Fastest eBike for $2,000

[@jamesgutsche]

Thanks nice job but !! Failed to mention, Double walled rims, Thermo insulated metal mounted controller box, Double sided chain guard, Heavier and sturdier frame and rear control arm and shock pivot with "Lifetime Frame Warranty" , 110lb rear rack,Water bottle and front rack mounts, Reinforced frame guard over wire harness, 203mm Front 180mm rear brakes, 17in shorter frame with 19in option, "NO Shipping or Tax" $1895 with code!! Is a lot less then a $5 dollar difference !! Not to mention all the custom order options.....A Lot of us respect your opinion and unbiased videos and if there is a comparison being made with any brands or styles of EBike's please take the time to fully research and report "All" the pros and cons in your opinion ?? THanks

[@meetoo4368]

Skinny spokes,shock pivots with nylon bushes not proper machined arms with sealed bearings ,insulated to keep heat inside isn't a good idea ,didn't see any 203mm in the video either😊

[@jimjr9143]

The only ones crying , its just a copy are those related to the owner . Plenty of differences . In reality though there is only so many ways to make a bike different . It actually just comes down to the quality of components, total out the door cost and customer service . Competition is a must . The largest amount of baby crying and whining (um certain female KZbinr ) don’t need to mention name . Is directed from the company itself . Obviously they don’t care to much for any competition . Well tough . Competition is a must . Price between the 2 is huge . As one charges a massive $250 shipping insurance . Seriously ? There is aproximatly $600 difference right now . That is HUGE .

[@Watchyourback69]

But you forgot that it $500 more when you add the 2nd battery, Wired comes with 2

[@jrsixowfour8674]

I'm lost Ehi h one are you guys saying is better? EC or WF?

[@jefffather4663]

@@meetoo4368 the controller is NOT insulated...come on. It's "potted", like a guitar pickup coil, but with a thermal gel. The gel inside allows the heat to reach the aluminum housing fins more efficiently.

[@E-Ryders]

I guess we can argue the components a little, but I've had an E-Cells bike for 3yrs, a bike they released over 5yrs ago and they had the same frame for 5yrs. Component wise there does seem to some close similarities to the #5Star and #Wired and I'm liking what I see from Wired for sure. I personally love when companies get competitive cause it's better for the Consumer and our Wallets.....lol

[@notsoanonymous2458]

Summer of '21 I wanted an AR X-class but didn't want to spend $2,400 on an ebike. One year later there was so much more competition in that same space the bike was down to $1,900 and is now $1,700. Now you can get a Motor goat v3 with a 60v battery, 50 amp controller and 2,600 watt motor for $2,400. Competition is a very good thing.

[@omozeoyarebu4444]

I agree. I bought my Ariel Rider Grizzly back in 2022 and at the time it was the best deal in terms of performance and range. Now in 2024, it's not even close to be been reasonably priced when you have the Aniioki A8 Pro Max dual motor with a 52v 60ah battery, that comes with a 52v 8a charger but also has an option for 52v 14a charger, top speed of 42-45mph, 300mm/220mm rotors with quad piston hydraulic brakes, turn signals etc all for $2,899. It's insane how the ebike brands especially the Chinese one's are innovating

[@MrJustek]

Interesting bikes you guys mentioned. But, the sketch factor is real on those bikes. Feel free to test them for the rest of us ^^

[@notsoanonymous2458]

@@MrJustek "Sketch factor?" I don't know what that's supposed to mean in this context. AR is now an OG in the ebike community. They make solid bikes and they hold up well to modding. I ended up getting an AR Kepler for my first bike and it was solid. It wasn't for me so sold it to my step dad and he loves it. I did end up getting an X-class and it's also a solid bike. I can't speak on the Grizzly but I've seen tons of reviews and it also has a good reputation. These bikes have been tested and have scored well. And so far the Motor goat v3 is reviewing well but time will tell.

[@meetoo4368]

​@@notsoanonymous2458 sketch factor is the components ,all 160mm cable disc breaks ,coil forks with shock absorbers just springs ,cheap drivetrain,bmx handlebars all the stuff you would expect to see on a cheap department store bike ,the frame is the only half decent part in terms of strength and durability but certainly not a great design or good geometry

[@peterdang8107]

Totally agree with this!

