Film Theory: The Spiderman 2 Mystery! Why Spiderman Lost His Powers!

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We've seen a lot of Spider-Man lately. Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse, Spider-Man: Homecoming, and soon Spider-Man: Far From Home. Before that we saw Andrew Garfield slinging webs with Emma Stone for a couple movies, but I want you to think FURTHER back. That's right, I'm talking Tobey Maguire Spider-Man.
Remember how at the end of his first movie EVERYTHING had gone wrong? Norman Osborn - the Green Goblin - was gone, his best friend was fatherless, Uncle Ben did what all Uncle Ben's do, etc.. It was all very sad. In Spider-Man 2, we see a Spider-Man without his powers. I want to talk about WHY he lost his powers. What made our friendly, neighborhood Spider-Man just plain, old Peter Parker?
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[@sirturtlethegreat7190]

For once my childhood is improved and not brutally murdered

[@justabean3487]

Ikr this movie is the best spider man movie

[@marcusward6235]

I think "embraced" is a more accurate term.

[@javanrench2094]

Sir Turtle The Great it’s impossible for a childhood to be murderd

[@cowmoosh]

Good point usually MatPat turns my favorite characters into villains.

[@insufferableanarchist]

Matpat has officially failed at his job then

[@malikbessaadia440]

"Sometimes the most heroic thing you can do is taking care of yourself" - MatPat

[@roky7772]

well it is not false

[@memowl3663]

yes even in these trying times

[@noonespecial1178]

agree

[@x-rax716]

@youssef eslam take the L

[@insertrandomnamehere5878]

I agree

[@tentedeagle5401]

(SPOILER WARNING for No Way Home!!!) What's cool about this video is that MatPat was right, because in No Way Home, Toby answers Tom's question about if it (webs) ever runs out. Toby answers< "Existential Crisis"

[@zipzer5187]

plus the other peters give tom advice on how to deal with the stress/trauma of loss

[@Queerqueen1234]

Thank you so much for the spoiler warning!☺️

[@sayba6766]

yea

[@ItsTropixal]

Yeah I was hoping someone would say that!

[@trevorrose3769]

I remember a scene where Andrew was asking Toby’s Spider-Man on the scaffolding about why he thought his powers were lost and I remember when Toby said, “I went through some things” I realized that line had to be a reference to this theory

[@ronnieyates8527]

Mat is basically right. The movie almost outright states that he was sick. From keeping his love for MJ inside, losing his best friend, the death of his uncle and the responsibility of keeping the city safe. His powers went dormant (Like how you can't smell when you catch a cold), so he took a break and discovered that there were still people out there who appreciated him and took the good he did and spread it throughout New York City. Knowing that people were still there for him, and that people still loved him gave him the strength he needed to get his powers back.

[@leepicx1460]

This shows how Spider-man is still a human after all, he gets sick, gets tired and feel more pain when he's stressed or depressed

[@user-fo1nk3pd1t]

Thats one of the reasons Stan Lee liked him so much. He said multiple times that what makes Peter such a good hero is how relatable he is

[@julieusc1076]

F

[@RangerLVJY]

@@user-fo1nk3pd1t RIP

[@someweirdcatontheinternet8590]

🗿

[@newhybrid101]

Just a good kid in the end

[@DanielSambar]

_He lost his powers due to the lack of pizza time._

[@svendinsvinderlin4569]

no, it's 2019 not 2018

[@fluff3610]

No u

[@sanjidandelion]

cmon that's some low hanging fruit do better man.

[@ItsDiamondd]

Snap

[@robbob5258]

Your not everywhere, but your in a lot of videos.

[@helencaldwell2964]

This was outright confirmed in no way home! Good job, matpat!

[@duckman9327]

I know, the man predicts things years before without even trying

[@Quiyum]

@@duckman9327 his infinity war prediction was way off lol

[@PumpkinKing-ruler-of-pumpkins]

@@Quiyum and many others were wrong and many others where right hes 50/50 as all things should be

[@derrickdaniels3955]

​@@PumpkinKing-ruler-of-pumpkins😂

[@quantingtondinglitson4591]

where

[@panicattheanimationstudio5673]

Spoilers! Matpat was more or less right. In Spiderman no way home Tobey's Peter says that he had that loss of powers due to an existential crisis

[@MADHAV-FF007]

Maybe the director watched this video

[@Jejdjejbfjf]

Matt mentioned PTSD, which is totally different from just an existential crisis, so I think Matt was totally wrong.

[@jillyanconnell3212]

pretty much, they also talked about web blockage which could've also caused it

[@wolfy.makes.art._]

I was just thinking the exact same thing lol

[@Jejdjejbfjf]

@@eduardosantiago6948 existential crisis and ptsd can be totally different… the latter is a mental illness term which should not be used loosely. Maybe do some research on mental health first before using these terms.

[@samuelneil2691]

This theory makes the movies feel so much deeper emotionally.

[@wisespidey]

Ikr

[@user-kx8pu6ys5i]

Surprisingly so yeah

[@nathannilson4392]

I know. The MCU lacks this kind of stuff.

[@joahanramirez5811]

Oh man, we're all like Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man. We all just young adults trying to figure it out.

