FERRARI 430 SCUDERIA - Better Than a Stradale or a Speciale?

[@targaflorio3239]

Magnificent episode. A veteran Ferrari technician once told me the Scuderia was in his opinion, the greatest Ferrari ever made. This is even against all the exceptional stuff coming out of Maranello today. Of which, he had worked on most personally. That really struck me.

[@iskillio]

Cool fake story bro.

[@johnforeman634]

I’ve heard many people say that. I’ve never driven one but I’ve got an 08 Spider which will have to be good enough for me. My dream would be a 16M.

[@beansnwheels]

Hi Damian, I really like your new more comprehensive style. Can’t get enough of all the visual (and intake noise) comparisons. It’s really nice to learn in great detail and emotionally where these cars slot in between their sisters. Your extensive experience between these cars is really showing. Cheers and thanks for sharing all this with us!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much

[@360trev]

I've re-calibrated a few Scuderia's now, the factory did some very good detailed work on that software, quite a bit different than the 430 including entirely new ABS software and Eldor Ion Sensing module as carried over into the 458. There are big improvements that can be made to drivability and torque too which make the car even more extraordinary to drive without compromising reliability. Great engine!

[@michaelblurry6559]

You do a lot of goof stuff mate, but never respond to any DMS sent your way.

[@marklewis2736]

Better than Speciale? No. More fun and exciting to drive? Yes. Last of the analog, old school Ferrari’s. This car represents the “pure” Ferrari experience.

[@user-sk2pq2uq7t]

A guy who owned a Ferrari specialist garage once told me the Scuderia 16m was in his top three Ferraris ever, and he had seen them all. With that in mind, I manage to find one and would never get rid of it now …. It’s the best car I have ever driven. It is the perfect combination of raw and analogue (analogue dials, a handbrake) but modern enough tech, and with a brilliant n/a engine which sounds better than anything else I have heard, this car has the whole package. Add pinpoint handling, and superb steering and this I just about the most fun you can have with your pants on …. Or maybe even just the most fun regardless 😂….finally …. That F1 single clutch box …. It is brilliant …. It feels as quick as a 458 dual clutch, and gives you a feel like a manual, with that little ‘breather’ between changes …… to me the Scud is one of the finest modern day Ferrari driving cars …. If you ever get the chance … drive one or own one ….

[@Ratarossa]

Superb review !! James has a very high spec Scud there. Very interesting to see how Ferrari changed the engine strut on the carbon upgrade lid to a simple lightweight stick and ditched the hydraulic rams on the standard option lid .... learnt something new with that one.

[@chriscooper3384]

It’s not even the lightweight full carbon option that was offered in period for the regular F430. The scud version is an aluminium/ carbon hybrid down graded to save costs.

[@JayEmmOnCars]

@7:45 the issue is with the carbon headlights, they give off some kind of gas or something and it is what clouds the headlight inners. To fix them you have to split the headlight in half, and at seven grand a pair not many people are willing to take it on! 9:10 if you have the non carbon engine cover it has gas struts 16:45 beep on key removal is because it wants to be left in gear (it has no "park" setting)

[@TheCarGuysTV]

“There was a time that was all the money in the world to you, now it’s a day’s pay…” 😀

[@JayEmmOnCars]

​@@TheCarGuysTV were it so! Very glad to see the car out and getting some love and thanks for looking after it while I was away

[@TheCarGuysTV]

@@JayEmmOnCars 👍🏻

[@ferrikrismik5514]

Hi James, I think your car shifts a bit on the slow side compared to others. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a363o2qgba53gtU

[@scottthomson9813]

Superb video as ever. The 430 Scuderia is right at the pointy end of my list for greatest cars. You did it justice so thank you!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Much appreciated

[@MR_BJH]

Finally, hopefully this will be worth the few hour wait!!! One of the best sounding Ferraris of all time in my opinion

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@Lukec4ge]

The sound comparison was brilliant. Challenge Stradale > Scuderia imo. Just…

[@timmietz]

Of my 3 Ferraris, this is my favorite one. So much character! I am extremely lucky to own one!!!

