Disagree with Bats vs. Joker in the interrogation room. Joker completely won that fight, because for him, that was never about physically breaking the other person.
@NirateGoel3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Joker in that movie just wanted to cause chaos. And to the end he even made Batman the villain in the eyes of Gotham.
@ratlaxautrai3 жыл бұрын
"physically breaking the other person" is exactly what counts in this video
@toddhollen3 жыл бұрын
Tell that to his face and body
@kingcobra28583 жыл бұрын
@@ratlaxautrai Then its an inaccurate if not unfair comparison.
@romxxii3 жыл бұрын
@@kingcobra2858 you know it's hard to enjoy moral victories when you have to laugh with broken ribs, right?
@ConcordD0m3 жыл бұрын
I thought Joker would have a big unfair advantage but damn that one The Suicide Squad sequence
@vandrvekn73823 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate a James Gunn Murder Montage.
@artistwithouttalent3 жыл бұрын
@@vandrvekn7382 That sequence is to Harley's kill count what the money pyramid is to Joker's economic costs.
@DenderFriend3 жыл бұрын
I think Joker has quite the unfair advantage, especially since Harley only debuted as a character in 1992 when The Joker already had two movies under his belt. Maybe if one included animated appearances it'd even out.
@artistwithouttalent3 жыл бұрын
And yet she still managed to kill more people directly than Mr. J.
@DenderFriend3 жыл бұрын
@@artistwithouttalent True. If it weren't for the arbitrary way they counted the lives saved Harley would've won.
@Crimson_Cartoonist3 жыл бұрын
Joker has been in animation since the 60’s. Still would have went in his favor
@DenderFriend3 жыл бұрын
@@Crimson_Cartoonist Yeah, good point. Although animation back then was fairly limited.
@starshotdirector76053 жыл бұрын
In two separate movies, Joker kills over 100 people in under a minute. Mr. Sunday Movies did a great video about the Joker’s kill count, I don’t think there is much of a comparison considering how much older the Joker character is than Harley Quinn’s.
@pirateraider17083 жыл бұрын
If they included the animated appearances, Joker would've pulled ahead even further.
@jlokison3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention comicbooks
@DarkClaw09123 жыл бұрын
True. In Dark Knight Returns Pt 2 alone, Joker kills an entire studio audience, plus the host and his therapist. And I know they don't weight the kills this way, but Joker has had more impactful kills, I.E. Jason Todd (Even though he is brought back by the actions of Superboy-Prime.)
@Gearbhall3 жыл бұрын
Yes but if they included the animated appearances, remember Harley Quinn once actually defeated Batman and had him hanging upside-down over a tank of pirhanas.
@jonsmith98383 жыл бұрын
@@Gearbhall also she kills TONS of people in the HBO Max show namely with help of Darksiend
@michaelridgaway44883 жыл бұрын
Wait, how can they not include animated when Harley got her start in Batman: TAS?
@luismiranda89443 жыл бұрын
This feels like it's a Killcount with extra steps.
@nadadoyle89263 жыл бұрын
The counting is way off on kills for Harley because you seem to assume everyone she hits dies. Someone could be hit with a metal door or baseball bat or be thrown from a car and survive.
@jp1701A3 жыл бұрын
I object to the death totals, it gave HQ 8 for blowing up Ace Chemicals even through we don't know if anyone was in there, while the Joker's phone bomb implant killed a room full of people and only three were added.
@cheyennevickrey6213 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched it yet but I mean come on guys, joker has had 10x the screen time!
@redheadboyyy1233 жыл бұрын
You can’t count the $20 million he drops in ‘89 batman because they were his face on the dollar bill
@ellynsoup47243 жыл бұрын
Not adjusting for inflation? How can I trust anything you say, then? FilmTheory has really spoiled us with the best of the best quality in his theories.
@no_torrs3 жыл бұрын
I've bonked my head harder than about half of those harley kills.
@dzd23713 жыл бұрын
For real, Harley smack someone with a gate=dead same guy 10s later in the scene cuts his throat=another death.
@saschalevi64863 жыл бұрын
Excuse you, those vases, if they were antiques, could've cost millions each. You're seriously lowballing Harley there!
@Horrormaster133 жыл бұрын
This is kinda unfair considering that The Joker had more different interpretations of the character and more theatrical appearances than Harley Quinn.
@ConcordD0m3 жыл бұрын
Having to count table damage is hilarious
@dontlookatthis3 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched yet but in a 1v1 Harley wound beat joker. But total chaotic influence Joker.
