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@PittsburghSonido4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but can you tell me why F415 is so bad?
@The_Murder_Party4 жыл бұрын
Did they forget you again?! Heresy!
@jakehoddinott57684 жыл бұрын
Films to, anyone is able to do the one x Celent scene you just have to send it Nando v movies!
@bitfusionsouthafrica4 жыл бұрын
X-cellent Pun
@srstriker64204 жыл бұрын
Filmento think this movie needs a rewrite
@fastony96594 жыл бұрын
Filmento gets left out of One Marvelous Scene and One Xcellent Scene, and thus creates his own versions of those, but focuses on the negative aspects. That is such a villain back story.
@chuckhoyle12114 жыл бұрын
Filmento as Syndrome confirmed.
@mish3754 жыл бұрын
Not sure if Filmento is joking or actually an egotistical villain willing to strike just because he wasn't invited to two YT parties. 🤔
@nibor43234 жыл бұрын
way better vilain backstory than steppenwolf tbh
@mish3754 жыл бұрын
@Broken Gear So we have a KZbin villain origin story: Filmento was once a great KZbin reviewer. His insight and analysis had elevated him to the top tier of film critiques online. But, as his fanbase grew, so did his ego. Eventually, he began to think of himself as all powerful. Until, one fateful day, KZbin rejected him from contributing his believed wisdom with other KZbin notables. And so resentment began to grow in Filmento's heart...for his pride had become so great, that he couldn't believe his talents weren't recognized. No matter, Filmento thought: eventually I will be recognized for my greatness. But one year later, it happened again. Finally, Filmento had enough: He would be recognized no matter what. This time, it was war.
@DerikHendric4 жыл бұрын
@@mish375 A better backstory than Magick and Steppenwolf combined.
@NCHProductions4 жыл бұрын
gave me a legit laugh out loud moment you didn't got invited again ahahaha..
@AuroraBorealis1704 жыл бұрын
probably as a payback for last time lmao
@lancethedecayedguardian27194 жыл бұрын
Love your vids man and yeah I feel like they're doing this on purpose at this point lol
@keenfire81514 жыл бұрын
So did I lol.
@JakePollard4 жыл бұрын
they say at the end of their videos that anyone can do it so technically he was invited
@atompunk4564 жыл бұрын
Funny seeing you here
@GreycatRademenes4 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest changest changes that happened during the production is that they *swapped villains.* As Filmento pointed out, there is a drastic shift half way through the movie, where the studio poked a bunch of holes in the script. If you're familiar with even more basic the F4 lore, you can tell that the "other dimension" is a take on the *Negative Zone* from the comic and the villain assossiated with it is *Annihilus* who also possess the kind of powers the plot gave Dr Doom that he normally doesn't have. After the movie flopped the director actually confirmed this and that the studio believed that a villain other than Dr Doom would confuse the audience. *Points at Iron Man movies*
@Filmento4 жыл бұрын
Wow, didn't know this. Thank you very much for sharing!
@michaelstrong53834 жыл бұрын
So the studio wanted Dr Doom as the villain because they think any other antagonist would confuse the moviegoers? I heard people complaining that Joker has been overused in the movies, but at least Warner Bros knew there are more Batman villains other than him.
@GreycatRademenes4 жыл бұрын
@@Filmento Yeah, I remember either the director or the writer shared it via twitter a while after the movie was officially a flop. They mentioned that they were adapting the "Ultimate Universe" F4 (another thing you can tell if you're somewhat familiar with source) and wanted a more original take. If you want you can try looking it up, I don't wish to misinform if I got anything wrong.
@DonVigaDeFierro4 жыл бұрын
Damn. So it's official that they consider their audience stupid?
@uanime14 жыл бұрын
@Greycat R "As Filmento pointed out, there is a drastic shift half way through the movie" He also lists problems that were started in the first half of the movie. "If you're familiar with even more basic the F4 lore" The problem is that most people aren't. Very few people have read the comics or seen the TV show; they only know about the F4 from the previous movies. "the studio believed that a villain other than Dr Doom would confuse the audience. Points at Iron Man movies" You do realise that no one cares about most of the Iron Man villains. The first movie is about Tony learning to be responsible, with a boss battle at the end. The second movie is Tony learning how to make a better power core so it won't kill him, with a villain who has to side with an evil company so he can actually build a suit that a threat to Tony. The third movie is a complete mess that promised one villain and gave the audience a villain no one cared about. Had Fant4stic promised Dr Doom but given the audience Annihilus it would have failed even harder. By contrast if the F4 had gone to the Negative Zone, found Annihilus, and had to defeat him for some reason this would have made all the problems the fault of the F4 and it would have been just as bad.
@Killvoid134 жыл бұрын
I just want Dr. Doom done right one time. He's a genius, wizard-sorcerer in an iron man like suit.
@bayken563 жыл бұрын
Dr.Doom was wack in this movie but I think his design was cool
@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully now that the rights to the characters are back in marvels possession they can do dr. Doom justice since he is the most written and thought out character of the whole marvel characters
@derdork32333 жыл бұрын
...that was Supposed to be Dr. Doom?