[@scuddryvr8784]

Scud owners group

[@details78]

Damian brings back "ribbed for her pleasure" 😂 One of the most hilarious spontaneous CarGuys quotes in the back catalog. Nice call back!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

I thank you

[@amarjit_singh_]

That F1 single clutch automated gearbox in the 430 Scuderia is arguably the best iteration of that gearbox. The driving experience is more raw than the 458 Speciale and much more improved than the 360 Challenge Stradale.

[@aaronburberry4656]

The 458 didn’t use the F1 transmission it used a duel clutch system

[@Macki1287]

@@aaronburberry4656 He never said it did! Still the Scuderia F1 box is more raw, as he said, and enjoyable as the DCT of the 458 (i have only driven the Speciale). Not sure why, but the DCT of the Speciale tries to be a more raw version of the F1 Gearbox of the Scuderia, by beeing more harsh on the upshifts, and not properly applying throttleblips while downshifting, resulting in almost locking up the rear tires while shifting down. in normale driving however, the DCT is way better and smoother. The Scuderia F1 Box on the fast shift mode is just perfect, right amount of rough and harsh upshifting, while perfectly timed blips on the downshifts just sound and feel amazing. driving slow result in headnodding of the driver and passenger

[@Fzr005]

Love the back to back sound comparisons Damian. Please do more direct comparisons!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@simonwyss7084]

superb review! As a proud owner of the magnificent 430 Scuderia I can only share your driving experience and your appreciation for this car! Each time it gives me goosebumps! Compared to the 458 Spider (my first Ferrari) the 430 Scuderia is raw, noisy, brutal. It's another dimension: the 430 Scuderia is like a F1 track car, you can feel Michael Schumacher's legacy. In comparison the 458 Spider is more every day use, sleek, although also a superb driving experience. I love both cars. But if I had to choose one, it would be the Scuderia. Not least in honour of Michael Schumacher. Keep on fighting Michael!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@CharlieBeveridge]

Great video. Special Schumi era Ferrari's will only go up hugely in value.. Cars like these give an experience that no other cars deliver.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Agreed

[@neilgaydon5430]

Brilliant. Your Ferrari series is going to be reference for anyone wanting to learn about the cars and brand for years to come. I love the old school meets modern f430, preferring it to the brilliant 458, contentious I know, in looks, sound, feel and drive. Mechanics at my Ferrari dealer (one of which just won Ferrari mechanic of the year) believe the f430 to be the best Ferrari. I have a manual coupe with carbon buckets, like a Scud, where you “wear the car”, and near perfect for UK roads. No doubt the Scud is the peak 430 but I love a manual, shame they never did one.

[@scuddryvr8784]

Call me crazy. I tracked my Scud. Chris Harris agrees that it’s the best of both worlds, still raw but properly quick, and the one he would chose. It will not remain in the reasonably priced column forever.

[@anthonycatanzariti4848]

Amazing video as always! Loved every minute of this series so far and I really appreciate the little bit of Ferrari history in there at the end. Well done and keep up the great work.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@65Antonis]

What a presentation this has been!! Marvelous!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@markh6384]

Epic car, great video. Particularly enjoyed the addition of the POV camera behind your shoulder pointing forwards, that was cool!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

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[@MrGB1999]

The 430 is extremely pretty in the flesh and is a wonderful bridge between the graceful models before it and the more angular, "modern" (ie date very quickly) models from 458 onwards. I love the Scud too, but the standard 430 with darker wheels, and in darker colours preferably, is another Ferrari car styling masterclass. Wide looking (and actually wide), elegant, subtly aggressive, timeless. PS black cars in midday sunlight never look great. Try dusk lighting for darker cars = 😍 (PPS leave the car in 1st and it will beep no longer)

[@Richspjones]

Awesome video; you can't beat The Beans!

[@adamski5977]

It's strange but I think it's one of the most beautiful ferraris, it's at the top of my list. Great episode 👏

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks

[@freddaniali]

"It's rough as a badger's a$$ in here" - Damian, you have the funniest quips and I love it! Thank you for this marvelous review!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you for watching, my friend

[@AntoniusTyas]

James' Scud has some insane spec with all the carbons, easily one of my favourite Scud spec. I don't even mind the Nero Daytona paint since it's very metallic-y.

