mean he is a legendary but in the lore hes an ultra beast)
@superzockertvyt96302 жыл бұрын
Ferro thorn isn't just spikes, he also uses leech seed
@Tungdil_012 жыл бұрын
I used to underestimate Ferrothorn because I've been using Volcarona for a long time. But when people started using Knock Off, that was an astonishing punishment for the switch-ins. And if you don't pack a Fire-type, chances are Ferrothorn will wall at least 5/6 of your team
@ShadowNinjaMaster932 жыл бұрын
Even when you have a fire type it's a pain if it makes contact. Life orb speed Boost Blaziken which is what I run, while fully capable on OHKOing Ferro, has to worry about Rocky Helmet. If you are running Flare Blitz (most do, but I run Blaze Kick despite the endless objections of many) you are looking at a half dead Blaziken right off the bat.
@autobotstarscream7652 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowNinjaMaster93 When you run Life Orb _and_ Swords Dance on Blaziken, it can sneeze on Pokémon and they die.
@Aburner9602 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowNinjaMaster93 i dont even run fire coverage i run sd protect thunder punch and close combat
@Glory2Snowstar2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it funny that they took those annoying spiky seed pods known for nothing more than inspiring velcro and getting stuck on your clothes, and turned 'em into a carnivorous tripod BEAST that can laugh in the face of gods? That's why I love Pokemon. Any creature can become an absolute menace.
@jaretco64232 жыл бұрын
In other words; Arceus.
@ZorotheGallade2 жыл бұрын
Salamanders too. As in the actual amphibian salamanders. Quagsire will shrug off the best shots of world-ending horrors without ever stopping smiling.
@SomeAsian2 жыл бұрын
And then British fraudulent archeology destroyed the world.
Watching this channel has really helped me see just how many meta defining pokemon Gen 5 bought. Ferro, Volcarona, Keldeo, , Excadrill, the genies. And that's without even talking about how much life hidden abilities breathed into older mons.
@notfabio98582 жыл бұрын
@@jaretco6423 i don’t think anyone ever says that in terms of the competitive scene. It’s usually the opposite, people usually associate gen 5 with when they turn power creep up a notch
@mayzydayz6112 жыл бұрын
@@notfabio9858 Yeah was just thinking that, criticism with gen 5 is usually power creep or bad/forgettable Pokémon design. Going from 4 to 5 and having entire teams become unviable even in lower tiers was such a dramatic shift. You can kinda see it now with how much different BDSP is with the lack of gen 5 pokemon.
@EdmacZ2 жыл бұрын
"We're going to give Ferrothorn insane defenses and make it very slow." "Wouldn't that make it bait? It can't defend itself." "Aha, there's the catch. It can. Give it 94 attack."
@TyrantWesker2 жыл бұрын
"You know what, scratch that. Let it attack using its Defense."
@djdrizzy91392 жыл бұрын
I love to see Grass Pokémon being really good! Grass/Steel is such a cool combo.
@dabmonstr74032 жыл бұрын
That flamethrower coming from an emboar ko'ing it is a bit bad tho
@djdrizzy91392 жыл бұрын
@@dabmonstr7403 It's a small price to pay for the massive defensive buff for Grass.
@MidoseitoAkage2 жыл бұрын
*Laugh maniacly in heatran*
@Tintelinus2 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how both Bug and Grass are considered generally bad defensive types, albeit with some rare valueable resistances (Ground/Water with Grass, Ground/Fighting with bug) But toghether with still they combine amazingly well
@MrGaga352 жыл бұрын
@@Tintelinus bug steel and grass steel are probably 2 of the strongest type combos 💕🥳😭
@microwave89312 жыл бұрын
Grass/steel is a pretty good type combination. Despite 4x weakness to fire, you're safe against poison, ice, ground, water, and a lot more
@IgnitedQuils2 жыл бұрын
Also some Fighting type attacks
@microwave89312 жыл бұрын
@@IgnitedQuils still not 4x weak
@pergrineheel30182 жыл бұрын
I love the interactions bug and grass have with steel. Steel cancels out most of their weaknesses and gains resistances and an immunity in exchange for a 4x weakness. Bug and grass also cancel out steel's weakness to ground (bug also cancels the fighting weakness). Despite bug and grass being seen as a mediocre type, they combine with steel for great combination.