@TheRatsCast3 жыл бұрын
Okay; the $20 million in cash from Tim Burton's Batman wasn't real. It had the Joker's face on it! Therefore; it can't be counted as give money back because it was counterfeit! Do your research!
@BM-wh5qk3 жыл бұрын
He also probably stole those balloons and other stuff, so how does that help the economy?
@kingcobra28583 жыл бұрын
FANDA isnt reliable. Some of the kills specially Harley's isnt confirmed. And if we consider the indirect death caused then Joker would have more since he directly influenced the creation of TwoFace and Harley so i think he do have some credit there. Also, Joker do lose a lot in fights but consider who he's fighting which is always Batman or someone clearly stronger. Harley is pretty op tho since she's stomping literal soldiers. However, i dont agree Batman winning during the interogation scene in the Dark Knight. Beating someone physically doesnt always mean ur winning. Joker isnt even fighting back in that scene but he beat everybody up. Im not saying Joker should win the kill and fight category but the method of measuring is inaccurate. Like you considered Harley saving potentially countless of lives because of the team/mission shes with but didnt consider the lives potentially ruined by the influence of Joaquin Joker at the end of the movie.
@YuBattousai Жыл бұрын
and doesn't the Joker win the fight while in interrogation when the police officer rolls up his sleeves?
@kingcobra2858 Жыл бұрын
@@YuBattousai yes he did. Everything went according to his plan/design during that scenario.
@stealintomorrow3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for reducing the Fanda narration, I hated it so much that I couldn't watch some of the older By The Numbers videos
@macattack4233 жыл бұрын
Ledger Joker burning $4 billion really helped this one huh
@zachmorris66843 жыл бұрын
I really feel like these data should be normalized across the number of movies.
@robdfar3 жыл бұрын
Joker all the way. the scene where he dumps the gas on the crowed should have put him over 200 at least
@Deuteromis3 жыл бұрын
Joker wins hands down.
@Isaacisaperson46773 жыл бұрын
no kidding
@thegamethemovie96053 жыл бұрын
The money section was the most hilarious to me, for some reason.
@rmannayr21292 жыл бұрын
BOTH ARE INSANE!
@jashandeepsinghbrar79023 жыл бұрын
Peter Griffin's got way more kill count than joker
@OGshmo3 жыл бұрын
I love the part where you're tallying up Joker's damage, $200 for TV, $5000 factory - in the back of my head knowing this is just peanuts compared to the scene with him burning millions of dollars in the Dark Knight that is evitably is coming up.
@The7Corporation3 жыл бұрын
In what world does a window cost 1000$ ?
@DoomRulz3 жыл бұрын
Of course it would be the Joker. This is like expecting Hitler to outdeath Stalin.
@rmannayr21292 жыл бұрын
LET THE MADNESS BEGIN!
@yonatangoldstein50073 жыл бұрын
To be fair, in comparing their battle records, it’s not really fair to compare fighting a bunch of guards to fighting BATMAN
@heart77733 жыл бұрын
Some of those 'Harley Kills' weren't kills
@jdarksun3 жыл бұрын
When has Joker been an antihero?!?
@BlackCover953 жыл бұрын
The 2019 movie, arguably.
@MrWiggsy43 жыл бұрын
Quite a few of harley's "kills" there were people being hit. Ie the one where some guard takes a door/gate to the face.
@SeasideDetective23 жыл бұрын
Since the Joker has a 52-year head start on Harley Quinn, this is hardly a fair fight.
@laurelionothaliondor73083 жыл бұрын
You didn't include the massive loss of money from the farmaceutics and cosmetics market when Joker deadly poisoned all the product in stock. A huge and devastating loss of billions of dollars...
@Laurenjoinsyoutube3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the joker was shooting ppl in the face and blowing them up and Harley Quinn some of her kills were just hitting someone with a bat which I didn’t assume killed anyone
@Lord-Emperor-Vader3 жыл бұрын
Joker set off a nuke in Metropolis killing 11 million people in the Injustice game, comic and upcoming movie. Harley was with him and Superman was tricked into setting off the nuke but it was Joker who set the plan in motion so their kill counts are not even close.
@SeasideDetective23 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that in "Emperor Joker" he ate the entire human population of China. That's AT LEAST 1 billion deaths.
@Lord-Emperor-Vader3 жыл бұрын
@@SeasideDetective2 Those were all undone so I don't think it counts but still Joker also (indirectly) nearly caused the collapse of the Multiverse by creating the Batman Who Laughs who caused the death of everyone on his earth by existing. Also if you are counting the China deaths you would need to check the Chinese population in the year the comic was published.
