Fight Or Flight: How Our Primal Instincts make us feel Alive but is it Killing you?

Do you love a good Roll? Can't wait for the next open mat? The addictive feeling of an Adrenaline hit from a great BJJ session is hard to beat. Tapping into your primal instincts of Fight or Flight really makes you feel alive! It breaks the boredom of life and revitalises the spirit!
But it also breaks the body down and really accelerates the aging process. How can you navigate what it takes to be really good at Jiu-Jitsu and not throw your body To The Flames? JT & Joey go deep on what it takes to go hard but stay in the game:
1.) The Real Fight Club
2.) Primal Instincts Unleashed
3.) Wear Out or Rust Out
4.) Treat Your Body better than Your Car
5.) Can Humility Beat Pride?
If you truly love the game and want to stay at it for as long as possible you need to think long term. You can avoiding surgery, injuries and a world of pain but it will take a different approach. Make time to look after your rig and future you will thank you.
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[@carminecalante8682]

36 year old 2 stripe purple belt here. I can confirm that at some point a couple of years ago i realised that competition in the adult brackets may not be doable for me anymore. After a run of competing, getting injured, time off, competing again, getting injured, time off. and so on. i realised that i had to shift my focus and let go of the idea of being an athlete in the sport. I work full time, have a child, train, and its dawned on me that in order to continue doing this thing, i have to become the hobby bjj player. i think there comes a time in everyones bjj timeline when they have to make that decision if they want longevity in bjj.

[@user-ku2tq1js2v]

Training jits for 20 years now, about to turn 40. Feel great, still compete in the adult divisions, if I stop my body feels worse. I train jits probably 5 times a week. Lifetime natty.

[@badxradxandy]

The better I got, the less I got hurt.

[@valiantsoul94]

My joint locks don’t work but there’s do, I’m new and I feel the pain

[@badxradxandy]

@@valiantsoul94 tap early tap often until you learn escapes defense and prevention

[@letshuman8985]

@@badxradxandy the best advice ever!

[@EthanNoble]

Same

[@FeralLogic]

The body needs time to recover and repair. The problem is that we FEEL that time out of the gym. Hopping back in after just two weeks of no rolling you are gassed, slow and you get wrecked by people that haven't taken a break.

[@ryfree]

I'm a 41 year old purple belt and I struggle between my love for the sport and acknowledging the damage that it's doing to my body. Trying to find the middle way because quitting the sport or wrecking my body are both terrible options.

[@Halligan45]

Brilliant and honest point about "stoic pride" vs "at the end of the day" when your knee is f*cked and you're the one disabled. Thanks for keeping it real guys. There is a definitely a balance but it's not often talked about and even discouraged by some.

[@spearfishingmiami]

These guys are saying everything that I don't hear anywhere else regarding Jiujitsu. I'm a fan this.

[@wills8656]

I'm Brazilian, and I train at a traditional school where we mostly have gi classes. When I started, the first thing I implemented was weight training to develop as much lactic acid tolerance as possible. I asked my coach for tips, and his answer was, "Training is enough. You can work out, but there's mat cardio, and that's something you can only gain here." He had the everyday porrada mindset. Then, I found you guys and learned the importance of stretching and becoming stronger. Dr. Galpin's protocols and Jordan Sullivan's knowledge on food have greatly improved my life. BJJ is a challenging path to take, but if you're curious and seek knowledge, it's a smooth ride.

[@madhatter631]

I have found jiu jitsu quite revitalizing as someone who’s looked around recently and worried I always choose the path of least resistance. It’s a good way to prove to myself I can and will still do difficult things.

[@bobbydabutcha]

Being an auto mechanic for a decade, swapping 100lb. truck wheels/tires for 8-9 hours a day during busy times 2x a year (Winter/Spring), stripping cars outdoors during all sorts of extreme weather in a wrecking yard, wielding a 30 lb. chop saw, digging out cars in 3 feet of snow, pushing out stuck cars all day, hard drinking, hard loving, hard living, being in Alaska in general.. has greatly lended itself to learning and training Jiu Jitsu both short and long term. I am 43 years old, 5'5, 135lbs., Blue belt a year in. Does my body hurt and did it age my body? Of course! Did you not just read what I wrote?! :D

[@tededo]

50 here. Grappling since early 2000s. I am observing the young guys rolling and they slowly cumulate injuries. Mostly from rolling hard and tough. I dont see the point in trying to win or beat the other guy anymore. None of these guys have been in this longer than me. Wonder why ? At the pace they roll, I guarantee they'll quit a decade from now, and I'll be rolling still at 60, promise you that, PROMISE YOU. My tricks, no one cares at the academies where I roll. If you touch my ankle (leg lock), I tap from the first knee rip attempt. One student realize I was rolling like a drunk man, like those drunk kung fu fighters. Indeed. I allow most students to take my back standing or ground. I allow them to pick, grab and take everything they want. My ghost grappling style is that I set up traps, and catch their limbs as they lunge for sub attempts. That method saved my health on the mat.

