Feminism in Star Wars: Can We Stop Please?

[@justhangin2389]

Privileged actresses who don't work regular day jobs complaining about how oppressed they are is the definition of modern day feminism.

[@BroadMeadow-d9s]

If a conservative owns a pool, he's thankful for it and enjoys it. If a liberal owns a pool, he's upset that his neighbor's pool is bigger, so he's unable to enjoy his own.

[@AodhanBeag]

Is Daisy a woman of privilege and narcissistic self entitlement? I really hope not I like Daisy Ridley so I’m hoping this is just a pop at the modern token female hero with zero creative writing or character development

[@h4rdi7g3]

There's nothing more ironic about modern entertainment than the fact the supposedly misogynistic men of old Hollywood make infinitely better female characters than feminist women.

[@done9137]

Women don't like each other. So it's hard for them to make someone they won't be jealous of.😂😂

[@manoz6194]

@@done9137 This is why smart men came up with religions which kept women from having these sorts of positions

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

​@@manoz6194based.

[@reimagineuniverse]

cause no one puts women down more than each other 🤣Acolyte was 180mil therapy session for KK and Harvey Weinsteins personal assistant

[@zurc_bot]

thats because they are trying to write a male-centric character for a female but don't understand men. hence becoming 1 dimensional.

[@jeremyevans8374]

Kathleen Kennedy and all who sail with her are consumed with spite. That's the dominant emotion behind all of the projects. Hatred of men. Hatred of the original fanbase. A desire to censure the male imagination. These are very sick people. The fact that it gets worse over time makes me think they are doing it on purpose. It's like they receive the criticism of the male fans as confirmation that they are doing it right and then they lean even harder into those very things they are criticized for. They have enough money to hire the best writers, the best actors, and best directors but they don't want to. They are trying to destroy it, not elevate it.

[@calebdrew5684]

It makes me wonder where the money is going, like is this just an excuse to pay themselves? Did it all go to craft services or something 😆

[@censortube3778]

Star Wars died for me the moment Rey was showing up Han Solo in his own ship.

[@suzygirl1843]

To be fair, Harrison Ford didn't wan tot come back so they had to show that she was the new heir to the Millenium Falcon

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@suzygirl1843 No, they didn't. He could have simply "given her the keys". There were other ways to accomplish the result, without putting her on a pedestal while digging a trench under Han.

[@scifiguy26]

I just thought about this because I'm trying to forget about all Disney Star Wars speaking of Rey they gave her the Falcon, Luke's lightsaber even his X-wing 🤔

[@panorama4526]

Bypassing the compressor was really smart…

[@seoKillerElite]

@@panorama4526 HAHAHA. Well done.

[@jonnjones8263]

They're never gonna stop. Only thing you can do is stop watching.

[@ixirion]

ofc this blsht will pass in time. ofc we can do more. support projects that are good. voice our opinion etc.

[@GenJuhru]

Not with "Hate watching" becoming a thing(like easy content), FOMO is strong maybe stronger than the force.

[@Rob-z1e3j]

You are right nothing will change until they can’t hide the declining numbers anymore. If they have no fanbase left they will be forced to change so #boycott Star Wars

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

They will stop... but only when we quit watching. Because then, they will no longer be able to hide behind "excuses" (of which they have MANY)... and then they will be replaced.

[@MannysVisionStudio]

Oh eventually it will change. But it will take time. Nothing lasts forever.

[@ajdc88]

it's sociopathic. sociopaths take good reasons, viable/worthwhile causes... and use them like a club for their own ends.... and once those causes are ruined, they move on to the next one.

[@maxmagnus3793]

Star Wars is a zombie franchise now I was thinking of re-watching Firefly to remember those good old days. When you could have a diverse cast of amazing characters without the woke nonsense ruining everything

[@RachelNichols-writer]

"There is no good or evil. Just power." The entire philosophy in 8 words.

[@streamsofarrogance4167]

What's ironic is that's exactly something a Sith would say! It's the Sith are running Lucas film now lol.

[@johnmichael2692]

That’s literally what Star Wars was about, good stopping evil from ruling the galaxy

[@JohnGalt916]

i miss when being a nerd was earned and looked down upon. i miss the days where we could gatekeep these weirdos and if you met a girl into a fandom... you knew she was real and not wearing a shirt cos she thought it was cute.

[@anonymous3637]

This all happened cause simps are easily played

[@claudius3359]

​@@anonymous3637As a fangirl,yeah.Simps are a big problem and it's hard to see them as real fans.

[@CanadianBlaze137]

It's weird. When we say we gatekeep out loud we look bad. But the people we then let in to be more inclusive, just kicked us out and locked the door.

[@orboakin8074]

Agreed. This new woke third wave feminism really ruins things by focusing only on divisive toxic identity politics and it negatively affects women who have no alignment with it. I am currently reading the Han Solo trilogy from the EU and it's written by a woman named Crispin and it's amazing. Thank goodness it came out when it did in the 90s because back then, none of this toxic feminism was prominent

[@suzygirl1843]

Isn't Alt Right white supremacy identity politics?

[@TacoSallust]

It is interesting to watch a teenage male power fantasy that was tempered by good-vs-evil be turned into an adult female power fantasy where everything must be gray and morally corrupted.

[@iturnedintoamartian-cm6nd]

💯

[@albatross4920]

For a second I thought your comment really "gay" instead of grey and morally corrupt"

[@claudius3359]

​@@albatross4920and that wouldn't be wrong either

[@tvesrb]

I don't think of the OT as a power fantasy. More like a coming of age adventure. Luke has his moments, but he's not explicitly meant to be a badass or anything. I think something like He-Man fits the bill a lot better.

