How To: Mitsubishi Eclipse 4G63T Timing Belt

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This video walks you thru all the steps needed to do your own timing belt, Revised lifters and camshaft swap.

[@wildimpo]

Fantastic job! The only thing I would show is wiggle the belt to show people how much slack you should or shouldn't have, for first time guy's this helps a lot

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks for watching!

[@victorbenitez9119]

Thanks for the video man, it work in my 92 eclipse, I turn the engine by hand twice and then turn the key... The first try runs perfect man 👍

[@FatGuyBuilds]

you are welcome!

[@hl44]

Great work man! Nice and clean! Really great video! I'll be doing this timing belt job at my home soon, and this video gave me way more courage! lol Thanks a lot! Regards!

[@FatGuyBuilds]

No problem please subscribe and like the videos.

[@mitsuturbo]

VC fastener instruction is spot on. 100% accurate.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks For Watching!!!

[@jdmguy185]

great video I successfully did my timin belt cam crank sensors bs belt tensioners etc with this and vfaq. I gotta go back to change my idler pulley balance pulley and cam seals but overall you rock dude.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks For Watching!!!

[@destruck]

Great video, very detailed for people who need a simple guide. I am also interested in the ss rwd build progress!!

[@FatGuyBuilds]

+Salvador Paniagua Thanks. The fuel system is in the mail. progress will be coming this year. lots of progress.

[@gsxdude8288]

Hey just wanted to say, this video helped me out so much. Thank you!

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks For Watching!!!

[@Norg89]

This is a really clean DSM. The engine bay bolts and exhaust shields even have the factory marking still!

[@FatGuyBuilds]

would you like to buy it?

[@Norg89]

Of course I would like to! But unfortunetly I am not a buyer at this time. =(

[@FatGuyBuilds]

R N 5500$.... i believe in you, YOU CAN DO IT

[@aminembry7284]

3500 cash!

[@FatGuyBuilds]

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[@Coptin]

Watching this to help my friend with his 1g Eclipse

[@FatGuyBuilds]

same steps. remember do not turn key right away. spin the engine slowly by hand

[@lespinoza2307]

Great video! I'm currently doing the timing belt and the corresponding parts. This is definitely helping me out! keep up the good work. liked, new subscriber and a favorite! thanks again

[@FatGuyBuilds]

please share :)

[@lespinoza2307]

Jason Georgievski will do bro!

[@chovis38]

Stunned how clean this engine bay is.... looks like a 2016 4g63 eclipse. Flock

[@FatGuyBuilds]

the kid who bought it got a steal too.

[@chovis38]

@@FatGuyBuilds Absolutely

[@petmitsu]

Great video and instruction!! Although I think you need to add something about bleeding the lifters before installing them, just to be safe. Maybe splice in a section of bleeding them before the part where you installed them.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

i did, I told people to turn it over by hand. that is plenty to bleed them out. if people just turn the key, I cant help them.

[@petmitsu]

@@FatGuyBuilds turning over the engine by hand a few times doesn't guarantee that all the lifters get bled. You need to bleed them all by hand individually as shown here on dsmtuners.com. www.dsmtuners.com/threads/how-to-replace-lash-adjusters-lifters.265060/ Even the factory shop manual states as such.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

@@petmitsu if turn it over by hand the cam will push on every lifter and bleed them. How can the cams push on the lifter slowly yet not bleed them? That logic doesnt make sense

[@yenyen33089]

good work. i also just did my 95 eclipse gsx. what i did is i modified my timing cover and i didnt put some fasteners where its hard to get to but still the cover doesnt move. saves me for the next time some shit decides to say bye bye i shouldve recorded it, i did swear alot more than you tho haha

[@FatGuyBuilds]

you are welcome!

[@Spinnerpvp]

thumbs up for that sick MCM beat

[@nigelneverson6197]

S we be pinner

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks For Watching!!!

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks For Watching!!!

[@SamsAutomotiveS]

Nice job lovely..thanks man

[@FatGuyBuilds]

you are welcome!