[@landsavage]

Theres a ton of improvements, and the frame is the same they have been using on their monarch for years, so if anything is copied, its ecells that got copied

[@StayConnectedEV]

Nice job. Just a few big differenciators. 1) Free shipping 2) No tax and 3) Faster motor so big differences to consumer

[@quantumfx2677]

Theirs a few, even water proofed the controller and others not mentioned.

[@ericechipman1183]

I believe the five star bike, is taking this to a whole new level of quality. If you look closely the fit and finish of the five star is way better than the wired. Plus they are giving you way more options to customize your bike. I used to own a wired /Wicked E Bike. And I have a five-star on the way. The more I am seeing of the five star bike,it is reassuring me that it is a quality bike.

[@jfly2249]

Inferior copy, not UL compliant, on their last gasp.

[@kevincrump5861]

​@@jfly2249are you kidding....wired isn't ul compliant either....they've "applied"

[@SarahJane-y1p]

@@jfly2249 As usual, The Fly is misinformed. Facts, Not Emotion Fly!!!

[@jefffather4663]

you have both? please comment on the sketchy e-cell frame welds...looks aside, a welder needs to tell us how they can be worse than they already appear. (inside)

[@CraigersPvtchef]

​@jfly2249 and just over the horizon, peeps in the US are going to start seeing more rules and regulations with fake ebikes like this one. Some states in 2025 will be enacting laws that allow bikes like this as "off-road only." Bravo to you for pointing this all important factor. UL's top priority is human safety. How this brand skirted that important step in unimaginable.

[@robanderson5624]

Other pluses include water bottle bosses, stronger rack, smaller and larger frame options vs. Wired, potted controller, two year warranty, optional torque sensor, underframe cable protection, wider range freewheel, 203 brake rotor in front, many other colours, and add-on options like different tires and rims. Yes I bought one. Hope it is as good as it looks.

[@Mattball82]

My 2022 Jetta had 184 ft-lbs of torque.. this bicycle has 60% of that torque once converted from Nm to ft-lbs 😂

[@gregarycomehere]

I'll probably get the ecells. Front rack mounts and free rack for now and free shipping.

[@Poindogindustries]

The front rack on the frame is so much better too. I have a fork mounted front rack and when it’s loaded up it’s really annoying, not even riding so much, but the basket turns with the wheel when applying the kickstand and tries to take the bike over lol.

[@jfly2249]

@@Poindogindustriesbut the Wired is UL compliant, you can’t even buy the e cells fire hazard in Nee York.

[@james6015]

​@jfly2249 why isn't the wired UL certified?

[@kevincrump5861]

​@@jfly2249ita not....there is no certs yet

[@Jnaathra]

@@jfly2249 SAMSUNG 21700 50E high-discharge cells are in the Ecells. They've been used for 5 years in their bikes and no fires have been reported.

[@Jnaathra]

Ecells does offer "24″ TIRE AND WHEEL, double-wall rims NO CHARGE " for this bike in both 17 and 19 frame size.

[@rickymahoney6664]

Id love to see the 17" frame and 24" tires since the size was my biggest negative

[@quantumfx2677]

I will take the E cells add a front motor and use it when necessary, also a back up if a motor happen to have a problem I can keep going.

[@SeasonalObsession]

Ecells makes dual motor bikes

[@quantumfx2677]

@@SeasonalObsession Yes, I believe 750w only. I believe its cheaper to get this E-Cell and add my motor then to buy their dual, plus I will have a bit more power.

[@Hiser23]

Ecells has been using this same design well before Wired came along. Probably why they don’t have the death wobble that Wired is selling their customers

[@shuster1921]

I've driven both, and my 2 cents are on the 5 star. I'm about 205 to 210, and really felt the difference around hard corners, the Wired felt like the rear end was flexing or not tracking with the front wheel, if that makes sense?! Just felt like the 5 star was more solid feeling no matter where I took it or how hard I pushed it, on or off road.

[@jcolt84]

I wanted the wired freedom when I bought my Onyx CTY2. I had one purchased, and then I canceled my order when I believed that it might take months before receiving my bike. I canceled the order and bought a CTY2 the next morning. Literally while on my way home with the Onyx, I got an email saying that my wired freedom had arrived and they were ready to ship it. So now, I'm never going to be satisfied until I have a wired freedom. Whether the bike is what everyone says it is or not, now I have to have one because it was kind of the one that got away type scenario.

