Figuring Out Whose The NBA CLUTCH GOAT

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[@sillyweebanimeisforkids3413]

You can't have the Max 'fate of the universe on the line' quote without including... GIVE ME IGUADOLA

[@Barca.Ball10]

jimmyhighroller ran so this man could get in a car and drive editing in the video is insane

[@chrisptophu]

nah facts😂

[@BigMike566]

If only he uploaded more tho

[@yeloe4479]

​@@BigMike566nah if bro uploaded more the vid wouldnt be as high quality

[@cybercrasherstv]

In this analogy, you gotta factor that Jon Bois walked for jxmy to run away from muggers, and then this guy drove Mach ten with legos

[@TellenJones]

His video left out many cases when Lebron should have taken the clutch shots but deferred them. When you don't take the shots, they would never become a miss. But if it's a shot he should have taken but didn't, that's basically a miss.

[@Jestylor6]

I would rather have Kobe Bryant take a triple team shot for a buzzer beater than have Luke Walton do anything...

[@sethrobinson9291]

😂

[@viznshock4361]

Thinking with your heart over head

[@Jestylor6]

@@viznshock4361 It's both but you can look at it that way...

[@tahja]

Either way that shot not going in 😭

[@Jestylor6]

@@tahja Kobe could make it Luke Walton probably won't even shoot it...

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

4Q playoff career Kobe: 5.3 PPG/ 0.8 RPG / 0.7 APG 34% FG 30% 3PT LeBron: 6.7 PPG / 2.7 RPG / 1.8 APG 47% FG 27% 3PT Edit: Bsolz moving the goal posts back and forth on what clutch is. That’s the summary of his reaction

[@randomperson2540]

What's kobes stats at the start of 2000. I don't really count the Years before cause he wasn't Kobe yet he wasn't in his prime

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

@@randomperson2540 so when do you think we should decide to start on LeBrons prime? Cause LeBron carried a mid roster to 66 wins and a Finals appearance at just 24 years old. And I’m not sure, I don’t have the time to filter it out and figure it out. I just know that’s his entire playoff career in 4Q.

[@Poseforkemp]

@@randomperson2540lol Kobe was an allstar before that

[@TigerHoods23]

@@PHXNKVHXLICstop with the revisionist history. You can’t be a 60+ win team with mediocre teammates

[@christopherd.3291]

@@randomperson2540Nah count everything including those shots in 1999 against Utah Year 3, just like Lebron in 06 against the Wizards and Pistons. Picking and choosing which years to count Kobe as clutch, when the same thing could be applied to Lebron. Lebron in 2013 was not the same player he was in 2007 at 21/22. Count everything or be bias.

[@AC2k14GOD]

Kobe’s moment just shines so much more because he’s the best player on the biggest team in the NBA and he done the game winners too on national tv

[@DeadwaveCarrier-oc1wo]

He got LEGOs in his basketball video essays? Nah, all y'all are slacking. Rusty, Jxmy, Synthetic, Andy? Step ya game up.

[@nicenice7226]

jxmy isnt slacking in the slightest the others fair

[@EAster33]

15:40 your confusing clutch time with clutch moments or games. he is clearly defining what clutch time is and ur moving the goalpost

[@dexter_johnson]

Exactly. The stopping, complaining and adjusting is a bit much. Just because a guy falls down, he just does. Did the formula change for a specific player? No. The numbers, as they say, don't lie.

[@TheMissiIe]

Clutch moments are also full games. Being down 0-2 means game 3 is a "win or go home" game. Making the whole 48 minutes clutch time

[@hybui123]

By that standard, Lebron would arguably be the most clutch player in NBA history Down 3-1 against the 73-9 Warriors and coming back to win the NBA Finals in enemy territory and leading both teams in scoring, rebounding, assists, steals and blocks.

[@TheMissiIe]

​@@hybui123 then you must think Jokic is the most clutch ever because he completed TWO 1-3 comebacks in a single post season. Also since competition is brought up, didn't GSW have a bunch of outs for game 5? Making the Cavs the favourites in game 5?