@taqresu58653 жыл бұрын
Here's hoping that the MCU can actually pull it off. The ingredients are there if Marvel wants to hire a competent team. They could go with the idea of Doom trying to save his mother's soul with Astral Projection (which was established in 2017's Doctor Strange), and Wandavision nearly delved into Mephisto. The MCU also introduced elements like the Quantum Realm and the Multiverse, both of which can play into the wacky adventures of the Team the way the Fox Films could not.
@Walker-ow7vj2 жыл бұрын
Marav Reviews it definitely wasn’t a bad movie my guy
@i-work-at-enron2 жыл бұрын
I saw this written somewhere and it sums up my thoughts perfectly: "Imagine the first Iron Man movie, but the entirety of it is Tony stuck in the cave making the first suit. The climax is him breaking out of the cave and returning home, and it ends with a teaser of him making the 2nd suit. That is what Fant4stic is like."
@ettorereventon26672 жыл бұрын
or better: the first 50 minutes is Tony in the cave, then he escapes. flash forward to one year later: he has just finished building the Mark 3 and he already can fly it perfectly; he is in a relationship with Pepper, and Obadiah has built the Iron Monger armour. final battle, Tony wins. the end.
@g.d.graham24462 жыл бұрын
Damn
@punkydamonkey9892 жыл бұрын
@@ettorereventon2667 iron mans bonks him on the head and in 5 seconds the final battle is over lol
@g.d.graham24462 жыл бұрын
Ouch
@JoJo-xp6wr4 жыл бұрын
everyone in the writing community: one X-ellent scene Filmento: We don't do that here.
@nont184114 жыл бұрын
FILMENTO: One X-cruciating scene The other youtubers: Why do I hear boss music?
@trevorrogers954 жыл бұрын
Grass Man damn. That’s a scene that should have been somewhat entertaining.
@Del-Dokan4 жыл бұрын
Filmento: *uno reverse card*
@JoJo-xp6wr4 жыл бұрын
@@Del-Dokan hehe
@arkevolver12544 жыл бұрын
Rip him man
@mene1in4 жыл бұрын
I didnt even know this happened. The Thing looks like he's going to casually ask Thor if he wants to start a revolution.
@Eliqueme3 жыл бұрын
I seen like 2 Ads for this then totally forgot about it. Glad the OG Fantastic 4 ( At least the first two, I've seen ) are gonna be the only one (s)I'll ever think of as a real movie ( For the series IG)
@javiervalenzuela82843 жыл бұрын
You rode the hammer?
@bagyongpablo7613 жыл бұрын
The Hammer pulled you off?
@Eliqueme3 жыл бұрын
@@javiervalenzuela8284 "Hey, Take my picture with the ham- UGH" - Muscle man
@Eliqueme3 жыл бұрын
@@bagyongpablo761 "It really is the hammer!"
@WackyJack3224 жыл бұрын
“He’s been active in covert operations with a 100% success rate.” How exactly does a 10 foot tall, orange rock monster go about doing COVERT operations?
@RollingDodge4 жыл бұрын
And why is he naked? At least put him in underwear.
@mellowyello14784 жыл бұрын
Maybe he blends into mountainous or desert regions at night?
@yessum154 жыл бұрын
I guess the idea is that if he alone can do as much damage as an entire battalion, then the mission can be limited to only a few key support personnel, making it "covert". Also, since he has no US markings or uniform, and can never be captured, plausible deniability can be maintained. Obviously, you run the risk that the enemy publishes the footage they capture, but my guess is that: a) The enemy would gain no benefit by publicizing a loss if they're unable to link the monster to a specific country b) the installations being attacked are probably already secret or illegal to begin with. To be clear, covert operations don't mean that they're secret from everyone. The enemy can know that they were attacked. The idea is that the sponsor of the attack can publicly deny involvement.
@joethepopoful4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention he is currently fist fighting a tank lol
@underdeepeer34584 жыл бұрын
If they talking about Spiderman Uncle Ben: am I a joke to you
@lucaskennington91014 жыл бұрын
This was honestly the worst paced film I've ever seen. The characters took too long to get their powers then they rushed the end.
@willisbronze99843 жыл бұрын
They should make a season 2 instead of trying to sqeeze it into a 90 minutes movie, cause there is so much material to work on why would they have to force the ending like this. Its like Avengers but after defeating ultron , thanos just came out of no where and erase the planet
@aldescora3 жыл бұрын
allow me to introduce a successor to the worst paced movie star wars episode 9
@aydenstewy3 жыл бұрын
@@aldescora News to me, I didn’t even realize there was any pacing to that movie
@fuzzykoala61683 жыл бұрын
Exactly, kinda has the same problem with endgame, with the 4 year jump
@bendavies86883 жыл бұрын
@@aldescora this was way worse than Star Wars 9 ahaha episode 8 was the bad one anywyay
@raptalos94124 жыл бұрын
One thing with Doom is that he does have god like powers, but he made them. He’s supposed to be powerful, intelligent, and thinks highly of himself. In the comics he refers to himself in the third person. This version of Doom is pathetic
@Eliqueme3 жыл бұрын
Or The old ass SilverDOOM Show that was on in the 70's-80's. Where my hero MF DOOM got his music persona, And nasty MFKN Samples from said show...
