Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!
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[@justaguycalledjosh]

"The worst part of having a mental illness is people expect you to act like you don't" Owch. But he hit nail on the head, and it sucks.

[@helpidroppedmydignity6138]

I felt it in my soul

[@ParoArtPixie]

That fucked me up hard

[@xXxPartyxPoisonxXx]

:(

[@nos5915]

yeah man

[@Werewolf914]

It's so true though, everyone treats those of us with any kind of Mental Illness like we're just assholes, or like we're weak and cowardly, and it's so damn frustrating.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

_Every villain is the hero of his own story..._ *~ The Joker*

[@febreeze8976]

Stop stalking me

[@can0cringe]

The Phantom Menace : Aw c’mon he just wants to be friends with you

[@trophygatherer]

"If I'm going to have a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice."

[@toganium4175]

I've never heard him say that.

[@justan-eli9262]

@@toganium4175 he's full of random deep one liners that

[@MycoCane]

That schizophrenic handwriting was significantly better than mine.

[@abraham2172]

As long as people can read it...

[@forthesubs5357]

100 of these likes came from doctors that can relate

[@user-go3nh9mz5i]

But joker claims in the movie that he didn't have any intentions of being the figurehead of the rebellion, he only did what he did because people were just being jerks. So with that, I don't think the uprisings are his fantasies because he says he didn't want/intend for this to happen. He wouldn't fantasize about something he didn't want. (but still a great theory because you only used the trailer)

[@mjt1517]

He was the accidental catalyst for a movement. And when he confessed on nationwide TV that he was the subway killer, that movement suddenly recognized their catalyst.

[@DanteYewToob]

I think he just said that. Everyone wants to feel important. Think of the scene where he looks at the paper with the drawing of "him" on it and looks sly and happy and kinda looks around like he has a cute little secret he wishes he could tell. His expression says everything. He liked the attention, however indirect. He was a man who felt overlooked and underappreciated and ignored and he felt like he was finally being seen in some form. He might not have wanted to start a movement, but he definitely wanted to be important in some way.

[@thefollower89]

But is clearly show he liked being the unknown clown who started everything, so maybe yeah the protests started due in part to his actions and maybe no one started wearing clown mask but maybe he just imagined that way to make himself feel powerful

[@bigcrackrock]

I'm ultra stoic and humble in my psychotic fantasies as well. That really doesn't discredit anything.

[@randomcommenter1363]

He may not have wanted the uprisings at first, but he grew to like them once he saw how massively appreciated he had become, even if it was in a sick way.

[@gooberguttle424]

"Where the heroes aren't always the good guy." **doesnt put in clip from Megamind**

[@leavemymurderunsolved2547]

Oof right

[@Belacthemighty]

IK Right XD

[@doombro8598]

Hah

[@elcalabozodelandroide2]

That was his mistake

[@quincyking010]

Mega mind wasn't actually bad though

[@carrastealth]

Joker: "If I'm going to have an origin. It may as well be multiple choice."

[@Foxy02016]

carrastealth and at this point he’s got that

[@gunblade7610]

Do you wanna know how I got these scars? Though I feel like in the comics, when Batman gets to the source or a chair that knows everything and asks "who is the joker" the answer that comes back is "which one?"

[@ibrohimhakimov6435]

maybe if there was a joker movie after this one it might as well be called "Joker Choice B"

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

Nunyabuis ness nah, it'll just be the Director's Cut version; you know like the whole is Decker a replicant in Blade Runner. 😜

[@Lord_Pincone]

Isnt this quote from Arkham city

[@opiuchi864]

MatPat: [on schizo handwriting] it's messy, and outside the bounds of the lines, the letters are poorly formed... Doctors:

[@memowl3663]

ok G.I.R.

[@vinicus508]

Dude you are an absolute genius, seriously. Your content is of extreme high quality. And look at this video, you understood the entire movie even before it was released

[@dexis9412]

6:18 wait, that’s supposed to be an example of messy handwriting... *nervous laughter*

[@pigdin5692]

I completely understand

[@LemurG]

omg I thought the same thing! My handwriting is terrible

[@kerembaturpehlivan3702]

Thats just how we turkish people write its the photo under the rectangle

[@sharilshahed6106]

Looks like a doctor's handwriting if he at least practised.

[@kerasys25]

don't worry you are not alone every doctor handwriting

[@ejmakibelo3224]

Game theorists: "it has a strong genetic component." Joker: "That's not my mom."

[@lucasmillerthelewderofloli9327]

Or like in the case of my brother, wrong kind of antidepressants can induce schizofrenia.

[@peacendpola23]

@@lucasmillerthelewderofloli9327 ....no ??? Not a bit.

