Far Leftist Demands Destiny To Condemn Conservatives In Insane Debate

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@MaxRenke
@MaxRenke Жыл бұрын
this person is so terminally online it hurts
@President.ballsdick
@President.ballsdick Жыл бұрын
He reminds me of most celebrities and half of the world unfortunately
@NidokingOtsutsuki
@NidokingOtsutsuki Жыл бұрын
@@President.ballsdick pov: you're terminally online.
@AnimosityIncarnate
@AnimosityIncarnate Жыл бұрын
​​@@NidokingOtsutsuki Everybody is. I go outside to do anything and most people are glued to their phones. The person I catch a ride with literally almost ran someone over because that person couldn't even bother checking both sides for traffic and had their face in their phones the entire walk. All parents at schools are on their phones. At doctors appointments, at dinners, y'all can't wait and talk to another human to save y'all's lives. Y'all are literally terminally online even when you touch fucking grass. Maybe you aren't, but the vast majority of people are now a days.
@anacc3257
@anacc3257 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a redditor or a twitter leftist who uses a script to repeat all the talking points and opinions that he's allowed to bring up by leftist authorities.
@LividLobster
@LividLobster Жыл бұрын
@@AnimosityIncarnate there is a difference between people playing candy crush and watching cat videos vs people who think there’s an active trans genocide and police are hunting minorities for sport. It’s a different kind of terminally online
@heyou2424
@heyou2424 Жыл бұрын
"Nazis like Kyle Rittenhouse" not even 5 seconds in and I already need to take a brake.
@daltonwade7908
@daltonwade7908 Жыл бұрын
No kidding, guy is brainwashed and delusional.
@DarkDevice
@DarkDevice Жыл бұрын
Well don’t take one of mine, my car won’t run well missing one.
@WanderTheNomad
@WanderTheNomad Жыл бұрын
The solution is to speed through it on 2x speed
@THE12D1E4
@THE12D1E4 Жыл бұрын
@@DarkDevice Now this is a COOL comment
@yololoyo7379
@yololoyo7379 Жыл бұрын
Hasan: every right wings are Nazi's
@carefulilickwindows6881
@carefulilickwindows6881 Жыл бұрын
I literally died of laughter when he said africa doesn't have technology... This kid is as "misguided" as Sneako 😂
@ZIbroweed
@ZIbroweed Жыл бұрын
Yeah... His international knowledge was probably even worse than his understanding of ethics
@Bat0541
@Bat0541 Жыл бұрын
It's the most hilariously meme tier "liberal white racism while claiming to be actively anti racist" it's wild.
@purpp-esque1711
@purpp-esque1711 3 ай бұрын
It took me long to realize a lot of left wing politics is just round about ways to conservative conclusions.
@sarinat3101
@sarinat3101 Жыл бұрын
Listening to Destiny's convos makes it so easy to understand how dictatorships happen all over the world. People aren't actually against them, they just want to be the ones in charge.
@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261
@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261 Жыл бұрын
@@SassanMedia I was about to make a bit of an extreme joke, but I remember I was already suspended twice…
@forkrhoades1953
@forkrhoades1953 Жыл бұрын
@@SassanMedia I was saying the same thing the other week
@HerculesOfHate
@HerculesOfHate Жыл бұрын
This is actually a fascinating point. The ideal society for the majority of people on the planet would theoretically be a society run by 1 godly being who is always morally and logically correct and makes only perfect decisions for the betterment of all people on the planet. Yet the reason we stray away from fascism and dictatorships is because that godly perfect person does not currently and will never in the future exist. However, if you were to ever to convince enough people in society that some charismatic person had ALL of their wants and needs in mind and only wanted the betterment of society and all they needed was the power to enact it.... POOF
@degenerateslikeyoubelongon4829
@degenerateslikeyoubelongon4829 Жыл бұрын
@@HerculesOfHate I should be in charge, I'm cool 😎
@Lin-ij9vk
@Lin-ij9vk Жыл бұрын
I see this both in the left and right where you start to realize that for a lot of people, there's no such things as bad tactics, just bad targets. The scariest part is that because they see the other as "literally Cthulhu Hitler Satan" they can do unspeakable horrors to others because "they are immoral and would have totally done these things to us. yes even the babies, especially the babies." genocide and crimes against humanity can come easy to a lot of people the momment you are taught to believe these "others" will do you harm and deserve not to die but suffer.
@elliottbradshaw6856
@elliottbradshaw6856 Жыл бұрын
As someone who is firmly on the right, and consistently being called a racist/nazi/transphobe, what have you... I agree with about like 20% of what Destiny believes politically and watch him all the time. Probably one of my most watched channels. If anything Destiny exposes me to left-wing view points that are actually thought out an not just virtue signaling REEEEE'ing. I might not agree with them, but I can at least listen to him explain them because he does so in a logical and thought out rational way, instead of finger waving emotional arguments.
@laisphinto6372
@laisphinto6372 Жыл бұрын
destiny is a fine lady that present a different view point with a possibility for discussion
@anthonyc5039
@anthonyc5039 Жыл бұрын
@@laisphinto6372 my favorite lesbian 😂
@Svf84
@Svf84 Жыл бұрын
Same here , my dude
@Zachary_Setzer
@Zachary_Setzer Жыл бұрын
So far he's the only one I have found.
@PriddyBoy1992
@PriddyBoy1992 Жыл бұрын
This right here. I even listen to the Young Turks sometimes. Again, just to hear the other side. But destiny is definitely the best speaker to present Left ideas that are thought provoking.
@Dimnd_Hnd
@Dimnd_Hnd Жыл бұрын
"You can't humanize them." "But they're humans." - Destiny. That's an amazing response 👏
@wilsonsanabia4259
@wilsonsanabia4259 Жыл бұрын
Incredible that we have to say this things on current year Jesus
@kristiansandsmark2048
@kristiansandsmark2048 Жыл бұрын
In the end when the caller started talking about putting people into camps, based on genetics... Not sure you want to use that line of argument bud. 😅
@72_archetypist
@72_archetypist Жыл бұрын
Considering the prominent personalities of this culture war, it makes sense. RWA's will dehumanize and Freaks love being inhuman and projecting upon non-Freaks
@michaelgoesfast1
@michaelgoesfast1 Жыл бұрын
Destiny is a lesbian
@Dimnd_Hnd
@Dimnd_Hnd Жыл бұрын
@@michaelgoesfast1 You're gay 🏳️‍🌈 which is ok.
@rustyshackleford6849
@rustyshackleford6849 Жыл бұрын
This guy has definitely pushed more Destiny fans further right than Sneako or Nick could ever hope to
@neowolf09
@neowolf09 Жыл бұрын
I'm not so concerned about people being pushed left or right as I am people being pushed authoritarian vs libertarian.
@lirolo8343
@lirolo8343 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a grown man and someone starts telling you who you are allowed to speak to and that you MUST stop being who you are 🤡
@leonseed4464
@leonseed4464 Жыл бұрын
@@neowolf09 true libertarian
@TheWhisperingPenis
@TheWhisperingPenis Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I started chatting up my conservative friends again during BLM and tons of people like this guy who just made me want to run in the opposite direction. Problem is, you stay around conservatives too long, at least the ones I was, and I found their was a lot of conspiracy theories they believe in, like they think everything is fake or against your rights. If I fart its against their God given right to breath clean air. So it gets weird over there too. I just kind of keep to myself and if I meet someone who seems cool I make sure to let him/her know im not political. If they go weird, then gg go next.
@Kikilee123
@Kikilee123 Жыл бұрын
He must be a Russian bot…. Right?!? Lmao This is a hilariously sad and terrifying peak into the mind of the new generation!
@nickwilliams2415
@nickwilliams2415 Жыл бұрын
Limiting speech isn't freedom of speech. The fact that he can say, "I'm not trying to remove freedom of speech, I'm just trying to limit what people can say," all in one sentence, and not realize how stupid it sounds is mind-boggling
@BeYeSeparate
@BeYeSeparate Жыл бұрын
He also says _"intolerance can not be tolerated."_ I say it as a joke, he apparently means it.
@jalenwalker8790
@jalenwalker8790 8 ай бұрын
@@BeYeSeparateexactly, it’s so absurd. He says that conservatives are intolerant and we should be intolerant to them. Like do you hear yourself?
@Roguecjb
@Roguecjb Жыл бұрын
"Lauren southern genociding mexicans" "She blew up a boat full of mexicans" SHE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
@randybobandy9828
@randybobandy9828 Жыл бұрын
She can and WILL keep getting away it.
