Renault Sport Megane 265 vs Toyota GT86: The FULL Challenge | Fifth Gear

[@NafaratMiyaMiya]

We lost Sabine earlier this year, so its great to see the other track queen VBH still doing an amazing job! These two would be great having their own show ... two classic legends!

[@RoobehTunes]

Yes, Vicki and Tiff are a wonderful presenting duo.

[@TheDashPL]

The fact that the gt86 is compared to a megane rs (cup or non cup) is just silly, gt86 comes closer to a clio but nowhere near megane

[@marccardiss6124]

Clio faster

[@1061shrink1061]

agreed.. this is a bunch of really artificial tests that don't really represent what these cars will do in the real world. On a track, the 265 would absolutely vanish into the sunset, leaving the GT86 wondering which way it went. I've driven a GT86 at length, I own a similar powered MX5 and i used to own a Megans 275 trophy. The Megane is hugely faster than the GT86 in every way.

[@smellylittlekiwi5743]

Got to love there enthusiasm in whatever they drive

[@mpa1931]

Vicki and Tiff have just as great chemistry as May Hammond and Clarkson. They could do a non car show and it would still be fun.

[@phase3ute]

That’s the worst comparison I’ve ever seen. I’ve owned both and tracked both. These 2 are worlds apart in handling. The megane is that much quicker it’s not even funny. Do you see the Toyota even close to a megane around the Nürburgring. Nope. It’s like comparing a megane to a gt3 rs. Just ludicrous

[@baronhyatt6729]

Geat episode any with vicky is great we all love vicky

[@davidpeters6536]

Tiff! Nice to see you on this, I hope to see you return in the next series

[@davidwalden444]

This is from 9 years ago unfortunately :(

[@gavinivers8941]

Would be interesting to see the new GR86 tested.

[@DoubleDeckerAnton]

Vicky has a lot of enthusiasm, as usual.

[@johnswift500]

Vicky s in good shape without the extra horse power

[@somajaib7467]

Tiff has a brilliant driving skills! Impressed

[@davieheartattack]

Would like to see Tiff do a lap in the Megane, just to get a better lap reference

[@massimilianozeni1848]

if the gt 86 was tested with the primacy (it must have since it came with those tires only back then) it didn't stand a chance with a car which probably wore sport cup. Same tire and it would run within a second of the megane being more fun and preparing you for a future sport car with more power (RWD). Having said so Vicky s legs looked really good in this one ahahah

[@minimumtrade]

Meganes came with Pilot Sport 2 or Bridgestone RE050A. Only the final 275 variants had Cup tyres as an option in some markets.

[@massimilianozeni1848]

@@minimumtrade I see, but still, the primacy are eco tires, terrible in terms of grip, the gt 86 also has more like 180hp when dynoed. How many second gap would you reckon there are in between the two cars on this track. I don t know the track I just guess the time gap per minutes between a track day tire and a primacy

[@supposedly6991]

@@massimilianozeni1848 Their megane didn't have cup chassis which is essential if you want to drive on track... How dreadful

[@lukekindred1999]

@@supposedly6991 the one in the video is a cup

[@bat33.12]

@@minimumtrade The megane is on 19's in this clip, it has the red stripe on the rim, so it's on Bridgestones, almost every test back in the day said they were much better handling cars on 18's with Michelins. Evo ran an RS 265 for 6 months on 19's and 6 months on 18's and concluded 19's were only good for looks, personally I think the 19" Steev's look awful compared to stock 18" tibors

[@rossappleton9758]

Loved your show n still do.. 🍻

[@mikadavies660]

Every episode of 5th Gear is always full of proper testing, energetic driving and sound advice. Year after year this team delivers.

[@fillman86]

5:37 as an owner of an 86 I can't disagree with "deserves it victory" more haha it's slow, and handles better than a boat... Tiff is clearly the better driver, and struggled to win (note using the handbrake for the reverse 180 and more). No shame or anything, but this feels staged, or they would have swapped cars

[@PeakPerformanceReviews]

Makes me proud of my Fiesta ST’s 1 min 29 second lap and my FK8’s 1 min 24 😬🙌❤️ Vicky is a ledge! Love Tiff too 😬

[@edwinjoseph2163]

this is more testing the individual driver's skill instead of the capabilities of the car...if they wanted real results they would have have switched drivers each rounds or something...

[@supposedly6991]

This test is completely irrelevant, no cup chassis for this megane plus vicki doesn't drive as well as tiff. Utterly useless testing.