[@williamking8684]

Awesome step by step

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Some people ignore the step where i say to rotate it a few times slowly to drain the lifters

[@jorgemiguel17]

Awesome...nice tutorial..👍👍

[@FatGuyBuilds]

thank you

[@adamcz3183]

How did you straighten out the intake Cam to have it pointing back up? when you laid it in there and were tightening the caps it was quite a bit off but on the next scene it was back where it was supposed to be.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

as you rotate the belt when it is on the tensioner takes out the slack... turn it slowly by hand and you should be fine. unless the tensioner pulley is not tight enough.

[@briankeeney6427]

Can you follow this same procedure to pull the head for head studs and valve springs?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Yes

[@mwmarilyn50]

great job!

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks!

[@EcBuddy123]

So just got a 97 talon, it has a surging idle and when driving does surge every now and then. When I got it they said timing belt had recently done along with o2 sensors and a few other things. But any idea what might be causing the surge?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

bad tune, IAC motor...

[@onizuka186]

what do you do with the clutch master cylinder reservoir?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Eikichi Onizuka this is an auto

[@SailingGoonies]

Whats going on with the SS/4g swap? Love that build.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

+DisplayName Thanks. The fuel system is in the mail. progress will be coming this year. lots of progress.

[@NobleONE17]

I'm confused on a certain part, where you said you messed up on getting the timing belt tools( 2 dot centric and long bolt tool)and by putting on torqued to spec completely horizontal and pulling the grenade pin itll be perfectly timed??? Without the use of a tools with the 2 dots and the long bolt that goes on tensioner arm and the eccentric pully...

[@FatGuyBuilds]

please reference the time in the video you are talking about. I think i was just complaining because i didnt buy the long bolt to hold the tensioner compressed.

[@NobleONE17]

@@FatGuyBuilds 38:07

[@onizuka186]

Where can i find that user manual for the torque specs?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Eikichi Onizuka ebay

[@kadelubensky7176]

Is it possible to put the cam gears on wrong? Both my cam gears timing marks point in the same direction, both pointing up, or down, left, right. Never do the 2 marks point right at each other.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

that means you didn't set timing right. or you jumped timing.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

take the belt off and reset the timing.

[@pixelpadre]

You definitely want to change out the cam sensor behind the intake cam sprocket. Mine disintegrated all by it self. Pieces everywhere.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

No need to change unless it looks bad or failed already

[@saracen7774]

i did my belt exactly like this checking the grenade pin went in easily.been driving car a year...got a see through cover on .noticed a slight up and dwn wobble on belt between the 2 cams when i rev engine hard.is this normal on 4g63s?

[@jdmguy185]

no that is not normal the tension is incorrect and you risk skipping a timing tooth and smashing a valve against your piston. well you can probably still drive it like that but dont rev up high and fix the tension asap

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks For Watching!!!

[@ExiledExistence76]

Really needed this video I just bought a 95' eagle talon that had a 2g 4g63 in it but the previous owner that put it in there didn't take out any of the old engine connections so it's a little confusing also I don't have and engine holder so I have to work on the ground with the car that 3 in off the ground and just have tools I could buy to have on hand really would love your thoughts on this car and engine cause I'm in a bind on money and tools.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

what exactly do you need help with?

[@ExiledExistence76]

What is the book that you got for your car I just need all the specs right now I'm trying to work with what I got 1 truck Jack 1 car Jack and a set of tools from home depot. I was working as a diesel mechanic shop so I mainly used there tools so a list of tool I would need would also if if you have time. Thank you for replying back.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

I have been collecting tools for 10 years. whenever you need a tool buy it. i don't use any book. just google for values and memorize them.

[@ExiledExistence76]

OK thanks for taking the time to reply.

[@ExiledExistence76]

Hey I just had time this week to work on the car got everything timed and done but the car cranks but doesn't start what could it be?

[@gbob1980]

Thank you sir. Iv sub to ur channel.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks for the sub!

[@ME4O1]

Great video! BTW are you bulgarian because of your last name?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

macedonian

[@curoar5500]

Which gen 4G63T is this? My one has timing belt and cam gears on the left side of the engine.