@notfabio98582 жыл бұрын
@@pergrineheel3018 Same, I’d love to see more grass/steel types too. Maybe then Gen 9 grass starter will be grass steel
@Lonewulf3212 жыл бұрын
@@notfabio9858 a grass steel cat would be cool
@NanaKyoto2 жыл бұрын
With a Pokémon like Ferrothorn, "great" doesn't even begin to describe how much of an impact it has made since its debut, and how much of an impact it will make for generations to come.
@jaschabull23652 жыл бұрын
I just wonder what it'll take to make it end up like skarmory or starmie. I guess ferrothorn managed to prove itself over them by not being done in by a pair o' shoes (which seemed to theoretically be a problem for it, given its playstyle). But time will tell if something does show up to achieve the impossible and dethrone it. Or, who knows, maybe Gamefreak will eventually get sick of it and make it another victim of Dexit.
@accentillia81162 жыл бұрын
@@jaschabull2365 Maybe they'll just introduce 10 different Fire type lines that would be really good in OU
@reneantoniorodriguezippoli75612 жыл бұрын
@@jaschabull2365 or create a new Grass/steel that is a Ferrothorn 2.0
@Leet-iz2fz2 жыл бұрын
In some ways, Ferrothorn is the Vegeta to Quagsire's Goku. On one hand, you have this serious beast blessed with natural strength and skill, a dominant threat who can challenge even gods. Then you have the dumb goofy guy who's been around for longer and, despite being dismissed as "low-class" and "weak," is right up there in the big leagues with him.
@aubueruser7228 Жыл бұрын
In that regard, would Clodsire be the GT Goku or the Goku Black of SV?
@Leet-iz2fz Жыл бұрын
@@aubueruser7228 GT Goku. Clodsire is not evil.
@aubueruser7228 Жыл бұрын
@@Leet-iz2fz Stallsire mood
@ALDO_GOODENS Жыл бұрын
Bruh, why does this work so well? Lol
@eddykidplayzyt Жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn is so mean, he won’t let Executor and Slowbro get married in peace :(
@egbertmilton400310 ай бұрын
Thank goodness Magnezone is an ally, he can easily stop Ferrothorn's homophobia
@Star-qm5se10 ай бұрын
@@egbertmilton4003 If we come together we can stop Ferrothorn’s homophobia
@TheQuilavaQueen8 ай бұрын
@@Star-qm5se Now with the help of trans ally Amoongus!
@loserssuite8 ай бұрын
@TheQuilavaQueen we can also summon trans icon shiny sylveon
@StormlordOG5 ай бұрын
What's going on
@GaryMFOak692 жыл бұрын
BW1 was my first game, and to this day I remember the moment my Ferrothorn tanked a Flamethrower from Ghetsis’ Life Orb Hydreigon despite being 5 levels lower. I’ve never even heard of competitive battling but since then Ferro was my favourite Pokémon 11 years later, still dominating OU and Ubers with 489 BST makes me so proud. Super excited it finally got its own episode!
@yorecf96412 жыл бұрын
His Hydreigon didn't have a Life Orb in BW1 but it did use Fire Blast instead of Flamethrower. Impressive either way.
@GaryMFOak692 жыл бұрын
@@yorecf9641 whoops you’re right. Must have remember the move wrongly, but I vividly remember it living the fire move and doing like 50% back with Gyro Ball
@PrismaAce2 жыл бұрын
its crazy how minmaxed ferro’s stats are
@Jollofmuncher20002 жыл бұрын
bst doesn't really matter ferrothorn just has an actual good stat spread with no nonsense involved whatsoever
@yorecf96412 жыл бұрын
@@Jollofmuncher2000 plus an ability that compliments its stats and typing well.
