Fantasy Author Reacts - Every single Warhammer 40k (WH40k) Faction Explained | Part 1

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Ryan Peterson

Ryan Peterson

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@RyanPetersonReacts
@RyanPetersonReacts 11 ай бұрын
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@AlbertoMartinez765
@AlbertoMartinez765 11 ай бұрын
Part 2 Please
@davidfrancisco3502
@davidfrancisco3502 11 ай бұрын
Warhammer is a multiverse with the warp as the nexus that binds everything.
@kennyburkamp4054
@kennyburkamp4054 11 ай бұрын
I suggest videos from major kill as he makes lore videos and stuff on Warhammer 40k that are like 10 to 20 minutes long at most
@bryanmcclure2220
@bryanmcclure2220 11 ай бұрын
You should react to warhammer 40K vs star wars by fan with too much time
@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051
@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 11 ай бұрын
If you ain't reading 40k books cause you need fantasy books to read then I'd advice Warhammer fantasy
@phueal
@phueal 11 ай бұрын
I actually love the "Innocence proves nothing" motto for the Inquisition - it's not just a meaningless badass phrase. What they're actually getting at with it is that in this world, you can have done nothing wrong but still find yourself corrupted or associated with heretics. You can be completely innocent, but that doesn't mean you haven't been secretly infected by a genestealer cult, that you haven't found a tainted artifact lying around and taken it home, or that the "society of friends" that you've been hanging out at after work with the strange handshake and the charismatic leader isn't actually a chaos cult aiming to summon a daemon next Wednesday. For the Inquisition, it doesn't matter at all if a person is innocent or not, only whether they are adjacent to some heresy, xenos, or daemonic influence - no matter how inadvertently or obliviously they have come by it. And the motto, well, that reminds them to look deeper and deeper, not to stop with establishing a person's innocence.
@bad-people6510
@bad-people6510 10 ай бұрын
Except the quote is actually "Innocence MEANS nothing," and it comes from Judge Traggat for the Adeptus Arbites. That said he is a staunch supporter of the Inquisitional Puritan order.
@janehrahan5116
@janehrahan5116 10 ай бұрын
Those are two separate quotes.
@trashdoge1217
@trashdoge1217 10 ай бұрын
also you could be completely innocent but they found you guilty so it doesn't mattter
@fuzzwobble
@fuzzwobble 10 ай бұрын
My favorite Inquisition quote regarding this concept is "A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time." This doesn't just represent how important they are in comparison to other citizens, though at face value it gives such an impression. Nobody is truly innocent, but some are only 'flawed and mortal' enough to perhaps be allowed to live with punishment. To them, you might as well cooperate as much as you can so the Ecclesiarchy can help find what repentance you 'need'. To them, the ones they most consider valiant are those who openly admit that they are sinners; all are sinners, all are insults to the purity of the Emperor whom should strive in vain to approach the glory He deserves. To the Inquisition, you are insulting them and the Emperor with your cowardice with you plead innocence. You ARE guilty. Even THEY are guilty. By not acknowledging your pathetic nature, you are less than guilty; you are delusional. To understand what this means to them, it's not as though they *want* to run around punishing everybody. However, there's a lot of... specific, things a common person can do to help remain pure, especially when they've had a glancing with the Warp. It's just unfortunate that usually the best contribution in such a case is confession, final rites, and sacrifice to ensure they don't possess and pass on corruption.
@PsychoticFruitfly
@PsychoticFruitfly 4 ай бұрын
everyone is guilty of something, it's just a mater of what and to what degree.
@Alpharius_1994
@Alpharius_1994 11 ай бұрын
After watching Part 1: "Why does the imperium hate everyone else?" After watching Part 2: "Oh, that's why".
@TheDark1903
@TheDark1903 10 ай бұрын
Legit made me laugh out loud.
@williamthehammer1
@williamthehammer1 10 ай бұрын
Yep, that right about there.
@tjalvehund82
@tjalvehund82 11 ай бұрын
Whats charming about 40k lore is that there are in fact lots of good guys and heroes. Those are the ones we follow in the books, at least for the most part. The thing is that they can only accomplish so much within the limitless size of the setting. Also, a hero in ones eyes, is a villain to someone else. It is this that truly makes the storytelling of this franchise so unique!
@ASEVENK
@ASEVENK 11 ай бұрын
This, my personal fav is Garviel Loken, the GOAT luna wolf himself.
@satzbau9185
@satzbau9185 11 ай бұрын
I mean the whole Great Crusade arc is rather inspiring, humanity spreading out to reunite lost worlds after a dark age, with some hope of regaining some glimmer of a bygone golden age, and the Emperor reuniting Earth, forging an alliance with the Mechanicus, and others, finding his sons, founding the Space Marines, victory after victory. And then the tragedy of the Horus Heresy. Reminds me of Berserk's Golden Age arc. Good stuff, the hopefulness and progress of the beginning just elevates all the grimdark that comes after. Top tier fiction no matter how you cut it, just a good tragic tale, and the hope that one can find in struggling against overwhelming odds.
@jeffrobagman2834
@jeffrobagman2834 10 ай бұрын
Lots... is a bit of an exaggeration, methinks. There are some good people sure. Maybe even thousands, but hive cities can have populations in the millions. The number of good people, per capita, is likely less than 1%. Unless you count cogs in the imperial machine as 'good'.
@aquila4460
@aquila4460 10 ай бұрын
@@satzbau9185 To be fair, in my eyes a galactic genocide and brutal conquest aimed at enforcing the rule of a tyrant is not really inspiring. The Great Crusade is not some kind of blessed time upended by the grimdark that comes after, it is just as grimdark as 40k, simply with a nicer paintjob and the worst parts of the Imperium of Man are not a perversion of its ideal, but rather a continuation of them.
@TheNightWatcher1385
@TheNightWatcher1385 11 ай бұрын
The Imperium is so vast that it’s impossible for it to even know all of its assets. Entire planets are regularly lost due to simple clerical errors.
@Zolwiol
@Zolwiol 10 ай бұрын
lost BUT ALSO reconnected to. It's a constant flux.
@13basses
@13basses 11 ай бұрын
Just as something to mention, when it comes to the warhammer fanbase if you get corrected its generally not coming from a bad place or trying to be "well actually", its more that a lot of us are excited about the lore and its fun to share what we know with people who are getting into the series.
@dekai7992
@dekai7992 11 ай бұрын
This.
@TheTrveMothlord
@TheTrveMothlord 11 ай бұрын
It’s also so vast it’s very very easy to misunderstand things hahaha
@FermentingSmeg
@FermentingSmeg 11 ай бұрын
It’s fine, nit picking is fun apparently
@satzbau9185
@satzbau9185 11 ай бұрын
But also I don't think anyone should want to mess with the Warhammer fanbase. It's large and comprised of people who have spent years in the hobby-- decades even, and way too much money on miniatures, books and the video games. There are few hobbies and settings where the fanbase is half as involved and engaged as the Warhammer fanbase. We're talking a multi-generational fanbase, like Star Wars, but cooler because grimdark puts hair on the chest. So while I appreciate his honesty and candidness, I would caution some degree of humility, to at least attempt to engage with the lore and the material in a more meaningful way then just trying to poke holes in fanmade, hyperbolic videos and actively stating that you have no interest in engaging with the actual material that isn't essentially the cliffnotes. It's kind of like saying you've seen The Godfather trilogy or Fitzcarraldo or Citizen Kane, because you read the plot synopsis on Wikipedia.
