Underwater - How to Fail at Alien | Anatomy Of A Failure

[@JAGGEDJUNKIE103]

This movie made me think that a Space Marines movie could be possible, those suits they use looked amazing.

[@LordofSadFac]

Just do Starship Toppers but bigger, and i mean SH 1 with stuff like the Marauders from the third movie, but only that... And of course, bigger and uglier bugs

[@stephenrice3299]

Wait like Alien Space Marines or Warhammer 40k Space Marines I was thinking the latter.

[@matteussilvestre8583]

*SPESS MEHREENS!*

[@JAGGEDJUNKIE103]

@@joku212 Yeah its, pretty cool.

[@JAGGEDJUNKIE103]

@@stephenrice3299 Yeah i meant 40k Space Marines.

[@Negameleon]

Changed my mind, Ridley Scott's Alien prequels are great, specially Covenant.

[@jakegraham3758]

Negameleon fact it’s just a special movie. John carpenter knew he couldn’t replicate it so he made the sequel a action movie. This movie isn’t even a terrible movie the worst thing about it really is “oh it’s not one of the greatest films of all time”

[@slackerdenile8836]

@@jakegraham3758 *James Cameron

[@jakegraham3758]

Slacker Denile 😂😂😂😂OMG I cant believe I did that not editing the comment tho I got love fore all my JCs

[@freshrot420]

Haaah, too true! O'Bannon and Geiger were the real magic.

[@austina.872]

@@jakegraham3758 at least you admitted soldier.

[@RREvilMonk]

“Five year olds aren’t scary...” Filmento has obviously never had a 5 year old.

[@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman]

They literally are goblin and goblin are scary when you make them realistic

[@jollyd.joestar3937]

the scary part is that you can't hurt them or else you will go to jail

[@catmandeal7779]

I have like 4 or 5 in the basement and they are not that scary tbh

[@stygian8049]

@@catmandeal7779 they aren't scary if they aren't alive

[@cornpop1363]

you're afraid of 5 year olds? lol

[@stuglife5514]

I actually like the lack of drama. When you go into a life or death situation where you HAVE to rely on others, even the selfish get real friendly. It’s only once the hope of survival diminishes that people start getting crazy, and that usually takes a while believe it or not. It took a week of floating for sailors of the sunken USS Indianapolis to start throwing fists and pulling knifes on eachother and fighting over space on rafts. It took a whole month of freezing Siberian winter with no real food before people started eating eachother in that one gulag where they were sent to an island and told to build barracks with no tools.

[@Rlyeh_The_Dead]

Hollywood has become so predictable and made me set the bar so low that when the male leader didn't end up betraying Stewart, it made me like the movie.

[@Zeddyboi86]

Yeah. Now that I think about it, I had the same thought.

[@gbdeck200]

Truth The guy holding the creature in his suit made me think it was following them for it (possible still) but nope just done away with

[@7Criska]

Or maybe the audience doesnt like original movies nowadays? All they watch is reboots, follow ups to old classics or superhero movies.

[@aethertoast4320]

@@7Criska well the issue is that nothing released isn't what you just described. Everything outside of that is made terribly, goes way too far into high concept that it basically is just a "high" concept, or is so up its own ass with politics that it becomes preaching rather than entertainment. Which option is better?

[@JewishFrog]

In case anyone was interested in a critique of this video, here is one by the EFAP podcast, enjoy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKuypX5topmUepI

[@SteveSmith-wk9dx]

Unfortunately, even the Alien franchise has sucked at recreating Alien.

[@Darkpara1]

A good point, even the original creator of Alien with much more money can't recreate Alien.....

[@phisograph]

Yeah, Alien and Aliens are the only 2 movies I truly enjoy/love in the franchise. Even then, Aliens is a much different movie than Alien. So, the original still remains void of a good recreated film.

[@windowsVD]

@@phisograph I think that's kinda the problem. Recreating Alien isn't a good idea because the original still holds up so well. James Cameron specifically chose NOT to recreate Alien with his sequel because it was a fruitless endeavor to try to recreate what was already so iconic, which is why he made a different film that would stand on its own.

[@phisograph]

@@windowsVD Yeah. I agree. Honestly, any recreation of Alien would always fall short, whether in acting, directing, or the sort.

[@fransandersson4717]

That why the only good movies try to do something diffrent

[@tmee213]

*my dad and me watching this movie* *monsters pull the guy in the water* Me:How did the monsters get in, they closed the door? My dad: They swam in through the plot hole

[@arcangle7444]

Lmao...

[@sircreme81]

Legend

[@bwuwohk.o2016]

Amazing 👏🏻✨

[@pukadon81]

I wish my dad was like this

[@gabiausten8774]

Your Dad can call this Number 03***911, it’s time he picks up his Nobel Prize…

[@letsplaysvonaja1714]

"where some minors accidentally release a monster" That part had me confused until I realized he said miners

[@explodingtomahawks7589]

That reminds me of Galaxy Quest! The argument between Alan Rickman's character and Tony Shaloub's on that planet is so funny.

[@TheXabl0]

@@explodingtomahawks7589 omg such an awesome line in Galaxy quest from Tony's character.

[@enysuntra1347]

Yes, that's a problem: Neither minors nor miners had anything to do with Cthulhu awakening. There are hints that they were put there as a feeding cricket by their company, which may have known more; but all in all, they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Just like victims of IRL catastrophes.

[@iceman24life]

Fun fact: "Alien" was marketed as "Jaws" in space. They also had similar beats and you didn't really see the alien/shark much, and that's what made both so great. The atmosphere.

[@katey1dog]

Yet Alien felt more realistic.

[@shanechannel7066]

@@katey1dog my dad yells at me

[@katey1dog]

@@shanechannel7066 Dementia?

[@shanechannel7066]

@@katey1dog he thinks I'm a ghost

[@halcionkoenig243]

Alien, like Jaws, couldn't afford the budget to show the monster in early production. Money is the reason movies fail, because we have the money, so why not make MORE monsters?

[@Zett76]

"a 1000 five year old kids could definitely kill you" Now, THAT's a horror movie I'd love to see...

[@Khalid-ct4et]

Man, you'll love Cooties

[@Zett76]

Khalid Tareq 😁 I watched it, thanks for the tip. It comes close... but I meant "just“ kids. No zombie virus, just a bee hive full of murderous children... THAT would be a great movie. 🙂

[@jimmy_the_squid9456]

@@Zett76 There's an older film called Who Could Kill A Child which is about an island of murderous children

[@samcarter6364]

Not exactly that but check out the show Channel Zero: Candle Cove

[@amberkelly3187]

Watch the movie The Children

[@grannydearest840]

This movie was almost.. Too dark. Like there's a dark film and then there's me squinting in a theatre like an idiot

[@FormalGibble]

Thank you! I'm watching the video just thinking "it can't really look like this can it?" I could barely see anything at all.

[@0vermars520]

AVP Requiem much lol

[@julcaos]

@@0vermars520 you answered before I did... good job

[@elpretender1357]

If your CGI is not good, you darken the shot, so the more dark the scene is, probably the less convincing is the CGI, though, I gotta admit that the Marianas trench is probably dark af

[@ohc1492]

I was considering buying the blu-ray to check if raising the viewing quality I could understand details I didn't got or understood due to the darkness at the theater.. but I now believe it's going to be futile. The movie is just too dark.

[@2st486]

imagine using cthulhu in your finale to have critics call him "the larger monster"

[@grimbereft]

I know right! And the deep ones

[@sirlordcapybara801]

I thought it was Dagon?

[@2st486]

@@sirlordcapybara801 nah dagon doesnt look like that. he's more fish-ish than squid/octopus-ish

[@2st486]

@@sirlordcapybara801 did you mean the ancient one in the movie Dagon? the film was cool but the ritual and how dagon looked were meh

[@sirlordcapybara801]

@@2st486 I haven't seen Dagon, I meant this movie. And yeah, he looks octopus-like, but his connection to the monsters in the movie reminded of the Deep Ones. Could really be either of them though.

[@kinghaki3000]

I'm just happy I finally got to see my boy Cthulhu in a movie.

[@maidenlesstree]

Yeaa dude me too

[@BunkerJunker]

And then our big boy gets blown up instantly. Vanishing in a big underwater fart.

[@Djm4114]

Personally, I really enjoyed this movie. I went into it with the idea that it wasn't going to be very good, and so I was pretty entertained.

[@TheCraziestFishInTheSea]

Didn't do him justice imo. Felt like he was an afterthought in this movie.

[@CockroachStomper]

@@BunkerJunker nah, he'll be back.

[@Darion350]

I thought Eminem did a decent job in this.

[@AntonisTsagaris]

ROFL

[@gediminasgabalis]

Omg 🤣🤣

[@nightmarekinggrimm7259]

Good one friend.

[@adnannaemaz1989]

You my friend have achieved comment gold status 👏🏻👏🏻

[@uhoh6706]

Damn

[@danielhounshell2526]

I think multiple monsters could've worked extremely well if they saved the reveal for the final parts of the film. That way you still get that cool moment of the MC finally taking out the monster, only to have that fleeting moment of hopefulness crushed by the true scale of what the characters are fighting.

[@robinrayee6333]

kind of like what they did in Alien:Isolation, Ripley jettisons the alien, only to find out it built a nest in the reactor of Sevastopol station

[@sonicdudeatdawn2]

Kind of like metroid fusion, with its dramatic reveal at the start of the third chapter

[@henrytheanglerfish6290]

Kind of like in Tremors where you think there’s only one graboid but after the first one is killed, 3 more show up

[@drago939393]

Sooooo... It would have been cool if what happened actually happened?

