Film Theory: Did Sonic WASTE Our Time? (Sonic Movie 2020)

[@D3600-i6n]

I feel like Sonic just stayed with Donutlord because at heart, he’s a kid. He doesn’t want to be alone. And really, he doesn’t want to leave Earth. So he’s purposefully dragging his feet on leaving and spending as much time as possible trying to stay here. And he stays in the car with him because this is person he feels closest with, even at the beginning of the movie, this is his dad in his mind.

[@mopnem]

This is how I took it...only way for it to make sense

[@littlediamond4552]

You have brought me back to why I love thulis movie. Its a story about sonic's character, his growth, and finding his place in the world.

[@willwatzke8860]

I must have Alzheimer’s because I don’t remember asking

[@stateofhibernation]

Thank you! I don't see why so many people don't get that? He's been alone for so long and loves earth, he wanted to spend time and travel with the donut lord.

[@DirectorsChoice]

He doesn't want to go, he needs a family like Dory from Find Nemo..."Just keep running, just keep running..."

[@lolziz]

15:54 "That manipulative little hedgehog, Seems like speed isn't his ONLY super ability" Should be one of the villan's lines for the sequel.

[@technical_difficulties.mp4]

( like lolziz comment if you agree )We need this to be a thing in the movie sequel.

[@temmie248]

Introducing line to the antagonist, sanic.

[@Zt-jpeg]

Honestly I laughed And it does

[@rei1sba315]

lolziz sadly there wont be a sequel due to the studio basically bankrupting

[@soip6710]

@@rei1sba315 Sony? Sony isn't that far gone yet. At least I hope not, my girlfriend works under them :/

[@ArloLinn]

Film theory: Sonic didn’t want to run for a day straight in case he injured his knee, he’s being a bit more cautious after seeing your last video

[@Alex26108]

Spooky Filmz Ent. WTF???

[@IrvingIV]

@@YoungAlienBoy Everybody spam report them, they are view baiting with bots, people are talking about it in the linked video if you don't believe me.

[@purplefirekitty1]

I love this

[@IrvingIV]

@@Logan-fb7sy Yes, and I have seen identical comments within threads of this comment section repeatedly. Theoretically they could have done it by hand, but the sheer volume of dislikes is not likely due to human effort alone.

[@Logan-fb7sy]

bruh

[@turtle1658]

Youv'e gotta still consider in the movieverse he is still a kid, he feels a need for a parental figure like tom (donut lord) He also does not want to leave earth so he clings to the last times he has there, and for once does not gotta go fast

[@MelodicQuest]

Here's a good question: Is the sequel gonna be "Sonic 2" or "Sonic & Tails"

[@pidgebird]

Sonic 2 and Tails

[@mooses1027]

WOAH THATS DEEP

[@linkolek]

Sonic... Tails twoo.

[@Connor_merkle]

Nice

[@martianmanreacts9005]

Yes...

[@TheNewsDepot]

When running as fast as he does, how much calories is he burning? How often would he need to stop and eat running every street in the US? Maybe riding in the car is faster over all because he doesn't have to stop every hour and nap for three hours after eating 10k calories of food.

[@amethyst_dawn]

Plus he's only ever shown to run at top speeds for what in real time would be about 2 minutes max, so we don't know how long he can keep up the sonic speeds.

[@celinnejansson5679]

I was thinking about that too

[@thestevens580]

He said it took seven hours. He has more than twice that time to beat the car bc of how long it takes for the car to get there. He still has soooo much time

[@trunorth8809]

I would love a theory like that

[@Jpeg.g]

This would be burried as a comment so tell matpatvthat its NEV-A-DA NOT NEV-OD-A

[@HittingBandy]

Jim Carrey: watches Game Theory Also him in the Sonic movie: I'm gonna do what's called a gamer move, a pro gamer move

[@eken1725]

Pro gamer.

[@UltimatePerfection]

*Jim Carrey.

[@HittingBandy]

@@UltimatePerfection oops tnx

[@UltimatePerfection]

@@HittingBandy You're welcome 😀.

[@faizahmohammedaruwa]

555th like 😎

[@ladygrim7658]

As I stated before I will again. You and your crew will always be number 1 in the movie business. No matter what people say about your theorist, you have always proved that the movie and television biz pay attention to what y'all produce. So keep up the great work you all. I'm on a personal mission to see all videos on all 4 of your channels by the end of the year.

[@zer0378]

Movie: Does a scene to have more character develoment Mat: *YOU WERENT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT*

[@snowybreeze9529]

Eljo Kuka I remember watching sonic x and sonic says to travel the whole world it will take a day but this video that gives an accurate answer than the show did

[@navystoneswampattackcrocod6539]

@@snowybreeze9529 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@danielcurtis8895]

Sonic 'could' have found his rings on his own but: 1. Everyone tends to think and do irrational things when they are scared. This is probably magnified because Sonic has no one. 2. He wanted to make a friend and took this chance to road trip with Donut Lord to do just that. 3. He wasn't in full control of all of his powers. In fact, he just learned to Time Stop and Spin Attack from the film. 4. This Sonic isn't the seasoned hero from the games, and this is his origin story.

[@gurimisenpai2358]

I think bowling ball hedgehog was the only thing he'd learned.

[@diegobrando3409]

I thought those scenes were just sonics super fast reaction time and him moving in accordance to that speed. Never knew it was him just stopping time.

[@Amundo.]

👏👏👏

[@TalkingBook72]

Did everyone just forget about the scene where he explains that he doesn't know how to get there? That's literally all it is. There's no big theory behind it

[@sonicjamal230]

@@diegobrando3409 im pretty sure you're right about that. sonic obviously doesn't literally have time powers but people just simplify it to stopping time even though it's just the super fast reaction time.

[@partyjams]

Sonic: wants to spend time with someone he cares about before having to leave his home forever MattPat: Yet another video game character being a manipulative monster

[@cometaHavoc]

No words for this

[@noriakikakyoin5503]

@@YoungAlienBoy bro fucking stop

[@coreythepeanut]

@@YoungAlienBoy No, you have a bad ad campaign.