[@swinepine]

@@nathannilson4392 Tony Stark's character arc was emotional.

[@MattMann-cr2nj]

Matpat: let's say what a great year 2018 was Me in 2020: enjoy it, it won't last.

[@abolfazlmaghsoodi5914]

That was so me

[@dhanehlayeh6924]

2018 was a bad year for me but it helped me grow

[@shygirl3389]

20:20

[@samuelnavarro6343]

In my opinion 2020 wasnt that bad

[@loungefrog5326]

@@samuelnavarro6343 so a pandemic isnt that bad is what you're saying

[@II_worm_II]

2 years later and Mat Pat was right in No way Home Tobey says he had Web block (power lose) due to "existential crisis stuff"

[@reeddeer9737]

cool a spoiler nice to know tobey's in spider-man 3 :/

[@buddy1852]

@@reeddeer9737 The movie has been out for a month and I wouldn't be on the internet too much if I really dont want a movie spoiled. Plus if you have to be on the internet I wouldn't watch a video on a character highly rumored to return.

[@baljeetbavde]

imagine how happy he will be when he sees his theory being proven right in no way home

[@MyHeadsHollow]

*uses game theory logo for film theory intro* Me: what sorcery is this!?!

[@yolo_twice5827]

This is the theory cinematic universe

[@jaihou1610]

Icee Clash I agree

[@boeyzhang8565]

@@yolo_twice5827 lol

[@imparanoiiid]

Icee Clash CONSPIRACY THEORY mat pat from game theory is the same mat pat from film theory

[@gabbywilliams5374]

@@imparanoiiid doubt it...

[@mattrichmond4636]

MJ: Do you love me? Peter: I- *ad appears*

[@axfinity9134]

Peter: I - I use Audible everyday, and listen to their collection of over 1,000 audiobooks

[@favianguerra8954]

It happened to me too

[@kateliu5476]

i- use treseme hair care

[@mars1336]

I-I love pizza more than u

[@hhh-sg2bu]

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[@kk_jacket6797]

You can also see this in Spiderman: Far From Home, where Tom Holland's spiderman couldn't use his spider senses. It's because he too also went through a traumatic event, His own Death and Iron Man's, this is more than just a theory, its spot on.

[@irisbutterfly4845]

Wait. Are you talking about the banana?

[@pharaohatem6962]

It was only until he accepted his flaws and became his own person that he got full control of them

[@Thatonecalled_neon]

Funny thing is, my mom was studying medicine when I first watched the second movie as a kid, and she already solved it before this theory came out. She said that Peter wasen't eating well and feelinf sad(Simple words for a child) wich may mean depression and eating disorders.

[@filipman]

Also the doctor from Spider-Man 2 said it was psychological

[@Tsimon206]

I know I was about to say that

[@clipboss8052]

I mean yeah, but he never explains in what form. I knew there was guilt and anxiety, but this theory gave me a whole new way of looking at these scenes from Spider-Man 2.

[@Zer0Fox_gibbon]

True, but it wasn't fully explain d beyond 'psychological' that's a base term, like if you were to ask someone what car they have and they respond with 'one with wheels'

[@filipman]

lee walker true

[@kevinw712]

yeah this almost sort of feels like a "midichlorians" kind of thing, like it's not needed to get THIS specific on why/how something is. An average viewer can extrapolate from the psychological reasoning given in the movie to what more it could mean to have it be plenty reasonable to appreciate the movie and not feel like something substantial was left too ambiguous.

[@ethanterrell6359]

Writers of Spider-man 2: Uh, sure this is how he got his powers back.

[@brobiv2452]

lol

[@theonethatlovescartoons3196]

Hhhh xd

[@lakshacc5954]

Lol

[@Left4Cake]

Pretty sure Peter taking care of himself is what the writers intended just not necessarily thr specific medical digonses.

[@shygirl3389]

12:00

[@Thecloaker_]

“A mystery i think i can solve today” No way home: “Funny you mention that i actually did have a web block.” “Oh really? Why?” “Existential crisis” Love how you do all this work then in no way home he just says existential crisis as to why he loses his power.

[@dafilmqueen556]

But an existential crisis could also be caused by PTSD. He had no self-love or self-identity for himself that time, maybe that's why he had an existential crisis.

[@retrocadeza]

The emotional trauma reasoning has been prevalent throughout Spider-Man 2, I get the whole first movie emotional connections but they made sure to make it known in way more subtle ways in spiderman 2. He kept takings L’s till he threw away his suit.

[@turtle9400]

Wasn’t there a line of Otto saying bottling up love can make you sick, which was exactly what Peter did

[@alfred3842]

Which Otto tho?

[@Mrjer8]

Yea that’s how he lost his powers

[@kostadim7892]

@@alfred3842 which Otto? The one in the movie genius

[@johnyt657]

@@kostadim7892 He means was it Otto or the Tentacles who said it 🤦‍♂️

[@kostadim7892]

@@johnyt657 Lmfao alright buddy, first I’ve heard people refer to the guy as two different people

[@peterwilson5307]

*I'LL GET MY POWERS WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN DOOR*

[@chubbypapaya]

I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye

[@JordanWheeler1999]

"ooh Look at little Goblin jr, your gonna cry?"

