Farmall Super M Rebuild Ep.32: Water Pump - Input Shaft - Shift Rails & Top Cover Goes Back On

[@josephwarner8349]

So far, everything both you & senior do make sense and shows you use your knowledge & experience. Fun to watch and learn.

[@markhull1366]

Toby makes better looking home made gaskets than some factory ones I've seen. What a work of art they are.

[@leeharris3061]

I agree 👍 on that ...ive tried makin gaskets on my own and NEVER look as good as his do!

[@ralfie8801]

Lee Harris It’s tough to do, even when you have all of the hole punches and cutting tools to do it with.

[@stephenjordan5672]

Hey Squatch! Don't apologize for the way you are particular in they way you do things. YOU DO THEM RIGHT!!! Many guys nowadays don't even understand how machines even work, much less work on them. , I'm a sheetmetal worker by trade, and most guys I work with Don't even change their own oil in their vehicles, or do any maintenance on their lawn care equipment. Btw, I'm the guy who asked you about a CAT 1956 977D , that my neighbor was going to give me not too long ago. Keep up the content!

[@bulwinkle]

Thank you once again allowing us to hang out in your shop with you. It is always informative and a pleasure.

[@matthewnasci2646]

Excellent comprehensive explanations and demonstrations not only of the functioning of the components but the rehab work being done. A pleasure to watch. And a priviledge. Thank you sir.

[@bigmikex2333]

You guys do great work!....very thorough. I have found two things that help a lot with old rusty stuff. 1) brush on bead liner. I use it in battery boxes and on foot tread/plates where traction and lack of rusty is more important than color. 2) Ospho phosphoric acid(the active ingredient in rust converters) made by Skyebrite and sold through hardware stores. Turns iron oxide into iron phosphate and can be used in place of primer.

[@raincoast9010]

Very interesting to get the tour of the transmission gears and their operation.

[@ronzezulka6646]

Your way of doing things seems pretty damn effective,,,so preach away while some of us learn.

[@brokenwrench1]

what i love about the H and M series is you can fix the transmission without breaking the tractor in two and fix it in the field.i was sent on a service call on a M with 9spd turning 70HP with the M&W engine kit and crankshaft. it shattered the drive coupling and ruined the input shaft to the trans this wrecked a lot in the trans so my helper and i field repaired it in one day. it was in the middle of a very wet field with a 14ft disk on it. no way to move it . so we fixed it and drove it out of the field. the owner was so happy and we got a bonus that week. the shop labor rate was $12/hr per mechanic. those were the days

[@JeffsFreedomGarage]

@Squatch253 - Please tell Squatch Senior thank you for showing how a grease bearing tool is supposed to be set up. I bought one years ago without an instruction manual, (bought it before the internet became popular), and hated how much grease it took to fill the bearing. This whole time I had it put together wrong.

[@michaelwest4325]

My Cub lived near the ocean so it has that deep salt air corrosion. My plan is to take it all the way and back. You and Senior inspire, illuminate and educate. Thanks again.

[@markroberts2822]

your enthusiasm is infectious

[@vonRow]

Awesome! I was waiting to see how those forks were set up. A lot simpler than I expected. Thanks for laying it all out and going through it. AND for filming and sharing it with all of us. Mighty fine work! On a side note, I had my '49 M out and about today. It was shifting through the gears just fine now that I brazed up the worn bit on the foot of the shift lever. I could probably add a little more material to the side of the foot, but it's working well. My brother and I also machined up a new swivel rod and pin for the shift lever too. They were seriously wore out. Even a little bent.

[@jackmehoff1565]

I love these double videos learn a ton in one video from two different minds thanks

[@haydenc2742]

Oh yeah...having it shift over part way thru is very entertaining

[@ronaldkearn3322]

Dear Senior and Son I am so loving this project you can't believe. 253 and Senior are genius's I cant believe how complicated this is. I is a blessing that your expertise is so necessary for this project. Bless you men. I am loving it. :-) :-) :-).

[@Ihbinder14]

I like the organization, y’all pick what you want to work on and get it done, I am very bad about needing to do 20 different jobs and find myself just jumping all around!

[@bobpaterson1845]

Great video again 👍 from Senior an Son , love the attention to detail, when the gear rails were gettin loosened off just knew that new foldover locks would be mandatory 💪💪

[@1crazynordlander]

Senior is going to beat you to the finish line with his Super M. Nice of you to help him out. Can't wait to hear it run. Thanks for sharing and always a full watch and a thumbs up!

