Film Theory: Star Wars, How The Mandalorian PROVES the Empire was Right!

[@jaimelannister1797]

They even reduced crime rate on Alderaan to zero

[@ct183]

yeah thanks sheev!

[@HotCoals]

Too soon

[@Master_Skywalker09]

Yes my master

[@HotCoals]

@Lord Waluigi TOO. SOON.

[@haicoai6269]

Gyes ohkzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@bensfanclubpresident2614]

I once saw “The empire did nothing wrong” written on a bathroom ceiling

[@darlasteindler3539]

@Fnaf fox Fan Why tho

[@liker-qd4fz]

Me who wrote that on the ceeling of my former school's bathroom : *Odin is with us!*

[@RandomGuy0400]

I once saw an image of a bathroom stall with "you look nice today" written on the inside of the door.

[@liker-qd4fz]

@Christian Salluce Maybe a minecraft mod that replaces Mob spawners with Toilets and all mobs are Skletons disguised as stormtroopers , with arrows being lazers and blasters as bows.

[@KetaminePizzaGhost]

@Corn Peyton like having both a swastika, and a hammer and sickle next to each other

[@kaisermaximal8123]

Reminds me of a quote from Genghis Khan: "Conquering the world on horseback is easy, it is dismounting and governing it that is difficult"

[@hiesisme907]

Also Hamilton the musical said wining is easy governing is harder

[@erenjaeger4669]

True that was what happened to gengesh Khan empire

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

What were your thoughts on Season 2 Episode 7?

[@rashidahmed3527]

The empire is like the russian federation of today and putin is seen as the ultimate leader and tsar.if you don,t believe me just look at palpatine and putin more properly,both are trying their best to bring order and peace to the galaxy and russia which the jedi,s and western leader never wanted.they are only interested in collecting resources from weak and helpless people and alien for their own personal gain and nothing else.so when the empire was fallen the native alien of their planets were being robbed,hunted,raped,murdered and their resources taken from them and that,s why the first order was form to try to bring order and peace to the galaxy by removing the republic who are the real monsters and not the first order

[@kodaxmax]

Counter argument; ghengis just sucked at governing and basically just delegated everything to his children and generals

[@colinivey1546]

Fun fact, Alderaan had an extremely powerful private military, that if it had survived, would have been a huge thorn in the empires side.

[@dafoex]

Alderaan was also separatist. Granted, that could just be a 51% attack on every other political view on the planet, but at least 51% of the people voted in a separatist government and were not innocent in the Empire's eyes. Also, Alderaan had a small population, Obi-Wan only says that "millions of voices" were silenced. It depends on how you're counting, but earth currently has billions of inhabitants.

[@shelldie8523]

​@@dafoexI don't remember which episode but Cara dune mentiones a number when talking to the Chinese pilot guy.

[@philv2529]

Well then it was a good thing for the Empire that they blew Alderan up

[@AlechiaTheWitch]

Lets not forget in legends they beat the sith in a fist fight.

[@Highly-grounded]

Almost like house atreides from dune

[@annaharrington8397]

In season two, mayfield says something along the lines of “It doesn’t matter who rules to these people. Empire, republic, they’re all just people taking over their homes”

[@knightbot23]

Man i love that episode so much mayfield in season 2 was so good

[@iszox2973]

Also Mayfield in this episode: Remembers Operation Cinder and just shoots an imperial for beeing pure evil

[@horatioyen256]

yes thankyou for mentioning this

[@edgemaxxer1573]

It's true. Colonized countries don't care who's ruling them bad guys or good guys they just see them as invaders taking their stuff

[@Lord-Inquisitor]

@@edgemaxxer1573 Don't care? No wonder they don't have spines enough to defend their stuff in the first place. That's their first mistake, right there.

[@raptorzeraora2632]

About alderann, palpatine got pretty mad when it blew up, he said that tarkin was lucky he died on the death star, I wonder what palpatine was planning on doing to tarkin if he survived

[@eatonkuntz]

Also, alderaan had a very low population and yes, some were innocent but it was also a military target that was hosting, funding, and leading a violent rebellion. The USA nuked two entire manufacturing cities in WW2, firebombed helpless puppet countries, invaded the Middle East for decades, etc. All in the name of peace and order to minimize the loss of life. So "millions of voices silenced" on alderaan seems like the price to save an entire galaxy from further violence.

[@nigelxd3735]

Actually wasn't Palpatine from Alderan, maybe I'm confusing it with Nabu or Corosant

[@knightofblackfyre7950]

@@nigelxd3735 Palpatine was from Naboo I think

[@nigelxd3735]

@@knightofblackfyre7950 oh, nevermind then

[@Revan-293]

@@eatonkuntz Alderaan had a massive population, sure is wasn’t on coruscaunt levels of population but still a lot

[@Banana-ip7hr]

"Yo dude the empire is pretty chill , maybe you can like , join it or something." so Darth Vader is telling the truth

[@i3igbro667]

Underrated.

[@AndrewAce.]

*Later Vader:* _"I LIED. As I have from the beginning..."_

[@thomashaeyen6942]

[[3:32]] **shows the flag of the galactic republic when discussing the empire and shows some random monstrosity when discussing the republic**

[@ryandunham1047]

I literally just read that in Beavis and Butthead's voices! XD

[@smartfrenandromax6651]

He gave an option, like he did to Obi-Wan. A censored plot is, he also gave an option to the Jedi Younglings. See My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic's "School Raze".

[@NanashiAkai]

About the empire and the ewoks, I'm not sure about current canon, but in legends the ewoks and the empire were certainly not on good terms by the time the rebels got there. This one elderly ex-stormtrooper even recounts the events like a survival horror story, slowly losing more and more members of his platoon to the dreaded ewoks. In the end when he was captured, he begged for the rebels to take him instead of leaving him to the ewoks.

[@AlechiaTheWitch]

Yeah. They sorta ate them alivr and hjng them. Not "friendly"

[@aaronburkeen6409]

Well that might explain why the stormtroopers were leaving them alone. They wanted no part of that.

[@Woopor]

I think that Ex Stormtrooper musta played too much Ewok Hunt

[@shaydowsith348]

This is true. Ewoks were known to eat sapient beings.

[@koharumi1]

They did want to cook the rebels when they first met. They probably just wanted to have chicken again.

[@EvanJTao]

“I promise I won’t get all political” Me three drinks later:

[@nabeelfarooq3573]

I’m wondering what is the red thing on your profile pic can you tell me?

[@pcdog7027]

@@nabeelfarooq3573a broken heart I think

[@nabeelfarooq3573]

@@pcdog7027 k thanks

[@alexandrothealright9818]

@@nabeelfarooq3573 it’s a variant of the logo for Green Day’s American Idiot. A symbol for Rage and Love or something like that if I remember correctly.

[@nabeelfarooq3573]

@@alexandrothealright9818 nice

[@morganszymanski9006]

So what you're saying is... Winning was easy, governing's harder?

[@kh2b573]

Communism moment

[@iaculat]

𝙝𝙤𝙬 𝙙𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪, 𝙞 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙜𝙤𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙨𝙤𝙣𝙜 𝙤𝙪𝙩 𝙤𝙛 𝙢𝙮 𝙝𝙚𝙖𝙙.

[@theamericanbrotha]

Agreed

[@patrickcurtis642]

Cough cough (French revolution) cough cough

[@akunlama89]

Mongol moment

[@Xwii610]

Leia: I'm on a diplomatic mission to alderan Vader *having just watched rogue one*: 🤨

[@m.c.martin]

Vader: Then why are you in the Outer Rim in the opposite of the Galaxy from Alderaan?

[@LegoBob4123]

@@m.c.martin she is taking the scenic route

[@Order-si7nd]

Vader I know it’s sus but we can always use the truth gas to get the truth

[@aroberuto]

That's one of many things that why rogue one doesn't work

[@aaronfidelis3188]

Vader (in Palpatine's voice): "How unfortunate it is that you are attempting to deceive me..."

[@raccoonsarecool9888]

I think I also read somewhere that while jedi aren't allowed to have connections or communicate to friends of family after they have been "taken in for training", stormtroopers of the empire only aren't allowed to communicate to others when they are in the death star because it has to stay hidden.

[@jeremiahsnelson5644]

I mean. The difference is that one is a military organization, the other is a religious one.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

Also, Anakin went and visited his mother, remember? While the jedi teach detachment, they clearly do not force it and nobody is prohibited from leaving the order for good if they want. Anakin and his mom both wanted him to become a jedi.

[@loafstudios8811]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel yeah, he wasnt allowed to, he was meant to stay on Naboo

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

@@loafstudios8811 He was supposed to stay on Naboo, because that was his assignment. That doesn't necessarily mean that he was forbidden from visiting his family, though. Granted, it certainly looks that way, but I don't think they ever explicitly mentioned it in any piece of media that's canon.

[@greenmountainhistory7335]

Yeah, I mean Gary even has a daughter that he brings to work with him sometimes.

[@MARCUSK298]

They had slavery under the empire.. they committed genocide on geonosis to build the death star

[@an8strengthkobold360]

and the wookies

[@wariorjimenez7306]

Also they never beat the huts there criminals. Order i dont see.