[@Han-4578]

Lol

[@minorityman9560]

Ima guess you guys have watched some Spider-Man ytps?

[@wanderover6417]

Peter Wilson lol

[@lettuce1626]

They mentioned this in no way home!! He talked about existential crisis but probably wasn’t accurate just because he didn’t wanna talk too much about it

[@IzzuZiq]

One thing to note is that even in the comics, Peter at one point does lose his powers due to mental stress. Not as badly as in the Raimi movies, but it proves this plot point has its basis in the source material and the movie kinda sorta hints to his powers being tied to his mental state. Just not explicit and of course, like other recent comments, is confirmed in No Way Home. Speaking of No Way Home, that whole thing at the end about saving oneself mentally is also lowkey a thing Tobey kept in mind in-universe, considering in NWH, he made sure his other selves are mentally going to be in a better place and that's beautiful

[@rager5600]

"Good year" •He dies in Infinity War •He loses his aunt •Both of his creators die in the same year

[@sparten320]

i dont know if you play video games but 2018 was also a really bad year for video games sure spiderman game did well but that doesnt address all the stuff that happens in the background of other companies

[@roboknightt04]

he loses HER aunt?

[@gravelfilledSoap]

Oof

[@rager5600]

@@roboknightt04 Fixed

[@fydeless4812]

Dude..... thanks for the spoiler alert. I haven’t finished Spider-Man ps4 yet. Really work on putting spoiler warnings.

[@KusogakiRenfir]

Not paying your rent = No powers.

[@darknightmike10yearsago]

You'll get your powers back once you pay this damn rent!

[@fishmat3017]

it is free comments not rent free comments

[@dellingerthefightingfish5213]

Give me rent

[@18idlesuggest]

@@darknightmike10yearsago you'll get your rent when you fix that damned door!

[@chickenwing123k7]

Haha probably steal his powers in his sleep

[@aratamyat6714]

This is, and still is, my favourite theory. It shows that peter is still a human, but a hero in helping himself and really should have been mentioned in the movie. The theory anit anything outlandish or extra, but a simple theory that makes Spider Man have so much more to think about and truly is a role model.

[@dafilmqueen556]

I love it when he said "turn people into spooky scary skeletons" in reference to the scene that has traumatized me since the first time I saw the first film. And I can't help but lose it when he says "give that man a Tony". 😅

[@dashever7345]

2009 - We will have flying cars i the future 2019 - We figured out why spiderman from 14 years ago lost his powers

[@jon_gia]

Not funny

[@jacobvt2317]

@@rakhoo5236 no u

[@ChestnutThing]

Wut

[@meltingstream3385]

Dash Ever 2002?

[@ChestnutThing]

@@meltingstream3385 yee

[@purplewaffles5480]

I think you meant "the boys", not the sinister six

[@samx23]

Uhh..

[@spartan113ish]

That shitty meme didn't exist when this video came out.

[@boeyzhang8565]

666

[@MrMetalStrike]

Is that a reference to the books/amazon prime show named “The Boys”?

[@glados8699]

Me and yhe boys deffeting spider man

[@LegoSpidermanFan]

I always viewed it somewhat similarly. I just saw it as he lost his will to be spider-man. He stopped being motivated to do it and his body responded. Movies kind of do that sometimes, like in revenge of the sith padme loses the will to live but it’s never really dived into

[@rayeittastay2458]

This episode actually helped me out a lot in my personal life. I liked that the topic of mental health was (theoretically) the focus of a superhero movie years before Tony Stark in Iron Man 3. I started researching depictions of mental health struggles and actual treatments used in the films, which led me to Cinema Therapy. If you don't know them, then you should go check them out. They talk about all types of things like how Edward and Jacob are totally abusive dickholes, to Aragorn being an idol of healthy masculinity. Hearing John and Alan talking about and even openly showing emotions made me start to take a serious look at myself. Which has then led me to making some pretty big revelations about myself. I won't go into much details but now I can say that I'm truly happy with my sexuality as an openly bisexual man. All of that, because I saw MatPat cover a topic that truly captured my attention and that's not a theory.

[@shizukousapostle1stapostle710]

2:29..... *If his powers wasn't working there.... That's definitely a cracked spine with lower body paralysis.*

[@THEJPIndustry]

Or death with Brocken neck

[@emmanuelperez1516]

Its more like they were flickering off

[@jacobaldrete487]

In other words he has *LUMBAGO*

[@shizukousapostle1stapostle710]

Hy I got a heart..... That's cool...

[@eidolor]

Makes sense, magic powers ED

[@amkamirin]

Jokes aside this is the most wholesome video about a superhero suffering from mental health I have ever seen. It may not the original intention of the director or it was either one this put in an even better depth of the Spiderman trilogy and made the second one (which it could be the best out of all three) even better than before.

[@plzletmebefrank]

You need to watch more videos about superheroes and mental issues. Cause ones that actually talk about it rather than presenting a theory and having a side objective of talking about the actual mental health stuff as well... Well, the point is one's that focus on the mental health and illustrations of the inner struggle of the hero exist.