@dariojanjic402
@dariojanjic402 10 ай бұрын
Exactly, the dude is just so arrogant that his definition of "nit-picking" is fun, and us correcting him in a normal tone are haters, not understanding concept of fun...
@danielk4335
@danielk4335 11 ай бұрын
Its Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40K. Originally it was connected and Fantasy was the origin of 40K but later on the company (Games Workshop) separated the two into different settings with their own origin. But they still have many similarity.
@themalcontent100
@themalcontent100 11 ай бұрын
Games workshop loved to steal other people's shit
@oxylepy2
@oxylepy2 11 ай бұрын
​@@themalcontent100 yes, and their legal team likes to violently protect their IP, to their own detriment. GW exists as a satire of corporations.
@A.M_slime
@A.M_slime 11 ай бұрын
What he said.
@Anthyrion
@Anthyrion 11 ай бұрын
@@oxylepy2 Yeah i remember that back in the 90's there was the Harlequin Publisher and the Miniatures, which thy developed, nearly looked like the regular Warhammer Fantasy Miniatures. But instead 5 Miniatures per Box, they had 10 of them (all Metallic, all looking the same). So you had a small unit to start with, with for the exact same price, which GW wanted for their 5 Miniatures Box. But of course GW did, what they always do. Sue the other company for copyright and the Miniatures were gone
@nukem8128
@nukem8128 11 ай бұрын
​@@themalcontent100people steal other people's shit literally all the time.
@4myzelf
@4myzelf 11 ай бұрын
The imperial guard tactics is basically lets send 500k, they all died? This time send a million, all dead?, 5 million then!, they got wiped out again!? Fine, send some space marines with 10 million....only 1000 survived? Mission accomplished, good job boys
@MannIchFindKeinName
@MannIchFindKeinName 11 ай бұрын
And to be fair, the request was something along the line of "We need some Space Marines, Grey Knights, the Inquisition and some 3 Million Guardsmen with the heaviest weaponry that we have, or they will land" and the support came 2 years late
@Zolwiol
@Zolwiol 10 ай бұрын
Depends on the regiment
@jeffrobagman2834
@jeffrobagman2834 10 ай бұрын
​@MannIchFindKeinName Nobody asks for the Grey Knights, almost nobody knows they exist.
@daviddalke926
@daviddalke926 11 ай бұрын
The setting is evil and oppressive, the factions are evil and oppresive, but, within the setting and within the factions - there are 'heroic' characters and characters that you can root for, especially in the books focused on normal humans - guardsmen and such. The Tanith First and Only featured in the Gaunt's Ghosts books are amazing and inspiring.
@felipebisi4145
@felipebisi4145 11 ай бұрын
Funny how everyone even Bricky goes: I like Salamanders because they are the nice guys. 1~2 Years Later Night Lords are my favorite
@acrab6527
@acrab6527 11 ай бұрын
@@felipebisi4145 Because good guys are boring. Bad guys screwing over the other bad guys, for completely logical and fleshed out reasons, while the good guys try to escape is great.
@sabnock31
@sabnock31 11 ай бұрын
I think my most favorite character, at least from Imperium of Man, would be Ciaphas Cain. It's just funny how a dude who only tries to survive is regarded as hero. He's selfish, arrogant, one can say cowardly, but he still got his happiest ending in a way that can be in 40k universe. Retiring from active service and teaching recruits? What can a man wish for in Warhammer?
@felipebisi4145
@felipebisi4145 11 ай бұрын
@@acrab6527 to me it just shows that the "good guys" just lack flavor in every universe they act in exact same way
@Xynth25
@Xynth25 11 ай бұрын
​@@felipebisi4145because the Night Lord books by ADB are some of the best in all of the Black Library. They're the most humanized view of what are otherwise satirical villains, flawed villain-protagonists.
@bad-people6510
@bad-people6510 10 ай бұрын
What you have to contend with is Warhammer 40k is a game first and a story second. The universe was built around the concept of selling model armies, and so they created a setting wherein any faction could end up fighting any faction under any conceivable circumstance.
@Ottuln
@Ottuln 10 ай бұрын
19:00 People say every one is a villain, but it's not really true. Most factions are working toward what they consider to be a moral goal. Sometimes their goals are corrupted or misguided, sometimes they give into the temptation to use powers to achieve those goals that are considered evil, but most protagonists are working to protect or save something that is fundamentally a moral core.
@canadiangopher4443
@canadiangopher4443 11 ай бұрын
There were technically 20 primarchs not 18, but 2 of them we don't speak of. They have kind of been wiped from existence. But what it kind works out to is the ability on tabletop to create your own chapter of space marines or chaos marines.
@andraskovacs5431
@andraskovacs5431 11 ай бұрын
And one of them became twins so 21-19
@oxylepy2
@oxylepy2 11 ай бұрын
​@@andraskovacs5431eh, Alpharias Omeron are one Primarch in about all but number of bodies.
@QuanNguyen-me8tc
@QuanNguyen-me8tc 11 ай бұрын
Wrong, you can't homebrew your own legion, only successor chapters
@fussytom3093
@fussytom3093 11 ай бұрын
The inquisition would like to know your location XD
@ЯАга-я4л
@ЯАга-я4л 11 ай бұрын
Used to ​@@QuanNguyen-me8tc
@identity7536
@identity7536 10 ай бұрын
Actually 40K is Grimdark for the narrative purpose of increasing the significance of the hope humanity retains all be it at an imense cost. But the whole theme of humanity from an emotional standpoint is a display of hopeful deviance in the face of a hopeless situation that proves to be worth fighting on for them over and over again. even tho they have to sacrifice so much like their morals and ethics. Bricky does break it down very far cause he has to, but from a writing standpoint the lore is not ONLY depressing, it tends to build up the catharsis of deviant victories by making the situation bleak or turning good situations bleak, but not for no purpose of the writing
@ainznewgate1532
@ainznewgate1532 10 ай бұрын
Hello fellow Warhammer Fan trying to help by answering a few questions 1) Warhammer Fantasy and 40k are different universe's. But same themes and Chaos Gods. Fantasy came first 2) There are 21 Primarchs. One per each of the 20 legions except the 20th legion that split as twins. But two Primarchs where deleted from history. 3) The Guard don't have 500k total. Thats per battle. They number in billions if not trillion. 4) Maybe wrong about this with the sisters but I'm pretty sure the flying babies are not actually kids. But clones or something similar. 5) The grey knights is the best a space marine can be. The best one can be with more organs and training. But Custodes are the absolute max potential of the human race at a genetic level. Imagine a character with the potential to increase its stats to 75 points and max out one talent tree. Custodes are 100 point max on every tree.
@nuclearsimian3281
@nuclearsimian3281 10 ай бұрын
11:15 Warhammer fantasy takes place entirely on one world within Warhammer 40k, this world is situated in the middle of what's called a 'warp rift' called the Eye of Terror. Its canon to 40k and ongoing at the same time, there's just SOOOO MANY worlds that this one hasn't been really bothered. Its why so many almost exactly similar characters keep popping up in both.
