Film Theory: This is NOT A Batman Movie! (The Batman Trailer 2021)

[@The_Grox]

What he got right from his theory - The movie is heavily inspired by seven and zodiac - riddler actually won cause he achieved most of his goals - batman and riddler are both representing gotham's vengeance but they took different path What he got wrong - batman breaking his no killing rule - the court of owl

[@blaster1185]

idk about breaking the no killing rule especially in that car chase, but also no two-face

[@The_Grox]

@@blaster1185 the car chase its not really him killing.. but it does show that this young batman is still pretty sloppy with his crime fighting gig

[@noahjordan6761]

I actually think the court of owls was referenced in regards to the club, but Im not entirely sure if my memory was correct. There was no direct appearance though.

[@a.ychristian3562]

He partly got the killing rule right, the stadium fight he nearly kills one of the riddler goons until he's pried off by Gordon, not until he hears him say "I'm vengeance" does he realise his wrong path

[@Snavels]

@@blaster1185 Penguin causes the crashes, Batman just used it as a ramp

[@matthewm1485]

Matpat: wants to be Robin His parents: starts sweating

[@ajmccorristin1125]

I don't think Daimion's parents are dead.

[@maggiethedruid9010]

@@ajmccorristin1125 more than one Robin

[@zoarsnowpaw3549]

@@ajmccorristin1125 it's not his parents he is talking about, also there has been more then one robin, and it's not about robins parents dying its about him dying, both Jason Todd and Damian Wayne have died and have been brought back to life

[@grandpamuto1338]

Aj McCorristin his parents is batman and talia

[@Bluearcher1600]

He could be tim, It would make sense since time is a detective more then the other robins

[@alfymurillo-poohjitsu7062]

POV: you just watched the Batman in the past day or two and are seeing how close MatPat was to getting it right

[@VSiFer]

Accurate

[@lmao0109]

Yep, just did

[@kingkrool1778]

For doing this theory a year ago, he isn’t far off

[@lueysixty-six7300]

How close was he, ppl who have seen it...?

[@lunabear1114]

@@lueysixty-six7300 give me 16 minutes I'll get back to you. Highly recommend this movie I loved it.

[@Angrygoblin743]

Well as someone who just watched this movie today. He’s not entirely wrong

[@anirudhgupta2570]

yep

[@amaruperales6771]

Ong 💀

[@vonwatiki2198]

he did kinda lose

[@hugewang69]

@@vonwatiki2198 the city flooded, so I’d say he kinda lost.

[@alicealpiste]

Ikr

[@バモス東海]

I love how they stayed true to Batman not killing someone but just giving them lifelong brain damage

[@SuperShanko]

That poor guy will never be the same again.

[@benedapal7987]

@@SuperShanko poor sod is going to have to have everything in smoothly format 😂😂💯💯

[@savagegamer81013]

Hey look the bots are invading mat pat’s space too

[@not_drake5620]

I love how you stole this comment

[@landoplayz9774]

He straight up murdered joker once

[@sapphireous1083]

*Film Theory* : They don't actually have a full script, they release a trailer, wait for MatPat to make a theory of the script, then they use that script for easy stonks

[@nanisarkar8246]

The perfect Plan!

[@chantos14]

It’s free real estate

[@frescoakash]

I'm convienced

[@feignedphantom]

@@MtnDewGuy100 nope, not interested🤣🤡

[@zukoshonour5964]

@@feignedphantom why not there giving books for free

[@ChaseFilmsProductions]

Of course Robert isn’t playing “Batman” He’s playing Vengeance

[@ehi_ij]

No he’s playing a vampire.... *get it?*

[@jackm.7094]

vGodFN just stop. No ones going to subscribe to a bot

[@god3538]

Ehi IKR 🤣 also I just checked your channel I thought it was pretty funny you just earned a sub 👍.

[@ChaseFilmsProductions]

Ehi yeah

[@ChaseFilmsProductions]

Ehi vengeance the vampire

[@THEJPIndustry]

Okay so after watching the movie, the spoilerfree answer is: Some points where right, but he also got stuff wrong

[@karvenman]

Most of it

[@jordanogplayer5247]

I loved the movie so much

[@THEJPIndustry]

@@jordanogplayer5247 same, it had a bit of weak sides, like the parent story was just awefully confusing. But the rest was 10/10

[@karvenman]

@@THEJPIndustry here's what I gathered A reporter uncovered mysteries of Thomas Wayne so Thomas wanted him to stop but he didn't so he went to falcone for help and by going to falcone he accidentally killed the reporter and he wanted to turn himself in to the police But was killed, before he died he had a renewal project and since he died he didn't rule the project anymore, people went for the project to rule over it to get money from the project

[@THEJPIndustry]

@@karvenman well the renewal project was 1billion Falcon took it and used it to control the city. But what was confusing was the story about the mother that the dad wanted to be left in secret From what i understood : Spoilerwarning The mother of the mother of Bruce was abused by her father then killed her father infront of Bruce mother than killed herself and than Bruce mother had to be in a few Psychiatries. But that was so Confusingly told i have no idea

[@TheTrashMobileGamer]

DC : "Write that down...write that down this fool is making us millions again"

[@s14hh]

lol

[@Garro0]

Your comment made my day!!

[@mehoymenoy8841]

Why make billions, when we can make... millions...

[@Human_traain]

@@mehoymenoy8841 and trillions

[@theantagonist2589]

@@mehoymenoy8841 million is smaller than billion...

[@cblanks6207]

DC: Quick change the script mat pat made a theory

[@letsrank9349]

Write that down!! Write that down!!

[@arialtheunethical]

@@letsrank9349 lol I was going to make this comment.

[@Idkwhattoputlmaoejjdjsdn]

Wait so DC watches MatPat

[@andrewmarcelo3425]

They dont watch matpat they stalk him

[@idksomerandomguyontheinter2875]

We need to make him wrong

[@thestarwarsbros6131]

Film Theory: This is NOT A Batman Movie Me: Why am I not surprised.

[@WaterMeLoan64]

That Title is confusing.

[@airos7584]

It's not a Batman movie, cuz it's *The* Batman movie.

[@bryanmunoz775]

vGodFN stfu

[@endgameisbad2733]

Me: goes into KZbin comment section People like you: I’m gonna make a confusing scripted comment Me: *boom boom

[@endgameisbad2733]

vGodFN of course buddy, I’ll hit you up now

[@winston.neville]

This was lowkey close. You were almost spot on, other than a few details, beside the owls bit. Not bad considering it was a year ago

[@profbfc]

Could be revealed in later movies that the court was in fact behind a lot of it.