[@klop4228]

@Veit Zeret As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the movie about PTSD, at the very least?

[@bernarda9084]

@@klop4228 there is, imagine being at fault or feeling at fault for the death of both your father figures. He has recurring dreams, and so on. Even in the comics, mental stress causes him to lose his power

[@kadennorris7585]

I cant belive that this theory was proved 2 years after this was uploaded. In Spider-Man No Way Home toby Miguire tells the other 2 spidies about how he lost his powers for a while, they asked why and he sayed AND I QUOTE "existential crisist"

[@therapywithsenny1449]

I like to think it’s like emotional ED. The night he lost his powers, all within 5 minutes MJ scolded and rejected him, Harry slapped him, John announced MJ had agreed to marry him, and Jonah made Peter photograph MJ and John kissing.

[@TheGap1952]

Spiderman 1: Peter trying to deal with the responsibilities of having great power and coming to terms with his uncle's violent death Spiderman 2: Peter trying to recover from PTSD while having to face a new villain and the alienation of his childhood love Spiderman 3: Jazz Dance

[@anthonyshepherd265]

A.H “now dig on this”

[@unoreversecard8129]

SpiderMan 4 - I don’t feel so gooooood

[@davidbrown8258]

Fire ring

[@suitingpizza1117]

Spider-man 3: finds out who his uncle's killer really was, was a doche when he hand the black suit, his Co worker gets killed and his best friend dies (I have watched the sam raimi spider-man moives so many time, I know what I am talking about)

[@arcticgaming6812]

spiderman 2: pizza time

[@moistfist1054]

I honestly thought he was gonna say something like "He lost his powers because he was not eating his own webs like a real spider"

[@yeeteryeeter3964]

Same XD

[@Emerald1]

Dragon King wtf

[@minimoose4574]

@@Emerald1 it's because real spiders they run out of webs so they eat it to re-use it again

[@kombaihound6199]

Gotta have that protein xD

[@manmadethings6986]

Oh fuck

[@FlyntPrince]

Great video! I never really stopped and thought about the mental health. Just goes to show you how well these films were made back then. I always thought it was a great "if this be my destiny" moment. Peter loses his powers and it was the people that brought him back. He cant stop a mugging, saves a child from a burning building, only to find out there was still one more person in there. MJ gets kidnap, fights doc ock on the train, finally saves the people and then it's the people that save him from falling off the train. That's when he knew this was his destiny. Saves the girl he loves and then shes at his doorsteps. MJ comforts him and makes him feel so secure and content with his life. Maybe that's why he was so arrogant and cocky in the third movie.. Love the rami films, I could watch them over and over again and still enjoy them

[@blasterbolt734]

Actually the reason for his power loss is because he didn't admit his feelings, and when he sees the one he loves in danger, that's how he gets his powers back

[@UserName-me7pj]

Bruh, this time you actually improved my childhood rather than brutally ripping it to shreds

[@UserName-me7pj]

@@ChickenNuggets-jf5uf shup ut noob, you mad cuz i got u xd

[@AceofHarmony]

Chicken Nuggets I shall eat da nuggets

[@SoulbroStudios]

What is going on in this thread? 😂

[@aadibelhe6957]

this is a copied comment guys

[@talir9349]

Please do a theory on how many balloons are needed for the Up house to fly

[@TonyRodriges]

That’s more of a SCIENCE (Austin of course) thing if you ask me

[@Kkmeow4]

K how many yt accts do you need me to make to like this so mat pat sees this cause I totally want this to happen

[@TonyRodriges]

@Fiverumble not insulted just very very disappointed 😔 (it’s ok we all got different opinions)

[@raleightutt7059]

I've done those calculations, actually, it's around 6 million

[@juanluisizboss5815]

OVER 9000!!!

[@joshuachristopher9752]

Existential crisis

[@HeyItsEquin]

I love how in the beginning instead of putting a real spider, so that people with arachnophobia dont get scared he got lucas instead

[@trav3226]

Harry: Spider-Man will pay Spider powers: sorry peter I need to save both of us

[@hiedemariebalundo5832]

Alternative comment: Harry: Spider-man will pay Spider powers: *aight imma head out*

[@brainlesswarrior657]

Noice 69 likes

[@karenevans2115]

@@brainlesswarrior657 heh

[@julieusc1076]

F

[@goodydrew3488]

Mat pat if Tobey Maguires Spider-Man universe was real you would definitely be a good therapist for Peter Parker

[@blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543]

Erick Mii not agreeing and thinking a theory is bad are two different things just so your aware.

[@SinisterPixel]

They actually address the reason why in Spider-Man 2 albeit very briefly. When Peter is talking to octavius about his love life, octavius mentions that matters of the heart can weigh a person down and manifest into physical weight. Both times he lost his powers were in direct response to complications with MJ.

[@amoghverma3108]

Even heroes suffer depression. I remember how Tony Stark used to cry in Pepper's arms in anxiety...

[@just-a-silly-goofy-guy]

He lost his powers when he felt not so good

[@bucket1442]

Too soon.