@Fyn114
@Fyn114 11 ай бұрын
Obviously watch part 2 of this, then after that we usually direct people to watch bricky's space marine legion video and then his timeline video; that's usually the first videos we recommend for newcomers, like a "Bricky initiation". After that, I'd recommend the videos from The Exploring Series and Scholar's Lore; I think they would be more of your style. I'm really enjoying seeing your deep dive into this franchise, can't wait for more! :)
@Souledex
@Souledex 10 ай бұрын
Then watch people who are more accurate than funny. Or who know the lore and not the overview Like Oculus Imperia! Or Vaults of Terra, Leutin’s okay, and definitely skip Arch
@Iselas181
@Iselas181 11 ай бұрын
The Primarch of the 13th legion, Lord Commander of the Imperium, the Avenging son Roboute Guilliman. He is a good man and the only hope against the night
@epyjacek
@epyjacek 11 ай бұрын
For the Emperor and Ultramar!
@VeritasTemplar860
@VeritasTemplar860 11 ай бұрын
Was about to comment that. He would like Guilliman. The good man with common sense alone in a dark place needing to adapt himself to it so he can be heard.
@SecondSince
@SecondSince 11 ай бұрын
He blue!
@Kepora1
@Kepora1 11 ай бұрын
Commander Farsight, too.
@Alkusanat
@Alkusanat 11 ай бұрын
And he likes at least one eldar... that's less xenophobic than the rest of the Empire...
@robertscott2651
@robertscott2651 10 ай бұрын
“I want someone to root for” that’ll be the Salamanders bud. That’s as close as ur gonna get lmao
@JayPlusForerunner
@JayPlusForerunner 5 ай бұрын
Pretty much
@ShinigamiSamaH
@ShinigamiSamaH 11 ай бұрын
For a little more context into the "Innocence proves nothing" quote: There are many factors that need to take into account, even if the individual is innocent on the surface, there is no telling if they are being manipulated by Daemons, some Warp trickery is involved, or maybe an alien parasite is controlling them...etc. There are more than one way for someone to not even realized they committed a crime after all. While I am sure there are Inquisitors that would kill all suspects without a second thought, the quote is more or less to remind them to never take things at face value. Their goal is to uncover conspiracies and threat rooted in the Imperium, to dig deeper and connect dots to find potentially bigger issues than the current case.
@themalcontent100
@themalcontent100 11 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court, a plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. Guilty." - Inquisitor Lord Fyodor Karamazov
@Xaytan
@Xaytan 11 ай бұрын
You're giving the inquisition too much credit. They're bad people doing bad things.
@themalcontent100
@themalcontent100 11 ай бұрын
@@Xaytan that's putting it lightly. Wait until he learns about the months of shame and Badab.
@Comandate7
@Comandate7 9 ай бұрын
​@@Xaytan Bad people, bad things but lots of time stopping or delaying. I'm not going to defend the inquisition, but there are inquisitors like eisenhorn or sindermann who are at least interesting to follow and not too trigger happy.
@DianeticsJr
@DianeticsJr 11 ай бұрын
Numbers are jacked up in 40k. Don’t try to follow the numbers proposed because it doesn’t line up. I just add my own head cannon numbers to make it work better. It’s fiction, and I understand that when trying to write something of this scale, it’s gonna fall short of realistic often. I don’t fault the writers and I don’t see it as that big of a deal.
@NicholasLaRosa0496
@NicholasLaRosa0496 11 ай бұрын
Blame the Administratumn for any poor record keeping.
@DianeticsJr
@DianeticsJr 11 ай бұрын
@@NicholasLaRosa0496 this is the way
@Valthyrion
@Valthyrion 11 ай бұрын
The numbers are underestimates, not over.
@phueal
@phueal 11 ай бұрын
Plus, it's not as if even the Imperium itself knows how many citizens they actually have... I'm not even sure they know haw many planets they have!
@NicholasLaRosa0496
@NicholasLaRosa0496 11 ай бұрын
@@phueal They don't.
@juliangonzales3490
@juliangonzales3490 11 ай бұрын
The lore doesn't really say the exact number of worlds the Imperium has, only that it has over a million worlds. But we also have to consider the continuous number of worlds that are being colonies, found, or lost due to invasions. So the number of worlds continuously falls and rises.
@chadwhitfield6946
@chadwhitfield6946 11 ай бұрын
Plus some of those worlds might have a million ppl while others have 10 billion. The number of thr fighting force, including marines, sisters of battle, etc is supposed to be a trillion.
@majorianus8055
@majorianus8055 11 ай бұрын
29:00 500,000 is probably referring to one Cadian division sent to worlds that has already tens of millions of guardsmen in a Battle
@ryanwight9116
@ryanwight9116 11 ай бұрын
As a writer myself, mostly Mediaeval fantasy and Sci-Fi, Warhammer 40K inspired ALOT of my creativity. There’s just so much in the franchise that my creative/adhd mind goes nuts
@chadwhitfield6946
@chadwhitfield6946 11 ай бұрын
40k is grimdark, but many of the books have happy endings. The Ciaphas Cain books are can be funny at times and end in victory each time. The Eisenhorn books are basically James Bond stories without the glamor. They're grimdarl because they're brutal and the characters sometimes make brutal choices. Still an enjoyable read.
@KT-pv3kl
@KT-pv3kl 11 ай бұрын
Most numbers in 40k are incredibly low compared to what realism would dictate. A few million guardsmen for a major crusade fleet is laughable as our own planet which would be classified as a low-grade civilized world in 40k can sustain and easily field over 100million soldiers if necessary. The Imperium of man has over 1 million worlds, many of them have a hundred or even thousand times more population and industrial output than earth, so a major crusade should at least have billions of guardsmen. The same is true for their space fleets. A few hundred capital ships for an entire sector is so low that it isnt even enough to provide basic protection for 99% of the sector, given the incredible size and number of major planets in each sector. The same is true for the fleets of terra that measure in a few thousands at most.
@justafella8896
@justafella8896 10 ай бұрын
it's less that "Everyone is shitty" and more "The factions are shitty" You can still have good guys in bad factions.
@jonathanryan9946
@jonathanryan9946 11 ай бұрын
No one is blaming you for not knowing the numbers Bircky didn't bring up. Many of us here had these same thoughts when we started our 40k journeys too. So we just love that you're thoughts are similar to what ours once were and are helping you understand that 40k doesn't operate on other franchises scales, but is much much larger
@thevoid8578
@thevoid8578 10 ай бұрын
Warhammer ina nut shell. "You're siding with the Nazi's because they are fighting Cthulhu"
@TheDexterSherman
@TheDexterSherman 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love being a part of the beginning of your journey into warhammer lore. Not only am I subscribing just to follow you as you go deeper, I find it deeply hilarious that these are the videos that are getting major traction and it’s not even your thing. I hope you make 5 hour long videos
@satzbau9185
@satzbau9185 11 ай бұрын
Warhammer 40k, the only thriving fanbase in 2023 when it seems really in vogue atm to speedrun completely destroying franchises
@jeffrobagman2834
@jeffrobagman2834 10 ай бұрын
​@satzbau9185 hopefully Cavill breaks that trend. His devotion to the source material will help, but greed = pump out sequels at cost of quality. Look at the MCU, and I say that as someone that likes a lot of the more unpopular shows/movies.
@whisped8145
@whisped8145 10 ай бұрын
Taking out the Grimdark from the Grimdark is like taking out the science fiction out of science fiction, or simply the adventure out of adventure. If you forsake your core to chase the elusive mythical unicorn of the wider audience, you will not only fail to capture it, but also lose your foundation, your core audience.