[@JOJOMIII]

2g

[@FatGuyBuilds]

1996

[@esoterikk1]

Why is the cam sensor on the cam side? Mines on the other side of the head?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

95-96 cam gear side. 97-99 tranny side

[@bishikid]

How long did this take you, a whole weekend or just 1 day?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

3 hrs

[@JohnnyBlaze6954]

I just did my timing belt, balance belt, pulleys and valve cover gasket on my 97' GST and now have low vacuum at idle, -10HG with a slightly rough idle. Once i changed the balance shaft/timing belt and confirming timing marks on cams and on all pulleys were correct, I rotated the crank sprocket clockwise by hand a few times to ensure the timing was still in alignment. Once confirmed, i started my engine and it idled fine. I put the 3 drive/accessory belts back on and everything and then changed my valve cover gasket. once everything was finished, i stated the car again and my vacuum reads a low -10HG when before the work was the usual -18/19HG at idle. It does not idle smooth and I can't figure out why my vacuum is -10HG at idle... If the timing or balance shaft belt timing is off by 1 tooth, can this cause -10HG at idle? Do you think I tightened my calve cover incorrectly? Can over tightening the CAMS cause this to happen? I didn't touch anything on the BOv side of the engine to cause a leak in the intake system, I just raised and lowered the engine while swapping belts... any insight would be GREATLY appreciated!

[@FatGuyBuilds]

JohnnyBlaze6954 sounds like your timing is off. did u change cams?

[@JohnnyBlaze6954]

I did not change cams. I meant to say the cam sprocket , my apologies. after doing some research, i believe my exhaust cam sprocket may be off by 1 tooth.. Im waiting for new motor mounts to arrive in the mail so am waiting until they arrive to try again. do you have any suggestions on how to ensure timing is perfectly aligned other than aligning the timing marks all around & turning the crank clockwise by hand to make sure all marks line up again with no resistance? Do you think that the wrong tension on the Timing belt (tenioner) can cause the timing to be off? I will admit that I did not wait 15 minutes or so to see if the grenade pin was able to slide in and out freely, I just pulled it out and didn't check....

[@roughcamaro]

JohnnyBlaze6954 you're definitely off by one tooth on exhaust side. Rotate cam slightly clockwise before attaching the timing belt to both gears.

[@roughcamaro]

it will look out of time till the belt deflection/ slack is taken out by the cams wanting to rest.

[@JohnnyBlaze6954]

thanks for the advice. When i put the belt on, the mark were definitely lined up, i did not take into account the exhaust cam would rotate CCW by a tooth once the tension on the belt was properly adjusted and set!

[@johnwayne124]

minute 4.25 cracking a cold one with the boys

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks For Watching!!!

[@brianr5624]

Should i buy this ecplise whos timing belt snapped .?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

For how much. U will most likely have bent valves

[@brianr5624]

I kmew it fuk that guy

[@Spaceboy.Evo3]

Where I can get that book?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

the shop manuals? i can sell you my set. [e-mail]

[@SamsAutomotiveS]

39.40 God damnit lol I almost shiit when I heared

[@FatGuyBuilds]

you are welcome!

[@dohc16vturbo4g63]

How many hours for the timing, balance shaft belt and water pump? Not including the cams

[@FatGuyBuilds]

4-6 depending on skill.

[@dohc16vturbo4g63]

@@FatGuyBuilds awesome. I'm having a mechanic do it; just wanted to figure out labor cost. Thanks!

[@FatGuyBuilds]

@@dohc16vturbo4g63 labor costs should only be what mitsubishi calls out as "book time"

[@dohc16vturbo4g63]

@@FatGuyBuilds they're charging 105 an hour, so should be between 420-660.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

@@dohc16vturbo4g63 manufacturers have a set amount of hours each job should tke. That is how many hours he should charge. Look that up so u know exactly or call and ask what book time is on the job.

[@okaythen001]

more focus st videos tahnks!

[@FatGuyBuilds]

coming soon

[@okaythen001]

+Jason Georgievski wow very nice, what's it going to be about?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

busted fog light replacement. then oil cooler install since these cars suck on the time attack when they get toooo hot. then who knows

[@FatGuyBuilds]

monte carlo videos coming soon toooo

[@SorryAlreadyInUse]

Do you have to balance it?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Balance what? I did not replace the balance shaft belt

[@christianbavnild]

How long does this take to change? 🤔

[@FatGuyBuilds]

if you are taking your time, 2-3 hrs

[@jmdsm9392]

Looked good except you didn't bleed the new lifters before installing

[@FatGuyBuilds]

I did. i spun the motor 3 times by hand slowly this will bleed them perfectly. i made sure to explain that step.