@crabjuice30012 жыл бұрын
One of the best well made competitive Pokémon. I love this thing.
@Tangrowth_Fan2 жыл бұрын
Another thing too, I always found Ferrothorn to be kinda adorable
@Revoltine2 жыл бұрын
Please report the stupid bot.
@AlexandroGarcia64922 жыл бұрын
One of the most wall made competitive Pokémon
@sephikong83232 жыл бұрын
And by "Well Made" what needs to be said is that it not only means "good" but also "fair" Ferrothorn has countless great traits, but it's perfectly fair as it lacks reliable recovery outside of Leech Seed etc, it's not like Toxapex which feels completely cheap in singles or Incineroar in Doubles, those are just bullshit mons
@ubermaster12 жыл бұрын
@@Tangrowth_Fan it’s the lack of a mouth that makes it adorable to me, don’t get why
@gio92552 жыл бұрын
More like how ABSOLUTELY AMAZING was Ferrothorn. I couldn't imagine the insane amount of research and editing required to make a video on Ferrothorn. No wonder there was no video last week. Even it's pre-evolution was incredible in low tiers and Little Cup. A video of it's success could only be rivaled in scope by Landorus/Landorus-T. Ferrothorn is the most successful grass type of all time. Gen V completely redefined what it meant to be a OU staple, with mons like Ferrothorn, Volcarona, Excadrill and Landorus taking the lead. Ferrothorn is one of the best Pokémon of all time and will continue to be in future games.
@lOI0IOl9622 жыл бұрын
“How dominant was ferrothorn”
@TheCanadianWifier2 жыл бұрын
well said
@mr.dudley34842 жыл бұрын
> A video of it's success could only be rivaled in scope by Landorus/Landorus-T. Did you forget Tyranitar exists lmaoof
@jayanths12212 жыл бұрын
The 4 horsemen of OU - 1. Landorus-T 2. Ferrothorn 3. Garchomp 3. Heatran Two done, two to go.
@Seinsmelled2 жыл бұрын
magnezone gliscor tyranitar blissey + Chansey and zapdos
@joelmiller47412 жыл бұрын
tyranitar, chansey and zapdos?
@vasimbelim1091 Жыл бұрын
@@joelmiller4741 tyranitar was fallen chansey blis keeps falling and rising even zap was UUbl at time
@TheMuff1nMan7 Жыл бұрын
Just got heatran to go
@khemically6124 Жыл бұрын
The prophecy has been fulfilled
@Warhawk90122 жыл бұрын
With a base stat total of just 489, Ferrothorn is a *great* example of why BST is not the be-all end-all of a Pokémon’s viability. Ferrothorn has the perfect combination of a good ability, great typing, useable movepool and a solid stat *distribution* (which is just as, if not, *more important* than BST itself.)
@gefadsfrrewdgfbt5811 Жыл бұрын
With the bst it has, some say it may one day get a evolution.
@MegaMilesprower Жыл бұрын
Could this be a new theorom? The ferrothorn theorem, or why base stats may not be everything.
@1080lights Жыл бұрын
That’s because its speed is a dump stat. It wouldn’t really become any better if it had 30 more points in speed and had a total of 519.
@TheBfutgreg Жыл бұрын
More important unless you're Shuckle
@TheBfutgreg Жыл бұрын
@@1080lights Plus the opportunity of having trick room, for some gimmicky set 70-80 speed is the worst
@techknight37532 жыл бұрын
Personally love assault vest ferro, nobody expects the extra special bulk. They especially don't expect it to OHKO their switch in (on a resisted hit in some cases.) Though ofc it is still scared to death of staying in against fire and/or fighting stabs. +Atk - Speed, max Atk + Hp, rest in Def or Spdef Gyro Ball Power Whip (Seed bomb just doesn't ko on most neutral switch ins) Body Press Knock Off
@1peidu2 жыл бұрын
funnily enough, even though ferro is a great wall, stall usually can't fit it because stall as a playstyle already gets 6 0ed by magma taunt heatran so slapping on more mons that get smashed by tran is a bad idea.