@banqsterz8160
@banqsterz8160 Жыл бұрын
She blew up a boat full of mexican in the middle of the desert, she can't keep getting away with it
@MrsNeedlemouse
@MrsNeedlemouse Жыл бұрын
Next time it'll be "Lauren shouthern dropped nuclear bombs from an air plane in an innocent sudanese township"
@tonywoutrs
@tonywoutrs Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the south park episode where the Japanese blame dolphins and whales for their nuclear disasters 😂
@TacTicMint
@TacTicMint Жыл бұрын
Is there video of this totally badass act? Also remember that liberals are more intellectually honest.
@masztaarc
@masztaarc Жыл бұрын
As someone who has met actual nazis, this guy has their *exact* thought pattern.
@JD19928
@JD19928 Жыл бұрын
The debate about the impact genes play on left /right cultural values is not a new one and many people in the field think it is likely genes play SOME part so IF it is genetically "predisposed", and all people right-of-center are evil, as most left wingers today believe why shouldn't you throw them in gulags? based on there genetics?, he's just being logically consistent and coherent, his only fault was saying the quite part out loud,
@pinkside692
@pinkside692 Жыл бұрын
You don’t get it, he has to be a fascist dictator first so that the right wing fascists don’t take over.
@NachozMan
@NachozMan Жыл бұрын
Yep, different statements, exact same style of behavior and attitude. The amount of "IN THE PERSONS NATURE" and buzzwords this psycho throws around is almost as insane as he is.
@bobofrog
@bobofrog Жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@JAN0L
@JAN0L Жыл бұрын
I feel if he happened to fall into a different online community he could be one of Nick's strongest believers. Which is somewhat ironic considering his beliefs about genetic determinism for political beliefs.
@KillmanPit
@KillmanPit Жыл бұрын
I love how the caller is just one step from being nazi himself. What a guy.
@damona361
@damona361 Жыл бұрын
This comment is extremely understated
@laisphinto6372
@laisphinto6372 Жыл бұрын
Inazis International Socialist
@TNTspaz
@TNTspaz Жыл бұрын
Dude might have the nazis beat
@shdwfx40001
@shdwfx40001 Жыл бұрын
Is this guy a vaush fan? He sounds like vaush.
@petercselik5674
@petercselik5674 Жыл бұрын
He is already a nazi just not douing the same theme.
@kentontudor
@kentontudor Жыл бұрын
This dude could turn anyone conservative
@BadBigBody
@BadBigBody Жыл бұрын
Why? He doesn’t sway me in any direction. He’s just nothing.
@kentontudor
@kentontudor Жыл бұрын
@@BadBigBody In a nutshell, this guy embodies everything that the majority of the republican party loathes and why Trump happened in the first place. "We're better than you. You're evil. I will never bargain with you because you are less than human to me."
@nickwilliams2415
@nickwilliams2415 Жыл бұрын
Why is he so concerned with Destiny sharing conservative ideas if they're so bad? I want people with bad ideas to share them. Makes mine look so much better.
@331Dylan
@331Dylan Жыл бұрын
​@@BadBigBody I think wht he meant was, if every liberal sounded like that dude, rational people would lean towards conservative more. His reasoning and mindset embody what ppl generally hate about the far left.
@curtisw0234
@curtisw0234 Жыл бұрын
@@BadBigBody He's actively trying to convince people they are conservative if they don't agree with his extreme positions.that's the leftist shtick. The right wing is the boogeyman and if you're not further left than me then you are evil and i hate you. It's one big race to extremism. You can't even disagree with the extremist phrase "ACAB" without being attacked
@aj00
@aj00 Жыл бұрын
This guy is the perfect perfect example of what’s wrong with the left and left Twitter
@HistoricaHungarica
@HistoricaHungarica Жыл бұрын
How do you know he is left leaning? He had only 3 kind of political groups in his mind. Lib, “centrist” and basically nazi. Where are mah commies and anarchists and the others?
@jorgeenchilada
@jorgeenchilada Жыл бұрын
i'm sorry but Destiny saying how it being normal for 10 year olds to drive in certain parts of the country and 16 year olds to own guns, doesn't make it less retarded. Other than that yeah, online leftists are MASSIVE larpers
@beanybabyrabie
@beanybabyrabie Жыл бұрын
With a large percentage of the population which will only get worse due to them capturing and brainwashing the youth…..
@JacobthePoshPotato
@JacobthePoshPotato Жыл бұрын
God damn this convo made me so angry, it was like hearing a serial kill explain why sex workers deserve to die.
@beyondbackwater4933
@beyondbackwater4933 Жыл бұрын
What?
@R3IsL
@R3IsL Жыл бұрын
@@beyondbackwater4933 I assume he's talking about how serial killers talk about the sex workers they kill as if they have some inherit evil in them, some mental gymnastics that allow someone to do horrid shit in the name of vague beliefs.
@ToxicallyMasculinelol
@ToxicallyMasculinelol Жыл бұрын
yeah. would not be surprised if this guy is a psychopath.
@MrSpudatohead
@MrSpudatohead Жыл бұрын
This person is the reason it's so important to push back on the correct use of words. Calling Sneako "a Nazi" or "evil" and thinking those two words equate to "right wing" and "kinda, y'know, pretty fucked up" is absolutely insane. And Lauren Southern "blew up migrant boats with a rocket launcher", holy shit
@bestdjaf7499
@bestdjaf7499 Жыл бұрын
11:35 It's called Projection
@ChachiMcSwaqq
@ChachiMcSwaqq Жыл бұрын
Wait for it, he also says she genocides Mexicans!
@connerpaul9401
@connerpaul9401 Жыл бұрын
Its because extremists are never checked for their language. Notice how whenever he gets called out for extreme words he retracts them immediately
@westernartifact4163
@westernartifact4163 Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment. The insane one sided flexibility of his words is a slam dunk for the opposition; it's painful to not see it pushed back harder.
@mortekaieve4729
@mortekaieve4729 Жыл бұрын
This might sound “kinda, y’know, pretty fucked up”, but I’d pay money to see Lauren Southern blow up any boat with a rocket launcher. That would be cool.
@jeepguy518
@jeepguy518 Жыл бұрын
Lol this was epic,guy starts off calling conservatives Nazi's but sounds like he is one step from being ok with rounding up all of conservative voices and throwing them in camps
@bretts3057
@bretts3057 Жыл бұрын
Yea, ironically most of the people calling others nazis nowadays are closer to nazis than anyone they say is one.
@Stoptheliars
@Stoptheliars Жыл бұрын
That’s most of the liberals I run across. Stupid and calling for violence or to cancel someone. And then calling us Nazis and racist is laughable most of us are more tolerant than them with other races. I can hang out with anyone I just want less govt and unelected bureaucrats making stupid laws and regulations.
@RainbowRenegade
@RainbowRenegade Жыл бұрын
you mean do exactly what conservatives whant to do to trans people.
@beanybabyrabie
@beanybabyrabie Жыл бұрын
They’re the fascists and the threat to our republic.
@laisphinto6372
@laisphinto6372 Жыл бұрын
his constant talk about nature. "it is in his nature..."
@Josh17656
@Josh17656 Жыл бұрын
This guy is the perfect example of the problem with extreme echo chambers. He says these things that destiny just instantly debunks as if they're irrefutable or just obvious and matter of fact. He's never been challenged on this stuff before.
@zarny7955
@zarny7955 Жыл бұрын
Listening to this guy talk is a better endorsement of the conservative ideals than any of the people he wants to censor.
@reddillon8425
@reddillon8425 Жыл бұрын
in all seriousness he's probably a conservative guy trying to troll destiny.
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 Жыл бұрын
@@reddillon8425 Nope. He's a typical Hassan subscriber.
@lorenzomizushal3980
@lorenzomizushal3980 Жыл бұрын
What political side looks most cool? I wanna join that
@danilvoiko954
@danilvoiko954 Жыл бұрын
@@yarpenzigrin1893 I got strong vaush vibes also
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 Жыл бұрын
@@danilvoiko954 Yeah, that too.
@thisguystrats
@thisguystrats Жыл бұрын
Destiny: You're pretty extreme. This Guy: How am I extreme? Also This Guy: You can't be nice to conservatives, you can't even be friends with them. WTF😂😂😂
@BadBigBody
@BadBigBody Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t call that extreme. Conservatives aren’t good people, why be friends with them?
