Film Theory: Is Dory a LIAR? (Finding Dory) - pt. 2

[@dyanpierce]

Did anyone catch that she said it runs in her family...how would she remember that...but not her family in general...?

[@hotfox5842]

She doesn’t know how amnesia works she is a fish

[@saviojadav1397]

Well if her family told her a lot . Then she ,at know it

[@russiancheems2275]

remember? She can remember a general thing, but not the specifics.

[@lightdreaming5286]

Fake memories? Perhaps Dory tricked herself into believing that the issue runs in the family.

[@kkTeaz]

@@lightdreaming5286 I mean, amnesia doesn't *genetic* so...

[@adelebham205]

I think dory’s mom and dad taught her that if she is in a situation that was bad she needs to act helpless so that she can survive

[@dorianstrempler4613]

...

[@dorianstrempler4613]

Holy crap...

[@thanhnhanghiem1165]

But wouldn't she forget that lesson?

[@Wealiko10]

And now I have helpless from Hamilton stuck in my head...

[@lanieperez3907]

@@Wealiko10 same

[@pbjqueen1836]

Dory: 'My short-term memory loss runs in the family." ...I thought she didn't *remember* her family...

[@gracet.7987]

She did in finding dorie, memorize her condition with her parents, when she asks if there is something wrong with her, her parents said nothing was wrong. She probably saw that as genetic just by her sweet parents explanation.

[@warahelbro]

Didn’t she say after that sentence “ atleast I think it does “

[@jgillprodd]

PB & J Queen underrated comment! Great point

[@overlordrunt6326]

And she shouldn't remember that it runs in the family Which it doesn't

[@lemonxtract]

But if she supposedly had Anterograde Amnesia and that was an old memory, she could’ve remembered that.

[@phoenixwithahalfofdragon936]

Pixar: Makes an event in a movie slightly innacurate Matpat: *THEORIZING INTESIFIES*

[@gabbylozuna5839]

If I ever have a lawyer I want it to be MatPat

[@yelanism]

Bubble Gum Gamer Same

[@raspberrymoon3643]

yup

[@applesweet55]

Bubble Gum Gamer Same!

[@valonarious5399]

Bubble Gum Gamer He probably has the best strategy when doing theories, I don't think he'll have trouble in a criminal case.

[@abner2961]

Yes and his humor would make the argument more entertaining

[@rishitlikesanime2091]

50% matpat proving dory is faking 50% matpat teaching how to accurately fake amnesia

[@deenitchie6785]

Rishit's Dazz 😂

[@ganondorfchampin]

The only thing MatPat proved is he has no idea what short-term memory is.

[@diamondgamer7149]

lol

[@esaiasthetraveler6934]

Lol

[@refreshrage4944]

This is coming from someone with short term memory loss now now long term memory’s from my childhood I could remember but if you gave me a number let’s say 12345 and told Me to remember that and then asked me 5 mins later I would have forgot that number unless I repeat the same thing over and over again and it sometimes makes it harder for someone with short term memory loss in retail because a customer may ask for something so you as the person with a short term memory loss have to remember what that person wanted so when I worked in retail I had to repeat it back to myself and just keep saying over again

[@evlovesbooks]

Matpat you would remember to say welcome to film theory. It's basically procedural memory by now.

[@KawaiiRuby7]

However he forgot the title of this video which is something he likely came up with over around 3 days. Therefore you are invalid.

[@Yasokiii]

@@KawaiiRuby7 um no

[@KawaiiRuby7]

@@Yasokiii Go ahead and explain why, he may have stopped on theory but that was his train of thought because he was preoccupied with trying to remember

[@jmencip]

he has said the phrase “welcome to film theory” for quite a few years by now making procedural memory. He might not know why he says it but he still knows to say it. Your example of him forgetting the title of the video is an example of declarative memory which applies to specific things. The name of the video is specific and somewhat unique. While mat saying a phrase he said dozens of times is procedural memory.