[@joaolameiras6170]

The scuderia and 997 gt3rs are the best cars made hal time.. sensation of drive, and sound. The brutal change gear, single clucht is top raw experiencie

[@TungNguyen-mx4fn]

“The fuel gauge is about as reliable as a lookout on the Titanic”. 😂

[@garyg5947]

Great review and not a blooper in sight which is a miracle with all that techno-speak!! 👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👌🏻

[@chrisgoat6435]

Most underrated and overlooked Ferrari ever, not on the scuderia version. They sleep so much on it, it will be morr than a unicorn soon.

[@TS-wp3wt]

Sounds so good yet with an aftermarket exhaust it sounds bonkers!! One of the best cars ever…

[@DannyVRPM]

Top 5 best Ferrari’s ever made alongside LaF and Speciale

[@FerrariCollector87]

Simply perfect spec, Avio Mettalic with yellow calipers is the only spec that looks better. The valvles opening sounds great. i still prefer the exhaust pops on 458. one thing i didn´t know about the pop sounds on 458 is that they only came on 2011+ models, the 2009 and 2010 ones dont have it, some owners updated their ECU SW versions on 2009 and 2010 models to start poping.

[@brianiswrong]

The picture of James looks like it was taken just after you tod him you had a " moment" with the scud and tractor and a hedge😮

[@LifeatSpeed]

Incredible video! Extremely well done. The 430 Scuderia is one of my favorite modern Ferraris. One day, I'll add one to my stable. Thanks for putting this together.

[@itsjoel]

Such a well produced episode! Have always loved the Scud...

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Appreciate that, thanks

[@christianfloehr]

Lovely, Lovely, Lovely! Not just the best V8 Ferrari ever made… for me the best Supercar ever made! ❤ more visceral than all the ones coming after this and much better than the ones before. And the best: its the one I drove today with friends… Waiting for another round tomorrow. Ticking in the Garage… 😅

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Do tell…

[@iandavidson99]

By far the most interesting and in-depth review of the 430 Scud I've seen! Watched from start to finish, a really engaging video!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much, so glad you enjoyed it

[@myou6675]

Thanks Damian and James for some great Sunday morning Ferrari viewing

[@LeeTheVet]

Lovely edition of the 430! Looks great!

[@andrewhill9513]

Great video, i thought 40 mins would be too much, but it was a perfect review of a great car. ps I like that you referred to the GTO as just that, 288 was never officially part of its name, but of course you know that being your favourite 👍🤓

[@TheCarGuysTV]

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[@LoganL17]

Favorite ferrari! Little rough little elegant, full throttle!

[@lukewaring2832]

Oh yes, the noise.... Thank you for bringing us such a treat. Have to go for a thrash now... Epic..😎👌

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@paulvallins5994]

This vid should get you to 100,000 subs 🎉

[@teddyarcher3957]

As always, great informative video. I was wondering why scuds were often 150k more than standard 430s, sure I knew it was lighter and punchier. But you ticked all the boxes. 👍🏼

[@benaantje9365]

Probably my favorite Ferrari ever made!

[@aggie3344]

The 430 scud is the dream

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yes it is

[@nickorette]

For the beeps: it'll beep at you if key goes into ignition without seatbelt and again if you turn off ignition when car is in N (should be R or 1st). Fix those and no beeps!

[@noelht1]

D, you are a B’stard sir! I was just about to go to bed and now I have to watch this video😂

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Sorry - and it’s a long one too

[@noelht1]

@@TheCarGuysTV Hah. No need to apologise mate. It’s a good one and I always enjoy your content.

[@captain_context9991]

We had the Berlinetta 355, and it was indeed screaming. We also had one of the last off the line Lotus Esprit which was just as fast but didnt scream.

[@jimmyquinn9639]

Interesting video about Ferrari and another good video 🚘🚙🚗👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@MrObiwan1]

I think in terms of "bang for your buck" the Scuderia has to be up there when talking about the greatest Ferrari's !!!

[@markitoxi]

Very adequate to watch this just after the Ratarossa latest video on 430Scud

[@benpenagonzales6014]

Hoh he hoh! The Scuderia tickles your onions! Especially when it’s screaming like that.