[@anonymousapproximation8549]

@@wariorjimenez7306 Because taking down the mafia in a single city didn't cause any problems _whatsoever,_ much less the interstellar mafia.

[@greenskittles8028]

I don’t see a problem

[@ericposey4124]

They had slavery under the republic too. Maybe not institutionalized slavery, but so widespread that nothing was really done about it. And that's ignoring Droids which I would argue is slavery too. Really what needs to be explored was how the CIS were the good guys in the prequel trilogy.

[@SystemZ3RO]

When the client says the Empire improves every system it touches, he's not wrong. Just doesn't state who benefits from it. I wouldn't say Mimban, Kashyyyk, Lothal, Mustafar, Geonosis, Ryloth, Mon Cala, or Mandalore where improved by the Empire so much as they improved the Empire of the backs of the inhabitants.

[@SlashCraftJack]

The Empire itself benefits, just not the locals.

[@bowenjudd1028]

What about Coruscant.

[@davidfrazier8320]

Don't forget Illum, Kamino, MonCala, Mandalore, Dantooine, Tattooine.Basically ever planet they've touched. And the fact that the Empire would send scouts looking for any force sensitive child they could to corrupt them to the Dark Side. Sorry this theory still doesn't hold too much water. But hey its from a certain point of view.

[@SystemZ3RO]

​@@bowenjudd1028 There isn't enough content from either Canon or Legends to see how the day to day for the typical Coruscant citizen post Clone Wars/Pre-Endor, though I would imagine it'd still be the same as it was before the Empire for anyone living in the lower levels. AKA Still pretty crappy. Any "good" the Empire brought to a system was only for the best interest of the Empire itself. whether or nor the locals benefited from that was of little interest to the Empire.

[@haicoai6269]

Goh yeskzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@ryderfletcher8670]

If you’ve read the book “lost stars” it shows multiple planets exploited for all its resources, entire species put into slavery and a complete disregard for all life including their own officers while the galaxy was under imperial rule.

[@Stiksta]

There's zero cohesiveness in expanded universe content honestly. One author can be brainwashed by the movie's with the propaganda that the empire is this evil malevolent force. So they'll write their stories as such. The other author can see the movies for what they are and pay more attention to create consistent narratives. I can see why Disney wanted to just throw it all out into the trash even though I completely disagree with how they did it.

[@sonnic1995]

@@Stiksta That's the thing. From just the movies, as it should be, he made this theory, and it fits. Not saying comics and all that shouldn't exist, but from the context of the movies all of them, Lucas, "modern Lucas" and Disney did a shitty job portraying the empire as being pure evil (in terms of how this video was able to put the theory) except for the Tarkin speech or wathever, pretty much everything was just from the movies. Long story short, my point is he has a valid point for this theory saying the good guys are the one you see thru certain point of view.

[@ZulatobariGreatforge]

@@sonnic1995 I think the Genosha massacre and slavery stuff was remade canon? Or at least the massacre bit in a comic line.

[@haicoai6269]

Goh yeskzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@boof606]

I mean so did most countries on earth but we don’t really talk about that

[@sanccex313]

Bro palpatine is just chillin in a chair, he doesn't has a luxurious life

[@RobT192]

Are you joking? Yeah and the King of England lives a average life

[@bassboi02]

Something that wasn't mentioned that is actually integral: the second Death Star was purposely made to look unfinished to trick the rebels. When the battle of endor happened the second Death Star was in fact finished, which is why they had to disable the shield and why Sidious was present in the battle station

[@AzraelThanatos]

Not finished, but the majority of its systems were online. They just delayed the completion of the superstructure in order to complete the trap. It was planned to be finished later on.

[@f-jayplayz6236]

@@AzraelThanatos yeah the weapons were what weren’t supposed to be finished but they ended up being “fully operational” the station itself wasn’t done

[@gangzhu9932]

palpatine did have a fleet of star destroyers jump in later... and he had tons of imperial forces capturing the rebel ground team... and he also did seem to know the rebels were going to comme attack the death star

[@bassboi02]

@@gangzhu9932 Exactly. So he lured them him tricking them into thinking the death star was still being constructed

[@ultimate_capper3643]

This makes literally zero since if you remember HOW they destroyed the second Death Star. They literally went INSIDE an exhaust port that brought them to the core. You would think that if the station was actually finished or if it was made to LOOK like it was unfinished that they would at least remove the problem that destroyed the first Death Star. But no they didn’t, which indicates that it WASN’T finished. Plus do you seriously expect me to believe that they likely would’ve finished the Death Star when the first one took 19 years to build, and that one was significantly smaller than the second one???

[@christianmarshal6117]

In Luke’s defense the Ewoks were planning to cook and eat him and his friends...

[@AndOnliCar]

I mean.. they did invade their place, didn't they?

[@JimBoi8437]

I mean he didn't have to drag them into the war he could of just mind trick them into letting them go and that's it

[@christianmarshal6117]

@@AndOnliCar the Ewoks were working with the Rebellion before that. A lot of them died bringing the information about the second Death Star to the Rebellion in the third movie.

[@korey8180]

@@JimBoi8437 he didn't know how to do that yet did they????? I'm not sure lol

[@shallbric6160]

Yeah

[@TheInspirationalMind]

5:28 You guys put First Order Stormtroopers in the background instead of Imperial Stormtroopers. Just a mistake or... something more? 🤔

[@Brandon-dy8us]

Oh God conspiracy theories on a channel about conspiracy theories... conspiracyception

[@TheInspirationalMind]

@@Brandon-dy8us LOL 😂

[@Ruby-Doc]

*_[hmm]_*

[@M0no]

He must not be a true Star Wars fan(I can’t believe I have to say this, but this is a joke)

[@Dilly958]

Hello there (;

[@Archfiend_Sushi7746]

Also, most of the stormtroopers were relatively harmless, just doing their duty as soldiers. They’re either normal conscripted people from the Galaxy, or clones that are loyal to the empire’s cause of social order. It’s not like they’re hostile in every encounter, like pointed out with the Ewoks or how they are on Lothal in Rebels.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

Yes, Stormtroopers would never do horrible things like... you know.... Murdering an entire sand crawler of jawas because they *might* have seen something. Or burning an elderly farmer couple alive for the same reason. You know, if you ignore all the war crimes stormtroopers do, they are basically harmless, it's true.

[@BookDefender777]

​@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegelHe said most. "I was just following orders" never stopped being an excuse even in our amazing democracy and unfortunately as the video stated we need boots on the ground to keep people safe otherwise they fall victim to violent crime even more

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

@@BookDefender777 The point is that it doesn't matter if they are not murdering civilians *every* day, what matters is that they are all going to do it, when ordered to. And they will be, because the Empire is as evil as it gets. "We need the stormtroopers" makes no sense, because Tattooine was still a hive of scum and villainy even with, and probably especially, with the Empire there, because they did nothing to stop crime lords like Jabba, while burning civilians alive the moment they *might* become a problem. Tattooine looked way nicer in the prequels before the Empire took over, in fact.

[@BookDefender777]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel That’s not what the video said. Did you even watch it? You get any authoritarian party going on the offensive and you’ll find they end up committing some atrocities The Rebels included.

[@midgetydeath]

They’re not conscripted. In fact, if I remember correctly the Empire never used conscription.

[@IN_ari]

Film theorys new theory: order 66 was secretly a good thing

[@BrotherTheory]

That would be mind blowing, awesome and weird at the same time.

[@baronvondarkltd5183]

Wouldn’t be surprised if he did one at this point lmao

[@Blue-mr7fe]

It brought balance to the force

[@ColdDoomOfficial]

It got rid of the non-secular branch of government controlling the rest of the government for its own religious beliefs, it absolutely was a good thing Edit: meant non-secular, accidentally said secular

[@Josiahdacoolest]

True it did bring balance

[@noahperley318]

Teacher: What have you learned in this video? Me: MatPat is a sith lord

[@neadst]

A Sith Lord?

[@noahperley318]

@@neadst Yes, the one we’ve been looking for..

[@astaroth_sasazaki_yt]

DarthPat is real

[@Idrinkmilk13]

That is a good thing

[@Mike_Dubo]

But is he the master, or the apprentice?

[@haroldmemphisjr1809]

Yea guys, the empire helped make Alderaan's unemployment rate to 0%.

[@ninjaneb1]

Though the flip side of that is that Alderaan's employment rate is also 0%

[@tbnrrenagade9507]

the empire also prevented over-population on Alderaan.

[@MargoMayhem]

@@tbnrrenagade9507 also solved world hunger

[@emperorvader283]

@@ninjaneb1 can’t have unemployment if you don’t have a population

[@ninjaneb1]

@@emperorvader283 same goes for the original comment, you can't have employment either if you don't have a population

[@shaydowsith348]

would be curious to see your perspective on this after you see what life under the Empire was like in "Andor".

