First start VW engine forgot the what !!!.... surprise.... will it run ? 74 stroker

OMG WTF we forgot something HUGE. check out the video to see how the first start flopped then see how the engine runs after we fixed it. #rusty #vw #mike f #metal work #volkswagen #vw repair

[@Mikefngarage]

love to hear those comments. OMG I have to say that is the first time I have seen that.

[@mikethepainter]

🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕🚕

[@tecate9408]

Starting Vw sound, like music to my ears, never gets old! Rear main left out was classic!

[@VWJawbreaker]

Sounds good. Can’t say I’ve ever forgotten the rear main seal.... yet lol Just finishing up my 2054 and should be firing it up soon. Another 74 stroke on the road.

[@Mikefngarage]

yea we have seen other guys do that but never done it before. he hung the seal up to make sure we didnt damge it so it was not on the build table. Forgot about it the next day. the build table usually helps you not to forget stuff but when he hung it up he though it was in the case. Nope. that was the second machine shop run and 3rd parts run just for that end play. Sometimes they are easy sometime they suck.

[@CTmoog]

I've never forgot the rear main seal! =) HAHA Because I've never installed one ever! Not yet anyway! Nice job guys!

[@jonathanl4691]

Sounds good! It didn't come apart in the first 2 min. It should run a long time. In the last 25 years I've had 1 VW lock up solid in first 30sec, align bore on brand new case was off ( I didn't build the engine) and a second 1 grenaded in first minute.. put a nice skylight in the case.. I'm pretty sure I forgot to tighten a rod, but I was a teenager and knew everything..

[@Mikefngarage]

I remember a long time ago when the line bore machine went off. and the engines would last about 400 miles then seize. we got about 4 or 5 engines that came back. Just barely off. My old boss and friend was about done after that but he came back after a while.

[@J0NB81]

Mike Fn Garage do you have a way to pm ?

[@kerrondias4659]

Hi Mike, I have a 1979 vw panel van and I love this info on engine 74stro.. I want that engine in my panel 😍 thanks again for your info. Keep making more videos. I watched all your videos good job👍🇯🇲

[@philipcable7518]

I never get the leads on the right way around first time and you were not any different. Nice to hear it start and run,

[@adammiller6606]

That’s a terrific motor. Enjoy it. ☮️

[@larrymcentire5022]

I saw in one of ezgz’s videos they need to run for 20 minutes at 2 grand on first start up. Good job.

[@Mikefngarage]

all new engines with a new cam v8s too need to do the same. yes sir.

[@jimmywilkinson9190]

In the 60s and 70s I never heard of breaking in the cam . what we did was have every thing set and push start them and drove around and set the rings by bogging them in 3rd gear below 50. That was the issue.Back then I never seen the way now a cam will shear off the lobe in 3,000 miles. I guess now 2 things are issues is cams and valve seats. Now I have seen seats pounded by guys putting heavy racing springs on street motors. Probably caused by NO LEAD. Some times you have to take em apart a few times.

[@Mikefngarage]

yea right on Jimmy. I dont like the dual springs for that reason. single high rev is good enough. even stock springs are decent for about 5k rpm or so depending on the cam lift.

[@bondovwvw]

The problem now is most oils do not have zinc in them

[@jimmywilkinson9190]

@@bondovwvw In the 80s we used Exxon Superflow from Autoshack .69 cents never had a breakin problem ? Now in 2003 Mt friend Joe boy built a 327 and he got talked into putting racing springs on a .480 lift cam . the Machine shop talked him into it . At 3,000 miles it was back firing and some of the rocker arms did not move! Casto oil did not warn nobody about removing the zinc. It was nation wide = cam lobe failure

[@gmd1417]

We've all done something like that over years and years of working on cars, Cool that you caught it quickly and it was an easy fix

[@Mikefngarage]

10 minutes and it was back on the stand. I cant figure out why when we lifted it up to put it on the stand the oil didnt run out the first time.

[@gmd1417]

@@Mikefngarage I really enjoy you VW videos, Mike. You do great work , mostly by yourself, and you are fearless! 👍

[@JourneymanRandy]

It's happened to all of us. Good one Mike.