[@justan-eli9262]

But did we need a therory to tell us that? Thanks for confirming it but we kinda get it implied by his professor

[@SkyorSomethin]

To fast to meme

[@jackdam1882]

jep,realy stupid from him i mean i was a kid and understand it.

[@shadowa753]

@@justan-eli9262 I wish I just got this comment in my sub feed instead. Would have saved me nearly 15 mins

[@jimbojackson4045]

You forgot another traumatic event. Aunt Mae gets hospitalized by Gobby at his own house.

[@Doom-hd9of]

was that directly or indirectly correlated to himself (I'm genuinely asking idk)?

[@jimbojackson4045]

@@Doom-hd9of Yeah. Gobby found out who he was and did that to send a message. Then he went to kidnap MJ.

[@nkjellman]

Not to mention the events in the early part of the movie where Doc Oc showed up at the bank and kidnapped Aunt Mae and Spider Man had to save her.

[@someweirdcatontheinternet8590]

🗿

[@BrickArt-hk1or]

“Get dunked on Andrew Garfield!!!” Had me dying. You will be missed matpat

[@AASteve_Plasma]

When I was younger, I was also think about this "emotional trauma effect situation" to Peter's power and how he lost his power base on metal health ... Now MattPat detailed it more clear and more scientifical, added with nostalgia and theory :0

[@mr.romaro3422]

The real question in the movie is can you make and deliver 8 extra large deep dish pizzas across 42 blocks in New York in 29 minutes

[@plzletmebefrank]

... has anyone tried to figure this out? Cuz now I'm really curious.

[@PanthereaLeonis]

those 42 blocks, are they the total distance traveled in taxicab geometry? I believe you can, I just have to get my numbers straight. Also, I didn't watch the movies, what vehicle is he using? Ohh... I also ahve to factor in the traffic in New York. I assume this pizza delivery was in the evening, since that's when most people want their pizza.

[@plzletmebefrank]

@@PanthereaLeonis He had a moped.

[@plzletmebefrank]

And I don't remember any other answers to your questions, but the sun was up in that scene.

[@Konohamaru333]

@@PanthereaLeonis You're not taking into account the time it takes to make the pizzas

[@thushanipremarathne6566]

I kinda miss the old spider man. It kinda gives me a bit of nostalgia.

[@gamereaper5065]

Same

[@julieusc1076]

F

[@lvbboi9]

Its why I love spiderverse so much

[@VortexKiller2]

I liked Spider-Man 3. Fight me.

[@lvbboi9]

@@VortexKiller2 same

[@faisalabdurrahman2029]

in spiderman:no way home, tobey says before the finale battle that he couldn't use his powers because of "existensial dread"

[@leannkennett905]

Well in the comics Peter Parker looses his powers off and on for a while when he begins to mutate into the man/spider and Dr Connors has to help him return to his version of “normal”. They certainly could have been setting up for that.

[@just-a-silly-goofy-guy]

The lack of pizza time caused him to lose them

[@johnnyandjordan9208]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@glennquagmire4192]

Pizza time

[@chrisatherton7840]

lol

[@user-ex5mb7ff8r]

ي لى ا ضت

[@user-ex5mb7ff8r]

@@glennquagmire4192 هلاير

[@foresstfire23]

Peter Parker got Petey-SD

[@send-me-a-puffalope]

Heh

[@curiousgeorge5287]

Please leave

[@ezking2281]

Noice👌

[@drpepperismydad1592]

-_-

[@ezking2281]

Here before 100 likes

[@pepekovallin]

This video made me realize that my OC's tragic story and his psychology actually makes a lot of sense and I'm proud I made something solid without prior knowledge

[@victordelgado670]

Isn’t there a whole scene that explains why he lost his powers? When he’s a the doctors the doctor literally tells him he’s been over working himself and stressing him Self out

[@shaylus_4158]

The doctor doesn't know he has powers dumbass

[@victordelgado670]

@@shaylus_4158 he heavily implies that he knows dumbass

[@dennissaunders813]

I was thinking the exact same thing. It’s not spelled out in the movie(a lot of things in movies aren’t) but he tells the doctor “in my friends dream I’m Spider-Man” so I can’t imagine the doctor actually thinks a healthy 20-something year old man is looking for medical advice because of a friends dream.

[@marvelhunter3076]

Doc ock said that if he held love inside.. He would get sick, so he did. His love for mary jane deeply affected him.

[@andrewcooper1565]

That's honestly what I thought

[@imijbeats8129]

He should’ve had a love for a different Mary Jane, maybe he woulda been fine

[@onekthmatt]

This can still be true but coincide with the theory. He loves Mary Jane and wants to distance himself from her because he doesn't want to go through losing her like he did Uncle Ben, and her life was already threatened once. So she's both a part of his past trauma, and her well being is a huge focus of the anxieties that his PTSD brings about.

[@Herofromthesky]

Also I’m pretty sure that since he didn’t want to be Spider-Man anymore his powers went away.

[@leejohnstone9047]

Exactly

[@Kevzza]

He lost his powers when he doubted himself and his soul reason to be Spider-man. "If you keep something as complicated as love stored up inside.... it's gonna make you sick."

