To compress the pistons I use the old brake pads to evenly apply pressure to push them in. I’ve never needed to use a tool to compress these pistons. For track days I have been able to swap out all pads on all four wheels in less than 45 minutes. This is a very easy job. Thx for the video.
@yupiter73 ай бұрын
how do you push then to both sides at same time? will two screwdrivers do a job if i push both opposite way so both side will push in and will be enough space for new pads yes?
@cabottaxi3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video giving clear step by step information on how to replace disc and pads out of a F30. My F31 (33000 miles ) is up for a front brake pad change and BMW have quoted £835 to replace all 4 corners. Costed out at £312 for parts so i am just going to do it myself.
@CosminGCole972 жыл бұрын
BMW charges a ridiculous amount for brakes service. Definitely worth learning to do it yourself.
@yupiter73 ай бұрын
@@CosminGCole97they charge for everything like that 🤣
@jasoneyes013 жыл бұрын
Great brake job! TRW pads are showing alot of curiosity from Akebono fans. ZF now owns TRW for those who didn't know which gives confidence. Polishing those pins is very important indeed. You can lose wheel horsepower from delayed pad retraction. Another hidden often forgotten wheel horsepower thief is the caliper pistons. The seal builds crud around the pistons. Removing and polishing the pistons then putting a light coat of molykote silicone grease can give you a performance edge.
@DearMajesty Жыл бұрын
Good to know, can you recommend a place to purchase said silicone grease?
@MichaelJoseph-vb5ml4 ай бұрын
I'm the UK. TRW are OEM for almost everything lately.
@vapeurdepisse Жыл бұрын
This channel and retailer are a great help to the BMW community, thanks guys!
@stuartwickson8535 Жыл бұрын
Thanks FCP, this was a great video with really clear well thought out instructions. Never changed brakes and rotors before and following this video was super easy to do. Also saved around $1k of garage labor!!!
@DWI_Community Жыл бұрын
You guys make the clearest DIY vids. Thanks so much 🙌
@steveng550310 ай бұрын
The Zimmerman after market one piece discs are notorious for warping. There’s a reason why the original Brembo discs are in two parts. If pins are pitted/corroded, replace them along with the clip. It’s recommended by Brembo to open the bleed nipples when retracting the pistons. The BMW ABS pump doesn’t like fluid forced back through the unit and is understood to cause premature failure of the pump. Just unnecessary to do so.due to size of brakes they are noisy. There’s a lubricant provided by Brembo to help reduce this that also helps prevent galvanic corrosion, use it.
@giloh.13593 жыл бұрын
Great!! Thank you guys!! Please help us to know how to flush the cooling system in the B58 and B48... it's so confused that double expansion tank!!!
@TimeisMoney22 Жыл бұрын
Great job as always Garrett! I'm putting these calipers on my e32 and wanted a better understanding of how they went together etc and this did it 👍
@mikimiki1953 жыл бұрын
Another one from FCP euro 😂👍🏻
@nycshelbygt5002 жыл бұрын
Recommend changing rotors with every brake pad change on a BMW F3X with M-Sport Brakes? My BMW E9X M3 recommends new rotors with every brake pad change, which gets expensive.
@ibrahimalmotawa9673 жыл бұрын
Is zimmermann better than Brembo from your experience?
@torquesteer26576 ай бұрын
Top job thanks for sharing 👍🏻 Gotta do on mine this week
@02shredder2 жыл бұрын
Great video. By coincidence I have fitted the Zinnerman Disc with the Z Coat. Yes the callipers are very light but the discs are really heavy (370mm). With regards to the brake fluid I use a small syringe / pipet to suck the displaced brake fluid out as the eight pistons will displace a fair amount of fluid which will spill from the reservoir.
@cw90232 жыл бұрын
Have you had any complaints about noise with this setup? I have the same rotors, but with akebono pads, and the noise is annoyingly loud, but only when driving. I think the pads are slightly hitting the slots in the rotor and makes the noise. On the highway next to barriers its very audible. When braking, it is smooth. I just can't get it to go away, bleed, push the pads back, etc. I'm very confused. Any advice?
@PerformanceTech Жыл бұрын
same problem here
@danysmitzer8 ай бұрын
got the same problem after I switched to brembo dimpled discs & silver ceramic pads. The noise comes from the front wheels only though... Have you managed to figure this out?