@johnrossi6189
@johnrossi6189 Жыл бұрын
Lmfao I loved how stumped he was when Destiny used the black people example to show how this guy is being hypocritical. The dude started sweating to not seem racist.
@mothpot
@mothpot Жыл бұрын
and then immediately stumbled into a directly racist line of argumentation lol
@johnrossi6189
@johnrossi6189 Жыл бұрын
@@mothpot Exactly.
@brusselseastside3546
@brusselseastside3546 Жыл бұрын
@@johnrossi6189 timestamp rq big bro im wirting an essay
@johnrossi6189
@johnrossi6189 Жыл бұрын
@@brusselseastside3546 Uh bro I'm done with the vid right now..I don't remember..Hold on I guess
@johnrossi6189
@johnrossi6189 Жыл бұрын
@@brusselseastside3546 I would say start at 11:30 so you can hear the entire context.
@TexasRigged
@TexasRigged Жыл бұрын
"Let's call everyone who doesn't agree with me a Nazi while I push for things an actual Nazi would do" for example shutting down free speech, ostracizing entire groups of people, call them evil, gas light them that they are predisposed to certain beliefs etc. This kid needs a big history lesson.
@pistolen87
@pistolen87 Жыл бұрын
The lack of humility and respect for democracy, combined with their self righteousness and conviction in their ideology is horrifying.
@CalKon87
@CalKon87 Жыл бұрын
bro when he said most people in the world support trans people or accept them I lost it
@rjrulz327
@rjrulz327 Жыл бұрын
Delusional.. he really just should stay out of politics and play his video games.
@chaserseven2886
@chaserseven2886 Жыл бұрын
​@@CalKon87 what?
@flipnskater
@flipnskater Жыл бұрын
@@chaserseven2886 ? Can't you read?
@hayvenb
@hayvenb Жыл бұрын
@@chaserseven2886 what?
@kyledodson2992
@kyledodson2992 Жыл бұрын
This guy could make me vote republican out of spite
@roehanostornsyn3367
@roehanostornsyn3367 Жыл бұрын
These goobers oughta be careful to piss me off in the next two years or I'll hit the Trump 2024 button completely out of spite
@idontgetthejoke4813
@idontgetthejoke4813 Жыл бұрын
These idiots don't know the difference between Trump and Biden so you can spire them either way lol.
@this-one
@this-one Жыл бұрын
sprite driven
@sabiro2315
@sabiro2315 Жыл бұрын
If your belief system is really that flimsy then that's your fault more than anyone else's my guy.
@kyledodson2992
@kyledodson2992 Жыл бұрын
@@sabiro2315 calm down Che Guevara, it was a joke
@vicenzaarce
@vicenzaarce Жыл бұрын
The fact that this dude wants to dehumanize, and get rid of entire groups of people, and then has the audacity to call others "nazi's" and doesn't see the irony or idiocy in that, is mind blowing.
@chungusamongus69
@chungusamongus69 Жыл бұрын
They all gaslight and project their own internal shit on to others.
@SlZIJI
@SlZIJI Жыл бұрын
The nazis didn't get rid of entire groups of people...
@Sad-mm8tm
@Sad-mm8tm Жыл бұрын
This guy is THE thing that pushes people further right.
@austiniscoolduh
@austiniscoolduh Жыл бұрын
wait a second.............
@Sad-mm8tm
@Sad-mm8tm Жыл бұрын
@@austiniscoolduh hold up
@phoenixfire8226
@phoenixfire8226 Жыл бұрын
@@Sad-mm8tm see that's how a bitch get'er eye swole up
@draaavennoxus668
@draaavennoxus668 Жыл бұрын
Yeah to be honest i feel more right by the second that he opens his mouth. Almost like that is his goal.
@genesisgryphon1582
@genesisgryphon1582 Жыл бұрын
Destiny owning this guy actually moved me left. But it's in my nature to be far-right, so back I go!
@navapaps1273
@navapaps1273 Жыл бұрын
this guy is blinded by his ideology to a level that is kinda very scary
@nick4754
@nick4754 Жыл бұрын
He would 100% kill for his ideology, granted I don't trust the average e-leftist to actually know how to use a gun
@joegreene7746
@joegreene7746 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Like he’s so blinded that I’m actually shocked that he isn’t being dishonest.
@vugolol
@vugolol Жыл бұрын
That's the average basement dweller reddit user in the call.
@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261
@suspendedtwice4sayingrasis261 Жыл бұрын
He would’ve tortured political dissidents during Stalin’s reign of terror. I think it’s pretty much “in his nature”… 😄
@UnderplayedCreations
@UnderplayedCreations Жыл бұрын
Nick Fuentes dreams that he can push people to right as effectively as this guy
@Raidur7215
@Raidur7215 Жыл бұрын
I don't think this kid has ever spoken to a conservative on purpose.
@Therhyrhy123
@Therhyrhy123 Жыл бұрын
he probablyt doesnt know a conservative in real life, just what he sees online.
@Tyler56866
@Tyler56866 Жыл бұрын
It feels like a lot (not all) of these very progressive types have never interacted with normal person before.
@BadBigBody
@BadBigBody Жыл бұрын
I don’t like the guy in this video one bit but I can’t really blame him for hating conservatives even if all he does is interact with them online. With the amount of support Trump has, even worse when you have extreme right wingers like Matt Walsh getting as popular as they are, and most conservatives you’ll see on KZbin and Twitter being psychos, it’s not an out there assertion to make that a majority of them are too far gone.
@paulchen6329
@paulchen6329 Жыл бұрын
@@BadBigBody yep, same thing goes for the far left
@antonioiniguez1615
@antonioiniguez1615 Жыл бұрын
@@BadBigBody Matt Walsh isn't extreme
@daaniyalahmad8628
@daaniyalahmad8628 Жыл бұрын
As a conservative, seeing destiny debate right wingers definitely stopped me from going further down the right wing pipeline and made me change some of my more extreme views. Deplatforming is not the answer, conversations are.
@uUuWolf16uUu
@uUuWolf16uUu Жыл бұрын
What would you say are the extreme views of conservatives?
@wilsonsanabia4259
@wilsonsanabia4259 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the club my man
@patternrecon5271
@patternrecon5271 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@ZeroNumerous
@ZeroNumerous Жыл бұрын
@@mycrazylife408 The right are in favor of deplatforming when they have power too. Deplatforming is a power vs powerless position, not a right vs left position.
@MaleTears
@MaleTears Жыл бұрын
@@mycrazylife408 bait
@notmyopinion4981
@notmyopinion4981 Жыл бұрын
As someone from Germany, it's wild to me that you guys call each other Nazis like that word has no weight to you guys. It's insane that he called Kyle Rittenhouse and Sneako a Nazi! Like this guy is unhinged af.
@01What10
@01What10 Жыл бұрын
The guy is absolutely insane. Sadly, his mentality is so common on the left.
@The92Waffles
@The92Waffles 5 ай бұрын
@@01What10 and the alternative is true on the right where they ignorantly call anyone left of center a commie socialist
@F34RDSoldier805
@F34RDSoldier805 Жыл бұрын
As a guy who hates far right and far left extremists, I wonder if I tell this guy, listening to him talk is turning me toward the right, if he would staple his mouth shut and never talk again. Because I think listening to this guy talk made most people in chat lean more to the right than any conservative that was on this channel has ever done.
@Iaksones
@Iaksones Жыл бұрын
He would write it off as "in your nature" and wash his hands of any responsibility for what he puts out in the world.
@stevenm732
@stevenm732 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t it also kinda ridiculous that you or others would be swayed in any direction whatsoever by this caller. Look for me I can pretty quickly tell if someone has any value to add and this caller sure doesn’t. Didn’t push me to the right as a reaction to him speaking though.
@beebah90
@beebah90 Жыл бұрын
​@@stevenm732 yeah exactly, it says more about people like the one who made the comment. If you're this easily swayed, you don't really believe in what you claim to believe in.
@madmonkeys88
@madmonkeys88 Жыл бұрын
​@@beebah90 I doubt it's a genuine change of opinion, more of a disdain and wanting to get as far as possible away from whoever the fuck this is on the political spectrum. Listening to him I doubt people will start becoming Nazis or lean towards them in any meaningful way, but anti whatever the fuck he is.