@niranjanr80753 жыл бұрын
I won’t call this shit as doom
@Eliqueme3 жыл бұрын
@Niranjan R Hell no, I only Recognize I few DOOM's and this one ain't it chief.
@Mixhaux2k73 жыл бұрын
and ppl forget hes a king so he wouldnt need to do this
@jacobnorris82563 жыл бұрын
Yeah this Doom is the most dull villain i've ever heard of. I guess he's pretty intelligent, pretty strong and pretty vain. Cool. How incredibly unexceptional. Doom is interesting because he's insanely intelligent but also has his head a few kilometers up his own ass. There's only like 20% of that here.
@movieblocks91644 жыл бұрын
FantFourStic four is the best title of all time
@Korcunu4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like one of MoistCr1tikal's video descriptions
@haykatshemyan88744 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Tak3n
@michaelstrong53834 жыл бұрын
What were they going to call the sequel if they made one? Fant4stic 2?
@Curtisdoy4 жыл бұрын
Michael Strong Fant5stic
@Ramsey276one4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you want to look cool, or different, or CREATIVE... Didn’t work
@JB-bq2qj4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny cuz when he got left out of “One Marvelous Scene” he was a legit underdog but now Filmento has 100k subs more than Nando
@Mixu.4 жыл бұрын
@@juliendespois508 yeah, I saw in one videos replies how a creator (don't remember who he was, but also don't wanna throw shade at him) said something along the lines of: "Filmento was invited to both but rejected their offer." Guess his humour isn't for them lol.
@Circaninesix4 жыл бұрын
He deserves it. Nando is okay, but Filmento is one of the best film analysis channels on the internet.
@drbuni4 жыл бұрын
I love Filmento's videos so much. The humor is on point, and the analysis are usually great and at least for me, extremely helpful.
@DonVigaDeFierro4 жыл бұрын
@@drbuni Damn yes. I'm an aspiring script writer and I have learned a lot from this channel. He knows his shit.
@TreySarver4 жыл бұрын
His knowledge is on point, I just wish he would drop the Siri voice.
@MrCovi29554 жыл бұрын
Fant4stic was the movie equivalent of a reporter saying "One thing led to another" instead of giving us the full story.
@B1_66ER4 жыл бұрын
Filmento: "I wasn't cool enough to be invited." Also Filmento: "[Fant4stic] was the best theater experience I've ever had because I was the only person in the theater."
@itzenorozco37343 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that executives have a reputation of constantly messing things up and yet the continue to get paid six figures to do so
@eduardokuri19833 жыл бұрын
Welcome to capitalism
@andrewpye74592 жыл бұрын
It's more than 6
@drtinyoureye91872 жыл бұрын
@@andrewpye7459 way more
@barnabusdoyle49302 жыл бұрын
It’s a world where you fail upwards. Like being in charge of the CDC or NIH.
@g.d.graham24462 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@logansloan83234 жыл бұрын
That bit where you cut spiderman with the Fant 4 Stick structure at the end of your point instantly sold me. That was super well done and it immediately and perfectly solidified your argument. I immediately felt and understood exactly what you meant and it all clicked into place.
@DerikHendric4 жыл бұрын
That was a super cool way to show how exposition sell you argument better than dialog....... what was the whole point of "what fantastic four did wrong". He made in 2 minutes, what the movie couldn't do AT ALL.
@belatkuro4 жыл бұрын
You know the movie is bad when even Stan Lee didn't even make a cameo.
@kevintcp3704 жыл бұрын
I believe stan lee didn’t want to make a cameo when they ask him to do so
@brandonlyon7304 жыл бұрын
@@kevintcp370 from what I heard they never even bothered to ask him.
@kyleweaver25784 жыл бұрын
Especially when Fantastic Four is the comic he worked the longest on.
@56postoffice4 жыл бұрын
@Amilah same here😲Damn, that's cold.
@Rushking204 жыл бұрын
@@brandonlyon730 thats a good thing though he’s way to good for this trash
@nolanmackall51654 жыл бұрын
This movie is so bad that instead of him doing one scene he does the whole movie.
@nwblader62313 жыл бұрын
Well only the second half
@Kai-bz9ym3 жыл бұрын
@Заработок от 3000 в день mhm mhm totally...
@VincentVincent_893 жыл бұрын
@Заработок от 5000 в день oh yeah yeah so understandable keep going.
@its_dey_mate3 жыл бұрын
@@VincentVincent_89 He pretty much says that he agrees but you should check out his channel, so you can get money quick and easy...yeah doesnt even have the balls to advertise his bullshit in English, just report him.
@Viper-dz2kw4 жыл бұрын
“Ben blames reed for turning him into a rock” is really funny out of context
@yourboyg3o8183 жыл бұрын
The only reason he is the thing in this movie is because they had a empty spot for the machine so reed decided to get Ben to fill this spot even though he has no science experience at all.
@yourboyg3o8183 жыл бұрын
And Ben was drunk at the time
@musha27524 ай бұрын
From the worst Human Torch to the best Killmonger. The glow up is crazy
@pixavier974613 күн бұрын
Same cold be said of Chris Evans, from a charismatic, but really forgettable Human Torch, to the most iconic Captain America of them all.