[@bananajoe5511]

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT PFFT

[@XxXNightcoreQueenXxX]

To be the devil's advocate wasn't there talk about it being a cover-up with fake papers, though? Also, just who would let an adoptive kid say with ... after what supposedly happened in his childhood? I'm just gonna say it the movie is trippy and who knows if what we see is true or not.

[@Jesterclown17]

@@XxXNightcoreQueenXxX Honestly, I thought it was more fitting that he was adopted. Not because I need it to stick to status quo, but because it's what drives him over the edge. When he thought Wayne could be his father, it gave him hope for his future, a plot twist that turned him into a somebody. But every chance he gets closer to the truth, he gets pushed back time and time again, building up that anticipation, making the pay off that much sweeter. He finally gets his hands on his mother's files, risks his well being on this big reveal that everyone tried desperately to keep from him... And he sees it for himself... He's not Thomas Wayne's son. He's not Penny Fleck's son. He was never important. It was just the delusions of a sick women who lied to him his whole life. He isn't even Arthur Fleck. He's... Nobody. It's a cruel punchline that drives him over the edge as he embraces the only thing he has left... Negative thoughts. But of course, that's just my thoughts on it.

[@bammity9875]

I remember watching this movie with my mom who's a psychologist, so it was very interesting to have someone who knows what their talking about when it comes to the mind.

[@Oink_Blaster]

Nobody knows everything about the mind. We can only assume and go on from there

[@LadyOnikara]

@@Oink_Blaster I know my mind seems to malfunction sometimes. Also I apparently can do math in my head when I'm not enrolled in a math class.

[@TheTomsdrc]

@@Oink_Blaster Ok smartass

[@mushi3493]

*"The Joker is not real."* l... I mean duhh.

[@gogetqz]

Big Boi Bucci *WHY DID THIS SEND ME?-*

[@mexicanbatman8157]

But he stabed me

[@mushi3493]

@@gogetqz because I have an unhealthy addiction to eating butter sticks and this is my only coping mechanism

[@mushi3493]

@@mexicanbatman8157 stabbed*

[@at-hl3ij]

Hahahahahaha herehahahhrhehe *wheeeeeeze* *chuckle* hahahahahaha

[@annoyingpeiceofbread6482]

Mattpat: *sees two trailers* "Okay so here's what happens in the movie"

[@sabhishek9289]

How else can you make a theory?

[@omegaheartless]

@@sabhishek9289 Watching the movie first?

[@sabhishek9289]

@@omegaheartless if you have predictions to make before the movie released, you have to show your theories when it actually matters.

[@cyberline8678]

He watched the movie if u follow him on ig u would know

[@_Azagoth_]

well, hes watched the king of comedy, and anyone who has seen the king of comedy has seen Joker.

[@ronnycardona3434]

Joker: Dances Film Theorist: His feet are moving in strange patterns.

[@_drumlocks9825]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jackcassidy9963]

Footloose:*Exists* Film Theorists:Kevin Bacon shows signs of a mental illness

[@DevilArmMedia]

Nice pfp

[@TheDreamSyndicateArts]

I'm now imagining Mattpat's mental illness analysis of Happy Feet! 🐧🐧🐧

[@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath]

@Vasilijan Nikolovski Bernie is ancient, nearly 80 years old. He is way too old to become president. We need someone young and refreshing.

[@jagoff42069]

Spoiler: This video is not spoiler free.

[@kingslayer563]

Wasn’t this video made before the release of Joker?

[@a.banana]

@@kingslayer563 Yes, before release.

[@Pulivari124]

​@@kingslayer563 He kinda crushed it

[@zenistu707]

Joker: Dances Game theorists: Ima pretend I didn't see that

[@THEJPIndustry]

5:05

[@ZENMASTERME1]

“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled”. Mark Twain

[@stevenvasquez3781]

Can you explain

[@stevenvasquez3781]

I get it

[@criticismguy6860]

@@stevenvasquez3781 is that you former president? Can you take back the office from Donald dump? Please??

[@-Manky]

The comment said 666 so I liked it

[@cookiecookies2870]

Isn’t that being fooled

[@devinandersen5572]

Matpat: schizophrenia is hereditary Joker Movie: Arthur fleck is adopted lol

[@sauceboy8295]

Devin Andersen but he was abused

[@bellumxyz1421]

Being adopted doesn't mean that you didn't have parents pass their genes to you

[@devinandersen5572]

Yes but matpats point was that it could have been passed down by penny fleck, which wouldn't be possible because he is adopted (albeit I understand that his genetic parents have a chance of also having the gene, there would be no way to prove that)

[@PassionPno]

@@devinandersen5572 Alternate point of view. Young Penny Fleck in mental hospital could actually be right. She and Thomas Wayne are the Joker's real parents. Wayne is rich and powerful enough to get people to forge the adoption documents for appearance reasons, just as Penny said Wayne made her signed a document to keep her mouth shut. Just in case Penny actually came out to speak about the Joker's paternity, despite the signed document, for insurance, Wayne forged the adoption papers.