[@kenwalkensdeadchannelcanal2886]

@@YoungAlienBoy what the, WHAT IS YOUR MEANING? WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!

[@NotASpyReally]

lol exactly

[@xNSRBagley]

Hey matpat I doubt to see this comment but did you know the sign on the board (1981) is a reference to when sega first bought the rights to frogger 10 years before Sonic first came out

[@pepethegamer3000]

Wow really? That’s pretty cool

[@SteveMutt]

Alternative Theory: Sonic wanted a road trip. The fish on his head would have dropped off if he hadn’t kept it there or put it there so, quite plausible

[@AJsMillions]

From our puny view of physics, this is accurate to a degree.

[@lettu6199]

It may have stayed their. With the speed he was going his head could’ve kept it up their

[@Lambda_Ovine]

There are plenty of things that I can do myself and I decide not to because I don't feel like it, so yeah.

[@mishabfox7589]

Sonic has Quills like a porcupine the Fish was impaled like velcro and was unable to fall off on its own

[@nekodragneel2260]

thank you for this comment I honestly just think that sonic wanted to go on a road trip with someone he liked so he can be part of a family considering his personality and how lonely he was

[@mixedmercury]

If Tom just added in "and go south when you get to the coast" then the entire movie would've been over. The entire plot only happens because he's horrible at giving directions.

[@coco_puffyz1919]

Ok

[@extremealier4143]

@@coco_puffyz1919 no

[@cyb3rmilk686]

@@extremealier4143 what

[@gachachris3805]

You’re right tho

[@extremealier4143]

@@cyb3rmilk686 no u

[@JimboAverage]

Paramount: “Write that down.” *”Write that down!!”*

[@mobbcentral4675]

Dipper: oh my gosh mable do you see this

[@ogfazcoin]

Mobb Central HA

[@DirectorsChoice]

"Write that down!!!"

[@dr.stoner7341]

hey at least they're listening(supposedly).

[@patogirlie]

@Spooky Filmz Ent. That’s just bad writing right there

[@pinto7214]

1:16 him saying it never ends. It’s like a little child for zero reason.

[@707tinman707]

*Counter Theory:* What if Sonic knows he could get to San Francisco really fast but chose not to because he didnt want to be lonely anymore, hence traveling with Tom.

[@milkymurderer907]

Zanarkand this is true though( your counter theory)

[@Mechan1calMag1c1an]

This is what I believe to be true, though Matpat's theory isn't incorrect in my opinion. I think it comes down to the fact that in this movie, Sonic is much more of a kid and as such might have simply not been confident enough to explore such a distant place on his own. Montana is his home, and he hasn't really left it from what we're shown. So going to some unknown place far away would not only be scary, but he would also have to find a way back home (if we're assuming he's using his rings only in emergencies and doesn't use the rings to get back to Montana). While he probably knows that he's faster than Tom's truck, he sees this as an opportunity to fill the empty place in his heart. He's basically getting the father he never had AND that father is making sure that he gets to San Fran and back safely. Thank you for listening to my insane ramblings.

[@samfleming4527]

Y’all it’s a good theory but not as good as this endless pasta bowl from Olive Garden

[@Plague_and_class]

That is the best counter theory ever

[@Raccoooooooooon]

Also didnt sonic get tranquilized

[@RiHikaru]

2:06 "Fanservice" Shows Rouge PervPat is back guys!

[@itsPlasma06]

**flashback to the boob episode**

[@Criselyon]

Luigis fruit

[@RiHikaru]

@@itsPlasma06 "To the 10 females who watch this show... (Inculding my mother) I apologize for what you're about to see."

[@itsPlasma06]

@@RiHikaru **cue the can-can with a bunch of boob nicknames** MatPat a couple years later: I regret everything

[@vegetablackpotato4700]

@@YoungAlienBoy wigga you had the vid in your channel

[@kirkir3029]

As someone who lives litterally 30min away from Deer Lodge, MT I am SUPER excited that my (almost) little town is being talked about!. ALSO, the prison is super cool and not used anymore, it's just there as a tourist attraction, and right next door is a cool car museum that is honestly fun to visit even if cars aren't your thing. ALSO, ALSO there used the be the most amazing diner there that had the BEST tomatoe soup but they closed sadly a couple years ago. Anywho, I was just super excited to hear about my little town here!

[@chimkinmayonaise9459]

Mmmm tomatoe soup

[@Heidi19ck22]

80 year old man with foot fetish reading this comment why the heck I’ve never seen this before do they serve it on feet or is it feet served with soup I’m down either way

[@soup-flavored-soup6613]

Tama toe soup, may I ask what kind of animal is a tama *toma

[@lewanuva8158]

Small towns are the best! They are always so unique and interesting.

[@ethribin4188]

My headcannon why Sonic wanted John to bring him was because he was scared and uncertain. And we know Sonic isnt a thinker. So he bropably didnt think about just going all imperial measuring by simply running. So in his paniced, cornered and scared state he just asked John to bring him there, not realizing he could have done it himself and alone.

[@johnblack5616]

Ethribin his name is Tom, but his dentist calls him Tim. But it’s gone on so long that it’d be weird to correct it now.

[@chimkinmayonaise9459]

His name be Tom

[@ORIONVIIXI]

his name is donut lord get it right

[@kiaranecessary7972]

I think when Sonic says he "can't do" it alone, he means emotionally more so than physically. He can't wander around the country reaching dead ends a thousand times in a row. He's not used to failure.

[@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587]

true

[@DirectorsChoice]

You're right, he doesn't know what failure feels like!

[@purpledragon1945]

Plus that town is the only comforting place he has anymore, might not be able to find his way back if he goes in the wrong direction

[@prof.reithe4053]

I just immediately figured, based on his literal interpretation of "Go West" despite obviously knowing what roads are, that he KNEW he COULD, but that essentially, it was about him wanting a friend in what was essentially a new place. He just didn't want to be alone.