[@philipguacci6452]

Great choices despite their age. The 16M is great looker and in that yellow. Che Bella.

[@jamesevans7056]

Looking forward to James’s suspension update video in the future 😊

[@steffydog]

Always a great video with a 430 Scuderia, thanks guys.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Our pleasure

[@wesdoobner7521]

Those 430's can really scuderia around the track pretty good.

[@UMNRZ]

Timeless Beauty 👏🏽 Why is the rear brake light having a fit at 00:42 seconds into the video??

[@minatormyth]

Brilliant video. Thankyou🤗 I love this drive every ferrari series.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@LoganL17]

Who do you know that just lets you drive awesome supercars? I wanna drive this one! One day…

[@matthiasgehringer8120]

Keep fighting Michael😢

[@london_james]

Nice lend (jayemm) and video guys

[@martinboulden4388]

If Michael Schumacher was involved in the development it gets my vote ! Another fantastic video Sir. ❤

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, my friend

[@bigcarvao]

almost a 100K subs...nice job on this one

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@MarcSob22]

The real top speed of the Scuderia is over 211mp/h as many tests on gps proved! After the Pista is my favorite line, with remap and direct exhaust this car has an absurd potential!! Pure mix between the more analog side of the CS and the modern side of the Speciale!! Great content

[@luislopes2240]

Great video about one of my favourite cars ever. I love the scud since i saw it in the magazines when it was launched.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@bennyrodriguez2862]

Thanks so much for the episode, very well done and agree with the comments. I love my Silverstone Grigio Scud all around.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

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[@laverdisti500]

hey Damian , you sold the CS ..?..really ?? that's something i can't understand ! Keep going on , like your video's !

[@allensaunders449]

Excellent vid as expected one of my favorite Ferraris

[@moogsta16]

Great video, thanks for chugging on with your mission of driving every Ferrari. A masterful car but I think this was the very start of the era where cars were designed to be all things to all people. Gradually they have progressed to today where they are amazing & perfect but very dull and soul-less. Now we have screaming track car that is also a shopping car, has artificial noise, is more comfortable and far from beautiful. In my opinion, less connected and missing the point. I would rather have an off the shelf raw F40, F50, or 360CS to name a few- designed soley for one purpose.

[@zakelwe]

Really enjoyed this episode, very well put together with thought and the presentation style treads a great line between spod and joker. You should be on the Beeb. Have to say I prefer the 430 looks over the 360. The headlights on those are so kit car. This car does demonstrate how Ferrari honed their NA V8s up to the pinnacle or the 458. Speciale In a parallel universe Ferrari did a 4.8 V10 engine that rev'd to 10 000 of course . Imagine a road going Ferrari V10 ... weeps silently. They were obsessed with V12 though, kept using them in F1 even when others went to V10. Then Lambo did one and so Ferrari could not see to be following them.

[@michaelblurry6559]

The rossa colored ones look very kit car-ish. The Argento ones look a lot better in person.

[@marius.kretzen2783]

Brilliantly made, and informative video. 👍👍

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you

[@alexandermercieca7878]

Awesome episode, thanks and Hi from Malta 😎

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Hi right back atcha, Alexander

[@keithmclaren9226]

An epic and fascinating episode! Learnt a lot and the pure joy of Drive Every Ferrari continues. Still a 456 or 512TR chap myself 🙂

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@ianschmidt4741]

Superb video as always gents, one of THE best channels on all of KZbin, did I hear you correctly Damian, Challenge Stradale has THE GREATEST BRAKES YOU'VE EVER ENCOUNTERED? Of any car you've ever driven? High praise given your seat time in so many legendary cars.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yep

[@JohnAgustinScuderia458595]

I've been waiting for this! Awesome Review as always!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@250danny]

Thanks for the great video review once again... btw there is a nice 16M in straststone manchester dealer i ve seen few weeks ago, in Bianco, ex JK car with a speacial plaque ,looks impressive but like you said its v.high price tag!!!