[@fyreblazters]

@@drago939393 if It happened.... differently

[@nicholasturner9881]

I actually liked this movie. It didn’t always make sense, but it was fun. I liked that it just drops the characters in the action. The big monster at the end was sick, once it’s revealed how massive it was. Not perfect, but fun nonetheless.

[@aaryandherange1515]

Same bud.

[@LordSkella]

I loved it too dude

[@quatremaillemusique]

Honestly, I think it's harsh to compare it to one of the best horror movies ever made. I have trouble to find something that only comes close to the feeling I had watching Alien for the first time. This movie wasn't great, it has very clear flaws, but also a bunch of very good ideas, making it a decent movie in the end

[@sterling7]

People tend to forget that the original audience going into "Alien" didn't know that Ripley was going to be the survivor. Weaver wasn't a big star in 1979, and there was no reason to assume the movie was going to follow her. Was there ever any question this movie was going to follow Stewart? There goes a big chunk of tension, right there. "Psycho" was as effective as it was, in part, because it threw its audience off its guard by killing the character we had been following early on. In a way, it created modern horror- but that lesson of genuine surprise has fallen by the wayside.

[@chilledsummer4287]

sterling7 yeah I remember doing a essay on the subject of the main character trobe and how we already know who will live and die in the movie before the plot is even introduced due to the whole famous Hollywood star theme a director who circumvented this was Katherine bigeloo and her deliberate refusal of big Hollywood stars to keep the tension high

[@chilledsummer4287]

sterling7 yeah I remember doing a essay on the subject of the main character trobe and how we already know who will live and die in the movie before the plot is even introduced due to the whole famous Hollywood star theme a director who circumvented this was Katherine bigeloo and her deliberate refusal of big Hollywood stars to keep the tension high

[@wreckcelsior]

@sterling7 Good call on using Psycho as a reference; Janet Leigh, at the time, was a bit of a Hollywood sweetheart as well, so the entire plot (theft/murder) was shocking to see, let alone unexpected. cheers

[@IHSchwingo]

Whatever the twist, the trailer would have spoiled it anyway

[@luciesimpson6437]

Children of Men was rather good with this point - not perfect, but it kept deaths unpredictable per the recognisable actors playing them.

[@TheMarionick]

Wait, so some people drilled a hole in the ocean floor and that made the creatures come out? Is this an accidental Pacific Rim prequel? Or Doom, but underwater.

[@HazzronIV]

Was getting strong Cloverfield vibes watching the movie, it could easily tie into all three though.

[@sephandremanticore5438]

The Meg

[@thebiggamers999]

or another south park bp Cthulhu episode

[@gerryjweathersthethird5284]

Muffled doom music starts.

[@VBplays01]

Lol at you for not knowing del toro is a HuGe lovecraft fan

[@divingdays]

Lmfao I like how he jabbed at himself “who is that? ITS SIMP”

[@Zlittlepenguin]

Gotta do it before everyone else does :P

[@ShovelChef]

💯 perfect

[@navonmyhand7999]

I laughed so hard at that

[@karrdashen9190]

@@navonmyhand7999 #metoo

[@Dani_RdM]

Self-burn, those are rare.

[@moegamadebraheemfredericks6557]

This movie was great. It was a survival movie, had me at the edge of the seat waiting to see if the characters would survive. It's marketing was terrible because almost no one knew it was coming out.

[@yaboisoe178]

Exactly it was awesome especially the ending monster it was crazzzyy

[@jackhanson3856]

@@yaboisoe178”The ending monster”. You mean Cthulhu?

[@runwei_1999]

“Five-year-old kid isn’t scary” Are u sure about that?

[@elenabob4953]

As another will say "not at all, barely an inconvenience"

[@haillobster7154]

Unless it complains to its parents about you. 😱

[@Cinna3unnz]

"I'm telling mom"

[@haillobster7154]

@@Cinna3unnz 😨😰😱

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

unless 5 year olds have become resistant to getting kicked, then no, they are not scary.

[@ColemanJRimer]

I could be wrong, I probably am, but a breach at that depth would fill the station in seconds. She wouldn't have time to run around.

[@julianjpantoja4603]

The pressure plot line was kind of inconsistent, dont pay much attention to it

[@briancates3576]

At that depth, a breach would cause such a catastrophic inrush of water, everyone would have died instantly from being incinerated by the diesel effect.

[@28theangel]

Brian Cates not only that sheer amount of pressure that rushes in would have completely destroyed everything.

Youre correct. I thought the exact same thing. It would have been instantaneous painless death in real life

[@MySoulReader]

from my very limited knowledge .at that depth if a hull breach would happen the nail poped out would be a railgun and before the nail hit anything else the entire structure would implode...at such depths the pressure is so high it changes the properties of things like disel and even batteries,its also highly unlikely a structure like those stations could be built when u pressurize something so humans can sit there you are basicly holding the ocean back,it would have to be a sphere not some random tube circle thing.

[@jorgevillenarojas8032]

this movie is like the south park episode when a drilling company woke up ctuhulu just because

[@aspenchilds6760]

We're sorry

[@Tattooedgaymer]

Woke

[@swahiliranger1022]

Sooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrryy..

[@laulen3448]

Hehe... Huuuuh... The monster here actually is Cthulhu, said by the director himself

[@ccole99]

Hikaru Joestar Took the words right out my mouth I thought that was pretty cool that it is actually Cthulhu at the end!!!

[@declanhuber4250]

3:58 "I wanna go home and party" is the best line of dialogue in any movie ever

[@RosieSquall]

It's an honest one.

[@willbo6530]

“Shut the door NOW!” The button could have been pressed by the guy standing there faster than that statement could have been uttered.

[@jackrogers5712]

He said he didn't know how to use the console.

[@newp848]

He wouldn't have known which button to press. (Though everything seemed to be giant red buttons or spacebars on a regular keyboard lmao

[@poqqery8950]

That could also have worked as a moment to define his character as someone who is willing to sacrifice others for the sake of preserving many more.

[@jge8144]

@@jackrogers5712 I didn't watch the movie, but why would a guy who doesn't know how to use the console be hired on their ship?

[@Seiyusung22]

@@jge8144 The "console" was broken she had to open it to "hack" it and she knew how. He, a few seconds later, stated he didn't know how to do that and she saved the entire station.

[@zhaozhisun4089]

I guess one of the reasons why this movie was layed out in such a way was that the makers really wanted to bring out the Cthullu-like creature as a cliff hanger. As a result the plot had to be compromised.

[@hebanker3372]

The small monsters resemble the Deep Ones and the big one looks like the upper half of Cthulhu.They tried to insert lovecraftian imagery in a horror monster movie.Bad combination.

[@birms3287]

Pro-tip. I walked into the movie with about 30-40 minutes left and it was great!

[@graphite7898]

@@birms3287 Interesting, did the lack of poor setup make it more interesting since you were thrown right into a terrifying situation or what?

[@birms3287]

@@graphite7898 Yeah and partly cause I walked into it for free. I don't have to justify my time or money spent on it. But yeah I just walked in and finished the movie and I thought it was pretty cool for that last third, not knowing anything else that came before.

[@hebanker3372]

@Lee McDonald It's a bad idea because the movie's tone is unfit for cosmic horror.The Sphere,Annihilation and The Lighthouse,which aren't directly lovecraftian,capture the lovecraftian atmosphere(simplicity,tension and slow decent into madness)pretty well.

[@Violent2aShadow]

Alien: "In space, nobody can hear your scream." Underwater: "In our movie, nobody cares."

[@dodgyb2001]

In Underwater, nobody can hear the dialogue. Honestly, I thought the sound mix was buggered as whenever there was the slightest background noise, or when they had the helmets on, I could barely understand what was being said. It was ridiculous.

[@6ixlxrd]

"In underwater, nobody can *see* you scream." I couldn't see a damn thing in this movie.

[@mrdude88]

The old god, Cthulhu, cried but nobody can see his tears underwater so no one cares.

[@mathewsmith548]

Angry virgin nerd

[@PHASES_OFFICIAL]

I actually really liked this one. Some parts were kinda silly but it was not terrible. I've seen a lot of monster movies and this one ranks higher than most lmao

[@JewishFrog]

Ye this movie was pretty decent. EFAP podcast did a takedown of this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKuypX5topmUepI

[@Mr_Monolith]

I think you mean you've seen alot of bad Monster movies. There are dozens of good ones, you just need to look past the shit, this argument could be made for any movie genre, just saying you've seen worse doesn't make a movie good

[@Robootions]

@@Mr_Monolith Damn, left people have an opinion.

[@Mr_Monolith]

@@Robootions I never said they couldn't have an opinion I stated my own. As far as monster movies go there are plenty of better ones... Alien, The Thing, The Original Godzilla/King Kong, Jurassic Park, Jaws and The Fly JUST TO NAME A FEW.

[@Robootions]

@@Mr_Monolith Alright.

[@k1ming]

Manager: This movie looks interesting Kristen Stewart: I'm In. Manager: But no plot, no characters development, no... Kristen Stewart: I'm In.

[@khosrowzare8301]

Everyone has their kinks.

[@djspit8929]

Yeah. Her manager/agent's kink must me desperately trying to get a terrible actress in movies

[@georgiosioannispappas]

She's like Nicholas Cage, she always chooses bad films.

[@Manganization]

@@djspit8929 except she's not a terrible actress. I don't know why people look at her role in Twilight and just seems adamant in condemning her forever over it, but maybe if people see her in her other roles and kill the sparkling vampires covering their eyes, they'd see that she's a good actress. The only problem is that most of the movies she's in isn't worth watching for the most part. Underwater is one of the better ones, and isn't as bad as people are making it out to be. The biggest flaw of the movie to me, besides being hard to see what's going on, was that it needed less of a soundtrack and less musical jumpscares. Being underwater is scary on its own. It should've just rolled with that.