[@nlechoppa3687]

Kiara Necessary kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKCsoGtpqsehjJY

[@KittAnimations]

But if Sonic did just run Yes: he would get there faster BUT he be would risk getting caught faster too

[@rierinrinny]

So tru

[@lucasolsson1538]

fair point and he'd probably cause more blackouts messing things up

[@tourmelion9221]

And also loneliness and companionship

[@tourmelion9221]

Also he would go back on roads he could be running in circles for hours

[@sheepbow909]

At least until the police caught him

[@latreiamyers9011]

Fun fact when it took 4 seconds for sonic to get to the ocean it means it took him 2 seconds to get to the ocean and 2 seconds to get back to

[@ibrothebro6864]

This man went through a lot of dedication and time just to prove that a movie about an alien hedgehog who runs faster than the speed of light doesnt make sense........ This man is a legend.

[@speedguy8637]

Not really. Every video he makes it about calling Sonic slow. And it’s dumb cuz none of it is canon proof of anything.

[@donnagormann9653]

Yes...

[@upseguest]

he is not alien

[@minnightxx__8708]

I agree

[@shaylynnlegault5757]

I love your videos they're the best

[@tputma108]

Question: how long does it take for Sonic to slow down? Since he “ran into” the Pacific Ocean.

[@juliab7934]

Tputma 10 He can stop instantly I think, he was probably just going so fast he was in the ocean before he knew what was happening

[@tputma108]

Cool thanks!

[@karlhyetravelerofworlds]

Until he reaches land

[@casserolesoup969]

Tputma 10 also, going as fast as he is, can he not run on water for at least a little bit?

[@casserolesoup969]

Tora Fuliar I love the word “chuckle”

[@rufioh]

but it's not like he will go over every road exactly once. This is the traveling salesman problem, but on a scale that's pretty incalculable

[@ratgr]

Yeah and does he never rest? how much can he run before needing rest, also route mapping gets exponential over intersections when you don't have a clue of your destination so no, even using only the biggest interstate roads I simulated an average of ~5 days using the clue of west using southwest it takes ~1.1 days

[@ZachariahMBaird]

But he's also probably going to get to San Francisco before going to every single other road in the world. So it balances out.

[@ratgr]

@@ZachariahMBaird No it doesn't balance, I simulated the travel (see my comment)

[@rosure7]

But that's assuming his speed is the lowest possible... In reality he's just too fast... And sonic spends most of his time running we don't know how much he needs to rest. We would be assuming here...

[@alexanderbrambila3812]

It’s also unlikely that he’ll travel on every single road

[@Inacive]

Well now you have never had the total meaning you never have to buy food again

[@lifeisok7726]

The problem is, sonic would be caught if he ran. He needed the truck so he wouldn’t be seen on raders, by pedestrians, ect. AND dont say he didnt know. The best way to trick your enemy’s, is to trick your friends.

[@hc855]

Also the fact that sonic might off just wanted to spend time with the only person he saw as a friend.

[@robojoe2414]

but people aren't going to see something travelling at 990000mph

[@thecorn1689]

@@robojoe2414 they are going to see the trail

[@herbiji070]

@@robojoe2414 they have radars and sattelites that search the power when he runs

[@modelgio360]

Xd he just state that he can, and beside Sonic is not that intelligent

[@truedemoknight6784]

It's very likely that Sonic would double back on himself while running. I doubt that he can remember the names of millions of streets. And running literal millions of miles is probably fairly exhausting. I wouldn't want to do that even if I were supersonic.

[@thestevens580]

He said it took seven hours. He has more than twice that time to beat the car bc of how long it takes for the car to get there. He still has soooo much time

[@cmcphotography1]

Its not millions of miles. Its just a few hundred thousand. Sonic runs the speed of light

[@Vubbss]

11:50

[@EpicMozamba]

Also, he is distracted easily like when he went to the biker bar. That factor may add a lot more hours being wasted

[@edirangel3864]

TheOneTrueDemoknight,wow it took you four seconds to right all that

[@Dire_Pants]

Tom also could've just told him "Go west, turn left at the ocean, follow it south".

[@donutchan8114]

Or like, make it to the coast and run along it until you make it to San Francisco. But plot, apparently.

[@Purrfect_Werecat]

Literally this

[@shawnpitman876]

@@donutchan8114 "Ah, the planet sized plot hole. We didn't think you'd notice that...." Think about it too, he would have had 0% chance of failing to find it fast with those directions. They would put him right in front of the golden gate bridge, which he would recognize.

[@therealalexw6108]

My mum gives more instructions than that to find the nachos

[@kaiju_boi9]

Yea, Matpat posted his final video today. Hopefully he makes a cameo in Sonic 3

[@eManMayhem]

Matpat: looks at every road My first thought: if he looked at Idaho roads, then he looked at my house!

[@evanc6508]

Looked at mine in Oregon

[@popularparzy2116]

@@YoungAlienBoy Why u so annoying?

[@LiamLimeLarm]

@@YoungAlienBoy That's your own video, this is just a scheme to get more views and watch time.

[@Kiri_-so3ei]

I also live in Idaho

[@ichigoisthegoat]

@@YoungAlienBoy u cant even spell

[@xiaoti8035]

Counter theory: sonic doesn’t know how big the world is, So he is better of choosing a way that Will bring him to the right destination, than to guess Edit: there is also the fact that he only read comicbooks and watched certain sports, he doesn't know this planet or should say this dimension. For all he knows the world is infinite and the city he is looking for is 6 planets away. From what we see in the beginning of the movie he doesn't leave the U. S.

[@chiot888]

But logistically he ran 1,100 miles in 4 seconds from Montana to the coast, the edge of our country, and back.. on a whim. he could easily run across the us to see how big it is, and come back in half a minute.

[@xiaoti8035]

@@chiot888 yeah, but he might think that the us is one small island and that the city he is looking for is on a completely different island very far away. Ps if he moves too fast everything becomes dark and he won't see anything, because light can't keep up. After a while his view of the world will become distorted.

[@xiaoti8035]

@@chiot888 I get what you and matt are saying, but he doesn't know this world or even this dimension. The only information he has are from comicbooks and sportshows. He has no idea how big the planet is and I don't he even knows that world is round

[@xiaoti8035]

MR.Twentysix wait didn’t he come from a different dimension?