[@charlierock000]

Andor is just Jedi propaganda

[@InsideYourClosetRn69]

@@charlierock000 as a former actor on andor that escaped, yes, andor is indeed propaganda

[@benjaminkelly2733]

Honestly I think most of the empire is still better than the republic

[@Random_chaos_diver]

@@InsideYourClosetRn69agreed being a imperial storm trooper it is rebel propaganda

[@centuriosupernumerarius1625]

Andor must be the propagandistic answer of the new republic to videos such as this.

[@lulua6203]

This reminds me actually of the German government - starting out with the Kaiser's autocracy (the Empire), then the Weimar Republic (the Republic) followed by the Nazis (the First Order).

[@samuelbastable2002]

YES! then whatever comes after the first order would more than likely be cold war germany

[@Sinaeb]

I mean, that's kinda what it was based on

[@BrotherTheory]

Clever :)

[@cillianmclaverty9392]

I mean stormtroopers

[@lulua6203]

@@Sinaeb Yes, Stormtroopers inheriting their name from the real life Stormtroopers (SA) is just one of the direct comparisons that exist within the Star Wars universe and 20th Century Germany

[@benjamindury6580]

You should do a theory on how much the imperial credits are worth.

[@masterjbt]

That’s be nice

[@TheInspirationalMind]

Oooh... I'd totally watch that!

[@LaserBeem]

Yus

[@passarovoador6662]

People spread make this

[@kunyu673]

ya like everyone knows the jedi are bad

[@lakewoodbball]

“Sure, him and his mother live in slavery but they’re getting along just fine” -MatPat 2020

[@MacDaddyBlack546]

what a tone deaf thing for em to say

[@jabanyoclaus391]

LOL

[@chunkyMunky329]

Having a non-violent slave master is better than living in an area where a war lord might murder you and your family at any moment

[@stevenstevenson5501]

MatPat: But what if space Nazis we’re ACTUALLY the good guys?!?!

[@rosemali3022]

I hope you don't defend prison slavery then. Which is baked into the constitution and why the prison industrial complex exists.

[@slynthrax5067]

I think a vital thing he forgot to mention with the Jedi that if you didnt get picked as someones padawan they forced you into child labor camps to produce food for the Jedi temple Obi-Wan was forced into one of those camps for a little while till Qui-Gon decided to train him so even the Jedi you know the good guys enforced slave labor/child labor instead of just sending the kids back to the families they stole them from which reminds me of my favorite quote involving the Jedi and Sith which I cant remember where its from "The Sith are just as bad as the Jedi they are just honest about it"

[@midgetydeath]

The food was for charity, not the Temple, but otherwise basically yes.

[@Gaster_021]

The Jedi never did condone or stop slavery because they actively practiced it

[@WallNutBreaker524]

Who do you trust more? Wolves with bared fangs? Or Wolves in sheep's clothing?

[@thescarletdemon89]

​@@WallNutBreaker524 Neither

[@QuixoteX]

I find it hilarious that people "discover" that there are problems with the republic and the Jedi order in the prequels, when that was literally the point of the prequels.

[@baconeater4133]

I think it's because people irrationally hated the prequels and didn't pay attention, or they only watched them as kids and didn't pick up on all the details until they rewatch them now

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

It's even there in the original trilogy: Luke had to turn against the advice of his Jedi mentors in order to face his father and defeat the Sith.

[@Avenger85438]

And how even worse people who don't care about others, can use these relatively minor problems to create scapegoats for their own agenda.

[@Avenger85438]

@@eyesofthecervino3366 It's a bit more nuanced then that. Since the first time he did that he was defeated and just got in the way of his friends saving Han. The message seems to be that your motives matter just as much as your actions. He wanted to save them because of how their pain affected him and ended badly. Luke wanted to save his father for his sake not his own and it worked out. In comparison. While Anakin wanted to save his loved ones as well he motives and actions where just so selfish and terrible it resulted in disaster. For the galaxy as well as himself.

[@fl00fydragon]

Yes, but the point of the prequels is that stagnating to a status quo of capitalism and ignoring the constant political and economic problems it creates and not moving forward to a better system when your technological advancement allows you to do so creates the conflicts that allow for fascism to take over. The best way to describe the prequels is "why socialists criticize centrist liberals: the trilogy"

[@MrJ567]

"The Empire may be autocratic and heavy-handed in enforcing the law, but they keep the transports running." -Some dude in the Empire.

[@ThemindofOZIII]

Chad dude

[@rhov-anion]

I wonder how many even get that reference.

[@kingcrab7837]

@@rhov-anion ;)

[@coffeedust6837]

And keeps them running on time too!

[@smartfrenandromax6651]

And the economy going. Imperial Credits are good in Tatooine.

[@davidlastname1599]

"Alderaan wasn't real tarkinism" the bad guys would never lie.

[@RoXas4878]

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[@davidlastname1599]

@@RoXas4878 wow that really changed my mind thank you RoXas4878

[@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238]

This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f16Qo4WcmdSKe6s vefvfe

[@davidlastname1599]

@@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238 this some trick to get your video more ad cents?

[@unlondonbobby3336]

Alderaan is Aldergone Because it was alderwrong So now it’s alderdone

[@Raven333W]

I watched the prequel for the first time a couple days ago and I couldn’t stop thinking about how anakin and emperor Palpatine we’re a textbook pairing of NPD (narcissistic personality disorder, Palpatine) and BPD. It’s cool to hear that someone officially came out and gave a anakin the bpd diagnosis because I was like this is a near textbook example of how narcissistic grooming and bpd often coincide. I wonder if the author did it on purpose or accident. Had Palpatine not groomed anakin since the day he met him, he would have turned out a lot different. As well as if the Jedi hadn’t constantly trivialized anakins emotions and experiences, they really Villianized him for existing which put him in a position that allowed the empower to swoop in. It was so hard to watch because bpd is such a stigmatized and misunderstood disorder, it’s hard to look at someone like anakin and recognize that he was really a victim since childhood as well as a villain.

[@donewitheverything2292]

(Republic) Anakin: was a slave with his mother, and is regularly being put in danger for the sake of gambling. His planet is run by crime syndicates. The republics dollar is so weak you couldn’t even use it to buy basic things. Has no real option off the planet or for a better life, except for the fact he is a Jedi. (New Republic) Rey: spends her entire life saving up enough money to buy a single ticket off Jakku. Lives in a tent and eats bread almost exclusively. Has no public services, must know how to defend herself at all times, and must carry a weapon at all times. No real option off her planet, except that she is stumbled upon by a resistance fighter. (Empire) Luke: Works on a farm with his family most of the time. Works part time in the city and is able to afford a speeder and, should he reach into his savings, a ticket off his planet whenever he needs. Organized crime is present on the planet, but isn’t nearly as omnipresent like with Anakin. Slavery is non existent in the average Tatooinian small business. (A solid improvement over Anakin) He has multiple options to get off the planet, such as saving up for a ticket and getting a job off planet, joining the Stormtrooper corps, joining or the Imperial Navy.

[@shadoww6230]

I don't want to be that person but its Rey instead of Ray

[@heinzrich]

I'm surprised he didn't mention that, those are really good valid points.

[@nch2004]

Did the New Republic even own Jakku? They straight up let Kylo Ren's star destroyer hover over it and deploy troops lol.

[@donewitheverything2292]

@@nch2004 they ran the whole galaxy except for the unknown regions, where the first order was hiding out. They had a very off hands approach to running things. Basically each planet is on their own and can police themselves however they see fit, so long as they aren’t policing too hard, where the feds step in and shut it down. If you get a poorer planet (like 90% of planets outside the core worlds) they have too little resources to do anything or really have a government at all. The galactic navy was basically non-existent. The federal government was basically non-existent outside the core worlds. And even then, barely. My support for the empire is mostly a joke, but the new republic is actually the worst. Also the republic is basically imperialist.

[@ЖамеркусДжиДжи]

Luke was actually brought there by Obi Wan, and yes, there was crime on Tatooine too, Jabba the Hutt ruled it. So they are not doing so well with their task, all that the Empire did was to replace one evil with another. Workers and engineers in the game of the last Jedi noted that during the Republic they were doing much better, keep in mind that the Empire / Republic had tens of millions of planets. The empire simply drove away the small bandits, and legalized slavery, began to cooperate with a major criminal sinicat. The empire is good only in management, but not in ensuring the lives of people and security. I'm not saying that they used the xenos as slaves. In general, democracy in the Far Galaxy is rather primitive

[@carterwest9389]

.

[@greatstoryteller9459]

Now back to work! Or your children starve tonight.

[@mr.epiclad4187]

The galactic empire can offer slaves to everyone and give u the safest rules such as a free connection for ur wifi and free links to bounty hunters to catch those cheeky rebels and crushing aliens are u ready to download the galactic empire and with my code u get 0% free that’s a bargain thanks for sponsoring galactic empire

[@justinlowder1854]

You know anle raped kid devolved that more then kid that are not

[@fyrebolt7162]

I am emperor palpatine and I approve this message

[@arthurgrayson3968]

MatPat at the end: Ok guys thanks for watching this video, now before you go let me tell you about today's sponsor Sheev's Soda.