[@francescagonzalezramos9442]

Damn you, Kristen Stewart!

[@kristennowlin3642]

A lot of modern movies have lost the art of the slow burn: they just go from 0 to 100 immediately. When this happens, the climax is lessened because, by that point, the audience has already seen the resemblance of a climax.

[@jackrogers5712]

It's because people have 5 second attention spans nowadays. If they don't get their explosions in the first three minutes of the movie they lose interest.

[@Schabo1234]

Jack Rogers True

[@emperorgameling5064]

@@jackrogers5712 People today still think movies like Alien are good, movies like this fail, that's not the problem.

[@dani.lepore9410]

People... people... It's not people's fault, it's all about companies not wanting to risk anymore.

[@commandercat10]

Man i loved the movie shutter Island because of the slowly building of suspicion and wonder where is the murder Then you get the twist

[@RickardLejonhjarta]

how to fail at alien: try to recreate alien

[@R_lulu]

Without what makes Alien a good movie

[@kyotheman69]

without understanding why Alien was good movie and great horror movie, it still holds up today

[@slackerdenile8836]

Life did it okay tbh.

[@jerondiovis6128]

James Cameron: sounds like a good idea, let's try it with Terminator.

[@Ratchet2431]

@@jerondiovis6128 But that was a success.

[@moneshvenkul6943]

Hey Filmento, at 5:30 you told us that we don't know what type of person she is, but in the movie, at the starting scene, we could see that she did not kill the spider and helped it to get out. From that, we can make conclusions about what type of person she is.

[@jarrettcleaver919]

Thank you!

[@olodiandrew219]

That's a stretch. Even psychopaths do that. The movie was straight up into the action. Its how they wanted it. Not a bad idea.

[@jackhanson3856]

But, I mean, can we REALLY? It’s a nice moment but, like, is that really all we get? Are you satisfied with that? A spider?

[@NimmelTheGreat]

@@jackhanson3856 The spider was just the first thing, she shows who she is in basically every scene she's in. Filmento did not even give this movie half a chance, he made a conclusion and ignored anything that didn't suit it. Pay attention to her when she's deciding to shut the door, the character work in this movie is actually great you just have to actually be looking at the screen to see it.

[@Bersekr21]

@@olodiandrew219 "Even psychopaths do that" - Okay buddy

[@YoungIroh]

I really enjoyed this movie. Not saying it's a masterpiece but the set peices, the cgi was decent, cinematography, the suits, didnt rely on just jumpscares. It's not a oscar worthy movie by any means but it is a pretty good horror movie

[@shaunenwright7872]

Exactly, it was good fun

[@AliXioN96]

I disagree with a lot said in this video. Is unfair with this film. As a person with thalasophobia, I can say it sets a pretty good atmosfere of Deep sea vastnes in the dark. Something Alien didn't had. This film plays not only with the monster or better said a race of monsters, (because using only one would be absurd in this story) but with the "space" void that is the deepest point in the ocean. On the surface of the sea you are nothing but a leaf in the wind. Totally vulnerable. At the bottom you are way worse. Aliens 2 used not one but a lot of aliens without devaluating the monster and is a really good movie. And starting a story in the middle of the action may be risky, but it doesn't have to be bad. If you pay atention to the movie, you get glimpses of how the characters think and what's their story.

[@karakas9905]

I was searching for someone who liked this, I knew this film was fucked when the first scene was the scene from trailer, what a waste of potential this film was,

[@BattleBeast-pm7bk]

I agree it wasn't Oscar worthy or anything like that but it was definitely a solid movie to me

[@kenji214245]

haha yeah if we look at the current bar for a good horror movie, Sure it was pretty good. Such a shame that the bar for a good horror movie is at my ankles currently. In terms of underwater Scifi this was a good movie. good effects, attention to details. Sadly to rushed. They should have aimed more for this and extended the movie length another 20 minutes for better build up. It almost had the charm of an 80's action flick. almost. In terms of horror it was bad enough to warrant a PG13 mark that's not really horror movie material in my eyes. Not to mention how rushed and chaotic it is which doesn't really create the fear response in people but instead causes a stress response. Like an action movie. At least alien got an PG15 rating.

[@masterchieftheconqueror2631]

This movie is like playing half-life as a scientist 2 floors above, and not Gordon Freeman.

[@atropa6053]

The bland characters might feel boring but isnt that more realistic? Its how professionals should act in those situations, cold and rational. Of course i didnt see the movie, so maybe they somewhow managed to be irrational and dumb as fuck at the same time :D

[@flow185]

@@atropa6053 Meh bland characters can be realistic and entertaining. But i understand your point here.

[@Pinnaporaptor]

Ah yes, you're from the Anomalous Materials lab, I recognize you!

[@Mike14264]

I hear Pyrocynical saying that.

[@dujdhfhfue6858]

@@Pinnaporaptor as a scp part of nine tales fox( bland is real)

[@shantanupednekar2344]

The pitch was Xenomorphs, but as fishes.

[@gongetya.9244]

No the pitch was Lovecraft with a modern take.

[@shantanupednekar2344]

@@gongetya.9244 yeah. That end monster was Cthullu.

[@dudemcfurgusson7179]

No, the pitch was the sequel to The Shape of Water.

[@Cinna3unnz]

@@shantanupednekar2344 cthulhu

[@mitchelltully6379]

Oooo pitch meetings are TIGHT

[@mirceaofrivia2331]

"why doing it in suits is dangerous?" Mariana trench pressure - eight tons per square inch, Mate, do you not know how to water?

[@Batlafication]

Then maybe show it in the movie

[@FinSane525]

@@Batlafication did you miss the guy imploding from pressure?

[@Batlafication]

@@FinSane525 apparently so! Haven't see the money sine last year

[@cameroncullen7632]

@@FinSane525 😳me when I saw his chunks of his body flying around

[@Derik.dunn07]

@@Batlafication "Then maybe show it in the movie." You know there is this clever thing the human mind can do called an "Inference" if you've been to the bottom of a swimming pool you know how quickly pressure increases with the depth, or the fact that you don't see divers dancing around on the titanic wreckage. Can't imagine why that might be. This isnt a movie or direction problem this is a YOU problem.

[@potawatadingdong]

I love how she's screaming "wake up" despite the alarms blaring and deafening noise.

[@SpockLover27]

If the movie had actually been done better, it wouldn't have been such a huge issue. In moments of panic, sometimes we do things that aren't the most logical. In a situation like that I'd say its fully realistic someone would be screaming for her crew mates to get up. Not really due to believing what she's doing will actually wake them, but more of a desperate action to think she's helping and can somehow prevent their demise.

[@madtrapper1312]

I like how she yells wake up and of course brush your teeth

[@Sodamanonzo]

I think she did it more out of panic that more people weren’t leaving their rooms.

[@ClaudioYanes84]

That's actually quite realistic.

[@thatguy_apu]

Loving the profile picture my man. HAMMER!

[@georgiosioannispappas]

Why on Earth hasn't Kristen Stewart replaced her agent yet? She's been on a streak of bad movies lately.

[@JohannesLilover]

Hahhaha

[@georgiosioannispappas]

@Aman Smith-martin I confirm she's never been into a good film.

[@Xenophene01]

More like... why is she even in any movie... and on the front cover.

[@robertodupinet5415]

@Aman Smith-martin Panic Room

[@franciclope]

You could ask to : why her agent hasn't replaced Kristen Stewart.

[@Moldybaguette]

“A boring, pointless walking simulator” Did you mean: *The walking dead*

[@Kaliosthesecond]

Death Stranding?

[@Ironman12221]

@@Kaliosthesecond now this is how you make jokes right there

[@muhammad5147]

i only liked this because my like was the 100th

[@6th_Army]

@@Kaliosthesecond He said pointless. Not wasteful.

[@Darion350]

@@Kaliosthesecond Man, I loved Desth Stranding. That game was so polarizing.

[@jackd6881]

Parker wasnt selfish he was being rational in that scene he was explaining how the nostromo was not a rescue ship and they where ill equipped and unprepared for such actions. He also was asking for equal pay with the rest of the crew for both himself and brett.

[@JohnGalt916]

She was in two of the biggest flops in 2019, and personally I cannot think of a single movie that she was in that anyone likes. Yet somehow she wins actress of the decade?

[@adnannaemaz1989]

coolerintext what!!!!

[@vegetta00]

You can't think of a single movie that anyone likes? Twilight made her into a star. Tons of people (mostly women and teens) loved that first film.

[@darthsilversith667]

coolerintext Exactly. My theory is that she has some dirt on the higher ups in Hollyweird and that’s how she’s managed to keep getting work. How she pulled off that award though is beyond me.

[@Theonixco]

@@vegetta00 The saying is Might doesn't make right, there are plenty of popular films (and actors) that are mediocre at best, horrible at worst.

[@cashuflakbreakdancer]

@@darthsilversith667 maybe she filmed a personal undie scene with one of the higher ups

[@squareroots6003]

This movie should have started the way every space movie start. A routine maintenance duty where you use the coms to introduce your characters, and relationships between them. Here it would be on the ocean floor, and it goes horribly wrong, when they get attacked and only one of the two crew members make it back, not only do you introduce your characters and monsters, but also you set up that walking outside is dangerous for later on when they actually need to do it.

[@danpenia219]

100% agree

[@MrRugbyloosehead]

Your hired!!! now go make the reboot!!

[@freeman2399]

That's exactly what I was thinking, they put us into the shit way to fast, and it felt rushed the hole time.

[@AnonimusQualquer]

And then people would still complain that it starts the way every space movie starts. Pick up your poison

[@АлександрБычков-к4н]

So you just want a cliche horror movie.. for what? To criticize it for being cliche?