[@josephpinder5150]

Yeah he may not know the dimensions but that doesn't change the size of eat Ps:sonic knows that San Francisco is on earth because he used the rings to go to earth not a solar system

[@Aquagamer224]

And fanservice.... Shows picture of Rouge “Yeah that seems about right”

[@poissonmulti-taches2742]

For fanservice it should be shadow .

[@samfleming4527]

poisson multi-taches I don’t think you get what he’s referring to

[@poissonmulti-taches2742]

@@samfleming4527 Yes I get it 🍆 🍑 but rouge is more adult jokes than s. fanservice .

[@core3gamegd587]

Notification squad!

[@samfleming4527]

poisson multi-taches ok true

[@Karlz1212]

My guess is that Sonic knows he could *maybe* get to San Francisco on his own in a much quicker way, but if he did he could be taking the risk of Eggman or someone else finding him much faster if they read his speed level or something like that So he sticks by Tom’s side with the fake excuse that he doesn’t know where SF is because traveling by car wouldn’t raise awareness With the added bonus that he gets to spend time with his father figure But hey! That’s just a theory, a comment theory!

[@blackwhiteartistry733]

Can we all appreciate the fact that MatPat went out of his way to find the route that Sonic and Tom took to San Francisco, even though *there's a clip* in the movie of Tom *highlighting that same route* on his map? (About 20 minutes or so into the movie)

[@the_common_human2201]

B r u h Matpat after seeing this: 👁️ 👄 👁️

[@LJ_973]

Ohmph

[@nitimas6244]

Hbyyiercttee

[@alyssahalliwell1195]

DAAAAAANNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG

[@LilithLorenz]

NO WAY THATS HILARIOUS LOL

[@DraconicWF]

You aren’t considering sonic getting tired out, we know sonic has a need for sleep and food. Running like that nonstop would take an enormous amount of energy so he would have to take excessive brakes. Plus sonic is a curious person there is no chance he wouldn’t get distracted by something. You also aren’t considering robotnik and the government. Staying in the car is much less conspicuous than a blue blur running around the entire USA. He would definitely run into trouble and Probably more trouble. Plus he might get reckless without supervision. All in all the way sonic did was just much safer and better if you look at the logistics. Maybe I’m wrong IDK. BUt ThATs JuSt A THeoRy a GaME ThEorY.

[@thestevens580]

He said it took seven hours. He has more than twice that time to beat the car bc of how long it takes for the car to get there. He still has soooo much time Besides this isn’t counting factors like people noticing that him Being there it’s just talking about the speed it would take him.

[@kingpiggins292]

If they made that the plot of the movie it would be better in my opinion

[@zathielramirez7585]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmSce2pth9GFa68 this is sonic running non stop all day

[@starrypines590]

12:04 He didn't specify that, but there was an unspoken etc. there

[@matthewclantz146]

Another note is that Sonic doesn't even want to leave the world either. So he's trying to stay as long as he can.

[@GuillermoSmyser]

Gonna guess his electro-discharge comes from an emotional reaction not just "if he goes fast enough" we see this in the movie. He goes as fast as possible sometimes but doesn't discharge but then when he's emotional enough he does discharge. Perhaps the discharge and speed come from a similar place in his metabolism.

[@Fireintie]

Eggmans measurement literally showed that his spikes (hair?) possess infinite energy, so...

[@penitentmanmedia4726]

Let's be real about the floss. The reason that move is so easy to do is because it we do it everyday after getting out of the shower. Some guy or girl was drying him/her off and liked that movement so much that him/her thought it would make a good dance move but calling the dry doesn't sound as cool as the floss.😂

[@alljammedup6781]

Alternatively: Sonic has some real intense ADHD and upon his first plunge into the Pacific because he quite literally went due west from his current position, the RSD and time blindness kicked in and he didn't like the idea of looking for an indefinite period of time for these Really Important Things That He Had To Have Right This Second.

[@rachelmoody1520]

Or consider: Who Would want to actually run all the roads in America? Like, I know absolutely nothing about Sonic but running that fast must take a lot o energy, right? And it would be just as tedious from his perspective as it would be from ours if we did it, no matter that it would only take him a few hours - that's still much longer time spent than the average run for excercise.

[@coryfan5872]

@@rachelmoody1520 Even with breaks that double the time, running all the roads in America would be far faster than the road trip.

[@JohnSmith-xf1zu]

@@coryfan5872 Well that's assuming he only runs them once. In actuality, he would likely run multiple roads multiple times, as there are dead ends, intersections with an odd number of connections, and the whole traveling salesman issue of even finding the optimal path in the first place.

[@sailorsnow5815]

I just sat here in this theory and I thought, “I didn’t think of that” So then I thought... maybe.. sonic didn’t think of that. It also could be that sonic wanted to spend time with the Donut Lord, and he guilted him into it or something. Idk. Those are just my first thoughts

[@anonymousyoutuber1405]

I thought everyone caught that.

[@jacobstewart5512]

He's a kid who wanted to spend time with a person he thought was a cool dude. He had lots of things he wanted to do before he left Earth. He wanted to start a bar fight, he wanted to do a slam dunk, and he wanted to make a friend. He didn't want to be alone.

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

Also, we know from the movie that Sonic does get tired. Sonic couldn't have been running for 4 hours straight.

[@Shadowmakeschaos]

Margaret Lemon sonic isn’t a kid at the start he is..... it sounds like you really know nothing about him

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

Sonicgirl Playz It sounds like you didn't watch the movie.

[@cringeyyygaming1262]

Dude when sonic was taking a “road trip” his legs were considered “feelin like spaghetti”

[@mattdocken4551]

Yes, and after that he ran out to see the rubber band ball.

[@theycallmerainy2010]

jebblottin92 it was poorly acted out dialogue. The exact same words could do as long as the actor sounded a bit fearful.

[@naha6161]

Yes, but in one of the shown clips, he ran to the Atlantic ocean, before he had started the trip. This proves that his legs were completely healed at the point in which he is expected to have left.