[@reiniervanramshorst1031]

You guys are always talking about injuries and overtraining and the cost and here I am, 37, just got my purple belt after starting in my thirties, lost 80 lbs, quit drinking, never felt better. I do about 4-5 sessions a week. Maybe if I did 10 I would get it 😅 I know a few guys who roll quite formidably in their 50s and even 60s. They have some injuries but they hurt from doing real athletic stuff and battling 22 yr old blue belts. Don't most people their age hurt about the same but from sleeping wrong or walking stairs?

[@badxradxandy]

Half guard, lasso and closed guard will save your ass if you're masters vs younger peeps

[@RubesTune]

I agree completely! I feel like my body is only getting younger! Congrats on the purple belt.

[@wrxstock2820]

37 is still young. And no, you don’t get sore at 50 doing normal things.

[@ambitionammunition]

I got told by the physio to not train for a little bit because of my knee. Told the guys. They wouldn't let me. Even months after they're still like "is this okay for your knee?" The instructor said you need to learn how to train with an injury. He wont push you to do anything.

[@emilbendtsen8699]

Train with less intensity, so you are able to train more often without fatigue or damage to body.. but brain got better at JJ .. but with enough intensity to DEFEND yourself

[@Halligan45]

"Cuz they're all drug addicts" XD XD XD 🤣🤣🤣 Realer than one might think!!! 😂😂😂

[@JamesReborn2023]

Idk. My 86 y/o grandmaster has been training and teaching Taekwondo/boxing and a few other martial arts, and other active things too, I mean he even has a Tae Bo class 😂 I’ve never met anyone who moves like him at his age. He’s lightning fast. To see him spar someone and move like he does is truly mind blowing (he’ll let you him to show you it’s okay, you don’t have to not try bc of his age, then when you actually start trying he starts dodging, blocking, and hitting you so fast you can’t keep up 😂 I love watching him do it to people and them walk off after with that “wtf??” look on their face) He’s had problems tho, surgeries, but health is more in the mind than anything. It’s like the foundation we lay our work on. What we do to our bodies matters but is highly affected by our minds/spirits. A person who thinks they’re sick all the time will be, whether they live healthy or not. He recovers every time like he’s still young. He lives young, acts young, has more energy than most 20 year olds these days. After his last injury he couldn’t tie his belt (couldn’t reach around the lower back) so he was wearing a Kung Fu fit, but in just a few weeks he was back in his Gi, belt tied, then in the back after class that night was showing us movements he could do again. He was like “I’ll be back! I’m coming back!” 😂 talking fast. I swear him and David Goggins have to be related, at least in spirit. Goggins reminds me of my Grandmaster a lot of times with the high energy and yelling, except David doesn’t talk as fast.

[@EthanNoble]

She prob has a better diet than most

[@leebruno1722]

My neck got fucked this week. Still going to open mat. Sundays are for healing. Every other day is for violence.

[@bulletproofforbjj]

🤙🏼

[@juliusjohnson4829]

Started at 17 im 26 now purple belt... i hit 7 bjj session in 3 days bc i work 4 days for 12 hrs. When i first started this schedule i was really trying to go a hard as possible each session. Now i pick which session/partner that i go 100 percent. Usually its based of the person im rolling with but ive really had to tone back how hard i train. B/c i realized that i wont get better if im not training. So its okay to loose a round or get subbed. Idk im still 26 so u know i gotta bang it out with people 😂. Basically if i know u compete its mundials round if u dont then im chilling but some days i just show upand try my best to not go mundials mode... till a white belt knees me in the face

[@haraldodunkirk1432]

Fascinating and important topic. BUT some queries- I feel you need to better pin down what you mean by “ageing”. Smoking, cocaine, stress, lack of sleep, sedentary lifestyle… this stuff “ages” you. BJJ can certainly put strain on joints, cause various injuries, but does it “age” you in the sense of making a 41 year old biologically/chronologically older than his twin who just does light jogging and callisthenics? I believe that if you use good posture, stretch and do strength work, you can minimise the damage, and the fact that it’s strenuous physical activity will keep you younger.