[@Notyxxx]

@@alexandersmith5319 what if she went nuts because of thomas wayne though? his denial of their child's existence and shutting her up with forged adoption papers could lead to her mental state worsening and her schizophrenia to act up, causing her to be abusive because at the end she gets confused as to what is real and so on

[@shuffle2220]

Nobody: Me at one am on a school night: *watches film theories*

[@ConsistentlyInconsistent21]

I feel old-ish. I didnt have youtube when i was in school. (Graduated high school in 2006)

[@lilyquinn1711]

I’m late but thanks for making this video MatPat. I had an assignment at university where I had to examine a film and King of Comedy was one of the choices I could pick from. This video really helped me get to know this film and link it to Joker and I got a higher grade as a result!

[@blackhole3963]

This Movie is so different, I forgot it was related to DC

[@anonb4632]

The only thing that tied it down to DC were the cameos by the Wayne family. I think it's brilliant that a mainstream audience was tricked into watching an arthouse film.

[@anonb4632]

@akshay Viswambharan There have been so many takes on Joker, my other two favourites are Jack Nicholson and the guy who played him in the sixties... I like this version because it stands alone.

[@creakydabomb]

TBH I expected the replies to be MHA role-play

[@joshuahurst2778]

80's

[@pffilms2522]

Its overrated imo

[@nielsengrau1587]

Joker- Plays peekaboo with a baby Matpat- Inappropriate actions

[@FF-tk2zs]

What a menace

[@willem8028]

@@FF-tk2zs hahaha 😍

[@adjly1824]

😂😂😂

[@bestgooglemapsreviewer9087]

Cringe joke

[@tylern4]

*fbi blows is is front door open*

[@1SELFIEpls]

You didn’t mention the scene when Arthur is called “Son” by the talk show host. De Niro says “I would give this whole thing up to have a son like you”. That was definitely a fantasy.

[@missdire]

He mentions it in his other Joker theory video.

[@thatcooldudeisawesome876]

He didn't get to see the movie just the trailer when this came out you nice man!

[@1SELFIEpls]

That cool dude! is awesome! Have u seen the movie? I saw it at Redbox today, and jaw dropped. I’m pretty stoked to be renting it tomorrow.

[@JianCB2]

@@1SELFIEpls He meant that Matpat (The Game/Film Theorist) only watched the trailer when he made this.

[@JianCB2]

@@1SELFIEpls Are you illiterate?

[@realBatman]

The joker is very real. The fake scenes were deliberately shown.

[@MFDOOM_CAT]

Batman that doesn’t mean that’s all of the fake scenes you fucking doughnut

[@MFDOOM_CAT]

@jon candy yah ik i’ve seen the second video

[@waltermh111]

Its called film theory channel, lol So he is theorizing :P

[@realBatman]

Ryan Miller right, and what proof do you have there were others? None. That’s right.

[@channelmar15]

His encounters with Sophie were hallucinations if you watch the scene after he kills his mother.

[@adamcarter271]

Year of the clowns. Pennywise, Joker, and me.

[@Scags]

And Antonio Brown (if you're a football fan)

[@hazeltree7738]

And the one staring at their device right now.

[@jacobortiz8496]

🤡

[@robertbaratheon7909]

@@hazeltree7738 And you.

[@ignoremelol2576]

Best self roast of 2019 wooah crowd cheerssss

[@timewellspent8137]

It's okay MatPat, the Joker is just a character, he can't hurt you.

[@daddymellons4653]

Or can he

[@-hello6177]

@@daddymellons4653 Vsauce?

[@-hello6177]

is that you

[@Hyperus]

Joker:

[@C0pium]

Joker:

[@poperaymond431]

"He's dancing around on stairs! Everything he does in this joker suit seems to be his goals." *he has some weird goals...*

[@maxvaldez7412]

Before people saying that the Joker ripped off the movie the king of comedy from an artistic point of view is it possible that the character Arthur Fleck was a fan of the movie the king of comedy and work this movie into his own schizophrenia?

[@maxvaldez7412]

@Michael Mckay actually the king of comedy came out in 1982 and from shat I heard is that the garbage strike was based on what happened so you can place it in any period because the joker has multiple stories and plus he's telling the story so he can be merging 1981 with the king of comedy that's the joke on all if us is hes telling us the story not us saying stuff like it's set in 1981 because Arthur can set it whatever and however he wants

[@maxvaldez7412]

@Michael Mckay joker: I was just thinking of a joke. You :you wanna tell it to me? Joker: You wouldn't get it.