@Shadow952013
@Shadow952013 11 ай бұрын
Little bit of a meta thing-- Games Workshop is notorious among the fanbase for being bad with numbers for various things (most notablely for military troop numbers) So sometimes headcannon may make more sense on some things. Lore wise, it is impossible to quantify the population of the Imperium. By the time you've gotten halfway through a census, entire generations may have passed. Personal head cannon would put an average population per world around modern day levels (~7.4 Billion souls.) Assuming the Imperium does control a million worlds that would mean mankind alone has several QUADRILLION people! Military personel (Militarum only) would measure in the trillions and Psykers would number in the billions
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim 10 ай бұрын
Well, I'd say the average population of a planet would be roughly 10-15 billion. Hive Worlds hold a _LOT_ of people
@TerribleScroll
@TerribleScroll 10 ай бұрын
You have someone to root for in Warhaammer 40k they are part of the Imperium and are called Ogrynns
@MixstaNoctes
@MixstaNoctes 11 ай бұрын
Still recommending "if the emperor had a text to speech device" Best WH40k content on youtube!
@themalcontent100
@themalcontent100 11 ай бұрын
Too early. He won't get the jokes.
@allmightyweakling4167
@allmightyweakling4167 11 ай бұрын
I would argue that Helsreach is on par with it.But they are a different genere so... 🤷‍♂️
@allmightyweakling4167
@allmightyweakling4167 11 ай бұрын
I would argue that Helsreach is on par with it.But they are a different genere so... 🤷‍♂️
@jeffrobagman2834
@jeffrobagman2834 10 ай бұрын
That, and the guy that does the tiny zealot stuff. 😂😂😂
@RetroVGamer1
@RetroVGamer1 10 ай бұрын
Majorkill does a good job with lore in smaller chunks, he can be a bit mature in his presentation but really gives it in the style of your best bro explaining the lore.
@mileswakefield2298
@mileswakefield2298 11 ай бұрын
The 40K fandom has many aspects and ways to enjoy it. Some people focus on the tabletop, others focus on the video games and some just the lore. Don't worry about the people correcting and complaining. The fandom can come off kinda prickly at times but most of us are just nerds happy to have someone new in here.
@j9lorna
@j9lorna 10 ай бұрын
40k fans do love to comment for sure. This is something that we have been absorbing for decades in some cases and we have very strong feelings about certain subjects. I myself have multiple armies but have only ever played fewer than a dozen big games with them but jave read almost every bit of fluff about the universe.
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375
@afanwithtoomuchtime4375 11 ай бұрын
Hmm, I wonder what you would think of my own series. Sorta a grand take on Star Wars vs Warhammer 40K. I try to contrast the styles and themes of each against the other, and it may be interesting for you to examine, if the mood should strike you. Let me know if you ever do, my audience is always eager to meet more reviewers and reactors.
@pub1
@pub1 11 ай бұрын
Hey Fan. When he mentioned Star Wars my immediate thought was "i wonder how far into knowing the wh40k lore he needs to be before we recommend the star wars v 40k series" 😂
@chrisspink8873
@chrisspink8873 11 ай бұрын
Nah you have genuinely heroic and loving characters which makes them even more endearing since they exist in such a brutal and hostile universe. People be-love these characters above a lot of the others because they are so human.
@satzbau9185
@satzbau9185 11 ай бұрын
And having great characters makes it really sting when they die heroic, tragic and sometimes brutally undeserved deaths. It's tragedy-- it's good stuff, it really runs the gamut of emotions. Some people say there are happy endings in 40k in these comments, but I haven't personally read of any of those, except Ciaphas Cain. Otherwise the happy ending tends to just be the protagonist and their close associates not being murdered to death. Really wish Bricky mentioned the Lamenters because there's no better chapter to really exemplify this than that-- just a bunch of really cool dudes who's motto is "For those we cherish we die in glory" who have nothing but the worst luck, and face tragedy after tragedy, yet persevere to defend what they hold dear. Much more interesting than Salamanders imho. 40k is a really good setting to read about because it's so grim and dark, it acts as a really good foil for its characters, themes and events. Not to mention the whole Noblebright or nobledark or w/e interpretation of the Imperium some people ascribe to, which makes the Imperium a little nicer of a faction for those goody-two-shoes who can't stomach a little villainy.
@Grimdark-Melodies
@Grimdark-Melodies 10 ай бұрын
19:54 when you said that every character in this universe is shity in one way or another, its not true. Personaly I think its the factions that are all bad in some ways but not all the characters. Yes some of them are not perfect, but that makes them human. They are not perfect and can fuck things up acidentaly and stil have good intentions. For me Warhammer 40K is showing human resiliance at its peak. What could humans endure when pushed to limit. Never give up, stand up from dust and face head on against anything that can posibly be in this universe. Hope is the thing that keeps me in WH40K, that is the message it spreads. No matter what, dont give up. Characters who stand by their believes even when it means certain death, because its right thing to do. Best example is Ancient Rylanor who is all of these things. He waited for ten thousand years in cave wounded and preparing trap for his traitorous prymarch. And after those ten thousand years his prymarch shows and Rylanor is ready to give his last fight. Even when he was mad and wounded it was right thing to do. And before his primarch killed him, he detonated virus bomb to kill everyone in that cave. But psycher freezed time around explosion. Rylanor knew all was lost so he said for me the most powerfull line in WH40K: "I am Rylanor of the Emperors children, Ancient of Rites, Venerable of the Palantine host and proud servant of the Emperor of Mankind, beloved by all! I reject you now and for always!" Then Rylanor was savagely killed by his prymarch. But when psycher saw what happened before his eyes he realised what his prymarch truly was and let the bomb explode killing him. Prymarch survived but part of his pride was killed in that cave.
@Disappointed_Philosoraptor
@Disappointed_Philosoraptor 11 ай бұрын
All this numbers talk got me interested enough to do a little calculation myself so, for anyone who is interested, here it is: 1.000 psykers a day means 365.000 per year. Can the Imperium meet this demand? The Warhammer 40k human population is impossible to determine. The number of occupied planets ranges from 1 to 40 million, depending on whom you ask/who wrote the book or fanfic. Let's ignore all of them and only focus on hive worlds. The number of "known" hive worlds on the fandom wiki is listed as about 32.000. For the purpose of this little math exercise I'll lowball all numbers to prove a point. Population of the average hive world: 10-100 BILLION. Again, we lowball and set the average to 12 billion. On earth, 140 million people are born each year to 8 billion people. To get to 12 billion, we mltiply by 1,5. The average hive world in our calculation gives rise to about 210 million humans and therefore ~200 low-grade psykers per year. Multiply this by 30.000 and we get 6 million. Let's say only half are discovered and brought to terra in one piece, so we cut that number down to 3 million. in other words, even if we disregard anything between 97% and 99,975% of all human populated planets and only focus on hive worlds, of which we assum all of them to have the minimal population. the avaliable supply is about 8 times as high as the demand. To gain a steady supply of 365.000 fodder-psykers a year, all we need are 365.000/100=3650 hive worlds with a population of at least 12 billion and a psyker capture ration of at least 0.5. In short, even if we lowball all numbers every step of the way, the supply is easily met by the most sparsely populated 15% of the hive worlds. If we were to say the remaining 1.000.000 human worlds have a population of, on average, a measly 100 million per planet we can add another total population of 1.000.000*100.000.000= 100 Trillion. 100 trillion divided by earths population of 8 billion is 12.500. As stated above, in the 40k universe current Earth would bring forth about 140 psykers per year. The remaining worlds would therefore provide a supply of 140*12.500= 1.75 million psykers per year. Even with bad logistics and a subsequent loss of 75% of them in some way or another, these worlds alone are enough. The emperor is not going hungry any time soon. Also, big numbers are stupidly unintuitive to work with and therefore provide funny results when you actually crunch the numbers.
