FINALLY Dyno Tuning The Crown Vic! Now It's Time To Install The Turbo!

[@b1gbeast86]

Oh no you got a Dorman replacement intake. Heard they have smaller ports than the oem plastic manifolds.

[@TurboTurdBurglar]

Louie Flo I lost 15hp with a dorman switched back to a ford pi intake

[@b1gbeast86]

My 02 mustang had one to and I bought the PI intake to swap it also. Didn't notice much difference but felt smoother up to redline

[@b1gbeast86]

I've moved on to a 13Gt and I don't regret it at all haha but will definitely get another 2v and boost it later on.

[@helloitsme4139]

@ 1:37 yes that is the updated intake, the original ones prone to cracking/leaking are 100% composite including the thermostat housing.

[@MaRCoS-pl7ht]

I know A Giraffe 🦒 that Is Really good at Tuning😂. I can give you his number, good pricing and they build turbo kits as well😂🤣

[@Slayin_Egos]

MaRCoS lmfao

[@REDBIRD-95]

Yeah, but he's notorious for blowing up engines while doing it for Dale🤣🤣🤣

[@Slayin_Egos]

McFarland fab

[@XenaThreat]

Didn't Jeremy teach Cleetus how to tune?

[@freedomfox8183]

@@XenaThreat ish... Not Everything he knows just the basics and general stuff I believe

[@madmod]

Hey I think you have a dorman intake. They have the "pi" intake ports but the runners are narrow like the npi. I don't believe that is the same as the OEM pi intake hence why you see low end torque over the top end gains that would be expected.

[@mrelectron6220]

Dorman intake has the rubber o ring seals around the ports and does not use gaskets.

[@madmod]

@@mrelectron6220 This manifold in the video looks identical to a Dorman intake p/n 615-175. Regardless of what model, the Dorman runners are not as free flowing as an OEM pi and it shouldn't be used with a turbo. Look for an intake off the 02-11 crown Vic police interceptor as they have the same runners as a 99-04 mustang.

[@bigggmustang73]

I agree looks like a Dorman. Should have ponied up for the Ford Racing/Motorcraft intake.

[@madmod]

@@bigggmustang73 I can source pi intakes off cvpi's for 100$ which is the same exact manifold as the frpp but with brand new manifolds, you don't gotta worry about the crossover seals pushing out.

[@rodney1818]

You know when I first heard the term fasterproms I kind of thought it sounded like a really exciting date

[@rexrunner]

Lol

[@beardwierd2783]

Yes to be honest I thought it was a comment on the relationship between how fast your ride is and how easily her knickers drop.

[@REDBIRD-95]

"I'm learning as we go here" Best way to learn👍👍🤘🤘😁

[@cincinnaticobra3154]

Hell yeah im so happy ur finally tuning her up so excited to see what she can do

[@helloitsme4139]

@ 1:37 that is the updated intake, the original ones prone to cracking/leaking are 100% composite including the thermostat housing.

[@tylerc7336]

Just wanted to say thanks for explaining tuning in detail really appreciate it and love the dogs at the end

[@zuestoots5176]

after 2001 the Panther got the PI manifold, the Mustang got it in 98. If i remember correctly the difference between the Non Pi and Pi are around 15hp and 10ftlbs. You can definatley feel it in a stock car.

[@dom_not_torretotedesco5707]

Biggest thing is itll actually rev with a pi intake. Non pi falls off at 5k

[@wesleygrayson2683]

Hey man I'm ready to see some more of the S10 build.....

[@carlcomputer9686]

Aren't we all...

[@freedomfox8183]

He likes to gather all parts first and do it all at once instead of dragging out the builds plus everyone Can't forget You runs a full-time business and travels a lot for tuning

[@wesleygrayson2683]

@@freedomfox8183 drrrrrrrr

[@MrOgre1110]

Remote mount turbo, so many bonuses. Won't need to relocate as much stuff, keep all the heat away from the engine bay, keep the headers, super sleeper looking engine bay. And answer the question once and for all, will it be horribly laggy

[@richardharris492]

No it won't, it's like a 200' water hose, once it's full it's full, no lag whatsoever. You sir are misinformed

[@madmod]

@@richardharris492 flowing water and air is a bad comparison(litterally apples and oranges) but properly sized and it would reach boost fairly quickly. It would be so much easier to just y pipe off stock manifolds and run it between the engine and radiator. There is more than enough room and keeps the hotside pipe under the engine so who cares about the heat there. Also simplifies charge pipes and makes for fewer exhaust leaks and headaches trying to rear mount it.