[@shepardice3775]

​​@@TheMissiIeComing back 3-1 down against what was looking like the greatest team of all time in the finals is different from coming back 3-1 against the Jazz and the Clippers in round 1 and 2. Also, Murray was clearly the best player against Utah. It is still a historic performance and Jokic and Murray are historically clutch players despite their small sample size.

[@hybui123]

@@TheMissiIe But is that not part of the game? Being suspensions and injuries are a part of the game. Also, being favorites in Game 5, a single game, determines what? 1 win? The Warriors had 4 chances to put the Cavs away but they didn’t, why? Bc of Lebron lol

[@yourdadisbent9900]

@@TheMissiIethis is the definition of moving the goalposts lmao. A - “Full games are clutch time” B - “Yes that’s why the 2016 3-1 comeback is so clutch” A - “no the Warriors were missing players lebron is not clutch shut up” ?????

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

ngl i've watched 100 plus bird games and this dude legit turned into thanos in the last 5 mins. He'd go 2-10 and then in the last five mins 4-6 all of a sudden

[@MrKurbek]

for real, shame the data was 1996 and forward

[@whosyaghaddy5382]

This is a huge this vs that debate volume vs consistency.

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

Defense can be clutch too

[@whosyaghaddy5382]

@@PHXNKVHXLIC certainly the untold Side of clutch.

[@user-kj6be8sf3v]

​@@PHXNKVHXLIC rarely!

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

@@user-kj6be8sf3v it’s not rare, it happens quite often but very rarely gets discussed.

[@jmgonzales7701]

What do we exactly count as clutch? Lets say a player its a well timed shot and the win but his percentage is not as good.

[@dizz1639]

At the end him referencing that we don’t take into account all that goes into being clutch and uneventfulness of it I think speaks to what solz was saying at the end. A third quarter where a player goes for 15 pts on ridiculous efficiency is the reason why a game will end on a blowout but by all factors that is what being clutch is showing up when your team needs it the most. Late game situations feel more fantastical so we cling to that more but whose to say that Curry’s second half of 33 in 2018 against the rockets isn’t more clutch than or is more than Lebrons game winner over the raptors in the same year. It’s something impossible to quantify but I’ve always said the two most clutch to me is Lebron and MJ ironically

[@jamesgarcia743]

A scoring run isn’t necessarily being clutch.

[@oscarsantiago7328]

You know the video good when you gotta click off the reaction and watch the original

[@relevancy1123]

24:58 basically says "I'll deny the statistics if my eye test tells me otherwise. This is a STATISTICALLY incorrect judgement. BUT, as an OPINION... I AGREE.

[@yourdadisbent9900]

idk i feel like solz is only criticising the data so much because it told him his biases and initial opinions were wrong e.g. Kobe being super clutch.

[@lincolnmckay555]

The reason LeBron James is more clutch than Kobe is because he knows how to pass the ball. Instead of trying to force a shot over 4 defenders let the guys who specializes in 3-point shooting shoot the wide open 3.

[@ignoblesavage5559]

I feel like only ppl who haven't watched a ton of Kobe's games say this. He delivered an awful lot of assists, drawing defense & kicking to Shaq or Pau for dunks, or to Horry/Fisher/Ariza/Artest for jumpers. There are entire videos made up of clutch plays by Kobe just in the playoffs (he was more likely to drive & kick if double/triple teamed than during regular season), including shots, assists, steals, even blocks (i.e. he had 4 blocks in game 7 vs. Portland in 2000, incl. 2 in clutch time...the last one as the buzzer sounded, vs. Sabonis. Point is, Kobe was NOT only about shooting in the clutch, even though it's what he was best known for.

[@actioninmyphannypack]

Thanks for putting me on onto Michael from the NBA coaching problem video. Mans is elite and is for sure raising the standard

[@UnoDinero95001]

Buddy was cooookinnn😭

[@thomascalderon598]

Idk why, the introduction to ray allen as jesus is so sick. 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@teal2913]

they should find a way to account for how open a player is during a clutch FG attempt. Is ray allen shooting mostly open shots while kobe is shooting mostly smothered shots? Would love to know

[@shepardice3775]

That's kind of the point of the video. He says maybe it's better to not take predictable, smothered shots in crunch time and try to look for the best play. That's kind of how Jokic and Murray look so good in the clutch (and LeBron ofc). They make good decisions down the stretch.