[@williepete1969]

To all the people talking about how "Lovecraft" this movie is: there is almost nothing lovecraftian about this movie, only the design of the big monster. Tentacles, underwater monsters, and underwater monsters with tentacles doesn't make something lovecraftian. There's more to it than that.

[@Sylph8141]

You outta ask the director on that one, since its based around cthulhu/is about cthulhu

[@ReneAensland]

Thank you. Big fucking whoop, you used a Cthulhu influence on your fucking creature, nothing about plot, other-worldly is involved in this film about it. And thank God, he would have ruined Lovecraft as well.

[@williepete1969]

@@Sylph8141 well he didn't do a good job of that, not that I particularly dislike the film itself

[@wodthehunter8145]

@@williepete1969 Not enough on the nose racism and no city dwelling white male protagonist to save the world from the fish people and scary foreigners with strange religions? You are correct, it's not very Lovecraftian.

[@williepete1969]

@@wodthehunter8145 lmao shut the fuck up

[@clairetellkamp6253]

I really liked this movie. It was tight, concise, and wasn't trying to do anything more than be a fun, little Lovecraftian horror. And I'd say it did it pretty well. Held true to Lovecraft pretty well, characters made sense and weren't more complicated than they had to be, and made smart decisions that kept them alive until forces beyond their control made them make terrible sacrifices.

[@ellisgill1337]

FACTS the movie didn't suck

[@MrLilstroh]

Made smart decisions?!?! They shoot a baby alien, bring it into the ship and start touching it with their bare hands. I’m not even 45 minutes into this movie and this shit does not make any sense.

[@geez84]

exactly! I also realized it lovecraftian themed horror, and the themes really reflected true to that. The unknown and the vastness of the trenches was perfect for feeling the dread of how little we know about the world.

[@clairetellkamp6253]

@@MrLilstroh They don't know if it's an alien or not. We don't know if it's an alien or not. As far as anyone is concerned, it's a creature that evolved to live off geothermal gas or something at the bottom of the Mariana Trench. They even say as much, saying that the creature was likely sealed off from the rest of the world, and only released from it's subterranean vents when the drilling came through. Second of all, I do not recall them touching it with their bare hands at all, considering they only encountered it after donning their suits, and I'm fairly sure the gloves don't come off their suits.

[@ellisgill1337]

@@MrLilstroh it's an UNDERWATER creature. Not like it's from the planets natural order. It'd be different if it came from outside the earth's atmosphere.

[@freeman2399]

I honestly thought the opening scene was a dream sequence, that would end with her walking up in her bunk for another routine day.

[@jackrogers5712]

So did I. So did most people I think. It likely would have been better that way, because we would have gotten to know her and some of the other characters as we go through a day in her life. Instead we're just thrown into chaos 5 seconds in and given no reason to care about anything.

[@canis966]

I 100% thought the exact same thing, so did my brother. I started to think that they were really dragging out this dream sequence until I realized that this was the actual plot.

[@nocturnalbrolyfury5704]

Yeah and honestly I'm glad it was actually real and happening at a random moment, instead of having a cliché trope where characters are introduced long enough for the major events to pop out when the characters were done sharing each other's behaviors and personality.. how convenient.

[@NoctemAeternusMusic]

Jesus Paredes Pena completely agree

[@wiseguy01]

I legit thought this was gonna be like a Lovecraftian horror movie with Deep One inspired creatures and unknowable eldritch horrors. The characters slowly going insane inside the claustrophobic confines of the crumbling underwater facility and having to deal with members of the group turning on each other while also trying to survive the creatures. Maybe even reveal that one of the characters has a connection to the sea monsters because Deep Ones... they breed with humans a lot... I also didn't expect a happy ending... because Lovecraftian horror doesn't really do happy endings. But even so, I think you were harder on this movie than it deserves... it's not perfect, sure, but it is still a serviceable horror/thriller film. It's not great by any means but the effects were well done and the creature designs were really awesome. It could have been much better, I agree. As a big fan of these types of movies over the over-saturation of Star Wars and comic book films... I am happy it got this sort of quality at all. I mostly watch older movies when it comes to scifi/horror because the drop in quality over the years is very noticeable and I can't bring myself to be interested in most current films anymore...

[@CaioRCS]

The thing is, the big monster at the end IS Chtulhu. As the director of the movie confirmed.... It just makes it sadder.

[@cooltrainervaultboy-39]

What you just described is a movie that I would actually want to see. How is it that everyday ordinary people like us have more creativity and imagination that Hollywood big wigs?

[@drunkdogwithagun468]

Also it was a January movie I believe so no one had hope the movie was gonna do good. They were just hoping to recoup and at least break even I think

[@Psychoangel-d23]

@@cooltrainervaultboy-39 It´s an incestious shithole were you only can go big if you got the contacts to do so. Ordinary people have no chance to get in there even if talented. On youtube alone there is a considerable amount of talented people who barely get any recognition for it.

[@heyyoitsmebrian]

i still wanna rent this movie... im going to pause this review and watch the movie. this is so in my wheelhouse i gotta give it a shot. even if its a C+ or B- ill be ok with that. he did say right up top ::: there is some great stuff in here / set designs / music etc

[@Ocean5ix]

I actually liked this movie. It was definitely a better Alien movie than the recent Alien movies IMO.

[@rateater1857]

true, but that's not really a high bar...

[@fletcherw32]

I liked it too but only because it played off my inate fears of the deep ocean, lovecraft, and also Kristen Stewarts hot. Worth a watch for me at least I liked a lot of the imagery.

[@jebes909090]

My only problem with the movie is it didn't have the 20 minute slow build up where you get to know everyone, THEN the disaster hits. At least get the audience familiar with who they're suppost to care about. Its standard for disaster movies.

[@chrisgrondin9487]

Yeah I enjoyed it as well. Though it was no masterpiece like Alien it was a decent homage to it. The Cthulhu thing I totally wasn't buying and seemed like an afterthought... if you're going to make a Cthulhu movie you have to include the madness he inspires and perhaps a hint of the mythos. This was as much the Kraken as anything.

[@maninthemask6275]

Meh cosmic horror elements have been trash any way. The “reason why this thing is scary is because you can’t comprehend it.” Just ends being not scary more aggressive and sea monster like Cthulhu is more terrifying then me slowly going insane.

[@riteshkumbhare4955]

For me atleast, the element of how vast & dark ocean is, was enough to enjoy the movie. I am not at all comfortable with underwater visuals and that's what made the movie very interesting for me.

[@mnuncio8793]

Why does it seem every movie Kristen Stewart is in flops

[@theblasblas]

She's a terrible actor who only simps who make simp movies like.

[@darthsilversith667]

theblasblas She’s not even worthy of a simp though and especially with her short/buzzed hair looks. She doesn’t make a good blonde either. Perhaps if she put on 20 pounds, grew her hair out again and went back to brunette plus stopped being overly PC. Then.. she might be worthy (even then I wouldn’t simp her, but could admit to her being attractive) of having simps.

[@bugzyhardrada3168]

I dont think she can do anything about it.... she was born a blunt unattractive talentless husk of a human......its just how it is....

[@treskyplesky1189]

She´s not a great actress, simple as that.

[@kiiltochii1607]

She's known from Twilight, which makes 2/3 of people avoid her, and the rest are Twilight fans who avoid her after she cheated on Rob. Also she aint that good of an actress

[@150_asharifadhilaha2]

Never thought in my life would see Eminem running around with bra

[@jrpueyo7531]

I saw Logic, maybe because of the glasses.

[@aronnemcsik]

i thought he's just into some crossdressing

[@seapeajones]

Haha.

[@_V.Va_]

Yeah I thought the bra would be on his eyes.

[@MLBlue30]

I thought she was hot.

[@astrumrocket6556]

Personally, I REALLY liked the perspective of this movie! I feel like I'm in the minority here, but I like this kind of setup... Just some random schmucks, going about their day, not doing anything exceptional or different from usual, and then BAM! Plot happens! It makes me sink into the movie, since I'm trying to figure it out along with the characters, while thinking at the same time how I would react in a similar situation. To me, Underwater gave exactly what I wanted, and I'll likely watch it many more times in the future.

[@AE-ee6mg]

The ending too... wow! I thought the movie was mediocre for the first two thirds, but that final reveal made me so happy.

[@astrumrocket6556]

@@AE-ee6mg Yeah a bunch of awesome moments. Also, I feel like the Big Monster was set up pretty well. It was never shown, but, it's effects have. It was stated that the station was several thousand tons, so it took massive amounts of force to knock it out, and the smaller monsters had nowhere near that strength, so obviously there had to be something bigger. Also, bonus points for it being Cthulu.

[@astrumrocket6556]

​@Golden Robodude Ok, as long as they are not the super mean ones!

[@zonastarwars4397]

so... Alien

[@AE-ee6mg]

@@astrumrocket6556 I saw it and was like '...is this Cthulhu?" then I found out. Complete respect. That first scene of it appearing out of the shadows was so brilliant. Redeemed the entire film.

[@kylepeters8690]

A big problem I have with this movie (despite the fact I like it for the most part) is when you realize that the monsters are Cthulhu and the deep ones from H.P Lovecraft. And suddenly the fact she can kill the deep one so easily and that they hound the crew becomes moronic as a large part of lovecraftian horror is how insignificant we are to them, Cthulhu would never go after a tiny escape pod in the same way you wouldn't go after a lone ant even if you were smashing the ant hill. And she kills them at the end, nuke or not Lovecraftian beings can't be killed, death is more like a nap for them. and even if you ignore that the monsters feel pointless and unneeded. Why are they going after the crew, why are they hounding them, why do they care. It's not like they are eating them aside from that one moment and there are millions of them so it's not for food. So why? there's no point to them. I think if this had just been a flat survival horror with the crew trying to escape as the rig sank and collapsed in on itself it would be far better. This would also give more time to develop the characters.