[@doozerchuck8625]

Mad mod you nailed it. Air compresses, water doesnt. I hate seeing remote mounted turbos.

[@ctm9191]

Always a great day when we get a new fasterproms video!

[@scottyknot7403]

Thanks for everything man. I appreciate the content and the knowledge. Keep it metal Jeremy!!

[@stephenmitchell3569]

Fishing trip is smart... making use of what you currently have!!! Great video of common Sense!!! Love those land yachts!!!

[@Jeremy-Biggers]

Look into the ON3 Performance turbo kit. It puts the turbo in the front like you are wanting to do. Would save you a lot of time vs fabbing your own kit.

[@crownvictorialifestyle4421]

Jeremy Biggers he was still have to modify it because it's meant for a Mustang 2 valve

[@williamlouis4981]

They just redid their 2v systems with forward facing headers I believe

[@Americancitizen1]

Have I mentioned how cute those pups at the end are?.. I am fascinated with the donor Vic and the turbo!

[@bob7975]

I'm only 2 minutes in and I'm screaming, " That's a damn Dorman Manifold! That puppy will steal HP from your performance improved intake heads!!!" Hate to tell y'all, that's not an OEM manifold.... I literally just replaced one on mine last month.

[@ToddLarsen]

This is the only Channel that I don't have to rush and hit the thumbs up button when the end of the video is anounced, there is plenty of Goldie action to give me time to like the video👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Thanks for sharing and as always keep building👍

[@maxwellhughes7821]

Your MAF is going to peg. Get a HPX or SCT maf and blow through it. Use the IAT in the MAF or get a screw in Ford IAT sensor. No speed density option on these as I'm sure you already know. SCT Advantage III software isn't hard to use on these, I can print you out a guide to using it. Panther cars tune exactly like Mustangs. I've tuned a lot of them with boosted setups.

[@adamfox8885]

Jeremy, I can potentially hook you up with some blems. Let me do so research and get back with ya. I work for a family owned tire and service company up here in Michigan call Alma Tire Service. I there a better way to contact you?

[@blugods2655]

[e-mail]

[@blugods2655]

That's the contact email from his website

[@the_langss]

Thanks for the Video.....What you described is similar to the way Ford had their computer setup when I tried to use my Scanner to read the codes on a 91 Mustang.... Compared to GM it was like "where is everything". I think even Chrysler Products had more use able data. At least HP Tuners is working on something for Fords....

[@mikedavis1127]

Next time you outro with the goldens put a desk in the field and say, and now for something different! As you cut to the doggos running across the field lol

[@Scott-Tim]

Fricking love fasterproms keep up the great/educational/interesting builds thanks for the content. Good to see George and Laz why so quiet fellas?

[@doozerchuck8625]

Seems he just edits them out. I have requested more of them in the past. I think they could be a great addition to the channel. Cleetus has Coop and James. Jeremy needs more George and Laz!

[@RosscoAPBR]

@FasterProms - Should have a Black shirt - White Silhouette - You - Doing the sprinkling motion. . Like the new shirt too. Keep making these videos man!

[@pyric]

If you are willing to (or if it doesn't work already) they make kits to move the alternator from the valley to replace the AC allowing you to stick the turbo where the alternator currently sits... or possibly use a DOHC alternator setup since they have a supercharger where the alternator sits

[@jamesmoore8900]

I really dig your vids man. I have been diving head deep in c++ and general coding, it seems you have been also. You know, before it was cool.

[@HorsepowerTube]

"if it's anything like the LS manifold, it'll hold 30 lbs of boost" It's not. Those things break stock, seems like it'd definitely break with boost. Might need to put the aluminum back on just for strength.

[@MrDavidelliottjr]

That intro donut/burnout was epic.