@thomaswetzel6796
@thomaswetzel6796 11 ай бұрын
2 Primarchs were expunged from the records
@cl1cka
@cl1cka 11 ай бұрын
When you finish with these videos I highly recommend Bricky's Timeline of 40k - it explains some of the stuff here better and put into perspective major events. It's also much better quality.
@martenkahr3365
@martenkahr3365 11 ай бұрын
11:15 Warhammer 40k Rogue Trader, released in 1987, was the very first edition of 40k, and it was basically "Warhammer Fantasy races go into space and keep fighting each other", with some new stuff like Space Marines tacked on top of that premise. By the development of 2nd and 3rd editions, GW realised that original Rogue Trader premise was too chaotic to be unworkable in the long-term and created most of the foundational lore that established Warhammer 40k as a fully separate setting from Warhammer Fantasy. Pretty much the only thing that survived from Warhammer Fantasy was the existence of Arrogant Elves, Arrogant Sadistic Elves and the Chaos with its Four Gods. The original Rogue Trader was also more of a tabletop RPG with a GM vs Players setup, with the added mechanic of the player characters having small numbers of troops or vehicles at their disposal, rather than the full tabletop wargame that the later editions became.
@whatevernotmatter18347
@whatevernotmatter18347 11 ай бұрын
lately some "heroes" have arisen on the wh40k narrative world but its still tense and they often feel weird
@Roggay47
@Roggay47 10 ай бұрын
There are plenty of heroic characters in 40k. People often mistake the setting being grim, to the characters being bad. Good guys can live in a bad setting, which is often what makes things interesting. Hell they even managed to make me root for some of the necron characters (which managed to somehow feel more humane, in their way, than many of the space marines). It would be way more weird if everything was always grim and dark, which is sometimes refered as grimderp.
@AvgJoeHobbyShow
@AvgJoeHobbyShow 11 ай бұрын
Ironically some of my favorite 40k stories are the rare times when it’s not grim dark, opposing factions/races put aside differences for greater goals, Evil villains with surprisingly deep and emotional connections/moments, etc.
@KT-pv3kl
@KT-pv3kl 11 ай бұрын
how are deep backstories not grimdark? same question for temporary alliances? how do any of these elements remove the overarching dread and inevitable doom that the setting is projecting?
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 10 ай бұрын
​@@KT-pv3kl Because everyone dies eventually, but will that stop you from doing some good in the world? Does the dread of your inevitable death stop you from taking care of your children? Does it stop you from making friends? If it does, then you can admire these people who do not let the setting of their story suck their hope up and stop them from doing what they think is right. If it does not, then you understand why it is inspiring.
@KT-pv3kl
@KT-pv3kl 10 ай бұрын
@@ODDnanref so how DOES a deep villain backstory take away from the fact that 40k is grimdark?
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 10 ай бұрын
@@KT-pv3kl Why does it need to take away for it to be a message of hope? Maybe I misunderstood your argument here, because a setting being grimdark does not mean it is hopeless.
@thomasbest2998
@thomasbest2998 11 ай бұрын
People have probably already recommended him but the channel PancreasNoWork is a good for shorter form videos on both 40k and Fantasy/Age of Sigmar I enjoy your reactions btw, keep up the good work!
@Shamoart
@Shamoart 11 ай бұрын
I get wanting to have a good guy to root for. Sometimes warhammer 40k can be a bit depressing. It is nice to see reactions with different opinions on the universe, seeing different takes is always refreshing. :)
@jeffrobagman2834
@jeffrobagman2834 10 ай бұрын
Hard to find someone better to root for than Gaunt, and he has issues too.
@Ulmaramlu
@Ulmaramlu 10 ай бұрын
As far as I can tell, the fantasy and scifi version of the game are separate entities with similar (one might say rhyming) setups.
@chainer8686
@chainer8686 11 ай бұрын
The term Grim Dark is said to have come from Warhammer 40k back in the 1980s. The numbers are all over the place in this universe. Mankind is said to be in the quadrillions, thats 10 with 18 zeros behind it. The population of planets varies greatly from massively congested hive worlds to remote planets with cavemen. There are a million planets in the Imperium. Some, like Kreig and Cadia, are dedicated to producing more people for the Astra Militarum. There are Pleasure Worlds that are just tourist spots for the upper class. The bookkeeping is also exhausting. A request for reinforcements could be lost amongst many others and may not be answered until it's too late. There are a million Space Marine chapters, regarded as literal angels of the Emperor, and most humans won't ever see them in their lifetimes. If they do, it's probably because the scenario is gone to hell or about to.
@DianeticsJr
@DianeticsJr 11 ай бұрын
I love seeing your take on the 40k universe as you learn more. I’ve been into the lore for the past 20 years and have read many tens of thousands of pages of lore. It’s ridiculous and inconsistent at times but that’s kind of why I love it. It feels as overwhelming, confusing and dark as a dying and repressed empire should. Everything is cranked to 13 and no one are the good guys. But there are so many moments and stories of humanity, human moments and hope against the backdrop of despair, endless carnage, barbarism and hopelessness. Some people want to be negative and that’s a reflection on their place in life. It has nothing to do with you. Thanks for being awesome! Ave Imperator
@candel0692
@candel0692 11 ай бұрын
THE EMPORER PROTECTS!!!!!!
@leoghigu
@leoghigu 10 ай бұрын
No worries, you're having fun nitpicking, we're having fun correcting you. Everyone wins.
@ex-matter3192
@ex-matter3192 7 ай бұрын
Too bad most of the time he doesn't actually take any corrections as anything else but hate
@Walker6thAB
@Walker6thAB 11 ай бұрын
I think the everyone sucks so you cant root for anyone is fairly narrow minded. The fact that "everyone sucks" refers to the factions and the setting, but takes nothing away from the individual stories of heroics and the triumph of good over evil. If anything it further goes to show just how impressive these heroes are, In a universe that is only war, moments of compassion and sacrifice burn even brighter in the darkness.
@kolosmenus
@kolosmenus 11 ай бұрын
14:43 Fun fact, the quote "In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war" is the actual origin of the term "Grimdark". Warhammer 40k is literally what defined the genre
@hadesdogs4366
@hadesdogs4366 9 ай бұрын
The phykers don’t have to be trained, they just have to have a phykic ability and that’s about it, again whilst a phyker is very very rare with say the population of New York there might just be about ten phykers out of that entire population and again this is on a galactic scale where entire planets are essentially just one big massive city much like coruscant which is how and why the imperium has such a vast amount of man power to call upon and why human life is so barely valued where again if say the same number of people killed in ww1 and WW2 were to happen on a hive world due to say a factory disaster causing a massive explosion, the real concern isn’t about those who’ve been killed in the explosion but the loss of a more valuable installation which in turn has a nock on effect on the planets overall economy and output which would result in harsher sanctions or much stricter quotas as well as the execution or purge of the family or people responsible for such an accident, rather than the death of the millions of people who died in the massive explosion which in turn resulted in several entire Hab locks to collapse killing more people, again the imperium is just that massive, all the while any and all people with any magical or phsykic abilities would be hunted down and tend for collection via the black fleet, which roams across the stars, sowing fear and dread as their black hulls sink slowly onto a planets surface, where the unfortunate and helpless victims would be dragged into the black ships never to be seen again, all the while sacred wards and blanks operates the ship all the while the sisters of battle stand guard, ready to kill anyone that poses a threat, all the while as they’re traveling those who are shown to be mentally stable and well fortified would be selected for the axilia as combat pshykers who will be trained on how to use their abilities to aid the imperial guard in combat, whilst everyone else would be selected as a sacrifice and again whilst this is happening hundreds of other black ships re prowling across the imperium, collecting its cargo of unwanted and unfortunate cargo just to ensure that the god emperor never truly dies
@ilyana1126
@ilyana1126 10 ай бұрын
This was a a great reaction video. Thank you for posting this, it was great to see your insight and opinions on the lore.