[@CEFG100]

spiderman11915 Yep

[@savefluffy1276]

Ha nerd (sorry I just wanted to say that)

[@Kevzza]

@@savefluffy1276 None taken!

[@oliveruwu5784]

spiderman11915 Your photo is so ironic

[@adamwood2988]

Yes there should t have been a video on this at all

[@lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198]

I'm rewatching the Spider-Man films and am on the second film and just wondered this question and remembered that matpat did a film theory on it! Thanks Matpat!

[@SilverMeg57]

I know it’s been a while, but I think him seeing Otto Octavius (his idol) turn into Doc Oct, just like Norman became Green Goblin might have also pushed that PTSD. Great theory as always.

[@marcusmacinnis8067]

matpat predicted what's happening to spider-man's "Peter Tingle" 6 months before far from home even came out

[@i8chocolatecake995]

Marcus MacInnis lol lol lol lol lol lol im ded

[@slovakianpsycho]

@Nathan Hannon aunt may called it Peter Tingle

[@logbobtom1234]

Nathan Hannon did you even watch the movie

[@cinimod1727]

I hate that it's called "Peter tingle"

[@AbruptEcho]

Don’t say peter tingle it’s disrespectful

[@armaanbal6005]

This video will get monetized when you fix this DAMN DOOR!!!

[@devingambler9685]

Armaan Bal you almost got me

[@MeoplleX]

XDDDD

[@fishspanker9472]

It free country but not rent free country

[@RubiksGaming18749]

Armaan Bal LOL

[@armaanbal6005]

Fish Spanker true my friend but u can buy me pizza sometime so we could have some Pizza Time.

[@rogueguardian]

You know I think this explained why spider-man always help me through hard moments in my life, he's literally gone through some of the same stuff I have, losing a family member being disconnected from Friends. I know what that feels like.

[@juniper3526]

The way he was actually right- they confirmed it in the new movie

[@norasehestedt9624]

I have been kinda waiting on a Mr. Bean theory. I mean, in the intro, he is an alien dropping from his ship, sooooooo......oh well. Mr. Bean will have to wait I guess........

[@Eric-dn9bx]

Wow now IM waiting for a Mr. Bean theory lmao.

[@MortyKaiShalom]

You know... I never considered that may have been a UFO...

[@sadkeo_]

Now i am

[@unit03]

YES for the Mr. Bean Theory!!! Why is he so socially unaware!!!?

[@spiderboyreal]

He became a superhero too. He was bitten by a spider plant. And so his cells mutated and became known as Spiderplant-Man

[@abelsm6270]

Marvel character: *breathes Matpat: WRITE THAT DOWN *WRITE THAT DOWN*

[@valenciageode25]

Yeah, I think he’s gone half-insane

[@karat617]

Water Sheep?

[@bluedogviking]

@@karat617 Well hello fellow 19 year old.

[@karat617]

blåhundvíking FLOOR GANG

[@bluedogviking]

@@karat617 FLOOR GANG were the largest gang.

[@kytkeyboardsyoureterrific439]

I rewatched this so many times but I finally liked it because it's so good and gives a nice lesson

[@eduardoluna3897]

"GET DUNKED ON ANDREW GARFIELD!" had me laughing so hard at the gym I had to stop lifting for a few minutes and everyone looked at me like I was crazy

[@RandomGuy9O9]

I have a good idea for a theory. How much money has Jim from the office spent through the nine seasons on pranking Dwight?

[@elisabethochoa1125]

Manis Tiwari loveeeeeee thisssss. Literally any office theory is a good theory in my book.

[@RandomGuy9O9]

Elisabeth Ochoa ya I just watched the office again and seeing all the pranks on Dwight, my inner theorist woke 😁😁

[@Ravathiel]

the cost of all of Jim's pranks to total a whopping $5,590.95 ] so Reddit says

[@cocopots]

@@Ravathiel and it was probably worth every penny.

[@dumbname939]

Elisabeth Ochoa I have an Office theory. What is the best printer? Ohhhhhhh you mean the show. I get it.

[@sohamk7962]

Peter lost his powers because of pizza time and got them back because of cake and milk. It was very obvious

[@wade-potato6200]

Do doooooooooo Do do do do do do do do do 'do' ·do· .do. .do... 'do' ·do· .do. .do...

[@Cj-xt6tv]

soham kochikar Best comment ever. 👏🏼

[@rungaterah1942]

I used to legit think it was the cake and milk that gave him his powers back.

[@Cj-xt6tv]

Rungatera H probably not the literal cake and milk but the sentiment that someone gave him cake and milk.

[@rungaterah1942]

@@Cj-xt6tv No, I legit thought it was the physical cake and milk. But yea the sentiment was present at the time which was really nice. 👍

[@justinarney3050]

well if you've read the comics a similar event does happen where Peter doesn't want to be Spiderman anymore and in doing so eventually loses his powers. This comic was made to represent Stan Lee's own troubles of wanting to give up on making comics before he made Spiderman.