[@geoffclarke3796]

Brilliant car, one of my favourite Ferrari's. Faster than a 360CS, faster and better dynamically with a much improved grarbox though I agree the engine note not quite as good than the CS. I'd take one of these over a Speciale or Pista as there is some tech here but it doesn't dominate like on the later cars. Great video.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Cheers, Geoff

[@iiooppjjkkll]

Brilliant review - especially back to back comparison

[@helicrazee]

Fantastic review One of the best ferraris based on “bang for buck”

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you

[@edwardobernardino4347]

The Car Guys & JayEmmOnCars are my favourite channels. Compulsory viewing. Would you guys ever consider doing a combined episode.. maybe about which cars 2 go dogging in the forest with... Bernard from Australia 🦘

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Yes, I think we would. We’ve already done a Q&A on James’ channel, but I’m sure a road trip could be on the cards…

[@brianweekes1]

Agree, it’s not pretentious either, like some channels I won’t mention. Do check out that channel “number 27” especially his “Influenzo” and Ratarossa

[@ashleysutherland4118]

Fantastic review in-depth and coming from someone who has experience and a vast knowledge, top marks. 🤪

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much

[@iansmith7387]

Bloody good episode Damian

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thank you very much

[@johnmitchell2269]

The CS has such a unique sound mostly due to it being five valves per cylinder.

[@robertstone7271]

Great episode, love the long form!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

👍🏻

[@ingvartorma9789]

Thanks for a great video. In my eyes the Ferrari Scuderia is a beautiful car and the sound is wonderful, agree with you that it doesn't beat the sound of the challenge stradale. But easier to find a Scuderia for sale than a challenge stradale.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

True

[@Fioravanti.80]

The CS sounds sharper, more visceral because of the smaller capacity and crucially the 5 valves per cylinder. The 430 and the Scud sound great too, but not as multi-layered/multi dimensional.

[@Sahibsinghchohan]

Fantastic episode!!

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Much appreciated

[@kmac5849]

Another great episode, that ends with a feeling of ‘yes I’d love one’ …….but the carbon fibre reference’s grate with me ,particularly at the stratospheric price Ferrari charges , it’s posh Fibre Glass !😭

[@martinofleeds]

Brilliance as ever, I really like the 430 Scud. The way it went when the beans came out, just about had my CoCo come out. 💦 Keep returning to your videos, nobody like the Car Guys on KZbin, love these Lads.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks, Martin - I appreciate you watching

[@martinofleeds]

@@TheCarGuysTV And………that’s why we do watch You. The interaction with your followers is 2nd to none. There’s some right twats - mainly the younger than us end that are right up there own arses and give feed back to nobody who watches their Channel. On a side note, I’ve got a RRS P440e Autobiography on order for the Mrs - it’s been what feels like 2 years in the waiting sketch (Prob about 8 months in reality) when it does come, if your ever oop north, either of you, you’re more than welcome to use it in a video (When it does come!!) you can tell it how it is….be as honest as you want, I won’t be using it…..as I said it’s for the fun prevention officer……😆 Keep up the brilliant content…

[@TheCarGuysTV]

@@martinofleeds Fantastic - thanks, Martin

[@danofficial117]

1 of my fav Ferraris ,

[@jeremiahredden4689]

I adore my white 16M

[@robertlloyd7493]

Big up to James 👍

[@fluke9]

highly realistic wagging taillight at @0:43

[@DwainDwight]

savage is the word. and sweet spot it is. I will get one soon I think. TBH I need one

[@johnforeman634]

What I’ve noticed about the 16M is people don’t seem to want to drive them. They keep them low mileage and tuck them away due to their value. This may be one model that soars to dizzying heights in the far future I’d imagine.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Very true, you rarely see them driven, only stored.

[@TungNguyen-mx4fn]

Beautifully make episode. Makes me miss mine. 😢

[@lkearney7299]

They could tidy up the splashes though!

[@nimedave]

I’m about to put your words to the test Damian and take mine on a couple of big euro trips. My question is do I leave the Cup2 tyres on or switch to something more general purpose?

[@MJL_-jf2qz]

When is the next @thewatchguys video!!??🙏🙏

[@stephenrooker1941]

Great review Keep up the good work

[@TheCarGuysTV]

Thanks

[@Μανος13]

As always incredible review! i thought that jay emm's scud was grey.

[@TheCarGuysTV]

His previous one was