@TehwombatJS
@TehwombatJS Жыл бұрын
@@stevenm732 He didn't sway my opinion at all one way or another personally. I guess the way I'd put it is that it puts a bad taste in my mouth for people that would identify as a "lefty." It makes me sit here and wonder how many more there are like him. It bothers me because I would identify as center left to left and when I tell people that, people like this dude are who they're going to think of which is insanely frustrating. Also the fact that the dude couldn't differentiate something being in something's nature vs having a predisposition to something is baffling.
@peezman4289
@peezman4289 Жыл бұрын
“I don’t think humans are able to have some of these conversations” that idea right there is why a lot of people are moving towards being conservative
@Robisquick
@Robisquick Жыл бұрын
Especially since when people move over to the right side, they are embraced and treated with much more respect than the left
@garrettlink9090
@garrettlink9090 Жыл бұрын
It's even more ridiculous considering the fact that he said he is 20 years old. A 20 year old with limited life experience claiming that grown adults who have seen more, done more, and achieved more are "not equipped to have these conversations" but he somehow is, with his limited life experience is indicative of extremely unearned confidence.
@dame3323
@dame3323 Жыл бұрын
​@@garrettlink9090 Tbf some ideas shouldn't even be entertained. Should we really have a convo if gay people should be allowed to marry? Should we really entertain the idea that creationism should be in school? Should we have to talk about sex ed being taught in HS and not just abstinence? I'm not for banning them but come on lol. If you agree with any of those, I would gladly explain why I don't.
@garrettlink9090
@garrettlink9090 Жыл бұрын
@dame3323 well I don't agree with any of those stances myself, but we should allow people to voice those opinions. I find the idea that if we allow those ideas to be voiced then people will become radicalized to be unconvincing, in fact the opposite clearly seems to be true as we have observed people becoming more progressive statistically despite these people being allowed to voice their views.
@MrRhetorikill
@MrRhetorikill Жыл бұрын
​@@dame3323 yes we have to have the conversation about every single one of those things because talking is how we think as a culture and learn what's good or bad. If we didn't have conversations about these things none of the things you described would be allowed, because once upon a time they where considered bad.
@SimpleReally
@SimpleReally Жыл бұрын
"there are far more liberals in the world" LOOOOOOOOOOL you can tell this guy never ever left his twitter bubble his entire life
@ASSASIN7-sd5sr
@ASSASIN7-sd5sr 11 ай бұрын
there are trust me. thats why they win most of the elections in the world. its more sexy product
@jonesdaevilone
@jonesdaevilone Жыл бұрын
This dude's set of opinions are the reason I spent the last 4 years thinking I was conservative
@Jank_Hill
@Jank_Hill Жыл бұрын
The Overton Window goin crazy
@anonymouspreme3425
@anonymouspreme3425 Жыл бұрын
I get it now...I realize when conservatives talk about the left they aren't talking about me...the extremists on both sides are insane.
@ser7825
@ser7825 Жыл бұрын
What would you say you are now and what changed your mind?
@Smithistory
@Smithistory Жыл бұрын
Hopefully we can one day get rid of the left right spectrum. The four quadrants is at least a small improvement.
@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher
@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher Жыл бұрын
​@@anonymouspreme3425 bingo.
@daltonwade7908
@daltonwade7908 Жыл бұрын
It’s scary how many people there are that think this way and are so easily manipulated by media.
@Durzo1259
@Durzo1259 Жыл бұрын
The amount of woke talking points that mirror Marxist thinking is incredible, whether or not they know it. Nothing is more important than our ability to _think_ and _question_ , and neither of those are possible when a top authority gets to decide which thoughts can be discussed. It's mind boggling that these people think "we can let the government tell people what they're allowed to talk about because they'll definitely stop at the stuff I agree with."
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 Жыл бұрын
@@Durzo1259 Wokeism is ignorant neo-marxism. These people do not know where their talking points come from, they're just mindless parrots.
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 Жыл бұрын
@M S Yeah, it does but it's much more an online echochamber problem.
@seanmachlan3282
@seanmachlan3282 Жыл бұрын
@@Durzo1259 How many did he throw out there? I remember: -Riots are the language of the unheard -An attempt at, "It's not ok to be tolerant to the intolerant" -He called conservative people Nazis lol - Was there more?
@armondtanz
@armondtanz Жыл бұрын
Where u find these ppl. Majority Report viewers - Check TYT - Check Vaush - Check Hasan - Check Thought Slime - Check Jesse gender - Check
@simex909
@simex909 Жыл бұрын
"We'll just make it illegal to say things that are insane." WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG??
@savagecarwash5262
@savagecarwash5262 Жыл бұрын
It's actually insane how someone could feel so strongly about things they don't know anything about. Then have the audacity to claim they and those like them have "intellectual honesty." Destiny, please go harder on this kind of person. Don't let them laugh off such blatantly wrong statements.
@majbrittsvensson
@majbrittsvensson Жыл бұрын
How often is this repeated? Are we in a simulation or something
@workhardt8080
@workhardt8080 Жыл бұрын
You can thank Hasan for people like this. 😂
@majbrittsvensson
@majbrittsvensson Жыл бұрын
@@workhardt8080 or thank people like us for watching this
@drSvensen
@drSvensen Жыл бұрын
Heard one guy who said Rittenhouse should be executed for killing two black guys. He got pretty shocked when the facts were explained.
@bestdjaf7499
@bestdjaf7499 Жыл бұрын
These are Tankies. They casually talk about sending people to Gulags, or exterminating people who they consider irredeemable. That's why Destiny asked him, what would he do to the "evil" people like Sneako. Well, Hitler/Nazis were Socialists. * "TIK History" has a number of great videos about Hitler's Socialism.
@nymmaful
@nymmaful Жыл бұрын
Please have this kid on more often. It's really fun to listen to how willing he is to completely disregard the opinions of vast swathes of our society. In order to make democracy work we just need to remove all the dissenting opinions right? 😂
@matthall7359
@matthall7359 Жыл бұрын
Says the people crying about how they’re oppressed because someone challenges their views
@FriedWyce
@FriedWyce Жыл бұрын
@@matthall7359 stay ignorant stay mad 😂
@nymmaful
@nymmaful Жыл бұрын
@@matthall7359 I'm sure if the roles were reversed the left would be claiming its a genocide of some sort. 😂 But in all seriousness, I don't consider this person to represent the majority of left wing views. He sounds like he hasn't had a ton of life experience and sounds like most of what he believes comes from having a ton of uncritical conversations with people who already wholeheartedly agree with him. Its easy for the right to label all lefties as commie/pedo/groomers. It's easy for the left to label all the right wingers as Nazi/racist/hateful people beyond saving. We seem to be doing that more and more often these days. If it keeps going the way it is, it leads to worse outcomes for us all. I prefer to try to find common ground in conversations with people I disagree with rather than demonize them. It's amazing how much closer most of us are on a lot of topics than we think. Cheers. 👍
@matthall7359
@matthall7359 Жыл бұрын
@@FriedWyce I can smell the triggered coming off of you stop projecting and just accept most people IRL think you’re a degenerate 🤷🏻‍♂️. No h8, u can change whenever u want to
@anthonyhiscox
@anthonyhiscox Жыл бұрын
​@@matthall7359 screaming outside a building that people need to ban "hate speech" until the institution caves in to your tantrums isn't "challenging views." Nobody has ever "cried" about being "oppressed" because someone went up and asked a question or posted a response video or something. Also "crying" about being "oppressed" is beyond rich from the people claiming trans people are being *genocided.* I'd like to carry on but I've already said one word that YT might censor to protect your precious feelings, so no point adding more.
@thereplyguyreviews
@thereplyguyreviews Жыл бұрын
Its insane that Destiny was patient enough to last 41 minutes talking to this dude.
@Joseph_Soars
@Joseph_Soars Жыл бұрын
As a conservative, it's obvious that shutting down someone's speech won't fix a thing. And will only cause them to be further solidified in their stance, or "further right." Liberals are not stopping us. But that's the thing, we're not enemies to begin with.
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 Жыл бұрын
Deplatforming is very effective though, regardless of whether or not you agree with it in principle.
@Joseph_Soars
@Joseph_Soars Жыл бұрын
@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 Merely effective at proving those in powers' unearned self-righteousness. Pride. And a sign of the times, therefore, nothing more.
