FDM resin printing: Game changer or stupid?

[@properprinting]

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[@jonathanmyers8477]

To get the resin to better sit where it is extruded, you might try adding a low boiling point solvent and using the part cooling or heater block to boil it off just after extrusion. Hexane or IPA might be perfect. Of course, it might ruin the resin.

[@woodwaker1]

What size nozzle are you using? You could ask Max for suggestions

[@michaelherron362]

Once things are better worked out, an obvious suggestion would be to replace the attached lasers with a fiber optic light feed. LEDs might be cheaper too.

[@ThomasIJsseldijk]

try adding grinded down cured resin as a thickening agent. should have the same density as uncured resin.

[@Doktoreq]

Moving the UV light out of the nozzle should improve things quite a bit - less resin stuck to the nozzle means less failures and more consistent "extrusion". Ideal setup would be ring light like arrangement where the nozzle stays dark and the curing process starts some distance from the nozzle. Might be worth experimenting with using clear resin prints as a light pipe (transparent plastic part stuck to the LEDs).

[@TheMrRockOn]

You, my guy, are on WHOOOOLE another level.... The creativity in your brain is just out of this world for both Video (editing and ideas) and Engineering. Hands down.

[@properprinting]

Thanks man, really appreciated!

[@DeanTheDoctor]

Thanks for saying that my friend. 😇🌎✨

[@ssean4005]

Could u please share the STL model of the extruder online???? thanks

[@marsgizmo]

pretty cool progress 👏😎 ..love your hidden humor, always cracks me 😂

[@properprinting]

Thanks Adrian!

[@sikz26300]

I kept pausing the video and going back to make sure i didn't miss any easter eggs lol

[@KosmoGoat]

I remember seeing a printer with same concept as this at FormNext last year by Massivit 3D. As far as I recall they use a photocurable and water-soluble "gel" with exactly the same process for hardening as shown here. They also have a second extruder with thermoset resin. So you can print a soluble mold with this uv-fdm process and fill it with thermoset resin at the same time. Anyway, it's an amazing start!

[@jzagaja]

So instant curing or after finishing the layer?

[@ulrichkliegis4138]

What is the patent scenario around this concept? Patent attorneys can be painfully humorless.

[@jzagaja]

@@ulrichkliegis4138 ViscoTec Pumpen- u. Dosiertechnik Gmb produces Moineau pump extruder called vipro-HEAD, around 4k euro.

[@ulrichkliegis4138]

@@jzagaja What does this have to do with a potential patent conflict situation?

[@jzagaja]

@@ulrichkliegis4138 same principle?

[@Sovol]

We are glad to sponsor this video! I really admire your interesting idea and the ability to work it out! Additionally, hope to see more people check out the SV06 by the link in the description of the video😁

[@properprinting]

I'm glad you sponsored it! Thanks! I also hope that they do, we we're surprised by this printer and it showed that you put thought into it.

[@squirlboy250]

How do you feel about 3D printed firearms?

[@alestbest]

Do you really think you could print a firearm with resin? Rather, you can print a brain. You can get your hopes up.

[@Demonicwolf9]

@@squirlboy250 dangerously stupid

[@squirlboy250]

@@Demonicwolf9 No, not at all. We have came a long way in tech and there is a lot of really good people out there putting in the work. I was asking for his opinion on the subject matter and nothing more.

[@scottylore13]

This project is amazing. To prevent the resin from sticking to the nozzle, a cone around the nozzle might help or angle the UV lights in a different way. Ensuring there is no way the resin cures near the nozzle. As others already pointed out an enclosure might help as well to avoid unwanted light and keep the temperature more constant. Best regards

[@Spectron2077]

I was thinking a little of that ptfe coating stuff that slice engineering sells or ptfe spray applied to the nozle using a towel.

[@TheEdgeofTech]

Another killer video man! It's so awesome to see your ideas and goals working!! I can't wait to see where you take this!