[@TacoSallust]

@@tvesrb Excellent and correct analysis!

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Can WE stop? Yes. Can THEY stop? NOPERS. {And NO SHADE intended towards _NerdWord_ for the way she stated that.}

[@Martinmd12-zt7vu]

Only the best storytellers can make a story universal for all mankind. Just look at Godzilla Minus One. It has a character that is so relatable for many people, even though his environment and situation are not something most people have experienced. In contrast, Disney’s Star Wars has characters that lack universal relatability and nuance.

[@ZonaiHero-ul5nm]

Honestly Godzilla Minus One deserves more love.

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

SKIP FEMINIST STAR 🌟 WARS.

[@FINNSTIGAT0R]

Could it be, that on top of their annoying activism, modern writers just don't have a clue about humans, and how human psyche works (motivations, fears, desires, convictions, courage etc.)?

[@GenJuhru]

Amateurs, bunch of amateurs given an established franchise to practice their craft.. and sell their politics. Yeh, money laundering, these Disney shows/films doesn't look like how they're claimed to be costing, so where's the money?

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@BrandonScott-mi5pz Better yet, EXPOSE it for what it is... a *very* bad plan. The effinists in media are doing exactly what Goebels did... just aimed in a slightly different (but also overlapping) "direction"... just as Gina tried to point out... which notably got her fired.

[@AlbertusMagnus_44]

It is no surprise that movie makers today want to eliminate heroism, sacrifice, morality, and overcoming obstacles in their trash productions. This is the “bold, brave, stunning new direction” Hollywood is pursuing, based on collective efforts, collective heroism. Women collectively are heroic and men collectively are schmucks. This is their world view. This is the direction they want for all humanity. And they make movies and tv shows that reflect that view, wishing the next generation to adopt these precepts. That’s why money no longer matters. There is always more funding. Their POLITICS are paramount and their works serve their politics, overriding any fiduciary considerations. As long as crooked creditors demand and fund this garbage, it will continue, no matter how much is lost, no matter how many lives they damage.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

When I was a kid, society told itself stories... stories with morals (lessons)... often called fables. Stories like The Grasshopper and the Ants. One might reasonably say its moral was "do your chores". Those stories, and their lessons, became part of us... a part of who we were/are. Today, the stories Hollywood tells us are all about power... oppression... h8red. One might also call them "Women's Studies 101 for the masses". (What effect is this going to have on society in 10-20 years? Nothing good... and a great deal which is going to be b4d.) More than that, they are deliberately injecting their m!s4ndry into things typically intended FOR men and boys. In a way, they are crawling into your "basements", through your internet connection, to f0rc3 f33d "The Message" to you, taking away your retreat from them. What is it, that people have long said, about cornered r4ts, poking the bear, and sleeping lions? I humbly submit that they are not only poking the bear, but are also backing it into a corner. This is extremely relevant to the "message" (on that social media platform) that got Gina C. fired... and she was absolutely right. Quit poking the bear... let it have its "bread and circuses"... like its Star Wars shows/movies, Marvel, video games, etc... and hope like heck that it goes back to sleep peacefully.

[@alienatedslayer]

Men aren't allowed to be knights anymore.... This is why I've been watching more Anime. Just started Ranking of Kings and I love the Queen Step Mother on that show. She is a fireball of passion and love. Leave it to the Japanese to know how to write compelling characters and understand there are a million ways to show strong females without bringing down others.

[@CMONCMON007]

Pretty much every country outside of the USA is doing much better work in storytelling

[@TheKyPerson]

So right. My 15 year old grand daughter doesn't like characters like Rey or Captain Marvel because she says they don't have to learn anything. They don't grow.

[@kaygee2121]

So you've made her a mindless sheep that can't make up her own mind. Kudos..

[@katiePetsy]

Does she hate Superman films as well? He doesn't really learn anything or grow. Just a powerful alien saving the world

[@Karras353]

​@@katiePetsy Do you really not see the issue with arguing "this character is badly written and popular so why don't you like my badly written character?"? Let's play that game for a second and say that you convinced me. Now I think two characters suck. In all honesty though, the Superman archetype is one of the most difficult to make compelling in the long term. It requires significant escalation in opponent power levels and/or major contrivances to give them a real challenge. But do you know what Superman does have? He has meaningful relationships with others that help to define him and make him relatable. Including a rather important one with a member of the opposite sex. Something that many of these female characters cannot have because any reliance on a man would be seen as a weakness. Besides, Mary Sue characters can still be fun to explore sometimes. It just gets old fast if every character becomes a Mary Sue. And whilst more interesting female characters do exist, not many of them are coming from Disney owned studios. They seem a bit too focused on churning out endless streams of superlatively skilled, often STEM focused female leaders who's only real weakness (if any) is a lack of self confidence.

[@Karras353]

@katiePetsy Do you really not see the issue with arguing "this character is badly written and popular so why don't you like my badly written character?"? Let's play that game for a second and say that you convinced me. Now I think two characters suck. In all honesty though, the Superman archetype is one of the most difficult to make compelling in the long term. It requires significant escalation in opponent power levels and/or major contrivances to give them a real challenge. But do you know what Superman does have? He has meaningful relationships with others that help to define him and make him relatable. Including a rather important one with a member of the opposite sex. Something that many of these female characters cannot have because any reliance on a man would be seen as a weakness. Besides, Mary Sue characters can still be fun to explore sometimes. It just gets old fast if every character becomes a Mary Sue. And whilst more interesting female characters do exist, not many of them are coming from Disney owned studios. They seem a bit too focused on churning out endless streams of superlatively skilled, often STEM focused female leaders who's only real weakness is a lack of self confidence.