[@theycallmerainy2010]

jebblottin92 very true

[@Robbie.D.Rancid]

Gaming for Gaming because the tranquilizer gun numbed his legs

[@Idontcare74926]

Matpat: im goin to make a Sonic video Also MAtpat: *casually outsmarts the CIA while he's at it

[@Nnaul]

Matpat:"I'm the weird single guy" I thought he was married with a kid, What happened? Did I miss something?

[@frozenwintershitty]

single guy meaning he is 1 Person watching the movie.

[@safetytheflamewolf]

I think he was referring to the fact he was by himself in the movie theater rather then with a family

[@drivera0502]

I think Stephanie left him after he sold off his own son in a previous video

[@joelramirez8629]

This.

[@avianwmorgan8462]

They divorced a few months ago.

[@justallwrong5401]

meanwhile in a CIA building* CIA agent: "Why is someone adding up the mileage of roadways around the world?"

[@MegaBradster1]

JustAllWrong Hope they don’t realize we just threw random numbers for half the countries

[@ErikPT]

He should have used the NSA who had actual real data of all information accessible.

[@nopity3057]

Why I would do the adding up of mileages of roadways across the world: It helps pass the time.

[@nlechoppa3687]

JustAllWrong kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKCsoGtpqsehjJY

[@WordzThePoet]

And when they watch THIS video, they will ad “Deleted scenes” explaining why he didn’t want to run around the world etc. “didn’t want to attract attention” or “didnt feel like it” lol

[@sarahloveless1726]

I have another take: Sonic seems to have the attention span of a squirrel. Maybe he wanted him to come along to keep him on track

[@happycamperds9917]

Sonic: DODGES OVER 100 MISSILES Also Sonic: CAN’T DODGE A SINGLE TRANQUILIZER DART

[@errorninja1019]

well his brain was focused on screaming therefore he was distracted

[@Fluffkitscripts]

I suppose the speed is something he has to turn on and off. When he’s using it, he can dodge. But if he doesn’t know the dart is coming, he can’t dodge.

[@midnightminingspider7824]

Ha

[@fakenio242]

MidnightMining Spider you mean AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@bartg6937]

He was.....too slow.

[@Gihad97]

The question is does Sonic have the endurance to run for a whole day? Thats what I see is that he couldn’t run for a whole day straight at that speed.

[@thetestinggrounds7855]

I was trying to consider his endurance as well. I mean, it's not like his body is immune to damage. So why should he be immune to fatigue?

[@Gihad97]

Pyro Gaming Inc exactly. They say the flash has to eat a ton of calories because he burns up so many. It should be the same for Sonic as well.

[@jodester3132]

@@Gihad97 Sonic is a hedgehog so it's probably a much smaller fraction of calories compared to the flash.

[@dylanconfer1116]

Good theory, haven't seen the movie yet. I do want to say however, that Sonic getting lost is a reoccurring theme from what I've seen. In a episode of Sonic X, if I remember correctly, he runs around the globe in order to find a specific place. And it appears, again if I remember correctly, Sonic's attention span is shorter than he is fast, as he runs in circles and zig-zags, it takes him an entire day. This idea has also appeared in other episodes of Sonic X, but it's been forever since I've watched that. Just saying that no matter how unbelievable it's predictable.

[@KTSpeedruns]

Canon trumping math. Yay.

[@coyraig8332]

Sonic has the same attention span in the movie

[@katelynnjones8836]

Me who watched the entire sonic x series on Netflix last week.

[@gaxna007yt9]

i know i’m 3 years late, but if sonic decided to just blindly run, he would probably stop at every single attraction he comes across

[@pie6029]

When Robotnik just used Sonic's power for his own machines I just thought: "So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum"

[@Hunter-lj4mg]

9 seconds have passed

[@enginegaming2848]

Is Sonic a Jojo reference?????

[@tibiafibiafie]

When Sonic stopped time I was thinking “4 seconds have passed”

[@ekaj-fj3gk]

I still wonder how there are JoJo fans in each and every comment section on KZbin

[@jamkithotlinemiami901]

Yare yare daze

[@S.B.C-Pixi]

Matpat: Researches all roadways known by the government. Me: *has flashbacks to CGP grey and Vsauce* I've seen this raw strength only once before.

[@v1gamerdiaz592]

@@YoungAlienBoy Wait what

[@abubakarjamro5713]

Matpat in 2019: sonic should not run that fast or else his joint would be impaired. Matpat in 2020: Why isn't sonic using his speed to find his rings.

[@jaythewolf7216]

this 100% geez

[@らいふく-c9d]

IKR XD

[@verybasedgamez2700]

no

[@olilondonisabum7170]

@Liam LaMarre no he wasnt

[@GreenlLemon]

It's not "one must imagine sisyphus happy" it's "one must imagine MatPat happy"

[@randomcontentahead6428]

Sonic isolating himself was just him hiding from the corona earlier than everyone else

[@Burstroom]

Sonic went so fast he warped into the future and saw stuff about the virus and went back to the past and isolated himself. Or I t was just his home.

[@gegernald6455]

Do creatures that look like humanoid dogs from different dimensions catch the COVID-19?

[@dragonsquad9144]

Lol

[@manobigb9633]

Lol

[@technobladeneverdies7547]

HA! Sonic has nothing on us introverts! We were hiding from Corona since begining! XD

[@SteamPunkLinken7]

Sonic: Im the fastest in the world! Camera Man: Don’t make me laugh.

[@ghostleemann955]

DAG

[@nevodahari916]

Where did you get your profile picture from?

[@SteamPunkLinken7]

An anime called Overlord.

[@nevodahari916]

@@SteamPunkLinken7 Oh ok, thanks

[@yotsugiononoki5343]

nevo dahari it has 3 seasons 12 episode each it’s a good series

[@cogniferous2537]

Matpat: The CIA themself miscalculated the roadways in the world on their own website. What idiots. *The CIA forgetting that people don't know about the classified roads:* Oh, haha. You got me good!

[@mastershooter64]

lmaoo!! nice!

[@c.ccarlhead5744]

*laughs in hidden *

[@videakias3000]

classified roads? how on earth can you make an entire road and keep it secret?