[@hugewang69]

@@profbfc it needs to happen, I’m wearing my court of owls mask when it comes out

[@owyemen9367]

@@profbfc I mean falcone is pretty close to it and owls do have wings

[@BezddDakota]

I am shocked by close he was able to guess by a trailer tbh

[@alfalfa872]

not really at all, his whole theory is based around the court of owls, riddler being a failed talon, batman killing someone. He was not almost spot on, nothing about batman turning into a symbol of hope rather than vengence, nothing about riddler expecting batman to join him etc. Could you explain how he was "almost spot on"?

[@theomorsdorf5897]

"Wonder womans new movie still looks promising" Well that didn't age well

[@suicidebxmber1234]

LOL I come from his WW84 review and thought the same when I heard that; that comment aged like milk.

[@shahanahsan05]

@@suicidebxmber1234 lol

[@00ghostcobra]

LOL!!!

[@chronoarcadia3437]

Facts, real talk, I felt that, i died. Bruh, big oof. Etc.

[@metricmiler9940]

Yeah

[@thebossyelephant9986]

MatPat: *Calls The Suicide Squad the dumbest naming convention since Wii U* New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe: *Sweats profusely*

[@endgameisbad2733]

My mom said if I could get 3k likes on my newest video she’ll buy me a professional setup so I could upgrade my content. Please please all I ask is for a like. Please and thank you 🚂

[@jasongarman]

Nintendo really does have an impressive flair for naming, don't they?

[@brubearto]

Any revised version of a CAPCOM fighting game would like to have a word.

[@ncrtrooper1782]

Evil Dead (2013): *Laughs without "The"*

[@ncrtrooper1782]

@@endgameisbad2733 no.

[@PrinceVegeta2134567]

"7 key characters" Commissioner Gordon: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@TheRezro]

Gordon was always unofficial sidekick, not a side.

[@OmegaX9]

Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson & Heath Ledger: No, but you could be...

[@livingcorpse5664]

He was always a supporting character.

[@Skullkaiser]

He isn't commissioner yet. During years two and three it was Commissioner Savage.

[@durttheelder4035]

@@Skullkaiser is savage the executioner or is that someone else?

[@SleepyPathos]

You’re lying if you say that Edward Nygma from Gotham wasn’t the best (current) incarnation of the Riddler. He’s neurotic, casually okay with murder, and opens just about every conversation with a quick riddle almost too fast to process. His acting is fantastic, and he perfectly portrayed an “almost-but-not-quite psychopath”.

[@amplifi3dgaming608]

MatPat: I'm gonna set a new record and predict this plot a FULL YEAR EARLY New Rockstars: Am I a joke to you??

[@matthewsherriff1469]

There it is :D I was looking for this specific comment

[@Cobra-Commander83]

I'm suprised he didn't mention Eric's break down of both of the riddles, and all of the hints.

[@matthewsherriff1469]

@@Cobra-Commander83 possibly a little toooo on the nose :p haha

[@バモス東海]

YES

[@ercanciftci1907]

what did they predict correctly a year ahead?

[@LilUki]

Fun fact about The Suicide Squad: James Gunn pitched the title as a joke and Warner bros actually liked it and used it

[@jondoe853]

What, suicide squad has existed since 1960, what are you talking about

[@jdproductions3588]

John Dew Think he’s talking about “The” Suicide squad, not the name itself.

[@TheRezro]

​@@jdproductions3588 To be honest I sort of like it... we do have Aliens after all :D

[@teigancarter93]

I like it. It sound like it’s talking about THE suicide squad aka James gunns comic book inspired version not the last suicide squad which was barely connected to a comic

[@pinkluver7715]

@@TheRezro Aliens following Alien was a creative title play in the day, whereas in the age of the 21st century we have to be a lot more creative with the titles, especially when the prequel was lackluster. Also Alien 3 was both crap as a movie and badly named compared with its prequels.

[@PlumyBear]

Can we all just take a second to think about what Matpat’s seach history looks like?

[@nbnowl]

**Knock knock knock** *FbI oPeN uP!*

[@FangzwithaZ]

They're not talking about

[@TrueREAL]

nah

[@forsakenfish]

"How to masturbate the scientific way"

[@sergio5827]

“What’s the amount of force needed to break human bones?”

[@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace]

I'll call this partially correct. While it was very much a Batman movie, unlike the title of your video, you were sort of right with "Batman will lose" He didn't see Riddler's big plan until the vans were exploding. He may have had a huge role in putting the Riddler in Arkham, and did stop the bloodbath Riddler had planned, but he didn't see Riddler's endgame until Gotham was being flooded.

[@spaghettboy6883]

Matpat: Mentions court of owls Me: Gotham flashbacks

[@pearbear3281]

Lol same 🤣

[@outthepark5766]

Same with Carmine to me

[@AxxLAfriku]

Let me get this straight: You comment something that is unrelated to the fact that I have two DANGEROUSLY DASHING girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest KZbinr ever, having two hot girlfriends is really incredible. Yet you did not mention that at all. I am quite disappointed, dear pasta

[@saladtop8499]

AxxL uh what? And who asked?

[@pearbear3281]

@@outthepark5766 yea, I think it triggered a nerve or somethin

[@charlestrotter6789]

“This is ACTUALLY a movie based off of FNAF 2, and here’s how....”

[@awesomedragon16]

Xd

[@user-si1vp5qi7g]

I would whole heartedly be convinced lmao

[@cjpanda1017]

No, no it isn’t. It’s based off of the comics.

[@sebastiansantana2447]

@@cjpanda1017 naw

[@em5345-]

@@cjpanda1017 r/woooosh

[@OmegaX9]

Just to tempt fate, let’s actually take it a step further in the Se7en comparison and do the match-ups: Wrath: Batman, because “I am vengeance!” Greed: Catwoman, because she loves shiny things and hasn’t fought Batman enough times yet to have an interest in his “utility belt.” Envy: Riddler, because he sees himself as Batman’s friend and equal. Pride: The Court of Owls, because they’ve been running Gotham for centuries. Sloth: Falconers, the old gangster who’s let supervillains take over. Gluttony: Penguin, because he keeps eating up territory for himself Lust: Two-Face, because he represents Harvey Dent’s darkest desires set free (and because giving Catwoman Lust seems like too easy an out) EDIT: To everyone who's commented "What about Chatacter X?" or "Character Y is not in this movie", I made this based off of the characters MatPat listed in the video. There are plenty of Batman characters who are better fits to the 7 Deadly Sins (Envy is obviously Clayface) but these 7 were the ones MatPat used so I wanted to build on his theory.