[@Personnenenparle]

To get more control on the flow, you should try a couple things. 1. Funnel feeding 2. Stronger pump that feeds an elaßtic reservoir like a think silicone tube 3. A pinch valve. I used that setup to make a reaserch platform for molecular gastronomy, it works great.

[@testboga5991]

That would be highly nonlinear and not a good idea at all.

[@allangibson8494]

Or just a standard motor driven syringe system with a 1mm bore capillary tube to the print head.

[@802Garage]

So is the goal to basically print resin impregnated yarn?

[@properprinting]

Yes!

[@powersv2]

The production level goes up every video. The yarn and project board were the nice touch this time.

[@TurboSunShine]

Nice! Looking forward to seeing the continuous fiber printing! :D

[@haenselundgretel654]

Soooooo good to see that you're making progress. I hope to see more fine tuning and where this train rides to. I wish you all the best !

[@rubendj90]

Bedankt

[@properprinting]

Jij ook bedankt!

[@artisticmike]

Try angling the uv lights so that the beam is at least a few mm from the nozzle. And at that point I think you could use a little less thickener to keep it from balling up, because those uv lights seem to cure pretty fast.

[@voltzFPV]

I was having a bad day.. Until this video's notification came! Thanks for uploading these awesome "adventures" of yours!

[@marcom1600]

Simply AMAZING. Hope you get it perfect and someone sponsor your idea in the market. You deserve it👍

[@kareemelabkary7611]

Never stop experimenting, omg this is what the community needs! more creative people who are willing to push the limits of current technology while thinking outside the box!!

[@ЕмилБорисов-ю7н]

I love how you stay consistent and growing! Keep it up!

[@strictnonconformist7369]

Congratulations on taking a standard FDM printer, adding some fun chemistry/materials and added hardware, and creating the beast of both worlds! Surprisingly good results thus far. The challenges are it seems to be subject to the failure modes you can expect from both types of printing and printers combined, including the issue of the fumes you need to avoid breathing. Hopefully it can be figured out well enough to counter the cost of the problems with better results than either type alone can do. I see your methodology and if it can be done, it won't be too long before it is done. Sovol must love watching their printers being hacked like this! Should you get it working well enough, perhaps they'll sell a kit based off your work.

[@Tritiumfusion]

I've been hype about this video FOR MORE THAN 2 WEEKS!

[@thomaswiley666]

Would it help to build a scrubber (like an upside down toothbrush) off to one side of the build plate that could scrub the nozzle after 'X' number of layers? The only issue is how to mount it so that the print head doesn't have to travel up and down in X, Y, and Z to achieve the nozzle cleaning and return back to printing layer in a lot of time? One thought: Since this is a bed-slinger test bed, You could mount the scrubber on the Z traverse bar and a simple gcode routine of sending the nozzle all the to the right, and a little back and forth motion could scrub it and then send it back to the printing area at the new layer height.

[@felixgarber6880]

check the frame at min 08:12. i like the shadow circle around the nozzle maybe it can prevent clogging

[@neyperes5332]

Congrats, my friend! That's a fantástic beginning and contribuition for the marker comunity. Looking foward for the next vídeos about It!

[@vanlife4256]

You are super awesome! You have the right recipe! Patience, Persistence and Perseverance! I’m so proud of you!

[@planecrazy03]

this might be way off topic but where did you get the whiteboard mounting brackets from? anyway to share?

[@whdhdi8738]

I get so excited about your designs and show my friends but none of them know anything about 3D printing so it all just sounds ordinary to them... I can't even begin to explain the level of engineering involved! I love your videos, they keep me so inspired!

[@LCM4x4]

You should use silica to thicken the resin. It's what we use in the industry if we need a resin to be more viscous. The glass bubbles are used in similar lines, but reduce strength etc. The silica powder is also translucent so should cure even better.