[@maxvaldez7412]

@Michael Mckay yeah definitely still an awesome movie my opinions are pure speculation though.

[@soldiernom]

Joker producers will now change the movie to prove matpat wrong

[@JSports13]

LightningDew 😂😂

[@ApocryphalDude]

They rewrite, reshoot, and re-edit a lot lately so that's a good bet

[@lalatendupdeo4398]

Yeah They Always Do That.

[@teddie8234]

LightningDew of course!

[@BuffaloBobBAD]

TonyDracon the guy who’s narrating the video, let alone the channel

[@marcriley2657]

MatPat: “Joker doesn’t exist” Joker: “am I a joke to you”

[@minecraftdimandar1283]

Lol

[@tal0tis]

Angel Cu agreed

[@peeonthepenski4729]

That was a funny JOKE

[@lakers3640]

"YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE!"

[@gusgray1992]

Well...(gestures at clown makeup)

[@rollo12]

@mattpat I just wanted to say good job man I've been watching you since your day one on game theory and day one on this channel and you have definitely improved for sure and your theories are always intriguing and backed up pretty well

[@carolinacollazo6591]

MatPat this video gave me the chills. Not only the theory itself and your voice but also the edition and the music were so point it's scary

[@helpgodlemmeout1527]

Matt Pat: Guesses the entire movie script DC: .....*writing noises* Aye I just flipped the script

[@theitalianfukr4270]

Internet Idiot sounds like some Scottish talks govna

[@kayleighm9634]

Internet Idiot or literally any other company when MatPat predicts stuff

[@corvocorvus9982]

Matpat: **guesses entire movie plot** DC: FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK CHANGE EVERY SCENE, DIALOGUE, AND PLOT TWISTS. HELL JUST CHANGE THE ENTIRE MOVIE PLOT

[@corrynhintz3069]

I see you mention Logan, but you clearly forgot about Megamind.

[@koolgamer5799]

Lol i thought so too😆

[@ghetoknight7801]

The villain is the hero and the hero is the villian, that is the Lore of mega boi

[@pickleman9203]

Ah yes, the superior movie

[@Dobbs_ben]

Fax

[@kynlykereh2910]

Ah, you mean "BiG bRaIn"

[@iasonasedits2682]

2019 was the age of clowns: Pennywise, Joker, etc. *"Send in the clowns."*

[@interstaffing]

Really well made presentation. I'm talking about the editing, fx and especially the dreamy hypno-tizin' music, all in exactly the right places. cheers.

[@nekomimi3058]

Last time I was this early, the purple guy was the phone guy.

[@keeganshigh]

How purple was he?

[@candylmavila]

Lol

[@aceofdiamonds2218]

@@keeganshigh augibrine

[@higherplaces129]

Nekomimi back in the old times, it was simple. Do you remember, Peteridge farm remembers.

[@lukeman4264]

Overused comment

[@JonBeDoinThings]

Matpat: lets take a look at fightclub Me: no you can't talk about that

[@THATotherGUY415]

He broke the 1st rule too, smh

[@lilkermit7749]

Perhaps

[@That80sGuy1972]

Dang you jon... beat me to it.

[@batknight4317]

Anyone that talk about it or tries to stop it gets their balls cut off

[@detBits]

HAHAHAHAHA YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB AMIRITE GUISE?!

[@unknowncreature-0069]

"People expect you to behave like you don't." That's very true. From illnesses like schizophrenia to things like dyslexia. I have ADHD, and one of the symptoms of that illness is short term memory problems, I have to ask about things I just heard. And no matter what I say it always makes people angry. They always think I'm not listening or don't care. I am listening and I do care, but I can't behave like them.

[@johnbush5347]

I have a rage based form of depression, things that should make me sad cause me to be uncontrollably angry, the medicine for this condition is basically poison that made me so sick I couldn't function

[@JonBow_]

You wanne know how i got these oscars? -joker

[@hallohallo446]

Is honestly nobody talk about how well edited this is... Props to your editor's!!!

[@hanswurst320]

I think everyone apreciates it... that is why so many people are watching the videos.

[@irohnoname6454]

Is no one going to talk about the fact the mat pat ripped off point for literal point a theory and he just pretends like it didn't happen.

[@sarahi687]

James S ??

[@irohnoname6454]

www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/4chbed/finally_solving_the_disc_11_mystery/ kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHfXnKl_jN6Notk

[@irohnoname6454]

mat pat's theory came out three years after this one. its the same theory, no credit no apology. big youtubers get away with this shit all the time.