@TecTitan
@TecTitan Жыл бұрын
People feel like there's wiggle room for bad people to propagate bad ideas inside of the wings left open by freedom of speech. There was a literal national socialist bullshit thing near me on the news the other week. People with bad ideas trying to spread their message with the freedoms we allow them to have. However, people don't realize that the only alternative to this would be lawless violence. As long as they're allowed to speak their mind, they probably won't end up 'fighting for their lives' over it at gunpoint from the other end of the law. And as long as they practice this freedom of speech peacefully there is always room for them to realize they are wrong and to change their mind. If there's policemen surrounding their compound, they'll probably be hard boiled or entrenched into their position more fervently
@SuperSteph5
@SuperSteph5 Жыл бұрын
@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 All that will do is cause those people to create their own platform
@SensEnigma
@SensEnigma Жыл бұрын
@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 effective at what. Causing more extreme values. Doubting our constitution. It’s only effective in poking the hornets nest.
@3MrNiceGuy15
@3MrNiceGuy15 Жыл бұрын
It's funny because over the last few years I have gone from being labeled a woke liberal to a far-right conservative. But what's crazy is I haven't really changed my opinions all that much. It seems that the goalposts have shifted and it's because of people like this. They just throw these labels around so much that they lose all meaning.
@eddierabinovich779
@eddierabinovich779 Жыл бұрын
I know this is gonna sound corny, but I'm literally the proof as to why Destiny should keep being civil and polite when talking to right wingers, conservatives etc. because I remember that I used to watch some of his debates from time to time, and the ONLY reason I kept coming back to watch more as a conservative, was because he was making his (good) points without being an asshole about it. In fact, I remember it actually made me frustrated, even a bit mad that he was making better points than the conservatives. I'm sure that if he would have been a dick about it, there would have been a high likely hood for me to stop watching. Don't listen to this guy Steven, you are changing minds
@ts4gv
@ts4gv Жыл бұрын
he is kind of a dick about it though lol no need to hide it. we like the guy. he's a dick but he's not retarded. that's a good formula.
@sergiomendiola4611
@sergiomendiola4611 Жыл бұрын
Same, honestly. Was a bit right winged before I started watching Destiny. He just made too much sense and wasn't dishonest. Always listened to the other person without deliberately misrepresenting their position. I've definitely moved further left on a few social positions due to him.
@milomoran582
@milomoran582 Жыл бұрын
This but I'm still a race realist anti progressive. I just know much better than most what arguments don't hold up, where ideas and concepts are more at play vs less in play and just how the real world operates a little better, all from listening to destiny's takes and analysing the meta discourse.
@lewis123417
@lewis123417 Жыл бұрын
We have hate speech laws in the UK. Its a massive point of contention, people getting arrested for the most benign tweets or put on a "non crime hate register" literally a thing. Trust in policing has hit an all time low here because of the politicisation of the police.
@jalenwalker8790
@jalenwalker8790 8 ай бұрын
I saw a video of a child with autism who got arrested for “hate speech” against a lesbian woman in the UK. It’s absurd. For him to say it’s not a slippery slope is a lack of intelligence. What is hate speech? Who determines what speech is hateful or not? That’s the slippery slope
@lewis123417
@lewis123417 8 ай бұрын
@jalenwalker8790 ah I think I know the case your referring to. She said the police woman "looked like her lesbian nana" and she was arrested in her own home over it
@jalenwalker8790
@jalenwalker8790 8 ай бұрын
@@lewis123417 yep that’s the exact one I’m talking about. People like him call it “mild” restrictions but nothing about it is mild. In Canada you can be fined up to 250k just to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal. These “mild” restrictions create far more animosity than full on freedom of speech could ever do. Plus. Who determines what speech should be considered hateful or not? That’s a slippery slope. Is it hateful for me to say I don’t believe a woman can be a man and vice versa but I still see you as a human if you want to identify that way? Hateful or a harmful speech is subjective in most cases
@Rat-King27
@Rat-King27 8 ай бұрын
Ye it's a massive problem, Scotland has just bought in an insane hate speech law, thankfully the SNP are losing their support pretty quick, but freedom of speech certainly feels under attack in the UK, and none of the major parties seem to have freedom of speech as a major policy, they all seem to want to control speech.
@Vash284
@Vash284 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate convos like this because it highlights something I remember Destiny's touched on before. Way too many leftists refuse to engage with the other side at all, so whenever they do they're almost completely unable make their case. They're too used to yelling into their own echo chamber where everyone agrees.
@TBLUNTZ420
@TBLUNTZ420 Жыл бұрын
That’s why the Change My Mind videos are so popular
@noblenessdee6151
@noblenessdee6151 Жыл бұрын
far too many leftists don't research sht.
@UnbiasedlyPetty
@UnbiasedlyPetty Жыл бұрын
This caller made me think...."you know...Conservatives have a point"
@neowolf09
@neowolf09 Жыл бұрын
With him avoiding answering questions/points and changing subjects, I was impressed with how calm you remained. 👍👍
@ZIbroweed
@ZIbroweed Жыл бұрын
Destiny has a bit of a drama channel I think. I don't think this guys crazy positions would even phase him at this point.
@DarthMerlin
@DarthMerlin Жыл бұрын
I think it's absolutely disgusting that Destiny would bully a mentally challenged person like this...
@westernartifact4163
@westernartifact4163 Жыл бұрын
😂
@ZIbroweed
@ZIbroweed Жыл бұрын
He's 20 from the sound of it. If he was 40 and had these views I'd tend to agree with you but he's 20. He certainly doesn't sound like one of the sharp minds of our time, but give him until 27 before you judge him too harshly. He's probably average and has just had a fundamentalist media diet that told him not to question the dogma.
@1EpicMusic
@1EpicMusic Жыл бұрын
PLEASE NEVER GIVE THAT GUY ANY POSITION OF POWER, THIS GUY IS UNHINGED
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 Жыл бұрын
Positions of power are not given, they're either earned or taken. And that dude won't accomplish anything in his life so you don't have to worry about it. On a second thought, positions of power are given these days to the diversity hires and those people are always completely incompetent and often mentally ill.
@jiayojames
@jiayojames Жыл бұрын
Yeah absolutely. He thinks he's the good guy but I bet if he ever held any real power it'd be an unspeakably dark time, and history would remember him alongside all the other evil dictators.
@1EpicMusic
@1EpicMusic Жыл бұрын
​@@yarpenzigrin1893 my point was not that deep, was just to show that I belive he would be dangerous in a position of power, how is the position taken doesn't even matter
@ts4gv
@ts4gv Жыл бұрын
ok just remember to leave the same comment under right tards too
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 Жыл бұрын
@@1EpicMusic Now imagine that people with similar beliefs already have been given positions of power. He is not the only unhinged leftist.
@brandonreyes5883
@brandonreyes5883 Жыл бұрын
“When you go too far on either side of the politics, you turn into a maniac.” Prime example of it 😂😂😂
@tagop2
@tagop2 Жыл бұрын
People need to study prison culture. You can send anyone to jail no matter how nice or sweet they are if they keep getting jumped or beat up they will join a gang even if that gang does heinous shit
@NidokingOtsutsuki
@NidokingOtsutsuki Жыл бұрын
the ones that don't, kill themselves in a week.
@sicklesbrandon
@sicklesbrandon Жыл бұрын
This is kind of what I've been thinking for a while now. Politics is just turning into prisons politics. I think this is the unavoidable outcome of multiculturalism.
@Robisquick
@Robisquick Жыл бұрын
@@sicklesbrandon I never considered the parallel to the prison politics, but holy shit, you might be on to something with that. I've always had an issue with why the US is as free and has the structural capability of being extremely prosperous with great cohesion and strength, but the one variable I've always seen as to why there is so much freaking violence and chaos is that one cant be a superpower nation when there are drastically competing cultures with radically different ideas on how to organize society and what is considered moral. I'm not an ethonationalist, but I am a ethical nationalist, in that i want the government to be strongly pushing for a set of foundational principles that are almost a requirement in order to migrate here. Right now there are no foundational morals. Those are all being flushed down the toilet.
@jkdragonjk6895
@jkdragonjk6895 Жыл бұрын
As soon as he brought up the “voices of the unheard” argument it’s obvious what kind of person this is
@jkdragonjk6895
@jkdragonjk6895 Жыл бұрын
@Fast Cat I guess the idea is that black people are being fucked over by the system and no one seems to want to listen to there issue, or don’t want to reform the system, so they feel justified in commuting violent acts to force people to reform the system
@HereTakeAFlower
@HereTakeAFlower Жыл бұрын
@Fast Cat voices of the ghosts in his head
@ArthurHuizar
@ArthurHuizar Жыл бұрын
"I think you should be able to speak your mind." This guy: SOURCE???