[@emilywhite9549]

This is a really good match up, nice

[@tasjosh9119]

Cool

[@InktheImpassive]

I wondered why the name is "the court of owls" then I remembered a DC alternate universe where Bruce has a brother and became Owlman.

[@tabinekoman]

Lust should be poison ivy.

[@grottyband8052]

Nice

[@Alcatraz411]

Just saw the movie, parts of this were right now but not all the way. Hope to see another theory on this movie

[@sergiopillay5737]

About 30% correct

[@tanyanikolaevagizdova6571]

@@sergiopillay5737 Which is impressive given when this theory was made!

[@Hk-ox4bb]

Batman: I am vengeance Also Batman in Batman vs Robin: Justice, not Vengeance

[@haicoai6269]

yeskzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@superstag]

That's because he hasn't reached that moral experience at this point of Battinson's career...

[@normansmith9009]

this is a young batman, and usually, his drive for vengeance fades as years go by

[@Batnano]

i'm vengeance,i am the the night, i'm Batman

[@whoknows7968]

@@normansmith9009 lets hope so, dc's movie Batman has had a lot of unpredictable angst so far.

[@genre_bbx188]

Title: "This is not a batman movie" Me: *Wondering why the movie is called Batman*

[@Luke-gs6kz]

i think he means that its a copy of seven

[@jcsmovies8589]

It's called The Batman which is something someone that isn't batman would say.

[@ninjalite7882]

I think he meant it was not going to be the kind of Batman movie we're all used to. Like how the Joker movie's portrayal of the character was different from what we were used to.

[@shahanahsan05]

It’s THE BATMAN

[@supergamertv8293]

ikr

[@cashin8040]

Why do I feel that I've just watched a spoiler video, without it actually being a spoiler video.

[@Kade_Kapes]

As a Batman fan, I think he was wrong on this one.

[@jackolenski2884]

He’s almost always wrong

[@speeddigitalart5788]

@@jackolenski2884 nah, almost all the time he's almost right and sometimes right.

[@jackolenski2884]

@@speeddigitalart5788 when’s the last time he’s been right? He said the new Batman film is going to be exactly like se7en. His only evidence is joker which was kinda like another movie.

[@ftarmani7905]

@@jackolenski2884 I mean right or wrong it’s always just a “theory”. It’s more interesting at seeing the conclusion he’s made and the evidence and reasoning that gets him there

[@joke.n.d2384]

Alright, seeing the movie a year later I say he got a solid 30-40% right in a sense but ultimately they made a well crafted and meticulous movie with way more twists and turns that he could account for

[@SirCavas]

He got the obvious trailer things right and everything else he guessed wrong. The story is the exact opposite of what he predicted, the characters wrong and the whole final message/arc too.

[@r.a.m.7209]

Everyone: I think he nailed it. Matt Reeves: Go on... **writing intensifies**

[@CoolMyron]

Im pretty sure the movie is based on the comic, A LONG HALLOWEEN

[@savscer7515]

@@CoolMyron I believe he just said that was just one of many inspirations, I don't know if he actually said "based off" however im sure some website made that claim.

[@dustinthewind4516]

Cool Myron IT IS! That’s what I’ve been trying to flipping say! Matt said it himself that The Riddler is the stand in for the Holiday Killer.

[@tanuki01]

If he did nail it, that would be the proverbial nail in Cinematic Batman being remotely recognizable compared to the spirit of Batman as he has come to be

[@richtifilmpalast5373]

It takes a lot from TDK first.. and somehow it reminds me a bit of the "Gotham" TV series regarding it's ton. No?

[@MrMysteryman00]

DC: They figured it out, we gotta do 4 months of retakes.

[@somersault1123]

SUBVERTED EXPECTATIONS.

[@drawdebono77]

You give a lot of credit to the stupidity of this kid. The film is not even 25% recorded and if Pattison dies of COVID, may never be finished. Don't hope for Robert Pattison to die, but would be nice that this movie would never see the light.

[@glo1168]

Edward Alvarez Christ Edward

[@thepillowhead2453]

@@drawdebono77 Dude..get off the internet. Actually, get off the world.

[@brandondaniels2027]

At risk of sounding like a complete moron: What if when Riddler tells Batman "You're apart of this too" he means because Batman only takes down low-level thug criminals instead of the corrupt elite of Gotham, he is unknowingly allowing the corrupt high status individuals in the system to continue to function behind the scenes.

[@Naruku2121]

I don't know, if it was year one and he stuck to petty thugs or something maybe, but if this is truly a detective driven story it's not a stretch for him to already know there's higher corruption. The issue then becomes how far reaching and deep it is.

[@royanque8374]

The "you'll see" response in the end doesnt seem to add up with your theory... But HEY...

[@brandondaniels2027]

@@royanque8374 it could be the Riddler telling Batman that he will see how far the corruption of Gotham goes after he exposes them and/or kills them. Hence the "you'll see". In all honesty I am kind of just grasping at straws at this point haha

[@fairday2]

The teacher in me cannot let apart take the place of a part. "I will take him apart" is different from" I will give his hair a part."

[@thomasjuniardi3559]

Dude....Batman vigilante activity itself are corruption 😁

[@theepicbroski5691]

12:30 I like how he said it was the final scene in the movie even though it was one of the first scenes.

[@pr0gr4mm3d8]

The real way riddler will break batman by telling him that his parents were also involved in gotham's corruption becasue in the comics the Wayne's have some relation with the court of owls

[@Bowiiihowdy]

The tell tale batman series had this story line where Bruce's dad was neck deep with the mob

[@sam-psonsmith9951]

would be interesting if in the end, the murder of his parents was an act of revenge from somebody who was severely wronged by their crimes. maybe even lost his/her own family members. and left their child alive, because they couldn't do it out of their moral. Making the person who killed his parents, a better person than they were. the kind of person batman would protect, against people like his parents.

[@sullivandmitry1416]

Depends. The new incarnations have them with the court of owls. In the older comics he was slightly connected to the falcone crime family.

[@jrkularatne2900]

Sullivan Dmitry it could be a possibility I mean they were also rich

[@kubobetterrelax7435]

If they take it away, what motivation does he have to fight crime? Because hes a good person? It would virtually break all his character building

[@longer_shlonger]

MatPat: "I'm gonna do what is called pro gamer move by spoiling the movie before it even got released" What a mad lad

[@mr.helhel9514]

I know!!

[@atonedmusic547]

What a “MatPat”

[@DarkSalamander0]

These guys keep evolving every year

[@haicoai6269]

T yeskzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@RavynMad121]

Dude he’s topped even that. He’s spoiling the movie before it’s even bloody finished 😆

[@Roachytheking]

I have a theory: Batman’s secret identity is Bruce Wayne

[@Mirrorcomics24]

No that’s impossible it has to be Clark Kent

[@princezuko9430]

Yeah right, are you telling me the butts match?