@grassfish012 жыл бұрын
Ferro is more of a tank, it can take a few hits and dish it back with Gyro Ball, Power Whip, or Body Press
@hugopereira22412 жыл бұрын
It's actually more cause leech seed is bad recovery and magnezone exists, Heatran isnt too big of a deal
@SamoIsKing2 жыл бұрын
Thats why I usually run either Quagsire or Gliscor in my stall teams to hard counter Heatran.
@1peidu2 жыл бұрын
@@hugopereira2241 the hell are you smoking trying to counter heatran with scarf magnezone. those things run damn near max spdef.
@diegoxavier91072 жыл бұрын
@@1peidu Countering Ferrothorn with Magnezone, not Heatran
@joeyyoung51732 жыл бұрын
What I love about Ferrothorn is even though it is absolutely amazing it never felt broken, overpowered or unhealthy. I can't imagine a metagame in current times without Ferro and I don't want to either
@greenblaze94062 жыл бұрын
Scarlet and violet: howdy!
@chrome3742 жыл бұрын
Note: While ferrothorn is definitely a factor in zacian running sacred sword, the main reason zacian runs sacred sword is so that it doesn't have to deal with defense drops, as defense drops make it harder to use zacian's good bulk, something a lot of players are investing in right now. Also noted that ferro has fallen off a fair bit due to the rise of rinya sun and swordfish teams transitioning to rilla as their grass type.
@skeetermania32022 жыл бұрын
What is Rinya?
@skeetermania32022 жыл бұрын
Defense drops? You mean defense boosts?
@halfway76902 жыл бұрын
@@skeetermania3202 I manual they mean running sacred sword over close combat. Both works I guess.
@clttr Жыл бұрын
We must let Ferro rest, they've carried too long (or made you pissed) and need a well deserved rest
@lancelotdegraaf39442 жыл бұрын
I just love how necrozma just absolutely nukes other pokemon with light that burns the sky and then ferrothorn is just there like 'nice attack, but not enough!' And then proceeds to kill it with gyro ball.
@Juniper_Rose2 жыл бұрын
I think Ferrothorn is one of those rare pokemon that completely changes the face of OU without "overcentralizing". It is an absolute powerhouse of a threat that NEEDS to be one most, if not all, teams. But if the temperature rises above 80 degrees Fahrenheit, it absolutely turns to ash and molten metal. Fire is not an uncommon attacking type. It makes sure that both teams are using it, but it's easy to deal with. It keeps the meta from being centralized because you need a counter for Ferro...and a counter for its' counters. And a counter for *its'* counters. And a bulky Grass/Steel, a strong and/or fast Fire, and a similarly bulky Water...is just half your team *anyway*. And it's not for one pokemon because that Water-type is likely going to be there ANYWAY because Bulky Waters are a staple.
@_Rhatsody2 жыл бұрын
im surprised ferrothron never got "spiky shield" added to its movepool during gen 6 or 7. i also want this mon in pokemon unite
@alibaba35682 жыл бұрын
No need to buff this thing even more.
@MrcreeperDXD7772 жыл бұрын
No. Just no
@RyusparkX2 жыл бұрын
Iron Barbs, Rocky Helmet as a held item, and Spiky Shield... That seems like the most counter damage a pokemon could do. And hella punishing. Could even give Zacian some issues if it were a thing in Gen 8 (Behemont Blade counts as contact, right?).
@superzockertvyt96302 жыл бұрын
@@RyusparkX *Zacian used Close Combat*
@skullerclawerbandicoot79662 жыл бұрын
@@superzockertvyt9630 Its not very effective on Volcarona... *Its STABs too* Just know, the fiery bugs completely wall Zacian if it doesnt have Crunch\Wild Charge
@spartandumpster11582 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn might be the first Pokemon I've seen that has a decent HP stat with good Defense and Special Defense. The best you'll often see from wall and tank Pokemon is to have 2 of those 3 things going for it, like Blissey's high HP and Special Defense but terrible Defense, or Shuckle having both great defenses with awful HP. Ferrothorn's only weakness is, well, it's only weakness, fire (I forget if grass makes it neutral to fighting). A neutral hit from either the physical or special side will just be shrugged off.
