Fighting Games Go For a Walk

[@KBash]

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[@TheChronboy420]

How about shaolin monks? X'D

[@aozakiaokobestgirl306]

I thought I entered the second part of dmc video but I didn't realise it until half the video

[@MrServantRider]

I really loved Brawl's Subspace Emissary. The cutscenes weren't particularly over-complicated, but were appropriately epic for the characters involved. It was a ton of fun! Honestly the only real mistake in Subspace, if you ask me, was creating an original set of enemies. Instead of putting the dev time into those random enemies, just take enemies from the games. Imagine Earthbound enemies fighting alongside Sonic enemies. It'd be hilarious to fight, a lot more fun. I mean at least they got the Mario enemies.

[@xdjrunner]

They got it right in smash run, nearly perfected Subspace game mode, then...we got World of Light.

[@intensellylit4100]

@@xdjrunner special smash battle gallery

[@MegamiShin]

I wish Subspace and World of Light went on for less time.

[@vashido1866]

And then there's Shaolin Monks, wich is actually my favourite MK related game. And Guilty Gear got Overture, wich...wasn't THAT bad....okay, it was that bad. At least the soundtrack is godlike, but that's just GG.

[@Ponaru]

I actually enjoyed Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero. ...I'll see myself out.

[@jamesandrews3535]

Shaolin Monks fucking rocked!

[@Lagow_EX]

@@Ponaru Good Futa, you'll have a treat soon for your responsible actions.

[@YadonTheCat]

Judgment though... god no

[@sovieToilet]

MK Special Forces. I beat it as a child. I have autism ever since.

[@uncoolbug9055]

ok subspace was pretty awesome

[@KBash]

You know, I think i get bored when I'm not fighting a human 90% of the time

[@uncoolbug9055]

I guess I just like seeing a story with some of my favorite characters in it

[@MercenaryX]

I'm sorry to say KBash but maybe single player modes in games in general isn't your thing. You're more a moba player.

[@divagaciones1628]

I'm a sucker for this type of shit. I love Soul Calibur Legends, Mortal Kombat Armageddon's story mode and Brawl's subspace emmisary. Also, I think you should've mentioned the Tekken Force mode for Tekken 3, which is IMO a prime example of this type of shit done well. It's basically a game mode that's designed like a classic beat'em up sidescrolling game but keeps the exact control scheme of the regular fighting game, except you fight multiple enemies at a time which makes you be really aware of your surroundings. I fucking loved that shit as a kid and almost wish it was fully fleshed game.

[@confidencial7964]

"its not representative of the franchise it came from" said while displaying ivy butt. the best representation of the franchise

[@salaptas]

I forgot soulcalibur legends existed until this video

[@cokercolacat5062]

Jonathan Gleason you can find a review on the playlist.

[@voidmayo]

"Pretending Tekken even deserves a plot." opinion disregarded

[@chrisadams3656]

Funny as always kbash. Really appreciate that you try and put up games that not literally every person tries to review. Keep it fresh kbash, you're awesome

[@WEVIN]

oh i get it the fighting games actually go and take a walk

[@channel_abc123_]

Took me while

[@kingdomofthesaintful]

"or kill him with consecutive uppercuts" So just like Mishima combos then

[@crossbones116]

Shaolin Monks was pretty boss though.

[@ShatteredGlass916]

lol, it is THE BOSS. i never a huge fan of fighting games myself, so i kinda a bit bias lol

[@AnAverageGoblin]

its good except for making P1 and P2 share health. makes the game unplayable sometimes.

[@AtmosFabula]

Boy you're lucky you didn't mention Tekken 3's Tekken Force or else you woulda been in a whole lot of trouble

[@radoslav6861]

Atmos Fabula tekken force in Tekken 7, a dream that will never be reality :/

[@AtmosFabula]

@@radoslav6861 I just want an HD Re-release of Tekken 3, dude. All I want

[@radoslav6861]

Atmos Fabula i would prefer a T5DR :O

[@AtmosFabula]

@@radoslav6861 You are objectively wrong, please refrain from not worshipping Tekken 3

[@radoslav6861]

Atmos Fabula but Kazuya isn’t in Tekken 3

[@mostverticalproductions4808]

Going to be honest, I loved Konquest mode in the 3D MKs, they were so interesting and felt so fresh in comparison to arcade based story modes. GG, Soul Calibur, Tekken 5 and MK were the only games before MK9 I recall having a fleshed out story mode. Armageddon and Devil Within respectively were the most fun, but GG had the best story, if you can understand it.