@kittensmakingcandles
@kittensmakingcandles 10 ай бұрын
"Whoever you pick you are going to be the bad guy. But that's the fun of it." "Warhammer 40k's purpose and its existence is every single faction f***ing sucks, every single being here is s***." This is not accurate. The setting for 40k (and Horus Heresy) is a "dark time" (dystopia) for most races in it. But the actual individuals, groups, and factions of 40k are all over the spectrum in terms of their alignment. It's also VERY important to understand that there are very different types of fans of 40k. And some of the more vocal 40k fans in social media are really passionate about focusing on (and shouting from the rooftops) specific "concentrated aspects" (picking out, fixating on, and publicly celebrating only some parts) of 40k. Such as "Moar/More Dakka" (more usage of more firepower), terrible things doing terrible things (see Chaos, Dark Eldar, etc.), etc. Make no mistake, 40k is one of the best world building exercises and productions out there (+ or - based on which revisions you include in that). It is the product of a UK based creative and business think tank that has been running, across mediums, since the 70s. And that think tank has bolstered itself through the very crafted and measured expansion across those mediums, with the inclusion of medium superstars as well.
@soffren
@soffren 10 ай бұрын
Warhammer does well on KZbin because it's fans arr insane and always comment. Also, I recommend only one book in the franchise. Its titled "the infinite and the devine" and it's self contained. It's a lot closer to your ususal genre than most of the guts and glory type stories Warhammer has.
@Vitalabyss
@Vitalabyss 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, this was the better place to start. In gamer terms: Bricky is the best Tutorial to Warhammer Lore. Definitely watch part 2. Luetin09 is for Mid-Endgame Lore observers. (The books themselves are the true endgame... there are so many...) I recommend: Astartes Project by Syama Pedersen and any Sodaz shorts you can find. (Many of his were removed for copyright but they are real good). These aren't info videos so much as animated short stories from the universe of 40K.
@atlashellfire6486
@atlashellfire6486 11 ай бұрын
So, the problem with your problem about the Psychers in WH40K is that the 1/1 million is the number when they started to appear during the dark age of technology. Humanity was just awakening to Psychic Power. But when Humanity fell, they're number grew largely more and their proportion grew to, so you're sticking with 1/1 million but you're wrong. You can even rewatch the video, luetin precised that. And a Psychers doesn't mean automatically a trained Psychers. Not all of them can be trained and most of them can be a danger for themselves and the others. So in the Imperium view, it's not a waste to sacrifice those unfit to control their psychic power
@ageridthesilverdragon4440
@ageridthesilverdragon4440 11 ай бұрын
oh yeah i hope you watch part 2. BRicky also gives a few recomendation of books to read if you want something at the end of that.
@ageridthesilverdragon4440
@ageridthesilverdragon4440 11 ай бұрын
the 40k is supose to be our world in year 40.000. warhammer dark fantasy is supose to be a different dimension. with nothing of the same other then Orcs being a race in both
@RedCascadian
@RedCascadian 10 ай бұрын
Star Wars(EU) and WH40K are both pretty easily in the quintillions of population. WH40K might have more hive worlds than SW has ecumenopoli, though. They also occupy the same spot in VS debates where they either steamroll everything with sheer scale... or get absolutely bodied by hyper-powers like The Culture, or Xeelee.
@NathanielAcharya
@NathanielAcharya 11 ай бұрын
WRONG AGAIN (DW I like you) The imperium's population has been partially calculated and is beyond actual normal mathematics. It gets into signs and numbers, but the current population of the Imperium stands at around 1.1e+46 (about 100 trillion multiplied several times over, using stated lore for the population of planets then multiplied by the number of imperial worlds listed in the lore, and this is not accounting for being multiplied by decades or centuries or generations, at which point it verges on around 9.9e+83, These numbers are all exponentials btw fun video btw!
@panzermkii7675
@panzermkii7675 10 ай бұрын
So what fantasy novels have you written?
@ex-matter3192
@ex-matter3192 7 ай бұрын
None, at least none that he's published. He isn't an author, he's a writer pretending to be an author
@whatevernotmatter18347
@whatevernotmatter18347 11 ай бұрын
you need to understand that thats the way in wich this fandom work, we are always seeking bring in more people and dont pay attention to the dickheads, just enjoy your way
@DenethorDurrandir
@DenethorDurrandir 10 ай бұрын
You don't quite grasp the the scale of 40k, everyone is the bad guy (sort of, it's very forced with Tau since Imperium players whined about Tau being the good guys initially) but that's on the universal scale, it doesn't mean there aren't any good guys at the scale of a normal fantasy setting. Same with your story telling, there is definitely space for it in 40k due to the immense scale, there are good children stories set in 40k (all I remember is they're narrated by David Tennant and Billie Piper), you can write pretty much anything in this setting. There are war stories, politics, detective stories, horror stories, heroes, anti-heroes, fallen heroes and just normal men getting by. You can even write a full on fantasy story in 40k set on a primitive or feudal world that can be completely disconnected from the setting because the world doesn't matter on the universal scale, or is about to get consumed by a hive fleet.
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim 10 ай бұрын
Oh, my sweet summer child. :p The 50 minute videos _ARE_ the shorter ones.
@Borgadun
@Borgadun 11 ай бұрын
Why everyone loves Warhammer 40k? It doesn't sugercoat. War is horrible, death is gorey and bloody, and the Authors don't shy away to be graphic with those details.
@LotionSoronarr
@LotionSoronarr 10 ай бұрын
Every factions sucks. Every one is shit. - no. Don't take what Bricky and some others say as gospel. More as, no one is clean. IT?s a harsh setting and humanity has to be brutal to survive. But there are good guys and bad guys.
@starburst98
@starburst98 11 ай бұрын
Another thing for Salamanders, they get to visit their family during their off hours. And yes they get off hours.
@hadesdogs4366
@hadesdogs4366 9 ай бұрын
Doesn’t mean that you can be inspired or motivated by something else even if you’re not interested or related to a given subject I guess😂
@sebastianfernandez8613
@sebastianfernandez8613 10 ай бұрын
If you wanna read a 40k book that isn’t grim dark check out the Ciaphas Cain series. Highly recommend
@Grarnir
@Grarnir 11 ай бұрын
Yeees more Bricky and 40k
@ThorMan91587
@ThorMan91587 11 ай бұрын
Arbiter Ian is a great channel to dive into. He has lore videos like "Horus Heresy in" x amount of time. I forgot the actual length, but he does both long and shorter form videos. And he's pretty honest and objective about it. As I recommended in your previous video, I think Occulus Imperia is by far the best lore channel on KZbin. Of any genre or nerd universe. He's that good. Buuuut his work can get quite long, and quite dense. So it probably wouldn't be ideal for reaction
@jameslewis2635
@jameslewis2635 11 ай бұрын
After Brickey's videos to get some background in 40k, you should check out the 'Astartes' animation as that shows what Space Marines would be like in action. Also if you want a laugh I would highly recommend 'If the Emperor had a text to speech device'.
