Film Theory: Uncovering Top Gun's HIDDEN Enemy! (Top Gun Maverick)

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Top Gun Maverick was a MUCH better movie than I anticipated. So much so that I felt I needed to do a theory on it. What are we theorizing about? The enemy of our protagonists. You see, they never actually TELL US who they are fighting. So, I'm going to figure it out for myself! Get ready to SOAR into some secrets!
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Credits:
Writers: Matthew Patrick, Bob Chipman and Forrest Lee
Editors: Koen Verhagen and Jerika (NekoOnigiri)
Sound Editor: Yosi Berman
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[@Apollo-zc2rj]

Fun Fact: There is (or at least was) a hot dog stand in the center of the Pentagon, and was one of the busiest parts of the building. It was so busy that the Soviet Union thought it was the entrance to a secret underground bunker, and as such constantly had an ICBM pointed straight at that one hot dog stand.

[@dontreadprofilephoto1728]

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[@aBadWizard]

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[@okanimator]

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[@thatkidoverthere2564]

Yeah reporting bots… understood

[@calebfarmer176]

Episode II: The Bot Wars

[@stevemanart]

Fun Fact! The original Top Gun is a movie you will see at least three times a year every year if you are ever stationed on a Naval Aviation base or carrier.

[@reentrysfs6317]

Actually?

[@roberthagley9803]

@@reentrysfs6317 Yeah lol nothing like coming down the flight deck, tired and hot af, trying to watch a movie on channel 3 for chow and Top Gun or Midway is on

[@reentrysfs6317]

@@roberthagley9803 okay

[@brrrrrr]

_crosses navy off of the list of possible careers_

[@overworkedcat9779]

@LakehuntistEpic but did I ask

[@rayvinpister2874]

I’m really hoping someday we’ll get a theory on how Maverick survived being ejected out of an exploding jet going Mach 10. I’m so certain it shouldn’t be possible but I’d love to have it explained

[@zacharyzientko2277]

At thats high of an altitude the atmosphere prob made it closer to a space walk than anything else

[@404cheeseburgernotfound5]

maybe it ejects the cockpit instead of the seat

[@tronam]

It’s a plot hole, but who cares. It was awesome. Not everything needs to make sense.

[@carllyngholm5568]

Surviving being ejected out of a plane going Mach 10 is NOT possible in real life. So... simplest explanation is that it's a movie, and therefore not necessarily chained to the laws of physics. However, (and you may have heard this theory at this point), some people think that Maverick actually DOES die at this point and the rest of the movie is essentially a last dying "fever dream" where he reconciles with two of the people in his life that he felt most ostracized from (Rooster and Peggy), so he can die in peace, basically. Interesting, but I personally subscribe to the "it's only a movie" position.

[@tronam]

@@carllyngholm5568 The only time a plot "flaw" takes me out of a movie is if I'm no longer emotionally engaged with it and any sense of verisimilitude is gone. In general I find the pursuit of them to be a pointless intellectual exercise that does nothing to enhance the experience and only distracts from it. Movies are artifice by nature and my suspension of disbelief only works if I can accept them on their own terms. Most of my favorite films are filled with contrived conveniences, unrealistic dialog and impossible circumstances, but I can usually forgive and accept all of that as long as they convincingly resonate with emotional or thematic truth. When watching a magic show I don't want to know how the tricks are done; I want to be tricked because my desire to experience a sense of wonder and amazement is why I went to the show in the first place.

[@scaryespacio285]

When I saw the Arstotzka symbol I was like “GLORY TO ARSTOTZKA” lol

[@Vennnaya]

Really want tom cruise to say that now in the next top gun lmao.

[@randomgo1238]

were you now 😄😄😄? stfup now 😄😄😄😄😄

[@yasualleonandabunchofnumbers]

Matt: "I'm also going to add China" *Ten seconds later* Also Matt: "We can immediately eliminate China" Love it 👍

[@bransonries2774]

Gotta keep up friendly relations

[@TheAverageLobster]

Canada Geo:check Near russia:check Has a coast:check Could possibly get a f 14 from usa:check I know it now it's clear

[@Dexter037S4]

@@TheAverageLobster All US F-14s were shredded in 2006, leaving Iran as the only choice

[@TheAverageLobster]

My reply is a joke

[@aerospacematt9147]

@@Dexter037S4 Yeah “Shredded” is a good way to put it!

[@albertmanafi4854]

I’m half-Iranian and my first thought after seeing the movie was…”uh yep, that’s Iran all right” glad to know MatPat thinks the same 💀

[@user-lk2ex7ng8r]

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[@tommybell3334]

Yeah I mean this video honestly king of over does it. As soon as I heard they where a nation in the Middle East trying ti create nukes it was sorta obvious

[@camharkness]

@@tommybell3334 he's also trying to teach people stuff, along with the theories.

[@prinz4279]

@LakehuntistEpic bot

[@Faun471]

@LakehuntistEpic k

[@esceneknausicalci]

When I saw the Tomcat, I immediately knew it the Hidden Enemy was Iran.