[@Uncle_Neil]

I so look forward to your videos! You are doing an awesome job of treating these subjects clearly and intelligently.

[@chasehedges6775]

Same here

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

TRUE.

[@halohalo86]

These female characters are no role models for young girls, as they don't show how girls can be heroic, moral, brave, smart, resilient, humble, hardworking and compassionate. As a woman, I myself can't often find any female 'role models' that embody these kinds of virtues, and feel surrounded by only toxic women in the media.

[@suzygirl1843]

Um, Anakin is no hero either

[@tutuadefolalu3661]

Andor is the only Disney Star Wars show with great female characters, and ironically all of its writers were men.

[@koketsoletlapeYT]

Man was Andor amazing. Watched in one go. Andor was so real and troubled and motivated.

[@occasional-dabbler]

The portrayal of Imperial security in Andor was pure gold, a demonstration of how evil bureaucracies (is that an redundant phrase?) function.

[@koketsoletlapeYT]

@@occasional-dabbler Man. the round table sessions they made it feel like he and his ilk are a real threat that needs to be stopped pronto. And man Luthen, the guy who eventually recruits him into the resistance. Just beautiful writing man.

[@kaygee2121]

Andor is gold, period. That being said, most of Disney Star Wars has been written by men.

[@koketsoletlapeYT]

@@seoKillerElite We need bold stories. Society is back tracking, like a regression of sorts.

[@timleelim9930]

Star Wars fans: Star Wars was ruined by feminism? Indiana Jones fans: Hold our beers ...

[@jonnjones8263]

It's pushed me to the point that I actively avoid any and all stories with female leads. I dont want to read about them and watch tem anymore. It's a shame because logically I know they "can" be good. But I just don't care anymore. When it comes to my own stories I'm not gonna write female characters ever again. There will be no trace of anything that could remotely be considered f*minist in my works. I'm just done with this crap.

[@luiznogueira1579]

Same here

[@MannysVisionStudio]

I hear ya John. I always liked the Sarah Connors or Ripley’s of the film world. A person put into incredibly impossible odds, knowing full well they may die and they end up doing something extraordinary but not without a lot of hardship and loss. Those women characters were always something to be proud of, nowadays it’s just not the same. I feel you man.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

Yep... the "Law of Unintended Consequences". I've been done with LucasFilm since I heard what happened in TLJ... I've been done with Marvel since the beginning of Phase 4... Now, I'm done with everything that has Dismal's name on it... which even includes the upcoming D'Pool 3. FoxTV cancelled my favorite shows on their channel... which included "Dark Angel"... and I quit watching Fox. SyFy cancelled my favorite shows... which included "Farscape"... so I quit watching SyFy, too. Modern Dismal? EASY decision. I've got thousands of good books... and hundreds of good movies... and other hobbies that I can spend my free time on. I *want* them to go back to making good stuff... but I don't *need* them... for anything.

[@parapendejadas4913]

Big thanks to Kathleen and Disney for spending 180 million USD to create this amazing comedy show! Haven't laughed so hard since The Marvels and Obi One Kenobi

[@marchitn]

Always love your content. The Leadership vs Heroism commentary was wonderful. Cheers dear lady :)

[@djn6962]

Great video! This is literally the problem killing Star Wars (and most entertainment these days). They are making female characters boring and soulless in an awful attempt to make them the “best”, and tearing down all the males characters so they don’t dare steal any spotlight or achievement, which makes the male characters insufferable too. If all the characters are terrible, how can the story be any good? Who is this stuff for?

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

It's "for" the people who are making it... collecting paychecks on it. It comes from spite, envy, and massive chips on shoulders.

[@occasional-dabbler]

All their friends love it! They make these films for each other, filling their insulare social bubbles with facades of mutual admiration.

[@eternalhalloween1]

There was a time you couldn't keep me away from STAR WARS. Now like so many others, when I hear about a new SW project, I react the same as when I hear something about my X girlfriend: "I just don't care anymore." 🤔

[@iturnedintoamartian-cm6nd]

We all instinctively *knew* feminism was one of the things F*ing up Star Wars and it's explained here brilliantly. bravo 👏🏻

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

Not just Star Wars... This extends to a *lot* of boy/man franchises that have been invaded by, and are now controlled by, the same form of cancer. Fifty years ago, they were somewhat content to just call us "us3l3ss". That's no longer enough to satisfy them.

[@vegasdutch]

I raised two successful daughters....by myself, mom wasn't around.....Does that make me a feminist? - Captain Ray, Aeromexico

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

Wanna make feministic movies. Fine. Do. But create your new own stories. Dont ruin established frenchises and stories.

[@done9137]

Nobody wants to see those, that's why they jam it into fun stuff

[@currentlyeatingpies1274]

Nobody wants to see them done badly. There's a movie called Mrs. Caldicot's Cabbage War about a woman who's tricked into living in a horrible care home. She sticks up for herself and others, treats people who deserve it with respect, doesn't consider herself better than other people, and fights for the rights of herself and the other care home residents. It's not some huge movie, but it's an amazing feminist movie with an amazing feminist character.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

That's one thing that they want to do... BUT... they REALLY want the money from the male audience. A lot of women ALSO do NOT want to see their agenda-laden stuff. That makes these people really bitter... and spiteful. They also know that most of this stuff is doing badly... even very badly... which makes them even more bitter... and makes that "chip" bigger, too. And THAT is a big part of the reason that they just can't resist subverting these existing franchises. Now, it's all about their envy, spite, and anger... and they have the power... and so, they have become the Sith.