@ThrottleKitty4 жыл бұрын
Some channels: Yelling into the void about how great everything is Other channels: Yelling into the void about how awful everything is Filmento: Relentless chattering into the void about where the void itself went wrong
@theballzeateralternativeac36684 жыл бұрын
See thats why i love this channel
@Eliqueme3 жыл бұрын
I Agree
@g.d.graham2446 Жыл бұрын
Definitely
@JustElleYapping4 жыл бұрын
"Its the best theater experience I've ever had, because I was the only one in it" Ouch that must have hurt
@tigertim6204 жыл бұрын
IamCalledElle Same thing happened to me, but it was with that sequel to Micheal Bay's TMNT movie😂
@lukedenbeaux63674 жыл бұрын
It happened to me with Pacific rim
@bloodymares4 жыл бұрын
Ironically, when I went to Infinity War, there were only 5 or 7 people with me. Felt like a VIP.
@dris0074 жыл бұрын
For me it was me and my brothers at Jumanji (2017)
@Aldiraider4 жыл бұрын
Its funny that i had such an experience with the "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer" back in 2007. The Guy who changes the films even stole us 5 minutes because he thought there is no one in it.
@The_Viktor_Reznov4 жыл бұрын
5:32 - when the Thing throws the turret, which is just a giant hunk of metal, it explodes.
@thorthewolf88014 жыл бұрын
And apparently vanishes
@Mecceldorf4 жыл бұрын
“Ah, you noticed that did you? I keenly aimed my shot directly into the enemy’s C4. Made of anti-matter.”
@lunokhod39374 жыл бұрын
and why is he ripping the turret off an Abrams in the first place? Are they fighting the egyptians or something, or was there a mutiny in the US army?
@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry3 жыл бұрын
@@lunokhod3937 probably it was an dummy fake tank since these tank cost shit tons of money coulded make way more sense if they used an T-72 tank
@kylespevak67814 ай бұрын
That's movie logic. Cars always explode
@aarons25573 жыл бұрын
9:27 the funniest thing is that in the movie, this part doesn't even has a sound effect. It's just silent as a giant rock headbutts the rubber man
@malachihormel79944 жыл бұрын
When I watched Fant4stic in theaters, I remember thinking the climax felt like the midpoint. It's nice to finally understand why that was the case.
@KnightZephyr4 жыл бұрын
Channels with 'One X-cellent scene': "Send your videos to us, let's make a playlist" Filmento, the Negative Man: "I didn't received my letter, where are the flocks of magic owls?! I'm triggur" Us: "Heck yea boiiiiii, WAR!!" *gets popcorn and soda *
@DonVigaDeFierro4 жыл бұрын
The plot gets better.
@camipco4 жыл бұрын
I think several channels were specifically invited, though, beyond the open invite.
@duckyjoel53734 жыл бұрын
idk man someone said Filmento got invited twice and he just denied the invite, which makes all of this more hilarious, but hey we get content
@dougthedonkey18054 жыл бұрын
How old are you?
@KnightZephyr4 жыл бұрын
@@dougthedonkey1805 Old enough to understand a satirical joke when I see one, what about you?
@nurse4254 жыл бұрын
This is why I appreciate Batman Begins! They showed the training, the failures, the trial and errors and finally the triumphs!
@lalkiran19504 жыл бұрын
Also don't forget The performance, the cinematography, the character of Bruce Wayne, the visual effects, the soundtracks and the scores and the villians too And seriously if the reboot of fantastic four sucks as hell then no one wants an reboot of x men and even worse is that you can't remake x men because it was the only movie which made superhero movies into a great blockbuster film The point is that reboot x men is a terrible idea, because we will have some no so great cast, bad direction, worst plot decisions, awful pacing and so many plot points that will ruined the story itself From certain point of view, the x men should be left alone because it was an classic film and hence that everything about the movie is totally unforgettable
@gamewiz7203 жыл бұрын
100th like
@Chhjmmkg2 жыл бұрын
@@lalkiran1950 Yeah no pretty sure Marvel will tap into that. Maybe Wolverine will be a dreamsexual in that one considering what they did with the eternals.
@Jirujan4 жыл бұрын
everyone can talk about their favorite scene but not everyone talk about bad scene and explain it as good as Filmento
@JeffreyThrash4 жыл бұрын
Is it bad that I tend to prefer reviews of bad scenes or movies? Whenever I watch a review of something that turns out positive, my thought process is to stop the video right there before the reviewer spoils any of the good parts and just go watch the movie for myself. With bad movies, though, it’s less painful to watch a KZbinr make jokes over the whole movie like an episode of Mystery Science Theatre 3000 than to try to watch a bad movie seriously on my own time. It’s also just easier to learn from bad movies, since the movie can’t rely on suspension of disbelief or even just entertainment to make the audience more forgiving of plot holes or poor storytelling.
@horseradishpower99474 жыл бұрын
You mean MovieMonto...
@tiger78923 жыл бұрын
They honestly had a great source of conflict/growth for the final fight in the form of the suits. Imagine, somehow, Doom manages to short out the tech in their suits (at least for Reed, Johnny, and Sue). This forces them to come together and get a handle on their powers in a way they never had to do because the suits helped them. It could've even been tied to their emotional states, making them forgive each other (but probably mostly Reed) and bring about growth in that manner.