[@marthatsme]

I don’t know man..... sounds like Dark Side propaganda

[@scottypeacock2483]

Nice

[@TheDark1903]

Matt Pat is Sith, confirmed?

[@haicoai6269]

Goh yeskzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@WildEngineerGamer]

I will not be brainwashed by matpats propaganda.

[@muslimpanda5688]

XD

[@arcticsky2991]

My take away is this Star wars is a war. No different from real life, there's no good guys or bad guys, there is only 2 sides fighting for control of something

[@deviousalemanni4235]

@@rosealynn learning history i found that most people were colonisers to someone and the people usually fighting for their freedome are often elites that want to return to their ruling privileges. More often than not that fight for freedome ends in a worse situation than the one before ( see the soviet union & co). Even the Nazis, who were the closest we have to a truly evil regime, saw themselves as a victim and their fight to be righteous and to a degree they were right. The treaty of versailes, the occupation of the rhineland and parts of eastern germany, the marginalisation of germans in said regions and the threat that the soviet union posed to europe were all very real.

[@Canadian_Zac]

​@Rosealynn even then, it can depend. Like rebel groups in France during WW2. Officially, they were fighting to free France from German occupation. But, after a bit, the allies stopped giving them weapons, because they weren't using them to fight, they were hoarding them to fight the other rebel groups for control once the Germans were kicked out.

[@Canadian_Zac]

​@Rosealynn even then, it can depend. Like rebel groups in France during WW2. Officially, they were fighting to free France from German occupation. But, after a bit, the allies stopped giving them weapons, because they weren't using them to fight, they were hoarding them to fight the other rebel groups for control once the Germans were kicked out.

[@Thrush-flight]

@@Canadian_Zacwhy did you put that twice?

[@Canadian_Zac]

@@Thrush-flight probably Internet nbeing weird when I sent it, lol

[@gabrielegenota1480]

"The Weimar Republic was a failure!" - MatPat probably, circa 1939

[@sion8]

"Ooooh!"

[@rickgreenberg1872]

That’s a little redundant. Circa means approximately

[@quackenbloke7871]

True though

[@sion8]

@@rickgreenberg1872 They are referring to MatPat, as he would probably have said had he been in Germany circa 1939.

[@gabrielegenota1480]

@@rickgreenberg1872 Oh wow- I think I used to know what that meant but the endless amount of "fake history' memes since then has made me forget lmao Thanks for the refresher

[@MapleLamia]

Truthfully the only *good* faction was the CIS (if separated from the Droid Army and the various companies semi-allied with them, as the CIS didn't really have any control over them)

[@CountDookuful]

let's just forget the chemical warfare and slavery stuff

[@baronvondarkltd5183]

he said if separated from the droid army but ok, also with corporation leaders it would bring plenty of jobs and economic prosperity

[@trantigone]

The CIS had no control over anything. The CIS was similar to the old shogun system, where while the CIS has rulers, the only real leaders who get anything accomplished are in the military.

[@doomforzombies]

Um the alliance satine kryze formed

[@unknowguy9642]

The republic: how dare you break away from the republic, the might of the republic shall crash on you!! The CIS: I was a business man, doing business

[@roustache]

I've just finish the game "Star Wars Jedi : Fallen Order", in it they says that all the resources are taken to the core world and the outer worlds are mine without restreint. they even "relocate" indigenous species if they are in the way ...

[@mrpotatoalsomooman7289]

On the bright side their relocating and not murdering them unless....... that was sarcasm

[@BrotherTheory]

btw, I love Jedi Fallen Order :) Did you know there's gonna be a sequel?

[@theepicgoosedude]

Matpat: Yo dudes the empire is pretty chill maybe you should join it or something

[@TitanEaterOfCrayons]

Jedi Requirements Don't give into the darkness: Okay that's fair A clear mind: A little tough for me but okay No family: Hold up

[@rockyseverino9230]

you get to use magic though

[@HambaAllah-ch9so]

@@rockyseverino9230 and laser sticks

[@angelb1318]

Mental illness: Wait a minute -

[@Theunfriendlyneighborhoodman]

I see this as an absolute win

[@daftwulli6145]

if you want a family simply leave the order. Not like that is forbidden or something.

[@Shadowreaper5]

Id like to point out that Luke used his "you'll get angry and use your magic" trick not to convince them to join the war, but to stop the Ewoks from killing them all. The Ewoks joined after C3PO did his dramatic reenactment of the events so far.

[@Mike_Dubo]

Was thinking the same myself. This video feels too much like Matt was wanting to make a contrarian video just to get the views.

[@RayShadow278]

@@Mike_Dubo Because it is

[@Enixon869]

@@cryfly1 my favorite is always the "Mario is a Sociopath" Game Theory where he uses a passage from the American instructions manual saying how Bowser turned the people of the Mushroom Kingdom into blocks to say Mario's a mass murderer for smashing all the blocks you do in the game, thing is the very next paragraph in the manual not only says that breaking the blocks frees them but that the powerups you get are "gifts from the grateful mushroom people"

[@karolisg4385]

@@cryfly1 dude stfu atliest he has a unlike you . Plus hes human hes made so many theiries he has to go trought so many things like movies comics , games. Hes allowed to make mistakes

[@CrackedPropane]

@@cryfly1 Well disney being evil isn’t necessarily an unpopular opinion

[@metrophidon]

Star Wars: "Matpat, Chancellor Palpatine is evil!" Matpat: "From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!"

[@Yasuda9000]

Well then you are lost.

[@lincolnjames3917]

Oh well, Hello there.

[@DanielTubeHQ-DTHQ]

All are evil

[@frankjennings4489]

In the Obi Wan series, you also see this regular salt-of-the-earth driver talk about how the people around there are good empire-loving folk, meaning he saw the empire as a good stabilizing force, not an oppressive threat.

[@MattF1337]

Outer Rim worlds: “This is outrageous it’s unfair!” Core worlds: “Take a seat!”

[@dingo7016]

Idk if ur comment is a lol or a sad thing to cry about

[@Sakaki98]

“I’m not the only one applying real-world diagnostics to works of fiction.” Been sitting on that one for a while, eh, MatPat? Tell us how you really feel.

[@craiven3527]

Like a proud fascist as everyone should

[@slemmels6362]

@@craiven3527 your joking right?

[@RhineStone46]

What does fascism have to do with it?

[@noelblack8159]

But that’s just a Theory A History Movie Theory Aaand Cut

[@Timjer92]

Well, there was a reason why the Empire was so popular in its early days; it really *did* follow up on its promises to root out the corruption and incompetence of the old Republic. And, quite frankly, I myself do genuinly believe the Empire could have had the potential to be a great force for good... IF only its sole autocrat wasn't evil incarnate and hadn't designed the Empire to be unable to function without him and his tyranny. Not to mention the New Republic was sooooo utterly incompetent the sequels happened. They were literally to complacent and indecisive to stop the blatant rise of the more evil First Order.

[@highadmiraljt5853]

Basically, thrawn would’ve been a better emperor

[@Fisinocean]

An actually non heated debate about the empirw and the republics?? Now this is something i can dig in!

[@spartanman1084]

Sequels? There’s no such thing as sequels! I SAID THERES NO SEQUELS!

[@lookatthepicture4107]

I'm proud of this comment section and everyone above this comment

[@kiirothedriver8714]

Interesting plot point if they release a sequel to Squadrons.... An Imperial pilot and senator trying to renew the militaristic tenets of the Empire...

[@majestic_defalt]

I took transformers and explained a similar take to this with the autobots and decpeticons, I really like flipping the script sometimes and showing just how evil the good side really is to show there’s more than meets the eye to a side

[@russelladkins8854]

You don't even have to flip the narrative, look at the old IDW continuity. Many Cybertronians were constructed cold into a predetermined class system guaranteeing them zero rights and no hope. In that continuity Megatron starts the Decpeticons as a philosophical opposition movements towards the predetermined functionalist perspective.

[@constantinb4592]

@@russelladkins8854 Doesn't help than a certain scientist who time travelled by accident ensured history repeated itself in such a way

[@jamesnewton485]

When I started reading the Legends books I like the Sith better than Jedi.

[@bobboringname9021]

same all though they had a far higher failure rate a true sith DOES NOT FALL TO THE DARK SIDE

[@davidjames7935]

The Sith is always is the better side

[@timleontim]

Yes

[@shuckid8290]

I hate how he ignores the slavery of the wookies in this video, the slavery under the republic or new republic was not *FOR THE REPUBLIC* it was more or less out of their control

[@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238]

This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f16Qo4WcmdSKe6s vefefv

[@followthewhiterabbit1089]

When i was a kid in the 90s , i didnt understand English, and i thought the Empire was the good guys.

[@shmonder5040]

Woah must have been a completely different movie

[@followthewhiterabbit1089]

@@shmonder5040 The rebels act like terrorists... And the empire is, just trying to keep the peace....

[@melvinvanhaperen9555]

lol i really feel what your saying man

[@theconnotationofmemedealer3795]

@Billy Oak Without Palpatine the CIS would have been based as.

[@-RuleBritannia-]

@Billy Oak....