@iantaakalla81802 жыл бұрын
And when the Pokémon has all three it has a bad typing, like Calyrex-Ice Rider.
@alexbeauchamp86272 жыл бұрын
@@iantaakalla8180 lmao toxapex
@albabimam11142 жыл бұрын
@@alexbeauchamp8627 toxapex has just 50 HP. It's just great because it has 3 million support moves like Ferrothorn. Otherwise it's raw bulk is on par with Victini and Manaphy
@guridoraccoon63752 жыл бұрын
back when I first played BW, I fell in love with this mon and drew a lot of fan art and even made an animation of it with flash. years later my friends still remember my obsession with it and gifted me a ferroseed plushie
@jaschabull23652 жыл бұрын
Give yourselves a pat on the back for finally tackling this behemoth. Way to go, False Swipe team! Now I wonder if we'll ever see a ferroseed video. Something tells me the li'l guy will manage to get a video longer than videos about quite a few fully-evolved 'mons.
@AceDragonXX2 жыл бұрын
This was one of my Pokemon I used in the Battle Subway in Black 2, and I was able to achieve 49 wins in the Super Single thanks to this Pokemon, including Haxorus and Volcarona.
@spacemonkey08092 жыл бұрын
May I ask what was your Ferrothorn's moveset?
@AceDragonXX2 жыл бұрын
@@spacemonkey0809 Power Whip, Gyro Ball, Curse, Rest (holding Rocky Helmet)
@spacemonkey08092 жыл бұрын
@@AceDragonXX Oh, that's very cool. Thanks for replying.
@sephikong83232 жыл бұрын
Curse + Gyro Ball was such a good set for farming the Subway, especially when paired with Chandelure like I did, they work really REALLY well together
@reviewspiteras2 жыл бұрын
How difficult was to achieve the 49 wins with this team? I mean how many tries it tooked? I been trying to get that many wins and is taking me forever, I tried many teams and get 35 at most
@creeperkelten2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Ferrothron has more to talk about than all 4 Deoxys forms combined scares me
@mauroperez28482 жыл бұрын
Unlike the Deoxys forms that fell out of favor in gen 7, Ferrothorn still did its job well in ubers and it even survived the dexit to Galar.
@jaretco64232 жыл бұрын
Deoxy is just an poor cross between Mewtwo, Arceus & Rotom.
@gotdamn49892 жыл бұрын
@@jaretco6423 poor? wdym
@bigarcana55532 жыл бұрын
Well, Ferro sees use in OU/Ubers AND VGC in every generation its been in, while Deoxys ONLY exists in Ubers because Mythicals are banned in VGC
@iantaakalla81802 жыл бұрын
Basically, Deoxys is only good in Gen 5 and below. Ferrothorn will never become irrelevant.
@GuyFromCanada2 жыл бұрын
“It’s MY sleepover, I GET to choose the movie!”
@taproot06192 жыл бұрын
As someone who LOVES grass and who started playing in gen 5, Ferrothorn is one of my favorite mons of all time. so this was just wonderful. Thank you!
@EdmacZ2 жыл бұрын
Maractus: "Who are you fellow spikey plant?" Ferrothorn: "I'm you. Only usable."
@thel-iteralone45922 жыл бұрын
YAHOO! To say that I've been waiting for Ferrothorn to be covered after always hearing it mentioned on this channel is an understatement and then some!
@TheHero1362 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn and Ferroseed is finally here. I’m not even the biggest fan of Generation 5 but I respect how formidable and important this mon is. Thanks for an awesome analysis of one of if not the best Pokémon in Gen V OU. Edit: Okay so Ferroseed is not in this video but I am betting we will get it soon, where it played like it’s older evolution in the lower tiers. Maybe even the next video.