[@rapgodreloaded9259]

@@shepardice3775 Jamal Murray isn't Clutch. FG% in 2020s is different from the 00s. Efficiency isn't all equal.

[@jmgonzales7701]

​@@rapgodreloaded9259then how should it count

[@rapgodreloaded9259]

@@jmgonzales7701 Players have to be compared in their own era. Example: Steph's more efficient than Harden.

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@rapgodreloaded9259 ok i agree.

[@Kinsan27]

Anthony davis clutch highlights views: 📈📈📈

[@Barca.Ball10]

I watched the video before the editing the story telling everything is insane great video

[@chosen_mizzy]

17:26 I hear what Bsolz is sayin here Imagine warriors are down by nine in the third quarter in game five of the finals. Then, Curry goes on a tear scoring four 3-pointers back to back putting the warriors on a 12-0 run lead. In my perspective that’s clutch. But plays like that aren’t weighted in this model since they are only looking at what plays take place with the game on the line in the last couple of minutes. Curry may not be clutch in the last few possessions of a game but you can’t deny how dangerous he can be at ANY point in the game when he gets going.

[@fishnr]

also ray allen took open shots while curry at the end of the game gets doubled or tripled

[@stevenleblanc8146]

@chosen_mizzy That's kind of the problem. Pmuch anyone can reject an idea about clutch, or make some adjustments, add in criteria or scenarios. A clutch game can make sense viewed through a certain lens but the idea of an entire game being clutch completely obliterates what that term is supposed to describe in the first place. You can't be clutch in the 1st quarter. Nor second, nor third. It's the 4th quarter, that's it. The only question is how many minutes left in the 4th and how close does the score have to be. Otherwise the term clutch should just be put on a shelf and left to gather dust. It's meant to describe closing moments in close games. It would be nice if there was a strict, universal definition. It's impossible to anything that remotely resembles a rational conversation without it.

[@yung404error8]

Clutch is absolutely a vague term and thats great. It creates a lot more avenues of discourse around the topic

[@Jestylor6]

I think offensive & defensive responsibility is an important factor that truly wasn't calculable. People can say the play is passed to someone who's wide open but if they have the equivalent of a 78 overall and you are in the high 90s & you've seen them not take practice as seriously. Whatever the case may be that you know they don't play their role then it's no longer the correct decision...

[@johndougherty1]

I love your vids BSOLZ. Used to tune into the KZbin streams until you moved to twitch.

[@sterny7341]

The issue with the last chart with Ayton, Gobert, and Lopez so high on it is likely due to low sample size for those players. The game winning lob for ayton against the clippers comes to mind. That is one of the few plays ayton made is the clutch in the playoffs. As a result, his numbers will be skewed. A limit for playoff games played would probably help there.

[@jynx464]

Wasn’t there a 30 game minimum limit that he said

[@TTPprimo]

PEAK CONTENT

[@AX5Terminator]

25:40 and this is where numbers doesnt add up to actually winning. Let's say you had a hundred opportunities to get the ball with 7 seconds left on the clock and you took the shot every single time regardless of how difficult it was because you had bad shooters on your team. And lets say you make 44 of them. This means your team won 44 games and you had 44% FG% during clutch time. Now, let's say that instead of shooting it every single time, you decide to only shoot the ball when you're wide open or lightly gaurded. And when you are heavily gaurded, you kick it out to a teammate even if they were a bad shooter because you didn't want to be the one responsible for missing a difficult shot. In this scenario, let's say you shoot the ball half the time and kick it to a team mate half the time. You make 25 out of the 50 possible wide open or lightly guarded shots while kicking it off to a teammate that only shoots 15 out of 50. In this latter scenario, you would technically be more clutch shooting 50% (easy-med difficulty shots) while your teammates make 30% (med-difficult shots). But at the end of the day, who won more games? The player with the 44% FG% in the Clutch actually wins 10% more games than the dude that shoots 50% during clutch time.

[@Qyshawn]

....Solz yes the a skew toward 3s. 3s give you a higher effective field goal percentage.