[@heartonfire5406]

Guys I think it will probably be barry allen tho

[@juansofly3916]

My disappointment is immeasurable. I thought he's Edward Scissorhands😄

[@tutigseg]

Bruce Wayne? Nah he seems to be too much of a coward for me and also he is too busy with his money to dress like a Bat

[@lewistaylor679]

After the second trailer dropped, The Court of Owls is even more likely to appear, since Bruce Wayne's dad was a part of it in some comics and there's that one scene where batman stands in the middle of a circle and in one of the sides it's written 'My father's sins'. Good one, Matpat!

[@L0SHU]

Well most of our theories went down the drain lmao

[@jakemcbased175]

@Dhiraj K. Sharma heh.

[@krisvelivia]

@Dhiraj K. Sharma Cry about it.

[@Alexarose06]

@Dhiraj K. Sharma that's why I love living in Mexico City

[@Paxton365]

@Dhiraj K. Sharma Did you know that the court of owls actually make absolutely no appearance in the film? Also, Batman dies.

[@ivanwilliams7413]

It's not Two-Face, it's Mad Hatter. Those twins are identical and red-headed, so they're more likely Tweedle-Dee and Dum.

[@merkury4626]

That seems more agreeable, we haven’t got a movie with the Mad Hatter yet

[@drakocarrion]

Could be 2 of the 3 Jokers

[@froggysin]

I so so hope so! I was thinking about how cool it would be to get Mad Hatter finally in a movie.

[@a_wooper3528]

Ah, good ol’ jervis tetch, I remember him from Arkham city

[@AndereundIch]

i know its weird but somehow i want Hush to be in the Movie

[@WraithTDK]

"Most spoiled moment in movie history?" Luke's father would like a word with you.

[@zaam5506]

“No, I am your father” “NOOOOO!”

[@bridgettegross4110]

Dumbeldore's killer would also like to talk.

[@bigchungus7050]

@@zaam5506 he never actually says luke

[@chasedean4032]

Snape kills Dumbledore

[@carlosfer2201]

@@zaam5506 No, I am your father*

[@bricefoxx3402]

Film name is batman: THIS IN NOT A BATMAN MOVIE Ah, yes the floor isn't made of floor

[@jaderush4141]

Well duh, the floor is lava, everyone knows that.

[@tannerholmes1587]

True. The "Floor" isn't made of Floor. It's made of Tile, Wood, Concrete, etc.

[@alaiaomanu6318]

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[@JosephZaidan-tf2vu]

Alaia Omanu i don’t dare click

[@LetsSaboogi]

LMAO

[@jamiehoneycutt4865]

Two face wasn’t in it, court of owls weren’t in it, his moral code was not broken. In fact it was actually enhanced, realizing vengeance isn’t the answer, he ends the movie saving civilians. & People are saying “how close Matpat was to getting it right…” that’s just a nice way of saying he was wrong.

[@Flaris]

I did like how his moral code was further affirmed. He definitely missed a lot on this one. That’s fine, but no point pretending he was close.

[@dyl.p9743]

To be fair 2 Face was a technically in it, sure it was for like 2 minutes at the end of the movie but he was in it.

[@naiosms5816]

@@dyl.p9743 I thought that was the joker..

[@WillGoslee]

@@dyl.p9743 no he wasn’t

[@dyl.p9743]

@@naiosms5816 honesty might’ve been, I was really tired by the end of the movie

[@1stAid]

"This is NOT a Batman movie!" Then why is there a sketchy man dressed as a bat running around beating people to a pulp?

[@leonardbernardo2145]

I think what he meant is that this movie will not really focus on batman per se. It might revolve around riddler with batman as a mere plot device.

[@TheRezro]

@UCb12Drse9qB8rfNbABjP3AQ Yeh, I kind of consider this statement as ironic.

[@CoolMyron]

thats man bat

[@sampepper7682]

@@CoolMyron I CAN'T HELP I CAN'T BREATH

[@CoolMyron]

@@sampepper7682 sorry?

[@dylanwashere616]

Matpat: predicts entire movie The Producers: "He's too dangerous to be kept alive!"

[@pleadingnut]

lets change the movie completely

[@dylanwashere616]

@@pleadingnut if they want my money at the cinema, they better

[@kovacthesaggy4014]

DC gonna send their assassins to snuff Matpat before we know it

[@KingYote]

Everyone: Why send a Tesla into space Mr. Musk? Elon Musk: “Because I’m Batman!”

[@dohnuts7637]

KingYote Gaming hishe

[@KingYote]

@@dohnuts7637 Exactly.

[@lincolnacn2287]

Now ur bringing hishe into this?? this is now an epic comment thread!

[@endgameisbad2733]

My mom said if I could get 3k likes on my newest video she’ll buy me a professional setup so I could upgrade my content. Please please all I ask is for a like. Please and thank you 🚂

[@edmardisla8492]

I wonder what SCP he was containing...

[@Chris-se3nc]

Too many villains? Spiderman no way home: hold my beer

[@joughnut496]

Inevitable “well this aged well” comment a year early

[@colorweaver5070]

Ironic enough that response works both ways I don't know if you did that on purpose

[@thaias9654]

I bet this will age well.

[@IcyDiamond]

Yeah lol

[@jadenramos4030]

Slothster 0612 200th like

[@riode1435]

Well he didn’t do too good with Star Wars theories just saying

[@CastTerror5]

2019: Joker isn't "THE JOKER" 2021: Batman isn''t "THE BATMAN" lol what???

[@springfox6470]

What next 2023:flash isn’t flash or green lantern isn’t green lantern or whatever dc superhero/villain movie is next

[@exwhyzgaming8996]

@@springfox6470 Captain Marvel isnt Captain Marvel. She is Captain Marvel

[@ChemAndAdrenaline]

Joker was about the guy who inspired Batman's Joker. At least, that's how I interpreted it.

[@thatbrownchild9922]

ChemAndAdrenaline i’ve heard that theory, but honestly i wouldn’t like that at all. Phoenix was a great joker and i’d rather see him than anyone else play him. It’s also a new universe so they created their own origin story and their version of the joker. Tbh i don’t think there should be a squeal but if there is i hope phoenix is the joker

[@callmecracked6929]

@@thatbrownchild9922 @ChemAndAdrenaline It is basically an alternate universe, or could be. It is called DC Dark, one of the multiverse. He is not the joker from comics, or joker form the DC Film Universe. This takes heavy inspiration from the comics, sure. Bruce's Early batman fighting days. That joker is a different joker, but again... There is 3 jokers...