[@CUZZZZZZZskalzzz]

@@videakias3000 Think of it like Area 51. You can see it, you know it's there, you can even go outside it; but you are not allowed in.

[@eliasstenman3710]

Yeah, it feels like one person is more likely to make a mistake than the CIA. He should have gone by the official numbers.

[@traci1261]

Matpat: "Did Sonic Waste Our Time?" everyone else: "Wow, Sonic's fast"

[@whateven9211]

As someone who lives in Deer Lodge, Mt... it made me laugh a little when I watched this.

[@AlechiaTheWitch]

I didn't know that many other montanans watched this. I know 2.

[@AlechiaTheWitch]

@Junxi Liang u one

[@phlippedfilosophy9047]

1 in 100000000000

[@Nethercroc]

No you dont, your kidding right?!

[@messenger_of_unspoken_dreams]

stop lying for likes

[@jamesfields5661]

How MatPat went about finding this answer got me thinking. He calculated it using roads, and assuming that sonic would never use the same road twice. I think this logic skews the answer by quite a bit so i wrote a program to run a simulation of sonic traveling from Deer Lodge, to a random point, then to another random point, et c. until he found himself in or immediately around San Francisco. My program gave me an average of 8282 hours (~345 days) for sonic to randomly find himself in San Francisco over 1000 trials. I would also like to say

[@piguyalamode164]

What about an optimized algorithm, or always turn left? That should do way better. Or if sonic spent like 3 seconds to find out it was on the coast, and just ran that.

[@jamesfields5661]

@@piguyalamode164 idk, Sonic seems like a pretty care free kinda guy that always wants to jump right in. That's why I decided to just pick random points. Just pick a direction and go for a bit before going somewhere else. And I chose for him to have no memory of where he was before cause there's no way someone could remember exactly what heading they were going and for how long to figure out where they were and where they weren't. There are plenty of ways to optimize Sonic's travel, like covering one degree longitude then moving over but this is just a 'lets go somewhere where we don't know where it is with no reason' estimation. At the end of the day Sonic could just ask where San Francisco is

[@thestevens580]

Why would he just go in random directions? If he has somewhere important to be wouldn’t he be more systematic? Wouldn’t he realize how often he had visited a spot? This is assuming he just goes places regardless of where he’s already been. You seem really dedicated to this but no matter how “care free” he is this still seems like a very very very worst case scenario. Besides didn’t whats-his-face give him a general direction to start in? Just saying that doesn’t seem to be the most accurate.

[@jamesfields5661]

@@thestevens580 since it's a randomized spot on the planet the likelihood of him ever going to the same place twice is actually astronomically small but is possible. Best case scenario is him going in a straight line after getting directions, which he doesn't do regardless.

[@jamesfields5661]

@Mason Waddell eh, took 20 min to write then I let it run while I got dinner

[@mrfuzzymittens1453]

"sonic can turn his life around in 1 year so can you" i never felt so personally attacked. subbed

[@KevinG3699]

I know, right in the meow meow.

[@traci1261]

Sonic: "I'm gonna throw these rings into a random hole" also Sonic: "ROAD TRIP TIMEEEEEE"

[@marco446]

"Did sonic waste our time" Kid part of me : *nooo! Never*

[@nockradqkdak7992]

Mom: youre wasting your time on the genesis/mega drive (i dont know which countrie you are frkm

[@SomewhereFireworks]

“Call me Angelica Schuyler because I am still not satisfied” -MatPat, 2020

[@axelstars7117]

HAMILFANNNNNN

[@funnyfox204]

Vergil Sanders WOOOOOOOOO

[@6teafrog698]

Out boi has learned the ways of fan fiction KZbin and *wattpat*

[@CinematicInsanity]

Monika so how is the Club doing

[@floydofnova2743]

You have summon us Hamilton fans

[@RavynMad121]

There is one major factor you didn't include: Sonic has a serious case of ADHD. Without Tom to keep reminding him what he was supposed to be doing, he would have gotten distracted by absolutely everything and likely forgotten there was something important he was supposed to be doing. He could easily spend a whole day in every city he found. And as for the building climbing thing, most of what he did in the climax he was figuring out on the spot.

[@AJsMillions]

Sonic is more TDHD (Time-Displacement-Hyperactive-Disorder) But still a great role model.

[@SamIAmWich]

My boyfriend with ADHD fully said that it seems like Sonic had ADHD.

[@AJsMillions]

@@SamIAmWich good to know its still only guessed at then (thumbs up)

[@SamIAmWich]

@@AJsMillions I agree, it could be something else. But it's good to have representation for people with stuff like this.

[@AJsMillions]

@@SamIAmWich If it could be something else it isn't really representation for ADHD. Sonic is a fantastic example of hyperactivity, I'm just surprised he didn't need to be slowed down like in the movie "Epic".

[@Mario_has_a_gun]

14:22 MatPat was never heard from again.

[@alphacat77]

To be fair I saw someone talking about how this seems like it was a pre-existing script repurposed to include sonic which would explain why the decision to put sonic in a car

[@auravaury]

besides it's cheaper, you just have to ride with a doll in a green screen .-.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

More like they just used basic cliche's to help push their own version of sonic.

[@dickmarx1298]

Oh...like the Joker movie. Hollywood are lazy shitlords

[@katherine252]

Matpat: "Call me Angelica Schuyler cause im still not satisfied!" Me and my fellow theater kids are quaking

[@tiffany15O5]

I don't think that's a theatre kid thing, Hamilton is VERY famous

[@doxiedarling144]

*Quakes intensely*

[@CrystalDoggoIsMissing]

WORK WORK

[@afkijkuit4057]

@@CrystalDoggoIsMissing Angelicaaaa

[@sem9517]

Elizzaaa and PEGGY!

[@pieguy6992]

Even if Sonic knew he could get to San Francisco faster than if he just took the road trip with Tom, I think he would still have gone with the road trip because he's always wanted to bond with humans and that would be a great chance to.