[@MarkSinister]

3:05 You're confusing Clutch with playing a good game. If that game wen't to 112-112 and he made the last shot to end the game that would be clutch. If he's just blowing out the game, he's just having a good game. There's no pressure when the game is already blown out by half time.

[@ricanLegend2003]

Fire video

[@dblackATGB]

It's crazy Solz reacts to a video about being the most clutch then Dean Wade happens, I swear you're right about you cursing the Celtics.

[@eidenspysznyk5075]

Remember the ad stepback on the bubble? I remember seeing that and thinking why he aint do that more often?

[@Kamylamy]

darvin ham

[@theyouthfulinvestor]

I think part of my problem with B solz assertions in this video especially when it comes to the idea of clutch games is that there is no agreed upon definition for a "clutch game". Most of what he is talking about is narrative driven, which is fine but also almost impossible to track for anyone outside of the inner circle of basketball greats because frankly those are the only players who we care to create a narrative for. That means that we will automatically decrease our potential sample of data without strict rules already on what defines a clutch game. Basically it means that we cant have any role players in the study because they wouldn't have some storyline created where they have to show up or else. Most wouldn't say that K love had a huge performance in game 7 of 2016 despite him having the best plus minus of anyone because he only had nine points. Rather lebron and kyrie would likely get alot of credit for that game because they are stars that are worthy of a narrative in the media. In my opinion this would automatically invalidate any kind of study that could be done and hence bring us back to narrative ball which is the antithesis of what this video wants the viewer to do. Also I kind of found it funny that solz kept doubting the data because it didn't confirm his biases which was literally exactly what the video expected regular people to do and was actively trying to dissuade the viewers from doing.

[@yourdadisbent9900]

yea solz was being very dumb in this video. He wouldn’t have many criticisms of the data if it confirmed his biases and initial opinions

[@jmgonzales7701]

​@@yourdadisbent9900what is his bias

[@FennyWhopper]

I love this comment. Solz obviously loves the game and is very knowledgeable no doubt but associating clutch moments to the definition of clutch itself makes it more difficult to analyze. Without some sort of defining the term in this regard we can never have a debate on the clutchest player

[@dylanbach8578]

I agree with this take. It’s part of the glaring reason why there has been some conspiricizing about how analytics has ruined the game ~ so many people I have seen say stuff like Thinking Basketball has changed basketball discourse for the worse because his data has re-examined debates such as Bill Russell being better than Wilt, Garnett being an all time great, and correctly predicting the offensive impact of guys like Curry and Jokic as GOAT level. It’s especially difficult when a large majority of people don’t have exposure to higher levels of secondary education and therefore aren’t actively challenged to think of research, empirical data, and statistics past a 101 course in college. It’s part of the reason why there has been such a push to ignore experts in any academic field, because ‘we the people’ have immense dunning Kruger syndrome about what we do and don’t know.

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@dylanbach8578 analytics is great and all but u need context

[@lincolneppley7690]

“In a vacuum” yes bsolz the vacuum you are talking about is an extremely complex formula run by a computer which ultimately puts out statistical results, anyway you define clutch by your own standards is by definition a vacuum if you were concerned about this isn’t the video for you

[@lincolneppley7690]

Dude laid out the criteria before hand please stop bringing up what if he hit threes in the third instead of the fourth. If your concerned about it do your own research stop poking holes in the fucking work this guy put in, especially when your comment has absolutely nothing to do with what has been already laid out in front of us and explained.

[@lincolneppley7690]

Dude do you not understand how EFG works three pointers are worth more then two I have come to the realization this guy has absolutely no idea what he is talking about which is saying something with how much of this content he consumes on a regular basis

[@studentofthesaviors.o.s]

YESSSIRR my favorite player of all time Jesus shuttlesworth 💪🏾

[@grantjames7504]

I need him nxt to jj on espn yesterday

[@dexter_johnson]

I feel like if the player or players he expected to see in these stats were present, he'd have no arguments or interruptions.

[@ttkrystal8329]

Man talking bout where the playoffs when dame was playing with CJ McCollum and three fire hydrants. Big funeral.