[@ren-sensei3718]

"If I am to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice" -the Joker(The Killing Joke)

[@zaneninjayt7945]

"If i am to have a past i preder it to have PSEUDOBULBAR AFFECT played into me" -me TEEEHEEE

[@kekfreedomheritage5633]

Yes, Joker, you may even put a little fear into the one they call IT. KEK KEK LOL

[@cowboy5929]

Imma just read the Wikipedia summery.

[@reyhavoc2911]

@xrelik how about imdb? Check it out, its 9+.

[@thewizardninja]

@xrelik It's kind of silly to pre-judge a movie based on whether or not someone you don't like does like it. It could easily just be a movie that you both like.

[@MovieFan1912]

The second half of this video has opened my eyes and shown me that even if a movie is forgotten, you never know who it might inspire, as is the case here with a lesser known film directed by Martin Scorsese being used as inspiration for Joker. Now, I pay more attention to what filmmakers today use as inspiration for their movies.

[@silly_17]

Mat Pat: *telling facts of schizophrenia* Me: *starts to question my mental health*

[@CuppaTeaExe]

The only real joker is Scott Cawthon posting a new FNAF teaser

[@thecalamity278]

Lol

[@kreatorkeon4478]

Your joking right?

[@pixl2578]

@@kreatorkeon4478 *you're

[@alejandrobeltran5948]

@@pixl2578 chill out grammar nazi

[@chn-iz7yt]

True..

[@az4535]

„Stop making the movie cringe by posting random quotes from the movie.“ -Joker

[@joemartin7451]

bottom text line

[@zippy9752]

TOP TEXT BOTTOM TEXT

[@yomamasfuckboy6893]

The best line joker have Said

[@robinbanks3186]

"i'm the Joker Baby!" -Joker Baby

[@kristayoww4032]

"There are people in the world." -Joker

[@deboraalvesmartins9842]

I’m still waiting for a Red Hood movie, Jason Todd is such a amazing character, so much darker than batman and so much more violent, he doesn’t have batman’s mentality of not killing and that makes for a far more real and relatable character, and one of the most amazing things is that despite the violence he still helps so many people and is loved by so many people that his existence just seems like a slap on batman’s face, especially since he was the second robin.

[@Phantomiam]

Well with Matt Reeves the batman universe maybe we will get that later down the line

[@creakydabomb]

The Joker laughing after getting hurt might also be just a weird pain response cause sometimes when I get hurt especially when my head hits something like a wall I laugh or at least I used to

[@christophergraphia4698]

I actually react the exact same way to pain.

[@Robin-jo5iw]

"As he himself says in his final trailer-" "SWITCH TO S P R I N T"

[@CarlosVega-mg5kk]

The moment I started reading this comment may was saying the quote

[@WhiteWolf101]

"As he himself says in the final trailer..." KZbin ad: "dance all night to endless music."

[@deborahiraheta-gonzalez3499]

*sounds about right*

[@tarnishedcat5088]

I got to... for spotify ya?

[@unitNitro]

Happened to me too

[@beleques]

I got the Trailer for a horror movie, which was surprisingly fitting for the moment...

[@Noone-of-your-Business]

This is surprisingly accurate for an essay based on the trailers only. Which says something either about the quality of your work or the quality of the trailer. Or both.

[@stichez5173]

Wow. Looking back at this after seeing the movie multiple times and your other videos on it... you predicted this super well

[@lonespartan100]

How is making a kid laugh on the bus “inappropriate behavior”

[@greenpotatopo8474]

It’s not every day a middle aged man makes funny faces to a kid in a crowded area to someone else’s child while the parent is nearby.

[@wnerko7484]

its an unritten rule.with all the sickos trying to kidnap kids.it raises red flags when a single man is acting creepy towards a kid thats unattended too.that weird look in his eyes.you dont look at a kid all weird and dramatic like that unless you want to lose an eyeball

[@nervesconcord]

The other day on the train a little girl kept peeking through the gap in the seats, after a couple of times I started pulling faces at her, or peeking out from behind my backpack. She started giggling and doing the same. I don't care if someone looks at me funny, I was making a little girl happy. The thing with onlookers who take issue with it is that they just want everyone else to be as miserable in their lives as they are.

[@harrybarber3255]

wnerk o you need a little faith in humanity, there's never been less violent crime in the world. You don't need to forget about the small possibility of encountering danger but it is damn unlikely

[@420Ruger]

First off are you a parent? Second have you ever had to use public transportation as a way to get around?

[@laughypills9152]

"he is not the joker" Me: "I knew it, he is.....Batman"

[@laughypills9152]

@j r *Batman voice* woooosshhh

[@wheatstack5018]

Batman: *_WOOOSH!_*

[@wyrdboi652]

I'm Batman

[@marc_spro2419]

Guys it’s obviously sans

[@PamelaTaylor]

that laugh tho

[@ZachariahCruse]

It's like Arthur Fleck just watched Taxi Driver and King of Comedy and then hallucinated all his fantasies as a mix of those movies and that's why Robert De Niro is there.

