Fedora 35 Kinoite | A New Immutable Distribution Featuring KDE

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[@LaurieFloodTeacher]

I am really impressed with the features in this version of Fedora. I have recently hopped over to KDE Neon 5.23 and am very pleased thus far. I will definitely play around with this as well. It sounds like it will be light enough for my 17 inch laptop potato.

[@cur1ousss2047]

hi any reasons from switching kde fedora to kde neon? hows the life cycle

[@LaurieFloodTeacher]

@@cur1ousss2047 I had not tested the Fedora version when I switched. I will say, though, that Dolphin is slow, so I use Synaptic instead.

[@NormanF62]

Its kind of a super stable Fedora so its going to be different from the bleeding edge version Fedora people are used to. Perfect for people who just want a system that doesn’t break and which is reliable - kinda what you expect from an immutable OS. Once everything is installed, it will stay the same forever. Its a desktop version of the upstream Redhat distro that’s more or less what you set up with no expectation of getting changes you don’t want.

[@keyboard_g]

Really nice. Rolling back is what I love about Snapper & Btrfs in OpenSuse.

[@guilherme5094]

Thanks, Plasma is awesome.

[@i.p.knightly149]

As soon as I changed my timezone to Chicago , I got shot.

[@ToranK]

Kinoite and Silverblue are fantastic, only I have problems installing scanner. Do not want to use the Vuescan flatpak.

[@doughbag2951]

Just a heads up: the flatpak version of Steam is notorious for not working properly on a lot of rigs. You're better off installing it through your native package manager or some official channel. It will save you a lot of headaches. Same goes for IDEs.

[@harnapazade]

GNOME is great but I really like KDE apps so I changed it to Kionite from Silverblue and is perfectly working. Also dual booting with Windows 11 no issues.

[@metrotechguru5863]

Really well done mate.

[@StarlordStavanger]

I would definitely use Fedora if they just had a proper rolling release like Arch, openSUSE, Solus, etc. I know there's Rawhide, but that's not exactly what I'm looking for. Ah well, looks like I'll stick happily with Gnome on EndeavourOS

[@jgsource552]

Eh, I prefer fedora how it is. We have enough rolling releases imo. Fedora is I think the only distro out there that strikes a balance between stability and bleeding edge so that is why the distro has an ever growing community. For users that prefer to have best of both worlds. I think for development in particular, it is extremely useful as you cannot afford to have that chance of applications breaking on you, and you also would not want to have out dated software. Endeavor os is my favorite as well, makes getting into arch real easy :)

[@DevynCairns]

It's not bad. I mean I get the latest kernel, everything's pretty up to date, and I have flatpaks and containers for anything that absolutely must be the latest version.

[@df3yt]

@@jgsource552 If that were true they wouldn't use Wayland on KDE. It's a bugfest. hidpi doesn't work properly. Clicks don't always register in the right areas if DPI is forced, windows open on the wrong screen, keyboard presses are missed and thats with the lastest builds. Some apps open up with no "window" area so you have to META + right click.

[@oraclejmt]

@@df3yt Some things they gamble with, yes. But most other things are tested well.

[@NormanF62]

This is more like Leap on OpenSUSE. Kinoite isn’t meant to be a rolling release. There’s mainstream Fedora if you like getting the latest updates and being on current software. Kinoite is designed for stability and those are the users it caters to.

[@uno-tu9xx]

Thanks, Looks good.

[@df3yt]

Cool review. Not sure why they make Wayland the default though. I use ArcoD and with dual 1440p monitors it's a buggy mess. KDE is far from stable with Wayland.

[@akza0729]

To make Plasma on Wayland development easier to try and test.

[@BytebroUK]

Hiya, I did mention this a few weeks ago, but it's likely not at the top of your 'TO-DO' list! Basically, we all know the Calamari or whatever Linux installer gets you to that scary 'partition drives' bit. Then you get the 'Let me sort it out myself' option, usually with a sub-option to encrypt everything. That's great except I want the system loaded to my nvme 128Gb drive, and /home mounted on my 1Tb HDD. It's _really_ not obvious how to do that. Especially if I want consistent 'everything encrypted at the OS level' stuff.

[@DevynCairns]

The installer isn't really designed well for Silverblue/Kinoite and it expects specific things to be set up. The partition manager in anaconda will let you do things that won't work. But there is a guide on the wiki for what partitions to set up if you want to do it manually.

[@jakubpouzar3365]

I want this.

[@zbiromax9228]

Welcome. Cool channel YT you drive. Thanks for your work. I have a question. What Linux distribution will work for someone who does not know Linux and to want to change from Windows. To be steadily, respect privacy, easy to use. Small requirements: Office package, photo edition and graphic designs, video editing, screen screenshots and video screenshots for tutorials. I will ask you what programs on Linux will provide all? What Distro you recommend? Best wishes.

[@MiMayonGo]

The previous fedora 34 wallpaper suits kde

[@CliffR]

OK, so now they have this, they have SilverBlue, and they have Fedora CoreOS. What is the difference with all three?

[@NormanF62]

You have a stable branch Fedora and a rolling branch Fedora. Whatever floats your boat.

[@JahidulIslam]

Fedora core is meant for server use. Silverblue for Gnome users. And this one is for KDE users. Just like Fedora has KDE spin. KDE ones are community project, less tested than the Fedora Workstation, server or Silverblue edition.

[@narenchris711]

Can you please reviewing endeavour os?

[@catriona_drummond]

Freezes when entering desktop at every start right after a fresh install. sad. wanted to like this.

[@replikvltyoutube3727]

Please do a Springdale linux review

[@prezlamen]

Now is easier to see

[@LennWeltmeister]

Plasma *

[@MichaelScalet72]

Interesting concept, but it seems like a lot of work to get it running properly. Having to reboot every 5 minutes also seems very unwieldy. One more step towards the Windowsification of Linux (systemd wasnàt eanough?) Hopefully Arch will stick around long enough. Much easier, in my opinion

[@pockejtepotkaliseukolina]

That's the price for immutable distro. On the other hand, you have the option to switch between patches, updates, etc. If you want to compare it with some system out there it's more like Android or Chrome OS. The standard Fedora Workstation is not going anywhere, both Silverblue and Kinoite are ATM experimental projects of Fedora community.

[@cur1ousss2047]

@@pockejtepotkaliseukolina what does immutable system mean please explain

[@WhatTheFrogDoing]

@@cur1ousss2047 an immutable operating system is one in which the system files are generally unable to be changed. this is similar to how modern cellphones like androids work.

[@cur1ousss2047]

@@WhatTheFrogDoing thanks for explanation

[@behzadesmaeili5903]

I hate those annoying delays when hovering on categories in this new kickoff menu. really miss that old lovely menu

[@replikvltyoutube3727]

Linux needs to use this, oh wait immutable system probably can't run steam& proton

[@JahidulIslam]

With flatpak 1.12 you can.

[@cur1ousss2047]

what does immutable system mean please explain

[@JahidulIslam]

Proton, proton experimental, Proton-ge are also available as flatpak package.

[@cur1ousss2047]

@@JahidulIslam what does immutable system mean please explain

[@cur1ousss2047]

@@JahidulIslam also fedora kde vs fedora kinoite whats the difference