@dsslimone Жыл бұрын
Excellent well filmed informative video. Great camera angles. I have these brakes on my car and this was a great help in helping me diagnose a vibration problem ❤❤ thanks very much.
@Neosakai3 жыл бұрын
How come at 1:15 you said floating style calipers? Arent these fixed piston calipers?
@yupiter73 ай бұрын
how about some grease like ceramic grease or copper grease? do need to apply it anywhere to avoid squeaking noises??
@blisteredthumbsdeas2 жыл бұрын
Cracking video and great setup though these are fixed caliper and don't forget to pump the brake before the road test 💥🚗
@OscarCastillo13 жыл бұрын
Is there anything that can be done to eliminate or minimize the ticking sound the M Performance brakes make at any speed? Really annoying after a while. Will just drilled, but not slotted rotors help with that?
@jc359573 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to figure this one out for 3 years
@OscarCastillo13 жыл бұрын
@@jc35957 don’t give up.
@cw90232 жыл бұрын
Did you ever figure this out? Just put mine on and they are driving me crazy lol
@OscarCastillo12 жыл бұрын
@@cw9023 Unfortunately no. I'm about to swap out the brake pads and see if perhaps that might make a difference. When it's time for rotors I'm just going with some F80 rotors.
@xxthe_remedyxx5296 Жыл бұрын
Quick question. I need to replace all 4 of my rotors. My pads were recently changed and they are new. My question is, can I remove the rotors without having to disassemble the pads as well by just removing the caliper bolts and removing as one unit?
@RuCaGu4 ай бұрын
This video is simply awesome. Thank you for sharing your insights. 🙂
@fcpeuro4 ай бұрын
😬
@AccessAutoLLC Жыл бұрын
great video like always! is there a need to bleed the brake fluid when doing these pads?
@jamestatton545011 ай бұрын
Quick question, why Brembo discs and TRW pads as opposed to Brembo all round? Thanks
@vladimirlepen64823 жыл бұрын
You should clean the pistons before pushing them back to caliper, otherwise you might damage the seals
@talkingwithcarsАй бұрын
Question, have you ever used adhesives between the pads and pistons ? Specifically on the newer G20 m brakes ?
@fcpeuro29 күн бұрын
Some pads have adhesive backings on them, it depends on the manufacturer. We have not added any adhesive to anything that did not already come with it.
@talkingwithcars29 күн бұрын
@ ok. so for my EBCs, I believe they don't have any so I'll leave them alone. thx
@Tk992452 жыл бұрын
How do you troubleshoot, knocking after changing rotors and pads?
@the2un13 жыл бұрын
Wow right on time man, my light just went off
@mindlessness23903 ай бұрын
is it possible to fit these calipers into a G20 330i?
@willrumph41483 жыл бұрын
Can we get an F85/F86 Brake job instruction? I saw the F15/F16 video.
@tturbosteve75618 ай бұрын
Are these callipers the same as the m sport blue callipers or are the blue ones different (apart from colour)
@stebrad1236 ай бұрын
You didnt put any kind of copper slip behind the pads or on the pins? I find my m sport brakes squeal a lot if i dont apply grease.
@fcpeuro6 ай бұрын
Always a good idea to use a bit on the pins and back of pads!
@xhikuza5374 Жыл бұрын
What if you end up using the old bolts to put it back together but I cleaned them will that be a problem??
@iwant0073 жыл бұрын
Are the TRW pads better then stock?
@27BILLY992 жыл бұрын
so my 2017 330i wagon has the blue m sport calipers but what seems like regular rotors.. can i just update the rotors alone to a drilled and slotted set and be fine?
@roleen335is5 Жыл бұрын
Do you put anti seize or anything on the hub after cleaning and before putting the rotor on?
@erolgokkaya39778 ай бұрын
Why did he switch the bolts? He removed 18mm bolts and installed z torque. So we have to buy the z torque bolt?
@Jay-May3 жыл бұрын
Brake pins remind me of my 2002tii, pins are so much easier! Granted the brakes from my 2002tii that was totaled went into my 1967 2000ti along with the subframe and the TII motor. Four piston calipers are always the best!
@fcpeuro3 жыл бұрын
They truly are!