[@AgnusDeiGloria]

its not his choice to only go back to 1996 for the data thats when the data started to be consistently tracked. knowing this guy he would most definitely go back to even the times of jerry west, wilt chamberlain, bill russell, etc but those stats dont exist in our current day. jordan still 3 peated in 1996-98 so while yes it doesnt accumulate the entirety of his career we still get some sample size from the latter years of his prime that still matter, but should not be without mention that its is only the last 3 years of his bulls tenure.

[@DontSleepOnTheNap]

He did consider usage rate tho

[@randomperson2540]

I love his channel, and he a great analyst while understanding the minds of fans. Sucks that his stats only start at 1996 so bird, and MJ arnt in the convo

[@LBEEZY_TV]

This guy gonna get kids addicted to analytics 😂

[@Mvfasalways]

He turned it into Kobe ve Lebron

[@jdsilvestri]

There is just so much to take into account it difficult for him to catch everything, but yea like elimination games in the playoffs are extremely clutch IMO, LeBron is nuts in elimination games, MJ is also amazing, and Kobe is pathetic. Shame we couldn't get more accurate MJ data in the vid they just didn't have all these tracking stats for half his career.

[@malrulesall9669]

True

[@MrSlashblade]

The whole point of the clutch is more around the idea that it’s a false narrative that everything regresses to the mean if your sample size is large enough. Even his data for Jordan would most likely just have him similar to LeBron and maybe just a tick under from the fact that his efficiency in real time. Even when we get to clutch playoffs stats and 4th quarter especially for Bron, we see very little deviation from his regular/playoff numbers. Even guys like Curry Wade and yes even Harden is that their averages are held back by sample size not held back by ability. Players rarely just deviate from a playstyle that they’ve been accustomed to their entire life on both ends and clutch situations aren’t as common as people think statistically. We are at the end of the day determining a players value based on what’s essentially 3-4 plays on both sides

[@jamesrush07]

Bruh I had those legos as a kid

[@LRHG0]

I mean anyone who wasn't a biased person knew this already

[@malrulesall9669]

LeBron is definitely clutch

[@joshuabile4657]

react to the sweatshop with thier nba draft takes.

[@gabrielresendiz2096]

Sometimes you gotta go with the eye test.

[@OVSKnicks]

The word you were looking for is “disservice” lol edit: Also, let the man cook! Kept pausing right as he was gunna clutch your ctritique lol

[@kennethjr2717]

When healthy AD top 5

[@SlanditTheBandit]

Fisher or Harper?

[@bobafett7499]

Bsolz talking about the chosen one you’ve clearly never watched nba storyteller

[@BSOLZ_]

Literally mentioned him in THIS video

[@bobafett7499]

Yea you right I just heard it

[@user-kj6be8sf3v]

Its not about games lil bro, an entire game can't be clutch!

[@paterstrother8242]

Amazing video but kinda not cookin shit lmaooo

[@jynx464]

Just cause your bias got proved wrong doesn’t mean he wasn’t cooking😂😂

[@paterstrother8242]

@@jynx464 you cant do a goat clutch video from 1996 onwards. More of a 2000s clutch goat.

[@jynx464]

@@paterstrother8242 but that’s not his fault tho,play by play wasn’t introduced before 1996 and he said this himself so you can’t discredit his video for not doing something impossible.

[@eternallyg]

@@jynx464yeah and also it’s basically impossible to gauge since it’s accumulative Lebron has soooo many more playoff games than anyone since 2005 that’s why when they chopped it to at least 30 playoff games the numbers were closer but even still out of people who have played at least 30 playoff games since 05 Lebron has played sooooo many more games than jokic or dame

[@Aleks-ot5ns]

What this ultimately shows is that team ball > hero ball and that for all the shit LBJ would get for making the right play and passing is absolute nonsence. This also shows a potentially WILD what if, what if Jordan or Kobe made the right play more often? Would have we seen a 4 peat, a 5 peat? As great as they ended up being did that killer instinct actually hinder them from even higher highs?

[@LeSteeler]

It’s clearly Bron

[@bboywolf]

choking is anti-clutch and that's going to affect your overall career clutch...