[@TWilkinson89]

I was surprised to see this quality content had less than atleast 500k views. Keep it up man! I believe!

[@UptownDuck000]

"Today On KBash we play Sonic The Fighters" Make it happen

[@daddyrobin4628]

why you always yelling? I’m right here

[@storm8331]

Finally somebody said it! You release such good content, how could I not be all over you like (picks any good zinger from the video).

[@TheVeryAngryShrimp]

Heterochromia in Japanese media is the one thing that oddly turns me off to partaking in it. Every character I've seen who has it always has the personality of a soggy piece of cardboard in an alleyway after a torrential rainstorm of piss from 4 different hobos.

[@EliasCassab]

Except for best Waifu, Lady from DMC

[@TheVeryAngryShrimp]

@@EliasCassab Lady is best wife

[@gamersxpro1234]

Zurgo Pussysmasher As long as you’re not Dante

[@mirrorslash028]

Im gonna remember that one lmao

[@hellisfnboring8906]

I always loved these gamemodes, its just a + for fighting games. Everyone can enjoy classic gamemodes, but sometimes it was a nice change of pace to fight through these small campaigns. I miss them.

[@TerraFuu]

Start of the video: "Fighting games need to have more than just the boring fighting modes for braindead casuals." End of the video: "Fighting games need to just focus on the primary fighting modes because I like mashing it out with my friends." "What the heck do you mean MK Shaolin Monks exists? What do you mean Tekken Force mode allows you to use a character's Full Moveset in a new Beat 'Em Up environment? What do you mean the entire identity of classic 1P Soul Calibur is to read "boring text" to get pretense before a fight? What do you mean Melee's Adventure Mode and Smash 3DS's Smash Run exists?" I liked some of your past videos, but this effort was definitely weak. Fair points for the games displayed, but you're doing a disservice to the ones noticeably unmentioned and making the non-FG fans that can't do their own research believe that extra modes in FGs weren't ever worth checking out. If that were objective truth, so many fans wouldn't have been pissing themselves about how barebones console Tekken 7's content was and still is to this day despite the core game being widely praised by critics and fans alike. Regardless of how you feel about the quality, give merit where merit is due. Entertaining enough video for non-FG fans, so you accomplished that. An aside; this isn't really any true critique to the main subject of the video, just me being a bitch (feel free to ignore): Mortal Kombat, you give its lore a pass. The same franchise that, on-screen, kills its characters in the goofiest ways imaginable and got by purely on the insanity of it all. The same MK that retconned Kano's nationality just because of a non-canon movie. The same MK franchise whose most praised story titles, MK 9 and MKX, are rife with terri-bad decisions as far as writing goes (see the 4thSnake's breakdowns for in-depth commentary). The same MK that made Cooking with Scorpion. The same MK that gave us MK4's endings. That franchise's story is alright and should be appreciated for "what it is". But Tekken is just too retarded to get a story, should be ignored entirely. It's cool to be biased for your favorite game, but have some self-awareness. The "fighting game stories are pointless... u-unless it's muh NRS" meme needs to die. Bloody Roar 2 and both Rival Schools titles with their interwoven character interaction focus, the entire Soul franchise up until the PS3 era with its descriptive context for even mook battles, Tekken up until the 5th main game with its unpredictable yet pleasurably simple universe and enticing imagery, Evil Zone with its hyper focus on characterization, Garou Mark of the Wolves with its ambiguous leads... Fighting games can have intriguing characters and plots if they're respected enough to be considered. It isn't the genre holding the narrative back. A competent story can be told through any medium. The problem lies in the developers (probably) believing the players don't give a shit (to be fair, most hardcore fans say they don't even if they hypocritically admit that it's a game's personality that draws them) and fans who aren't vocal enough about wanting better rather than wanting it all gone/ignoring it entirely. The "fighting games are just fighting games" stigma is the worst shit to see so widely accepted as a casual fan in 2018. I mean, platformers aren't just "dudes jumping and shooting lemons" for example. No one's going to tell me MegaMan Zero's story isn't worth a damn just because it isn't a book. I don't scrub through movesets and improve just to go to locals. I do like Kazuya's anti-hero, wild card nature. I do like Siegfried's redemption arc. I do like Hyo's downfall. I do like Shenlong's identity crisis. Liking the characters, whether design or moveset, makes me end up knowing them more than just a nameless bundle of polygons and makes me want to know more about the avatar I'm dumping so many hours into. It's why character loyalists exist even in competitive fields. People just like the character, even if they're bottom-tier trash. And being a "character" implies having a story attached. Hence the fandoms always writing stories and in some cases attempting to bridge the gap between gameplay and narrative. Anyway, I've veered horribly off topic enough. Cheers.