[@edwinjoseph2163]

@@supposedly6991 yeah I’ve always hated their reviews. I’ve watched many of them to see how they conduct the reviews but it’s almost like they have something against the meganes.

[@memeguyTM]

Best way to test hot hatches is fastest around a twisty track

[@tonydrake462]

bought a new 265 trophy+ in 2013-- had to sell in 2022 - and of the 30+ cars I've owned, my fav... so so sad when she went and I WISH there was a way I could have kept her...

[@anthonyl4894]

I’d love to see it go up against the upcoming Toyota GT86

[@mattsamuels3607]

GR86 & it’ll be close 👀👍🏼

[@supposedly6991]

Rwd in non supercars just isn't totally right. Unintentional oversteer is very dangerous and annoying, sure your reflex (if you are a good driver) will sort that out by counter steering, modulating throttle input and so on but still you don't want to have any possibility of unintentional oversteer at all... Rwd is best suited for track focused supercars, you can't see them unintentionally oversteering because they have so much grip...

[@largelampard3721]

@@supposedly6991 Nah, luxury cars are all rwd. Fwd can not be as comfortable as rwd through corners at the same speed. Fwd is only good with hot hatch or kei cars due to the short body.

[@LoftechUK]

This. Idea is great Keep up all the good work

[@TheDJCARNIVAL]

A fun non-serious comparison obviously. If Tiff was driving both and doing a proper track time comparison the RS would demolish the GT everytime. Being able to drift a car is only one element of fun, the RS in Cup and non-cup is still bags of driver loving fun and much more capable, plus easily upgraded to be even more powerful. GT is more comparable to a Clio RS. Both great drivers cars.

[@randomtapesbymaroof2686]

Does the soundtrack sound familiar? 1:05

[@supposedly6991]

GT86 carries more speed through the corners 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's ridiculous how untrue it is. I bet RS 265 cup can go at least 30-40 kmh faster in every corner before that gt86 breaks traction.

[@ΝικόλαςΛόγχη]

cope

[@broshido2745]

The 86 has prius tires what do you expect, but better tires and the renault has no chance in the corners, simple physics you know

[@edwinjoseph2163]

@@broshido2745 u realise the Megane is made for corners…

[@danielkyllo4121]

@@edwinjoseph2163 lol, and the 86 isn't? 🤦‍♂️

[@ResevoirGod]

Tell you can’t drive without telling me you can’t drive

[@Stallzyx]

6:39 RIP Sabine

[@ashzciwobuz1277]

As someone who owns the same Megane I'll agree that the handbrake is kinda crappy. Also I agree, that limiter comes up really quick when it kicks in. Otherwise it's a beautiful car to drive.

[@scottnewlands628]

totally distracted by vbh legs!

[@ItsJak3FromStateFarm]

This brothers starving

[@HeyitsMartyn]

But weird but ok

[@Jetdot37]

Creep

[@pigupigu]

Would

[@sunilayya8948]

Is the gt86 made by subaru for toyota?

[@friskoskiez3761]

Partnership

[@MyTrucker55]

now thats a stunning pair of .....cars

[@jledge8715]

Nice to see that renault still can't make a gearbox 😂

[@ChasingDifferentAdventures]

It's rear wheel for me, and Toyota is the only one available in the USA, California 👦🏻👍🏻🏁🏎

[@oootaffooo501]

The RS cheap GT3 nothing will beat a Renault Sport on the track for the money.

[@babisotonggg]

Should have swap driver every other round . fwd vs rwd on kinda drifting thngy? Wth?

[@carlossixtysix]

Sir Drift-A-Lot... hahaha! Spot on Vicky

[@after_midnight9592]

This Megane can easily be remapped to 300 HP, which is something most owners do. 86 can't match that turbo power.

[@michaelteofilo5204]

Unless you strap a turbo to it

[@LP640Murcielago]

@@michaelteofilo5204 they have a history of blowing up when turbo'd or supercharged. Usually an engine swap with that chassis is best. Awesome car though and that's coming from an RS265 owner

[@supposedly6991]

Also RS has a much more capable chassis than GT86. RS is a much more capable, much better handling car.

[@richboy900]

The Renault has way more torque with the turbo. I'd say the Toyota more fun, but the Renault a more serious track machine

[@Jinetee]

@@supposedly6991 you are so salty Megane lost the handling tests 😂 get over it

[@richardsmith9509]

Vicki looks great in tights !!!!!