[@rebelyank6361]

@Tsunauticus III They are both working on the same M. He is talking about this M and Squatch's own D2 rebuilds.

[@nickhayes9222]

I really like this series. I can appreciate your obsessive attention to detail.

[@alanharney5278]

Squatch: "This one isn't a perfect 90 degrees but it's ok". Me: *facial muscles twitching spastically*

[@pville5548]

I've adopted many of Squatch's techniques, and damned if that eye twitch shows up whenever the fold over locking tab doesn't line up to 90 degrees. Must be the learning going on.

[@regsparkes6507]

I too use a bearing packer tool like Senior has,...mine is made by Lisle, in case anybody was wondering what to look for. These little tools sure do come in handy. BUT make sure all bearings are well packed when you remove them from this 'jig'. Lisle makes all sorts of tools to help with projects,...sold almost everywhere! Nice work Gentlemen,..tedious but interesting all the same,...always!

[@56PapaBear56]

The success of any project is always in the details

[@ahillbillyredneck2375]

Wish I could find the time to rebuild like you are doing! One of my customers offered me an old Farmall tractor for free last week if I promised to rebuild it. Breaks my heart to tell him I don't think I would be able to find the time to do it. It was bought brand new by his dad back in the 50's (I believe is what he told me) and was used on their farm it's entire life.

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

A good alternative to sand blasting and a whole lot less messy and that is a needle scaler. Very effective at crusty rust removal.

[@whathobogrohknows]

LineshaftRestorations that would work but I don’t think squatch would use it because it might be hard not the castings it also will pound martial into the cast other than a sand blaster which is more like a wire wheel, in my opinion I would just use a wire wheel and brush.

[@ralfie8801]

Even though the area he blasted will be hidden by the battery box, i don’t think he’s looking for the finished profile the needle scaler would leave in the cast iron outside of that covered area. I’d prefer the “as cast” look myself, and sand blasting maintains that cast profile in the metal. So I’m thinking the sand blaster is the better option here.

[@paulsullivan6392]

I admire the skill level of both Squatch and Senior and I am especially impressed with the level of methodical detail to make sure things are correct. It is a true pleasure to watch you two work.

[@greggpaul8053]

Great video! Thanks for helping me out with my mta water pump!!

[@thesearcherman6652]

WOW. Tractors and dozers are labor and parts extensive to rebuild. A lot of time and money compared to an auto. Thanks!

[@seniorelectrician6831]

Thanks for showing gears

[@glovishowell7794]

Watch you religiously and lov'm all!

[@greenmule4634]

great video Squatch and Sr. job well done , she will be near new when done, thanks for the video

[@gordbaker896]

Nicely Done. Wire Wheels polish the surface where media blast gives a proper anchor pattern for coatings. I thought you might put some filler in the pitted battery box area.

[@turbo_veryfast4388]

Squatch I like the way you do things!! I have the saying,There's a reason for my madness.😊 I would also say I will be never disappointed watching the videos I can't say that by other KZbinrs.

[@danieledwards1081]

All that work to fix an engine knock 🤣😁 love it

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

......there's always that one bolt, but hey you got all those perfect 90's lined up, and you take your victories where you can..!! Like the meticulous planning and work both of you are putting into bringing the Super M project through and slowly the build is coming to a right finish. About the battery, I think to put 2 or 3 paddings between it and the top metal cover and will also keep rain water/moisture off the top.

[@raincoast9010]

Good Job T and Sr.

[@jbj27406]

That was an amazing, first hand explanation of how a manual transmission works. I'm sure this is just about as fundamental as they get, but even the most exotic manual transmissions probably use the same fundamentals. I always knew how they worked theoretically, and have seen the insides of a few, but this was unencumbered enough without synchronizers and everything, that you really have a good sense of how it works. And your diagnoses of the issues that are produced by wear in various places rang like a bell when you said your transmission howls in first through fourth, but is quiet in fifth gear. This is why an actual mechanic knows more about your stuff than you do just by hearing it. I wish you would figure out a way to give the same explanation somehow using the shifting mechanism with the cover off the gear box so we can see how the shifter works. Thank you.