[@dontworrywhatmynameis4111]

Awesome!! Its finally happening..this car is gonna be sick

[@Dave24Turbo]

That is the updated intake. The original modular ones were entirely friction welded plastic. It was on those the the water cross over would crack n bust and leave you to walk. The ones with the aluminum coolant cross over was the revised ones.

[@joeychaseable]

Can't wait to see the Turbo install

[@bradnewport7896]

Looking forward to the hptuners stuff later on. I'll be buying one to tune my Chevy stuff and my mustang/08 vic that's a full swap donor for my 92 vic but my 03 needs a tune more than any other vehicle I own but I don't want to use sct if I don't have to.

[@danbourg76]

Jeremy, ditch the hood now and call Cleetus from McFarland Fab to rig up that turbo kit. JK, awesome vic, I can't wait to see it bogging deep in a future video!

[@ericbrown5067]

I got 4 225/45/17 tires that have a little tread on 2 and the other 2 I would have to say are like a 4or 5 on the tire inspection gage. If you would like them let me know when your coming back to pa and I’ll bring them up to Keith’s pit stop

[@rapidbean1173]

Hey man thank you for the shirt you meet my dad Toby from auto glass guys and gave him a shirt for me. Dude you are awesome thank you sooo much!!!

[@sparxbettinelli1234]

Been waiting for a video on the crown forever!

[@wheeln24-79]

Asking KZbin for takeoff tires lol. Welcome to drifting!

[@screener545]

Regarding the mass air flow sensor. Unless you add a map you need to put the maf on the intake of the turbo. I made the mistake of putting it where you were talking about putting it. It worked sure but once you go over 4psi the ecu has no idea what the hell is happening. Compressed air will misread on flow. 10psi 200cfm is much more air than 0psi 200cfm. I understand cfm increases with boost. However its just an example. If you could somehow make a baseline with the car n/a and keep a reading of the cfm through the rev range, then add the turbo and reference the n/a cfm map, you may be able to calculate the boost from the increased CFM to the motor. But i think you would also need the compressor map of the specific turbo used... Just no no no. Please use a MAP and MAF

[@kman418911]

YESSSSS JEREMY I HAVE MISSED THE UPLOADS LOVE THE CONTENT!

[@superscort57]

Gonna be a cool setup Jeremy. Can't wait

[@rustyshacklfort9508]

I’ll take the headers if you don’t need them anymore. Ya know as a favor to help keep your shop from cluttering up . Also thanks for pestering HP tuners to work with the 03 Vic’s , I was wondering how I was gonna tune mine

[@aeneis116]

im pretty sure that is the updated one. I replaced mine and if I remember right the thermostat housing was the issue and the original was plastic.

[@stevenbrading1437]

I agree with the comment below and I'm also a huge fan. Speaking for myself you're like a good drug that I'd like a lot more of and I'm not getting my fix. Lol.

[@Brock_Landers]

244/267 tells me that's a very healthy mod motor and a good base for a turbo build. However, if the person who donated the vehicle hasn't done it yet (I do remember him saying that he built the motor for boost), I would pull the heads and put some better head gaskets, some head studs, (which, like I said, pretty sure I heard dude say that he did all that) and some stiffer valve springs. All of the bases for a new turbo build on an otherwise NA vehicle.

[@tufgriz8917]

Just an FYI if you didnt know the mass air fords need the maf sensor to match the size of the injectors

[@jaredthisdelle5617]

Great clip can't wait too see the results what a different s a tune a can dew ..lol cheers great stuff

[@Brock_Landers]

So I live in Pittsburgh, but I'll be in Plant City tomorrow until the 18th and it sure would be nice to meet you guys and see the shop, but I don't want to show up uninvited. It just seems like another missed opportunity for me.

[@cincinnaticobra3154]

That new shirt looks amazing love the design

[@sidneywhite100]

Patriot performance was a local shop to me, they had pretty legit operation going on

[@mrelectron6220]

I can see using the 60 lbs injectors for turbo app but why does the car have 39lb injectors on a N/A engine making those kind of HP #'s? the duty cycle on those must be so low the pattern is crap on the spray. 24lb injectors will support up to 300hp which is more than I seen that engine make.