[@goingoutotheparty1]

I reckon a 24imch may be ok for general purpose, need larger formoff road really

[@onceuponareset-ho7fg]

Why are you keeping this video up? I can understand/forgive that you were not up to speed with the facts between the Wired Freedom and the E-Cells Five Star during the time you released this video, but now that you've has some time to get caught up with the facts, I can't understand why you would keep this video up.

[@road8248]

Do they make a tire in-between fat tire and mountain bike? I don't need all that contact and friction, but i rarely need the bite of a mountain bike tire.

[@TunaSoda]

Yes they do, it's called mid-fat, like 27.5x2.8, I just don't know if they would fit in this case lol

[@donrobinson9503]

Why didn't you talk about the different Controllers, E -Cell is much better, check it out !!!

[@goingoutotheparty1]

I've been running flipsky (Vesc) for 10k miles already seems good FOC programmable for fair price

[@quantumfx2677]

And they did significant improvements, even water proofed the controller.

[@birdsnest7883]

Brother, need to do your research. E-Cells was in producing these bikes way before Wicked/Wired..

[@brandonwood8971]

Options for dual motor and dual battery (mounted on rear rack) would be amazing. Also steel frame to handle all that weight and still have cargo capacity for 2 riders and camping equipment

[@jamis0nify]

I've had a spare front battery on order for 3 months with Ecells. They're going to ship me a new rear rack and a DIY kit to add the second battery instead. That's what I wanted in the first place, just the two batteries... Don't care about the forks, or big headlight. Just the additional battery. Kudos to Ecells for making the kit!

[@scottl.5212]

Unfortunately you've got it backwards! It was Wicked/Wired that copied Ecells. This essential core of the Ecells has been around for FIVE years! How long has Wicked/Wired been around. You and some others have not only not done your homework, but have smeared one of the most celebrated e-bike companies around. Can you please update your video???

[@KevinAugustt]

you sound just like the owner of ecells he gets so offened when reviews say wired is better xD

[@SirWrecksy]

@@KevinAugustt but it's the truth...you're the one that sounds like the Wired (d) rider

[@justinwhite2951]

THE MOST important thing he said was "I am not going to make any commission off this video".

[@StayConnectedEV]

yet.

[@Ronin8451]

Just my opinion, but the E-Cells rear suspension is a way better design and should have a better control throughout the full travel with little deflection. I have heard of a lot of people having rear suspension deflection on the Wired, especially if on a rough terrain.

[@supercraps6110]

You need to be more honest about wired freedom price. They charge for shipping $250.00 + tax comes to over $2400.00

[@brett7740]

Wrong

[@jamis0nify]

They weren't going to charge me tax, but the $250 shipping, and $75 insurance was a little iffy.

[@TheAbsolutShame]

You also get a 2nd battery with Wired if you want to be honest. Th Five Star also cost $100 more so you can subtract that amount from the $250 Wired delivery fee. So for $175 more you get a 2nd battery, more torque and more power from Wired.

[@DownsouthMan]

Why do you say you think it should have 20” wheels? Just a question.

[@ichigro3930]

can you make a video about the power goat V3 ?

[@lukewalker1051]

Well done. One of your best videos to date.

[@jeffcarello7446]

Let's see, eCells has been around for 5 years, and Wired has been around how long??? Yeah, Wired copied eCells... fix your video.

[@timr31908]

Don't buy into all the hype of voltage and get caught up in all that marketing crap you can find a good deal on a bike you just got to realize what you're getting especially the quality of the batteries important.... The market is saturated you can find a bike that is very reasonable and just as good as the high-end bikes.....😊

[@rickymahoney6664]

I want to see the 17" frame and 24" tires that E-Cells offers. That could be the one

[@rufusirvin5279]

Ecells has been around for a lot longer than Wired. Ecells frame is the same as there AWD.

[@buffalomind6838]

They could’ve improved upon the bike by adding 72 volts with 5 more amps of battery, and they can still offer this ebike with 2.5-3” tires. 4” is overkill as it’s not a motorcycle. You get better handling, and also less drag also equaling better range.