[@lwilton]

Yep, manual transmissions are pretty much all like that, just size and the number of countershafts vary. And synchronizers of course, but those are just little weak spring-operated clutches. Automatic transmissions are considerably different. No sliding gears, it is all done with brake bands and clutch packs. Basically all of the possible speeds are in mesh all the time, but one gear for each speed slips on the shaft. A clutch between the shaft and the gear is applied to shift into each gear. If you want to know some more, look up the "Precision Transmission" KZbin channel. They have lots of videos on transmission teardowns that will show all the parts.

[@rickyjessome4359]

Great video guy's. Love your work ethic

[@michellehoefer5922]

Thank you for the video.You and your Dad are impressive with attention to details.Tickled me when your Dad threaded those bolts in "so we don't lose them! ".Yeah, right!

[@dearanel936]

I love it when a good plan comes together

[@bigears4426]

Well designed little driveline

[@daviddobson8933]

She is looking good.

[@garyfeltus9801]

Great video as always. Very informative. Everything you and your dad do are so perfect in every way. Better than when it was new. Can't wait to hear run again.

[@donaldwhite2744]

So Toby, the C and Super C pull a lot better in road gear as the pinion and ring gears are driven from the bottom shaft, so road gear is geared down on them. Thought I'd mention the difference where road gear on the H and M is straight though. Hope this helps some folks.

[@MirceaD28]

Super nice video. A pleasure to watch. Use stainless steel bolts and nuts so that they don't rust.

[@haydenc2742]

They are going for minimal expense recondition on the tractor

[@MirceaD28]

@@haydenc2742 I know, but they are not expensive. Plus, in the future, having a bolt that is not rusted shut, is better.

[@JamesJones-gk5jd]

253 you and senior are the best on the tube

[@lukestrasser]

Squatch, putting the top cover on with such care and precision makes you wonder how they did it at the factory on the production line. Surely they had some way to mate the top cover to the gear case in about 30 seconds. At any rate, the back end of that Super M sure appears to be in stand up shape. Also not note, interesting that the ring and pinion is a bevel gear vs a hyphoid. Cheers!

[@wolley2012]

Nice flex with the 4 piece gasket.

[@wsbrand]

We don't have to do things the way that you do them, but we aspire to.

[@horacerumpole6912]

Excellent video!!

[@coleenlofgren6385]

I agree 100% with you about sand blasting assembled machines, I will not do it ! Mark

[@aserta]

27:14 for future refference, you can fill those holes up with butyl almost all the way up, then put some bondo (or however it's called) and then paint over. Won't fill with water, won't rust, easy to remove, should resist to wear and tear of traffic, unless you just happen to put a nail through that one spot where they are.

[@nduncad686]

Next time you have to make a fold over lock could you show how to do so I'm fairly new to work on old tractors and love to learn all I can

[@ra5gto]

You should do tractor restoration and repair instead of Ford dealer repair. Your degree of skill and experience is very valuable to anyone wanting their machine fixed correctly. Don't be afraid to charge max rate and make all the money you can handle.

[@ra5gto]

@@squatch253 I think you just need the right client that appreciates quality and agrees to your shop rate, there are no budgets or estimates for perfection. You pay what it costs. The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

[@rick_.]

Always enjoy your videos. You did skip over more of the detailed work than usual, and I do understand the camera adds a huge amount of time to getting anything done. But more detail is always better! Not complaining, just letting you know my thoughts on such matters.

[@SAM-zy2ps]

The M, W, O and I series all shared the same transmission cover. The extra non-tapped bosses inside the transmission cover are for seat bracket mounts for the W, O and I series. I am on the opposite end, I have all Orchards (O series) so the forward most holes are not tapped on my covers.

[@Ham68229]

Wouldn't a "flapper" wheel help remove most of the pitting? For the recessed holes, it's not original but, we'd used rubberized flat washers with a bit of sealant on that. Great work. Can't wait to see the Super M finished and running again. Cheers :)

[@dtec30]

is there a notch maker for the gasket diy looked pretty good

[@stevesykes4527]

I BOUGTH AN 8 N FORD TRACTOR AND PLAN TO CHANGE THE TRANSMISSION OIL IN IT ,SHOULD I RUN SOME KIND OF CLEANER THROUGH THE HOUSING , IF SO WHAT KIND AND WHAT KIND OF TRANSMISSION OIL SHOULD I USE . THANKS STEVE

[@stevesykes4527]

@@squatch253 THANKS INFO VERY HELPFUL

[@jankotze1959]

My Super A gears hang up, I found the slides for gears selectors were broke off, I managed to repair it and still hold on, yet to order new ones from Steiner but living in South Africa it is expensive

[@waltermattson5566]

Thank you for showing and telling us what the problem is with your H transmission. I hope you have time to fix it soon. Are the transmissions supposed to be silent on Ford 8n and 9n’s too?