[@joelsept2181]

I just realized the whole study was made by Turkish doctors and the whole paragraph was in Turkish. Thinking of all my teachers’ hand writing,this guys’ one was relatively normal.

[@jameszack7158]

aferin

[@milenhadzhiev9577]

What if the Joker is entirely someone else and Arthur Fleck just aspires to be him?

[@asherdevin]

I was thinking it might be the opposite. This Joker may be a little too old to fight a young Batman, given the 30 year difference. So there's this guy trying to become Joker but he doesn't get any traction, and manages to inspire the "real" Joker. Maybe the younger one thinks this Joker is just crazy, but then has the iconic backstory happen and realizes that this Joker is right. Something like that.

[@milenhadzhiev9577]

@@asherdevin It's plausible as well. I really like the idea/theory that Arthur Fleck and The Joker are not the same person.

[@dexterdahmer]

Milen Hadzhiev I’m thinking so and plus wasn’t it said that Jokers name was unknown???

[@tonyawayne3295]

I was just about to comment something like this

[@milenhadzhiev9577]

@@dexterdahmer It would be an interesting twist definitely.

[@BigElkification]

nobody: Film Theory: What if a fictional movie character isn't real

[@andreseh87]

BigElkification you must be fun at parties.

[@LordKnowsBlue]

Andres Hernandez he is but mat isn’t

[@italy2543]

@@andreseh87 what's so fun about this video?

[@PamelaTaylor]

I am going to see it tho

[@Ayveh]

Lol true

[@ronnocenarrik826]

The fact that this theory was almost spot on if amazing

[@scubasteve7638]

Joker would be an old man by the time lil Bruce Wayne got old enough to become batman in this universe.

[@futurespider0787]

Year of the clowns. Pennywise, Joker, and Adam Carter

[@keatonpark9903]

Future Spider07 and Antonio brown

[@topanimation9554]

Haha I had to go down a bit to understand 😂

[@Morbian13]

Oh I could name a few more..........

[@theothersatanspawnedweeb1125]

@@Morbian13 Saaaame

[@maryamhassan3201]

Hahahah😂

[@Nodexis]

When you watch “Joker” you realize he wrote the top with his Right hand and the bottom with his Left hand

[@ironhvh]

nah I think when he is negative he writes with his left hand when he is happy he wrote on his right hand.

[@Nodexis]

rgbHVH I mean I never applied why he does it but good to know, Noted

[@michalvalasek]

He said tho that he hasn’t been happy for one minute in his entire life.

[@elenaascia8879]

Can it be that he has a double personality ?

[@lunamia96]

It’s actually - Arthur writes with right, Joker writes with left

[@kylabacerdo2607]

matpat: all the scenes with him wearing his joker costume are only hallucinations joker: well yes but actually no

[@KamikaziRainDrop]

I appreciate that a great deal of this theory was proven correct even if not 100%. Would love to see a follow up!!

[@habitsrabbit]

I'm like 3 minutes in. Joker loves to have multiple back stories. So what if Arthur Fleck is just a made up story for the joker to use?

[@TeratoidToast]

that would be so good

[@t1m3f0x]

If I have to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice. - The Joker

[@handlesRtrash354]

Damn

[@Uberkritz]

But the movie is not based on comic book lore

[@Not_Ciel]

@@Uberkritz Doesn't mean it can't be related to the comic books though.

[@kaizoaudio1798]

Could his mother have passed away and the “mother” he’s taking care of is nursing his own mental well-being? Needing constant attention; sometimes doing well and sometimes in a very bad state.

[@robinhyperlord9053]

Psychology is just a retard.

[@thatgoodsucc6928]

@@robinhyperlord9053 no u

[@Ben10man2]

That's what I've been thinking

[@nivaldomonte5441]

Kaizo Audio it's possible, but it would throw me off a little. The Joker origin has him actually lose his wife, his unborn child, and his sanity in less than 24h. If the mother is real, it'll feel more tangible. Otherwise, it might seem as if Joker wasnt a person the audience could become, in a sense. It's more effective if there is a real problem that motivates the final derailment of the character's mind.

[@Ben10man2]

@@nivaldomonte5441 Firstly, the killing joke is presenting one possibility, his origin is multichoice for a reason. And two let's not forget he's insane, sadistic and we are not supposed to identify with him. People keep forgetting the joker is a bad guy for a reason. He's not an antihero, he's just barely sympathetic. He's still EVIL

[@shebarashid3696]

Let's just acknowledge the fact that he got that one right with just trailer

[@hindisalim9003]

Hey! Good video. Hereditary part is wrong. He's adopted.