[@katiePetsy]

​@@done9137Barbie did well

[@nickmccabe4769]

Rey could have been an interesting character. Same with Finn. But someone panicked about halfway through the Force Awakens. It's as if the writers wanted to write a good Star Wars film, but then remembered at the last minute that it was meant to be a vehicle for activism.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

More likely, it was KK realizing that Finn might detract from her message... her goal. She's nothing, if not consistent. As the saying goes, "three times is a pattern"... and we are FAR past a mere 3 times.

[@ButcherSevenActual]

All of this feminist SW nonsense has been the big budget reflection of Kathleen Kennedy staring at herself in a mirror, repeating “I’m not just a coffee girl, I’m powerful!”

[@mk_wizard]

You know what's really sad? Star Wars was already naturally progressive including in terms of being feminist. It's not for nothing that Princess Leia is an icon and I have to say this as a fan of the series; it's not about how many female characters there are. It's about the quality of those characters. I mean, is every male character in a show memorable?

[@sofaking1627]

Corporatism, feminism, nepotism. These were the ingredients chosen to create the prefect destruction of Starwars... Powerpuff Girls was a good show...

[@CanadianBeachcomber]

That was a good explanation of what has been going on; “ the wanting of power without earning it.” My Disney Plus subscription runs out this coming week.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

I never had one... and won't... until there's a change from the top down.

[@SaviorCross]

I didn't realize that Obi-wan turned down helping a Jedi in need...disgraceful...

[@lordsinister707]

They want to get rid of the idea of morality because a lot of the messages that they're trying to push are perceived to be on the bad side of traditional morality. I mean seriously taking the acolyte for example. After episode 7, almost everyone agrees that the Jedi didn't do anything wrong to those witches. They're trying to make the Jedi look evil but the writers have failed in this endeavor miserably. In regards to the power fantasy, to be fair there are plenty of movies where male characters have been perceived as Mary Sue characters. However the difference is, everybody do that these characters were only for entertainment purposes. It's like the showrunners of the Star Wars IP are trying to make their characters portray what women should be and it's just not palatable. Not to say that women can't be strong or cannot be leaders or whatnot but those characters still need to struggle just as much as their male counterparts

[@kentlindal5422]

If you aren't hired based on talent, you are, by definition, not the best person for the job.

[@kieragard]

But they have estrogen! Estrogen gives you incredible power!

[@sirloin8745]

I’m a man, but also a brown belt in Ju-Jitsu. I earned that. This really resonated with me. There is a female Black Belt at the Club, but she earned it like the rest of us. I don’t know what my point is. I thought your Review was brilliant, though!

[@michaelbuick6995]

It's quite concerning because kids do watch this stuff, and what is the message? Bravery, stoicism, self sacrifice, standing up for what's right? No the message is that *anything* a woman chooses to do is by definition "empowering", because she is a woman choosing to do it. But this isn't what a hero does this is what a sociopath does. What the hell kind of moral lesson is this?

[@roachofdoom1234]

Star Wars WAS for everyone. But now it’s being forced to be JUST for women and I don’t understand why.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

It isn't even for many women... since most women couldn't care less about Sci-Fi... or even large parts of Fantasy, unless it's like Twilight.

[@FactsNReason]

This analysis is SPOT ON … geez BRAVO

[@PeterLewisArt]

Great analysis, couldn't agree more. There was plenty of room for positive change when the 'me too' era started. Alas, feminism replaced toxic masculinity with toxic femininity.

[@suzygirl1843]

DEI is for white people. You will be a minority soon. The corporations were pushing it so hard so that when black and brown people become the majority they still HAVE to cast whites in leading roles even though they're a minority. Truly think about it - population decline and immigration. Tyler Perry Studios catering for blacks only as they grow in population from 13%

[@ottobonirobert]

Andor seems to be the lone exception to this rule, at least within LucasFilm. I too wanted to love the Obi Wan series, in the end the only good point was the final fight, the rest ...unbelievable. The marriage between money and creativity in Hollywood is not going well... divergent interests or so I am told.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

It isn't the "marriage between money and creativity". NerdWord was exactly right... it's the DEI... specifically, the part she mentioned. Examples, KK. Headland. Salke over at Prime... and their "useful _____" like Iger, R. Johnson, Feighe, Bezos, etc.

[@oxhine]

Please do a critique of the new "Time Bandits" coming out on AppleTV! Terry Gilliam walked off the set of the remake of his classic in utter disgust! Lol. Taika Waititi is despoiling yet another '80s pop-cultural touchstone after destroying Hulk, Thor, Valkyrie and Zeus at Marvel! The original had Sean Connery as Agamemon, John Cleese as Robin Hood, Ian Holm as Napoleon and David Warner as the Devil. The climax was a gathering of warriors from across time to battle ultimate evil! The little people Bandits are no more! They weren't PC! Lisa Kudrow of "Friends" is the back-flipping girl-boss of the ethnically diverse pilferers. Gone is the eerie, dreamlike atmosphere replaced by endless snark and Waititi's brand of zany, everything-is-ridiculous hilarity! The man is a wolf in nerd clothing who has nothing but contempt for nerd culture and everything they hold dear! Please deconstruct the trailer for us!

[@emberfist8347]

He actually did more for Hulk than any other director at Marvel has done as for Thor that is primarily because of Chris Hemsworth and not Taiki. I can’t argue about the others.

[@lukefrohling]

“Strap in and buy old media”- so damn true

[@SonOfTheOne111]

SW was taken over by writers who actually HATE everything that was good about SW- the main characters. Same thing happened with rings of power!

[@smuj77]

At least Rey was relatively attractive. They make Amandla look like she’s wearing a dirty carpet and she’s a pretty young lady. Headland needs to be sent on a one way Mars mission.