[@rodrigobenavides9702]

the "He Has Memorized Mario's Height" part completly killed me

[@djseanyd91]

When you slowly realize MatPat not only diagnosed Peter with emotional trauma, but you as well...I need help 😔

[@smoovadatious2356]

Seriously, same here. however, if you can fight the depression and start working out, it helped me a lot!! It was really hard to actually get out and start, and I’m not really sure what it is about exercise, but that really helped my mental health. Also, start small by making sure to make your bed every morning. I know it sounds dumb and insignificant but it goes a long way. It gives you a small psychological boost to start your day. Once done, it releases a small amount of endorphins from completing a task. That’s why made beds are such a big thing in the military, it breeds discipline. Its your first task of day, and if you can’t complete that task ,how do you expect to complete the others of the day. And worse case scenario, if you have a bad day, you come home to a made Bed :) . Wish you the best stranger.

[@ITheLoZKingI]

Realizing that you need help is the first step to getting it. It's up to you to figure out and decide how to get it. Whether through self-care with exercise and such, or reaching out to others, friends, family, or even a therapist, I hope you find something that works for you. Conditions like yours, and like mine, are real issues, and it's okay to care about yourself and your needs.

[@anastasiaraelajynn]

I will be praying for you. While I don't know exactly what you're going through, I do know that Jesus will always be there for you, no matter what, no matter who else fails you. Just run to him. God bless.

[@lex.is.ordinary]

That was my exact thought.

[@beanface7408]

Sorry, I liked this comment just for you.

[@solantir3243]

The superhero's having their own problems in their life. Just like Stan Lee used to make them. I'm proud.

[@ProfesserUniverse]

#Excelsior

[@hadez908]

Disney sees this comment wait superheroes having their own lives and real life problems :REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@DavidWildmouth]

Superhero problems 🙄

[@simplebidnessman]

Right!

[@cookkabunggaming1569]

Thi video just shows u how nice spider man is after everything he’s been through he still makes jokes all the time.

[@bladelazar1262]

If you think about it Tobey himself confirmed that it was an existential crisis that caused him to temporarily lose his powers

[@ianis5631]

Could it be that peter unconsciously turned off his powers since he blamed himself and his powers on harry's dad's death? Could he have thought " if it weren't for these powers, harry's dad would stll be alive" and unintentionally turned them off?

[@ajaegamesshorts]

@Ren At His Prime kinda like he can stick and unstick to walls at will or barely thinking about it it just happens naturally

[@Butter-Milk]

That happened in the comics! The Amazing Spider-Man Annual issue 1. First apperance of the Sinister Six, I think.

[@HullsColby]

@Ren At His Prime I mean, his powers is very biological just like the old comics. You've seen Tom and Andrew's iteration right? The ones that follows the modern Spider-Man where they need gadgets so that they could use their powers properly.

[@doctorstrange2451]

Spider-Man was dependent on tech from the start his web shooters were always there. Organic web shooters didn't appear in comics until after the movies.

[@HullsColby]

@@doctorstrange2451 What about the time he did have organic webbings in the comics? Was that after the Sam-Raimi movies?

[@mustafabarry4719]

This is 10 years late, but can matpat do a film theory on the movie Coraline?

[@tay7300]

I'd agree

[@didgy8674]

I dispiced that movie

[@SPcamert]

If there's one thing I've learned it's that there is no statute of limitations on theories.

[@ugandanknuckles9355]

Just watch _The Theorizer_ he's already done it and to a much better extent than mat does from reddit.

[@rotodexthepaleontologist2267]

that one dude You what now? Dispiced? Took away the spice?

[@mudalad1215]

Cannonically, MCU cannonically, it was only a web blockage caused by an existential crisis.

[@evanbailey5858]

I didn’t see this video when it first came out but I’m glad I can come back with good timing too

[@Lightning5717]

Hey, MatPat... Speaking of the Green Goblin, can you do a theory on his Goblin Glider? On whether if something like that could exist and work like in the movies/comics?

[@andrepopcorn4356]

Dont they have something like that in France now or something

[@iarooz2189]

@@andrepopcorn4356 Yeah, its a new weapon in their military.

[@TainoMoya]

that intro was beautiful. It was what I expected and more.

[@yukyo3226]

Tai Moya it was so beautiful that my KZbin decided to crash

[@t.lanfield1936]

Theory-man! Theory-man!

[@williamklemp3764]

Ok,so I know this is outta left field, and super late, but Peters Doctor ABSOLUTELY knows Pete is Spiderman, and is totally chill with it, even keeping the secret so well even Pete doesn't know he knows 😂

[@kudzaidhodho]

What Mat-Pat is saying here is really fleshed out in the Into the Spiderverse short on anxiety.

[@spider-man3820]

2:06 , unsolved for the past 17 years, even though Spider-Man 2 was released in 2004, this video must be from the future.