[@MA775M17H]

More amazing than the printing is how you can also film it and tell the story. If I was working on a project like this it would definitely be stuff absolutely everywhere. I am always amazed how people make such innovative projects at the same time as making entertaining content. When I build somthing everything is a mess untill its done. (Typically half done)

[@dans-designs]

I was expecting the Whiteboard to fall off the wall as your friend closed the door! I am a little disappointed but still love the video!! 😅

[@properprinting]

This crossed our minds, but that thing was so damn heavy😆

[@woodwaker1]

Looks like a concrete printer. Love the barnacle benchy. Thanks for the time at ERRF

[@zumuvtuber]

Considering the difficulty of this project, I'd say that last benchy is extremely impressive! Great work! 😁

[@Warhawk76]

Just found your channel with this video. Thanks to the YT algorithm for bringing me a real gem! Such a cool idea for resin FDM printing, really out of the box thinking. Love it!!

[@MacGuyver84]

A quick question. What does the resin even cured not stick to. Because your end does not need to be a hot end.

[@mr702s]

A mini paste extruder that cures with UV instead of heat, well done!

[@jmsaltzman]

Impressive! Thanks for sharing this adventure, I didn't think you were going to get it to work at all :D

[@RobertQuattlebaum]

Hey those whiteboard clips look handy. Do you have a link to those models?

[@eraldylli]

What a year this channel has had. Very impressing.

[@chyrt]

A complete rim with fdm resin continous fiber!?!? You are madman! A genius madman that is

[@deucedeuce1572]

14:10 ... They may not look great... but are they durable?

[@BrilliantDesignOnline]

EXCELLENT. Seems a bit smaller nozzle, and possibly an internal check-valve that requires a bit of pressure to allow goo passage, but with no back pressure shuts off.

[@jakobfindlay4136]

Looks like the new issue is resin sticking to the nozzle, maybe some kind of non stick coating on the nozzle would help

[@robb233]

I've seen this idea floating around for some nice. Nice to see a diy approach.

[@themeek351]

Nice! Are you using any heat in your extruder per chance? I was wondering if you could make a thicker resin going into a slightly heated extruder to soften it until it hits the cooling fans and stiffens enough not to run away and then it will cure with the UV lasers!

[@properprinting]

Not yet, but doing that with extreme viscous high performance resins would be so interesting!

[@matikowalczyk00]

Two minutes into the video I hit the like button. Love the storytelling, and the project is very interesting

[@nullexxx]

What if you "wiped" with the UV light between layers? Is it possible to add a bit of retract as well?

[@wolvenar]

Would be interesting to see the physical strength comparison of these prints vs standard pla, and standard resin prints.

[@properprinting]

That'd be interesting for sure!

[@Nocare89]

The production value here is top tier. Keep it up. Certainly a fun concept

[@seanygh1]

This is the start of a game changer, i will be watching your progress, keep the the good work.

[@WhamBamSystems]

wow such amazing research and journey. I love your scientific trial and error approach, as well as your controlled chaos creative design thinking!

[@johnduerr2196]

what if you used a curing light on the bottom of the bed, like the resin printers? you could potentially cure the bottom later more easily

[@properprinting]

That's an interesting thought. I think that the risk of curing inside of the nozzle will be increased though. I still have to find the best possible print surface for this.

[@انا_ابراهيم_البناوي]

The best thing is that the patent for this kind of 3D printing has expired so that means companies can make and sell these printers

[@I.no.ah.guy57]

This is awesome! Can't wait to see it improved! Keep working on it!

[@janebrown7430]

What do you think about the sovol Sv06? Is it good for a beginner

[@properprinting]

I can honestly say that I'm impressed with it and it's clear that they put thought into it. I am off course biased, but I'm going to use this printer for my regular PLA and PETG prints. To answer your second question, yes this is good for a beginner. IMO better than most printers we own if not the best due to its easy assembly and the way the bed is leveled (no leveling knobs)

[@janebrown7430]

got it, I may get one during the sale, thank you for the recommendation

[@Dawin4e]

This material is very similar to the composition for tomatological fillings.

[@ogaugeclockwork4407]

Great work! Vacuum pump the mixed resin to get the entrained air out of it.