[@drago939393]

Honestly although the movie is flawed, my biggest issue is the director saying that that was literally Cthulhu. Like, why? What does that claim add to the movie? How is that aspect in any way utilized? It's better off as a standalone solo flic about weird undersea creatures, no Cthulhu.

[@kylepeters8690]

@@drago939393 agreed. It feels like it's trying to get extra attention for it as if people are going to flock to anything with HP Lovecraft content. Sure lovecraftian horror is beloved but it's not like Lovecraft is some big money printer

[@drago939393]

@@kylepeters8690 Yeah. I had 0 knowledge about the movie up until today. I watched a review for Love and Monsters (having watched it the other night) which mentioned how the original draft for that movie had "basically Cthulhu" at the end, at which point the reviewer showed the poster for Underwater. I immediately looked up the movie exclusively due to the Lovecraftian/Cosmic Horror implication; I saw the Wikipedia summary and decided to give it a try, since I like giving "box office bombs" a blind try and since I just recently saw a comment talking how Kristen Stewart low-key became a good leading actress. After watching it I was certainly let down by the lack of literally anything actually Lovecraftian/Cosmic Horror - or even just any type of psychological horror. Otherwise, it's an alright "Alien, but Thalassophobia" movie, sound in every aspect but creativity and ambition. As you implied, it either should have been a completely "ocean is the antagonist" and/or "humans are evil" and/or disaster movie (maybe with more focus on psychological trauma of the job and long-term deep-sea habitation, as implied by the opening?) OR it should have leaned far harder and deeper into the mystical, surreal and Lovecraftian. Like this it's awkwardly neither here nor there, with the "akshually, it was literally Cthulhu" statement sounding like an almost ironically self aware example of how to fail at "Show, don't tell". 7/10 - hoped for the next Annihilation, but only got flat-chested elven beauty.

[@Draculas-knight]

@@kylepeters8690 i think its more of how thirsty fans of lovecraftian horror are we never ever had 1 lovecraftian cosmic horror movie none nada , some games (most terrible , some decent , one unexpectadly good and its not even portrayed as such but oozes with cosmic horror and you even can become on at the end )

[@kylepeters8690]

@@Draculas-knight I'd call color out of space a great lovecraftian horror, same with the thing. But the fact those are the only two that spring to mind is depressing. As for games I only know a few, bloodborne which I adore, and call of Cthulhu for the ps4 which just angered me as it had so little to do with lovecrafts works and especially the name sake of the game, while also just making dozens of false promises about how the traumas and madness would effect the game only for it to barely effect anything other than the odd dialog. In theory it's a simple genera to work with but given how hard people are to scare nowadays it's rather hard to pull off without removing the horror.

[@HellHoundSabu]

This film is very divisive. I see a 50/50 split, half saying the film is terrible because there no set up at the beginning. & half saying its great because it gets straight into the action. I personally like this film because it doesn't hold may hand and tell me what to think and fell it just is. Its left open to interpretation.

[@ellisgill1337]

Folks want shit HANDED to them it was a good movie for what it was. Folks in the comment section want these people whole life story, you don't have to feel CONNECTED to every got damn person. Hell what did they really know about the people in Alien which is the film they are comparing this to.

[@АлександрБычков-к4н]

@@ellisgill1337 Exactly!

[@mitchellconner6928]

@@ellisgill1337 We knew they were real people with real feelings, ideas, and goals. In fact, we were so thoroughly aware of their humanity that when we learned one wasn't human, it was a surprise. The problem with not giving the audience anything about the characters is that without anything to care about, they become, effectively, the same as set pieces or extras in the background. They aren't part of the story, the story is happening around them.

[@ellisgill1337]

@@mitchellconner6928 oh ok 😐

[@mitchellconner6928]

@@ellisgill1337 yeah, I know, I'm late to the party. Sorry bout that.

[@yourmamom]

First time I've seen a video show up in recommended after 11 seconds.

[@fernandosanchez9726]

So you're telling me Kristen Stewart single handedly eradicated a local unknown species, and probably a couple more, from the Mariana Trench ?

[@CedricBassman]

Yeah because when you put it that way it completly ignores that said species were highly lethal predators with the biggest one being near Godzilla (2014) size.

[@Dash101]

Sounds sort of in the region of the abomination they called the Meg

[@f_f_f_8142]

@@CedricBassman There is no way a creature adapted to living that deep would even survive going to the surface and even if it could: do you assume it would go and hunt fisherboots? The only humans this creatures would ever come across are cased inside 100 000 tonnes of steel. There are probably more people dying from fights with cows than are endangered by those sea creatures.

[@CedricBassman]

@@f_f_f_8142 "There is no way a creature adapted to living that deep would even survive going to the surface" And your proof is where? The only problem they maybe would have is the change in temperature, and who says they can't adapt to that or already have. Who says they would stay in the Deep Ocean, who says they can't go on land? From what we've seen from the Movie there is a shitload of them and they seem to reproduce rather fast. This thing destroyed a whole mining base build to whistand the deep sea, but sure you're gonna be totally safe on a boat. Always love it when people try to apply real world logic to a fantasy creature and aren't even good at it.

[@nahuelleandroarroyo]

@@CedricBassman Temperature? Pressure would be more critical, at that depth pressure is stupid high, and animal adapted yo that pressure would explode when subjected to 1 atmosphere (10mts depth), subs get away with it (to a certain extent) by not having compressible(or expandible) surfaces, which an organic creature has. Moreover why would they invade the surface (or at least the shallows)? If they were the apex of an underground biome why move? Can they feed on regular fish? If so why hunt humans? They wasted more calories hunting this guys that they would actually get from eating them.

[@bealight5141]

I didnt know about the movie til it was rentable online, it cost me $4 and I loved it. I even loved it despite being completely anti Kristen Stuart. I feel like it was a good throwback to some of the late 80’s early 90’s movies I grew up with.

[@yaboisoe178]

I liked it also. I thought it was coo n the monsters were scary too me

[@Chyrre]

Underwater base: Walls explode with thundering noise Kirsten Stewart: yells Wake up Me: ...

[@user-oo3iy3nt1i]

Yeah just let people explode

[@sullygroot924]

@@user-oo3iy3nt1i you have to be memeing or joking

[@user-oo3iy3nt1i]

Sully Groot bruh

[@francesco8000]

"A thousand 5 years old kids could definitely kill you" Was that a challenge? Well, Challenge accepted!

[@Zanchin]

rofl :P

[@rippl3r0]

I'd pay to see that. Is this how Hunger Games starts?

[@francesco8000]

@@rippl3r0 It's just part of human nature wanting to see a good fight. I don't know if my fight against a thousand 5 years old will be good, but at least it will be atypical.

[@joshuagraham5750]

Francesco *Bfg Division bass boosted plays*

[@blakethompson-dodd9874]

Technically 1,000 5 year-olds have so far failed to kill me.

[@Quick-Silver206]

"People working together to survive. No romances, no clashes. That's not interesting." Come on wtf. I hate when stupid character's stupid decisions creat stupid situations. It's not realistic.

[@Inscissorr]

But reality sucks, that is why stupid conflict needs to happen on movies, otherwise it becomes boring.

[@Quick-Silver206]

@@Inscissorr Oh I agree that if everyone was acting perfectly logical then it would be boring. I just mean that they shouldn't act completely stupid. Like in most average movies.

[@Inscissorr]

@@Quick-Silver206 understandable

[@treehouse2902]

What makes movies interesting is that we learn about characters, if only a little bit. It's called character development. We didn't know much about the people on the Nostromo but just enough to learn and make a connection with them, especially Ripley. She was a bitch from the get-go but a good intelligent bitch.

[@CRAM079]

Its actually very realistic.

[@ralphlevel7937]

they tried to kill the monsters for NOUGH reason

[@gabrielguerrero7296]

I mean why not kill them

[@dazmaster22]

@@gabrielguerrero7296 it's a joke from a podcast.

[@Zeddyboi86]

I hope they do an EFAP movies for it.

[@banyarling]

I saw this in the theater. It wasn’t bad but wasn’t memorable either. The main monster gets WAY too little screen time for how awesome it is.

[@MarcoBayod_MB]

It wasn't about the monster, it was about saving a spider.

[@campeãodomundo2137]

This has become one of Cthulhu's trademarks - we never get much of him physically, but the effects of him being there can be seen.

[@banyarling]

@@campeãodomundo2137 it's not canonical that nobody gets a good long look at him. The production just ran out of cash.

[@ChiBear]

Underwater is like Alien, in that it's a watered down version of what it's trying to imitate without capturing any of the flavours that made Alien so iconic in the first place.

[@lordderppington4694]

did you just say it was a watered down version of alien? ;)

[@Isaackariuki775]

I see what you did there......

[@Happyjethappy]

how can you use so many words and say nothing?

[@Gruntvc]

Its so bad it can't even be considered a good Aliens rip off. You're way better off sticking with Alien 1979 and Aliens 1986. Hollywood just seems incapable of recapturing the magic of those two films.

[@pajnolan4459]

@God King Vegeta agreed. She's just hard to like, and hard to watch. A poor actress with no range.

[@roguehandle1688]

The visuals look stunning! Feel a little sad for the movie.

[@hebanker3372]

I agree.I think I'll give it a watch just for that. Edit:I did a quick research and found the director is mainly a cinematographer.So it makes sense.

[@Assassin199410]

It's nothing like Alien. I love this movie! It's truly amazing!

[@Assassin199410]

@No Go It made sense to me.