[@smuj77]

Also being a lefty person myself Headland is the very worst kind of liberal. Completely empty thoughts. Her terrible casting and writing will likely damage these actors careers. As very dumb as the sequels are the Acolyte absolutely shatters it in all areas.

[@kieragard]

Don't do this to Mars. Mars doesn't deserve that, lol.

[@suzygirl1843]

@@smuj77 DEI is actually for white people. The corporations calculated that the future is gonna have whites become the minority so since whites NEVER show weakness, they are linking Diversity with gender and race. I know this because I live in South Africa (same as Amandla Stenberg) where whites cannot find jobs in entertainment because the demand is for African languages and African people. Hence why Charlize Theron and other white celebrities move to USA or Canada or UK to find jobs. Think about it, since when did whites do ANYTHIGN for black and brown people if it wasn't to exploit them? So I am for removing DEI for the sake of Africans creating and owning their own Networks

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

If I remember correctly, Rey was also a decent person, and likable... if also a Mary Sue. Of course, I never watched TLJ or RotS, so all I have to go on is The Farce Awakens.

[@suzygirl1843]

@@Nyet-Zdyes Anakin Skywalker isn't a likeable person either, so what's your point? Protagonists don't have to be likeable (Breaking Bad, The Sopranos etc). What you mean is you cannot relate to a black women leading character. And NEWSFLASH that's the point. Disney Star Wars doesn't want to cater to white nerds like you, they're weeding you out because your population is in decline. Disney is a company that modeled after making CHILDREN's content. Why are there 50 years old nerds still watching? They are purposefully alienating YOU, Dum Dum

[@raymathews1474]

I've been "out' of star wars from the moment untrained Rey pulled a spacecraft out of the sky with the force. Disney Star wars is a poor knock off with artificial estrogen icing.

[@MannysVisionStudio]

You hit the nail on the head. You’re right. I can’t think of a better way of talking about this. You’ve been right to the point and I’m with you all the way.

[@gordonneverdies]

At 3:05 Rey is holding a pistol right handed and aiming with her left eye 😂

[@aryandraarya1250]

Notice how all this modern activism is mostly coming from "Entertainemnt industry" actors entertainers and "influencers" are now the emissary of humanity. Its the fall of intelligence that our idols of inspiration and influence have shifted from scholars and experts to entertainers. Or maybe entairtainers have realized how gullible the general public is and are cashing on it.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

The "idols of inspiration" for most people have never been scholars and experts.

[@skeleton819]

so whats disney gonna say now that women are criticizing their feminism?

[@Fancy_Lebowski]

The first warning sign of what was to come to me at least was Doctor Who 2015's Hell Bent a little before TLJ, and after seeing TLJ I was like "Oh God, it's Hell Bent all over again".

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Any traits in particular of that one that can link to TLJ?

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

If you ever get bored and want to revisit this essay, it would be worthy to do it with the conclusion here as the lead off in the new version. Instead of summing up with how power has been shown historically to corrupt and good stories warned of this corruption, use that as your opener and catalyst. It's a great summary, but how much more effective (powerful??????) would it be to open with exactly what you closed with - The Lord of the Rings screaming how bad embracing power for the sake of power is. Just a thought.

[@criticalmasterpiece6706]

Hollywood used to be the place where introspection was analyzed and debated from one film to the next. Now they can’t even open their eyes for the fear of seeing what the world is like outside their own viewpoint. I guess this really is it. For the name of the final episode of Star Trek put it best; “All good things…”. StarWars did that with Return of the Jedi. After that movie, it was no more.

[@MII-CHAN1996]

It's frustrating when influential corporations like Disney prioritize appearances over competence in their diversity and inclusion efforts. Representation should reflect both diversity and skill. When companies fail to do so, it undermines the efforts of those who have worked hard to excel despite facing obstacles related to their identity. Companies should foster environments where meritocracy is upheld and individuals are recognized based on their talents and achievements, not just their demographic characteristics.

[@suzygirl1843]

DEI is actually for white people. The corporations calculated that the future is gonna have whites become the minority so since whites NEVER show weakness, they are linking Diversity with gender and race. I know this because I live in South Africa where whites cannot find jobs in entertainment because the demand is for African languages and African people. Hence why Charlize Theron and other white celebrities move to USA or Canada or UK to find jobs. Think about it, since when did whites do ANYTHIGN for black and brown people if it wasn't to exploit them? So I am for removing DEI for the sake of Africans creating and owning their own Networks

[@chasehedges6775]

Cindel(Aubree Miller) Charal(Sian Philips ) from Ewoks The Battle For Endor(1985) are more likable/ cool female Star Wars characters. Change my mind

[@chasehedges6775]

Fair enough. I like the second film, never saw the first one.

[@martindenham2207]

I really don't think this is even about storytelling for the benefit of the audience anymore. It seems more about the filmmaking and how that allows those with an axe to grind to 'have a go' because of the status & power it affords them, which gives them the platform to grind their axe. Basically, selfish entitled narcissistic types who feel they deserve the job because they're superior. It's not about the quality of the work & the positive impact that has on others, it's just about them being the ones to do the work because that's fair (for them). It appeases their ego. It's the product of emotional immaturity.

[@humanwarnings1]

From what I know, there are many different branches of feminism, just like there are different types of communism, capitalism, etc. It's like when someone says "Do you believe in God?" you can't just answer yes or no because God is a complex subject. Do you mean the Christian God? Do you mean a higher power? I dated a girl who hated men and thought women were gods. She gave feminism a bad name. As a man, I have no problem with women even having power over men. But this girl I dated made all the good feminists look horrible, the same way Brie Larsen turns DEI and feminism and trans rights into a joke, all for her ego. Brie's words were not for women or DEI, but for her own ego. There is an agenda behind the agenda. And on the right, MAGA nuts make the right look evil, when the right probably has real grievances like losing their sense of culture and community.