[@dickthehead1145]

A player being clutch implies they're like that all the time, Bron fans have actually gaslit people into disregarding the multiple choke jobs and quiting over his career. He quit and choked towards the beginning and he's done the same while at the Lakers. The couple times he's shown up shouldn't disregard the multiple times where he's gone ghost.

[@matthewford3778]

@@dickthehead1145delusional

[@jackjr715]

Damn why bsolz thought of Melo of not being clutch?

[@nicyee3701]

He has an all time horrible percentage when it comes to playoff shooting.

[@jmgonzales7701]

​@@nicyee3701tbh he alwayz had an horrible fg.

[@DunningKrugerJnr]

Pffft…Luka is the present and future GOAT in every category 😉

[@levcharsw6074]

Bsloz i agree but lemme post a better argument everyone knows your take the last shot what makes u dangerous is that your still avg in efg% with everyone knowing that why lebron kobe and mj was so feared because u know whats gonna happen if its a close game and u dont what one person do what you they do best

[@jamescastro2623]

Dame was third in winning games in the clutch, not too much on Dame Chipmunk Manee

[@Bignuts13]

17:59 There’s no such thing as a clutch 3rd quarter shot my guy.

[@MilesFetter]

Kobe is the clutchest. People literally say kobe before a big shot during street ball or when they're with their friends. He is the symbol for clutch. Him and dame time

[@matthewford3778]

The media tricked you. You are being a sheep. Kobe was below average

[@MrGizzy84]

woah, dont disrespect melo like that... he for sure should be in the top for clutch players i need stats

[@odoaiden3525]

Carmelo? he was afraid of winning a playoff game defiantly not ckutch

[@MrGizzy84]

@odoaiden3525 its a team sport my guy no one wins alone now of you go look at stats or rewatch games you will for sure see his game winning shot percentage it elite...stop running with narratives without knowing facts

[@ngu_grindingyt9991]

Aye statistics don’t care about feelings ayton statistically is more clutch

[@sufyaankhan4686]

butler top 5?????!!!??

[@Schiltzenberger]

Analytics is just a way people can move the goal posts to fit their narrative. Some will have last 1min with the scores + or - 5.... player A is better than player B However in the last 2mins with the scores + or - 5.... player B is better than player A You can chop and change the parameters to make a bunch of different players top of the list.

[@admiralaokiji7889]

sure but with enough volume and different metrics, patterns start to form which can show you a story. Somethings are just fact like lebron being one of the most clutch players ever.

[@Schiltzenberger]

@@admiralaokiji7889"LeBron being one of the most clutch players ever" ... wow! He is scared of shooting free throws on clutch situations.... he is one the least clutch players ever, he is pathetic in clutch situations.

[@Kosithegod]

Could you not say the same thing about narratives? You dont even need parameters you can just say whatever you want. At least you can question stats, you cant question a feeling.

[@xxxmamba9228]

Curry clutch hmm

[@Vihloah]

Lol this vid just made me not wanna talk stats ever again 💀 let me just watch the games

[@dadillonful]

-Lebron hater

[@Vihloah]

@@dadillonful never a hater of my glorious king but good try dillon

[@philipawrencher]

Curry isn’t a closer

[@coreyreese9561]

Mj was 49%

[@trippcg3703]

Rusty Buckets is the greatest autistic basketball sommelier of all time

[@dickthehead1145]

Definitely not I've seen plenty of rusty bad takes

[@cdiorbans]

Curry not clutch LMAO

[@DemonKing-oi4jd]

Bro how are you doubting his clutch^2 formula? This whole video doesn't even address the formula in the first place. Shits just random points on a graph 😂

[@bones3142]

I believe part of the reason why he started at 1996 is because there wasn’t the data at that point to support what he wants to say. But idk

[@theyouthfulinvestor]

Nope, thats when play by play tracking data starts so thats the only logical jumping off point for a study that requires this amount of data. It would be near impossible to use data pre 1996 especially for any play that isnt specifically a made basket

[@Ugz-z]

Insane cope

[@shepardice3775]

​@@theyouthfulinvestorCope? It's literally just a tracking data problem 😭 if you go look for MJ's tracking stats anywhere you'll see it only starts in 1996-1997

[@ncg25out]

I’m not sure who the clutch GOAT is , but Kobe is not in the conversation. RIP he had an incredible work ethic , but he couldn’t shoot as evidenced by his 45 % lifetime shooting, that’s trash.