[@gordonandsandy]

Mint episode. Keep it up

[@Bucket70]

The fight club reference is spot on. dislocated jaw, ruptured ear drum, and tore all ligaments in my pinkie, gi abrasions all over. Freaking great day on the mat feeling amazing!! 51 years old..😂

[@BPchadlite]

bJj dOesNt mAke yOu gO bALd - THEY FUCKING LIED TO ME, ISTANBUL 2024

[@Miele__]

I love the podcast, but can you guys give some insight as to what kind of proactive measures? Physio, chiro etc? I am 28 and 1.5 months fresh white belt. Would love to hear your advice :)

[@user-lh4hv3tx8b]

Damn, this is good. Definitely enjoyed this one.

[@JJ4W]

10 things I hate about you, “can you be whelmed”?

[@juiceman7649]

I feel younger, I'd be a fat piece of shit if I didn't do jitz

[@yourleftisttesticle]

BJJ doesnt age you. Time does. Competition makes aging worse. If you want to not have a broken body, just dont compete at a level like that...

[@EthanNoble]

Look into mobility training calimovement and knee over toes

[@bulletproofforbjj]

No you look into it

[@EthanNoble]

@@bulletproofforbjj LOL

[@roupensadyan1456]

The Armenian shout-out ❤😂

[@sutters7251]

Yeah right so I can just inject heroin now and then? I won’t end up broke in a bed sit!! Jiu Jitsu at 51 is a trade off I know it’s going to hurt me but before I trained I felt slow lethargic and the warrior within was asleep. Now I have a brotherhood again. I feel alive! I had this realisation on the way home from the physio today. Tight hips and stabbing groin pain!!!

[@Kushgroove234]

Hard disagree that jujitsu ages you It gave me my youth and athelticism back in my 30s

[@Jonesislearning]

Listen man, no one needs to hear discouraging bs like this. Sure I’ve had several hamstring and groin tears and both my shoulders, knees, right hip, both ankles, left elbow, lumbar, thoracic and cervical spine, wrists, middle finger and right big toe are all shot after 7 yrs of bbj but I’ve got a black belt to get and we can’t be sidetracked by nonsense like this in this video. Long live jiu jitsu….osssss

[@sarahennis1702]

Is this for people who compete or across the board with jiu jitsu

[@Reflectionmaterial]

I can only guess he refers to hardcore competitors who over train and destroy their fingers with spider guard and get their limbs damaged regularly when late escapes fail (and shoot a ton of roids). For folks who do not over train and do not get their limbs ripped off it seems quite a healthy acitivity

[@Reflectionmaterial]

Weirdest post so far. Excercise and stuff that engages your mind is considered healthy by almost all studies. BJJ does not have strikes so unless you get your limbs torn off it does not really hurt you. And if you compete or spar often it does not put you in a lot of stress either. The sparring and competing creates a healthy outlet that can avoid you engaging in drug or alcohol abuse which other people might be more tempted to use as an outlet.

[@bulletproofforbjj]

You must not train BJJ- It hurts you plenty and you don't need to lose limbs to be injured. Cop a knee ride to the ribs and have them broken, then you will know mate. How about try actually rolling and find out? haha 😂 - JT

[@Reflectionmaterial]

@@bulletproofforbjj You are not a prize fighter or a gladiator mate. You are rolling around on the ground and if you tap it stops. Robbie Lawler is not punching you in the face for 5 rounds. Hurt ribs are not going to kill you or shorten your life expectancy. And if you are in decent shape and do not train with giants who jump on you with their weight trying to kill you then the odds of getting hurt are quite small. And since you are all about appeal to authority. I trained and competed in BJJ with the gi for 8 years. I now compete in Judo, Sport Sambo and wrestling competitions. I strain fingers during Judo and Sambo and get some bumps and bruises during wrestling but that is basically it. Worst injuries I had during BJJ training and competitions were hurt fingers and a few times a hurt joint.

[@bulletproofforbjj]

@@Reflectionmaterial Cool mate thats your experience, I know many who have suffered much worse. Your generalisations about BJJ are just limited to your perspective.

[@Reflectionmaterial]

@@bulletproofforbjj hmmm, well I guess if you are a hardcore competitor who trains every day, lets stuff break instead of tapping in matches (and shoots roids) while suffering all kinds of injuries from over training you might be right. However for the people who are not like that and tap out in time it's quite healthy. Even if you destroy your fingers with spider guard etc your body is still moving, and you are doing cardio vascular training and feel good while doing it. So how is that accelaring the aging process? If Yoga or fitness also accelarating the aging process?

[@shepsean1]

@@Reflectionmaterial you really just compared BJJ to yoga from a body strain perspective… You’re either lying or you have at least one kind of sport induced chronic injury you’re ignoring.

[@kcov6170]

Jiu-jitsu doesn't age you 🙄....time ages you

[@Reflectionmaterial]

Strange video

[@wrxstock2820]

It’s true. And I don’t like it lol