@alexhetherington80282 жыл бұрын
This is awesome
@No-pm4ss4 жыл бұрын
The bit at 7:48 was a really clever parallel to bring up, really got your point across.
@zerenadli4 жыл бұрын
No one can beat Chris Evans's Johnny Storm.
@maybebutyes46474 жыл бұрын
I hated him then captain america came respect him since
@jarrettmartin74634 жыл бұрын
Im not being racist but i didn't like how they had a black Johnny. It's makes no sense and it's stupid
@kylergreer1054 жыл бұрын
Facts
@OpGamer567284 жыл бұрын
H2O That booty Like a Flower yeah especially when sue (invisible woman) is his sister.
@benedapal79874 жыл бұрын
@@jarrettmartin7463 preach... This is a biracial saying this
@konstantinstepanov54614 жыл бұрын
love how they show these "covert operations" of the Thing while he goes full ballistic on tanks, trucks, people and they are watching this footage taken on camera from the ground and sky... yeah that seems very covert... also the confirmed kills score screen underneath just looks like he reached a killstreak in Call of Duty :D
@sarinat31014 жыл бұрын
Filmento: Screw you guys! I'm gonna go make my own video clip review series! With blackjack! And hookers!
@lhartzler3664 жыл бұрын
Filmento = Bender
@Katarnis4 жыл бұрын
Forget the blackjack
@Dallows654 жыл бұрын
*AND HELL MARCH*
@suicidalloafofbread20094 жыл бұрын
I'm actually really curious to see what Josh Trank's full vision for the movie was. The first act is filled with a lot of promise, and I really want to see where it could've gone.
@jasonbleau46463 жыл бұрын
Playing off of Filmento's intro, this movie was one of the most exciting theater experiences of my life.....because I snuck into the movie for the first time and spent the whole time wondering if I would get caught which was more exciting than the entire film. For the record I saw this movie for free and still wanted my money back.
@whazee4 жыл бұрын
More like: one X-cruciating movie.
@iliya19334 жыл бұрын
One of my biggest gripes with this movie (besides all the other obvious flaws) is that Reed told Ben he would come back for him, and then he spends a year in the wilderness on his own doing stuff we don’t even hear about, and then Ben finally catches up to him and asks Reed why he abandoned him, and Reed just says “I’m no good to you,” and that’s that. Reed never says that he’s been spending the last year looking for a cure, we never get to see any results of what he’s been working on that entire time, we never get to see any guilt that he supposedly feels about leaving Ben (honestly, the movie makes it seem as if he has none). He just gets recaptured by the military and now he’s working with them again to go back to the other dimension to stop Doom and save the world. And that’s it. Ben asks the question we were all wondering at the time skip (“Why?”), we never get an answer, and that’s that.
@xanxus24333 жыл бұрын
Ohh it's cause eof change in scripts after Reed escaped the facility the script in entirety was changed
@Chhjmmkg2 жыл бұрын
@@xanxus2433 yeah this has production issues written all over it. The first half was decent.
@eeveeofalltrades47803 ай бұрын
I think that's something that bothered me when I first saw the film.
@semyonpronin36524 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, I've been waiting for this video for ages
@Joy-zp3bt4 жыл бұрын
“I’m not mad you didn’t invite me this time” “You’re literally welcome Any time it’s open, anyone can make a video” “NOPE MAKING MY OWN YOU MEANIES”
@erizorico3 жыл бұрын
11:13 The entire cinema giggled at this part
@shanechannel70664 жыл бұрын
The whole movie felt like a first act. Movies have three acts: set up, confrontation/problems, solution. Its like they were planning create their own MCU back when fox own the movie rights to X-Men and TF4. That why this film felt so bland because was to set up multiple sequals to compete with the MCU
@Geral4544 жыл бұрын
That trend is annoying. There are no more one-issue story, Hollywood always left pieces for sequels, so the movies do not feel round and complete by itself. It was very thrilling before, when a sequel was announced and the people know they've obtaining a new story.
@dakat51314 жыл бұрын
Even the MCU establishes the films better though. Like sure they're made with the other films in mind, but (most of them, at least) don't feel like they're only there as an excessively long opening statement longing for the rest of the films to complete them. I can see the similarities and can see how just trying to copy what it looks like can lead to a shallow and awkward result though. There admittedly is a bit of a shift later on, once more films are assured, but they still needed a strong, self contained start. Starting off with the assumption that the next guy will give all your hooks weight just isn't going to work. (That doesn't mean all the MCU films are great, but many of the stories can be experienced independently, with the exception of some of the latter ones that do jump into an existing situation). The tone matters as well- films that presume you'll be interested in a hypothetical future movie without committing to it just results in a dull film preoccupied with an unpromised future. The audience has to actually care what the next segment will bring to have the patience to sit through a filler film. Trying to copy the full-speed full momentum state of MCU without considering how it got there and thinking that the appearance will automatically guarantee success just dooms the film to a cancelled series when surprise, nobody cares what's coming next.