[@xdjrunner]

I know it was a long comment, but I wholeheartedly agree with your overarching point about these modes. They're at least worth checking out when done right, and there a lots of examples that aren't just "adventure mode" (Tekken Bowl, naming one) Mostly I appreciate your point about these games' narratives taken seriously, as the ones you named definitely have great stories. I'm even a sucker for Tekken's story, not the interwoven/king of the iron fist one, but specifically character endings, which, had their substance for a lot of the characters (Eddy, Steve, King, Jacks, Michelle, Marduk, all to name a few)

[@rl7_slimkat]

Achievement unlocked 500 word essay no one will read

[@iamthestrong927]

@@rl7_slimkat I read it.

[@Maggerama]

Such a ludicrous over-reaction. It's wasn't some comprehensive genre analysis and it didn't pretend to be that. He didn't have to show all the games, be "objective" and consider the feelings of every fanbase, which lives revolve around certain games - he just showed a few low-effort games he didn't like to make fun of them, is all. Doesn't have anything to do with your religious zealotry, "character loyalism" and stuff like that, lmao.

[@joshuagamelin9311]

came to read commentd not books

[@chasehale3967]

Love this guy, congratulations on 10k

[@PICADALOL]

I keep saying this...you deserve more subs! Great content!

[@KBash]

HEY IT'S YOU

[@PICADALOL]

@@KBash You are awesome :OOOO

[@HolyHadou]

I still wish there was a fighting game that handled arena combat like a Power Stone or Star Ocean 3 but played and controlled like Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry. Then it could handle complexity and exploration without having to half ass it. At least in theory.

[@RayOfTruth]

4:47 when someone's never played MOTHER 3.

[@kimarous]

"Tekken's tryin' to order milk at the bar." (big gasp) LIKE IN MAJORA'S MASK? :D

[@patrickandrew7404]

Shaolin monks is a good game

[@Sirg17x]

Not sure how many of this guys videos I have now watched, but definitely earned a subscribe. Keep it up man! your videos have good quality, solid opinions, and a good flow to them. It also doesn't hurt that I keep seeing videos I missed of yours in the suggested bar on the side and seem to always add 2 or 3 to my watch later.

[@dvthemaster]

Im happy to hear someone else who knew what "Value Village" was

[@xdjrunner]

Dead ass I thought I was the only one and I live in Indiana hahaha

[@dvthemaster]

@@xdjrunner naw they're on long island too my guy

[@Tch356]

For someone who prefers subspace over the overly repetitive adventure mode in the new smash bros. I share some of the same common problems as you mentioned. pretty good video

[@Cakekxn]

I’m always excited seeing a new video from you! Good stuff as always, it was lots of fun!

[@terrybogard8482]

Remember when putting car smashing and barrel punching in a fighting game seemed like a revolutionary thing :D

[@aliteld0texe]

You keep doing your thing man, I'll see you again when you hit 100k

[@Hanshakou]

"I hope they are happy relegating the franchise to a joke" That hurt, even if it's the truest statement I've heard about SC for a while.

[@MrServantRider]

Yeah, that's not going away any time soon.

[@Coinman121]

I mean even before this there was the ridiculous crossover characters like fucking Darth Vader and Link. I think they were already comfortable being the butt of the joke.

[@keinkanal7382]

Since when did people take soul calibur ever serious with it's overly absurd premise. When was it not comedy. Plus it's fun seeing even more ridiculous custom characters on screen. Doesn't change the gameplay.

[@jessehampton7414]

Ive recently discovered your channel and im hooked. I love your delivery, confidence, and edits. I love your content and i hope your channel gets bigger :D ive binged your entire video catalog like... 3 times now

[@groovyhoovy9793]

even though I don't agree with all of your points I still enjoy watching your videos there high quality and deserve more attention

[@aidanneal5688]

When the first clip is from MK Armageddon you know the vid is going to be *E P I C*

[@SamuelWaggoner]

This was two years ago at 10k subs? Now it's July 2021 and you're at 90k subs (100 soon! 🎉). Your videos are so excellent, I'm gobbling them up day after day. Thank you for your effort and amazing content!