[@larrymcentire5022]

That’s classic right there! You forgot the rear main seal. I can relate though. Sometimes you forget where you left off from one day to the next. It was good for a laugh. Haha

[@Mikefngarage]

yea we were super shocked but had to show you guys that stuff happens. didnt want to leave that out which we could have.

[@vdub9943]

It’s just a tiny oil leak! Lol, I haven’t forgot one of those, yet. Great Video!

[@hillbillyvwnut1205]

Great video Mike I can say I have never forgot the rear main seal before but I have crossed the plug wires keep the awesome videos coming ✌️✌️✌️✌️

[@CTmoog]

Sounds good!

[@TimsWorkshopTJY]

Like your starter ground setup Mike. Better to know the rear main seal is not installed before loaded on the car/bus🤣👍 About the only thing I did close to that was not watching my buddy put the manifold to Holley 4 barrel carb gasket in backwards. Sounded like a supercharger but ran like crap till I found where the air leak was coming from🤣

[@vulturedroid9804]

Sounds great. Switched plug wires i have done that.

[@redshirt-scotty]

too funny. you guys have a great attitude

[@Mikefngarage]

well it didnt hurt anything. that is the main part.

[@taddbitofvideos3974]

Very cool, I follow you and ezgz, you guys are the bomb, thanks for the ride.

[@donjenkins8925]

Engine sounds great!

[@alext8828]

I appreciate the extra information and websites.

[@brian25837]

Good thing you tested the engine before putting it in the car.

[@mysterymonkey]

My boss is always moaning when the rear main leaks. I showed him this! Ha ha brilliant

[@delhudnall9986]

5/16 copper tube also will work just flare one end and use washer

[@kpdvw]

I weigh to rods and the pistens, then I combine them for matched total weight and place high weights opposite to each other on the crankshaft, stay away from removing any metal!

[@kpdvw]

Wht do I think how it will start and run? No opinion since I did NOT build it!

[@stewartgates4011]

Can't say that I've heard anyone forget to do rear main seal. You know with VW's you have to not make mistakes. They are temperamental already.

[@Mikefngarage]

yea that was a first.....He was setting the end play and forgot the seal.

[@jonathanhicks3342]

That sounded sweet

[@dagoldfishies]

At least the clutch wasn't installed!

[@Mikefngarage]

Yeah one more thing to take off and soak

[@RikardoKermat]

Nice work :D

[@betamax2090]

oops ! I wondered why the oil pressure took so long to build at first There is NOS reman Holly/Weber on ebay right now for 77 dollars has a water choke probadly for Ford Pinto or Capri could that be set up for a VW?

[@Mikefngarage]

yea you just buy the linkage kit and change the choke to the empi one or maybe the escort one.

[@allenschmitz9644]

People 'dream' they could be as Crafty as you in your garage, reality is there chimerical goal....lol'.

[@craigmayo5918]

I like your engine combo. Are you still making heater boxes and heat riser for the center mount carb.? I think a lot of us could use them on merged headers in a colder climate that you guys have.

[@Mikefngarage]

yea bothet we dlont have the riser tubes once the manifold was completely warm the engine ran pretty good. gotta find some at the swap meet. new they are pricey. putting in the riser tubes in the header too. then heater boxes. we have a new design coming soon.

[@allenschmitz9644]

@@Mikefngarage My uncle rode in my van in the winter and told me it reminded him of how cold it was back in ww2 of some of the rides he had...yea no heat/v.w.74 van at -05 out side.

[@Paulman50]

Why didn't you use a vacume advance dizzy.

[@Mikefngarage]

I dont have one around plus when you put a vacuum advance it can mask the jetting issues on that carb. Lots of people use them on the progressive because it masks the jetting issue. if the jetting is correct it will not have a dead spot with either distributor.

[@cybersurfer2010]

Sounds eager...