[@nii22b93]

The guy is presented multiple definitions of clutch and Lebron was consistently average and/or above average in all of them. He was the only player who had that. At some point we all have to agree Lebron is really that clutch.

[@jmgonzales7701]

He is clutch but he also is a choker

[@jynx464]

@@jmgonzales7701he choked once bro compared to how much times he’s been clutch

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@jynx464 i dont think 4-6 is clutch

[@jynx464]

@@jmgonzales7701 it is when your only the favoured team twice in your career

[@odoaiden3525]

@@jmgonzales7701so losing in the finals is worse than losing first round

[@Sameer_sd_15]

Ngl production was crazy fair enuf, but bro was on to a whole lotta nothing lets be honest.

[@jynx464]

Just because his video proved your wrong doesn’t mean it meant nothing

[@Sameer_sd_15]

@@jynx464 no but fr bro like, what's the conclusion. Being clutch is too hard to quantify. And also it means different things to everyone I feel, and this vid didn't come with anything that made sense

[@jynx464]

@@Sameer_sd_15 your right because there are different definitions of clutch however he used many different metrics and he himself said this doesn’t take into account offensive responsibility however he used a wide range of metrics so his video is very qualified in terms of finding clutch players.

[@Sameer_sd_15]

@@jynx464 but then we all know that kobes clutch bro, like bsolz said like being clutch can be for one full game like LeBron vs Celtics game 6

[@MisterShumShum]

but he isn't speaking clutch then. This is just a better win share/plus minus stat where it calcs every action you do contribution to a win or a loss where clutch is specifically those actions that exceed a threshold

[@Chillzchill]

Bsolz, why are you so hung up on the fact that Steph isn’t as clutch as some like to think he is. While being the best shooter ever, Steph is the last person I want shooting a 3 pointer in the last seconds of a playoff game. And his stats support that…

[@Ebonyleopard]

No offense, but everything you said as a rebuttal was all based on "feelings" and not a single point of hard data, which seemed to be the video's point. The actual data aka math doesn't surprisingly match people's FEELINGS on the subject matter. Also, saying you can only count the stuff you've personally seen is like saying a baby doesn't believe anything ever existed in the world until the moment they cognitively began recognizing and storing memories they can recall. Everything else is theoretical.

[@DemonKing-oi4jd]

Hey what's the math behind this Stat? Can't find it anywhere on his original video. Like he says Giannis block is clutch, but only talking about efg%. Anthony Davis king of clutch right?

[@candypop6441]

more proof that kobe trash. Lebron on top fr.

[@jmgonzales7701]

Jordan Lebron Kobe

[@joshuarodriguez6621]

i’m taking kobe with the last shot 12 times outta 10 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@odoaiden3525]

Last shot maybe but not last play I want a guy that gives me the highest precent shot possible and that’s not him

[@joshuarodriguez6621]

@@odoaiden3525 how is what you said make any sense? 😭 doesn’t the one who takes the last shot have the last play? lol

[@odoaiden3525]

@@joshuarodriguez6621 no for the last play I would want someone that might pass it up if he’s double teamed

[@rapgodreloaded9259]

Kobe's the most clutch player of all time.

[@fearlesstay]

nah

[@PHXNKVHXLIC]

34% FG percentage in the 4th quarter of his playoff career is clutch to you? 😂

[@S3verusMyG]

@@PHXNKVHXLIC had the most offensive responsibility in league history... Who he gonna pass too when Shaq and Pau werent there? Kobe will take that shot and no one can argue otherwise, if KD is going to praise him for his clutch-gene then I know some bum on the internet isnt to be taken serious.

[@shepardice3775]

​@@S3verusMyGIdk LeBron and MJ found a way to make it work. I've seen Jokic and Murray have damn near perfect late game execution the last few years in the playoffs by knowing when to pass and when to shoot

[@user-zi3jq2mv9p]

Stop