@DRC6443 жыл бұрын
Comparing their fights aren't fair. Other than Joker, Joker is the antagonist in all of his appearances, so of course he's going to lose. While Harley has been a protagonist in all three of her movie appearances, thus she isn't going to lose.
@MrsE042 жыл бұрын
I really wish the figures in this video had been collected and analyzed with more care. This concept would be cool, but the execution here would benefit from a lot more research.
@PanAndScanBuddy3 жыл бұрын
Table: $100 got me
@GodKingSupa73 жыл бұрын
The joker won't go against the irs but I highly doubt all batman assets are accounted for
@Mr.Brothybear3 жыл бұрын
But what if we Included Animated Appearances?
@FoxDemonMaster3 жыл бұрын
Is anyone really surprised by this?
@marcusjones9863 жыл бұрын
I would respect this if there were some comics in it
@Heaven6753 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video
@mrpotatoalsomooman72892 жыл бұрын
To be fair with the jokers fights he is always going against one of the greatest fighters in the world(batman)
@itatalor3 жыл бұрын
I think you shuold say that there all diftent jokers
@MicukoFelton3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, getting hit with a bat isn't always lethal. xD
@jiffypoo50292 жыл бұрын
Harley Quinn has super strength and durability, Joker just has high pain tolerance. Getting hit by Harley is like being hit by Captain America. Getting hit by Joker is like getting hit by an out of shape dude in his 40's. Joker is a manipulator, Harley is a brawler.
@YuBattousai Жыл бұрын
About the money thing, This is assuming they are both purchasing these items like normal citizens. They are criminals, I don't think the joker is just buying a crap ton of knives and guns. He's stealing that stuff which in turns steels money from the Stores further increasing his drain on society.
@teamstone46393 жыл бұрын
I like this concept. More of these please.
@me451163 жыл бұрын
Wish you include Harley Quinn the animated series
@stud60973 жыл бұрын
Harley definitely has the upper-hand physically but the Joker pretty much trumps her in all the other departments.
@Barot83 жыл бұрын
You forgot the ferry full of prisoners and police.
@ThroatSore3 жыл бұрын
And who beats who? No group for most artistic fight? Most dastardly plot? Most whitty quip? How did you miss the point of these characters?
@BM-wh5qk3 жыл бұрын
Worst tattoos?
@jellaurie22273 жыл бұрын
you missed when he’s saving harley and goes into the place she’s held. and then shoved that implanted into a dudes neck, or the guards he kills when getting her out on helicopter
@ImaBlack19698 ай бұрын
Wait? What about the hospital? I don't recall. Was it evacuated? Obviously, it cannot be confirmed, but I'm certain there would have been collateral damage outside and in the surrounding buildings.
@FTWDKSSB3 жыл бұрын
Psalms 118:24 24 The Lord has done it this very day; let us rejoice today and be glad.
@jashan53332 жыл бұрын
truly speaking i love joker man almost destroyed superman and in the end said this to batman " i was bored from fighting u so i thought lets play it in EASY MODE'" i mean cmon he is superman.......EASY MODE??!?! there wont be anyone like him ever again.......now im sad
@m.y11523 жыл бұрын
A dent in a van cost 1 grand? yh okay
@pushingdasies13 жыл бұрын
Movies, but curious how the animated series stack up. Their is less "Harley Quinn" movies but it is amazing Margot Robbie racked up a larger count over all the other movies together.
@capnraymusic3 жыл бұрын
Nom nom?
@gregwodzynski9413 жыл бұрын
That was fun
@joshuadrew52233 жыл бұрын
Hitting people with a bat does not equal death ffs.
@aliciaalexander53683 жыл бұрын
That 20million Joker threw in the parade were joker bucks not really money lol. They zoom in on it in the movie.
@BlackCover953 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it’s a deleted scene. Not sure if that means it isn’t canon.
@aliciaalexander53683 жыл бұрын
@@BlackCover95 no its not a deleted scene i just watched the movie like 2weeks ago. And looking at the comments now other ppl mentioned it too. Just a tad bit of joker nonsense
@matheusazevedo31382 жыл бұрын
That counting sound from when the number goes up is just too annoying
@Gamespectives2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it fair to count Joker kills thr year Harley quinn was written in? Joker is a much older Batman villain than Harley, she was only introduced to tv in 1992 And live action in 2016.