@dakat51314 жыл бұрын
@@Geral454 seems like the films that depend on the sequels assume you care as much as you would if you already had momentum going. If you've watched a great film, you might be interested to see what they have to say next. With a mediocre film, there's no motivation to care. Seems like the pattern is, adapt a successful strategy- but only on it's current iteration, and without any regard for why it's successful- and then they're surprised when it doesn't work. With the MCU, most of the movies are worth watching on their own, until some of the latter ones, and by then you're hooked. The sense that you'll get a complete and satisfying story whether or not a sequel comes, rather than being spoonfed bits and pieces of a shorter part of a story stretched out over 2 hours so they can save some material for the sequel.(It's like buying a game and then finding out a vital feature is sold as a pricy addon. Some people will still spring for it, but the game just won't be fun to play if it doesn't have a fun core gameplay for other things to compliment)
@dmua95514 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I think Filmento was invited, he just missed the invite like he did with the Star Wars defined event Either that or he got the invite and just decided this would be more fun to run with
@owenlo26764 жыл бұрын
The One X-llent Scene was an open invitation to all KZbinr if I’m not mistaken. It’s a free to join series with no real invitation sent to specific Yotubers whatsoever, at least that’s what I was told form one of the X-llent videos
@AntonioCardenasT4 жыл бұрын
@@owenlo2676 both are open, Nando just invited a specific set and allows others to send him links to add into the playlist. I would be surprised if he actually wasnt among those originaly invited into either collaboration.
@ashikjaman19404 жыл бұрын
@@AntonioCardenasT Civil War is funnier ngl
@duckyjoel53734 жыл бұрын
definitely just doing this for the memes
@yanjirujan1934 жыл бұрын
@@AntonioCardenasT "invited a specific set". That's the problem, the moment someone started 'invite' the other, that's when people started to think "well, I'm not invited, I'll just make my own then"
@SourRobo83644 жыл бұрын
Disney+: "Hey let's add this movie to our platform before any of the other Fox Marvel films."
@xavierramirez19114 жыл бұрын
rigth?? i was so confused as to how this movie was on disney+ and not even x men first class is on it
@DerikHendric4 жыл бұрын
I guess they're gonna use it on MCU... like a "parallel universe" of the FF4 they are going to properly introduce. Like they are doing with Deadpool and probably all the other x-men will follow. They keep what is good, and throw what is bad as a parallel universe.
@brandonlyon7304 жыл бұрын
At least they have the first X-men movie as well as days of future past. But for whatever reason they also have Apocalypse there too?
@abhiramhegde25643 жыл бұрын
@@DerikHendric Fiegi has made it clear that the films made prior to acquisition will have nothing to do with the MCU. Not even a parallel universe. The only thing staying the same is some actors and actresses. Every character will have a new backstory, and their other appearances will be disregarded. Example, Jennifer Lawrences Mystique is supposed to be in MoM, but her death in Dark Phoenix doesn't mean anything
@yourboyg3o8183 жыл бұрын
@@DerikHendric they’re bringing in the fantastic 4 into the MCU and they even hinted it in WandaVision were they said that they lost astronauts in space
@JoshuaNorth-yc5bx4 ай бұрын
i love how everyone has mutually agreed to refer to this film as 'fant4stic' to spite the film
@56postoffice4 жыл бұрын
The only actual Fantastic Four films has been *"The Incredibles"* films. Am so glad Marvel has the rights back.
@robertrowley49293 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if the mcu can pull off an Incredibles version of the fantastic four, then we might be set for life.
@Chhjmmkg2 жыл бұрын
@@robertrowley4929 I don't think so. Marvel seem to be on a decline. Nwh was good but it was a nostalgia trip.
@jacksonbrickmedia9392 жыл бұрын
@Ashish Sharma If guardians 3 is bad then I will have lost all hope, but hopefullt gotg ant man 3 and wakanda forever can get us positive about the mcu again. The fantastic four and dr doom are my favorite fictional characters and I need them done right on film
@Real_Shawn Жыл бұрын
Wow this aged terribly man...
@chrisprescott22734 жыл бұрын
LOL they had to CGI out Kate Mara's mustache! Comedy gold my friend!
@JamesASharp3 жыл бұрын
The reshoot wig is too obvious.
@SethUnwell4 жыл бұрын
When I saw many of the other film related creators I follow posting "One x-cellent scene" I decided not to watch their videos, just to wait for your video to come out. And I. Am. Delighted. My wait proved fruitful. And the amount of salt in this video is just right. That's why you're my favorite movies related creator. I love u man.
@stanshatter38754 жыл бұрын
This movie is like someone deleting half of the first movie and deleting the first half of the second movie. Then they murge the halfs together, getting this cluster fox of a movie.
@Eliqueme3 жыл бұрын
Cluster Fox of a movie. Lol, I like that bit.
@alexhetherington80282 жыл бұрын
Lol
@delcox81654 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to like this channel after getting wow'd by the other video I stumbled across. The editing is absolutely on point between too little and too much, the brand of comedy makes a little go a long way, and Filmento understands how to marry his words to it rather than shove it all together. 2:49 Hell March? Hell _yes._
@VintageRubyFilms4 жыл бұрын
Im literally only one minute into this video, the first of this channel's content I've come across, and this man's accent and total willingness to laugh at himself not being popular have already told me I'm going to be subscribed by the end of the video. If I had popcorn, I'd pop a bag before continuing
@KevWebsz4 жыл бұрын
Doom walking through the hallway with heads exploding was the best moment of the whole. Not just better than the other crap but genuinely awesome.