[@Assassin199410]

@No Go He died from getting stabbed in the original short story which he was introduced. Sooo

[@Assassin199410]

@No Go He died by getting stabbed by a boat.

[@centocerez]

I disagree with most points you brought up... I loved that the movie starts with the plot right away, I love that the characters aren't the usual bunch of conflicting and betraying assholes but some coworkers that care about each other, I love that their personalities an histories are revealed during the movie not just stated at the beginning, I had no problem following the plot, I don't understand why the protagonist has to be the cause or epicenter of the event, the whole point about too many monsters doesn't even makes sense and I screamed in joy when fucking Cthulhu showed up. And in the end she blowed up the station to stop the monsters from catching up the escape pods, maybe you didn't get it but it's shown on the computer screen. Is it the best movie ever? Not even close. Is it better than Alien? Not even close. Is it a bad movie? Absolutely not.

[@dresean3725]

Thank you, well said

[@frde2190]

I think if done properly, having the movie go straight into the action is a really good idea. As we get to see what our characters are like throughout the movie, and their choices can be suprising. This movie did it pretty well imo

[@melonytoni9016]

I agree with you in some way, the action packed start was something more fresh. The pacing in general was decent. But I also get his point, the characters didnt get established and so I personally didnt care about a single one of them. None of the deaths affected me, i didnt worry about any of the characters. I also thought the monster design was kinda lame and some stuff didnt make sense. Those things can pull a human through a suite, rip out limbs etc. But when fighting against the main character it cant even harm her before starting to eat. Might just have been lazy writing idk. Also as soon as she killed the first one and the others woke up I literally said out loud that the mother is gonna shut them down or call them. It was really predictable. Same as her sacrifice.

[@mr.sinjin-smyth]

*It tried to be an Alien wannabe while Alienating the Alien fanbase pretty much like the recent Alien prequels*

[@id3nverse80]

Pretty sure it was trying not be but fanboys like you always look to much into it lol, yall are no fun at parties are you?

[@thepixelatedgirl4741]

Someone has a negative opinion on something. They must be baad

[@kyotheman69]

well catching alien in bottle is hard, look at Ghostbusters, 2 doesn't even compare to original Aliens was done by different director

[@joelsjimenez3256]

This movie is ten times better than any Alien movie to come out after Aliens. At the very least, the crew is competent and composed. No bullshit like taking off their helmets on an unknown planet. No cheesy over the top shit. It's not super deep, but it all makes sense. It's a n enjoyable movie to me. The Alien prequels on the other hand are just infuriating.

[@mk6315]

It’s almost like they made us feel like...aliens 🤔

[@one_man_community]

People don't understand Cthulhu. His existence is an idea, an idea to question our perception of size. Lovecraft described him as acute yet obtuse, which describes him as a fourth dimensional being, and us trying to best transcribe his geometric appearance. This movie isn't lovecraftian, if something isn't fully observed, hiding in an abyss, because they're unknown, that doesn't make them a lovecraftian monster. Lovecraft done right in film, really only one example, that is "Color Out Of Space" directed by Richard Stanley.

[@DankMadness12]

@@Visitormassacre exactly

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Yeah Cthulhu is like a Horror version of a Kaiju only this time there are no Mechs, magufin bombs ect. Just a monster you can't beat, you can't beat him physically, you can't out smart him, you can't even look at him without losing your mind. Thats what Cosmic horror is about.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

@LibtardsStillCant SilenceMe16 but considering the gods of Cthulhu don't care about humanity its not really a plus or at least not as good of a plus than you might think.

[@lsimon343]

Color out of space was pretty good but I think because Cluthulu ISNT tangible is the problem. Movie goers want a big badging to see and touch. The “ idea” of a monster is lost on American audiences. Interesting argument…..;)

[@higaiwokeru]

@@lsimon343 true, if mainstream audiences don’t have a big bad guy, they won’t like the film HOWEVER, it is better to slowly introduce them to the “idea” of the monster with Cthulhu’s lost city and statues and his presence, I feel like it should be a two part series of movies First part in which we find what it could be, what it can do and the people that want to wake it up and the second part could be trying to stop the cult from waking it up, finding out it is inevitable with or without the cult’s actions

[@MLPSilverQuill]

I'm interested by your statement about being in an event's epicenter as opposed to its aftershocks. Offhand, one could bring up _The Thing_ as an example of how the aftershock can still make for a great, frightening movie. Do you think the visit to the destroyed outpost and the footage the main cast witnesses helps overcome the sense of disconnect _Underwater_ struggles against?

[@silentsoundwave9415]

That's a good point. I also wonder if perhaps the fact that they inadvertently keep the Norwegians from killing the monster at the beginning also makes them somewhat at fault for the monster even if they are not those who originally unearthed it? That might cut down on some of the disconnect maybe?

[@s-o-u-p6095]

but in the thing, isn't it the scientists' faults on-site who unearthed it and ALSO didn't report it in. The film is at the epicentre and is caused by the faults of the crew. No wonder the thing and alien are both so good, surprisingly similar in plot points.

[@atTheHop]

In The Thing, they brought the dog into their base.

[@happynihilist2573]

That point is SO DUMB!!! He's basically implying that diester movie can't be good if it isn't the character's fault for it. Like, WOAY!!?!? He says It's more "organic" that way and it the "epicentre of the plot event it revolves around" witch just sound like mingles buzz-word-salad to me! I don't even agree with him abut Alien!! It is made VERY CLEAR they are only there because of COPANY POLCY and wan Ash is revealed to be android the the company SETET THEM UP FOR THIS!! ITS WHY THERE'S AN ANDROID THER TO BIGEAN WITH!!! And what about the alien spaceship? Isn't that like "watching a second rate version of the a much beater story"? I disagree, I think Aftermath stories can be really cool whey the diester's cause remines a mystery. ALSO DOSEN'T ALIENS ALSO DO ALL THE THINS HE CRITECIZED!!!??!!?

[@sealman3153]

@@happynihilist2573 "WHO'S THE FUCKING NIHILIST HERE! WHAT ARE YOU, A BUNCH OF FUCKING CRYBABIES?"

[@JewishFrog]

So... The main critiques of this movie were "I didn't pay attention so I was confused by the events taking place." and "I wanted to see a different movie.", alright then.

[@MajorJack92]

EXACTLY like omg why can't people just like it for what it is??

[@JewishFrog]

@@MajorJack92 There is actually quite a lot to like about it when you pay attention to it instead of trying to compare it to Alien on every occasion.

[@JewishFrog]

@@MajorJack92 The characters were surprisingly decent for a movie like that, the sets were pretty great and story rather simple but still effective.

[@chrisbaker8533]

"an original concept movie" Nope. Leviathan and Deep star six did it back in the 80s. and did it slightly better.

[@IronDino]

I've now got to watch these.

[@Ganginho85]

Better? What?

[@sullygroot924]

Amazing call outs man

[@BingoDa504]

Leviathan is all I can think of when I saw this...classic movie

[@thegreycrusader]

@@BingoDa504 my thoughts exactly.

[@paskari]

I don't know why no one has pointed this out, this is more of an Alien: Isolation (the game) movie than an Alien Movie. Right down to the slow mo cut scenes, the checkpoint mission re-analysis, and the first person walk through the bottom of the ocean scenes

[@SILVER-zf2hu]

Reminded me a bit of SOMA as well.

[@Virtualblueart]

@@SILVER-zf2hu It does. But Soma's story worked (imo) because your character is kind of "kidnapped" into the whole situation and the story is explained along the way by the "station" and people we start to learn about and care and feel sorry for when the truth comes out. I do think Soma's big "reveal" about your character would have been better a little later in the game after you might have worried about if you have enough oxygen and finding out you don't seem need it for some reason.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

Alien isolation game is fantastic tho

[@yomomma2054]

Alien, The Thing (1982), we cared for the people...baseline example was good too because both Alien and the first "The Thing" had baseline characters

[@willthorson4543]

Second thing. Lol

[@gaywerewolf1294]

You: The Thing Me: do you mean the first version of Among Us?

[@АлександрБычков-к4н]

What do you know about characters in "the thing"? What do you know about Nostromo's crew? People are so biased.. the only difference here it's your nostalgia for those films, and maybe your cinism which grows with you getting old.

[@gentlemen.7621]

To me, Life is a good example of how to make a good survival-alien film

[@WobblesandBean]

It's been years and the ending to "Life" STILL haunts me.

[@songbird7450]

Except for when the alien bumps into the steel door while a cartoon sound plays - that scene was hilarious

[@dabinhaler1337]

@@WobblesandBean yeah the endings great

[@alphamineron]

@@songbird7450 no it was the door close sound, a squid doesn’t make sound when hitting. Common misinterpretation

[@DeadPixel1105]

Life was absolutely amazing.

[@GGchannel1025]

"Heres how not to Alien" *Cuts to Pampers commercial*

[@josmo1363]

I just kept wanting to know how and why they had concrete, brickwork and tiles on an underwater habitat

[@qshaundt4519]

Bro what? I was so confused like that's allowed? Their not violating any codes

[@qshaundt4519]

They're*

[@Steel_Scholar]

That had me scratching my head too... Not so much the tile work but the reinforced concrete for sure.

[@josmo1363]

@@Steel_Scholar For me it was more the tiles, yes you could do it but it would be a non-essential luxury item on a multi-million if not billion, dollar rig so why would you The company that built it would be using steel all the way and how much concrete do they use in the construction of a submarine And how much tile work is on the inside of the ISS I could be wrong but I'm petty sure it's none Now that I think of it I can't even accept the concrete as how do you get a substance to cure that uses water as a mixing agent when it's ........underwater

[@anthonymurphy6649]

Very true! And right at the beginning of the movie the bs started

[@nerulon089]

When you talking about the Monster part, that is EXACTLY what my problem was with A Quiet Place. They said in the movie the creatures are strong, can't be killed, destroyed half of the planet etc... BUT at the end, a single shot can kill them... I mean, really ? Nothing special just shoot in the mouth ? Ofcourse the military couldn't figure that out by themselfs.