[@FromChaosToOrder-iz9wb]

People old enough to remember know that feminism appeared in the first film as even women were not impressed with Leia's abrasive attitude towards Luke and Han. Meanwhile obi wan and Yoda were manipulators. Bending truth to win a battle only Skywalker could fight. However the biggest problem SW faces is that greed didn't allow the franchise to end in 83 as ot should have

[@GuiltlessGear]

bo katan was a cool character. In Rebels.

[@mattimusprimal637]

The initial stript for Obi-Wan Kenobi had him protect a young Luke Skywalker, but Kathleen Kennedy forced (pin intended) them to rewrite the script to be about young Leia instead.

[@ravens-crypt]

2:55 ray isn’t a just a clone of Palpatine she’s a clones child so he’s like her dad and grandpa in one by a certain point of view .Tho I agree with you on everything else

[@johnmiwa6256]

When I was growing up, Feminism meant "Women's Lib". Now it means "Female Empowerment". The change is important because a woman who is liberated is free to make the most of herself. But a women who has power has to exercise that power over other people. So female characters have to be girl bosses and male characters have to be lame and/or stupid.

[@xxkankala1671]

Nothing is wrong with that

[@johnmiwa6256]

@@xxkankala1671 To those who crave power over other people, I suppose not. But I read 1984 by George Orwell when I was in high school. Having power means being able to force someone else say that two plus two equals five. People take power over other people for the purpose of having power over other people. The end state of such a system is boot endlessly stomping on a human face. That is the meaning of modern-day Female Empowerment.

[@johnmiwa6256]

​@@xxkankala1671 To anyone who craves power over others, I suppose not. As George Orwell wrote in 1984, power is the ability to make someone else say that two plus two equals five. And people take power for the purpose of having power over others. This is why Modern Feminism is ultimately self-defeating, because their product is "Five" when the market will only pay for "Four". In other words, Get Woke, Go Broke.

[@hazyviewpoint7194]

​@xxkankala1671 your profile pic sums up everyone that's reading your comments

[@johnmichael2692]

I like having characters of both genders being equally important and not one being treated overpowered and is better at everything while the other is treated weak and stupid and useless, that doesn’t help in any favors

[@benmcreynolds8581]

These people Lack a basic understanding of the source material. This is who is getting hired for these jobs? It feels as if they give zero F*cks about respecting this widely beloved story that they have been given the opportunity to be in charge of? They don't comprehend how much they don't understand Star Wars. So much so that IT HURTS! (They also don't understand anything about quality storytelling/ character building & world building as a whole) Yet these people act like They deserve these positions? Out of all people, HOW are these who they want to be creating Star Wars content..? It's ridiculous.. I don't understand how things have gotten this bad that NO ONE can step in and Fire all of these inadequate people..? The world needs people to put their ego's aside and just bring in truly passionate and gifted individuals artist's, actors, writers, set designers, sound design, you name it, we need a shift that shows improvement.. Things have been bleak for far too long. If they could bring in selfless, talented and passionate people it could really help get ourselves out of this depressed hole that we've been stuck in. This feeling is a natural response if all we have been seeing is these soulless detached narcissistic individuals are who is in charge. It's awful, it's fake and it's forced. They don't just Not grasp Star Wars. They don't understand the creative process as a whole.. There's genuinely talented people out there who haven't gotten a chance to work on projects such as this and I really think it's time those people get the chance to work on these projects. Random Honest question: When it comes to the Acolyte, What is so SPECIAL about Osha and Mea for them to be the Main focus, the Main characters, etc. She has ZERO personality, 0 depth, 0 intricate aspects to her character.. Yet we are supposed to believe All off this is occurring around the twins as the main focus...? She has the personality of a cardboard box. There's so many things that are very wrong with this sad attempt at telling a star wars story.. There's so many issues with this story tho.. None of what they have made actually portraits accurate star wars, accurate jedi, etc. etc. How did this cost $180 million..? It seriously does not make any sense This show comes off so cheap & tacky.. It's not just the terrible writing & terrible acting. It's horrible set design, horrible world building, horrible camera work. It all makes this show feel so small. Like it's filmed in a single green screen room.. Grasping at awful CGI techniques to try and force any bit of a false reality into this mess of a show. It's so far from Legitimate Star wars movies that it feels as if this whole thing is a big parody.. A very expensive parody..

[@beefgoat80]

I was a manager at Whole Foods for years. I've seen all different kinds of people. 99 times out of 100, guess what you often get from individuals who believe they're perfect and have no need to learn, grow, or improve in any way? Mediocrity and incompetence. The mental gymnastics those sorts will do to deflect and blame or culpability when shit goes wrong is amazing. Characters like Rey are nothing but vain wishful thinking. Growth is a part of life. _No one_ is born perfect.

[@Jack-ub7bp]

I really love the way you exposés things, i'm Italian and i understand every world, if please may try to make a longer essays ? i know is a huge task, but i believe your arguments may be expanded making your video even more interesting Thank you anyway

[@charlesajones77]

People didn't have a problem with Rei because she was female. People had a problem with the fact that she was better than every male at everything, whether it made any sense or not.

[@occasional-dabbler]

This was the main thing that finally killed Captain Marvel for me when I saw it; she entered into her full potential just because she decided to, not because she trained, or worked, or changed at all - the flashbacks of childhood showed she always had the will to stand back up, so that wasn't even a real story beat. I made it through Ahsoka in hope that there would be something, anything good in it. Nope. I'm only touching Acolyte via the youtube reviews. I'm done, just watching the train wreck now.