[@frostbite6010]

He used pizza time

[@AngelFlipz]

@@frostbite6010 big brain comment

[@BauttAlt]

No the day has past since it was released

[@Exxioz]

@@BauttAlt r/woooosh

[@amlan2483]

Time travel exists

[@Jedihho]

Actually, it was explained in the movie. Peter loses his powers from self-doubt and losing his purpose. And as Dr.Octavius says "If you keep something as complicated as love stored up inside it's gonna make you sick." He struggles throughout the movie with a choice to be Spider-Man and take responsibility, or live the easy life and get the girl. And he chooses the easy life, and this makes his powers take a back seat. He chooses this path, after discussing his "dream" with the doctor, and the doctor explains that maybe he shouldn't be Spider-Man. And he doesn't take back the mantle of the wall-crawler until Aunt May's speech, there's a hero in all of us. And after he saves a little girl from a burning building, but fails to save someone else, he realizes he has to take responsibility and be Spider-Man. When he jumped off of the roof to test his powers again, they don't immediately kick in, but the moment he needs to save the life of the woman he loves; his power kicks back into overdrive. And I think this is a good explanation of why he lost his powers, that is explained in the movie itself. :) (I enjoyed the intro btw) Edit: Yes, his theory goes a little more in depth, to what happens in the movie. However, he acts like it never gets explained in the movie, and it is a mystery to the audience. 2:01 ^_^

[@SebasTian58323]

I was thinking this myself

[@justanordinarycritic4953]

Not surprisingly the reason for it that is explained in the film is something he just seemingly forgot about.

[@SebasTian58323]

@@justanordinarycritic4953 he even mentioned the doctor that told him that

[@justanordinarycritic4953]

I mean, what do we honestly expect from Matt, a guy who seems to only be able to make half baked theory’s that are easily debunk able.

[@justanordinarycritic4953]

I really hope MagnaKamen does a video on this video.

[@thegoldmario4879]

I love that you subtitle all your videos :))))

[@x3Rmal]

The neighbor girl's name is Ursula and she treats Peter much better than MJ.

[@redraptorwrites6778]

This was explained in the movie and is pretty straight forward. Spider-Man was ruining Peter's life. He stopped believing in himself and Uncle Ben's lesson of responsibility. Peter was losing himself and the will to go on, therefore causing him to lose his super-human abilities. It isn't until he re-accepts his responsibility by rejecting MJ that he gets them back.

[@rew1677]

Yea also in spider man the spider verse.miles has to calm down to stop sticking

[@ericdxfan511]

You'll be surprised how much the power loss subplot went over peoples heads.

[@ccole99]

Red Raptor Writes my friends and I always look back at that movie realizing that he just couldn’t get it up!!! He lost his ability to keep it up!!! It wasn’t until the woman that you know he’ll do anything for was in danger... He had to realize that he never lost the ability to get it up he just had to realize he still could do it!!!

[@mumblegrumblejumble1524]

I always saw the fact that in the movie Peter loses his powers as a consequence of him rejecting his powers and not wanting to be Spiderman anymore, I never really questioned it, but this gave me a new interesting look on the movie! Really fun theory! I think I'm gonna subscribe!

[@torennovotny94]

HE'LL YEAH MAT PAT NEEDS MORE SUBS HE'S NOT POPULAR ENOUGH

[@DannyConeHeadOnceLer]

Exactly! He might be suffering from the pressure and stress from all things he had to go through

[@danyaelle1753]

You didn't have to do gwen Stacy like that matpat. 'cue flashback and tears'

[@lemonlethief6238]

In spider-man no way home Sam Raimi Peter Parker said the only way his webs can get "web blocked" is existential dread basically, no way home confirms this

[@qtulhoo]

*Theory-Man, Theory-Man!* *Does whatever a theorist can!* *Spots details, with his eyes!* *He's got stories, to theorize!* *Look out! Here comes the Theory-Man!* *(*Trumpets*)* *Uses words, doesn't fight!* *("Can't we agree to disagree?")* *He has memorized, Mario's height!* *In the theories, in his head,* *Can say that the character's dead!* *("THEY WERE DEAD THE WHOLE TIME!")* *Look out! Here comes the Theory-Man!* **Episode Title**

[@speedypichu6833]

Pichu! (Great job on matpat for making that and great job on you for putting the lyrics in the comment, it is appreciated)

[@wandaellis9130]

That is AMAZING😎

[@icouldntthinkofaname155]

"Ness the skeleton!?" Or, "Spidey is a bad guy!?*

[@gplgs4640]

When movies come out With a plothole to be found He will sniff them out As if he were a bloodhound! Theory-Man Theory-Man Friendly internet Theory-Man Monetised? He’s ignored Facts and logic’s his reward To him, If it’s a game or a show When it has details to know You’ll find the Theory Man!!

[@ogslegacy7703]

The Rockstar Gamer *THEOY MAN THEOY MAN WAS SNAPPED AWAY LOOOK OUT THANOS ISSSS COMMMMMINGGG*

[@Kadz]

It’s theory time

[@d29studios4]

When you only get 2 likes

[@shiverbim4920]

@@d29studios4 But owns a verified channel

[@shiverbim4920]

F

[@inky3678]

If I controlled theory’s I would want *fortnite* and FNAF

[@tamo3813]

this video wasn’t bad like most of his recent ones

[@GaPeach87]

Can we all just talk about how the old Movies are SO GOOD? I personally think we needed more lore to this giant Pizza. Can we get origin Movies for EVERY SUPERHERO?!

[@Fall3nFlame]

0:22 that had me laughing