[@KawaiiRuby7]

Jmencip ! Thanks for explaining

[@fwarszawski9861]

Matthew has this uncanny ability to make everything absolutely terrifying. I’m scared Dory’s about to break into my house and end me. Thanks, Matpat

[@venomfan2020]

11:07 Buzz-Saw Shark to your left! Instant Nightmares at No Additional Cost! And it Existed at One Point in Time! AND THE SAW DID BUZZ(albeit very quite slowly)!

[@summermelody7942]

That wouldn't be possible because Dory is a fish. A fictional fish character in an animated movie is still a fish

[@Desperateforanewfandom]

​@Night Shadow Hey, there's this really cool thing that exists. I don't know if you've heard about it it's called a *JOKE*

[@Lollielover16]

Same but I feel like it’s going to be in my toliet and start scratching my butthole 😂😂😂 like a cat 🐈 when you pet it

[@kby777]

i know right .i even have to constantly check if the door is closed

[@Uncfrom63rd]

Now I know how to fake amnesia correctly ; )

[@andreavasquez4355]

Black Ronin that’s true

[@keyring5080]

I was about to write something, but I forgot

[@vilkristproductions6772]

But will u remember it

[@popecrusher]

I'm gonna use this when my relatives come over lol

[@darkgohan6760]

Hehehehe

[@snowcold5932]

Her attitude is indeed very fishy

[@SSMp315]

Hehe

[@azazeltheundyingdamienkali5700]

YEAAAAAAAH!

[@dariendelgado685]

ha ha

[@dr.tacophd1239]

Clam up with your salty jokes.

[@snowcold5932]

+Dr.TacoPHD123 *seas and waves at the haters*

[@sharon2c554]

I have a theory: *Disney didn't do their research.*

[@mylittlebrony2130]

That's not a theory that's a fact my man

[@kstormgeistgem461]

though more likely, Ellen didn't. i'm guessing, if this was anything like a lot of their other movies, they just let ellen (the voice actor) run her mouth, grabbed half of the nonsense and drew the fish around that. they did that with a lot of the genie in aladdin & Robin Williams. he did a lot of improv, they grabbed the lines and bits they liked, handed it off to the animators and said, "here, your turn."

[@lorelaigilmoreirl]

Mood but it was pixar disney always does their research

[@mylittlebrony2130]

@@kstormgeistgem461 makes sense

[@Cloud-he4yh]

i think they probably did,since everything from part 1 checks out, but did a small slip up when they added the fact that she remembers a boat. just a tiiiiiiiiiny slip up, there.

[@bandagewastingmachine386]

You forgot another thing (spoiler): In finding Dory when she meets her parents again they remember her name, and she knows they're her parents. they all recognize each other the moment they meet and therefore it's obvious it doesn't run in the family. No way the parents would even remember they had a kid after that many years, let alone her name.

[@sunflower8227]

maybe dory's grandparents have it? maybe it jumps a generation? she could've made up that fact? idk

[@joeschmo276]

If I’m correct this video was made before Finding Dory

[@bandagewastingmachine386]

@@joeschmo276 if it was it's just more proof

[@joeschmo276]

Fair, maybe if we’re lucky he’ll make another video

[@liampbjray5562]

he already proved that she's lying about it running in the family

[@Codyfirehead]

Could Dory really fake a disorder through her whole childhood, as seen in "Finding Dory"? I need answers.

[@elkyuna8530]

Lincoln Eichstadt - it could be munchausen by proxy

[@princess_mj4396]

yes me and my friend used to fake amnesia after head injuries all the time as kids and it worked however we usually convincingly dropped it. but we did keep up several ling term things like how my friend pretends to be partially blind for a couple years and even doctors believed her. we did things like this lots and I'll give you an example of how dory could do it for lol. when u fake a leg injury you have to fake a lump for quite a while you start off by having to make sure you do it but after a while it becomes so easy you do it when no ones around. so yes she could

[@Codyfirehead]

@@princess_mj4396 But she faked it in dire and dangerous situations! Would you do that?