@Fubbster
@Fubbster Жыл бұрын
Complains that you can't fix a person who gets off on being a contrarian and then proceeds to relish in the fact that the entire chat is mad at him when Destiny goes to the bathroom.
@lowellthoerner1209
@lowellthoerner1209 Жыл бұрын
"There are too many echo chambers, so we need to ban opposing viewpoints." - Dumbass, c. 2023
@yugoxgc
@yugoxgc Жыл бұрын
I love that his strongest counter argument to complete freedom of Speech is "You don't know if its actually good. You can't prove that". Does he seriously think that's a W?! 😂
@garrettlink9090
@garrettlink9090 Жыл бұрын
It's also completely backwards. He has to prove that limitations on freedom of speech are good, not the other way around.
@NachozMan
@NachozMan Жыл бұрын
@@garrettlink9090 This booty bandit needs to be put down, dudes a complete clown.
@dame3323
@dame3323 Жыл бұрын
​​@@garrettlink9090 I know what you are saying but a perfect example would be saying "fire" in a movie theater if there isn't one. That should be illegal. As it is. (in my state at least)
@garrettlink9090
@garrettlink9090 Жыл бұрын
@dame3323 it's actually not a perfect example. People always use that example and it's frankly ridiculous. Like how are you going to compare an example like that which obviously can harm people to some hate speech laws that many argue cause more harm than good? No you have to prove why it's beneficial to limit the specific kinds speech that you claim to want to regulate.
@dame3323
@dame3323 Жыл бұрын
@@garrettlink9090 Ummmm, think you misunderstood what I meant. I wasn't comparing it, using it as an example when banning free speech SHOULD actually put it in place. You are disagreeing with someone who agrees with you on this point lol
@caiohenrique4007
@caiohenrique4007 Жыл бұрын
This dude makes sneeko look reasonable.
@ezragoldberg3132
@ezragoldberg3132 Жыл бұрын
​@@jamsteroffthewheel4731 Yes
@conradkorbol
@conradkorbol Жыл бұрын
No lol sneako looks unhinged. This guy is also bad.
@LeLastMelon
@LeLastMelon Жыл бұрын
@@conradkorbol This guy is easily worse than Sneako, no question
@MMAGamblingTips
@MMAGamblingTips Жыл бұрын
They are both bad in different ways: Caller is a young gated community/yuppie utopian idealist whose views are well intentioned but unrealistic. Sneako is a straight up loud and proud misogynist, homophobe and anti Semite who has literally advocated for Sharia Law and has unironically simped for H!tler.
@stendaalcartography3436
@stendaalcartography3436 Жыл бұрын
Sneako is a weasel, but I wouldn't say evil. This guy is also weasel.
@bearfootball1
@bearfootball1 Жыл бұрын
I'm a conservative and I find it important to have in good faith conversations with people that have different perspectives. It's nice to see people push back against the use of these hyperbolic slurs and actually even try to understand the other side.
@ASSASIN7-sd5sr
@ASSASIN7-sd5sr 11 ай бұрын
all sides have radicals and idiots. liberals believe in no discrimination and thats why I am proud liberal
@regarded9702
@regarded9702 Жыл бұрын
I can anecdotally confirm that destiny engaging with right wing ideas has kept me from being a much more right leaning person. When your ideas are just suppressed rather than challenged it funnily enough does not convince you that you are wrong.
@TecTitan
@TecTitan Жыл бұрын
It can almost directly confirm a conspiracy mindset way of thinking. something like 'these are dangerous ideas and they want to shut them down because they are afraid and it is definitely true'. It's what people say when their favorite internet personalities get canceled.
@CalKon87
@CalKon87 Жыл бұрын
same here
@JaybLive95
@JaybLive95 Жыл бұрын
@@enrique2185 Protecting children isn't far right ideology.
@mcdallywacker8977
@mcdallywacker8977 Жыл бұрын
@@JaybLive95 Obviously, since they do nothing when mass shootings happen
@niftyp2320
@niftyp2320 Жыл бұрын
​@@mcdallywacker8977 like violate the constitution, which would disproportionately impact minorities, for what is a way overblown problem? The vast majority of mass shootings happen against minorities, but liberals only care when it's white kids or Whole Foods
@Eswarramesh2428
@Eswarramesh2428 Жыл бұрын
I like how mature and levelheaded Destiny is. Then again, the people he debates aren't exactly sensible nor reasonable
@pulpculturearts4274
@pulpculturearts4274 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I understand that sentiment however I think it's not categorically true. He is not infallible or a genius either ... but he is at least engaging more than perhaps ANYONE on earth... I think THAT is the allure to Steven... I am REALLY curious to see him talk with Dr Jordan B. Peterson ... AND PERHAPS TH WEINSTEIN BROTHERS... TALK ABOUT A DINESTY HUH DESTINY LOL ! TY FOR THE COMMENT MY FRIEND
@michaelgoesfast1
@michaelgoesfast1 Жыл бұрын
Destiny is a lesbian woman.
@Linkolod
@Linkolod Жыл бұрын
It's pretty easy when you're debating a 19 year old who hasn't had to synthesise or reason out any of their ideas
@tvnggg
@tvnggg Жыл бұрын
@@Linkolod last time he came on he said he was 22
@callmedeno
@callmedeno Жыл бұрын
It seems to me if someone I loved was in a cult, the number one thing I would want (aside from a case where they are literally captive and can't access external information or get away from the situation physically) is their leader to be televised in a debate with the best informed person who also is great at debates and speaking. There is not one thing more effective, with the highest chance of freeing most of the victims.
@bigpapi6688
@bigpapi6688 Жыл бұрын
This kid was exposed to that and something tells me he’s still in his cult
@daltonwade7908
@daltonwade7908 Жыл бұрын
This guy talking about people being delusional is ultimate irony
@CalKon87
@CalKon87 Жыл бұрын
bro when he said most people in the world support trans people or accept them I lost it
@TheKilogram1000
@TheKilogram1000 Жыл бұрын
This guy should talk to Daryl Davis. He can tell him about what's in a person's nature, and how unreachable these people are.
@jascu4251
@jascu4251 Жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons he sees people as unreachable....is because he knows HE is unreachable. In fact its quite likely he doesnt believe reachability even really exists. People with a very rigid two-dimensional view of the world tend to view things purely in terms of power dynamics
@TheKilogram1000
@TheKilogram1000 Жыл бұрын
@@jascu4251 I think the guy is just young.
@jascu4251
@jascu4251 Жыл бұрын
@@TheKilogram1000 This would definitely make sense. One thing I do wonder though is, these people with very rigid, reductive, two-dimensional views....I'm becoming less convinced this is particularly age-related. I think people 'grow out of' this way of thinking less than we think People grow out of certain views (whatever they are) but I think only if they have the capacity and flexibility to do so, gradually. Whereas very rigid people just swap their whole worldview for another one rather than growing out of views. Actually, I should just a different phrase, I prefer 'building on' rather than 'growing out of'
@thesingleandleastlonely
@thesingleandleastlonely Жыл бұрын
​@@jascu4251 I think he's practically the same as anybody else but much more extreme. Everybody wants to say "X person is bad" because it feels good. And if you have the ability to blame a whole group of people for a problem then you get to feel morally superior and feel like you have the solution to all of the countries problems, so it kinda makes sense he would think this way. Most people think about good and bad people the same way this guy does : just black and white.
@rohanjarande
@rohanjarande Жыл бұрын
Nah, this is exactly the white lefty that'll call Daryl "uncle Tom".
@musicalmikey8887
@musicalmikey8887 Жыл бұрын
It's just weird that he'd fall back on "It's in their nature." Then okay? Why censor them? If some people are just destined to behave a certain way, it shouldn't make a difference. The people who'll fall right will do so with or without the influence of others. Or if the concern is that the actions of people can push people right, and being exposed to hateful beliefs does that, then the conversation would have to shift to him explaining how censorship isn't a hateful action that pushes people in a certain direction. But he's just holding both of these views simultaneously.
@Walstiny
@Walstiny Жыл бұрын
This guy is literally unhinged lmao about as unhinged as not believing Destiny is a girl's name
@slimy6316
@slimy6316 Жыл бұрын
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@tiktokexposed898
@tiktokexposed898 Жыл бұрын
Isn't this the same dude from the last video? He really is insane
@michaelgoesfast1
@michaelgoesfast1 Жыл бұрын
Destiny is a lesbian woman.