[@randallhack4477]

I wish they would offer a 2.2" wide street tire version. The bike would be faster and more efficient, like you said. I have a fat tire bike and I have a 2.2" wide tire bike and the more narrow tires by far handle better on the street, which is where I do 99% of my riding. I don't understand the fat tire craze. Even of I used the bike for offroading, light weight would be preferred over fat tires.

[@Trailtested]

Judging by the comments, E cell for the win.

[@Jnaathra]

Much more than 4 dollars cheaper since Wired charges tax, shipping and insurance. Ecells does not.

[@jasondundom1390]

Which bike has "Higher Quality Parts" As in the Front and back suspension, shifters and derailleur ?? and can you get into the settings to adjust output and performance ? like the Bafang BBSHD for example..

[@quantumfx2677]

And they did significant improvements not mentioned here even water proofed the controller.

[@TheOceanMan-xc7qp]

E Cells by far

[@fpsFAMOUS]

Any other recommendations for ebikes around $2000? Going to sell 2 of my ebikes for a slightly faster one. Would love it to go around 40 MPH as well. List of ebike recommendations?

[@lebronjordan7796]

Revv 1 full suspension model has turn signals front and rear and goes about 45

[@fpsFAMOUS]

@@lebronjordan7796 thanks, I'll check it out!

[@georgekrpan3181]

I'm just the opposite, I hate the BMX handlebars and I love the 26" wheels because of the ghost peddling issue with 20" wheels. I imagine it won't be long before bikes in this price range will be 72v. The dual suspension looks nice but does it work or is it crap? I can tell you that the suspension fork on my Troxus Explorer is crap. It's so stiffly sprung that it's no better than a rigid fork and a lot heavier.

[@georgekrpan3181]

@@MrMr-m4x How many more cells are in a 72v battery compared to a 60v battery of the same amp hours?

[@CraigersPvtchef]

Something I've noticed over the past couple of years is that there are a myriad of ebike manufacturers pushing the legal limit with regards to speed. Here in the US, 28mph seems to be the max(using PAS). Anything above that and you're looking for trouble. In my 3 years as a fat tire ebike daily commuter, I am suddenly seeing a huge amount of scofflaws riding these illegal(on most public mixed use trails)iterations. This one, like the rest of the faster bikes, seems to attract a lot of the younger crowd who also start out not knowing or caring about BASIC road rules to begin with. IMO, these faux ebikes are going to ruin it for the rest of those who follow the rules. At least the person in the video stopped at the light, so Bravo for that!

[@jamis0nify]

Hehe, I just went over a mile long bridge with a snow lane, not a bike lane, it's about a third of a lane though. I had my bike on PAS5 because the speed limit is 35. I was pedaling hard at 36MPH, low battery, and got passed by a state trooper who stayed behind me, until he could gun it. He didn't look at me twice.

[@ZeldaVStheworld]

E-cells has been making that frame for 5+ years.

[@Easy416]

Where can I find that mirror?

[@MrT-tn4qe]

The Wired Freedom is NOT $2,000 its actually $2,350 please don't spread misinformation

[@SimonVanliew26]

It’s 2000 literally right now

[@kurgin]

GFY

[@georose33]

@@SimonVanliew26 actually $2249 with shipping, plus tax, before any discounts. The other is $1995 shipped, no tax, before discounts. Personally, IDGAF, I don't have either bike, just checking them out.

[@MrT-tn4qe]

@@kurgin After I'm done with your wife

[@simoharjane7823]

Hey ! All the e-bike companies they include the shipping with the price . A 40 MPH bike sciât around between 2500 and 3000 dollars . When a bike cost 2000 either go pick it up or pay shipping and handling because it is made in China and everyone want that bike and you have to wait 2 months to get . Wired are smart to not include the shipping with the price . They could just asked for 2500 dollars easy and people have to wait 2 months to get it shipping free since the price is not the price of a 28 MPH bike .everyone now want that bike . When the demand is high , price might go up and the shipping waiting period too . The real price is 2500 or so and it deserves it . Comes with two batteries. Go online and see how much batteries cost … 500 dollars easy . So enjoy the two batteries and 40MPH

[@NiSiochainGanSaoirse]

Isn't it the amp HOURS x the wattage which gives you the kw hrs?