@IKhanNot3 жыл бұрын
Alrighty I got some new pads, rotors, jacks and tools. Now I just need a BMW F30 with an M Sport package :)
@pragatish76013 жыл бұрын
You've got just the right attitude man
@the_batmobile0.43 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@Ratalala3 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same old rotors and just ordered the same Zimmermann Coated Z with zimmermann pads 👍🏽 I’m thinking to paint them black before installing;)
@fcpeuro3 жыл бұрын
You can absolutely paint the top hats and fins!
@aryangautam5000 Жыл бұрын
Can you recommended Ceramic Brake pads for my g20 I have the mperformance BBK 4 piston kit installed in it.
@1japaful3 жыл бұрын
Doze the break bad changes in size or we can use the usually break pad that com from factory ?
@Melomeetsworld2 жыл бұрын
Is the M Sport brakes the same as the brembos, are those the same thing vs the stock or are there three versions of brakes for the F-30?
@kennypham85852 жыл бұрын
What kind of digital torque wrench is it? I would like to know if you guy sell it
@fcpeuro2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kenny, we do not sell that, but Gareth is using a Matco digital torque wrench!
@Swizzlestik3 жыл бұрын
Can you anti-seize the pins that pass through the rattle clip once you clean them to help protect them from corrosion?
@fcpeuro3 жыл бұрын
You can, however we advise to keep it light and clean, as you do not want the paste getting on to your pads or rotors.
@Mr-ni2cc Жыл бұрын
Please do a brake change for a G30 5 series! Cheers!
@fcpeuro Жыл бұрын
Working on it!
@OmarOttoman3 жыл бұрын
Would this kit work on a 1.5 litre 318 2016 (f 30) model? If yes, would it be an upgrade? Or other hardware/software need change as well. Thanks
@DearMajesty Жыл бұрын
Is it necessary to replace the caliper bolts? Also is it necessary to replace the brake pad spring clip? How do you tell if either need replacing?
@fcpeuro Жыл бұрын
Hi MotoBoy, both are reusable and typically last a long time. You may want to replace them if they have been damaged, or for aesthetics .
@piecetoyou8285 Жыл бұрын
when changing the brake pad wear sensor do i have to disconnect the battery first be for pulling the changing the sensor? Also if i disconnect the battery will i have to have the car reprogramed to the battery again,? I worry disconnecting electrical parts of the car with battery connected as I think it might trigger the car into thinking some thing has failed.
@ron85667 ай бұрын
No need to disconnect the battery.
@dirod27 Жыл бұрын
Do you have the picture of the comparison between the old and the new pads?
@fcpeuro Жыл бұрын
Sorry, we were not really snapping any photos during this DIY!
@IvanPerez-dv5et3 жыл бұрын
These are just like my 2013 Tundra brakes. Good video
@tomaszstanczak93262 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot. so wonderfully explained and shown. Could you, please, do the same for bmw3 g20? We would appriciate it very much. God bless!
@DarkClosetOfTheMind2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a recommendation for a piston compression tool, for the 6 piston calipers in the latest gen M2 Competition and/or the '21 WRX STi?
@fcpeuro2 жыл бұрын
We have Lisle 29100 available which should do the trick! You can use the tool along with the old pads to act as "backing plates" while you compress the pistons back.
@rccola4543 жыл бұрын
I need to do me brakes in the next few weeks, how do you determine if you need to replace the rotors at the same time? I have a '17 340 xdrive with about 36k miles on it.
@DonCharlos893 жыл бұрын
Brake rotors should last longer than pads - especially if this is the first brake job since the car left the factory and it has OE parts. I am about to do the pads on my 2016 340i - it has 52K miles and I will not be replacing the rotors unless I see any obvious damage. As a check, measure the thickness of the rotor, most manufacturers have a recommended minimum thickness they can reach before needing replacement.
@ash20500 Жыл бұрын
I’ve just fitted mine and I can hear the pads clunk during breaking to a stop. This happens a few times during a drive. Is this normal?
@kc2213 Жыл бұрын
Was it a constant knock or a single knock/clunk when braking to a stop? And did you end up finding out what was causing it?
@bigbuff20068 ай бұрын
I have the same problem now I have a clunky noise when I brake for the first time going forward or in reverse. Sounds like the pads move slightly 🤷🏻♂️ I have bremo pads now pins and clips and still no difference
@chriskamen215210 ай бұрын
When standing still if I hit the brakes I hear a metallic sqwanching sound. Any idea why???