[@scotthanson7888]

Great video. The "interlocking joint" on the home made gasket is new to me. I have always just butted the connectioned, and used xtra sealer and hoped for the best. Could you spend time on the interlocking joints ? Hoping for the best often dosent work for me.

[@fowletm1992]

Caterpillar in a few applications use a puzzle peice type joint to join gaskets They don't work as well as solid gaskets but they sorta work The 3516 sump gasket is the most common one that haunts me It's always the first job on any truck that makes it's way in

[@bcbloc02]

A lot of work rebuilding an old tractor. You know that old h will run your lifetime with those howling gears no problem. You could just leave them as part of its story.

[@raincoast9010]

I wonder if you will coat that battery box area with tar or undercoat and stick a rubber mat to it or some such?

[@SandBoxJohn]

Just me thinking, it would seem to me that you would fill the corrosion pitted area with body filler to allow the standing water to shed and or dry off more quickly.

[@ludditeneaderthal]

Love the dolls head gasket joints, first class craftsmanship! Rookie question about those through hole top cover bolts (that you sealed the threads on): would one be courting disaster by making "sealing washers" out of, say, roofing membrane, to place under the flat washers, as a "belt and suspenders" backup to sealing the threads? I know, heretically unoriginal, but would it be a workable, functional mod? Or would one be risking forming a slow draining bathtub hellbent on contaminating your gear lube?

[@dangerrangerlstc]

Question you may have covered previously, but how do you make your new lock tabs and out of what material? Where did you get the material from?

[@bcouri1]

if i ever saw a time to own a needle scaler, it was looking at that battery spot

[@lwilton]

Did you put sealant under the heads of those recessed bolts? It looks to me like they are little water traps that can turn themselves into artisan wells and accumulate rust all down the shaft of the bolt.

[@lwilton]

@@squatch253 I heard you say you sealed the threads. I was just wondering about water pooling above that sealer along the length of the bolt.

[@weirddeere]

The thru bolts on the top cover that you sealed, I've run into the oil wicking up problem as well. I used teflon pipe sealant, what did you use? The Permatex Ultra Black?

[@jonathanstancil8544]

If I read the codes on the plate right, by memory, the M is a 1953. Battery under the seat and not an M-TA? Interesting. Is it factory live hydraulics?

[@PeopleAlreadyDidThis]

Factory live hydraulics used a cubical hydraulic control unit under the fuel tank. Since it is about the size of the older under-tank battery box, they then created the battery-box seat support on the transmission. It’s a handy field spotting clue; if an H or M has the old seat support, with battery under the tank, you can be pretty sure it doesn’t have factory live hydraulics-assuming it’s still in original configuration. I’m rusty on the various “stage I, stage II” type nomenclatures, but as the Super H and Super M were modified in production, approaching their “number series” replacements, live hydraulics became available. “Supers” initially had only larger engine displacement and disc brakes (and a list of more minor durability upgrades), but still used the transmission-driven belly pump. Then came live hydraulics, with improved timing gears to handle the pump load. That was the end of development for the Super H, but after the Stage II Super M came the Super M-TA, which gained the torque amplifier and independent PTO. So, it went: •M, band brakes, C248 engine •Super M, disc brakes, C264 engine •Super M stage II, added live hydraulics, moved battery under seat •Super M-TA, added TA and independent PTO

[@tinkerinbruce6560]

I have a Farm all M apart and I am replacing the seals that go into the transmission. The question I have the one on the bottom the shaft that drives the lift all pump how do I get the coupler off of the shaft? It seems to be threaded.

[@tinkerinbruce6560]

Squatch253...yes it does. When I get my brakes hooked back up I should be able to lock up the tranny and spin it off. Thanks for responding!