[@Matthew-qx3dh]

I thought the enemy was Arstotzka from Papers, Please. The insignia on the enemy 5th gen fighters really looked like their flag and the Eastern European setting of the country can match the setting of the movie

[@ryanfriedrich6634]

There's no way Matt isn't on the CIA watch list.

[@FreakingFrackingNerd]

🤣

[@brrrrrr]

He's gonna find classified files for one of his theories one of these days

[@unreachablesecretary]

@@Tyrichyrich Exactly, this video just scratches the surface of why he probably IS on the list

[@jackofalltradeshermes]

​@@Tyrichyrich including the fact he spawned Ash from his imagination

[@93Hexer]

If the CIA subscribes to the Channel they can watch so long they want to

[@Gillymonster18]

The sweat issue in the original is a legit thing: they’re in the middle of the desert and gov buildings that likely don’t have AC or in the heart of an aircraft carrier in the Pacific Ocean where the functionality of any AC on the boat is definitely questionable.

[@haroldb1856]

The real enemy is humidity.

[@unknownnln9172]

I can attest the desert is hot and government ac sucks... unless you have a bunch of brass then your ac will work well and so will the window unit in their office.

[@EEEEEEEE]

E‎

[@BastardOfTheNorth]

So that's why Slider stank so bad

[@memesfromdeepspace1075]

No ........the answer is ........ITS introduction to homosexuality

[@RewindOGTeeHee]

Matpat is over here proving why the military releases only minimal information for the public 💀

[@cerealeggvr6942]

The fact that they said that f-5s were migs is crazy

[@wzthshaahhshbdvdjrg]

the original top gun used t-5s for the enemy fighters because they cant just go steal a mig-29

[@Plan3tMist]

​@@wzthshaahhshbdvdjrg not with that attitude

[@superm2k]

The F-5's are called MiG's in the movie

[@arbolalto]

@@superm2k Well, comrade, even if we discard the fact that they couldn't just get a MiG for their american propaganda movie and had to work with what they have in stock (note that the chopper Rambo destroys in Rambo 3 is neither a Mil Mi-24 but a Puma with masking tape strapped wings), the first clue that those MiGs were fictional, is that, at that time, MiGs were given only odd numbers and MiG-28 was verily fictional. Also, me being mexican, the movie never fooled us because there was a popular video by Luis Miguel, called La Incondicional, where he becomes a fighter pilot and, at the end of the song, he flies, you guess it, an F-5, the best our army had at that time... and still today. Yeah, we don't invest much on military airplanes.

[@superm2k]

@@arbolalto Well yeah, I'm aware of that. Was just pointing it out to OP - also, the MiG-6 exists.

[@unknownvariable9239]

This movie was the first movie in a long time that feels like a blockbuster. Practical really has a difference

[@dontreadprofilephoto1728]

Ok dont read my name😑.........

[@Laurenmettke]

I agree! It was the first movie in a long time that was truly amazing!

[@kinoirvoidjustice]

preceded by blade runner 2049

[@jakeorb771]

Idk man, Dune was also genius. But that was 2021 so it seems like there is 1 per year

[@hippityhoppityyourbrainisn4384]

I see that you are some guy without a mustache 2.0

[@adventurerwithacoolhat2531]

As someone who works in the theaters: I say that normally movies have a falloff period of 3 weeks where numbers go down. Top Gun had over 2 months before it would even remotely fall off. It’s still going big.

[@djramz3]

Watched yesterday for the 3rd time, still got goosebumps in certain scenes, truly a remarkable movie

[@yizzardpalmero]

Yeah I tried to go see it like two weeks ago because I heard it was going out of theaters so I showed up on a Tuesday and the theater was sold out. I was super shocked, but turns out it wasnt going out of theaters yet so I just went the next week. (Bought tickets beforehand this time) the theater wasnt sold out but was still fairly full

[@LocalLibertarian]

It’s action and nostalgia charged with patriotism mixed in the only people who wouldn’t like it are far left individuals and a senile high ranking public official whom shall be referred to as “Brandon”

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@tundraart2693]

@@LocalLibertarian i am super far left and loved the movie. My friends who are super far left loved the movie. Its a good movie. Just because i think america isnt a good country doesnt mean i hate everything about it.

[@r3l1csvk]

that Papers,please end was golden

[@dookydealer7334]

Mav actually has a 3rd mef patch on his jacket, which made the whole korea thing in the first one a little more obvious than you might think. Because the 3rd mef or (marine expeditionary force) is located in Okinawa Japan. Sooo that means it's possible he was on the 31st meu at the period the first movie is set. (I know he is a navy pilot and not a marine, but I figured it's a way to connect the dots.)

[@kazanzylo175]

I had thought Iran was the hidden enemy, not just because of the nuclear facility, but as a kid playing with his toy airplane, my favorite fighter jet: the Tomcat f-14. Iran is the only country on the planet that still has that aircraft in use.

[@jaymeister4850]

The F-14 is STILL my favourite fighter ever. Also, this is the reason why we won't ever get retired F-14 warbirds. Each and every last one has been scrapped, so that Iran can't wangle a way to get spares

[@MikeyDL69]

I knew it as soon as they laid out the conflict. I guess history class wasn’t completely useless.