@kalplays9922
@kalplays9922 Жыл бұрын
“His nature” Wasn’t it a bad thing to essentialize others?
@jascu4251
@jascu4251 Жыл бұрын
I think essentialization is in reference to a group of people. Like, for me at least, you can't essentialize an individual, you can only essentialize a group of people (even it its just two!)
@doobas2171
@doobas2171 Жыл бұрын
@@jascu4251 so we can do that about races?
@jascu4251
@jascu4251 Жыл бұрын
@@doobas2171 We can do that, and we do, thats the very definition of racism!
@doobas2171
@doobas2171 Жыл бұрын
@@jascu4251 so why is it okay in this case
@jascu4251
@jascu4251 Жыл бұрын
@@doobas2171 Its not okay! I'll use an analogy Like for example, you can take a gun and use it to shoot a dog in the face. Its not okay, but you can do it, it is possible You can't take a potato and use it to shoot a dog in the face, it is not possible My argument isn't moral, its practical.
@cfowler9789
@cfowler9789 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I start to feel apathetic about politics I remind myself that people like this exist.
@vthyaga
@vthyaga Жыл бұрын
“You can’t humanize them” “But they’re humans.” I genuinely can’t believe that I never really thought about how weird the “humanize” word is.
@vautry
@vautry Жыл бұрын
it is weird, and you can almost immediately tell you're in psycho/authoritarian territory if someone says that another person being humanized is in any way a bad thing.
@torihawthorne6732
@torihawthorne6732 Жыл бұрын
This guy is why freedom of speech is so important
@ZIbroweed
@ZIbroweed Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I really wish for a world where every college aged student got to formulate their ideal government and then had to spend the next 5 years living under whatever they came up with except that the person at the top turned out to be their political opposition instead of them. You want some limited speech controls and misinformation policing? You got it!
@bugsabc956
@bugsabc956 Жыл бұрын
​@ZIbroweed That's honestly a great idea. You can put them in the Snowglobe from Black Mirror to have 5 years pass in an instant just to show them how dumb they are. 😂
@brockandersen697
@brockandersen697 Жыл бұрын
“People who become extremists would have done so regardless of other influences.” “Lauren Southern inspired the Christ Church shooter.” Big D missed a prime opportunity to dunk on this kid.
@EdriczZ_
@EdriczZ_ Жыл бұрын
True. But she did. Pretty lame of destiny to toe-line that one.
@MetalTrenches
@MetalTrenches Жыл бұрын
This guy ruined his argument in the first 5 minutes when he said that it’s the “echo chambers” that lead to extremism. Hmmm… I wonder where those echo chambers could be coming from…?
@JacobthePoshPotato
@JacobthePoshPotato Жыл бұрын
Hearing a Prog unironically shitting on Africa was wild.
@orcanimal
@orcanimal Жыл бұрын
This guy casually supporting fines for speech is INSANE
@alastairthegreat2887
@alastairthegreat2887 Жыл бұрын
Yep, almost like he doesn't grasp that people he doesn't agree with will be in power at some point and in charge of what kind of speech would be fined.
@azraeldemuirgos9518
@azraeldemuirgos9518 Жыл бұрын
@@alastairthegreat2887 Exactly
@jesser.3702
@jesser.3702 Жыл бұрын
It was painful when the guy confidently rapid fired lies about Lauren to prove his point.
@randybobandy9828
@randybobandy9828 Жыл бұрын
And destiny just let him have it. He could have destroyed him
@H22prelude32
@H22prelude32 Жыл бұрын
Who is this bra1nless clown that destiny is debating?
@georgia8670
@georgia8670 Жыл бұрын
She sunk a migrant ship with a rocket launcher 😮
@liyanqil
@liyanqil Жыл бұрын
@@randybobandy9828 "let him have him" bro do you even watched
@randybobandy9828
@randybobandy9828 Жыл бұрын
@@liyanqil yes, he let him off on that point.
@mykalturner9695
@mykalturner9695 8 ай бұрын
imagine lacking self awareness to this level and having it immortalized on the internet
@Silverwidows
@Silverwidows Жыл бұрын
His first argument sets the tone. When you kick people out of stuff, they get mad and seek others in the same position. A 10 year old can grasp that concept
@shadowmasterp
@shadowmasterp Жыл бұрын
It also gets rid of any social pressure that they may feel to not go to far or the chance for a third party to introduce another view.
@matthall7359
@matthall7359 Жыл бұрын
“Y’all won’t let me yell racist shit so it’s your fault when I become radicalized” 10 year old mentality.
@Silverwidows
@Silverwidows Жыл бұрын
@@matthall7359 It's not one extreme to the other. I've seen people in my own life go from left to right because of the cancel cculture mentality of the left. Doesn't mean they want to say racist shit
@ffff7164
@ffff7164 Жыл бұрын
@@matthall7359 “BIPOC LGTVXYZ+ people disproportionately commit crimes because y’all not paying reparations.” - Every Twitter Leftist.
@perunalastu77
@perunalastu77 Жыл бұрын
@@matthall7359 The racist thoughts remain, they just won't ever get challenged.
@evanpatterson432
@evanpatterson432 Жыл бұрын
I love how he constantly goes on about conservative echo chambers, completely oblivious to the fact that liberals have echo chambers too, and also end up with opinions that would seem crazy to most normal people because of it.
@laisphinto6372
@laisphinto6372 Жыл бұрын
seriously what is the point of being a leftist? every single thing people hate about rightwingers the left does too right up to warmongering the only difference is justification. i never thought that leftists would support shipping guns to warzones or going very buddy buddy with the pharma industry. the rightwing excuse for their bs was always "patriotic" the left just says for "inclusiveness"
@jeremysellors9405
@jeremysellors9405 Жыл бұрын
This guy is crazy but “normal people”’s opinions arent a good barometer since they’re pretty easily shaped by mass media
@ZIbroweed
@ZIbroweed Жыл бұрын
Liberal is a total misnomer when applied to people like this. I get that the term is commonly used in the US for people on the left, but calling someone who thinks that free speech is a problem liberal just feels wrong.
@bigpapi6688
@bigpapi6688 Жыл бұрын
@@ZIbroweedreal liberals in the US agree with that too. Normal liberals like Joe rogan and bill maher have both said the same thing as you. What people like this caller should be called is a leftist
@ZIbroweed
@ZIbroweed Жыл бұрын
@@bigpapi6688 Yeah. We had to pull up an old term "libertarian" in the US after WWII because the term liberal had become so distorted that freedom lovers needed a way to distinguish themselves from the authoritarians who'd taken over the name. The amount of authority the government usurped around that time was insane.
@boomynote
@boomynote Жыл бұрын
Destiny actually made me LESS conservative by actually being a normal sane person on the left who is willing to have conversations. The majority of people nowadays are pushed to the right because the left gets too extreme and intolerant of any opposing views. “If you’re not with us you’re against us” type vibes, for EVERY issue. They moral grandstand and virtue signal and actively push cancel culture and shy away from real conversations. Destiny made me remember that not everyone with left-leaning views are extremists and even things I disagree with him on he is always able to explain his viewpoints and is also capable of understanding others viewpoints
@ltarmenia4ever
@ltarmenia4ever Жыл бұрын
Add me to that list. I'd consider myself part of the Dissident Right, but Destiny allows for nuance across the spectrum when it comes to conversations about worldview and is usually doing it in good faith. I've already had some things I've reconsidered as even when I don't agree with him, I think he raises fair points.
@krotchlickmeugh627
@krotchlickmeugh627 Жыл бұрын
Till you remember his stance on vaccines and mandates.
@spurezurko
@spurezurko Жыл бұрын
@@ltarmenia4ever and we have to remember that 90% of people are like that. Willing to get along and accepting different opinions. Most People around the world are politicaly around the center, moderate right or left. But this caller is the one who is 'othering' People and dehumanizing not only conservatives but People who don't share his opinions in general.
@Grotski
@Grotski Жыл бұрын
'i feel like you're gaslighting me!' - never been told they're wrong actual child
@tumtoes
@tumtoes Жыл бұрын
It's insane to me how people can't notice their "rule for thee not for me" ideas. They would probably argue violence is okay because we are "correct," but isn't it already understood at this point that it's permeating those ideas in general that's the problem? Or am I the only one that's noticed that time and time again in my life?