[@Mikefngarage]

I think the HP will be pretty good about 100hp with a little less torque than the 2007

[@tonypachanga9636]

HI MIKE I LIKE THAT CAM THAT IS A GOOD COMBINATION I WOULD LIKE TO BUILT THE SAME ENGINE , WHAT TYPE OF CAM IS THAT I LIKE THE SOUND IT SOUND VERY STRONG ENGINE I WONDER WHAT WILL BE THE GAS MILEAGE.

[@hopsgarage5513]

Damn she sounds great

[@tonypachanga9636]

What type of cam is that in the engine is that the web 86a or the 86b I like the rough idle

[@matthewisaacs7253]

Engine sounds great!!! I've forgotten to replace the oil drain bung; quite a scene. On another note, I was curious about the tattoo I saw at 19:03 (right forearm)……… pretty kool

[@Mikefngarage]

yes sir that is chrises date

[@Mikefngarage]

Yea i think I did that one once but never the rear main seal. he forgot it because it was not on the build table he hung it up so he didnt damage it removing the flywheel

[@Mikefngarage]

APPT date with the maker... ha ha ha good day there.

[@matthewisaacs7253]

@@Mikefngarage Yeah great!! Couldn't make out the date...... mine was Oct 1990

[@wgoconnor33]

Great video, I’m curious is that engine going in the bus your restoring?

[@Mikefngarage]

no it is going in my other bus then I may put the engine from that into the white one.

[@bobbygeurtz1379]

What is this engine setup? What exhaust/camshaft are you using? And did you had any problems with an dualport without preheat? "Frozen intake"?

[@Mikefngarage]

yea I added the preheat just not for that part we didnt have the parts on hand to weld it into the exhaust. . On the build I said the parts inside web 86 cam 1.25 rockers. 74x90.5 stock valve heads ported. port matched intake 8.75 to 1 compression. This motor rips. super torque and great top end. 20 plus MPG. runs super cool.

[@triariicat8448]

how much oil pressure should i have just turning over my newly built 1776 with no spark plug installed? I'm getting 48 psi, is that too low?

[@MrJp318]

Great job, very informative. is the bus for sale?

[@Mikefngarage]

no love the one is going in couldnt sell it.

[@adamdawood59]

What does men engine start program?

[@benkrom2737]

Oh no not again ! Turn that camera off and it will start right up ! Oh wait I heard a Pop there we go ! It's alive !

[@Mikefngarage]

yea for sure.

[@benkrom2737]

@@Mikefngarage Hey, it's sounds nice and tight and will be even better once you put the main seal in . I never liked working with anyone while putting an engine together just for that reason ! Hey, you got a laugh out of it and it does sound nice ! 👍

[@allenbrian72]

Hey I bought a new Weber progressive card last year it’s a 32/36 and it has 26 27 on the carb they told me that’s just a mold number not the size

[@brucehorner936]

What car are you going put in .

[@juanpablolara3893]

Sounds awesome what are the specs of the engine ?

[@Mikefngarage]

were figuring it is near 100hp with a little less torque than the 2007. which it is a 1904. The 2007 in the bulletproof build has lots of room for more HP in the build. Just needs more carburation. this one could use more but what is there should be perfect combo for what its going in.

[@bondovwvw]

What cam?

[@Mikefngarage]

@@bondovwvw web 86 with 1.25 rockers

[@andremarais2706]

The crank pulley is out and needs machining?

[@Mikefngarage]

might be slightly bent I saw that on the video but not in person I am going to look into that.

[@andremarais2706]

@@Mikefngarage can also be spacer placement.

[@danielchapman9635]

Manifold heat will make it better!

[@nittygrittykitchen]

I don't understand the venting. The valve covers and crankcase all venting into itself? Does the airbox in the back have a vent as well? Looks sealed. I thought the vents were to go out to atmosphere or back through the intake. Help me out

[@Mikefngarage]

breather box has a vent too. yea.

[@nittygrittykitchen]

Mike Fn Garage thanks for the reply. Love your vids!

[@robertbelcher2273]

is that a weber carb ,.where can you get jets for them

[@Mikefngarage]

yes Car Craft in Riverside has them just need to match them up.

[@johnnyturbo8460]

Come on folks, we can do better than that.. ( Almost 8k views and only 209 thumbs up)