[@PumpkinDude314]

you can really tell how late they edited the numbers on the speedometer based on the sloppy editing on the numbers showing this isnt most likely a film theory fan but rather a person who just heard about this through social media etc

[@Bubbles0989]

*These comments:* sonic would probably go over the roads more than once *matt:* literally calculated every roadway on the planet *me:* i think its covered ya’ll

[@themightysalamence9870]

Funny thing is that sonic wouldn't be able to turn at top speeds. He probably could turn at around 600mph

[@greaterbritannia5745]

“Call me Angelica Schyuler cuz I’m still not satisfied!” -Matpat 2020

[@zachthemangod1512]

Whos that tho

[@sakanagakyoko]

Is that a HAMILTON refference??

[@SYatesie]

WHEN HE SAID THAT IT MADE ME SO SO SO HAPPY AAAAAA

[@starcre9338]

Yess Hamilton

[@xronium]

@@zachthemangod1512 if you are making a joke, disregard this comment. Angelica Schuyler was the sister of Eliza Schuyler, who was the wife of Alexander Hamilton. Angelica was going to be Hamilton's wife and Hamilham said to Angelica; "You strike me As a woman who has never been satified." Keep in mind this is from the Hamilton Musical.

[@RGBY-tv4hg]

Matt Pat: _"Like and ring the notification bell."_ *NO* Also Matt Pat: _"Call me Angelica Skylar because I'm still not satisfied"_ *OK fine*

[@scoobbers1836]

Aiden Rostine coOL

[@rebekahhiggins9002]

He will never be satisfied I will never Be Satisfied

[@Dr.Spider2387]

The “iT NevEr ENdS” was so wholesome

[@heckenpeter193]

In Germany we have a saying: "Der Weg ist das Ziel" Which roughly translates to: "The journey is the goal" Which implies, that it is not only about how fast you reach your goal, but more about the way you do. And i think, that sonic could have achieved the goal of retrieving his rings faster alone, but was retrieving the rings really his only goal? No, it was not.

[@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587]

you're not German

[@akyer8085]

Ich liebe deinen Hund essen

[@onezeee]

@Abbie Plasters r/wooosh

[@GODOFAWSOMENESS1]

1zy how is “you’re not German” a joke?

[@erj9081]

Weißt du den Weg?

[@jorgesierra4585]

The problem is: Sonic is a living thing you know, he needs breaks and he wouldn’t concetrate enough to only run. He would probably visit every place that he is interested in. Like a little child that asks her mom if he could go to a toy store. My opinion, maybe im wrong and still is better than the trip in car and you discussed the worst case scenarios

[@OnlySayori]

I think your right, after all sonic in this movie is alot like a child with how he acts, so he'd probably easily get distracted AND would also need to take breaks therefore it'd most likely take longer in generel in my opinion

[@Matick125]

And a car runs out of gas as well :), sooooooooo

[@OnlySayori]

@@Matick125 it'd be faster then a sonic that'd be distracted and sorta tired

[@Matick125]

@@OnlySayori you run out of gas in the middle of the road and you got to push it to a gas station sooooooooo

[@Sanad-g2x]

@@OnlySayori he ran over 1.6 thousand kilometres in 4 seconds I think he'll be fine and also matpat wasnt saying his top speed in the movie for all we know sonic could get to san francisco in under an hour

[@ribhavvallishayee1580]

The only problem is that sonic doesnt know how big the world is, he would just assume that traveling by cars would be faster

[@Everettalla]

Aw lol

[@totu1161]

Or maybe travelling really fast would make him tired really quickly

[@alexlayne2482]

Yeah

[@dahasslehaus9958]

He also assumes he doesn't run the same roadways over an over..... I know when j look for my keys I check the same place like 12 times.

[@lancealfredcamarillo8460]

@@totu1161 He never gets tired. Sonic said it himself

[@sherylcervantes8901]

Sonic:Dodges over 100 missiles easily Me:can’t dodge a nerf dart

[@blackbun130]

Tbh when Eggman said "They proved it" I actually did think of Game Theory at first 😂

[@sonicjason255]

Why... that wasn't even the thing matpat proved, he actually disproved that before doing math on Sonic's stopping in the video he's referencing

[@blackbun130]

@@sonicjason255 Bro I said "at first". Just in the spur of the moment when that line was said I thought of GT, that's it. Dumb smarty pants.

[@sonicjason255]

@@blackbun130 oh... ok sorry

[@tonyswag4960]

The 4 seconds of sonic running was just him crashing in to the cold Pacific Ocean. So he did it instantly multiple times faster than light

[@Kirkpepm]

Yep and if he read a map or JUST FOLLOWED THE ROAD, he would have gotten their even more faster.

[@kitty-xs2rt]

T a huuuu99ii

[@atkinstar9046]

Here's a theory: Even though Sonic's Quill has unlimited power and can propel Robotnik's ship to sonic speeds, Robotnik can't REACT at the same speed as Sonic, so the second they both go supersonic, and Sonic takes a turn, Robotnik wouldn't be able to react in time and would crash. Very simple, but would end the whole movie.

[@suicune2001]

Robotnik's mind works a lot faster than a normal human so he might have faster reflexes.

[@shawnjohn5756]

suicune2001 not really buddy.You see,even if your mind can process information at a MUCH faster rate,you still need to train your body and condition it to react to that information.This is why a martial artist is able to react faster than a regular human

[@suicune2001]

@@shawnjohn5756 That's a good point. Maybe he had his machine help compensate.

[@alijarivera5877]

What if he just had an auto drive feature to track and destroy Sonic? That makes sense, right?

[@bossjin348]

@@alijarivera5877 yeah. That's what I'm thinking

[@Super_Sonic_gamer714]

well, i needed this so i stopped crying from the news

[@CrYngeMania]

Me, a human living in Deer Lodge: Oh, hey! Look at- The prison isn't that bad, dude..

[@Modernwoman-cy6dc]

Are you really

[@CinematicInsanity]

Hey fellow Montanan!!! Still find it hilarious that Sonic is a Montanan movie.