[@kazanzylo175]

@@MikeyDL69 yeah! 😄

[@kazanzylo175]

@@jaymeister4850 yep, but I'm sure going to miss it

[@funveeable]

The Iran Nuclear Deal would allow Iran to enrich the uranium and build every component for a nuke and the only thing it doesn't allow is the final assembly. It's like how California bans automatic weaponry but they allow me to have all the components to assemble the weapon with no problem. Assembly takes a few hours. A nuke, maybe a few days.

[@forsakenpath4992]

As someone who lives in Washington, watching the final battle was pretty funny. I hike a lot in the area where they filmed, and I could actually recognize some of the peaks and the lake (Lake Kachess). Afterwards, my dad and I joked that the "enemy" was Cascadia- look up Cascadia independence if you aren't familiar. 😆

[@justduck4504]

mmmmm project wingman

[@grigss3027]

Oh god just hope that tom cruise wont activate a cordium deposit

[@cocobob6025]

holy you could be in it

[@butydoe750]

@@justduck4504 monarch

[@TREX_04]

Or play project wingman

[@nathanwood868]

I feel so smart, after watching this movie I was thinking about what country they might have been fighting, and I went through a pretty similar mental checklist and came up with Iran, now I'm watching this months later and feel like I'm way ahead of the curve.

[@carso1500]

i knew it was iran because of the F-14s, only one of those countries uses those

[@shadowguy321]

Fun fact for anyone who is unaware. The mission can and would be carried out by 5th gen fighters such as F22 and/or F35. However both of those planes are single seat. Since they had the actors in the Jets literally flying they had to change it to F18s which are 2 seat configuration for obvious reasons

[@DerUnbbekante]

The f22 isn't carrier capable.

[@parsashojai6945]

Watched this movie with my parents (we're iranian). When it got to the scene of them explaining the geography and political situation me and my dad looked at each other immediately and said Iran.

[@ASLTheatre]

Sorry to make you feel uncomfortable.

[@AdmiralBonetoPick]

@@ASLTheatre Did you write the film?

[@ASLTheatre]

@@AdmiralBonetoPick No, it was meant to apologize if Parsa felt self conscious or negative feelings as a result of this video.

[@kolinmartz]

@@ASLTheatre but did you do it?

[@ASLTheatre]

@@kolinmartz I was simply trying to show empathy.

[@HolySoliDeoGloria]

0:55 You missed some "too darn sweaty" scenes from the original that would have been really appropriate to make your point: The personnel in the combat information center on the carrier are all sweating profusely, yet they are in spaces on the carrier that are kept VERY cold (no matter the weather outside) to protect all the computers and electronic equipment.

[@meizapple6203]

People get sweaty when stressed.

[@Menno_3]

@Pastry Imagine misinterpreting a correction as being offended

[@thesuperintendent4290]

@@meizapple6203 Also when they are in the Pacific, is very stressed and some people are just sweaty and greasy all the time.

[@revimfadli4666]

Cold sweat that doesn't evaporate due to cold & humid air?

[@meizapple6203]

@@thesuperintendent4290 yeah people just sweaty, I can vouch

[@greatgrungustwo904]

im glad to hear that matpat enjoyed watching a scientologist fly a plane

[@astelius]

*i absolutely love these movies, they reignited a small passion I once had for Air Force academy. Love that Mat did a video for this!*

[@unrealreality232]

As an Iranian og watcher of the channel and some one who keeps up with news, the moment matpat talked about F-14 and the desire to attain nukes; I was %100 sure that it was my homeland. Great video matpat, you explained it very well for people who don't know much about geo-politics & middle eastern countries.

[@mobinmortazavi2726]

I'm from Iran to and my dad pointed it out to me

[@wordchannel972]

Same here bro as soon as he described it I knew it was Iran lol

[@NaughtyNovaroo69]

yeah, cause when he said all 9 countries that the USA Gov said were rogue states, I knew it had to be Iran cause I knew they had a snowy pine mountain biome similar to the trailers and etc. but if his last comment about the arstoska symbol then that wouldn't work cause they will need to get the rights and somehow make sure the owner of the game and idea makes sure that it makes sense in the timeline. also, why haven't anyone talked about the symbol???

[@hresvelgr7193]

Iran is the only real candidate thanks to it's F-14s. No other country in the world has a flyable F-14

[@mehrasmeydani2739]

Everyone from Iran guessed it the moment they saw the title

[@benlondon800]

Fun fact, the taco bell used to be at the pentagon but currently its closed. The other restaurants MatPat mentioned are still operating though.

[@SergeantMcClain]

The was also a Best Buy at one point and a CVS

[@anubusx]

Their toilets could not handle it.

[@raawesome3851]

How do you know?

[@brittbereading3450]

So their toilets WERENT, in fact, as strong as their airforce XD

[@puppysnuppy]

I’ve been in the pentagon foodcourt and I can confirm that there’s a Taco Bell and other fast food brands

[@burpmcgurp9176]

The one check box you forgot to account for is pilot training. There is no way Iran has skilled enough pilots to maneuver the enemy fighters they way they did, even if they are 5th generation.

[@universalpower419]

Why not?