[@demon1954]

Stockings and suspenders, surely?

[@demon1954]

Blonde? Gorgeous? Naughty? Loves cars? Understands cars? Proper quick driver? Please apply here.

[@walterfuller4661]

What car?

[@JRosey777]

A fun not serious test. This is a Apple vs orange test. If the cars were similar power and weight you would see RWD cleanup. Just imagine if you detuned the boost on the Megane RS to 200hp or the new 2.4 86 was tested? Still most young people have grow up on FWD and manufactures build there performance vehicles of those platforms. RWD is basically dead except for a few cases, sigh 😔

[@B__L]

Turbo GT86's making around 300hp with the "standard" track mods i.e. Coilovers, wider wheels and tyres, better brakes etc. Do almost identical lap times to Meganes with similar mods. They're both extremely capable cars.

[@tyebando5123]

Their incompetence in doing these tests were painful to watch

[@N911GT2]

So you decide the Toyota is better because you made two test up where it excels. Great testing. Completely unbiased. 😂

[@Gurka84]

Its more fun, I think this is enough

[@elysian3623]

@@Gurka84 owning a modded megane 250 cup and comparing to my mates trd gt86, we both agree the well sorted meg will make you shit yourself

[@Gurka84]

@@elysian3623 You can only compare stock VS stock or modded VS modded otherwise it looses the point

[@elysian3623]

@@Gurka84 doesn't make much difference, the Meg stock was still scary, faster than his supercharged type r he had before, point being that in this test which had a car made for fun vs a car made to tackle tracks quickly they had a fwd car trying to drift, the fun of the meg comes differently and it depends what you want but since his TRD came with the hks supercharger my point remains valid yes?

[@angxiang3186]

👋 Vickie, 👍 on the Megane. Love your drift n poise ❤️

[@robertebob3596]

Missed most of the first test oggling at Vickys thighs , shes lovely.

[@cameraprepper7938]

Why didn´t you chose the newest Renault Mégane 1.8 R.S. 300 Trophy !? And why not the newest Toyota GR86 !?

[@gpajic1987]

Because it's an older test and those didn't exist

[@chandu8081]

Megane RS is a killer if you kill with it.

[@andrewmccullough9334]

Tiff is a god damn legend

[@LoftechUK]

I’m still giggling. Brilliant 😂

[@markcompton6750]

Just how old is this?

[@blatantlyjohn6234]

Late 2012

[@Bogdan00]

@@blatantlyjohn6234 lol why they post it 9 years later?

[@petermartin9494]

But the GT86 is no longer in production... The GR86 is even better.

[@Chair991]

ok and?

[@petermartin9494]

@@Chair991 Just in case you are unaware.

[@supposedly6991]

It's completely pointless if it's not cup version of Megane... How on earth do you not the cup megane with proper lsd instead of that understeering machine

[@rooben6741]

FWD cars will always lose out for drift style slides, particularly up against RWD cars, so this test in particular was pretty much biased and unfair. To state the FWD Megane lost to the RWD Toyota in a test which favoured the Toyota is a bit cheesy. Bottom line: The Megane spanked the 86 on the fastest lap test where it matters. Simple.

[@georgegard.aka.currymonste1498]

In my humble opinion vicky is the fastest thing on the track

[@endless_touge]

At least Gt86 doesn't look awful

[@pyrho1]

poor Vicky has to listen to Tiff mansplain her lap

[@nisancashi2241]

my pick defenily the megane. gorgeous legs Vick

[@JuanAntonEgo]

The French know how to build them hatchbacks no doubt. But il still get the 86. 😁

[@Hyfun7]

Old wine in old bottles.... No problem!

[@asharma9345]

No audio. Kindly re upload.

[@DashCamSerbia]

There is audio.

[@rdmz135]

time for new headphones?

[@mistreku]

RWD always better, no matter what makes you sleep at night. FWD is just the equivalent of P/C in automotive terms.

[@JustAGameShow]

Try telling that to the M5/Merc AMG baseball capped fanboys who couldn't keep up with my friends 1.6 RS Clio in the Yorkshire Dales last weekend... 😎

[@nissanoo0393]

@@JustAGameShow haha all these high power saloons and suv eat shit on proper yorkshire b roads LOW WEIGHT :DD

[@rhysholley8289]

With a better driver could easily have been 2-1 the other way

[@CedricFlavien-bd8vc]

Toyota with Mégane engine,=fun

[@ripptorr]

oh Vicki...