[@mikocreer9556]

“You’re sounding like a seperatist”

[@docrofreborn7497]

@@dislikethismusicvideoleave3421 I mean, it is. But why not comment something more meaningful?

[@spider-capgaming1487]

It's Treason then

[@derpmaster2713]

If you discount their military actions, the Speratists were better than the Republic.

[@Nothing2CHere4U]

Plot twist: all yootoobers are cyclons

[@redhood7650]

@@docrofreborn7497 it's a bot spam

[@mikethegamer8492]

I think the reasoning behind the sequels failiure with the empire is bc they acted like the main characters were still rebels when they weren’t

[@tiffanypersaud3518]

Power vacuums and their effects are real. Transitions between one government to another is often neglected. I think the New Republic was spread very thin as well, and much of it was still very influenced by the Empire.

[@cr90captain89]

so the galaxy still vowed (and held) allegiance to the empire behind the scenes, planets that still supported the empire, used their collective influence in the senate to undermine the new republic from within. all the while sending funds and resources to the first order and other imperial remnants. that might explain why the NR just sucks at basic governance.

[@tiffanypersaud3518]

@@cr90captain89 I see that make sense. For people with split allegiance as well.

[@FasterthanLight11]

The Empire didnt have such a rough transition from the Republic.

[@eatonkuntz]

Freedom has a price, which is chaos. Sometimes it's better to not be free so suddenly.

[@eatonkuntz]

@@FasterthanLight11 because the transition was legitimate, Palpatine was voted into power and reformed the existing government, swiftly crushing the separatists and jedi to maintain order _before_ things devolved into chaos.

[@prakashrawat8734]

A Young Child being whisked away from his parents to a place where a values are forcefully pressed upon and emotional needs are suppressed. Me: Sounds like school to me

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

School = The empire in disguise

[@SiddharthShenoy]

Holy shi-

[@albertjackinson]

Another reason why we need to fix the education system!

[@Seasonal-Shadow_4674]

@@albertjackinson how? Won’t ever happen until another half century

[@albertjackinson]

@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 A lot of work will need to be done; that's for sure. I'll think on how implementing them can be done. There are a lot of ideas on how to improve the system, but implementing them will be a challenge.

[@superfire6463]

“It was pretty good for the farmers” Luke’s aunt and uncle:

[@portobellomushroom5764]

@Deadpoppin well, until they were burned to a crisp

[@an8strengthkobold360]

They were good for *human* farmers. They were real bad for non humans.

[@redeye4516]

*there's a theory Auto correct

[@benshorr7980]

@@portobellomushroom5764 that was by boba Fett so technically not the empire

[@sharilshahed6106]

@@benshorr7980 that was by the Empire.

[@notjeih]

Big brain Vader don't exits, he can't rule you or bring order to galaxy. Big brain Vader that can rule you and bring order to the galaxy:

[@ethribin4188]

The point always was that the Jedi order, while well intentioned, was heavily flawed and made grave errors of judgement. Especially while trying to prevent others from making those same errors.

[@Cringinator4000]

It’s just because “THE JEDI ARE EVIL” is a better clickbait title than “The Jedi are flawed”

[@quinnholloway5400]

They used to be better before they ended up melded into the Republic And had to act as their Generals

[@kalfust7722]

No not really in the old republic if you haven't read Lore about the sith genocide the jedi commited genocide on the sith species all because "they have dark side in them" sure they started a war but a real morally good person wouldn't try to genocide an entire species just because "they caused a war"

[@kalfust7722]

@@quinnholloway5400 read my previous statement

[@Vnfy]

Just like now in germany. Fanatic in don t forget what is going on in there 30th and 40th but now try to make a new war with the entire eastern world....

[@arthurgrayson3968]

MatPat: The empire was not bad. KZbin comments: Begun The Comment Wars have.

[@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238]

This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f16Qo4WcmdSKe6s eff

[@TheLastNewYorker]

So this is how Democratic conversation ends, with thunderous outrage.

[@arealisticbeautystandard8920]

I'm kinda scared to press the link i don't want to get rick rolled

[@jayvhoncalma3458]

Matpat should have started and stuck with food theory because he doesn't sound like a madman in a tinfoil hat in food theory

[@jaynguyen1573]

@@jayvhoncalma3458 so pointing out that an organization that wanted order may have been right on some things and the group that wants to overthrow the system may have caused a mess is considered tin foil hat stuff? Would it have pleased you if he said that everyone should get free stuff and not have to work?

[@curiouslamp2841]

Matpat: Let's not take the Empire's promises at face value. Also Matpat: *Takes the Empire's promises at face value*

[@SalumarLP]

Tarkin: I have never done anything wrong in my entire life. Matpat: I know this, and I love you.

[@taxevasiongaming]

@@SalumarLP accurate 😂

[@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238]

This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f16Qo4WcmdSKe6s vgrg

[@AAZ-yu5ss]

@@SalumarLP *TRUE!*

[@Towdi_]

One of your leading sources for why the empire isn't all that bad is Grand Moff Tarkin, on of the most powerful members of the empire

[@InitialPC]

and the leading sources for why the empire is bad come from rebels, whats your point?

[@bierrollerful]

"Fear will keep the local systems in line." - your friendly, freedom loving commander of the -death- 'love & friendship' star

[@morningstar3997]

Well it did so he isn't wrong there.

[@chris999999999999]

So you're saying they should have called it the Health Star?

[@FatheredPuma81]

​@Robert Allan It blowing up wasn't apart of the plan though.

[@Animalace3]

Don't quote me on this, but IIRC that line that Tarkin stated that you quoted was after Tarkin had lost his son and become far more cruel in keeping order than he was before the death of his son.

[@Animalace3]

@Robert Allan Hmm, I guess I'll have to explain more. Before the death of his son, he was actually well liked and didn't really beat down civilians through fear. I said what I did to state that Tarkin went off the deep end after his son died. Does it justify anything? Of fucking course not. It's rather hard to justify suppressing the people through sheer power without very good reasons (which is nigh impossible). Just stating the cause for why he did what he did.

[@Quasimodo-mq8tw]

The Empire improves every land it touches: Every British colonial officer ever....

[@nitrokat7597]

True

[@amelist8123]

well it kind of did in a way. It brought modern medicine, education and infrastructure and philosophy. A lot of the stories of Aztecs being murderous war culture that eat people, which for many years people did not believe. Now archeologist and historians have proven a lot of the tall tails to be true. Like a giant wall build only out of human skulls that the Spaniards tore down. They found reminds of it under the grounds because it wasn't just extremely tall but went deep into the earth. The Spaniards could not have defeated the Aztec with out the help of the people they oppressed and ruled over as second class citizens and lambs for sacrifice. But of course this makes people who have the mind of a child angry because they think the world actually works like a star wars movie or a harry potter film, so this means one is saying that empire rule is correct. When nothing in life is so simple as a child's story.

[@WickedKnightAlbel]

@@amelist8123 Right, right, and that _totally_ justifies the Conquistadors slaughtering every last one of them for gold Get over yourself

[@Ragehaven]

Heroes one and all

[@lordchickenhawk]

@@WickedKnightAlbel Ummm... No. I don't think Ame was justifying it. I got the impression that he/she was asking "Which evil do you find least egregious?" slash "Are you a victim of your own child-like idealism?" P.S. Sorry for all the edits... I just realised that I have no idea whether Ame is a bloke/sheila/personal pronoun.

[@LilMissMorpho]

MatPat next week: The Illuminati is a necessary evil.

[@LilMissMorpho]

@Don Shrek You know it.

[@pestylucas7406]

I mean, what did the Illuminati ever do to you

[@CartaplexUS]

Hey guys pack that is a A dictator sympathizer

[@LilMissMorpho]

@@pestylucas7406 how about putting their symbols in movies and games of all kinds? you could legit pull together a mega theory of the movies that are connected by that symbolism. For a secret society, their symbolism has gotten so popular movies now add it in on purpose as a cheap trick to rake in viewers.

[@RobocopStealerOfFridges]

@Ba Doai no.

[@UnknownOps]

Reminds me of Somalia, after fighting off the government, all the factions began opposing and killing each others for control, the rebellion is no different from this.

[@potatoqueen5248]

This whole theory is basically “Ah yes, young man, winning was easy, governing is much harder.”

[@settheshallow8913]

"Which is why I need to keep slaves, hamilton, I need to keep them."

[@btarik.maulana4199]

found a fellow hamiltonian

[@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238]

This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f16Qo4WcmdSKe6s yjyjyn

[@btarik.maulana4199]

What is with all these linked comments?

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

@Btari k. maulana Bots.

[@jack_5670]

6:07 The book Tarkin is not Legends, it is official Canon

[@jack_5670]

@@dislikethismusicvideoleave3421 lol ok bot

[@jack_5670]

wait lemme guess. That's you in the video and you're just doing this for free publicity! Very clever...

[@docrofreborn7497]

@@jack_5670 ding ding ding ding ding! You’ve got it right, mate.

[@theopminer952]

I think he should start leaving the StarWars theories to the Lore channels, he is leaving out so much info, and messing some of it up.