[@teutonicgroyper6559]

That, plus the mountainous region of Iran is actually further inland than pretty much all of Belarus, which he ruled out for being too far inland...

[@edmardisla8492]

Skill =/= training.

[@OVI-Wan-Kenobi-8]

You obviously never seen Iron Eagle LOL

[@1992AC]

There could have been trained mercenaries flying those planes.

[@MichaelNeff-zb8id]

I just realized that I've been watching your KZbin channel ever since you started

[@migueldevera5080]

Matpat whenever a new movie comes out: "There are movies like you in every generation, and I've theorized with every last one of them"

[@NexeL_NKC]

That's the best comment I've read all day lol. Mihaly's line is so perfect like this.

[@DasBlarcy]

Was not expecting an ace combat reference here

[@TacticalAnthony]

"Those who get untheorized by Matpat start to think they're invincible. I bet you do, too, buddy."

[@blu5021]

@@NexeL_NKC we need a matpat project wingmane video.

[@armoturo7578]

[@thewhiteknight6169]

When I first saw the movie, I had my suspicions that it was based on Iran the second I heard "nuclear enrichment facility," only to seal the deal with the fact that the enemy had F-14s on the front line. Iran is pretty much the only country that currently uses the F-14, so starting with that point would have made this video much shorter. Still, its so nice to see a Top Gun Maverick video, so thanks!

[@zacharybaker770]

not pretty much the only country, the only country. not even the US uses them anymore.

[@emlynselene1096]

I suspected it due to the bit about breaking international treaties (I thought of the Iran Nuclear Deal specifically). A lot of the other stuff MattPat mentioned further sealed the deal

[@Lucas-lq9cn]

su 57 means it has to be russia as a part

[@Lucas-lq9cn]

russia and iran both

[@michaelrosenblum7950]

Thought the EXACT same thing nearly to a T, but I first about the F14s being used by only Iran (I’m a military aviation nerd and knew this as background knowledge before watching the film)

[@Tristan-of1cl]

That is insane that you figured that out! gonna miss you man

[@mangodancin4512]

I love how the rooster maverick love hate relationship was a driving part of the film

[@koc988]

People who are military aviation geeks and have been paying attention to politica probably picked up immediately that mountains next to a coast and F-14 and a desire to attain nuclear weapons mean it's Iran they are the only nation that has that combo and and especially the F-14 in a *reportedly flyable condition

[@RRninja-jq6lp]

They are flying them. They have recently reactivated couple of them with help of 3d printing. Apparently they have 34 flying units. Thanks to russian supply of remanufactured engines and compatible missiles Iranians plan on flying them to 2030's

[@josh_jc_cheng]

as a military aviation geek, I thought matt will come up with another answer, but a simple "Iran operates F-14" wastes 14 minutes of my time lmfao

[@wavebuilder14udc75]

Yeahh i don’t wanna sound like a wise-a$$ but i think this one was kinda easy to guess haha, im an avgeek and as soon as i heard they had F14s i immediately thought Iran when i watched the movie. But to those who aren’t in the Aviation community or to those who aren’t familiar with politics, this is a cool way to break it down i guess. Perhaps the enemy in the original movie is a little more elusive.

[@mighty_bomber5907]

Thought exactly the same thing.

[@Seastallion]

F-14 was definitely a dead giveaway.

[@mohammadshaaban1771]

I guess the pentagon is developing anti-exploding toilets

[@thenextgeneration4303]

How much money do I have to pay to get that

[@brandonotto1461]

Lol

[@brahmkumariekowlessar7347]

This was a bot zone

[@revillus8173]

@@brahmkumariekowlessar7347 Warzone*

[@itsjustbenji.]

As a Washingtonian, it was pretty cool to find out that some of Top Gun 2, my most favorite movie currently, was filmed in the state I live in!

[@dingusmann3003]

i like how matt couldve just used the fact they had tomcats as an immediate decider but he makes it more complicated than it has to be. though one detail- matt says theyre using F18 hornets at 10:09, thats not entirely accurate. If we wanna be pedantic, theyre using F/A 18 E Superhornets

[@jmuench420]

To me it was incredibly obvious that the answer was Iran as I was watching the movie. Iran has been enriching uranium and the US and Israel have alluded to the possibility of a strike on their nuclear facilities. Then the F-14 was a dead give away. The snowy mountains did throw me off but apparently Iran fits the bill there as well

[@MrWarrenRB]

Agreed, it’s not rocket science. Iran has been trying to enrich uranium for a long time.

[@frostdeeer]

But how do you explain Su-57 tho? At the moment only russia operates them

[@mobiusflammel9372]

@@frostdeeer The movie doesn't have to be 1:1 with reality. There is no nation on Earth that has both the F-14 and an Su-57. The Russians arguably don't even have production Su-57's. Iran is the closest fit though.

[@frostdeeer]

@@mobiusflammel9372 you are right. Also I have questions about S-125 since iran doesn't use them either but yeah, if you look at all the data in the film it is probably iran they are fighting against

[@thefolder69]

@@frostdeeer Russia doesn't operate the Su-57 either, since they aren't in production yet. honestly they probably won't be for quite a while. but movies are less interesting when the antagonists have realistic tech...