[@johnbush5347]

Unless the entire movie is a hallucination n he never left the therapists office

[@ha9513]

How is making a child laugh on a bus “inappropriate behaviour”??

[@khabibnurmagomedov3833]

The exact same thing was wondering.

[@goblinsgambits196]

Considering there are people who consider hugs sexual assault nowadays...

[@bryguy1502]

Hamid Adib Maybe The child could have just been disciplined and needed to feel bad so he’d learn. Arthur making him smile could be considered undermining the mom’s parenting. Edit: Fixed a spelling mistake.

[@jordanrodriguez6412]

Maybe you didnt see the whole scene because it's a fucking trailer?!?!?! Smfh.

[@brandongamez419]

Kaeru Unmei why does this have 10 likes

[@Asa-zm8wi]

The photographer taking my school photo: “keep smiling.” “kEeP sMiliNg!” “KEEP SMILING!” *Sneakily looks at my photo on their computer* Me: “THIS IS WHY NO ONE SHOULD KEEP SMILING...”

[@chrisp.9385]

School Photographer: smile Also photographer: takes 5min to take the godamn picture

[@giorgos_p1521]

*Ohhh yepp* ....I watched the movie and I am just sitting here, rating this guy's hypothesises

[@joeygrenova7635]

1:06 a man who just won an Oscar for best actor !

[@BlackOdin27]

Plot twist, the struggling quiet Arthur is the illusion and the confident Arthur is the real one!

[@elinformadoranonimo2195]

😱

[@dontreadmylogo6619]

BlackOdin27 *MY PR0FlLE PlCTURE* 🤭👀

[@Soletestament]

considering the Joker likes to make up new origin stories about himself all the time... I'd say Arthur is just one more fiction

[@Ayveh]

That would be a nice plot twist

[@SamanthDarling]

Maybe the clown masks cane first...😮

[@katakisenpai]

“ Where heroes aren’t always the good guys “ *D E A T H N O T E*

[@TailsDollPrower]

Bingo.

[@disowned2821]

Yep

[@GodlysRebirth]

KIRA IS JUSTICE

[@petew.7870]

#NeverMeetYourHeroes!!

[@charlescooks9360]

just because you're the protagonist doesn't mean your a hero

[@Alphacrab7]

Moves hands Mat pat: I think theres a connection

[@Pyromaniac21]

3:18 Wait Wait Wait. I distinctly remember references to *Arthur Fleck* . It was in the same noir animation style as the 1992 Animated Series and was even voiced by *Mark Hammill* . It shows the early days when he masqueraded as Red Hood before being thrown into a vat of chemicals to ultimately become the Joker we know and love in the series.

[@Miranes]

I prefer my origin to be multiple choice -The Joker

[@leavemymurderunsolved2547]

you got me choking on my salad I swear-

[@exquisitecorpse__]

But that would make a confusing movie.

[@Ok-eg8dg]

@@exquisitecorpse__ or its shows his back story is so traumatic his brain forced him to forget

[@tyrant-den884]

I could see the whole file ending with: "Is that really what happened?" "Maybe."

[@Ok-eg8dg]

@@tyrant-den884 who says that tho

[@t.k.1676]

Last time i was this early, Matpat ruined my childhood from willy wonka Edit- mum I made it

[@Autistic_Overload]

*Come with me and you will see, in a world Of Ocea Violations...*

[@Rachel-zv1ep]

Dude you better leave then

[@legallybrunette4]

T.K. 16 That’s nice :)

[@mothmanparanoid]

Love matpat but I do wonder if he does any research AT ALL 1. Arthur Is not trying to impress anyone with comedy, if you watch the trailer you will see he has wanted to be a comedian since he was a kid “ When I was a little boy I told everyone I was going to be a comedian and they all laughed, Well nobody’s laughing now” 2.This is an alternate Joker that has NOTHING to do with the main universe, This is simply another incarnation.

[@enbyduma3968]

Lol.

[@colossalc5219]

Eat an apple a day and keep the doctor away *~ Joker*

[@winter6292]

Nice work as always Matt!

[@Jawz366]

“So soon after Suicide Squad”... Matt,,,, it’s been over 3 years

[@arafchowdhury2467]

The movie was shot years earlier

[@oakleyhasafoot7878]

Dead Inside The Amazing Spider-Man was released 5 years after the original Spider-Man trilogy was over, and people said it came out too Early.

[@adelynn3501]

Not long enough

[@austinwilliams7219]

The wound still hasn’t healed

[@SketchitDIY]

three years ain't that long for a reboot

[@alihashemifar1503]

“Men whose greatest achievements exist in their own mind” Got me crying

[@dabunnyrabbit2620]

that's the only place anything exists.