@adamturner12345673 жыл бұрын
Joker only lost to Batman in his actual fights. They didn’t count the mob or anything else
@Ichigo1873 жыл бұрын
What about psychiatrist bills for the survivors?
@GryphonBrokewing3 жыл бұрын
Harley does recognize she *lives* in the world. Don't think saving the world should count against her.
@jernigan0073 жыл бұрын
JOKER is my all time fave, but i Love me some Harley since 1992
@FTWDKSSB3 жыл бұрын
Psalms 23:4 4 Even though I walk through the darkest valley,I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.
@leroyburrell983 жыл бұрын
Alot of those Harley ones ain't deaths just knocking them out or over
@DDarkestKnight3 жыл бұрын
Well it depends cause she usually aims to kill, but the fact that she killed so many in 3 MOVIES!!
@Temperans3 жыл бұрын
@@DDarkestKnight 1/4 came from a single scene. Like its a lot, but its really not that much. Specially when they undercounted Joker considering all the deadly gas and explosions he has used. That hospital explosion alone should had killed a fair number of people easily.
@DDarkestKnight3 жыл бұрын
@@Temperans Well that seems to be her style: going on killing sprees in single scenes. It's supposed to be implied that they evacuated everyone (except Dent) in the hospital before Joker blew it up.
@therealkaminator3 жыл бұрын
Who killed the most people: Bad Boys’ Mike or Marcus
@BradleyThomas-oc8nm2 ай бұрын
You definitely did a lot of reaching with some of those Harley kills
@robinbest27293 жыл бұрын
The most important thing is does Harley ever say "eyes of a mind makes a moogie", or is it I'm of a mind to make some mooky....who knows.
@cheesychoclate53223 жыл бұрын
75k for a appertemnt!? im buying then! here it cost dubble!
@corbinowens24372 жыл бұрын
js...they've only been paired together once in movies..?
@plan_r40053 жыл бұрын
You all specified kills that effected the fair city of Gotham and a large majority of Harley’s kills happened in another country so her kill count is much lower. And the 20 million from Nicholson’s Joker dropped on the crowd was not legal tender and could not be used to settle debts public nor private.
@Crimson_Cartoonist3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t matter. He ended up killing a good number of those people in the crowd anyway
@josue.saldivar3 жыл бұрын
Batman killed Harvey Dent, not Joker.
@Uhcip3 жыл бұрын
Being knocked out by a fence is a "kill"....alrite
@Spyweb883 жыл бұрын
Did you say Two-Face was a Joker kill?
@talariswatts-el61743 жыл бұрын
Fun video.
@Isaacisaperson46773 жыл бұрын
6:39 Unless she's written by tom king than she can already beat him
@ItsKimOlson3 жыл бұрын
GO HARLEY!!!!! Harley is a better baddie. Joker is just a menace to society. Jack Nicholson's Joker with Margot's Harley. 😂😂😂😂😂 Ledger's Joker with Margot's Harley. 😂😂😂 Joaquin's Joker with Margot's Harley. 😂😂😂
@cosmicriptid3 жыл бұрын
How is Joker an anti-hero
@jonjones4873 жыл бұрын
Batman DOES train her at some point
@dimasartcorner78883 жыл бұрын
did joker save harvey dent?
@door50263 жыл бұрын
this is very skewed view if your only doing feature lengths, if you go all the way back I'm pretty sure the joker would win this hands down
@GKinslayer3 жыл бұрын
There had to have been more than 100 people killed in the parade poison gas attack.
@BlackCover953 жыл бұрын
A lot of these attacks would’ve resulted in unknown variables.
@michaelmiller51773 жыл бұрын
The Joker from the Joker movie, wasn't the Joker.....
@mrpotatoalsomooman72892 жыл бұрын
Gosh jokers saves made me LAUGH.
@masterthnag1053 жыл бұрын
The counting was.... dubious on some counts. Interesting video though.
@jermainekngdom31543 жыл бұрын
Do the many eyed one count
@artistwithouttalent3 жыл бұрын
Could you please elaborate? I don't know what you're asking.
@s.l.51473 жыл бұрын
If that's you going by the numbers, you should really get those numbers checked 😅 i don't think i've ever seen something this arbitrary.. even if some arbitrarity is to be expected when looking at superhero/villain movies
@chickenandcheese233 жыл бұрын
Joker all damn day!
@darcsteel3 жыл бұрын
This honestly should not be a contest It's Joker hands down
@Pickleman20083 жыл бұрын
This was kinda dumb video it’s like comparing nightwing to Batman