[@xTriniT]

When I saw the movie I originally thought it would’ve been China, but Iran would also make sense given the terrain. As always great video Matt 👍

[@user-lk2ex7ng8r]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео🇷🇺):....kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoPXoHh8p8R7irM

[@osmosisjones4912]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaLSloRth52nqas is finally here

[@BullGator-kd6ge]

China already has nukes so no dice

[@ramonandrajo6348]

I am in favor of Iran having nuclear weapons; It is always good to defend yourself from the bad guys, that is USA and Israel.

[@Frontier327]

@@ramonandrajo6348 Nukes are bad for anyone to have.

[@mikethegoo]

Of course it's Arstotzka! GLORY GREATEST!

[@somehighlights2851]

Having a food court inside the Pentagon kinda makes sense. I remember reading some book (Maybe Clancy) where the bad guys or a journalist finds out there's something going on in the military becauseof a lot of food delivery to the Pentagon late in the evening.

[@chrisvossler8795]

When I first read the title, my initial assumption was that the "hidden enemy" would be G-forces!

[@Cinkodacs]

Yeah that hypersonic turn Mav did at the beginning... probably way over 10G. More like 20 or 30... at least.

[@kalle5548]

@@Cinkodacs I don’t remember it, but the Swedish JAS39 Gripen has a soft limiter at 9G and allow the pilot to continue to 12G before hitting a hard limiter, so not entirely realistic structurally in a spy plane, the pilot could realistically do 12G at least with proper Gstrain and Gsuit

[@chickaboom163]

Finally! Ever since watching the movie such a question had been bugging me. Especially when I couldn't identify the tags while watching. Still doesn't fill the gap of finding out the Darkstar wasn't in any way a legitimate plane. Rather by the looks of it based around the stealth plane of urban legend called the Aurora. I would still rather choose that design over the more real SR-72 concepts.

[@wolfergaming409]

Long comments

[@wh0_am_152]

If not related to the SR72 project (which is supposed to be autonomous or remotely controlled) it is probably more related to the ongoing NGAD program. Now likely darkstar is just a one off as they say. P.S. Iran was the only nation that the U.S. sold F14s to.

[@110100111000]

Decided to look up C&C Generals Aurora quotes so I might as well post the link. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGHSkoGGntKNq68

[@jamesrosewell9081]

The Darkstar was invented for the movie by actual Skunkworks designers and the prop plane actually fooled Chinese spy satellites for a bit

[@JoshDownin]

The Darkstar is the SR-72. It has the looks, and both the Darkstar and SR-72 are hypersonic programs

[@nicolas2976]

Quite an interesting video, and well presented. Although, I’m surprised you did not mention the Mi-24 Maverick faces when he crashed. Would it change the potential answer ?

[@James_new]

This is me rewatching one of my favourite videos from the matpat era😢

[@Koda4507]

Really happy to see MatPat know about Papers, Please. It's a great game. Edit: wow, this is the first time I’ve gone over 50 likes, let alone 300, thanks y’all for the like, it means a lot.

[@Koda4507]

I mean, it’s short and subtle, but it’s there

[@jason4443]

@@fighter_750 Way to show you didn't finish the video before commenting, lol.

[@trentacion7603]

@@Koda4507 definitely not subtle

[@Koda4507]

@@trentacion7603 know what, yeah. I’ll retract my statement

[@gamerafton]

he played it before i think since mark and jack played it

[@SilverViper219]

As an Iranian native, as I saw the movie I immediately knew where this was supposed to be! You're right on the money Matt! Just one correction, although it's written as IRAN, it is NOT pronounced "I-Ran", the correct pronunciation is "E-Run". I know, confusing... but that's how that is!

[@shturm602]

TIL that Iran has terrain like that

[@heatengine9283]

More like 'E-raan'

[@willarterberry3392]

@@shturm602 it's a common misconception that the mid-east is all just a big hot desert with lots of camels

[@alahsiaboi8909]

Showing the appropriate pronounciation is not confusing dude

[@dolphingoreeaccount7395]

Wait THAT'S how you pronounce it? And of all people I should have guessed- I have an "a" in my name and often pronounce it that way (American) Then again, I don't speak Farsi

[@iwanwebb6333]

Just had a thought. Did Matpat take into account the drop tanks and how they increase the range of super hornets?

[@TheMusicTheorists18]

MatPat, I love you and Top Gun and you saying you dislike the OG, it hurts, but you do you

[@bradyhughes4831]

Me and my brother are both military fanatics. My father was also in the air force to. It was very fun to watch top gun and we loved pointing out some of the things in it like how Maverick flys by the tower, and If you did that in real life, you'd be kicked out of the Air Force. Basically, Maverick actually wouldn't be here

[@inorite4553]

Buzzing the Tower would lead to him being relieved of duty and court martialed

[@NightmareShadows13]

Legal Eagle did a great video on that. Maverick would be lucky if he was court-martialed and dishonorably discharged. If they really were at war, he could have been executed.

[@mobius7089]

@@NightmareShadows13 hahahahah, yeah no

[@bradyhughes4831]

@LakehuntistEpic what

[@monroerobbins7551]

First he defies the odds on the mission, let’s see if he can defy the odds of not getting kicked out of the Air Force.