[@ericlotze7724]

Can Hacking an Inkjet be the next phase?

[@properprinting]

Well that would be interesting!

[@twentyfoursevenmusic5064]

The best yt channel in the best country

[@jasonwalker6825]

LOL "how can we do resin printing, but worse?" I'm genuinely shocked you got it printing as well as you did

[@JosephCooperNightcore]

I'm really amazed to see how far you are making progress. This custom made resin and the whole process with the pump could technically work on bigger scale, similar to industrial cement printers

[@properprinting]

Thanks! Yes I'm pumped about the possibilities this enables!

[@nunosantiago6720]

No one has ever done it better so... until someone comes up with good looking parts using CDM, those are high quality prints : ) Great video as usual.

[@HonestAuntyElle]

I've had this idea kicking around for ages of a dual nozzle FDM and Resin printer. FDM to draw vasemode, Resin for the infill.

[@TheNextDecade]

As a guy who had to work on Ipro8000's, and now consumer level fdm... Try accura extreme white or watershed clear if you can get a hold of them. Their viscosity and photosensitivity may be the best solution to some of these issues you are having. Thanks for the Stroopwaffels at ERRF too!

[@properprinting]

Thanks for your suggestion! Also, you're welcome!

[@djchumpguy]

Would like to see you revise this ditching the parametric pump I think the problem is the surges a syringe type delivery system should be more consistent

[@theredstormer8078]

Although I can't think of a single practical application for this I've always wondered if it's possible and I'm happy to see there's somebody doing it for once! Still, the only advantage I can think of is the possibility of better bridging and development of future processes but that doesn't make it any less exciting.

[@knutruben1]

Your editing and production is on a nother level my guy! Also thanks for trying this out so I wont have to:)

[@PhysicsDude]

Consider a syringe pump. They are ideal for precise linear dosing. Peristaltic pumps are generally pulsatile and best for precise bulk transfers.

[@properprinting]

Thanks for your suggestion. I designed a non-pulsating pump ;) I like that nothing, except for the tube, comes in contact with the resin and it doesn't have a limited volume.

[@Project-Air]

Crazy stuff! Such a funny video 😂

[@properprinting]

Thanks James!

[@divyajnana]

Incredible job working out the mixture and the viscosities. "Aquarium decoration," I was thinking the same thing, made me laugh.

[@ASmallGreenBean]

That's so cool! I love your innovative approach and your filming too! 👍 To solve some of the "sticking to the nozzle" problems, maybe it would help to have a little "umbrella" around the opening of the nozzle, so that the resin only cures a few millimeters after the nozzle...?

[@sreenieadara841]

A nozzle made from Delrin or PTFE might get less resin stuck to it, or maybe spraying the brass nozzle with non-stick (like the stuff used on pans) would be enough?

[@properprinting]

I'm going to make a custom nozzle which has a parallel tip to make the angle 90 degrees. I hope that this will be better already. This will not be like a syringe needle though since that is too flexible.

[@reinholdu9909]

_"Vamos a la playa"_ and the usual right soundtrack ... You guys nailed another one! - YES I *enjoyed* this journey with you two: *cured* 😎

[@SamBirchenough]

wow the edit and production is sooo good !!! inspiring

[@Karlemilstorm]

Try adding a shade around the tip of the nozzle. That could help reduce the clogging

[@properprinting]

There already is one, but it's the monkey brain solution I tried in our previous attempt. I have an interesting idea to improve this! ;)

[@davisclevenger6761]

I'm sure you have but have you seen Massivit? Its a gel resin 3d printer for large part printing. I wonder if they would be willing to give you some pointers on resin or design. One thing I noticed from watching their printers is that it looks like it has a UV shield around the nozzle and the UV lights are pointing downwards not right at the nozzle.

[@properprinting]

Yes I did. I got this idea just before I saw Joel's video. The lasers already cast a shadow where the nozzle is and I have an idea how we could improve on that ;)

[@TommyHoughton]

Incredible Cinematography, awesome video!