[@orboakin8074]

This is why I, and many others, are now watching anime and reading manga more. They do strong female characters much better. Appare Ranman is an anime I am currently watching and it's great. It's basically Wacky Races meets Blood meridian. One character, a girl named Xialin, aspires to be a female racer but faces sexism and is inexperienced with fixing cars, though she can drive well. In a contest against some jerk, she loses due to him cheating and then her boss who owns a race team condemns the cheater and acknowledges her skill and offers to help her fix up her car and she gratefully accepts. That feminism done right! Real empowering and no toxicity.

[@suzygirl1843]

DEI is actually for white people. The corporations calculated that the future is gonna have whites become the minority so since whites NEVER show weakness, they are linking Diversity with gender and race. I know this because I live in South Africa where whites cannot find jobs in entertainment because the demand is for African languages and African people. Hence why Charlize Theron and other white celebrities move to USA or Canada or UK to find jobs. Think about it, since when did whites do ANYTHIGN for black and brown people if it wasn't to exploit them? So I am for removing DEI for the sake of Africans creating and owning their own Networks

[@victorcates9330]

I used to think the problem was men writing overpowered women either as a fantasy or to win favor. Where maybe you could think about it as wanting Ripley or Sarah Connor, but not wanting the work to get to the memorable finished product. To be that explained Joss Whedon and the intent in womening up Terminator. But I think the current thing is different. There are more women involved in the overpowered women, and it does seem to have either a political obsession or deep inferiority complex. That seems to be the core difference between being in the narrative as an equal and needing to redefine the story to undercut men and make women the real movers and shakers. With the Mandalorian, I defended Bo Katan on a basis of I shouldn't have a problem with a model of sharing power as equals and cooperating. Bo and Mando and Grogu almost looked like an approximation of a family. It at least seemed comparatively genial in intent. That was my defense of Wonderwoman. It had a comparatively female gaze (ok), but it allowed the broken male characters to be flawed and independently heroic. I'd additionally note that male fantasies aren't necessarily the top dog. A lot of dudes in the comic space liked Wolverine or daredevil. My understanding is that Rocky wasn't top dog in the first rocky film. If narratives were part of male empowerment, it's worth noting that many of these were about striving - not automatically being all-powerful. And I'm sure empowered male characters had moral/emotional lessons to learn.

[@RachelNichols-writer]

Not everything has to be a power fantasy. LOTR was about a little guy under four feet high with hairy feet throwing away the ultimate power to save the places and people he loved.

[@raminagrobis6112]

Male characters' fatal flaw is possessing one extra chromosome (the Y of course). Once a character is free of a Y chromosome, perfection is instantaneous and complete.

[@GTXDash]

I was actually optimistic after watching Force Awakens. I just assumed that Rey received training from Luke when she was a child and that Luke or someone put a mind block on her to hide her identity. And when Luke finally sees her and his eyes tear up, I speculated either she's his daughter or a daughter to a close friend who was also force sensitive. But after TLJ, I was really confused. I gave the film the benfit of the doubt because I was more like "Do I just not understand this movie?" But as the years went by, I now know that Disney is just incompetent. By writing bad female characters, the so called "femenists" at Disney ironically have created really bad female characters that don't hold a light to the previous male heroes of the franchise. If male characters with no growth are considered poorly written characters, then the same applies to why female characters with no growth are also considered to be poorly written characters.

[@o.g.bachelor7286]

1000% facts - great video

[@Elerad]

A nice take as always. Sad times.

[@kaludgo5811]

I totally agree with you. I would add that those feminists writers are afraid to portray female vulnerability. They perceive it as weak. They think that being powerful is being a masculine woman with no flaws that people can attack. The problem is that you create a boring character when you do so. There is no journey, we are already at the destination from the beginning so why should we invest in this character. Ripley is a badass character but she is still flawed, feminine and human. She can be brave and make mistakes but we still love her and follow her journey

[@mojorocketman]

I grew up respecting women and supporting their rights and equality, but in the last decade I've never been attacked more in my life for being a man and being labeled a bigot, misogynist and even a predator for liking women. Voicing my opinions which are about equality and sharing responsibilities seem to fall on def ears because it's so much easier to play the victim narrative than to do actual work to make advancements in civilization. As for Hollywood, we are well into the Karenistic Period with no light at the end of the tunnel, and thanks to the Woketard Generation, we must celebrate mediocrity or face cancellation...

[@kazekamiha]

The only way to save Star Wars now is for it to be sold from Disney to someone capable. If that happens I know what the first movie *should* be. Episode Seven.

[@terrellgarner9887]

It reminds me of when my nieces would want to play with my nephews the boys would be playing fine no issues a little rough but they are having fun, when the girls join now it’s chaos!? The girls want to change the game the boys are playing or play something different 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@inazuma3gou]

it's almost like when men wanted to make a movie Pride and Prejudice.... with Zombies.

[@teamtundra2619]

I don’t see any “feminism” or “wokeness” in modern Star Wars. And who really cares???

[@animesjogoseseriesclassica8282]

To stop with this bs first they would have to got the humbleness to admit that they made a mistake so ... is very unlikely. These people seem to be incapable of that.

[@peterparker9214]

You have earned yourself another male sub. Great content keep spreading the good word

[@nw1750]

You nailed it.