[@geekgo4]

But, what if they want their fighting game characters to expand beyond fighting games?

[@salutcava9841]

Netherealm studios already talk about a possible Shaolin Monks 2, or a way to incorporate the Konquest mode (Deception's one) with the exploration of the different realms in their future games, so I think you talk a bit too fast

[@Logantrupiano]

If they made shaolin monks 2, I would cream every where. On everyone.

[@Crazybark]

I like these game modes. I honestly think they could be done better but as separate modes I like them

[@tiymakoizau]

You just can't have a K-Bash episode without a good ol Golden Sun Bashing! Thanks again, I laughed pretty hard xD

[@HaBeFaStro]

I like your style. You combine intelligence and humor perfectly!

[@sk2178ter]

never seen any of your vids but I love this one

[@PandaBearNead]

Just followed yesterday and ALREADY hooked on all your content :D

[@RamboCreativity]

God I love this channel.

[@zinnydin2345]

i love the subspace emissary and the weird original characters

[@frankenstitch6057]

Came across you’re stuff a while ago with the rise of soul calibur video and have been watching since, keep up the great videos dude

[@justeddboi797]

Yes my fav youtuber right now uploads Me:liberials

[@LobosNinja]

what the fuck is the music at 1:16, it's killing me that I don't remember

[@Squashwhack]

I loved Armageddon’s campaign when I was a kid

[@OmegaMercenary]

In love with your channel dude, can’t wait for you to get the exposure you deserve

[@Gustavozxd13]

I actually enjoyed tekken 3's tekken force, and even the tekken 6 one, because they did what smash did, you just run around and kill everyone but with the controls from the actual main game, problem with the tekken 6 mode though is that they tried to make it all crazy with setpieces so the camera kind of goes everywhere and they couldn't figure out the controls very well sometimes (lock on being the worst of all) but i think those are interesting, mostly because i'm a big fan of beat em ups like SoR

[@princessjoanne4266]

HEY! Hey! Hey hey hey hey hey... Tekken does have a plot! And... it only took Tekken 7 for us to understand it

[@xdjrunner]

Tekken has the greatest story because it's not just a bunch of people waiting around to fight each year, they actually have lives.

[@BlueFlamer]

I actually love your channel honestly and I hope you get more subscribers bc you deserve it!! ❤️

[@Zephyr_Weiss]

You haven't talked about Mortal Kombat mythologies sub zero and Death by Degrees from tekken?

[@Nightwing1933]

On the Topic of Mortal Kombat, The Konquest mode in Deception is way better than armageddon, instead of a Linear 3D Beat em' up thing it's a Semi Open World Adventure RPG mode, with Side Quests to go on, NPCs to talk to, Multiple Realms to explore each with it's own feel and flavor, and more. The Only Downside is that it's part Adventure/story mode, part Tutorial so you have to learn almost every character's move set, combos included which can be difficult. Also Traversing the realms is kind of a pain

[@TheAngrySaxophone]

Congrats on the 69k subs(nice)

[@lukieygg8912]

You're amazing and deserve more views 😪

[@zerominiatures4676]

Fucking loved brawl story mode

[@roondar6141]

Don't forget that Mortal Kombat: Armageddon had a kart racing mode that was just diet Mario Kart

[@AnAverageGoblin]

it was actually a reskin of a star wars racing game.

[@ShoXwavee]

MK Armageddon was great. And there's nothing wrong about using your favourite character in some good old beat em up levels

[@rodrigomarcondes5857]

at first i thought you were just another youtube weeaboo gamer who relies on screaming, memes and zany editing, but you actually write pretty good jokes, shows interesting info and makes understandable points. I'm subscribed

[@YoungsterJoey1]

How is this channel this small with such quality videos? Definitely gained a subscriber. Love me some good ass fighting games and good ole FGC

[@R4ULTR]

Yo! I just found out about your channel I am absolutely amazed about the quality of your videos man. You deserve so many more subscribers, so here's one! Keep up the good work

[@jier9904]

no mention of MK: Shaolin Monks? I finished the adventure mode with my friend, the coop is a blast!