[@bigbomboblast1377]

It makes no sense how she could have amnesia that young anyways. Unless she got hit in the head hard or couldn't lay off the wine. She says its hereditary but that is impossible apparently.

[@stickynote-slumber]

When she was, say... 2, she didn’t know anything about amnesia. She didn’t know it was possible! She didn’t even know that it existed. Unless she actually had it. But we can’t tell.

[@tori2046]

Matt: Welcome to Film- wait, what was I saying again? See, if I had anterograde amnesia, I wouldn't remember what I was saying. Me: Oh yeah? If I remember correctly, that phrase is something you've been saying for the past few years and should therefore fall under procedural memory.

[@avasuikatodoroki7061]

True

[@scribbler_crowe]

*h a h*

[@ascoutly1593]

Yeees

[@Orthodoxdesignco]

Precisely what I thought

[@ascoutly1593]

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[@chris1549]

Disney pixar: doesn't do their research properly. Matpat: DORI DOESN'T HAVE AMNESIA-

[@auronnyagangopadhyay7104]

Lol carp

[@Zigster22]

So true

[@thisrandomguywhodoesstuff]

I have a theory, Chris here has amnesia and can't remember how to spell a 4 letter name.

[@chris1549]

@@thisrandomguywhodoesstuff ha haha

[@louisatrow4933]

This would be funny if it didnt have a full stop at the end-

[@tatoh596]

So, I have something to add; I have memory problems due to traumatic brain injuries. Something I've noticed is that everyone is focusing on things she SHOULD remember or SHOULD NOT remember, when in reality brains are incredibly complex with different types of injuries dictating what kinds of memory issues you have. Having issues with memory like Dory does is a symptom of PCS, or Post Concussive Syndrome. When someone experiences a traumatic injury to the head, this usually results in a concussion. Many people recover completely from concussions, and have little to no side effects from them. PCS develops when the brain retains some symptoms of a concussion, e.g. memory problems, but Finding Nemo makes Dory's amnesia very cut and dry. She can't remember things that happen, and Matpat's assertion of procedural memory is spot on. Something I wanted to add is that memories can be recalled through triggers. I walk to the store, and see someone drop a watermelon. I take in the information, then forget it. Later, someone mentions that they had watermelon as a snack. I remember seeing a watermelon being dropped at the store. Then I forget that I remembered it. As long as my brain makes the connection that someone mentioning a watermelon brings up that memory, I'll continue to forget and remember that person dropping a watermelon at the store until it goes into my long term. That's what I think happened with Dory and the boat. She saw it, forgot it, and then someone mentioning the boat triggered an abrupt recall. (When your brain goes 'oh look a memory you didn't ask for' and you think about it out of nowhere.) To the people saying 'shouldn't she have forgotten that her amnesia runs in the family, if she can't remember her family in general?' Forgetting the injury that caused the trauma is really common. I personally can't remember any of mine. Sometimes the brain does this as a coping mechanism. If her way of coping was to believe that her amnesia was hereditary, instead of due to an injury, that's normal. Since she repeats that, it goes with procedural memory. She may not remember her family if she got the injury when she was young, because long term memory in ANYONE is faulty after a certain age. It's like how you know you've met a relative when you were younger, but can't say a thing about them. This turned into an essay so I know anyone who comments didn't read the whole thing, which is honestly fine. I just wanted to stake my claims.

[@brocoverbeygaming4714]

I read the whole thing, and now I want to tape down Matthew and talk about a cartoon fish that really DOES have amnesia and she's not faking it because of the info you put, But what if the parents are the ones who convinced her to move on from that injerey, what if they caused it and don't want her to know and thats why they tell her to not go to the reef or whatever, But hey, THATS JUST A THEORY

[@theresejules8556]

That’s a lot a words

[@T0B3573R]

I agree, I also have memory problems, although it is not anywhere near the severity of Dory’s, (maybe), and some of the points in the theory are true, but also Dory could still have memory issues on top of all of this. What Matpat forgets is that this disability, in real life, isn’t a 100% thing for everyone afflicted. Sometimes, symptoms can disappear and reappear randomly for different people. There are coping skills and other things that they can do to remember. Dory can still occasionally recall thing’s without forgetting even if it is in her short term memory. Having memory problems doesn’t always mean that in every scenario it will play out the same.