[@joecaljapan]

While watching the movie, I always thought (like many online) the nation was Iran. But to have it explained with this amount of detail I wasn't thinking about was a joy to watch.

[@wilkgr]

Yeah same. Also had to think of stuxnet haha

[@monroerobbins7551]

12:08 in the most masculine way possible: rock paper scissors.

[@babch0]

I think if there will be another top gun, maybe it will be about the pilot that they were fighting against because that Dodge was sick lol

[@MGRMoviesLOL]

From the first viewing of the movie i was already convinced it was Iran. But additional fact that makes Iran the enemy in the movie, is the fact that the fictional mig-28s in the first movie are actually F-5s, which Iran ALSO operates to this day. they only reverse engineered them and called it the HESA Saeqeh.

[@user-lk2ex7ng8r]

MatPat is a brain burner!(Правдивое видео🇷🇺):....kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoPXoHh8p8R7irM

[@osmosisjones4912]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaLSloRth52nqas is finally here

[@shengkunlin5658]

I was going to say the same, it’s the only one to operate f14s so it’s a easy pick.

[@AICW]

But the F-5 is used by tons of nations. I've read a good theory that the enemy in the first movie was actually South Yemen, a now defunct communist state. It was an Indian Ocean state and flew F-5s. South Yemen today no longer exists after it and North Yemen were united together as Yemen in 1990.

[@Eagle-od1im]

For those wondering how Iran operates F-14s, prior to the Iranian Revolution of 1979, the US-friendly government had managed to arrange a purchase of 80 F-14 Tomcats along with their weaponry and equipment. When the revolution happened they still retained these F-14s to this day but only have around 24 currently active.

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

It's like how a lot of Al Qaeda's equipment was our from when Osama was fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan.

[@Copperkaiju]

@@DISTurbedwaffle918 Didn't we also give a bunch of weapons to Venezuela?

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

@@Copperkaiju We've given weapons to basically everyone lol

[@HarrisonGoldfarb]

Just a quick note: When they launched their revolution, they only got 79 of their jets, and the US canceled the shipment of the 80th plane and kept it. Also, this is why there are no more flying F-14s anywhere in the world except for Iran, because the US government in 2006 when they retired the Tomcat, feared that Iran would get spare parts to keep their jets in service.

[@AA-xo9uw]

~40 in flyable condition with the IRIAF. They lost one back in June near Isfahan.

[@braydenb8401]

Wow Impressive it’s a very convincing film theory.

[@kknnetty]

It cant be Iran. They don´t operate the s-125 missile system seen in the movie.

[@itamic]

I am here to confirm that the food court still exists as I have a family member who actually works in the food court lmao

[@silent1547]

I still think Matt Pat failed to answer the question “Why does it matter if we know who the enemy is?” In their review of the movie, Chapo Trap House comes to the conclusion that the anonymity of the enemy is essential in order for the studio to create a nostalgic unifying feeling that calls back to simpler times when most Americans were not very informed about our government’s foreign opposition, and rather were willing to accept a blind patriotic stance against those they believed to be threats to the nation. In obscuring the enemy, the movie is able to recreate this we against them divide where we the viewers are all forced to be on the same side due to the simple fact that we do not know enough about our enemies to question how they are being presented to us by our leaders.

[@ballofmayo5132]

It really is interesting that to enjoy something like this, we have to blind ourselves to what is happening. Ignorance is bliss sometimes.

[@Jaspperr]

genocide denier says what

[@metronomemusic7165]

well said.

[@Lawrence330]

In the modern era, it's better for worldwide release to NOT specifically alienate a foreign audience. IIRC, the remake of Red Dawn was going to use China as the baddies, then decided against it for globalization reasons, i.e. to sell tickets in China.

[@athleticguybuzz1520]

That worries me cuz the studio who made the movie where bought out by china

[@godismyjudge4964]

I’m a fan of the F-14 primarily because of Top Gun. I instantly fell in love with the transforming wing design and fortunately for me just about every Ace Combat game has that jet as an unlockable! When I finally get some spare change I’m definitely buying Maverick on blue Ray. Hopefully there will be a bundle with the original too!

[@gramiticallyuncorrectchann6416]

There’s also a top gun dlc

[@lukereyes6266]

and project wingman has an F14 but it's not called the f14 due to copyright

[@Sekir80]

I liked Top Gun, of course, but for a Tomcat film I'm always falling back to Final Countdown.

[@lordbloxify]

( The movie didn't took place in Iran By the way!! ) The sequel to the 1986 classic that featured breathtaking fighter jet sequences and launched the career of Tom Cruise has landed more than three decades after Maverick felt the need for speed. Like its predecessor, Top Gun: Maverick was filmed primarily in San Diego, California, but also in Nevada and Washington State.

[@LBElbee]

According to a calendar that Maverick taps near the very beginning of the film, the movie takes place Oct-Nov of 2019, which is the year the movie was supposed to be released but was put off until 2022.