[@whathobogrohknows]

I’m wondering what you work on the Dana axle from the 70’s when you work on the brakes do you reuse those fold over locks or buy a new one? Great video

[@lowrollins1076]

Do you have a P.O. Box I can send you a gift to? I don’t want to give away what it is, but its right up Squatch Seniors alley. I’m Thoroughly enjoy your videos and attention to detail!!!

[@darrenblattner2508]

Ok son, now you have my eyelid twitching. I am rebuilding my 1020 John Deere (gas) i ordered a speedy sleeve for my front engine crank seal. It was a 1/4" longer than needed. What did you do with yours? I put my front pulley in the milling machine and cut it back to the edge of the pulley bevel, some fine emery cloth and its blended nicely. Now rather than having a sharp edge I can use the original bevel so as not to cut my seal installing the front pulley. This is the first speedy sleeve I have even used and I'm wondering if there all are like this? I am a welder not a mechanic so i find your videos very helpful. Thanks and keep smiling.

[@jamesaller9523]

Hey sqautch how do you free up a hub on a water pump farmall h to lessen it up

[@gregoryschmitz2131]

Get it on so you don't have to look at those two really bad fold over locks on the ones not re-done. Never thought I would see the day. Is there a meteor about to hit us?

[@horacerumpole6912]

Two coats of POR-15 would go a long way in protecting the pocked cast iron deck area-

[@scruffy6151]

👍👍

[@DavidJohnson-ut9kn]

We’re’s the ol x253 crawler? Do you still have it?

[@Bodi2000]

Did you get the seal number aligned perfectly by design or accident? I have seen that you go pretty far with details but that seems over the top.

[@theoldman8877]

How does it work ? Does Making two videos increased the monitization ? If so why combine ?

[@haydenc2742]

Gets more eyes on...people seem to like the shared videos and the split make the video's much more interesting

[@neilshep50]

@@squatch253 So I've got to go cold turkey on my D2 rebuild addiction?

[@ihus9950]

👍

[@notajp]

Is it just me, or is the video quality suddenly much improved? At least in the transmission sequences. Did you get a new camera? It’s so sharp and clear, it feels like we are standing right there beside you!

[@evankibbe590]

Sweet . 😊🇺🇸🍵☕🥓🍳

[@ericlakota6512]

In deep how to rebuild supper m its funny ive ben driving buy a M.D for last ten years thinking id love to grab that one day but its ben siting same place 20 years its got graps all around it but it was real nice he parked it because poney tank and it was just used for pulls but gave it up but as much as i like clasics from 60s 70s some late 50s id like having that M.d

[@anderleof]

Did you find the cause/reason for the rebuild?

[@scottgm321]

It was the oil pump shaft.

[@vincentburrowes9243]

Why do you always use SKF Seals and not the OEM seals?

[@vincentburrowes9243]

@@squatch253 Thank you for your detailed reply - much appreciated

[@ericcorse]

Do you what the L stamped into the cover next to the IH logo is for? You probably aren't old enough to remember this but I bet you would have gotten a % on a Captain Kangaroo scissors class.

[@paulhammond7489]

Team Squatch 'double-teaming' on the Super M rebuild is moving it along at a great pace :)

[@guifrakss]

Nice

[@41Zman]

thats the only downside of blasting something the grit going everywhere. even places one might not expect

[@maggs131]

If your channel wasn't called squatch, it would be awesome if it were called "right correct and proper"

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

KZbin put an ad for the NRA in my feed this video. I'm already a Life Member, but watched it all the way through anyway to make sure Toby got the revenue.

[@altonriggs2352]

How about a lithium battery this time..no acid.

[@sliderinc1]

I have a neighbor that have rebuilt a few dozen m and super m. They still use em on their farm. If you need a answer he'd help I'm sure. Just message me I'll give his number if he says it's ok.

[@zorki1]

How about a gasket making vid............

[@jonka1]

Sandblasting. I've worked on lots of vintage cars for customers and most of them had been sandblasted with entire power trains installed and usually by the same person. He was clearly unaware of or uninterested in the consequences. The most dangerous examples were steering systems siezing up in use from grit inside them. Lots of vintage stationary engines badly damaged by the same method.

[@dtec30]

47 degrees

[@joshua89schultz]

Love the progress so far, we just loaded up a 1940 H and a 1949 C. They will be busy in hay season here shortly. Here's a short video of them running on the trailer. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpWkhIKke8Slh9k

[@glovishowell7794]

First today!