[@mjmcomputers]

I can’t wait to see the turbo setup.

[@REDBIRD-95]

Jeremy, your tach is off center, a little bit turned to the right. The force of the magic tuning beard must have turned it😁

[@bob7975]

Also, not a drain hole for coolant. That puppy leads right to the transfer case and/ or transmission. Either will rust out.

[@DubWhat307]

That is the new intake. I run the same one in my mustang. Which is running a 4.6 from a 02 interceptor.

[@DubWhat307]

Mine doesn’t have the coolant temp sensor spot. It uses a cylinder head temp sensor.

[@screener545]

I had a boost spike to 45psi (rip wastegate hose) and blew the hose off the back of the intake. And no i didnt have boost cut because I like to party

[@temueralagaluga8279]

Why do you put the turbo in the same spot or do the same sort of setup as a Holden ve/vf ss it goes behind the left hand side headlight with the manifold actually turned backwards going around the front of the engine and collecting into the other side via dump pipe?

[@donogoobo9992]

You need a turkey pan, mid plate and intercooler from an old Cobra. BUT don't use an EATON. Make an adaptor plate with a 90 degree neck and big throttle body. THEN you run a tank with ice in the trunk.

[@madgreek253]

Surprised you and cleetus dont have a tire sponsorship yet with how many tires you guys roast off

[@mattasire]

woooohoooo been looking forward to this video 👍👍

[@samfurness5730]

Off subject kinda but with the older ecu you can ad nvram to make tuning a lot easier and quicker, maybe take a look at pcmhacking website it is about Aussie ecu but they are from America. kinda. May help with your dad's car, also tunerpro is what I use to tune early 90's holdens. love to see HP tuners taking an interest, I learn so much from your channel thanks keep up your great content.

[@StraightCutGears]

Are you going to be coming back to this after SEMA?

[@DiyDadFL]

I wish still lived in Florida so I could bring you my Vortec 5.7 Tahoe to have it retuned. Unfortunately, I purchased it tuned and PCM is locked and I have no clue on who tuned it and what's been done to the engine.

[@lenoob2800]

Let HP tuners know that if they do the ford 4.6 from 1996-end that they will have many more customers

[@codys6229]

Maf on the cold side charge piping? Doesnt it go before the turbo inlet?

[@jwyers10]

They have the right size your looking for listed below the description.

[@dat_ford_guy2051]

What did you guys do with the water that was in that intake head port?

[@JohnRoberts71]

Great content thanks for sharing

[@keith38able]

OEM intake has machine threads with brass bosses and a aftermarket has a course thread screw for the coils

[@94XJ]

I was really hoping to see the numbers better. What was the best pull?

[@cobrasvt347]

Hell yea I am ready to see some boost on this Thing. Finally 🤘

[@povertyshop]

One thing that the mod motor guys are doin in the S197 aspect of boosted cars, is to run a triple core Honda half radiator and slim fan shroud, and fixes the space for the turbo

[@chrismorin4817]

love you guys keep up the good content

[@rmxrider20032000]

Or, would you be better suited going with a Procharger? Love your content, thanks for sharing!!!

[@NjDevilCamaro408]

🤦🏼‍♂️just when I thought we were going to have a video without the Boring Mans Whip, it appeared at 13:14

[@maj.kamper9314]

When you do turbo, what manifolds are you gonna run? And what tuning software? The hp tuner?

[@shipshrekt2156]

That intake is on my cousins car right now. 2v Mustang with nitrous and were making about 400

[@ewanoffshore]

I'm only here for the dog vid at the end!! 😆👌🏻

[@gunsandmachinesenthusiast]

i have two 245 45 17s you could have with like 25 percent tread

[@dexter2433]

the big problem with the oem is NOS back fire would crack it ,,,,other than that they did ok with more reliable forms of power adders like i seed OK

[@bearfoot25]

IM really bummed about what you said about HPtuners for these cars. I just bought one for my 02 Mustang GT now im worried i wont be able to do anything with it.