[@NexeL_NKC]

With this theory on Top Gun, it makes me want a theory on Ace Combat 7 from you, but considering how passionate and knowledgeable the fanbase of Ace Combat is, I fear it turning into another Dark Souls type situation where Matpat is scared off from ever trying to tackle the series again. There's some great theory fodder in Ace Combat that could use an analytical mind like yours, Mat, I just hope that if you do end up making a theory on it, you familiarize yourself very well with the universe and be careful. I don't want any more shade thrown your way.

[@maj.romuloortiz7832]

We won't crucify him, just catapult him off a carrier, jk he should team up with Ace Combat Fan

[@trevorm0329]

Playing that right now, boutta finish the campaign. Absolutely love it

[@Seth9809]

I heard it's a lot better than "HAWK" or whatever.

[@NexeL_NKC]

@@Seth9809 it is better than Tom Clancy’s HAWX, but HAWX is a decent game on its own, same for its sequel. I own both and loved them before I got into Ace Combat. I just don’t have a PlayStation so I can play the old AC games.

[@spasitel1889]

yes yES YES!!! i need this. i literally bought a ps2 to play the "holy Trinity" games. i love ac and matpat makeing a vid on it would be sick

[@miloisacat292]

My favorite scene from this movie is when they are both on the ground after crashing: Maverick: Are you even thinking? You could be killed down here! Rooster: YOU TOLD ME NOT TO THINK! *heavy breathing*

[@tomasmillen]

Don’t forget, *Dramatic arm movement*

[@TotallyNormal347]

@@tomasmillen HA!

[@cybersupreme5711]

Well done man!

[@Biily2314]

Loved the video! Super accurate but one very small correction. Operation Outside the Box wasn’t the mission the movie was based on. It was an Israeli mission in the early 80’s called Operation Opera where then brand new f-16’s bombed a nuclear factory in Iraq.

[@5years16dollars6]

Dude, you would be a legend if you mentioned the meme "Bruce its been five years, you still owe me sixteen dollars"

[@dontreadprofilephoto1728]

Ok dont read my name😑.........

[@dion9876]

I haven't even watched the movie. But I'll support Mat Pat.

[@xcaliberjah]

Yes

[@yuumc3030]

You should it’s amazing

[@lolaglowwe]

@tom thats true

[@tripplordofinconvenience9953]

E

[@yumeno_.]

You NEED to watch it it’s sooo good

[@ethanengelking2492]

Outside the box, Rolling Thunder, Overload you really have to appreciate how countries name their operations

[@maxbrinker9333]

Both tops guns are absolutely amazing

[@Froggo11]

I love the effort Matpat puts in his videos (Tysm for the likes.)

[@tripplordofinconvenience9953]

E

[@AlmyTheAlien]

Everyone always says, "finally it's here!" Nobody ever asks, "why is it finally here?" 😥😭

[@Froggo11]

Why is everyone replying with “Yes it’s here.”?

[@smalltime0]

The first had the soundtrack, Maverick had the nostalgia. The first film was obviously NK, back in the day I argued in bars with my friends about it. But the Iranian Tomcats have been heavily upgraded to the point that Maverick couldn't fly it. Also a lot of them are missing replacement parts. He'd have a better chance flying in a MiG-25. Which would indicate Syria. It is Iran though, obviously. Also the film lacked "Danger Zone", it should have been on loop.

[@chazchoo99]

Danger Zone is literally the first song that plays in the movie, during the montage of jets taking off from and landing on a carrier.

[@PUNISHERMHS_2021]

Danger Zone played in the beginning, first song

[@alekostrovsky9212]

Syrian no have Mig 25

[@smalltime0]

@@chazchoo99 AND IT WASN'T ON LOOP

[@DrumickD]

@@smalltime0 And? You said it lacked it. But it didn’t.

[@jan554cro4]

The fact you neded 14 mins to confirm the theory while i new it before the vid cuz of f14 is just funny

[@barthennin6088]

A long way to come to an obvious solution...but the detail is so interesting!

[@leafwart18000]

For some reason I have it embedded in my memory, that they explicitly state that the mission is targeted at Iranian territory. Now I see this, where everyone is agreeing that they did not ever explicitly state who the enemy really was. So, if they really didn’t, I had somehow subconsciously figured out it was Iran, and then tricked myself into thinking that they just say it in the movie

[@josephchristie3814]

i remember that scene too, it was while they were on the carrier, i thought i was going crazy lol i'm glad that somebody else heard it.

[@Polarniji]

Yep, I heard them stating the location then as well.

[@chazchoo99]

Or, more likely, you slipped into a parallel universe where one of the minor differences happened to be that they didn't mention it in the movie. #MandelaEffect . . . . . This is sarcasm btw.

[@kevinsiu3769]

@@josephchristie3814 WAIT WHAT

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Many people misheard "uranium enrichment facility'" as "Iranian enrichment facility".

[@whatsthematter8767]

0:23 the tank in the logo is actually a ZSU-23-4 "Shilka", a Russian SPAA

[@Amikhan457]

And the guns are russian PKMs too

[@peacemaker8292]

ur mom

[@whatsthematter8767]

@Hovoverse 🅥 I wish there was a day I could say "Finally it's here, the youtube update that removed comment bots"

[@EvanRustMakes]

Fellow war thunder player?