@cyberash3000
@cyberash3000 11 ай бұрын
just to let you know Bricky is missing one faction. as it was released after he made the video. The leagues of votann, they are space dwarfs
@jeffrobagman2834
@jeffrobagman2834 10 ай бұрын
Space stunties!
@Xynth25
@Xynth25 11 ай бұрын
40k is grimdark, but at it's core it's satirical of sci-fi and the politics of the 80s. If you keep in mind that it's the product of a bunch of edgy nerds trying to thumb it at the Man, it makes sense. One of the High Lords of Terra, the ruling council of humans since the Heresy, is literally a Margaret Thatcher expy. Orks are football hooligans. More recent books play the setting straight, but at its core 40k is comedic and there's still several books embodying that. Also, GW writers are *horrifically bad* at picking numbers. They just don't understand scale. An apocalyptic war that lasted for years across an entire hive world somehow had fewer casualties than the Battle of Stalingrad. Common practice is to add a couple of zeroes to the size of most large scale battles.
@stevencavanagh7990
@stevencavanagh7990 11 ай бұрын
Funny thing is that since the Great rift opened and split the Galxey in two the number of Psykics needed to feed keep the Emperor alive had doubled.
@le_bourgeoisee
@le_bourgeoisee 11 ай бұрын
The big picture is grimdark hopelessly evil. But from the point of view of the individual protagonists, they act in good faith, each "faction" with its own inner conflicts. There is room for every kind of story in this universe.
@dsurfer
@dsurfer 10 ай бұрын
I like the Bricky video, but I don't agree with the "everyone is evil" line or as you put it "everyone sucks". As with real life there is evil, good, and tons of ugly in between. The stakes in the stories of 40K are often high. The Consequences of actions/inactions are devastating. Planets are not typically destroyed on a whim, and an occurrence would be investigated. A single act of mercy to spare a corrupted child could lead to the end of a hive city or even a whole planet, either quickly or over hundreds of years. Something as simple as an improperly filed requisition could see a delay in food to a planet relying on deliveries. A planet sends out a distress signal, but due to an unfortunately timed Warp storm or a delay in signal/ship travel, could have reinforcements arriving a hundred years later to a dead or hostile world. As with our world there are different levels of society so you do have the rich , the middle, and the poor. A rich person with proper (expensive) treatments can have lived five hundred years but only look fifty. Whereas a poor person can live under a hive, never see sunlight, and die at the ripe old age of thirty. Then in the middle there is a woman working as a store owner living to the age of ninety the dies of old age. Alternatively a feeble eighty year old man that works as an accountant loses. The firm is closed and cleansed of corruption. No longer having a job and there is no form of welfare. So he dies, homeless and hungry. Then there are Pleasure Planets, lush vacation worlds. The stories are written from imperfect human (and alien) perspectives. Like what we know about our own history, there are redactions, biases, and big holes. As a historian major I am sure you understand this. No the Grim Dark more has to do with the grimness of our reality cranked up to the full galactic scale with a dystopian coloring. The insignificance of most people in the grand scheme, the scale and scope of dangers in the galaxy, and the depth of darkness that any one being can fall into. There are very human stories written and even the most powerful are in the end...just human.
@palpat8431
@palpat8431 10 ай бұрын
3:53 "I was only told 1 per one million" I am pretty sure Luetin specified that this was the case AT THE TIME when psykers were first appearing, which happened long before the Emperor made himself known, let alone put on the Golden Throne life support that required said 1k psykers a day, something you missed completely when you were reacting to the video. Later on the population of psykers exploded into greater numbers. It's fine to nitpick but you have to at least pay attention, regardless if you just find nitpicking fun or not despite being wrong, because the point isn't that you're making a wrong conclusion but that you missed or misunderstood the information you are nitpicking to start with. "You all complain about nitpicks - get a fucking life" - so you're allowed to nitpick but I'm not allowed to point out the flaws in the nitpicking? Much wow. I'm joking, just so you know.
@ex-matter3192
@ex-matter3192 7 ай бұрын
That last part is kinda facts tho, his whole "rules are for thee, not for me" thing kinda just makes him look like a prick
@alexanders.1359
@alexanders.1359 11 ай бұрын
To ease your mind on the whole sacrifice thing: There is a whole fleet of "black ships" crewed by silent sisters that goes through the universe and captures psykers to sacrifice. A whole fleet of ships who only do that... Fulltime! Furthermore we dont really know if the 1 in 1 million number stands for all psykers or only those stable ones that get training and are in some form approved and allowed to live. So we don't even know if the sacrificed psykers are even counted in that number. In astartes the psykerratio is even higher. Pretty much every chapter has some form of librarians that are psykers. There are even some chapters or legions (before) that have been made up entirely of psykers. So I guess the 1 in 1 million number excludes those poor tortured and sacrificed souls
@totallylegit4092
@totallylegit4092 11 ай бұрын
Inquisitors are carefully selected and groomed for their role. For the most part they arent malicious and take their job seriously. That’s why he said the “moral dilemma”. The good ones walk a thin line of “I dont want people to just suffer”, while still knowing full well that some will suffer so that they can do their jobs. And their jobs is to prevent some very real and tangible threats to mankind. A heretic uprising can cause the deaths of hundreds of billions of people for instance. So in the books, they always have to walk that line…doing what MUST be done while not losing their souls basically.
@jeffrobagman2834
@jeffrobagman2834 10 ай бұрын
Most inquisitors start off pure of heart, then become numb because if what's needed to do the job, and many eventually fall. Gregor Eisenhorn is a great example, starting off pure, and he still thinks he's fighting the good fight... he'll, he IS fighting the good fight. IMO, some of the best 40k books. Dan Abnett is a great writer. Loved his first X-Calibur run too.
@4myzelf
@4myzelf 11 ай бұрын
Most of us also arent really attacking, just clarifying so that hopefully you'd get more interested so hopefully these clarifications help get your mind around it. Psychers became more common after a major event. Its not that hard to see if you just think 1000 worlds lose 1 person every other week or so
@TheInfamousRPGGroup-on-Rumble
@TheInfamousRPGGroup-on-Rumble 11 ай бұрын
As a new 40k fan, who GMs the 40k Wrath and Glory tabletop RPG, the "everyone is evil" thing is similar to saying "nobody's innocent" in The Walking Dead. Rick Grimes has killed people, but he's still less evil than Negan. The key is being able to tell the story of a protagonist who must live and survive in this awful world and walk the line of being relatable to your average reader, and being ruthless enough to do what's necessary to survive. So "everyone is evil" is more of a meme than a fact or truth of the setting
@TheInfamousRPGGroup-on-Rumble
@TheInfamousRPGGroup-on-Rumble 11 ай бұрын
Also I recommend the short film Astartes
@Ahw1231
@Ahw1231 11 ай бұрын
1,000×365=365,000×10,000=3,650,000,000. 3.65 billion not sextillion. Also as he has deteriorated it's closer to 10,000 per day sacrificed now. Either way you came into it with no knowledge. 1k per day does seem non sustainable in 99% of science fiction lore outside of the absolute massive scale of warhammer universe. In my opinion you caught on to certain parts of the lore much quicker than I thought you would with your extremely limited knowledge.