[@SDesWriter]

Yeah, that would be the FIRST thing they'd figure out. That the face covering is like a shield and what is needed to get past that. I also never bought the part about it being so thick that they were protected from heavy gunfire and explosions. It's just not plausible. I kind of enjoyed that movie for the isolated family being in danger thing, but as aliens taking over the planet? Not even a little. At least with Tomorrow War the only reasons the aliens could dominate is their sheer numbers. You could injure or kill them but what does it matter when you kill 1 and then are swarmed by hundreds?

[@167thSpartan]

It's a shame, I got so excited for this movie when I saw the announcement trailer because the concept seemed so fun and interesting. Problem is after seeing it, I liked it, It was so unique in concept, but failed to really standout in any way, the movie just felt so wanting. I really couldn't figure out what was missing, so I loved how your video put all those feeling into words.

[@miguelortiz3836]

I think what makes it likeable is mainly the settings, at least for me. I don't know but the bottom of the ocean seems like an ideal setting for a horror story especially since deep space has been used a bit too much lately. I hope they use that setting a bit more on a better way

[@notahotshot]

"It was so unique a concept." Alien, 1978 The Thing, 1982 Laviathan, 1989 Deep Star Six, 1989 The Abyss, 1989 Lords of the Deep, 1989 The Rift, 1990 All variations of: The Thing From Another World, 1951 An isolated group of people struggle to survive against a monster released by their own actions.

[@purpleguy319]

@@notahotshot don't forget Sphere and does Virus count?

[@samueluzochukwu759]

@@miguelortiz3836 it would really be nice the bottom of th ocean in general is so vast and unsettling. Its a good setting for horror

[@miguelortiz3836]

@@samueluzochukwu759 if you like videogames you could take a look at Soma. It is a great psychological horror one.

[@DiggitySlice]

"How to fail at Alien" It's called Prometheus and Covenant

[@_V.Va_]

It's called every movie after Alien 2. MAYBE 3.

[@shmeckle666]

•Vï •Mo• that’s a HARD fucking maybe, mate. Really, really-REALLY hard. Lmao

[@nachoocampo9263]

@@shmeckle666 Those alien dogs were... a choice

[@maasawdreamt8521]

How dare you, I loved those lol

[@nachoocampo9263]

@@maasawdreamt8521 To each, their own I guess haha

[@fenrirsilver6441]

I think Kristen Stewart is playing a game with herself, its called "How many bad movies can I star in, before no one will pick me up?"

How she ever got cast in the first place is beyond me...must give good head

[@M0ntarro]

@ Her parents are insanely rich, the other give her a good head or whatever she is in to.

[@Assassin199410]

This movie isn't even "bad" though.

[@fenrirsilver6441]

@@Assassin199410 if I am being honest, I haven't watched it, but it sounds like it failed in what it wanted to do. So, I would say if it failed then doesn't that make it bad?

[@Assassin199410]

@@fenrirsilver6441 I watched it and I thought it delivered amazingly. It's a monster movie with Cthulu like creatures.

[@Jarvernors]

Underwater fails at being Alien, because it's not trying to be Alien. Taking inspiration from and making minor references to previous, influential horror and sci-fi movies is wholly different from copying them. Underwater does the former, and it's a damn good horror movie in its own right. No, it's no Alien or The Thing, but it doesn't have to be. It's a well written, well acted, and really well executed movie, with a fair share of its own issues, without having to be compared to Alien. All that aside, they don't spend half an hour introducing the characters, because we get to know them throughout the film. We learn about them based on their actions and reactions in this stressful scenario. The bulkhead scene you complain about tells us specifically what you wanted; that she hesitated, tried to save them, even at the risk of her own life, but was willing to make the tough choice to rescue the rest of the people. And you shouldn't care about those people because you know them personally, but because they are PEOPLE. I doubt the movies expects you to shed tears over their death, but they are supposed to help you realize that human lives are in fact on the line, and some tough choices will have to be made moving forward. This isn't a movie about drama between characters; this is a movie about a group of co-workers trying to deal with an unprecedented situation. I feel like you watched this movie expecting to see a different movie, and you're disappointed it wasn't that. Them not causing the situation also isn't unique. The characters in Alien also didn't cause the situation they are in; the higher ups at Weyland Yutani did. Or going further down that line, whoever the alien craft belonged to did. The crew are only a victim of circumstance. Not that it matters, because them not being responsible for the threat does not in any way diminish that threat. So the argument is moot regardless. As for the threat of walking outside the station? Even if you're unaware of the dangers of walking at the bottom of the ocean in a pressurized suit, you'll find out the moment they exit the station, when one of the characters falls victim to it. But even ignoring that threat, there's the limited oxygen, the collapsing station, and soon we come face to face with the creatures lurking outside as well. I'd say the movie does a good job with these. Investigating the distress signal adds nothing to the plot, except for introducing the monsters, and showing us what they may look like. You know, totally unimportant information. Kind of like how the facehugger dissection scene in Alien adds nothing interesting to the plot. But if you're gonna complain about that, you must have a huge issue with the Space Jokey scene in Alien. And since when does having multiple of the terrifying, murderous creatures makes them less scary? If anything, finding out that there's not only one but multiple of the creature you struggled to defeat and killed several of your crew-mates, would make the scenario even more terrifying. Also, how are they not in the epicenter of the incident, especially considering the climax of the movie? That one's just flat out nonsense. Did you just call a multiple hundred meter tall creature a "slightly bigger monster"? Then again, this comes after you comparing the movie's monsters to five year-olds. The reason to save her friends as well as the rest of humanity is never established? Nothing to indicate that it's a threat? Are you fucking kidding me? Okay, fuck it. I'm done. Yes, long comment. I know.

[@alphamineron]

This comment is much better and unbiased than this entire video essays. Honestly, this is just a clickbait crappy video essay.

[@Jarvernors]

@@alphamineron Thanks, man. I appreciate it. There's so much more wrong with this video, you could honestly dissect it for hours, but there's only so much one can pack into a youtube comment.

[@kikasse220]

Ye filmento has lost his way...

[@luster5497]

Long comment is a understatement....

[@not_brundle1742]

@@luster5497 Maybe, but at least it wasn't a clickbait video that focused on irrelevance, taking minutes I'll never get back.

[@mrmxyzptlk521]

How to fail at making an Alien rip-off: Step 1. Cast Kristen "Block of Wood" Stewart as Ellen "MF'ing" Ripley. Step 2. ????? Step 3. Flop!!

[@tnertsuntan8944]

I came to the comments just to say "#1 Cast Kristen Stewart" but you beat me to it! But really after step 1, the rest of the story really does write itself. She's so horrible just seeing her face makes me angry!

[@xuan.1611]

Step 4. Blame audiences

[@VertigoCrime]

wasn't even because of Kristen Stewart. I blame the movie going into development hell and being put on hold for a few years. The movie itself was really fucking good.

[@rhabdob3895]

How to fail at alien? Prometheus, that’s how.

[@nollyfkennedy]

Prometheus is more than just about Alien. (It's not about the xenomorph)

[@TheThirdEnergy]

@@nollyfkennedy i agree prometheus had some great ideas, i loved it but the sequel ruined it unfortunately and we will never see a proper conclusion to the first

[@gadio16]

@@TheThirdEnergy yeah sadly but only because so many people disliked it so they made an alien movie again. I was so looking forward for prometheus 2.

[@TheHitman644]

@@gadio16 Alien: Covenant is Promethues 2

[@gadio16]

@@TheHitman644 well yes but actually no.

[@Sodamanonzo]

It’s one of the better movies I’ve seen. Unfortunately it didn’t make enough money.

[@ethancowan3431]

I actually really like this movie. IMO it actually captured underwater horror that’s not just about sharks. And I love how they just get thrown into the action. That might be a negative for some but for me it was a pleasant surprise.

[@kcspice]

I would contest that Cloverfield did a good job having characters not be part of the inciting event, but having to deal with the danger

[@jackrogers5712]

Yes, because at the very least we get to know who the characters are as people before all hell breaks loose. We know legitimately nothing about these characters before they're fighting for their lives.

[@kcspice]

@@jackrogers5712 good point! It takes effort, but not impossible.

[@Flourikum]

@@jackrogers5712 ah yes where idiots go across half the city to save a dudes ex because thats the big brain play here while godzilla and its lice are destroying the city XD

[@wurstbee]

another example would be john carpenters The Thing

[@fenris8179]

Like the world minus Cheena lately?

[@88Tex]

I really enjoyed the movie. I have to disagree I’m no Kristen Stewart fan but she did a good job and it was a fun movie

[@Itsacamlife]

I also agree with you! Kristen did pretty good job !

[@BrunoMacedoPhotos]

Hi agree. I hate her as a person and not a fan as an actress but she did a good job and the movie is quite enjoyable.

[@adszadsz2737]

@@BrunoMacedoPhotos you dont have to hate her because some people does. she is actually so kind person and very good actress. im so upset for her she really dont deserve this hate

[@711ramen3]

Yeah she did a good performance. Also saw that sparkly vampire dude in a movie called Rover, he did a great job. Acting is work, sometimes you get a shit gig.

[@jemandjemand2362]

she was good. but she was just good, because she acted better than the shitty script was. so she wasnt good overall

[@proximo3257]

The most unrealistic thing I saw in that film: when she goes barefoot in the general purpose bathroom. Shower shoes are standard issue, and only the grossest individuals go into the shower without them on 100% of the time.