@BasedPoliwhirl
@BasedPoliwhirl Жыл бұрын
Deep down in their hearts they believe this, but they will never admit it openly. Just look at when Destiny asks "What should we do with people like Sneako?" "Well... you know... haha, well come on..." Progressive radicals like this are Stalinists at heart.
@doodoo871
@doodoo871 Жыл бұрын
It’s insane to me that people are as intolerant as the guy he’s debating is. He’s literally scared for viewpoints other than his to be heard. He is truly fascist.
@urielgloire
@urielgloire Жыл бұрын
30:15 This individual is uninformed. I'm African; before I came to the U.S. for college, I was playing video games and using KZbin like any other kid around the world. The most significant difference is the promoted ideology. Until 2017 (When I came to the U.S.), I didn't know about LGBTQ. It's easy to think you know everything because you have access to technology, but technology is more accessible than what Westerners believe
@MrMegas0315
@MrMegas0315 Жыл бұрын
I love how this guy is just a literal Nazi, and is endorsing eugenics. Love his take on the "conservative question".
@01What10
@01What10 Жыл бұрын
This guy is a total nazi but he is calling others Nazi's! It's totally insane.
@johnrossi6189
@johnrossi6189 Жыл бұрын
This guy is mad because Destiny isn't doing what *he* wants him to do.. Tell him who he should shit on more, as if the left is immune to criticism, and who to talk to, like bro who are you? There is a reason people ask Destiny to come to debates or their platforms and that's cause he actually talks to people and debates them instead of shutting them down. This guy is the worst kind of liberal, and I'm not on either side but if I was thinking of which side to join and I heard this guy, I would automatically go right instead of left. The irony of this guy is that he is worried central people who watch Destiny will go right because of the people he has on platform or debates against yet the way this guy talks about things or what his rules are is what's going to make most central people move right instead of left.
@daltonwade7908
@daltonwade7908 Жыл бұрын
Spot on, the guy is delusional and brainwashed.
@johnrossi6189
@johnrossi6189 Жыл бұрын
@@daltonwade7908 Exactly. We *should* be able to treat *everyone* as they are humans no matter what side they are on, and actually be able to talk with people who we don't agree with. The hypocritical/hilarious thing is the way this guy talks about conservatives is the way conservative talk about trans or LGBTQIA+ people, yet they all want them to accept trans/LGBTQIA+, the fucking pot calling the kettle black
@danilvoiko954
@danilvoiko954 Жыл бұрын
all true, hope the comrade will at least read the comments and reflects on them. But he'll prolly think that these are the destiny's nazi viewers showing face lmao
@johnrossi6189
@johnrossi6189 Жыл бұрын
@@danilvoiko954 Yeah it will be the 2nd thing you said.
@pepelechad536
@pepelechad536 Жыл бұрын
This guy is not a liberal. Literally, he is illiberal.
@thugspeedman7869
@thugspeedman7869 Жыл бұрын
This dude is literally the example hes asking for.
@griffiththechad9483
@griffiththechad9483 Жыл бұрын
The Left are truly sending their best here..
@BeYeSeparate
@BeYeSeparate Жыл бұрын
I used to say and comment _"intolerance will not be tolerated"_ as a joke because it, in itself, is wholly intolerant, with no clue that people were saying it and actually meaning it.. Sheesh, the one positive is there is only one way to go from here, and thats up..
@uUuWolf16uUu
@uUuWolf16uUu Жыл бұрын
Holy shit... This is literally the spiderman meme with leftist authoritarian vs rightist authoritarian. This dude literally applies fascist principles, just for the sake of his own principles. Seriously... people should be more libertarian so they can get along.
@Smithistory
@Smithistory Жыл бұрын
Politics is the new religion and just like in the old days everyone wants to burn the heretics.
@vugolol
@vugolol Жыл бұрын
People like that are the first to call themselves "antifa", but are the literal opposite of it, which is why so many people sees antifa as bad actors.
@synlion
@synlion Жыл бұрын
He’s unironically closer to what a real nazi is than sneako, lauren southern or kyle rittenhouse and doesn’t even realise.
@uUuWolf16uUu
@uUuWolf16uUu Жыл бұрын
@@synlion Thats because he is highly authoritarian. I think people can coexist as long as they understand acceptance of each other. Authoritarianism makes coexistance impossible.
@MrFuzziiWuzzii
@MrFuzziiWuzzii Жыл бұрын
As a leftist with libertarian social values (I feel it’s relevant to contextualize), it’s pretty infuriating listening to him basically using race realism adjacent ideology to prescribe essentialized qualities to groups of people not realizing he’s doing exactly what Hitler did. It was the crux of pretty much every argument he had, appealing to some innate nature in other people as if his nature is just inherently good. It’s inherently othering and moral high horsing. While ultimately I don’t agree with every Destiny argues, I really appreciate the role he plays in contemporary politics and de-radicalizing both sides. A lot of my research and projects in college were on censorship, echo chambers, and political polarization and it was obvious that the research shows algorithms are creating more echo chambers that create more and more radical ideologies as people are no longer exposed to contrasting beliefs. The research even showed that conservatives tend to create echo chambers more than liberals did already (likely bc of perceived biases of these platforms), so forcing them off major platforms and into their own corner of the internet only reinforces this.
@cratoic1603
@cratoic1603 Жыл бұрын
I want to thank this caller for giving us content. 🙏
@Beachhead13
@Beachhead13 Жыл бұрын
I have a friend like this noodle. He never left being 18, super edgy, and trapped in an echo chamber of lies. It sucks. This persinality is so toxic. I suggest you stop bringing on these teenagers. Its just a waste of video space, my opinion.
@MichaelTermini
@MichaelTermini Жыл бұрын
This dude is the living embodiment of the SOY meme in chat
@flipnskater
@flipnskater Жыл бұрын
Bleeds soy
@sabiro2315
@sabiro2315 Жыл бұрын
Never understood why the right still clings to this embarrassing soyphobic (lol) shit even in current year.
@-Azure.EXE-
@-Azure.EXE- Жыл бұрын
30:07 that is the most American stereotype thing you can possibly say about the CONTINENT of Africa. Dude is 100% American.
@NicheGreens
@NicheGreens Жыл бұрын
Wait, this guy claims that echo chambers are the problem, but says to remove conservative voices to get rid of echo chambers? What?!
@Tim-Eh
@Tim-Eh Жыл бұрын
You kinda just glossed over the part where he ostensibly said that people he disagrees with should be dehumanized. That's actually the foundation for basically all forms of discrimination.
@KeemBG
@KeemBG Жыл бұрын
Bro kinda comes off as secretly genocidal.
@areichental
@areichental Жыл бұрын
Secretly?
@bradspitt3896
@bradspitt3896 Жыл бұрын
This stuff is normalized on the left.
@SuperYungK
@SuperYungK Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this guy was arguing for genocide a few weeks ago.
@areichental
@areichental Жыл бұрын
@@bradspitt3896 lil man is straight up out of his mind. Dude would run the eugenics playbook on the right if given the opportunity with a smile. Yesh
@Dementia.Pugilistica
@Dementia.Pugilistica Жыл бұрын
Just like vaush "murdering conservatives isn't morally a problem because it makes the world a better place. They're evil. Tolerance of intolerance means we should murder you too"
@charlesmcclung8115
@charlesmcclung8115 Жыл бұрын
This guy thinks every person in Africa lives in a mud hut lol and has no access to phones.
@yannickoudeheuvel9453
@yannickoudeheuvel9453 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't this guy's whole argument that people will end up going far right anyway regardless of what you do? But then in the next breath he is saying destiny can't platform Lauren Southern because some fans might end up going far right when otherwise the wouldn't have?
@savagecabbage138
@savagecabbage138 Жыл бұрын
lmao this dude thinks luaren southern actually sunked a migrant boat, i CANT
@mrmistyeyed_
@mrmistyeyed_ Жыл бұрын
I love how he claims majority of the world is liberal and then just says "Africa's got some crazy shit goin on" so he's able to disregard an entire continent.
@magfromrags2873
@magfromrags2873 Жыл бұрын
This guy is so interesting to hear confessing his bias, I appreciate your backbone Destiny.
@magfromrags2873
@magfromrags2873 Жыл бұрын
8:47 I had to tap out.
@clivedoe9674
@clivedoe9674 Жыл бұрын
Every single day, a new teenager "discovers" an enlightened way to destroy freedom via fascist policy decisions and thinks they're the first person to ever have that idea.
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