[@1999_reborn]

Dabunny Rabbit Are you claiming there is no external world?

[@chrysalisreborn2426]

There is an external world, but it is how we perceive the world and make it what it is to our own individual selves. If I touched a leaf, the feel of it may be different from that of someone else because of their brain reacting to the texture, as all other living things may react differently to it. The way we perceive the world individually is what the world is in our perceptive reality, but may not be and most likely is not the world for what it truly is, and we may never know what it truly is. It is based off of what we know from our senses and perception of those senses.

[@Zaysav]

The new York crack scene was something else

[@dabunnyrabbit2620]

@@1999_reborn not at all. but the external world exists to most people, only because of their/our minds interpretation of it.

[@Oktavius-ud2oh]

Joker : dances Matpat : hid feet are moving in strange patterns

[@-Apple.Pie-]

Joker: Hey guys you see that flying dog there? Others: What dog? Matpat:There's my proof

[@Gentry224]

This might be your most probable theory yet before a movie is out.

[@joshdeveaux6936]

I think you ment saleable

[@epistemologyphilosophy7791]

No, it’s terrible.

[@hscruda19]

Me: oh cool he probably posted himarymary part - Matpat:😂

[@NikkiTheViolist]

He's such a joker

[@_Mr.Tuvok_]

I live for “ aaaaaand cut.” Glad that’s back. Don’t ever cut my cut again.

[@jennabassil6108]

Penny Fleck’s name is the key to why Arthur becomes misunderstood. It is a metabolic disorder that causes copper to build up in the organ tissues due to the lack of ability to expel the excess. Organs affected can include the eyes and brain. In later stages diagnosis can be made by undergoing a specialized eye exam to reveal copper (penny) colored flecks is the iris or even a ring around the iris. While Penny was just trying to hang on to her job and sanity, she became vulnerable. Author came along unexpectedly, and she was no match for the powerful and wealthy with connections.

[@MagiaGirl]

Even in the comics, it is known that the Joker tells various versions of his own origins. So, you could just chalk it up to that as well.

[@jarredj5699]

I can’t wait for the next video “Thanos isn’t actually thanos”

[@kent_nelson]

lmao, for real

[@nitro-verse5311]

He never left the chair

[@ladellcalhoun8133]

He really snapped HIMSELF at the beginning so he was dreaming about the whole thing 🤣🤣

[@Dameyification]

Or "Your girl isn't actually a girl"

[@high_maintenance]

His delusions are similar to that meme when a dog ran through a neighborhood parade and thought the cheering was for all him 😂

[@bonnietelocole6777]

MatPat: As he himself says- KZbin: *wordless ad for Smart Water* Me: ah yes, the timeless Joker quote, *classic music (?) in an ad about intelligent liquid*

[@DomoSandPaper]

Meta Theory: We DON'T live in a society

[@devinschwers3714]

We do

[@chrisp.9385]

Society lives in us

[@valdish9620]

Yeah, that's ridiculous.

[@gnarguru2054]

We live in our own individual simulacra

[@tijldevries4345]

@@chrisp.9385 what if lives' us in society

[@zoltanrostas-secola]

Even the Joker doesn't know his own origin story. "I'm not exactly sure what happened. Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!" - Joker

[@neopolitan6918]

I think this channel has given me more ideas of what's wrong in my head than WebMD. And that's saying something

[@wet-read]

Have you looked into the DSM? Or researched the clusterfuck (pun intended) that personality disorders are?

[@shinine1464]

I’m seriously impressed how much of an accurate prediction this was!!!!!

[@78reapers89]

Dude, a actor says something small, matt just spends like all day picking it and exposing it. Tom Holland: *Sweating intensifies*

[@lainegarcia6723]

HAHAHAAHAHA! I'm a Holland Fan so I've been waiting for this comment forever.😂🤦‍♀️

[@anthonybarr301]

Tom ain't in the mcu anymore so he has nothing to spoil

[@Beardy-plays]

An actor. Not a actor. Who the fuck cares what this skidmark says?

[@captaincookie5325]

@@Beardy-plays its not even that serious bro XD

[@biznessman5632]

@@anthonybarr301 yeah but he still might be spider man in other movies

[@YourHomieFrog]

Mat Pat: lets take Fight Club for example. Me: Rule 1: Don’t talk about Fight Club.

[@deborahiraheta-gonzalez3499]

But..... *YoU jUsT dId*

[@thatisamazing912]

rule 2: talk shit, get hit!!!! do you get the hint?

[@Fszb]

wow, this is basically a summary of the movie. (this ws posted before release) thats impressive af.

[@Lost_01]

“As he himself in the trailer says...” “LETS PLAY RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!!!!” gots love mid roll ads Lolol