@trevorthornley88353 жыл бұрын
The body horror sequences in it were quite effective as well
@aguywithalotofopinions4124 жыл бұрын
Every time there’s a new playlist you can expect Filmento to play the rebel
@roiscavel39234 жыл бұрын
When I saw that X-cellent scene project, I was just waiting for Filmento's move and... My god, I love this guy!
@aco4203 жыл бұрын
Look, that Harley Quinn breakfast sandwich story hit me. That sandwich landing on the ground broke me.
@johnkaeden2 жыл бұрын
That was pretty educational, and very well done. I actually learned some stuff about reviewing movies. Good work!
@saulothebebop25814 жыл бұрын
The saddest part of this movie is that FOX just sabotaged Josh Trank's career because after this he was just the "Fan4stic" director.
@NexusKin3 жыл бұрын
But he was also the "Chronicle" director, and that one was actually pretty good.
@saulothebebop25813 жыл бұрын
@@NexusKin Chronicle came before Fan4stick
@NexusKin3 жыл бұрын
@@saulothebebop2581 I know. It was still good, though, unlike Fant4stic.
@arturocastroverde33493 жыл бұрын
Remember josh trank directed evrything before the 1 year later
@Erick-tv8oq3 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, he removed this movie from his resume
@itaohs55514 жыл бұрын
I have a theory that everyone saw your contrarian video from last time and just enjoyed it too much, they dont want to invite you in order to see what you'll do.
@PittsburghSonido4 жыл бұрын
Filmento really be the one to go against the fray of an online video critique project. This is why he’s the best.
@Chhjmmkg2 жыл бұрын
You're one of the unique movie reviewers. I don't think there are many of you. Most youtubers just do cringy skits while doing reviews instead of being funny differently.
@W_Ocharly3 жыл бұрын
When you added the Spider-Man comparison I lost it 🤣🤣
@Maura555-f9f4 жыл бұрын
I swear if Filmento isn't invited to ONE MORE get together- i'm gonna Subscribe :>
@jeremytrees72664 жыл бұрын
Beat you to it.
@Epicurus3414 жыл бұрын
One of the others said he's always invited, but never responds. Maybe he likes the image of being the outsider. ;)
@Maura555-f9f4 жыл бұрын
@@Epicurus341 I get the feeling your quite right XD
@Maura555-f9f4 жыл бұрын
@@jeremytrees7266 How dare you!
@RtistiqSkubie4 жыл бұрын
@@Epicurus341 maybe they have the wrong contact info
Imagine if they add him next year and he still makes a vid like this
@arqueiroXD4 жыл бұрын
It would be fun...if they didn't add him just to have him doing the opposity.
@TheMattTrakker4 жыл бұрын
I started watching your series of videos a few days ago...and I keep clicking on more. Even for movies I don't care about.
@codyoftheinternet4 жыл бұрын
This movie legitimately hurt to watch. Without any filmmaking knowledge I watched every emotional bombshell fall flat and lack all weight.
@ShadowHunter1204 жыл бұрын
It feels like two movies cut in half and spliced.
@Megatron_954 жыл бұрын
Good god. I forgot how awful Doctor Doom's design was for this film
@khahinmetameta78264 жыл бұрын
The other one did it better more or less
@b31a714 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this versions look, it’s so strange and weird but cool at the same time.
@gloverwilliams4 жыл бұрын
Taca There are ways it could’ve worked, but the decision to make it so his mouth is welded over while still creating the contours of a mouth makes him look like a green, burned crash test dummy.
@b31a714 жыл бұрын
Glover Williams honestly, he does like like glowing burnt crash test dummy.
@forestgreenking4 жыл бұрын
@@gloverwilliams lmao thats exactly what doom looks like HAHA
@tannith_toyart4 жыл бұрын
"ONE x-cruciating scene" but it's the whole movie
@Hezabelle773 жыл бұрын
I know I've already gushed about your style of video, analyses, and the amazing way you segue for an ad... but I need to now add that your channel is the only one that I don't spend the ad time trying to skip past it. It's such a smooth unexpected transition that there have been times I didn't realize we weren't still in the video until you've literally given the 'use my code for x'. Just a little note from a fan. :)
@sharmansinge32144 жыл бұрын
1:32 Same thing happened to me for Detective Pikachu, went to see it a few weeks after launch and watched the whole thing alone in the theater, which was Fantastic!
@ruisuthefallen47164 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didnt talk about the fact that in this version of the "Fantastic Four" sue never talks to ben at all in the whole movie
@AllieBee002 жыл бұрын
Hold the fucking phone you lying bruh lol no way!
@ruisuthefallen47162 жыл бұрын
@@AllieBee00 Yeah its as stupid as it sounds, I would say watch the movie but I wouldn't recommend it. 😂
@AllieBee002 жыл бұрын
@@ruisuthefallen4716 omg I was just watching it and your absolutely right. How the hell did they miss that??
@ruisuthefallen47162 жыл бұрын
@@AllieBee00 Idk how they didn't catch that but I remember it was one major thing I noticed when I saw it in theaters.
@Chhjmmkg2 жыл бұрын
@@AllieBee00 production issues changed the script half way through is the answer to everything for this movie.