[@jaketheripper7385]

So while I agree with everything that you said, there is one thing I'd like to point out that I think you misunderstand... Bo Katan wasn't necessarily just "exempt" from the Mandalorian laws and creed because she's Bo Katan... She never followed "The Way" to begin with, that is "The Way of The Mandalore" or "The Way of The Watch". "The Watch", or the creed followed by the Mandalorian Din Djarrin (Sp?) is just one of many extremist splinter groups that follow a particular creed unique to their people that isn't followed by all Mandalorians. Bo Katan did follow The Way for a short time during season 3 of 'The Mandalorian', but basically only out of necessity since she had no clan or army to fall back on after losing her forces. During this time however she was still technically the queen regent of Mandalore, however her people were scattered after the planet had been sieged and destroyed by the Empire. Lady Bo Katan was eventually granted special permission by the Armorer (leader of The Watch) to remove her helmet whenever she wanted upon being designated the mediator between The Watch and the rest of the Mandalorians because she was still the leader of their entire people by right. You must understand that this was an exception that had to be made in order for the two groups to properly unite. Otherwise the old rivalries would start again and they would be destroyed by in-fighting. You have to understand the Mandalorian politics and the specific history involved that led to the layest3 developments for Bo Katan in 'The Mandalorian'. She wasn't just randomly granted special accommodations for no reason. There's some very specific lore reasons at play for what happened. At any rate, once again the extremist views and laws followed by "The Watch" are not universally held tenets for all Mandalorians and the whole "never removing one's helmet or showing one's face" rule is specifically unique to them. Bo Katan merely followed this law temporarily as a matter of convenience in order to enable easier cooperation with the warriors of The Watch.

[@wolfen888]

The surge of feminism and gender-related discussions can be traced back to the wage-gap debates and related issues from 2014-2016. The political left leveraged these topics to retain voter support. Subsequently, there was a concerted effort to infiltrate institutions and initiate internal changes. The underlying philosophy suggests that men are often perceived as toxic, capable of earning more, and entering tech fields due to cultural influences such as Star Wars, Dr Who, comics etc.. (you know what I mean). This movement seeks to address perceived gender problems in various aspects of life. Their goal includes redefining gender roles and addressing concepts like "toxic masculinity," aiming to balance the scales by encouraging women into traditionally male-dominated roles and redefining masculinity itself.

[@justinthislife]

I have a 1000 bad things to say about Disney Star Wars.

[@ToeCutter0]

I still find it absolutely astonishing that Star Wars fans who have never met or spoken with one another can reach very similar opinions on what's destroyed Star Wars in just under a decade. I actually said to myself several times while watching this "OMG, I thought I was the only one who felt this way?!" The fan's disappointment in Disney Star Wars has never had anything to do with hate or isms. I've talked to many of them, and every single one of them has the same answer to why DSW isn't fun: The stories are ridiculous. The characters don't fit into their own narrative. I have never met a Star Wars fan who didn't like Daisy Ridley. Each one claims she did the best with what she had. I have failed to find a single Star Wars fan who's motivated by hate or fear. It's a damn shame this how Star Wars ends.

[@jasonjones7461]

Well said, i agree with practically all of this spot on analysis

[@tamerhafez3160]

Somehow, i liked Obi Wan show... i felt it made sense to feel that much doubt after losing Anakin to Darth Vader... he felt everything was lost, including himself

[@emberfist8347]

I disagree he knew there was Luke who offered hope. Not to mention him facing Vader opens so many plot holes and this the show that started the infamous trend of lightsaber stabs to the chest being just a flesh wound.

[@Lord_darkside74]

0:49 until Star Wars and Hollywood in general go chapter 13. What can we do they own it it’s not ours anymore. What can we do?

[@taravati181]

yaas! yaaas!

[@chasehedges6775]

😂😂😂😂

[@notyourfriend1190]

I couldn't finish first episode of acolyte, and I loved Star wars since I was a kid. That means something

[@davidstahl1819]

Absolutely, buy and support physical media!

[@dwilliams380]

Also, in terms of power, for the inquisitor and which it’s expected because they’re drawing on the dark side. The only end goal of the dark side it’s absolute power and control. It’s also the only thing radical feninists (y’all know what I’m saying there) desire so it’s ironic 😂 great video btw

[@chuck_moore]

Totally agree. Thanks.

[@MadelineMysterious]

As woman i can't relate to any of this. It's like some twilight zone world leaking into the real world where everyone I know and meet (offline) hates these shows and movies and laughs at them. Even my dentist hated acolyte.

[@conquerorkang6193]

Just don't support the product until they change.

[@Coffeepanda294]

Someone pointed out that if A New Hope had come out today, Leia would've been called a pandering Mary Sue. Unafraid, aggressive, and resolute, talked back to both Tarkin and even Darth Vader, put Han in his place when needed, had to be physically pulled away from shooting stormtroopers as they fled Cloud City. I find it amusing how strong female characters in Star Wars seem to be regarded as some kind of scary new liberal-communist-woke-IED (insert more terms they barely understand here) agenda. Have they _watched_ the original trilogy?

[@johnmichael2692]

I have always preferred having Star Wars characters of both genders being equally important to the story and not favor one being overpowered and better at everything while the other is made to look weak, stupid and useless and not just for Star Wars but for all franchises in Disney and other franchises outside of Disney, they need to fix that immediately so Star Wars and Disney can be good like before, cause children and families don’t go to Star Wars and Disney for the message they go to them for the fun and entertainment, even women can find it fun and entertaining too if they write the story and characters the right way and all this is what they really need to do

[@JohnMack-f3f]

I stopped watching anything Star Wars after The Force Awakens ended and wrecked the legacy characters. Disney, Star Wars elevates villains into protagonists and replaces heroes with villains. There is nothing about Star Wars worth watching.

[@ejoshcoron]

Incredible assessment!