[@BrotherTheory]

I know that from Star Wars Comics, he told me that (NO PROMOTING)

[@thenexgamer5608]

Matpat: the mainstream movies never talk about how the empire rules Tarkin in episode 4: the senate (democracy) has been disbanded, fear will keep them in line, and to make them even more scared to disobey us let’s destroy a planet

[@haicoai6269]

Goh yeskzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@reubenm.d.5218]

Sourcing Tarkin Doctrine from outside canon is also faulty logic - canon Tarkin is committed to the Death Star (a centralised project) rather than the dispersed use of resources that Krennic advocates for with his TIE defenders

[@sebastianjoseph9628]

I saw this video called “Th Empire Was Right” and the guy showed the clip telling us that the senate was disbanded and power would be given to the local governor’s and that Alderaan was a suspected rebel planet and only had a population of about 2 million, which Obi Wan Kenobi confirmed.

[@JoeBjork]

@@reubenm.d.5218 close, but not quite... Krennic also wanted ONLY the Death Star, no other projects. Tarkin wanted to steal the Death Star project credit/command from him (which he proceeds to do in Rouge One) and so, on the surface at least, supports other projects. Thrawn was the one who thought that the Death Star was a stupid idea and was pushing for the TIE Defenders

[@reubenm.d.5218]

@@JoeBjork Thanks for the clarification. You are, of course, correct

[@SovTheCherub]

Also there’s the possibility of the old Republic having the idea for the death star and wanting to create it. In the prequels we see chancellor palpatine hastily close blueprints of something that resembles the death star as anakin walks in.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

I take it you missed the part then, where the Geonosians gave Dooku the plans for the Death Star in the movie before that? Yeah, Palpatine definitely ordered those plans to be made for him. They weren't some secret Republic superweapon.

[@SovTheCherub]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel ohhhh Forgot about that, I haven’t watched the movies in a few years

[@neighborhoodlegends2701]

I think another thing to consider is the show “StarWars Rebels” it goes into deeper detail of the oppression and corruption of the Imperial government, but that comes down to morals so then we have to ask what are moral and what do we base morals on? What about the Jedi’s morals of no emotion but protect and keep peace? Finally is it even possible to govern an entire glalaxy before something becomes too corrupt?

[@loltwest9423]

Star Wars Rebels is an instant checkmate for the Galactic Empire. That show depicts the Empire as cartoonishly evil.

[@SailorDoggo]

It's based on the original trilogy and prequels

[@loltwest9423]

@@SailorDoggo That doesn't help his case and he used sources outside of those two anyway. Mattpat is doing something we in the scientific field like to call "cherry-picking."

[@haicoai6269]

Gyes ohkzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@davidthomas2870]

Even without the corruption problem, just the bureaucratic and logistical issues with a nation of that scale probably make which one was better a moot point; NO nation that large can function well. Realistically, even a nation of an entire single planet cant function very well, much less an entire star system.

[@yoshifan33]

"Only a Sith theorizes in absolutes. I will do what I must." _draws lightsaber_

[@silverblade357]

Gotta wonder how it feels to be part of a thousands strong group that keeps getting curbstomped across the millennia by only two dudes.

[@elegantmonkey6111]

"You will try"

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes" -A Jedi dealing in absolutes

[@craftysmithkeith3653]

@@dontmisunderstand6041 only now have i realized that that statement was an absolute

[@krel7160]

@@craftysmithkeith3653 Have you heard of the tragedy of Darth Kenobi the feeble? He could save himself from death, but not those around him.. not even his most favored apprentice.

[@dafnesaenz1617]

Also Anakin always wanted to overthrow Palpatine because he had a vision of how it had to be done, he thought his new empire would bring peace and justice to everyone. He literally tells that to Padme in episode 2 and 3 but she says no you can't just force people to obey people need to decide, a democracy. In the end he did bring balance to the force thoooo

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

A balance that only had to be reestablished because of him. (Well not JUST him, but he played a big role in screwing things over)

[@tabkg5802]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel and all of this happened because Jedi Order was made up of a bunch of hypocrites

[@ThefOf1000Faces]

@@tabkg5802 just the new jedi the old jedi even had a diffret jedi code

[@theangryotaku3361]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel technically he did bring balance. there were just 2 sith and 2 jedi left after his "adventure". perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

@@theangryotaku3361 That presumes that the only thing that matters in the galaxy is how many Sith or Jedi there are in it. I would say that a galaxy which is constantly plagued with civil wars and exploding planets is not balanced in the force.

[@GrahamWarzywo]

Youre actually wrong at one thing - "Tarkin" novel is canon, Tarkins invisible ship appears later in comics where it serves First Order (and is destroyed sadly)

[@justincadarette6414]

Got to show this to my 7th grade students when looking at the benefits and structures of empires. It was a hit! Thanks MatPat for bringing some fun into the classroom!!

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

You... did tell them though, that in the end, racist, slavering, mass death causing Empires are a bad thing, right?

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

@Hunter Stillman Not in the original trilogy, but certainly in the movies. Not that it matters. They blew up 2 billion civilians, just to weed out some rebels, I don't think they could possibly be more cartoonishly evil than that.

[@falahati]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel I suppose that depends. If it was a move to put an end to the resistance, it was actually an evil act to prevent further conflicts on other planets hosting billion and billion of people. still by no means a good or justified action, but I can see it as understandable and possibly a lesser of two evils.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

@@falahati How could this possibly be worth it? What could the resistance possibly do, that would be worse than two billion civilian deaths and the loss of an entire planet? It didn't even work, the resistance still defeated the Empire in the end.

[@thekaiseroftheeast3895]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Well, the Empire wasn't racist, at least not towards people. From what we've seen, the Empire doesn't discriminate on the basis of race or gender. The Empire is speciest against aliens, but let's face it, humans are pretty much naturally speceist. We slaughter millions of cows, sheep, pigs, etc. every year, every nation does it. And slavery only really applies towards humans not aliens, otherwise using cows for farm labor would be "slavery."

[@lukecrittell]

Matpat: The ewoks and the empire coexisted in peace! *battlefront 2 ewok hunt flashbacks*

[@alexvazquez2871]

Underrated comment. Only true BF2 fans will understand.

[@MQzzz.3140]

The old PSP ones?

[@leviticusart123]

Holly crap that's exactly what I thought of.

[@randomguythatexists2244]

I guess Matpat is referring to their relationship before the battle of Endor. I think Ewok hunt is after the battle.

[@midgetydeath]

That was just because the Ewoks attacked thanks to Luke.

[@thetntking]

The Alderaan disaster was highly controversial in the empire and most people in high ranks highly disliked what Tarkin did

[@Korbsio]

they still did it

[@ZainNL]

@@Korbsio that's what usually the case when people say they didn't like it _after_ the fact :P

[@FormulaTurismo]

Your comment further proves what matpat is saying. As a govering body the empire cared about the people of the galaxy.

[@Korbsio]

@@FormulaTurismo You do know they committed multiple geniocides, were racist to every species that wasn’t human and established slavery, right?

[@Korbsio]

@@waterloo32594 are u joking or...?

[@lordlaughypants5889]

And as Clerks points out, everyone on the second Death Star knew the risks and had to know that they were building a planet destroying non-moon. Also, let's not forget that the reason Alderaan was destroyed was because the planet Leia said their base was on was not important enough to make a statement. It wasn't even because they believed it was a Rebel base.

[@HolyknightVader999]

Alderaan supported the Rebels. For all Tarkin knew, it was another Geonosis, and we all know how hard it was for the Republic to take those Geonosian bastards down.

[@AlechiaTheWitch]

Dantoine. Was actually investigated by imperials and did have a base on it. Buujt it was abandoned.

[@LanMandragon1720]

The risks aren't even relevant a naval base has always and will always be a legitimate target. The size of said base is entirely irrelevant to the question the whole idea it was a war crime is absurd.

[@midgetydeath]

Why did they have to know? It’s a secret. The crew and workers have no reason at all to be told what it is. And the Empire chose a highly visible Rebel base over a low visibility Rebel base. It was still due to their support of the rebellion.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

@@midgetydeath Alderaan was not in open rebellion, though. If it had been, Leia wouldn't have been able to pretend that she was on a diplomatic mission. And even with Alderaan's current government potentially planning to join the rebellion, heck, even if Alderaan HAD rebelled, this still wouldn't have justified this. This is like, if the Senator of Texas supported rebels planning to take over the US and as a response, they nuked every single square mile of the state and then sank the entire landmass into the ocean, killing every single living being there and ensuring that nothing could ever live there, again. It's not a warranted response by any metric. Also: the workers definitely knew what they were working on. There had already been a Deathstar and it had blown up a planet.

[@CountDookuful]

Matt Patt: "The outer systems got to keep their resources" Palpatine: *Builds multiple death stars with slave labor and pillaged resources*

[@Cheesusful]

Didn't someone once do a video about the resources that went into building a death Star? I'm sure they mentioned that basic taxation for infrastructure couldn't have built it without some planets getting severely fucked over. ..