[@joshuawgarner]

Jeremy you need to get some way of recording video output from the dynometer so that you can do voiceovers instead of us looking at a blurry shot of the Dyno 12 feet away

[@Ezrider359]

it accually wouldn't be hard to do, install a screen capture program on the dyno computer. hit record, then he could record his video the same way he already does, then when he shows the dyno screen insert the screen capture video on a second layer in the editing program so what your be looking at is the screen capture but your still be hearing the original audio of him explaining what your looking at.

[@marcmo7138]

I don't think you missed anything. It is only making 235hp which is weak af for having heads cams and headers.

[@adriancaraveo7945]

Matco pry bars awesome

[@FaithWRanch]

Great video. I really like the shirt, just wish it had a pocket...

[@musclecarfan70]

So what tuning program you used? Sct?

[@bryanroupe8646]

I am curious as to what a built 2v will handle. Most people dont even mess with them. I wouldn't. I'm a sbf guy myself. Some people talk shit about them but I have made over 610 hp at the wheels with a stock 29 year old engine. Ran 7.3 with a stock explorer engine and a stock t5 in a 2700lb mustang.

[@blugods2655]

Bbf too much for you to handle?

[@chrismorin4817]

hell ya cooper keep the banana thing going

[@christophertaylor-durr897]

I'm glad I left a voice mail and email 4 months ago asking about a tune.... never heard a word for anyone there.

[@Fasterproms1]

I’m sorry sir. Please don’t take it personal. We have entirely too much work and not enough to cover it all. We haven’t answered the phone for sometime and it nearly impossible to keep it all together.

[@christophertaylor-durr897]

@@Fasterproms1 not at all man. Was just looking for a good shop in my area to tune my single 88mm G8 GT setup. Every said go to y'all.... just disappointing when you never hear back from a reputable shop.

[@FLmanActual]

i see mountains in the back ground of your yard what part of Florida has mountains

[@joe735]

These mod engines should be running around 40° total timing. Been having some problems with my 03 SuperCrew F150 5.4 only running about 19° total, even with a programmer. I can advance maybe a few degree's, but nowhere near enough to get to 40. Suspect maybe a cam/crank position sensor, or the engine's been rebuilt prior to my owning it, and timing is off a tooth or something. Actually had an issue with an 02 Focus I bought, where someone put a new head on (neither myself or the seller allegedly knew that, and those heads on the 2.0 SPI's are famous for dropping valves), and sure enough, the timing was off a tooth or so. Car would take 30 seconds to get to 60. Fixed the timing, 0-60 improved to 10 seconds....and now im really thinkin my trucks engine is gonna have to come apart to verify, lmao.

[@bigggmustang73]

What's the point of having ported heads/cam if you're gonna put a crap Dorman intake on it??

[@bob7975]

bigggmustang73 my same thought! In minutes in I'm screaming at the screen, lol. That's what happens when GM guys don't do their research, lol.

[@bigggmustang73]

@@bob7975 pretty much haha

[@marcmo7138]

I think he was more concerned with heat soak and repeatability. Also I think he has already dyno'd the car with the aluminum intake hence how he knows about heat soak. Either way the numbers are underwhelming for a cammed and aftermarket heads and headers. But yes he is a GM guy so this is his learning process to the dark side.

[@BobbyB910]

Shout out to the dale truck that gets sat in a corner

[@str8sketchy777]

seriously what do you want for the Aluminum Intake I would love to have that thing I've been looking for one everywhere

[@davidlanham2311]

Not sure if you've heard the horror stories about those plastic intakes but I had a 99 Town Car with the exact same engine and the intake cracked at 125,000 MI with pretty normal driving. Anyways love the content and keep up the good work

[@str8sketchy777]

What do you want for the Aluminum Intake

[@DeShakeel]

*Hey Fasterproms this is guys watching your youtube channel.* 😂😂

[@williamlouis4981]

As an owner of a panther, I salute you

[@awesomeguy2155]

Could do a rear mount turbo similar to motionautoTV to save space and still use your headers

[@jjmichael2514]

Just waiting to see you put abunch of bananas and sketti at coops car lmao

[@carsnquads]

Also you should consider a rear mount turbo.