[@whatsthematter8767]

@@EvanRustMakes yes my friend

[@sfsa3134]

I feel really respected as an Aviation Fan.

[@garyhill529]

It's great to see more and more people recognizing the stereotypes. The Middle East is really nothing like we in the west have been taught. This video pointed out even basic geography is misunderstood. The big one in recent memory was Genshin Impact and its new Sumeru region.

[@geokou7645]

Matpat talking about geography and geopolitics? This is like a dream come true.

[@IGOTBEERZ]

Matpat , we need a hellva boss theory, the 1st season 2 episode dropped and it has so much lore to the series 👏

[@F_e_l_i_x_]

"Fifth Generation Fighters" It was a warning to them all!

[@manontheradio2647]

The rogue nation’s logo doesn’t just match papers please it also matches ace from rainbow six siege and his base camo for his weapons

[@joshgerber718]

Mat Pat’s descriptions of both Top Gun movies was 100% SPOT ON! 😂

[@Telepelort]

Your theory’s are the most detailed things on the whole of KZbin and you always have evidence to back you up. If I have a bad day your videos always cheer me up within seconds and I would like to thank you for that matpatt. Love your work

[@osmosisjones4912]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJ_IZmmao7Wnq5o is finally here

[@Av-te7ze]

This is a very ignorant comment, just straight up wrong..

[@mrosa7515]

Director : we gotta make a video bout F14 Writer : what about Iran?

[@Sentinel_SCP]

After that ending, I now use that logo on all aircraft In Ace Combat 7 and pretend to be an Arstotzkan air force pilot. The game already takes place in an alternate universe with different countries, so it works pretty well.

[@TheTrueMorse64]

0:44 My complaint about the original Top Gun is that the dog fighting is pretty hard to follow, Top Gun Maverick fixes that!

[@Seastallion]

I literally knew most everything described in this video as I was sitting in the theater watching the movie. Having operational F-14 Tomcats was a dead giveaway right off the bat. I actually said as much in theater, telling the people I was with that Iran was the only possible candidate.

[@201hastings]

Sucks to be next to the guy talking the whole movie

[@Seastallion]

@@201hastings Wow, like 5 whole seconds out of the entire movie. Bummer. 🙄

[@zeal2814]

1:51 Nice JWD at 3thd

[@lilyireland5467]

Matt pat, how could you not love top gun

[@piplup10203854]

I felt the same exact way about this movie, I didn't really like the original but my dad and I watched this one and we loved it, we reminisced about our time in service and it became a good movie for us and we ended up loving it.

[@awkwardgoatart553]

Me during the video: Wow, this is a really interesting theory. I always love hearing new things from MatPat and his channels Me during the last 30 seconds of the video: GLORY TO ARSTOTZKA!!!!

[@thebigblippity5221]

John Hamm’s Cyclone made a reference to operation Outside the Box in the scene where they are looking at the recruits and he says, “ We need to think outside the box”. Coincidence? You tell me haha

[@davidmontroy3408]

I'm surprised you left out the GPS coordinates. There was another KZbin video that detailed Maverick, and it shows the coordinates in the film, but when tracking down where those coordinates actually point to, it is "Point Nemo", which is in the middle of the Pacific ocean, the furthest point on Earth from any land mass whatsoever.

[@dragonflybug1577]

Never thought Id see the day that Matpat does a theory based on recent real world events for a video, and its on TOP GUN MAVERICK!!! This film was what got me so interested into military planes and arcade games with military aircraft like the Ace Combat series and Project Wingman

[@LordVader626]

3:38 totally missed the opportunity to say "I feel the need, the need to know!"

[@excalibruh1380]

imagine saying you work at the pentagon but you just work at taco bell there

[@LH44EVER]

i feel like rainbolt would be able to identify the country within 0.1 seconds

[@chriskopp1361]

Now he just needs to figure out why they didn't load B1s with ground penetrating munitions and use them in the attack.

[@vladstr100]

Conveniently explained away by "gps" blocking in the area preventing lock-on

[@cobalt3738]

@@vladstr100 Conveniently ignores laser guided bombing systems, y'know...the kind the F/A-18 Super hornets used in the film. Love the movie though.

[@fadelsukoco3092]

Mostly because the entire operation in the film is being run by the Navy, and the B-1 is owned by the Air Force.

[@TheRealPhantomStalks]

Fun Fact: Top Gun: Maverick Premiered at the USS Midway Museum, and one of my mom's friends works there! (my mom told me her friend got to meet Tom Cruise himself). I also heard there was some trouble getting it to premiere there, but I might have to ask my mom again on that one lol.

[@AA-xo9uw]

There were three "premieres" on May 4th in San Diego. #1 was at the base theater on North Island. #2 was on the Midway and #3 was at the Civic Theater.

[@yigittokus5116]

Btw the fighter jet you called the f-14 tomcats was actually an f-15 eagle 5:29

[@yusufbektas1961]

Uh no thats clearly a F-14 model

[@Pluto_protogen]

Now that I think about it a lot of Soviet fighters names start with f. The mig 21 fishbed, mig 23 flogger, su 27 flanker, mig 29 fulcrum and su 57 felon apparently