@MousePounder4 жыл бұрын
2:06 I was laughing so hard I started choking! Well done Filmento!
@turumbar4274 жыл бұрын
Filmento is basically the Sheev Palpatine of movie critic KZbinrs
@The-nd1dj3 жыл бұрын
Did I just hear a soundbite from RA2 at the end when you were talking about picking sides? ahhhh yesss, a man of culture
@triple_tubers33142 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be this funny but I crack up everytime he says "Fant 4 Stick" 😂
@mikeguillen25734 жыл бұрын
I thought that we were talking about a scene, not the whole movie.
@tigertim6204 жыл бұрын
Mike Guillen One scene wouldn't be enough...
@zacksilverstone76424 жыл бұрын
Can you blame him? The entire movie is an X-cruciating moment.
@iskoconquers4 жыл бұрын
Talking about the 2nd half
@Arcon13374 жыл бұрын
This is why he wasn't invited
@schattentaenzerin4 жыл бұрын
The way I understood it, that one scene was basically the screen reading "1 year later". The rest is just explaining why skipping this year had such disastrous consequences.
@analyticaldegen9864 жыл бұрын
Your ability to mix humour with legitimate critique and insight is unparalleled on KZbin 👍👍
@PhillipOnTakos4 жыл бұрын
I think the worst thing about this movie is Miles Teller's facial hair. How could they allow that on screen.
@nopenopington28804 жыл бұрын
I mean at least they didn't try to CGI it off.
@tiaaaron32784 жыл бұрын
@@noncanalepricnipale Whiplash?
@marcosdheleno4 жыл бұрын
nah, the worst thing about this movie is Miles Teller... all of it. he is a competent actor who can deliver a great performance under the right director, but most of the time he is not good.
@rogine42623 жыл бұрын
My sister was 12 when she first saw this movie, I was 25 that time, I laughed so hard when she said it's bad. 😂😂😂 She prefers the original Fantactic 4 compared this remake. I'm proud of her.
@researcherchameleon46022 жыл бұрын
1:39 this movie was the first time I ever went to a theater and was the only one there, I was with my siblings and the baby sitter, and there was this one person that was there for a few minutes, but over all, all by myself
@austinmj644 жыл бұрын
I see they didn't invite Filmento again
@arthurdawance11654 жыл бұрын
Next time they will invite him he will refuse and it will be a revolution
@Awesome_Pichu4 жыл бұрын
Character development and interaction, that's dumb. Just skip forward and say they've improved
@darianstarfrog3 жыл бұрын
But..captain marvel.. lol
@Gabriel123321a4 жыл бұрын
You had me at Toby’s comparison 😂
@CelestialDraconis4 жыл бұрын
Actually laughed out loud at the Iron Man and Cap edit. Good shit
@jajak80554123 жыл бұрын
You are a legend bro! Keep up the good work 👍!
@GarfieldRex4 жыл бұрын
7:21 😂😂😂 blends in perfectly. Really liked this video, think is nail on point. Filmento, you should disclose which is your favorite movie (not the one you think is the best, but the one you like the most).
@RanitBhowmick4 жыл бұрын
Woa... I didn't notice that the first time ! 😂😂
@LowReedExpert14 жыл бұрын
I love you random commenter
@Phantom-qr1ug4 жыл бұрын
You seriously do not get enough credit for your editing. No joke, some of the best in the entire "movie-esseys-things" community.
@defvent4 жыл бұрын
I got notifications for one x-celent scene and I thought "Filmento's not gonna like this..."
@johncharles2363 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I haven't heard Hell March from Command & Conquer: Red Alert since I was a kid! Thank you for that.
@K-leemusic2683 жыл бұрын
You're are the best.... You're points and the fact that you show all the flaws and praise the good and what they could change omg... Keep doing this
@Carrotsalesman4 жыл бұрын
Travolta at 07:21 I lost my shit, that was the best use of that meme I've ever seen hahaha!
@bambangmaulana81214 жыл бұрын
It's okay Filmento, for me you cool enough that's make me subscribe to your channel so i didn't miss your enjoyable content :)
@judgelee57414 жыл бұрын
I was so disappointed that you weren't invited to the X event. You're channel is so underrated.
@harrynguyentraining59074 жыл бұрын
frankly i look forward to your videos the most. Filmento stands out.
@IndyStry Жыл бұрын
The spiderman example at 7:50 was so well put to show how bad fant 4 stic did it. Takes the whole joy out of Tobey's growth.
@Grubnar4 жыл бұрын
1:18 This is enough. I have seen enough already. I am upvoting even though I haven't seen the entire video!
@andrewedioma4 жыл бұрын
Would rather watch this than a hundred "One X Cellent Scene" videos
@howardron5434 жыл бұрын
They are too many vids now... I only watched the one where a guy goes un depth to the Birth of Magneto... And it was awesome
@jeppyjep4 жыл бұрын
@@howardron543 do you mean HiTop Films?
@randomation98624 жыл бұрын
"Make a good movie." "Movie plot and character development go BrRrrRrrr"
@yourboyg3o8183 жыл бұрын
Thank god the MCU got the rights to the fantastic 4. I have a strong feeling that they can fit them in with the universe perfectly