[@landsavage]

amps * volts = watts

[@benchoflemons398]

Ah x V = Wa.

[@Zensaitv]

Kinda wish it looked better in design 😢 and was 27.5 then fat tires...for rainy places not good for puddles...

[@quantumfx2677]

They offer different wheels size width with the fat tires!

[@GameMaker04]

I am waiting for reviewers to actually have the bike for a report before I buy one.

[@sspoonless]

By legal definition that is n o t an EBike. It is an electric motorcycle that will get you ticketed without motor vehicle qualifications.

[@albertharden1628]

I got the motor goat version 3 at $1895 on presale and I have a wired freedom 2024 the goat is faster top speed of 43 and wired is 39 but the wired freedom has a very small amount of more torque

[@quantumfx2677]

E cells is a bit faster. Some say 46 tops not sure but they don't want to promote that speed and let people find out on their own. Im sure bike law reasons when selling.

[@bill420247365]

All the ecell comments make me want a wired even more! If owning an ecell bike makes me act like that no thanks!

[@jamis0nify]

Wisdom comes with age.

[@SirWrecksy]

You forgot to mention one of these bikes comes with a free wobble

[@TheAbsolutShame]

And a second battery

[@oldmanebikes8392]

Wired copied them. They have been using this frame for yrs now on a higher end type now they offer it like this. But it worked that copied them. Lol.

[@quantumfx2677]

And they did significant improvements, even water proofed the controller.

[@jfly2249]

E cells never sold a 60v bike for $2000, not even close. Those arguing Wired copied e cells are mentally defective.

[@benchoflemons398]

They’re all Chinese stock parts. Nobody’s copying anything from anyone

[@jamis0nify]

@@jfly2249 I paid $1800 for my 5 star this summer. Watch the founders YT shorts for codes. I'm glad Wired fixed their rear end wobble in the latest version. Mine doesn't have that. EC frames have been proven over the years, in much higher end bikes.

[@armchairobserver4747]

This model is called " The Organ Donor "

[@georose33]

Meh, most fat tire ebikes look alike, even the ones I build from a frame. My next build will include copied BMX type handlebars, but use a mid-drive motor and a hardtail frame.

[@daqq]

But this can't be classified as an e-Bike in my state. You would essentially have an electric dirt bike with the same restrictions.

[@robanderson5624]

You can easily alter the max speed and power of either bike to class 2 in the KT controller settings if you want to be a rule follower. 😊

[@J.D.Vision]

The advantage is that the cops will look at it from a distance and keep driving without ruining your day because they look like regular e-bikes, not dirt-bikes. 🤷

[@quantumfx2677]

Drive it respectfully and you won't have a problem.

[@daqq]

The point I was trying to make is that you're not going to see many more powerful bikes because they are no longer covered by eBike laws in most states if it exceeds Class 3. That means you can not use it on bike trails or on the road shoulder. You're going to continue to see a max rated 750w because that's what many states chose (as well as federally, I believe).

[@meetoo4368]

​@@daqqnothing a 750w sticker can't fix ,major manufacturers been doing this for years ,Bosch cx line rated 250w is more like 800w without modification,bafang 750w mid drive can peak 1440w stock standard, some displays will let switch full road legal via Bluetooth on your phone ,sometimes good people break bad laws ,I'd rather take a fine and ride a safer faster pace where needed then be run over trying to do 20 kmh up a hill in a 80 zone on legal settings

[@shanold7681]

These are basically dirtbikes at this point.

[@meetoo4368]

Dirt bikes with 1kw motors ? Its actually more like ebike.with half useable power that doesn't block traffic as badly less likely to get yourself killed if your not doing 20kmh up a hill while the traffic is doing 60+

[@krazykrissince1986]

I ride dirt bikes. That is 100% false. Lmao😂

[@benchoflemons398]

Those lovely 8 horsepower dirt bikes, eh?

[@coolshariq]

These are like Dirt bikes ? What you been smoking?🤣🤣

[@carlu-dovica]

Anybody checking for wobble. Oh, speed is more important.

[@TunaSoda]

As far as I can tell the 2024+ fixed that issue.