[@titovalles4035]

I lost it at the random shade thrown at golden sun in the middle of this XD

[@XerxesTexasToast]

"There just weren't enough ladders" is so fucking funny to me, someone who made a level called Ladderland in Brawl's level creator when I was a tween. It was exactly what you think it was.

[@raymanbb8274]

I love Urban reign which is like Ike if Tekken had smash controls where there's only an attack,grab, Dodge and run button. It can be also describe as a beat em up mix with a 3d 1v1 like Tekken

[@blackmanwithcomputer]

So we're just gonna ignore Shaolin Monks, and how awesome it was?

[@Bertakio]

i want a shaolin monks port for pc

[@harryoneill7679]

I feel like this is definately a fair critique but the way I look at it is there all spose to be simple mini games anyways (Aside from Soul Calibur) but sick vid man

[@ardaagaik9136]

Is this Jeff's alt account? (space hamster) they sound RIDICULOUSLY alike

[@KBash]

how dare you insinuate my voice is anywhere near that high

[@fawkes6352]

I liked Subspace as a kid, but nowadays I agree with the "empty maps and samey enemies" points people bring against it. I think that's why I like World of Light better - it's not trying to be an "adventure mode", its Smash gameplay instead taking the form of themed event matches, so when you play WoL it actually feels like Smash.

[@tico9951]

I loved subspace, i played the entire thing with my bro

[@terrien8232]

You need more publicity dude

[@IHeliosI]

I love how he says boy-howdy like Sid from Hey Arnold

[@furballo1992]

Post more often you ain't no johntron lol. Your both great keep it up.

[@KBash]

I would if I didn't have so much stuff killing my time -_-"""

[@siunmadness5009]

I found this way funnier than I should've😂

[@Mepholar]

Smash Bros Subspace Emissary DID show the stage creator. And that franchise still wants to push the party game aspect as much as, if not more than, the pure fighting game aspect.

[@Yoh23]

Urban reign was a good tekken fighter story game, really straightforward plot

[@vagabond4113]

Tekken 6 Story mode was pretty fun. Difficult at times but was better than I thought it would be. The format should make a return in T8

[@maddcruiser8874]

Idc what anyone says but Mortal Kombat Armageddon is my favorite MK game and it has alot to do with konquest and taven and that GODLIKE intro and create a character mini games over 60 freaking characters collectables unlockables ect it's one of my favorite games of all time

[@OtaniNoAsagi]

Honestly I'd buy a well made and fleshed out SoulCalibur RPG.

[@MagGunDO17]

While i do not agree that subspace emissary was boring, i accept the difference in our opinions. Never knew Soulcalibur Legends was a thing...

[@querydelacroix2919]

8:25 - Sakurai: "This whole video doesn't apply, because Smash Bros is *not* a fighting game!"

[@killjoysthename]

Ahh, MK Armageddon Konquest mode had dynamic bug squishing effects. Truly revolutionary

[@peliparado94]

MK Armaggeddon is an underrated masterpiece

[@kennethforman5265]

I subscribed, mainly cause you sound like an angry Max from the Goofy Movie. That's what's up.

[@furyberserk]

So smash is bad because it plays the same? Was it on here cause you like melee's adventure mode?

[@PapiDooke]

What about SHAOLIN MONKS

[@dannyhinrichs6876]

the Subspace Emissary was RAD

[@aaronholmes-black6621]

That was fun. Subbed

[@hotepanthony3910]

"the creative integrity of mortal Kombat" XD

[@devilmaycryunlimited]

Just like golden sun? KBash do you know of a golden sun fighting game in the pipeline? Hope it keeps its amazing writing and storytelling

[@KBash]

HahahahH

[@PunkDisciple23]

Inside sources at Nintendo and Camelot claim Felix and Jenna will be S-tier on launch

[@Lagking46]

Cool. This made my day.

[@ElMariposo1]

You could've used Death by Degrees as another example.

[@llamaking9835]

we don't talk about that game.

[@codyxvasco592]

How to capture a new viewers attention in 4 seconds.

[@Flipindabird23]

You're such a hidden gem on KZbin. I'm actually upset with myself for just finding you today. Oh well; I guess I'll just binge all of the videos you've made that are relevant to me in one night. What's my nephews name again?

[@shinigami9851]

7:52 actually trying to make the camera work is harder than it seems which applies to basically every game that has a camera that moves.

[@Regulo1d]

That ending is golden