[@sebastianjoseph9628]

They said that it was private contractors. Because I’m sure building something like that would pay you well and with an entire galaxy’s worth of people and wealth. It doesn’t seem that hard

[@darth_sidious_sheev_palpatine]

"Death star" is a derogatory slang from the Rebel propaganda. It's officially called a piece globe, And it shoots pure safety and security For the Galaxy

[@victory1stardestroyer431]

Matpat: also quotes EGTW, which quite literally goes over how the Empire fucks over the rim Matpat: Also quotes lost stars which does the same Matpat: quotes Tarkin which does the same as well

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

@@sebastianjoseph9628 deathstar wasnt built with contractors lmao. Wookie slaves were definitely used and certainly others. The empire using slaves is a major part

[@larrypowers2515]

"You see, boys. Everybody thinks they want freedom, but what they really want is order. When they realize that, they're gonna welcome us back with open arms. To the Empire!" - Valin Hess, the Mandalorian

[@katiehelms8903]

In other words, the galaxy needed an Empire that WASN'T ruled by Sith.

[@natoneill3278]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe this was thrawns goal in legends, a government without the influence of the sith, but with a strong chain of command

[@coilledragon279]

Which, ironically, is pretty much what the Empire became in Legends a few years after Thrawn.

[@ghuttsmckenzie4269]

Or Jedi for that matter.

[@jarrodritter489]

@@natoneill3278 yeah in the books even admitted that he was trying to rise to high enough rank that when Palpatine died he would be able to influence who the next leader would be. (He didn't understand that since Palpatine was a Sith Lord he wouldn't die of old age)

[@ZGuy0fSci]

idk, The Sith were kinda right about a lot of stuff in the end, lol.... But yeah, maybe not having those in general corrupted by the use of The Force in charge maybe isn't sucha bad idea but to have it restricted to One or Two people who understand power? yee

[@jasonrobertson1284]

I think pre disney cannon displayed this a lot more. They clearly discuss the destruction of the deathstar in low orbit killed the ewoks gave them all cancer except 2 stuffed and outside the senate. The nogiri have almost identical situation and Vader legit saves as much if the species as humanly possible

[@Jack-is-here]

“The empire improves every system it touches” All the Wookies who were forced into salt mines on Kessel: Am I a joke to you?

[@Zula_The_Squid]

The Empire was pro human and discriminated aliens. Humanity still hasn't even ended racism, in even our highly sophisticated, peaceful and undisputably awesome society so I think you may be putting the bar a little high here. _Wookies are as slave-able big foot kind of animal beings you can get after all. At least, there was no racism within the human species in Star Wars. Something not all sentient beings managed to do in the expanded universe._

[@w0t3rdog]

Well, reports of savages attacking peaceful prospectors dropped on kashykk(cant be bothered to check the spelling) after the nasty hairy things were deported. Perfect for Czerka corp to go in and utilize the planet's neglected resources and turn the planet into a productive member of the galactic community. Seems like improvement to me.

[@Bmarshall3892]

Only if your human

[@liamwarner5749]

@Hayden Baker I assure you the wookies and Twileks are getting along just fine.

[@DangNguyen-ph4sg]

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[@mrbaldy1665]

One major thing Matt Pat didnt touch on was Luke's call to adventure was the empire vaporizing his aunt and uncle

[@Charlie94781]

Ben Kenobi would have definitely been extreme enough to murder Owen and Beru in order to deceive Luke into becoming his agent by destroying his family and the Jawas. the Lars Homestead looks as though it was demolished by anarchists most likely Jabba’s thugs who got mind tricked into believing the farmers never paid their water tribute

[@aidanithink4596]

@@Charlie94781 That is just baseless speculation though

[@EGRJ]

@@aidanithink4596 So you're saying it's just a theory?

[@dynawesome]

They had evidence that the droids could be there The Empire is extremely cruel and oppressive, but most often only to those suspected of rebellion

[@aidanithink4596]

@@EGRJ A game theory

[@certifiedjuicer6894]

That moment when you’re more interested in Star Wars politics than real world politics

[@teubert2]

Reminds me of how I'm more familiar with World of Warcraft maps than I am with real world maps lol.

[@dislikethismusicvideoleave2238]

This is the worse video ever 🏳️‍🌈🙏🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f16Qo4WcmdSKe6s efvvf

[@blazeofglory4053]

To be fair, a lot of real world "politics" can be boiled down to name calling and finding out who can yell louder. So I can see why.

[@catholiccontriversy]

12:27 but MatPat, you're missing the critical second half of that Clerks scene, and that is when the roofer joins the conversation talking about the time he was offered a job by Babyface Bambino the gangster, and how he just didn't feel right doing the job, and so he referred it to a friend and the next day the Scappeli family put a hit on Bambino, killing the friend in the crossfire, and how all those contractors knew what they were risking.

[@FxTR22]

You forgot to mention that the system only worked as long Palpatine was in power. When he died, the whole empire crumbled. This system only worked as long the guy in charge did more or less the right thing towards prosperity and did not surprisingly die somewhere on a fake moon.

[@NarwahlGaming]

**Palpatine's body flops down from a tube** Janitor: _"What are those guys doing up there?"_

[@swiftlyaswiftie]

I think the power would be passed down to darth vader and then he'll pick someone out (possibly even train them into that mindset)

[@HolyknightVader999]

Same thing went for the New Republic. The moment Mon Mothma stepped down, it was on its way to its death. In both Legends and Disney canon, the New Republic was a failed experiment.

[@bryanperdomo1283]

Yeah but Vader could have ruled the galaxy just fine if he wasn't abruptly interrupted by his son.

[@lasercraft32]

True... but Palpatine clearly had plans to be immortal in some way (as seen by the questionable sequel trilogy at least).

[@shadydoi859]

Sounds to me like matpat is turning to the dark side

[@oksomynameisjeff4212]

maybe he could join it or something

[@notpog3278]

Maybe it was never the dark side

[@notyourfriendlyneighbor2733]

TIME TO REMOVE MATPAT FROM LIFE EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO EVDINCE BESIDES SIMPATHY OF THE DARKSIDE

[@p4rsiso503]

Im gonna join them too

[@czechoslovakia1090]

Yes.

[@shaketpepper4899]

The latest episode also proved the British colonized the entire universe. Not only does nearly every character speak English, one of the Mandalorians said to "put on some tea"

[@baronvonbork2856]

Fun Fact: UK isn't the country that consumes to most tea it is Turkey

[@sk1ttl3svevo52]

I guess the sun really does never set on the British Empire

[@command_unit7792]

Its galactic basic and other languages are commonly spoken in the Mandalorian.

[@darthcactusthewise4238]

Actually whenever you hear somebody speaking English in Star Wars they are actually speaking a language called Galactic Basic. Galactic Basic is the Lingua Franca of the Galaxy, that's why so many people speak it. You never see any English writing in Star Wars either, just a pattern of symbols called aurebesh that serves as the written language for Galactic Basic.

[@Kartoffel3]

@@darthcactusthewise4238 my question is, why are they called x-wings?

[@HolyknightVader999]

Under the Old Republic, Naboo, which was a system so important that it had a Senate seat, only had a small starfighter corps and some royal militia as their defense force, and they had to pay for that out of pocket. Under the Empire, Tatooine, a planet so insignificant that Luke describes it as the planet that's the farthest from the center of civilization, had two Imperial-Class Star Destroyers and a large Stormtrooper garrison protecting it. Under the Republic, a crime lord like Jabba the Hutt practically ruled like a sovereign over Tatooine, but under the Empire, he can't walk around outside without a group of bounty hunters protecting him, lest the local Imperials decide to pick him up for "questioning". It goes to show the difference of how secure you can be under the Empire, as opposed to the Old Republic.

[@darkjediknight2923]

THIS. 100%. The Empire - the legitimate government of the wider galaxy - unlike its predecessor does not abandon its People. It establishes the rule of law without exception no matter where you live. The people of the Outer Rim now have free trade, the rule of law enforced by the Imperial Military, the Imperial Academies, an Imperial policing presence that means the criminal and the corrupt can no longer prey on the People. The gangsters can no longer operate with impunity. Slavery is no longer practised brazenly on Tatooine. The Imperials also establish a Sound galactic currency (the Imperial Credit) that is universally accepted currency galaxy wide. No doubt backed by a set number of Twilek females for good measure.

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@darkjediknight2923 Exactly. The leaders of the Rebels are the same senatorial aristocrats who had little problem with corporate armies and Outer Rim slavery, and they were mad because the Emperor took away their toys.