@ngmonster10172 жыл бұрын
What's funny is that ferroseed isn't even included in this video. It's an hour long even WITHOUT the similarly powerful pre evolution's adventures in the lower tiers.
@sephikong83232 жыл бұрын
Ferroseed's solo video is also gonna be easily 25 minutes long I presume since in every single generation it is viable in 1-2 lower tier AND Little Cup
@ngmonster10172 жыл бұрын
@@sephikong8323 Yeah probably. Although it depends on how much they have to say about it considering it has a similar role to ferrothorn but without a vgc presence.
@a2g1082 жыл бұрын
You know this thing is amazing when its video length is the same as Chansey and Blissey even though it only had 3 gens
@IgnitedQuils2 жыл бұрын
Since it had better VGC experience and has been constantly in OU while both have been at UU at least once
@screamflight10442 жыл бұрын
And only being a couple of minutes shorter than Charizard and its two mega evolutions
@SamoIsKing2 жыл бұрын
4 gens.
@skeetermania32022 жыл бұрын
@@IgnitedQuils To be fair, more tiers are covered in the Chansey/Blissey video.
@Eterrath2 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn's stats always seemed odd to me. Like 74, not 75? 131, not 130? 116, not 115? Oh well, at least the speed stat is divisible by 5. It seems like all the stats were designed around the speed stat.
@bluebaron68112 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn died, guys. He is a victim of dex-it. Press F to pay respects for the bastard durian.
@mr.penguindrewmateo8146 Жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn: Please, Revival bless me in the DLC
@emeraldmoon8393 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.penguindrewmateo8146 We need the swiss army nut back in the metagame with how many nukes are being thrown around this generation
@Lissy_YT48110 ай бұрын
@@mr.penguindrewmateo8146welp...
@Lissy_YT48110 ай бұрын
@@mr.penguindrewmateo8146welp...
@mach95a1139 ай бұрын
F
@TerminaBroTheFirst2 жыл бұрын
Heatran + Ferrothorn + Landorus T have been my go to Bread and Butter core since basically forever and it's nice to hear more about Ferrothorn
@jaretco64232 жыл бұрын
What about Rotom?
@lyingcorn2 жыл бұрын
@@jaretco6423 rotom isn't amazing in gen 8 OU, while lando, ferro and hetran make up top 3
@Materialist392 жыл бұрын
I think 70% of my Gen 7 teams had this core
@pineapplepizza12132 жыл бұрын
@@moss7910 rotom wash never had scald
@brain_tonic2 жыл бұрын
These are the GOAT mons of competitive.
@Softcorns2 жыл бұрын
Several videos for some really important mons, such as Groudon and Kyogre, were made in previous years while they are continuing to make huge impact in the current meta game. Hope to see a update for those videos in the future.
@jaschabull23652 жыл бұрын
I'd say some of the earlier reviews like starmie and gengar could definitely use a revisiting. Those guys' reviews were too early to cover even gen 7.
@SomeAsian2 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn is one of my favorite Pokemon of all time. I always wanted a Grass/Steel type.
@wyverngaming65472 жыл бұрын
“What else could it take on? Oh you know, just ARCEUS” has gotta be one of my new favorite sentences ever spoken.
@Super_Top_Secret_Area2 жыл бұрын
Happy to see this. I remember that back then during early Gen 5, I found forum posts questioning Ferrothorn's viability and purpose because many just didn't see how valuable of an addition it was to a team. It's interesting to see how competitive knowledge evolved. Now Ferrothorn's viability is just visibly obvious. Steel type is that good.
@Cometstarlight2 жыл бұрын
"This feature length film is sponsored--" HECK YEAH, dude. With a video that's THIS long, I'm glad you're getting some guaranteed revenue from it.
@Calebblue1012 жыл бұрын
Chansey: Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!
@autobotstarscream7652 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn used Body Press!