[@JGSuttonJr]

In Hollywood, characters taste unknown fluids so that they can identify them.

[@EGRJ]

@@JGSuttonJr That's actually something doctors do. Or used to.

[@joshuagraham5750]

EGRJ yeah, in ancient greece

[@marionamewontwork2681]

Canada, Lindsay The school (flemming) taught the people in heavy machinery to taste fluids to help ID them, I kid you not. Thats what They told me anyways I was there for forestry.

[@JohnDoe-uq9ni]

@@JGSuttonJr it is really common i seen people taste frac water to see if there was acid or not

[@flashthompson1085]

I really enjoyed this movie and the concept. I truely believe that a better score or composer could've helped with building tension.

[@juniorsanctus]

Main Question about this movie: How did Kristen Stewart uncoloured her hair in the bottom of the ocean?

She didn't. She did it on the surface before going down.

[@juniorsanctus]

@ but it is too short and in the movie she didn't seems to be a newcommer there

[@wrath2501]

Underwater is a sad rip off of Alien. Leviathan: Am I a joke to you?

[@sweetcinnamonpnchkin]

Leviathan was fun

[@AliXioN96]

Leviathan is not a rip off of Alien, Is a rip off of The Thing.

[@jonseyjones321]

The main things that stood out to me was: Jumpcut from Noroah getting her eyes checked, to, apparently, finding more people in a control room was a bit weird. "Has anyone ever walked out there before?" "No." Then how did the mining rig even get built? When did Norah get the rabbit? Emily, apparently, loves Smith? Not really set up, just randomly mumbles it.

[@danpenia219]

They can build it with mini submarines or submarine drones. Ask james cameron

[@PongoXBongo]

@@danpenia219/videos And they could do it in huge chunks too. Unlike taking a ton of energy to lob ISS bits up into orbit, you can just push rig bits over the side of the ship and let gravity do the work.

[@saintricardo8746]

What i like in this film is that the cast didn't fight with each other. Not unnecessary love triangle of romance, no one betraying the group, just workers who want to survive that hellhole. Everybody was really nice and supportive, especially to Emily

[@tdylan]

To me this movie felt as though it was trying to be too much. Imagine if we had a movie like gravity where characters were struggling to escape a decaying structure and keep meeting obstacles. Then, they find out that while they're doing this they're also being stalked by a xenomorph. Only, it's not clear that they're being "stalked." Sometimes they are, and then other times they're out in the open, but the xenomorph stays on the periphery, for some reason, even though it can completely outmaneuver them. Then it leaves the survivors alone. Then we learn there are actually several xenomorphs, but only one of them wakes up to attack. That one is killed via a small underwater explosion, but the others are still slow to wake up even though the explosion happened right next to them. Then they're slow to attack a helpless heroine. They don't attack her at all, but swim away to rejoin with a kaiju for some reason. Oh yeah, there's also a kaiju in the movie now. The survivors make it to the pods and some of them begin to escape. The xenomorphs now chase after the pods, when those same xenomorphs chose to not attack our helpless heroine on the ocean floor not long before. "Gravity," becomes "Alien" (but poorly). Then it becomes "Predator 2" (in that you spend the movie thinking there may be only one, and then at the end find out there are several, but they don't attack the helpless protagonist. Except in Predator 2, it made sense). Then it becomes "Godzilla," except godzilla is introduced and then killed with no build up, setup, or payoff.

[@zipzzo]

Ah, but this just shows you don't really understand the movie... Cthulhu was most definitely not killed lol.

[@tdylan]

@@zipzzo Why are people so quick to try to shoehorn that thing into being "Cthulhu" when it's far closer to being a mere "kraken?"

[@zipzzo]

@@tdylan because the director specifically said it was Cthulhu, which to me was pretty good enough. There are also some well hidden Lovecraft references if you look. There is literally no gray area here, the director of the movie definitively stated so. Also the Kraken is not typically known for having a humanoid-like upper torso with two arms/hands, which is very clearly depicted in the final scene that it tries to escape the blast zone..but guess who is...Cthulhu.

[@tdylan]

@@zipzzo The director can say it, and the movie can have references, that's doesn't make it so. When I say "Kraken," I'm not referring to its physically appearance. I mean that it behaves more like a simple "creature of the deep, acting on instinct" than it does "creature of malice and horror. Think of it like someone telling you that the lead vampire from the movie "Underworld" is "clearly Dracula." Choosing UNDERWorld since we're talking about UNDERWater. To you, that thing behaved like an near omnipotent cosmic entity of horror, evil, and madness? Norah practically taunted it at the end saying "You've got 60 seconds," with a near smile on her face. We see the behemoth appearing to flee in fear before getting caught in the explosion. That's not Cthulhu.

[@zipzzo]

@@tdylan it is whatever the creator says it is. Just because it doesn't fit your personal depiction of what Cthulhu should be doesn't mean it isn't. If the director says "we made this movie and that's Cthulhu", then it's cthulhu. They could have made him a kaiju-sized princess fairy, and while it wouldn't have been respectful of the source material, it STILL would be their version of Cthulhu for this piece of work. Cthulhu is fictional, he is whatever the writer wants him to be. Personally I think this "version" of Cthulhu came pretty close to seeming genuine. Everything about how you think Cthulhu would act or should act, look or should look, is irrelevant.

[@MasterChakra7]

You mean to tell me a movie starring Kristen Stewart as the main protagonist is somehow... a failure ? *shocked Pikachu face*

[@mish375]

For a movie failure: Step 1 is casting Kristen Stewart who can't act.

[@mish375]

@Another Faceless Name Your guess is as good as mine why she's still around. She has a history of being an opportunist though. That might be the only explanation.

[@Phantom8941]

@@mish375 Well she's been known to fuck directors, so maybe that has something to do with it.

[@samstudley5519]

I feel like people dealing with the consequences of other people’s actions could be a very interesting idea for a movie

[@ShamblesMD]

Yeah The Mist was pretty good.

[@kyo0grain]

I mean, who needs a movie when it's happening right now in the real world

[@Max-fr6ny]

Check out Shin Gojira.

[@psteeg3551]

Of course it's an interesting idea. What matters is the execution

[@rustyshackleford3160]

Uhhh it's called Alien. A corporation compels them to investigate the Alien.

[@clairetellkamp6253]

What the fuck do you MEAN it's not established WHY she would kill the monster? First of all, she didn't stay behind TO KILL it, she stayed behind because there were no more working escape pods. She pushed Emily onto the last one and was going to stay behind to fix the other one if she could, or die if she couldn't. THEN she saw that the monsters were swimming up to kill the pods, and she realized that it was all pointless. There was no point in fixing the pod and launching herself if the monsters would kill her before she reached the surface. Instead, she sacrificed herself to save her friends, so that they would have a chance. AND this is heightened by the fact that Smith and Emily are the only two people that actually made it to the surface. If you'd actually paid the fuck attention while watching the movie, you would have noticed that the Captain sent up 22 people in the beginning. The distress call was from 1 of those pods, and he is distraught at the fact that he failed. Some of those people that he saved died. Something destroyed the pods on their way to the surface. And at the end of the movie, we get told that only 2 people survived this disaster, them being Emily and Smith. So ALL TWENTY-TWO PEOPLE that the Captain sent to the surface died. They were all captured and murdered. Did you even fucking watch the movie?

[@leadsin99er]

Imagine Underwater's ending led into the opening of Cloverfield in NY City. And it was revealed to be A prequel instead of The Paradox debacle. Wouldn't that be cool?

[@Niceone11202011]

Would make sense because TJ miller is in both movies.

[@toxicsugarart2103]

Now that I can get behind

[@waypoint732]

Bro you just expanded the horizons to another level

[@DM-ti9ne]

Everything this actress is in seems to fail, I kinda feel sorry for her career, but oh well... Edit: I just said that every movie that i have seen her in has been bad, I feel bad about her acting, not about her, i couldn't give less of a fuck for her personally, if you misunderstood it's ok, I really didn't give much of an explanation of what i was meaning tbh

[@Batcow7735]

Yeah, like I think she's genuinely a decent actress but she gets really bad roles because all the woke SJWs only want to work with LGBTQ people on woke projects.

[@MumRah357]

Dude, she is a millionaire thanks to the Twilight franchise, so she just chooses whatever projects she's interested in. People who think she is bad, haven't watched the lower budget/indie project she has starred in, like Personal Shopper, Adventureland, Still Alice, Clouds of Sils Maria, and only judge her by the blockbusters. It's a job man, just that.

[@Tkokat]

@@Batcow7735 She's a horrible actress

[@Oscar-j6b]

@@Batcow7735 like which one? I an sorry, but I have seen her be in many bad movies, but people go like "those movies are bad because LGBTQ agenda bullshit" and I am not seeing it. It is like a cultural thing in this movies that I am too non american to understand?

[@just-trying-my-best-everyday]

@@MumRah357 I've never agreed with anyone so much.

[@JoeSyxpack]

My first thought seeing Kristen Stewart: "Is this a Tank Girl remake?"

[@dudebroski9460]

Underwater 8 mile. Tank girl was actually sexy

[@nolanolivier6791]

Ohhhh God! Don't remind me that Stewart wants to fuck with that classic...

[@Parasiteve]

that pulp fiction meme gets me everytime because its perfect

[@testaccount4191]

A structural failure in an underwater station like that would be near instant and totally lethal to anyone not behind a pressurized door

[@MultiPolarWorldCo-op]

Yeah and in real life there would be no giant sea monster...its a movie.

[@testaccount4191]

@@MultiPolarWorldCo-op Yeah and the abyss had underwater aliens, and still where capable of conveying the hostile nature of the environment.