[@alphabriarwolf721]

Well you aren't wrong cause I visited Deer Lodge once and it was cool to see

[@magnifichades9710]

FELLOW MONTANANS UNITE

[@techformsmaster930]

you fail to consider 1 thing, since he doesn't know how to get there, he could've ended up running in a big circle for the rest of time.

[@TayoEXE]

That's what I was thinking of too. In a brute force algorithm along some graph, you have to have some kind of way of keeping track of where you have been. It's unlikely Sonic just magically memorizes every place he has been too and could have just as easily kept running through areas and towns he has already visited.

[@Moonstar79]

MatPat: Adds up every single road in the western hemisphere Also MatPat: Assumed Sonic doesn't cross the same road twice

[@nataliaborys1554]

He could run in circles in one state very easily

[@rubenantao2476]

I know how easily people can get lost in a shopping mall imagine trying to not get lost on a planet

[@rockeaterlink]

I mean, he prob will only take a month even if he crosses each one 73 times or somthing

[@rubenantao2476]

true but it would be slower than a 2 day road trip

[@SamODonnell-up7bm]

i did it matt i will miss you greatly i aspire to be like you

[@nikniknotsry7806]

"Well call me Angelica Sklyar cause im still not satisfied!" - Matpat 2020 Love the Hamilton reference

[@woah4167]

Not to be _that_ guy, but schuyler*

[@fork.5707]

@@woah4167 you just gained the high ground on Niknik not sry

[@brackenblaze6225]

12:22

[@Avigorus]

if Tom had only thought to tell Sonic, "go west till you reach the ocean, then go south, you'll eventually find it," that would've been the end of the movie, and Sonic would've ended up on Mushroom Planet while Robotnik used his quill to conquer the Earth. Good thing that didn't happen...

[@kingambrosius9125]

Or he shows Sonic Google Maps

[@kingambrosius9125]

jebblottin92 true. I didn’t notice that tbh

[@andersmith1484]

I feel like sonic could have run on water well he would have to to run around the entire world so I’m assuming that’s he’s about the same weight of dash from the incredible and dash only has to run about 90 miles per hour to run in water so ya sonic could have just ran across water when he could really go fast without having to worry about people and animals so it’s probably even shorter then an hour he ran west and then started running in the oceans and eventually found San Francisco because we have a huge red bridge kinda hard to miss

[@undeadvalkyrie52]

I mean, who wouldn't want Jim Carrey to rule the world?

[@crazymochacchino6209]

“Did the Sonic Movie waste our time?” Me: *It never did.*

[@killer-ye9oy]

@@CaptainCat101 agreed

[@ch3esee]

Maybe it did

[@Eric_1991]

Yes. Yes it did.

[@coolkidvexx2231]

@@CaptainCat101 it's a waste of time

[@harrymassey2301]

C

[@Endarire]

Running around the world: Maybe he's concerned about running into other people/objects. Other vehicles ALSO occupy those roads!

[@rosure7]

The calculations already account for those things though. When he headed west he did have to go through obstacles.

[@teakfreeman3543]

good point, but isn't this the same dude who could run between missiles on more than a single plane, some cars on the highway and a few pedestrians might not be too hard to weave through

[@iambicpentakill971]

Nah, he could just ball up and explode through them for their delicious delicious rings.

[@justanothergemini2785]

I just realized.. sonic crashed into the ocean, but he’s scared of water and can’t swim??? Wtf???

[@SurfRaichu]

Movie Sonic and Mainline Sonic have different origins, personalities and abilities. We never got a detailed explanation for Sonic's fear of the water in the movie, so we can't really accept that true for Movie Sonic

[@deltainfinium869]

Its not unreasonable to think that he ended up in the pacific and immediately doubled back, possibly stopping himself before he reaches any truly threatening waters

[@mhm4425]

I think thats why he whant back to the truck

[@pawwcat_.]

but he was cold? so he jumped out.

[@andisadoily1935]

He really just crashed into a dentist's aquarium, oopsie

[@mew.shroom]

Sonic thought the world was Minecraft, infinitely generated.

[@youngjellyfish8694]

Best comment

[@lvbboi9]

@@youngjellyfish8694 worst*

[@jacobmartinez38]

Minecraft is not infinite

[@moonshineblackmoon7293]

@@jacobmartinez38 you wanna try and reach the end of it then?

[@prest01]

@@jacobmartinez38 sonic thought it was the infdev version of minecraft

[@tanner2290]

Matpat doxxing Sonic, you missed a title!

[@bubblybobabubbles]

"Sonic turned his life around in a year, and you can too." Yeah, just not THIS year..

[@Awlibby07]

U right

[@3down4togo]

I vibe with this

[@Moronicgamer]

G

[@heymadio6709]

Tell mat don’t make theories about me

[@kyle2375]

One factor we don’t know about sonic, how far can he run Without stopping

[@creeklist3890]

L

[@zirixalfrade]

O

[@hexofastora9173]

L

[@randomthings8732]

Z

[@lucynichols204]

😂

[@PhantomStella]

He'd probably get distracted and stop at every tourist trap so it's probably good that he went with Tom lol

[@alejjtheninja5803]

Fair point.

[@looygibros_060]

I love how he used Cyclops for tom in the video

[@brytheguy4515]

"roadways across all 50 states" Hawaii: uhhh... are you forgetting something?

[@everblue2277]

BryTheGuy same with Alaska.

[@brytheguy4515]

@@everblue2277 at least with Alaska it's physically possible to drive there

[@redkingrauri3769]

Wait was the highway in Bojack Horseman not real?

[@awesomeblb3407]

BryTheGuy and Alaska

[@everblue2277]

BryTheGuy yeah, lol, but in the section for just America you can’t really take the roads.

[@jmas2593]

Sonic: Hey can I use your google maps app? Tom: Sure Movie: Is over

[@spalsh10yearsago31]

Jimi Masuraki honestly

[@real_fanta_star_3626]

How would the satellite see him?

[@artomaton776]

@@real_fanta_star_3626 Let them have this

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

Every time he takes a turn, he stops for a few seconds to let the phone update, and give new directions.

[@jonnykk843]

It shows how fast your going on Google Maps to and if the government is watching us then I pretty sure they would see that