@Natesuo2 жыл бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765 the trick is that chansey is holding focus sash and the battle is in a simulation of gen 4 hp bars
@mounne132 жыл бұрын
As a ferropex main in casual gen 7, I'm glad to see one of the 2 best tanks in the game getting an in depth analysis for those who want to get into competitive pokemon.
@petrolcarcya Жыл бұрын
The way I see it, Kyogre is surrounded, you know what's under the ocean? That's right more earth
@taichou_tre39192 жыл бұрын
19:38 glad you said this because I liked to give ferrothorn rocky helmet and my other tank usually got the leftovers. I loved throwing people off with the extra damage after iron barbs especially if they used a move with recoil lol
@luirromenjivar13902 жыл бұрын
Kellen and everyone helped him on the investigation deserve a huge gratitude from us, thank you for bringing another movie :D
@sarasaland47092 жыл бұрын
Keep it mind. Ferrothorn has had four fewer generations than Charizard. And its video is only four minutes shorter.
@gotdamn49892 жыл бұрын
and it wasnt even amazing in vgc ferro is probably the best singles pokemon in history
@Swagachu1252 жыл бұрын
@@gotdamn4989 Lando is probably better but both these guys have immense utility
@heatran57172 жыл бұрын
To be fair,50 minutes of the zard video were about gen 6 and 7
@gotdamn49892 жыл бұрын
@@Swagachu125 lando t is probably better
@Swagachu1252 жыл бұрын
@@gotdamn4989 Lando covers 90 percent of my team builder 💀
@redbirb80132 жыл бұрын
Well, if Ferrothorn is one of the best pokemon of all time, I cant wait to see what he says about Landorus-T
@GhostbusterPalu2 жыл бұрын
Lugia: Ha, nobody could ever replicate my title of "The Great Wall" in OU! Ferrothorn: *Observe* BTW, to answer the question at the end of the video, I wouldn't nerf Ferrothorn. Its prevalence and multiple duties on a game-to-game basis can work against its favor, and Fire and Fighting coverage remain commonly seen, so all in all, Ferrothorn might still be a beast, but ways to tame it exist. That said I wouldn't buff it either, because like I said, Ferrothorn is already a beast.
@ShiningJudgment6662 жыл бұрын
Doesn't have Recover/Roost though but still a beast of a wall and not a sitting duck with decent base attack with high-powered STAB moves to compensate.
@SteveScapesYT2 жыл бұрын
All of Gen4, Water Types felt almost busted because their only real counter (grass types) really really struggled to make a lasting impact, since Grass has sooo many resists. Meanwhile Grass Types always had to fear Ice Attacks, ensuring Water Types made progress. Roserade showed the potential of a Spiking Grass type that used hazard stacking to ensure progress, but its fear of Physical Water types and Ice Beams always made it shaky as a general purpose Water-Type counter. Even before Gen 5’s announcement there were actually more than a few players in Smogon theorymonning/wishing for a well rounded bulky Grass/Steel type that used Spikes or otherwise had a way of forcing progress outside trying to use Grass Attacks. At the time we wished for such a Mon as a needed balance to the overwhelming dominance of Bulky Waters, but we didn’t think its actualization would not only end the the archetype of Suicune/Milotic/Swampert-like Pokémon completely, but become one of the most dominant OU Pokémon of all time.
@yungmuney59032 жыл бұрын
Well water types wouldn't have been that strong if only they didn't slap ice beam on every water and their grandma as well as having Poison be SE against Water which should've been a thing since gen 1. Water types pre gen 4 were only weak to special types which made pokemon like Milotic and Kyogre FAR more annoying to take down than they should be.
@kellanas9312 жыл бұрын
👀 Imagine if ferrothorn had reliable recovery *shudders*
@Materialist392 жыл бұрын
lefties and leech seed is plenty reliable tbf
@Retro89Dec2 жыл бұрын
Lol what if they gave it synthesis?
@arselcrusader56002 жыл бұрын
@@Retro89Dec There's a good reason they never gave it
@WheelStart2 жыл бұрын
@@Retro89Dec and maybe metal burst?