[@RedRavenRuler]

Love the update and can't wait to see you achieve the end goal!

[@kanaalvanNI]

Massivit uses uv resin in an fdm style printer, they have huge printers and they might have some patent,...

[@username9774]

mabey you can make a solid epoxy first layer

[@lmn5031]

GRAET JOB ! You're too close to bring it to life. Could you mention your friend with his FDM resin printer, I mean, who send you this video

[@KilianGosewisch]

I don't know if this is premature optimization, but i would try using stiffer tube before and after the pump so you can prevent ballooning of the tube.

[@TechnicallyDane]

I used those glass bubbles as filler in fiberglass polyester resin and epoxy.

[@HomoSapiensSomos]

Is the peristaltic pump 3d printed? It looked like a diy one

[@DarthTater5738]

You should add a wipe channel on the bed somewhere. Like a v-slot the same angle as the nozzle then and g-code every layer or so to go wipe the nozzle. Or even just and upside down brush.

[@pavelgorlachuk1460]

Can you make a clean "presentation" version of this video just explaining the idea and showing the results?

[@eddysteevens1639]

Woohoo the 3d print stickers! I’ve been using these for years. But now I’m out of them. And 123-3d doesn’t have them anymore 😢. What’s the alternative?

[@properprinting]

I have no idea, I bought them from 123-3D when I started with printing😆

[@nephy_96]

Al final no fueron a la playa?

[@hipjoeroflmto4764]

Loving every second of ur production

[@simonRTJ]

these UV resin deposit machines currently exist at our facility we have several of them to pop out large forms, indeed we print in continuous mode. nice work.

[@TOjoe1strow]

maybe a little plastic uv shield for around the noxzzle? also the materials surface tension really makes alot of shrinkage ay?

[@impressions3d]

Use AEROSIL 200 for thixing the resin (high viscosity when still, lower viscosity when moving). And Byk Chemie for Wetting and dispersing and anti settling additive.

[@properprinting]

That's interesting, thanks for your suggestion!

[@filthmaster9936]

To me it looks like there is some shadow under the nozzle where it isnt curing instantly, perhaps getting the lasers closer to it will cure faster and prevent it from sticking to the nozzle.

[@properprinting]

You've seen correct! In the previous attempt I showed my monkey brain solution to cast a shadow there. I have an idea for a different, yet quite similar approach ;)

[@RailyardProductions]

@@properprinting I wonder if sending the laser through a fiber optic cable might help?

[@OGRECubes]

is there any chance that these files are available for download?

[@hrdcpy]

I wonder how a constant magnetic stir plate would help maintain a consistent batch solution.

[@Cinemaaereo]

Hi. Once I had this idea and I tried to do it with UV Leds and a syringe for the resin. I used clear resin to continue curing after the nozzle was on another layer and used a "hat" to protect the nozzle from UV light. See you.

[@inifin8]

Instead of using hotend nozzle your could use the pipe itself that thins to 0.8mm

[@DavidRobertsonUK]

How about using a nozzle made from PTFE to avoid bits sticking to it?

[@efnick96]

This guy is on another freaking level. Great ideas and implementation man, keep it up.

[@maxpower700]

I feel like uv lights hardening part needs work. Since it hardens on the nozzle. Shield of sorts? Lenses to focus light beam? Timer it on/off for layers? Having them on the side shining (blowing) across the printbed like the superfast vorons,vzbot, and nitrams printer?

[@properprinting]

You're spot on regarding one of the ideas for improvement I have in mind. I'm going to see if I can make my own lenses to make this work!

[@fartboxinspector]

Maybe use a magnetic stirrer to keep the particles in suspension

[@properprinting]

I think that it needs a stirrer indeed. I hope I can find an additive with the same density as the resin.

[@tronique5736]

I think you could get really good results here with a few adjustments - screw pump gravity fed by a hopper - higher viscosity resin mix - shade the nozzle so that resin stuck to it doesn't cure - more light intensity and slower print speed