[@Speckwal]

Dear Team Film Theorists, something’s been bothering me for quite a while now and maybe you can find the answer... How freaking rich are Roger and Anita (from 101 Dalmatians) to provide food for this amount of dogs EVERYDAY. I mean... how much food is it anyway? I have ONE cat and it’s a fair amount of money I have to spend per month, to provide food. I‘m just so curious, because if one cat is semi expensive (if you feed the good stuff) then how much must ist cost to provide for 101 dogs? Greetings from the other side of the pond

[@agatat6767]

Not even mentioning that Roger is portrayed to be a starving musician, yet is somehow able to live in a large apartement in the center of London...

[@anyathepanther7977]

Well, at the end of the movie, Roger suggests that they should become breeders. Im not saying that that makes alot of money, but some shelters and breeders get donations, so that could be of some help.

[@sadieeeee23]

Agata T yeah it makes no sense! i need an explanation

[@Ian-ph9ie]

@@agatat6767 yes

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Check out my batman theory video brah

[@ATHBizarre]

You say his moral code was broken, but it was pretty much fixed by the end of the film, becoming a symbol of hope, not fear.

[@dinha10ok]

I'll tell you what: young Bruce is about to find out that his sacred parents were criminals.

[@letsrank9349]

Oohh, that would be cool!

[@RooftopRose079]

Honestly, I'd love to see that. He's always had a fantastical view of them. After losing them so young he was never able to see them as flawed humans, just idealistic guardians. I'd love to see that actually challenged.

[@Eques_Umbra]

@@RooftopRose079 TellTale beat them to it.

[@borucharnold9406]

TTS

[@CaptainTitforce]

That has been done quite a few times now with the Court Of Owls storyline, would be cool to see in a movie tho.

[@dimitrykiryanov7662]

Even if this doesn't happen, this would be a great batman movie.

[@CoolMyron]

Im pretty sure the movie is based on the comic, A LONG HALLOWEEN

[@HurricaneDDragon]

Dima Twee Not if Batman kills.

[@channe3049]

@@HurricaneDDragon Unless it's Frank Miller's Batman.

[@pjdianalan7934]

@@channe3049 this is confirmed to be a younger Batman.

[@dustinthewind4516]

Dima Twee It would be better if it was wrong.

[@elicervantes4376]

The riddler says, “your apart of this too...” he’s talking about the court of owls bc they exist within Wayne Interprise and several memeber of the council at Wayne Interprise are members of the court of owls. That’s also why he says, “what is the price of ur blind eye...” he’s talking about how Bruce fails to see that they exist within his own company

[@lorddonk9806]

I think what he means by that is that the justice system is very corrupt and people within it turn a blind eye to crime. He knows batman works with that same corrupt justice system and believes batman has a point where he will turn a blind eye to crime. But your theory is interesting nonetheless. I'm very excited for the movie.

[@dustinthewind4516]

lord donk Batman doesn’t work with the police in the movie. They are having a “truce” it happens all the time in the first 2 years of Batman’s career in the comics.

[@lorddonk9806]

@@dustinthewind4516 how could they have a truce and not be working together? I assume at the very least he is speaking with gordon. Not sure how close to the comics this will be.

[@dustinthewind4516]

lord donk I believe it’s a temporary truce. And this is ONLY year 2.

[@lorddonk9806]

@@dustinthewind4516 I see. Hopefully the movie is as good as the trailer. I definitely get the lex luthor "if god is all powerful than he cannot be all good and if he is all good he cannot be all powerful" vibe from the riddler. With the riddler in place of lex and batman in place of superman. I think the riddler believes batman is corrupt or corruptable. Maybe that fight scene is actually at the start of the movie and thats what makes the riddler target him. Maybe the riddler sees a difference between justice and brutality. Maybe he thinks there cannot be justice that is motivated by vengeance.

[@Flaris]

I like how he had some interesting angles with this, although it didn’t end up being right. In a sense Batman was challenged. His code and perspective were brought into it. But it’s not all wrong. Batman saw himself at one point as the last target. And in some ways I can see how this theory came about. Thankfully it wasn’t this. This movie ironically had a more positive message.

[@tyfenrir]

Riddlers outfit in the trailer is simply a way to ensure NONE of his DNA is at that crime scene. First thing I noticed as an actual crime scene investigator.

[@mihneaiordan1813]

So you're telling me they sacrificed a bright green suit for the sake of practicallity?

[@mni1225]

@@mihneaiordan1813 ngl i love where this is going

[@AmourEtRespect]

@@mihneaiordan1813 Just means this version of the Riddler is not a clown and he *really* wants to win

[@shinarei]

As a person with OCD (in lots of version Riddler also has OCD) - I thought that this outfit also gives the perfectionist vibe with how the crime was meant to be perfect and his persona not identified.

[@yesiamwinningdad5024]

Yikes.

[@Royal__Kitsune]

I honestly want this movie to be the best batman film, or at least so good it's tied with The Dark Knight. RP has proven himself to be an incredible actor from what i've seen of 'The Lighthouse'.

[@CausticSpace]

We ignore Twilight because he himself resents being in the film

[@Royal__Kitsune]

@@CausticSpace I remember he said his favourite twilight film was breaking dawn. but thats because he's barely in it lol

[@raymoney6503]

I think it’s gonna be the best Batman movie

[@wazir3974]

@@raymoney6503 let's not go that far yet... I still have high hopes for this movie

[@tanaypandey1771]

I really liked his role in Tenet too

[@legendaryhamster2027]

The thing with having 6 or more villains, they don't need to feature extensively and have an indepth storyline. They can use it as a way to introduce a villain to the universe, they don't even have to have an interaction with Batman during the movie because if they do it skilfully enough then they can simply tee up the sequels and have a trilogy or more of movies which interweave between themselves.

[@Mirrorcomics24]

They could set up two face for two

[@SeasideDetective2]

I hope the Joker shows up at some point. Yes, I've heard people say that they're sick of the Joker, but I think we need him more than ever in this day and age. Almost all the comic book films are ultra-serious now, so the Joker is your only option if you want to get away with having a funny villain.

[@savageskippersean]

Rumor mill has it that Marvel had done the same for the Punisher's entrance into the MCU. In two separate scenes in phase 1 an independent yellow Penske moving truck assists the heroes in pivotal moments. The driver was to be ultimately revealed as Frank Castle. It's likely BS, but cool idea all the same.

[@mjl11]

Well it's supposed to be a new batman trilogy, so maybe your right.