[@darkjediknight2923]

@@HolyknightVader999 Very true. With the exception of the Organas (Bail, Leia etc) who had some principles and epitomised the honour and grace of the Jedi Order, those other "Rebel" Senators are not even aristocrats of noble character, but rather a bunch of anarchists, or self serving vested interest groups who care little for the galactic populace. They were perfectly content for years to allow slavery to be practised in the open ("The Republic doesn't exist out here. We must fend for ourselves"), for the gangsters to rein free and act brazenly in the open, for levels of corruption beyond imagination, to live lavish lifestyles and hold endless debates going nowhere whilst the galaxy suffered, and indeed for an innocent Naboo system to be subject to an occupation by a Corporation! A corporation that they had no problem with holding a seat in the august Senate itself despite not being an elected representative of a galactic world! The Emperor was not a perfect being by any means - he might have brought his personal issues with the Jedi into the policy agenda too much, he might have had a soft spot for certain Moffs and big statement policies versus the Vader style meritocracy, but one thing you have to give him is he stood up to corruption, he served the People as their legitimate leader and he made it a top priority to bring Galactic Law to the entire galaxy without exception.

[@leggomyeggo5773]

Everybody: talking about why the empire are the bad guys Me: oh no, I'm not brave enough for politics

[@bagaskara2702]

Wanna buy some death sticks?

[@leggomyeggo5773]

@@bagaskara2702 You do not want to sell me deathsticks

[@skylanderlego4163]

@@leggomyeggo5773 you will go home and rethink your life choices

[@tbnrrenagade9507]

@@skylanderlego4163 you will help me bring qui-gon jinn back from the dead 'cause he's smarter and wiser than yoda so that we can see if MatPat was right and you will give up the ways of the light side of the force to join me to destroy the Jedi and the sith.

[@RoXas4878]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZamfIqCrs2IeMk mandalorian canceled season 3

[@jkitsme401]

I said it once and I'll say it again, everyone and everything is bad, you just have to see who's worse and pick or stay away from all of it. I apply this in everything.

[@amazon4565]

I agree

[@fortherepublic9878]

This is one of the most truthful comments I’ve ever read.

[@cathalhogan8183]

You would make an actual good politician

[@vanguardbreaker8826]

This is one of the things that makes me want to go live in a hermit hut in Tibet.

[@fortherepublic9878]

@@vanguardbreaker8826 And be under the rule of the CCP?

[@jsim26787]

I haven't seen the whole video yet but I have something to say about the bpd thing. I'm personally diagnosed with it and for the longest time I've been saying he shows signs and people always said I was reading into things!! Anyways, his time in the jedi definitely did not help but I don't think that's where it started. It started before he ever met them. From the start, he didn't have a dad, and even though he physically didn't have one, to a kid that still feels like abandonment. He grew up a slave, and yes he seemed good with his life when we meet him but it's only because it's all he knows. I was the same way when I was a kid, I had no idea that what I was going through was abuse and I thought it was normal. It still has a lasting impact, even if it seems like we're coping with it, especially when we were children. We don't know any better, so we don't understand what we're going through at that age. As we get older, meet other people, see other families, this is where we start to realize that maybe what we went through wasn't normal after all. For anakin, this happened when he joined the jedi. They weren't perfect either, and yes being taken from his mother definitely added to his abandonment issues, but they were already pre-existing, you can't say that it's the jedi's fault, because it isn't, in fact, it's never anyones fault. It's a mix of a lot of factors.

[@tyrant-den884]

Especially since most of the kids raised by the Order don't show any signs of BPD.

[@thatmurkyguy9497]

Noice that's a great point not kidding

[@jsim26787]

@@tyrant-den884 that too!! Although we do see that happen with siblings where they were raised in the same environment but one will have bpd and the others do not, however other severe mental issues are often present in the other siblings. It could possibly be argued they are signs, now that I’m thinking about it, of narcissistic personality disorder or anti-social personality disorder just because of a lack of empathy in the Jedi, a feeling that they’re better than everyone, seeing emotions as bad and that they are above having them, but I’d have to rewatch it to really decipher that one, as I said, it was just now that I’m thinking about it more that I’m seeing these things

[@saturated3821]

@@tyrant-den884 Because they were taken in younger when it was easier to indoctrinate them into the Jedi philosophy with no questioning... causes less cognitive dissonance and mental pain.

[@tyrant-den884]

@@saturated3821 sure, but keep in mind the main things Jedi "indoctrination", as you call it, do are: keep you from hurting yourself or other with emotional outbursts. Also, unlike a cult: you are free to leave once you are no longer a danger to yourself. The only reason Anakin stated in the Order after being knighted was for his own selfish ambitions.

[@Gen-ZChristian]

Hey Matt, looking back on this video, I’d like to point out the various TV shows that take place during the time of the Empire. Shows like The Bad Batch, Kenobi, and Rebels show the true cruelty that the empire enforces on regular civilians.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

Even though some of those came out before this video, those would be inconvenient for the contrarian opinion he wants to push, so he ignored them in true Matt style :P

[@derpyduck5088]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Oops, your bias is showing. They're all non-canon so including them would be like writing a biography about Blackbeard and including the events of Assassin's Creed 4.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

@@derpyduck5088 Every single show he mentioned was and still is canon.

[@monopoman]

Matpat: "At least the Empire was more competent, that means they are the best option."

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

Bahahahahaha hahaha Boy the Death Star was such a joke ain’t it?

[@sasimitra5871]

Competent at their agenda. Issue is their agenda

[@miguelzurita3216]

The New Republic was bad (in the movies) because of bad writing.

[@haicoai6269]

Gyes ohkzbin.info/www/bejne/sHetY3SElKiNfpo

[@evank3718]

Honestly there doesn’t seem to be any bad side to joining the Dark side

[@lukhanyogantsho1016]

Except being hunted by jedi and other sith.

[@nerbakken]

Except the dark side of the force literally eating up your body...

[@Punched_Kuze]

And the fact that the “heroes” always win

[@edrichlouw1790]

At least not anything some botox and serious R&R can’t fix.

[@jonathanyesbest4616]

THATS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK.

[@InquisitorKryptman]

Matpat: The Empire didn't practice Cultural Imperialism Moff Gideon and the great Purge: Imma bout to end this whole man's courier.

[@BrotherTheory]

@Rohan Dahiya Pluta I completly agree with you, Rohan :)

[@doomforzombies]

@Rohan Dahiya Pluta and it could be called I don’t know Star Wars explained

[@doomforzombies]

@Rohan Dahiya Pluta I know it was a joke about how simple the name is

[@Opr8rKaz]

the way i see it, the Empire reduced world hunger, no jobs, crime rates, all that when they got rid of aldeeran

[@rillegas08backup]

On the other hand, the entire series is Mando traveling the galaxy and finding that societies all over the galaxy are doing just as well as they were before/during the empire. The guy only saw death and chaos because he never traveled to places the empire didn't have a presence

[@JosephGaming]

the new republic keeps no public order, the fact that moff gideon's empire is that strong when the rebellion shold be doing something shows how poor of a leadership they are and as matpat said, the first order managed to get so strong that it blew up 4 planets and ended the new republic

[@katiehelms8903]

@@JosephGaming the new Republic was still young and building itself up

[@grimrapper5202]

@@katiehelms8903 ??? Comparing the five years of the empire?

[@yuhyuh5674]

@@grimrapper5202 thing is the empire had already established sovereignty over entire systems due to the clones, which were very slowly phased out with natural troops

[@grimrapper5202]

@@yuhyuh5674 ??? The new republics now are pale in comparison nonetheless?

[@baha17222]

I remember back in the day when he calculated the cost of destroying the death star

[@georgehackett5187]

Matpat: Now I don't want to take the word of this guy, he's clearly biased Also Matpat: completely believes the word of the literal Grand Moff of the Empire, one of the most powerful people in the galaxy

[@retosius7962]

why lie about how the world was before the empire was? if anything at least that part would be good evidence that the place was complete chaos.

[@levrawonline]

@@retosius7962 Plus it was shown in the Clone Wars that he like Anakin used to be a Republic man, until the system also seemed to force his hand in war to make moves he disagreed on and that in his opinion risked more lives. Anakin and him saw eye to eye in this regard during the war. Something about the way the senate directed them just didnt sit right with him. He is a witness of both systems.

[@daefaron]

@@levrawonline IIRC The Tarkin Doctrine/his extreme views came about after Palpatine manipulated events to have a rebelling system event cause the death of his son, which drove Tarkin into a more extreme stance on order and crushing rebellions through making them scared.

[@Sillymonroll]

Lo l ^_^

[@Mrblob100]

@@retosius7962 > why lie about how the world was before the empire was? Cann you not comprehend why he would lie?

[@UnswimmingFishYT]

Since you're using the Disney stuff here, you can take one good look at how things go in Rebels and find the empire subjugating, exploiting, enslaving, and murdering innocent civilians several times, and you don't even have to look too closely to see it. There are also a lot of instances of Vader doing totally evil stuff for decades, mostly in comic material, and based on his stated political view of "they should be made to" as Anakin, I seriously doubt how effective he could have been as a ruler. There are also several different stories of the empire suppressing free speech, manipulating trade in shady ways, exploiting the outer rim exactly like the republic it came from, and using a lot of slave labor, especially aliens. It did crack down on pirates more and put down bad rulers on some worlds, but it also destroyed a lot of small governments that were already effective on their own worlds, and for most who didn't live wealthy in the core, it was a very harsh and oppressive regime. The amount of stories of imperial rule subjugating and greedily controlling local people far outweighs all the good stuff it did.