@ron85667 ай бұрын
You may have a pad installed backwards. i.e. inside out.
@terrancecollins2696 Жыл бұрын
Even easier than my old ISF which was also very easy lol
@davec52373 жыл бұрын
Need to do my brakes, non m sport. Thanks for posting 👍
@fcpeuro3 жыл бұрын
Non M-Sport Front and Rear brake vids coming out next week for you Dave!
@michaelnikprelaj66793 жыл бұрын
@@fcpeuro cant wait. need to do mine as well
@kid25193 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS DIY's! Keep them coming! I think it will be nice to have some B48 and B58 engine DIYs too. Like engine valve cover gasket and the oil housing gasket, they look a little tricky for B48 and B58 engines. There isn't available right now.
@PautKalun2 жыл бұрын
no brake grease?
@raymondoesterreich38803 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the reason they replaced those 18mm bolts is to prevent people who don’t use torque wrenches from over torquing the bolts
@ilovetitanium41363 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of these solid aftermarket rotors. When I see guys installing cheaper aftermarket parts I wonder what else has been done on the cheap.
@tre_2EC03 жыл бұрын
Zimmerman is still a high quality brand. They explain in the video that this is a lower-cost alternative (being half as expensive) for the floating rotors from the same brand. The weight savings are there but are they worth spending twice as much on rotors? That's up to the owner.
@jasoneyes013 жыл бұрын
Zimmerman is the highest quality. They are precision balanced, zero varience, and tempered to prevent warping. If you drive in the tripple digits your steering wheel will have zero vibration from the brakes.
@thesharpshootersfl2 жыл бұрын
What about bedding the brakes ?
@fcpeuro2 жыл бұрын
Hi SS, bed in the procedure is going to be pretty standard for these pads. Often times manufacturers will include specifics, depending on the type of pad you are installing.
@michaelnikprelaj66793 жыл бұрын
I just had done my front brakes today, and tried moving them as shown at 13:34 but they didn’t move like that at all. Had trouble with corrosion on the pins and tried cleaning them up as much as possible as well. After the job I noticed it sounded like the pads were scraping on the new rotor face, but went away after 10 miles of driving. Did I do everything correct? @fcpeuro
@metman33 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for doing these! Looking forward to the "non M-Sport" brake job videos. Thanks guys! (Did we decide to reinstall the old brakes before putting the wheel back on at the end..? Ha!) 😆😉
@tre_2EC03 жыл бұрын
I think its actually the shot of him taking off the wheel but in reverse ;)
@bbc96512 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but I would clean calibers as well, so they would look nice :)
@fcpeuro2 жыл бұрын
Good call!
@erikthompson59923 жыл бұрын
Where can we purchase the caliper bolts?
@AntLive292 жыл бұрын
From BMW
@gringotom2422 жыл бұрын
Really helpful thank you!!!
@fcpeuro2 жыл бұрын
Anytime!
@willthroIt3 жыл бұрын
👍gonna do it tomorrow good vid..
@fcpeuro3 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@dopiaza20068 ай бұрын
Very unusual for a bolt that needs repalcing (stretch bolt) to just have a torque setting, not torque plus degrees.
@SuperSadom Жыл бұрын
So cool
@Adh666gaming Жыл бұрын
Informative video but didn’t clean brake dust off the inside of the callipers and no copper ease on the back of the new pads either 😬 they gonna be squealing in a couple of weeks 😂
@tecksiongkung71213 жыл бұрын
no one else notice there is a missing bolt at one of the lower control arm? or a hint of new video coming soon?haha
@coleBlap Жыл бұрын
Yooo! If there’s anyone in the comments that would consider letting go of their Msport brake calipers, hit me upp!
@johnshaw8013 Жыл бұрын
Ypu got your outro mixed up with another video 😂
@racingdaily36742 жыл бұрын
These rotors with Brembo pads are pretty noisy. It definitely gives off a race car vibe...
@powayimports41753 жыл бұрын
Squeak alert!!!
@spacedesigner84911 ай бұрын
What would you do different?
@powayimports417511 ай бұрын
@@spacedesigner849in my experience using genuine BMW is the only way to go. Not so called “oem”. But my comment was, mostly sarcastic…
@alexanderhopkins2807 Жыл бұрын
Two piece rotors are terrible, they always warp! One piece worked fine for 40+ years!