[@Magnitude7]

The Dark Knight Rises featured five, Ra’s Al Ghul, Scarecrow, Bane, Talia Al Ghul and Catwoman, not all had prominent roles.

[@Bigcolweezy]

He was relatively close

[@davidshillaker7578]

The Dark Knight had Joker, Scarecrow, Two-Face, and Falcone as villians, two of them being minor.

[@mokane86]

Yes I also assume most of the villians will be there just to set the tone and get people hyped to recognize them. It would be a fail if they did a 1960s batmovie style teamup or spend the time having batman take down multiple different plots throughout nthe film.

[@raptorman4035]

Falcone was in dark knight? Never noticed that, that’s cool

[@gremlinfifty2308]

@@raptorman4035 He got lifted up by the bat.

[@masjidrats2012]

Falcone wasn’t in dark knight. That was maroni

[@Madhumaanam]

It is because The Joker takes the focus of all audiences and no one does actually realise there are alot of villains. So in a way Heath Ledger's performance is what made this a masterpiece.

[@mr.midnight8090]

I was expecting Mat-Pat to put his face on Robert Pattinson during the scene he beats the crap out off that thug. Who are you? I’m Bat-Pat!

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

Bat-Pat Lol. Good one.

[@jadenjornacion2113]

Patman

[@albinlojdstrom7054]

Pat-Bat

[@hydranoid2009]

Or even better, the goon who gets beat up was "Childhood innocence" and "Who are you?!" "I'm film theory"

[@freerunner1953]

How has he not made that joke yet? 😂

[@SovietSnorlax69]

This would actually work because of the riddler second riddle from the movie ""If you are justice, please do not lie, what is the price for your blind eye?" The answer is innocence

[@batverse5827]

Austin Kingery I don’t see how the answer is that

[@nightshadowdarkthenomad6023]

I heard it was Lady Justice who is blindfolded, and no offense but Innocence doesn’t really fit into that riddle.

[@programmatical-nonsense]

I dunno what you guys mean it makes some sense.

[@batverse5827]

Justice is often depicted blindfolded and not able to see, as justice should be blind. However, turning a blind eye means ignoring undesirable information. If justice is to be blind and only care about the truth, is truth only that of what is most convenient or desirable? And at what cost to Gotham/society?

[@PopeyeBjj86]

He's asking what's Batman's price for turning a blind eye to daytime crimes such as corruption and only focusing on night time crimes.

[@TVChild3]

Most of the predictions were completely on point, but most of the reasons they happened weren’t. And yes, the David Fincher influence was impossible to miss.

[@tnty1561]

Batman would put someone inside a 17 year coma and then say "now talk."

[@haicoai6269]

yeskzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@rillykid]

@@haicoai6269 no

[@yourladbrennen3130]

@@rillykid da faq was that

[@unicornbarfingrainbows7599]

Giving people injuries to the point where they wish they were dead is better than just killing them

[@LauraSti]

MatPat: The Riddler is going to win! DC: ... Well, crap, now we have to change it!

[@DeathbatOfSpades]

MatPat is wrong like 90% of the time, so I doubt it.

[@richardcabanas1360]

@@DeathbatOfSpades I hope he isn't wrong and I REALLY fucking hope they don't change it!!!

[@thaias9654]

It could be so easy for them to change it right now since this theory is so early.

[@blankieplays1350]

He gotten some theorys right

[@abramrexjoaquin7513]

MatPat. Alfred will be BRUCE'S tipping point. In the clip. You see the riddler atop a body about to use masking tape. And there is also a clip where batman slowly walks into a group of GMPD and towards a chair with a dead person and his head taped with writing on it. It also seemed that it was a somber moment. Edit: Vengeance. For whom? His parents? Or Alfred?

[@nihal74321]

Matpat in 2022: *solving movies 5 years before they're even announced*

[@JosephZaidan-tf2vu]

Nihalol in 2025: solving movies of franchises that don’t even exist 10 years before they’re even thought of

[@_emstar]

@@JosephZaidan-tf2vu in 3071: solving franchises of movies that don't even exist 25 years before they're even thought of

[@_emstar]

@erf ss in 15000 Solving every possible action that could potentially occur throughout the entire universe.

[@griffy_griffy]

this movie has proven to be so much more than expected. 10/10

[@kobura6316]

Jim Carrey riddler is an international treasure give him the respect he deserves

[@daved8858]

Lol funny. When I watched this video I remembered how much I disliked watching Jim Carey back in the day.

[@gitgud9704]

Shouldve played Harley Quinn

[@shelbyherring92]

@@gitgud9704 I am just imagining him from his Living Color skits.

[@justnoah9334]

I was just about to say that

[@christinehall2025]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@Thinking-OutLoud]

“Beware the Court of Owls, that watches all the time, Ruling Gotham from a shadowed perch, behind granite and lime. They watch you at your hearth, they watch you in your bed. Speak not a whispered word about them, or they'll send the Talon for your head.”

[@dantekendricks249]

*cough* stealing this *cough*

[@Ohaechesi]

Court of owls bat man movie would be good, but Id like a movie of The batman who laughs or a red hood movie. If done right it would be epic

[@darrenkyla3160]

Have u seen the animated movies, I’d think you’d like them

[@desertswrath8384]

Batmam vs robin

[@gdggfhhg2016]

@@Ohaechesi that's WAAYY down the line

[@ybabts]

To be fair, the "last cinematic appearance of the Riddler" was technically the Gotham TV series. He was exceptionally portrayed in that show.

[@thatdude034]

"Cinematic", "TV Series". Pick one..

[@ybabts]

@@thatdude034 Cinematic or cinematography refers to the art of creating motion pictures. "TV Series" is in a different medium but it's still cinematography.

[@newtdockery9575]

You can hate me. He was better than Carey. That was due to the sub par cheesy writing in the 90’s before super hero films gained respect from The Dark Knight. It wasn’t Carey’s fault. It was the writers.

[@fizzrpg9961]

Gotham was not good

[@sladewilson8862]

@@fizzrpg9961 gotham was a great show.

[@karvenman]

It feels weird seeing a theory and knowing the answer is wrong

[@profbfc]

It's close in many aspects though especially Riddler's last target being Bruce Wayne

[@Criteon]

@@profbfc he gave so many guesses one of them had to be right

[@sinnamonski685]

Well... It's not an answer as it's literally a *theory*. An educated guess on this topic. Never treat a theory as an answer unless it's officially proven by the main source

[@A_Common_Channel]

DC watches theory: "Hey, that's actually better than what we were planning...

[@elonmuskisthicc7133]

I like to believe that’s how every studio does it kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKfKmXWLmMmsfdk

[@Jesus_Sav3d_M3]

Nice profile pic of Alan

[@carbon.the.christ5626]

DC can't even follow the blueprint of their great animated movies. But hopefully your right.