[@tenncutt]

Too bad you are wrong. Wired copied ecells frame and everything else is better on the ecells. Go cry with E-Latina

[@diggy-d8w]

Really I expect a drop across the whole industry in the next 12-18 months..... lithium batteries are high priced but from what I've just seen the Chinese battery manufacturers opened too many & once they catch up w/ a backlog, they will be fighting to keep their doors open = competition! As for electronics for controlling things, they too are over priced so I see only good coming up soon. Electronics will get better along w/ functions.... look for better LCD's & the info about how the bike operates meaning we should be able to know all the numbers in a trip? All trip information to analyze any old time & I think it'll let you tune the bike w/ a flash method or for you to tweak numbers yourself? They will have to offer something & these are things to sell them. I love the 26" x 4" tires, I'd want at least 20" if I were paying all that b/c they offer a lot more ability to control it. TY > peace

[@Hellfire4WD]

the problem with adding more voltage, more power and more torque is durability. the reason why those bikes are not allowed on most EU roads is because A) they go too fast to be controllable by the average pedestrian (yes, those aren't cyclists or bikers, those are pedestrians on wheels) B) not regulated by law to have mechanical integrity checks at regular intervals as schooters, MC or cars. C) any company or person can technically manufacture a 2 wheeler that goes 100+ km/h but can fall apart at any moment endangering both rider, and others. So as much as I love the idea of zipping with a more powerful ebike, it would essentially be a very bad idea... Not to mention that at a certain point you might as well pay for an electric motorbike and enjoy a MUCH better stability, reliability and durability. Sure, you'll have to pay insurance and whatever taxes... sure, you'll have to abide traffic rules. But it's at least legal, you go wherever the road takes you and worry of police only when you're speeding or breaking traffic rules - not every time you set your ass on your bike. PS. I'm a hardcore ebike enthusiast, I still don't want to see many people turning the concept/lifestyle of powerful ebikes into a deathtrap infused shitshow where they get to the same fate as the small shitscooters littering the streets by the hundreds.

[@ghoul114]

Don’t blame Ecells… blame the vendor who sold it to them.. they all come from China who cares anyway, good for Ecells it’s a great company

[@jfly2249]

E cells is not UL compliant, Wired is. No one has tested the e cell clone so it’s a little premature. I also think Wired may have a few tricks up their sleeves. E cells may be getting Wired for a thermal runaway, stay tuned. 😂😂😂

[@e-cellsawde-bikes3373]

Ecells will have UL certified batteries in 90 days. Just a note about UL certification. Every bike must have a UL label affixed to the bike. It's not retroactive so all previous bikes aren't certified. If you must buy a UL certified ebike call wired and make sure your bike will have the sticker on the bike. Buyer beware.

[@quantumfx2677]

its best tested by them for a very long time with many improvements. Ul compliant it will be!

[@tenncutt]

Ecells isn't the clone, Wired is

[@lecroixband]

Fake news they are U.L. approved

[@dezfitz62]

E cells is not a clone, it's been around for 5 years at least.

[@KevinAugustt]

Careful the owner of ecells is very easily offened and is known to go off and harass people that even mention wired being the first or the best.

[@pooljunki1]

you act like all bikes arnt basically the same

[@jimjr9143]

Very little difference when it comes to bikes, e-bikes . It’s all been done already . The difference will be the components used , total out the door cost , customer service . That’s it , just choose what you prefer , it’s that simple . While i like the wired freedom e-bike from what i see in videos . Really set the standard of 60v 20ah at a $2000 price range . But i hate the huge $250 insurance they require if you want to be assured of getting a new , no damage ebike . Nearly every company , every product (includes) to your door shipping with assurance if anything is broken the part will be replaced . That is just plain silly to charge $250 for that as there has been plenty of products actually shipped already damaged . That gives wired the option to deny coverage and charge you money to fix something that could have been damaged (before) it was shipped . That exact reason is why nearly no one charges customers shipping insurance . Instead companies should make sure to package up there products really well . Check juiced bikes . They show there shipping package . Excellent protection . I only mentioned because of the shipping point .

[@benchoflemons398]

Fact!

[@BassHeadsProduction]

is this too good to be true or am I just having buyers remorse over spending $2,800 on a single battery Ariel Rider D-Class that only goes 30mph?