[@samgarrod4781]

Oh I miss scary tree.

[@LeeHughes-m8o]

Totally drifrent cars mx5 be more suited to gt86 but al fun to watch

[@999.9finegold]

I miss her...

[@5thgen418]

You both could be good 5 sec faster in lap if you were not talking And I don't understand why I keep hurting my heart by watching cars because I can't afford any right now until I hit a lottery

[@Garf2O]

1 probably not even that much and 2 if you need to hit a lottery just to get a used BRZ then you got some issues mate

[@verygoodbrother]

Well the whole point of the tv show is to present the cars to an audience so not describing the experience would defeat the purpose of the show.

[@bighes100]

The Megane has the legs.... 😁

[@owenad385]

Im sorry but whos drifting a megane

[@was05game73]

Mégane is the all best❤

[@adrian5401]

I would love to do a few laps with Vicky, bet she is a real beast when in high gear.

[@Nick-Emery]

VBH is a good driver, but she doesn't know how to J turn a Fwd car

[@simonxant]

The Renault will burn a hole thru your pockets

[@mistertoet200]

Toyota all the way

[@nathanbreakin9684]

Lol

[@blademanx]

Rear wheel drive all day long

[@supposedly6991]

Totally irrelevant test done in wet and with different drivers. Megane is much more capable

[@Live.drones]

Its nice to see senior citizens reviewing cars. Out of touch, but sweet.

[@cdb5001]

Out of touch is someone focusing on age and blind to see the quality of the presenters. Shallow and pathetic.

[@pedrammaymand3195]

Vicky and the way she drives that Megane is just dreadful. In this Test, Megane's strength here is the G turn and she uses the handbrake to do that, and each time comes to a dead stop and again accelerates from that dead stop with the FWD. that is just dreadful!

[@gman7692]

VBH aggressive flicking. Mmmm.......

[@ae747sp5]

2 0 or 2.4 in the Toyota?

[@richardhoulton4016]

Old model. 2.0

[@ae747sp5]

@@richardhoulton4016 Thank you.

[@williamhardes8081]

i can end the argument in ten seconds. buy an Audi..

[@Orjan06]

Nah😂

[@samgarrod4781]

Thighs all the way

[@marcov4190]

Sabine...

[@itsyourAGS]

40th liker and first comment 😉😎

[@patrickduffy94]

Calm down big boy

[@andrewnorris5415]

Baller.

[@itsyourAGS]

@@andrewnorris5415 What this mean

[@itsyourAGS]

@@patrickduffy94 I am calm

[@ΝικόλαςΛόγχη]

Dafaq is wrong with you

[@robertlloyd7493]

👍

[@tomaszbudnik521]

FWD will be always worse proposal than RWD. FWD was introduced to cars as is faster, easier and cheaper to build for car makers. That's only advantage of FWD over RWD.

[@davidsanderson2960]

Not in snow or icy conditions it isn't.

[@aliffadel2658]

Hai

[@stephaneroger686]

Sexy la pilote !

[@adambarrs92]

this is just a stupid test

[@stoneisland6789]

Vic's dress would look better in my 265rs 🤪🤪

[@rubrown1397]

Firs comment

[@13coyote13]

It's a Subaru, same as the Celica is a BMW as the Toyota Yaris is a Mazda.

[@Kim_Miller]

Only partly true. Designed by a Toyota engineer, Toyota transmission and Toyota specially designed diff, Subaru motor with Toyota designed intake setup and sump, built in Subaru factory with lots of bits, lights etc, branded with Subaru name. It was always a Toyota concept and they had to talk Subaru into taking part.

[@steve75112]

Femininism strikes again! This is a MAN'S channel. Vicky is here purely for eye candy----BRING BACK TIFF!

[@matthewking5612]

GT86 shit engine.

[@adobereviews1626]

The little shelf curiously cough because cafe developmentally support after a joyous chive. unusual, sweltering amusement

[@memeguyTM]

Renault is better. Driver was the problem 😆

[@vtheruthless1v898]

Women drivers 😂

[@supposedly6991]

Tiff is clearly a much better driver especially in that first test where vicki showed little to no skills whatsoever, god how women can't drive

[@ΝικόλαςΛόγχη]

It's a souped up fwd econobox you third worlder misogynist

[@thephantomarse]

Gotta go back nine years for some decent fifth gear Don't know what's going on with the electric cars or rubbish new presenters