@ODDnanref
@ODDnanref 10 ай бұрын
Sorry you felt attacked and criticized. I can say from experience, most of the comments come from a lot of excitement of covering holes in the knowledge. So hopefully you don't take it a personal attack. The lore is so vast that we expect even the lore videos to miss tidbits of lore, and we like talking about it because it brings new perspective and possibly sprout new theories of what happened. The mechanicus call the emperor of mankind the "Omnisia". The Omnisia is the equivalent of Jesus to Cristianity. They think the emperor is not their god, but the flesh vessel their god (but is also their god) send to them so they might hain technological knowledge long lost and forgotten. Well, check the story if Ciaphs Cain. His story is an interesting one. a man that considered hinself a coward to the end, but to many was a hero. It is also a bit funny to recount his exploits. If you have the time to read them that is, you did say you had no time to read. Yeah, every human is shitty to someone. In warhammer it works because heroes have flaws and in this case flaws are amplified. It is a setting and here people have been dealt a shutty hand, so shitty decision are taken, and rhus even the heroes and thise thay want to do good, must do shjtty thibgs to save others. You lose your innoxence pretty quick here, so yeah, some stories are not easy to tell, but you can still tell them. The clasic tragic background hero? You can, in fact you have several options for enemies. Genestealer cult killed your perents, chais invasion, eldar, dark eldar, etc. You can touch upon the themes lf revenge and hate and how it can lead you into acting less than human, woth chaos. You can talk about eldritch lovecraftian stories with the warp and the fringes of the galaxy. King maker a story about assassins trying to replace the xurrent monarch with a new king. There ks band lf brothers story in there, and some funny ones with Brutal Kunning.
@biggshoverwelder3690
@biggshoverwelder3690 11 ай бұрын
22:50 Two of the sons just got destroyed right off the bat, within the original crusade/close to their discovery by the emperor, likely for being heretical, or extremely corrupt, and them and their legions are used for players to kinda make their own as nothing is known about them beyond that.
@IKMojito
@IKMojito 11 ай бұрын
Great stuff man, i think having that critical eye for lore is extremely important. If we never looked at what we wrote critically, warhammer would still be an 80s action romp with straight up stolen names and ideas from every other setting. Keep up the great work man, so glad to have found your channel
@xryuran
@xryuran 11 ай бұрын
The answer to the warhammer fantasy question is maybe. There used to be a place that was cut off from the 40k universe by massive warp storms that was hinted to be the location of the fantasy. But ever since the Fantasy universe had some world ending cataclysmic events , it seems like they have abandoned the shared universe lore.
@jonathanryan9946
@jonathanryan9946 11 ай бұрын
Technically, Star Wars Legends had a galaxy population of 100 Quadrillion (and 40k has at least this many too, probably way more), with 5 to 20 million sentient species. But Lucas then slightly retconned the scale with the Prequels to be much smaller. Which lead to many thinking it was much smaller. Anyways good way to distinguishe between Star Wars and 40k. The top dogs at Lucasfilm like smaller numbers but all the book authors realize Galaxy spanning civilizations are much bigger than that so fix these stupid choices. When 40k does the opposite, sometimes they put too many zeroes after numbers and then authors who know better have to give more realistic numbers (like we've had wars go one for hundreds of years, then others remind them many regular human characters should be long dead by then so the number gets retconned down to a decade). Star Wars kinda has a everything is canon system (excluding pre Disney content) but their are tiers of continuity system, with Disney its the Sequels are the most important tier but pre Disney it was Lucas's films. 40k also has a everything is canon system but all the story tellers are unreliable narrators. So old lore is canon but could just be less reliable, think "a certain point of view". As an example, there was old lore that The Emperor spit his soul and the part not in his body is called the Star Child which could reincarnate and he also had human child he was unaware of called sensai who worked with the Starchild. Now the Starchild lore is returning but slightly altered, so people are now wondering if his other kids could be too or if this was bad information from unreliable narrators, for example they could just people blessed by the Starchild (among other theories)
@dredgenauryx3382
@dredgenauryx3382 11 ай бұрын
The funny thing is that if I have not fucked up my lore somewhere... The Star Wars galaxy a lot bigger then the Warhammer galaxy... The math just really does not work out... What was it 6 million Clones in the entire Grand Army of the Republic? 20 fleets in the navy? those numbers are really small on a galactic scale...
@sovietcommubot
@sovietcommubot 10 ай бұрын
I found your nitpicking on the previous video great and I've liked several of your other videos, I'm glad the algorithm recommended you. It's true that the 40k universe is of course an absolutely nightmare hellscape but a lot of 40k stories are of people doing their best with the world they've been given. Also, I'd like to recommend the channel Oculus Imperia. His videos are in character as an Imperial historian discussing various topics. I'd recommend maybe his video on the Dark Age of Technology as perhaps a starting point on his content.
@The0Stroy
@The0Stroy 11 ай бұрын
About the number of Primarchs - originally, there were 20 of them. But because of some undisclosed "treason" or other reasons, two of them (2nd and 11th) were sentenced to Damnatio Memoriae, and any information about them got wiped out from Imperial records. Even their brothers were banned from talking about them (There is a scene when the Emperor's right-hand psyker Malcador, almost kills Horus with his powers, for even trying to utter the name of one of the lost primarchs).
@RedCascadian
@RedCascadian 10 ай бұрын
I love that Warhammer 40K is simultaniously the origin of 'just push the damn button!' trope, and also 'sometimes the toaster *will* get angry.'
@HamishHorizon
@HamishHorizon 11 ай бұрын
The Custodes aren't Space Marines so Bricky got that wrong.
@epyjacek
@epyjacek 11 ай бұрын
The golden boys are all unique works of art and superior to all warriors except the primarchs, with very few exceptions.
@mawdeeps7691
@mawdeeps7691 11 ай бұрын
@@epyjacek kaldor draigo
@brian6766
@brian6766 11 ай бұрын
Love the reactions, keep digging deeper
@pianospawn1
@pianospawn1 11 ай бұрын
The “point” of Warhammer (apart from being a fun game and hobby) is to satirize war, fascism, racism, religious and political dogma and a wide amalgam of other awful things in our world. Pointing out the absurdity of hate and violence, using this absurd fictional universe.
@anthraxcrab2222
@anthraxcrab2222 11 ай бұрын
Timeline of the 40k universe by trazin the infinite is something you should definitely watch
@Necroid9001
@Necroid9001 11 ай бұрын
18:30 You can find heroes and good guys amongst most of the factions who are great to root for. Its more the factions as a whole are evil/corrupt/bad guys. Ibrahim Gaunt, Caiaphus Caine, Nathaniel Garro, Commander Farsight, and Farseer Eldrad to name a few.
@crow6050
@crow6050 10 ай бұрын
04:50 1000×365×10000 = 3 650 000 000
@Gift_Of_Victory
@Gift_Of_Victory 10 ай бұрын
According to the numbers I ran, if you need 10 sextillion people in the galaxy to feed the emperor, you would only need about 100 times the approximate number of available exoplanets in the galaxy to support that number, presuming that you could fit 1 billion humans on every planet.
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