[@helmutodrith7366]

Same Motor as the one of my car. Mine just fucked up. We did repair it, but it just fuck up again with the same problem: lack of strenth going up hills or at starting and then blowed up spark #4. Both times, the same problem.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

what do you mean blowed up spark? blows out spark? your spark plug gap should be 0.030"

[@helmutodrith7366]

@@FatGuyBuilds Sorry. The spark plug #4. It blew up into pieces inside the chamber. And the second time, the electrode just melted.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

@@helmutodrith7366 if the spark plug melted, you have a tune or fueling problem. what was your AFR? I bet you didnt flow test or clean the injectors when you put everything back together. it has to be very hot inside to melt the electrode. take the injectors to get tested and cleaned. i bet there is one that is clogged.

[@helmutodrith7366]

@@FatGuyBuilds You're right. Both gasoline filters were filthy (very dirty). I notice that when the tank was half full or fuller, the car run better than when it was almost empty. But also l guess the module to the Coil has some problem. Any way l'm not interested in this car any more.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

@@helmutodrith7366 where are you located. drop it off at my house.

[@justinmahon4565]

Bent valves on cylinder 4. Thanks

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Obviously u didnt line everything up. How the hell did u bend valves? I showed and explained everything. What did you do wrong so u dont do it again?

[@justinmahon4565]

Put everything together how you did exactly, left new 3g revised lifters sitting in oil overnight, put them in torqued everything exactly how you did, put everything together, lifters wouldn’t compress aka weren’t bled/ started car ran sounded weird shut car off, thought timing was off, redid timing 10 times trying to figure out why it was sounds weird, did everything until I compression tested it, boom no compression in cylinder 4, tore everything back apart looked at lifters still stiff as a board, pulled everything bled them put everything back together, still no compression, took everything back apart including cams, so all valves should’ve been seated, no compression= Bent valves

[@FatGuyBuilds]

@@justinmahon4565 did u spin the enginge with a breakerbar 4 times and verify the timing lines?

[@justinmahon4565]

Yes. Unbled lifters will cause bent valves even by hand apparently

[@FatGuyBuilds]

@@justinmahon4565 no way u bent them by hand.

[@alfiobonifaza.323]

no hay uno en español???

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Thanks For Watching!!!

[@ihatejavier]

This a 7 or a 6 bolt

[@FatGuyBuilds]

Steps are the same pretty much. But this is a 7 bolt.

[@ihatejavier]

@@FatGuyBuilds oh ok cool thanks mine is a 7 bolt as well and if I’m re doing the timing belt is re timing the balance shafts necessary or can I skip that ?

[@FatGuyBuilds]

@@ihatejavier yes it is necessary

[@justinmahon4565]

I pray to god I didn’t bend a valve following your vid/ you didn’t show anything about bleeding the new lifters before installing them

[@FatGuyBuilds]

I have never had to bleed them. i have done this like 10 times. by the time you rotate the engine 2 times to verify timing they will have been bled.

[@jdmguy185]

okay this is a complex situation because we have interference engines so yes the reason why you lost compression on cylinder 4 is because the lifters were not bled. My uncle informed of this. When you tighten down the cam caps with unbled lifters the valve has no room to come up I mean theoretically you could run the engine with the cam caps slightly loose and that would allow the lifters to come back up but we have interference engines so thats impossible without fuckin up something. I dont know how fatguybuilds did not run into this issue or if the issue of unbled lifters is a freak accident of sorts

[@FatGuyBuilds]

@@jdmguy185 because... if you go around 4 times by hand it will bleed them and you will not have enough pressure to bend anything

[@jdmguy185]

+FatGuyBuilds oh okay i see now that is interesting and while I wont be changing mine out thats good to know thanks!

[@theuppercut]

1:41 👁 👁!!!!!

[@FatGuyBuilds]

My new house i am building will have a lift with more light. Sorry

[@jdmguy185]

and then well start puttin the covers and all that dumb shit back on hahaha

[@FatGuyBuilds]

lol

[@elpiandari7000]

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[@FatGuyBuilds]

huh?

[@jamesrosenau9759]

Soon as you took the Lord's name in vain I stopped watching. Thumbs down.

[@FatGuyBuilds]

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