[@sacrificiallamb4568]

I think they're very happy with Kaz. On a related note, does anyone expect a Mighty Med theory any time soon?

[@campkira]

dc trend to be better when they not doing kidy thing...

[@themightymim6680]

When you hear that this movie will be a “noire detective” movie you know the Court of Owls will be a part of it. Just based on how popular dark detective shows are like True Detective.

[@Dionizos666]

Too soon for them,what we hear that story will focus on corruption in police

[@GellertTV]

@Matheus Lopes Garcia We don't know

[@vanillarice6163]

"This is NOT a Batman Movie!" Movie name: The Batman *hmm, yes, the floor here is made out of f̶l̶o̶o̶r̶ ceiling*

[@Braithekaikiller]

Ah uh

[@pythro_]

Floor Gang AOOOHUUUUUU

[@felixk1843]

Hahaha perfect !

[@thebadwolf3088]

@@pythro_ No.

[@pythro_]

@@thebadwolf3088 Yes.

[@Cherrymoonlit]

Matpat was so closee. He went a bit too far at the end but the se7en comparison is dead on.

[@benaring2875]

Matpat: Have they learned from Spiderman movies that have too many villains Into the Spiderverse: (-_-)

[@tearez13]

Into the Spiderverse is an outlier and therefore was not counted in the statistic as it would skew results

[@WillJM81280]

It’s DC. They never learn.

[@stealthcheck]

it was garb too

[@aurabender150]

@@stealthcheck I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, and pretend what you said was a joke.

[@johnmeerabux5224]

Should be fine if they have cameo's or supporting roles.

[@ferraswansen4909]

Matpat get's slowly better at predicting movies 5 years later: I know what happens in dc endgame before it's anounced

[@laairo]

*announced

[@ferraswansen4909]

@@laairo i'm sorry it's not my main language so thanks

[@laairo]

@@ferraswansen4909 ok well no prob then

[@dccomicsnew5263]

i highly doubt that batman killed that guy he just broke more half of his bones and gave him amnesia

[@bdgyob2352]

Phenomenal movie overall. Super fun to come back to these after seeing the whole movie.

[@fabooshka]

Bruce: Sees green question marked box addressed to "The Batman" Bruce: *WHAT'S IN THE BAHHHX* !

[@justacatusingcellphone1247]

His wife

[@RandallWhiskey]

Prbly robin

[@alexjefferson8109]

Missed opportunity to say "Two Face might probably show his "FACES" somewhere"

[@Neon_Ghost1]

I thought that too lol

[@a.h_xvry2118]

Dad puns

[@OfficiallyOfficial]

your not wrong

[@crypticcorgi8280]

I always thought being a detective was one of his most underrated aspects. At least in film anyways. Hearing this makes me personally far more interested in the movie.

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Check out my batman theory video brah

[@brucenatelee]

I always liked "ninja" Batman (don't mean the animated movie, which I didn't hate like everybody else), but I do agree that it usually ignored compared to his fighting and gadgets.

[@CapsirusPrime]

He was so close, but still so far

[@beanedcrusader9893]

I didn't even realize film theory had less than 10 mil subscribers

[@Iphone-ur6jp]

He’s getting there

[@Crazy1793]

Hit the subscribe button and ring the bell

[@R3Dwyvern]

I really thought it did but i guess that's game theory that has more than 10 mil

[@reapermaster1233]

No-one did

[@tonyeleaglenurmagomedov4550]

I think it’s because of game theory we haven’t noticed

[@mentalist7772]

In the comics Riddler wants to prove that he's smarter than everyone. So I think this will be something to think about as it may play a part.

[@kkTeaz]

*egotistical maniac*

[@arekodette8587]

This isn't the riddle this is hush

[@kohlcooke8789]

Pride?

[@Thomas-dp1ho]

@@arekodette8587 it is confirmed that there are multiple villains

[@mentalist7772]

I meant that Riddler wouldn't just go out of his way to do something to break Batman. He wants to essentially create a riddle that the world's greatest detective can't solve and his obsession with Batman is that Batman's always solved his riddle and the Riddler being a narcissist can't stand.

[@mementomori8826]

MatPat: "The court of owls" Me, who knows nothing of Batman: "...hoo?"

[@random_unknownguy]

Do you know who's spooky

[@everythingsfinett3903]

@@random_unknownguy what

[@yt_naecohk]

@@random_unknownguy hoo ?

[@leticiaguadarrama1991]

@@random_unknownguy 😂

[@random_unknownguy]

@@everythingsfinett3903 it's a comic book character from batman

[@wordyballoons]

Gotta say, you got the general gist of it. Nicely done Mister Theory.

[@mrcheese6502]

Just watched it 10/10, 3 spoons, God tomato i loved it my fab apart from the suicide squad

[@maxbagan2331]

"I don't to spoil the movie so I'm not going to look at spoilers" *finds myself here*

[@Romandy13]

This is the perfect place to wash yourself from potential spoilers because MatPat's theories are usually off from what the movies end up being about.

[@maxbagan2331]

Kurariyon my only problem with MatPats theory is I don’t want batman to become a killer. It ruins him as a character

[@Tombert]

One of MatPat's wildest takes is "this movie uses music that came out within 5 years of when this other movie came out, therefore they're connected."

[@Lokswarp]

Not really. It was actually brilliant since nirvana was used in the trailer

[@kallocarina8879]

*Batman movie gets delayed another year* Film Theory fans: Don't want Matpat to be right huh?

[@Josiah317]

bruh it got delayed?

[@loganshaw9198]

Ya there still that annoying thing around expect delays.

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Go watch my batman theory video brah

[@heisen-bones]

@@Josiah317 Pattinson got tested positive for COVID-19 few days ago

[@shadangel47]

So close, Mat, the movie did have Riddler (partially) win, Batman didn't lose his morals, he just learned how his crusade to rid of Gotham's corruption will be a long time battle, a war against crime, and that he will need to do more than being an Agent of Vengeance to do it.

[@CreatureCal]

“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

[@cy9141]

@RudyGiuliani

[@luckycat6001]

BTS BEHIND THE SCENES kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4bblKCtYsqYlbc

[@jacobhoekman6865]

Too many villains?!, did Matt ever read the comics?

[@jokertheinsaneclown3136]

Meh thats not always true. Kinda a overused quote.