@N120152 жыл бұрын
Ubers. I'll just put it that way. Ferrothorn would be Ubers with reliable recovery and so would be Landorus-T.
@sajanramanathan2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say, videos like this are totally worth the wait. Definitely don’t stress about missing a week or two to finish these movies, they’re so much fun.
@GamingG42762 жыл бұрын
False Swipe Gaming presents: Ferrothorn the movie. Come, and hear the story of one of the greatest Steel types ever!
@shadowphoenic2 жыл бұрын
i never understood ferrothorns hype i always bring a fire type so they just so quickly im just like how is this one of the best pokemon
@CanadianFaye2 жыл бұрын
@@shadowphoenic fire types usually arent that great in competitive
@heatran57172 жыл бұрын
@@CanadianFaye heatran is crying in the corner rn
@CanadianFaye2 жыл бұрын
@@heatran5717 usually is the key word
@zichuanzhen18062 жыл бұрын
@@CanadianFaye yeah, rocks prevalence and no spikes immunity and no utility in avoiding ground attacks and using Defog like flying does wear fire down
@BlackZeroEX2 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn literally can stand (sit?) there menacingly and be one of the most threatening things in existence Definitely the feature film we were looking forward to and it didn’t disappoint
@johnnyp19862 жыл бұрын
I knew Ferrothorn’s video was gonna be a lengthy one and boy was I right! I’ve been so interested in how Ferrothorn performs throughout the generations because I know it is very popular and reliable, but I did not know to what extent. I’m glad this video gave me a lot of insight into just how amazing Ferrothorn really is! Thank you False Swipe Gaming team! 🙏
@jwanie3662 жыл бұрын
This was definitely worth the wait. Ferrothorn has been a good Pokemon in every generation since its creation, but its viability has always varied based on what the format was. I appreciate you acknowledging the official way to pronounce Ferrothorn even though it's not the way you like to say it lol
@darianclark39802 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the 30+ minute Ferroseed video since Ferrothorn is such a beast! I may not like Gen 5's pokemon designs, but Ferrothorn is one of the few gen 5 pokemon that is the exception that even has Arceus quiver in fear.
@Greatbabyred2 жыл бұрын
and then if ferro wasn't good competitively the design would be trash like "wtff its literally just a living spikeball???? soo uncreative"
@HandlelessTML2 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn is one of my favorites, has been a constant member in many of teams since Gen 5. Love it in a sandstorm team.
@StormEagleCH2 жыл бұрын
Ferrothorn is basically an old truck with 300,000 miles to its name and it still runs better and more reliably than all the models that have come out after its introduction.
@soniccoconut26802 жыл бұрын
pex
@Rye-Uh Жыл бұрын
Gen 9: Removed for making homophobic comments.
@knuu62162 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this day.
@Miruer2 жыл бұрын
If there was a hall of fame for pokemon like there was for sports you'd be sure as hell that Ferro would be on there. One of the GOAT walls
@LucRio4482 жыл бұрын
Just as I'm asking myself if I somehow missed a few episodes, I see this one and immediately I'm like "OH, it's Ferro... well, that explains wh I haven't seen a new episode in over a week" - after all, Ferro could fill like... idk how many "normal" episodes :D Really? People actually called Ferrothorn + Jellicent combo "Ferrocent"? How could you guys all miss out on the giga bad "Jellythorn"-pun-opportunity there xDDD
@B3FMandCProductions2 жыл бұрын
I got back into Pokemon during XY, but didn't start competitively battling until ORAS. I remember watching Poketubers and wondering why a slow and fairly ugly Pokemon with a 4x Fire weakness was so common in their wifi battles. Then I started competitively battling myself and realized just how incredible Ferrothorn was
@whydoiexist21802 жыл бұрын
he ain't ugly
@neeko.b2 жыл бұрын
Swore I’d never watch the hour long videos and Ferrothorn isn’t even a favourite, but I broke it up into bits and here we are. Can’t imagine how much went into making this, so very nicely done to the whole FSG crew 👍