[@brianb-t4v]

To be fair I think that most of the “villains” in this will just be them starting out. Like I’ve heard Penguin in this one doesn’t like the nickname Penguin at the start. I think we’ll see the start of a lot of potential villains but that they won’t actually be playing the full supervillain role yet. They’ll just be corrupted, or good and getting corrupted, people in Gotham who the audience will know have a future as villains. Like maybe Two-Face will get the acid attack but won’t actually come out as a full villain yet. There could be mention of a crazy guy in clown makeup without actually seeing Joker. I think the Court will be exposed by Riddler and Batman following his clues, and then the rest of the rogues gallery will be out and active for future films.

[@Crisjola]

So a sort of "he's Batman, not Bruce Wayne" version of how Gotham ran? Because that sounds like an equally interesting version of that [Gotham's] story. I enjoyed watching Gordon and Bruce develop a mentor/student relationship and how Gordon became important to GCPD in the first place. And why he lets Batman even exist in the city. But seeing those villains rise while Batman is active would be really interesting. I just hope a movie/90-120 min story can pull off what five years of 12-22 episodes (depending) could.

[@magmat0585]

I could see the twist maybe being the court either gets taken out violently, or is hurt badly enough that they have to hide and rebuild, but as a result, the crime in the city explodes as all the mid-tier crime bosses and supervillain-wannabes fight to get a slice of the pie and establish themselves. This is what usually happens in the real world when you create a vacuum, and it would help explain why Gotham is such a mess later in the timeline when Batman has supposedly been fighting these guys for years

[@fabulousconman1858]

This is actually a great idea! I would love to see that in the movie

[@lildripnation3462]

i think everything you wrote was true

[@heavenroots7]

Love this

[@shivam-tiwari19]

One thing MatPat forgot to mention about The Batman's parallels with Se7en is that at the end of Se7en, John Doe, wanting to break Mills and provoke him into killing him, says "Become vengeance, become wrath". And what does Batman say when someone asks who he is? "I'm Vengeance..." pretty cool little detail I think which could be a nod to the claim MatPat makes where he says Batman beats this dude to death after his moral code has been broken, he's become Vengeance, what John Doe (or in this case, The Riddler) wants him to become.

[@itstrending8440]

hi you again and i think its more of hinting to the animated series but that could be cool

[@shivam-tiwari19]

@@itstrending8440 dude our paths cross so many times lmao. I don't know much about the animated Batman series, so if that's really what this is nodding to, that's cool. I just thought this was a cool little tidbit or like a coincidence

[@itstrending8440]

@@shivam-tiwari19 yeah nice theory

[@cleverpsyche115]

Due to Matt Reeves' resume, I suspect highly this movie will subvert that. Matt Reeves is a director I note as being able to humanize non-human characters as well as things most would say are less human. Batman may be human, but I'm betting this story will be Batman rising from his anger to become Batman. In the end, Riddler will fail due to Batman's humanity, but that's just me.

[@erenerikci3263]

One problem with that theory: If that scene happens at the end of the movie and this is batman's second year as a vigilante, how come a thug doesn't know who batman is? If this was year one, it would make sense due to needing time to build your reputation. If a guy in a bat costume was a vigilante for two years, pretty much everyone would know of the existence of batman.

[@common_animations]

After seeing this movie and coming back to this video, I am actually surprised to see how accurate this interpretation ended up being.

[@AnthonnyAG]

I think that Riddler have lots of inspiration on "Batman: Hush".

[@Hazardou5]

Yes, i thought about hush as well. - The riddler as one of the main villains - a whole entourage of villains - Batman being pushed over the edge that he (nearly) kills someone it really sounds a bit like hush and the guy with the bandaged face might actually be hush and not the riddler, who knows

[@ayubali2431]

@@Hazardou5 i think Reeves may have combined the characters of Hush and Riddlers to create something new? But who knows

[@alexpina639]

He’s definitely not breaking his biggest rule in his second year as Batman.

[@santanaraynes9237]

It could be other morals

[@alexpina639]

Santana raynes I just hope it doesn’t give another reason to clown on Batman.

[@sunago]

You'd be surprised actually. Especially since this looks more at the Detective comics, where bats...really really didn't have problem offing people. The most known one is probably Detective comics #30 where he snapped a guys neck while he really didn't have to. Another has him quipping 'a fitting end for one of his kind' as a villain dies in a vat of acid, Detective Comics #27. The villains that he has right now are also predictable (apart from Joker) and who knows what will fill the void if they are removed. In one story arc, this is how the Joker came in to power. Bats got rid of one of the villains and Joker took his chance to rise. He mentions at one point how whenever he took one out, something worse filled it's place...and he really doesn't want to find out what would be worse than the Joker.

[@alexpina639]

sunago you mean golden age detective comics right? That has a pass. All of his rules were set after those years. Unless you mean rebirth. I haven’t really seen rebirth so I wouldn’t know.

[@sunago]

@@alexpina639 The Golden age comics are where he did the most of his killings yes. And it's true that the 'no killing' rule didn't come in to play until a lot later. There are however a few series where he let go of it as well. Final Crisis where he causes Dark Seids death with a gun of all things for instance. Or both instances of the Kiling Joke which is still a heavily debated thing on wether he actually killed Joker or not among fans. In New 52 he also kills a crap ton of Talons though a lot of people claim that it's okay because those people technically were already dead.

[@MrWizeazz]

“If you are justice, Please do not lie, What is the price For your blind eye?” - The Riddler “I’m Vengeance” - The Batman (I absolutely love how the answer to the riddle The Riddler gave was also the response Batman gave to the criminals he just beat up.)

[@xXwhitebandanakidXx]

No

[@hirakmathur714]

Oh my God MatPat. Unreal amounts of things you got to the point!!

[@BruceWayne-ne1ez]

My early years of being batman is really unsettling.

[@idurisu930]

we live in a society where peacock is normal and poopcock isnt

[@Thefellowmemeguy]

I could actually see u be younger batfleck if this theory is correct

[@DarkKnight_]

@@Thefellowmemeguy The Batman isn't in the DCEU

[@Thefellowmemeguy]

@@DarkKnight_ i know that but just imagine if the theory was correct

[@DarkKnight_]

@@Thefellowmemeguy would be interesting to see how he became a murderous lunatic that he is in BvS

[@FireMonkey9]

DC to the fans after the success of Joker: “Wanna hear another joke, Murraaay?”

[@maunds562]

"No I think we had enough of your jokes,"

[@Trident_Gaming03]

You know how when you're a kid you would say "if I was rich I would make whatever I want"? Yeah, that's Elon Musk

[@richardcabanas1360]

LMAO ISTG

[@thaias9654]

Well I never said anything close to that, but then again, I was a very unimaginative kid.

[@lillemon1648]

“It’s not a Batman movie” Batman in the movie for the full 3 hours