[@Aubsydinklegirl]

Guys, what if Dory's parents manipulated her thinking at a young age, telling her she had short term memory loss? If this was the case, she would not know what "true" short term memory loss was, but her parents would reinforce traits that would make her dependent on them. Even in Finding Dory her mother and father are crying saying, will she be okay? Which we assume in the movie is just worried parents hoping their child with memory loss will properly enter into society, but it could be parent who have deluded their child into being less than they are. This has happened in some cases with children, loving parents with good intentions that isolate their baby or keep their kids from feeling "normal". Kids are super impressionable

[@s1lvrnugget573]

YEAH HER MOTHER COULD BE MANIPULATING HER THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER OR LESS RUDE THEORY

[@gracewawrzynaik1084]

I thought that too after I saw Mat Pats first video.

[@sugarbunni7207]

Oobel Supply A

[@slateoffate9812]

Oobel Supply I don't understand why her parents would do that? Why would they think that's a good decision?

[@s1lvrnugget573]

to keep her safe

[@rileyy31]

This theory: exists Finding dory: comes out Mat pat: ah shit, here we go again

[@ITSMELUKAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA]

It’s true tho

[@maileemorales3966]

Movie:exists Film theory and cinema sin: my time has come

[@coconutgaming4512]

Hey, can you change your comment by editing it to maybe bleeping it out

[@rileyy31]

@@coconutgaming4512 no

[@speedwaggonsama2401]

@@coconutgaming4512 why do u want it to be censored?

[@r.t.giddson9830]

Thanks for telling me how to fake amnesia convincingly

[@gryph0n346]

Exactly my thoughts. Lol

[@feyefall4855]

Ditto

[@Martypotty]

Gg, u got 39 likes on a comment within 2 hours.. O_o

[@ber2704]

+Daniel Potter (Washington4) 83

[@MiguelPerez-jz9is]

+Tone Deaf Tachanka Gaming Why?

[@Mr_Rathalos]

Imagine how Disney and Pixar feel about this. XD "Dear gosh, they've found out!"

[@mckaylagould997]

Why is it that a fish can remember more than me, I can't even remember what I ate like 3 hours ago.

[@PlatonicPluto]

I ate cereal :P a second ago ;-;

[@thelonelyshivy5370]

As soon as I read your comment I tried to recall, what I ate like 40 minutes ago and can't remember LOL

[@tghcjxmamamakkakaffhhdhfhs9903]

I can’t even remember wat my mum says in a convo l min later

[@tghcjxmamamakkakaffhhdhfhs9903]

Or five seconds

[@frogbysachs7559]

You ate a SANDWICH!! Was I right?

[@moose-music]

If I ever need a lawyer, I want Matthew Patrick to be it.

[@nataliedavis8949]

Jess Llama me to

[@coolfrog8777]

Well he knows what to do if KZbin fails XD

[@bestduelistever2374]

Just remember that he’ll argue against you a crap ton at first.

[@leantutorials]

omg that would be the best

[@vanetiawellington1302]

Jess Llama Yes. Me too

[@leahandkassidy127]

matpat teaches me more about science than school ever did

[@Sad_Beetles]

Leah and Kassidy he teaches it in a fun way XD school isn't fun

[@sylphoia]

Leah and Kassidy IKR

[@mayadelaneys]

Then you need to pay more attention. Jeez.

[@tomasarojas5790]

so true

[@darkprince5202]

Maya S be quite Don't be like dat

[@latreclays4246]

1:31 idk about you but the edited dory face is absolutely terrifying.

[@mintani19]

I agree

[@wyattevans3065]

Every time I hear the beginning of one of these episodes I'm like "there's no way this ones true" then the video starts and...

[@surgeonoffate4078]

Same haha

[@trashy.koneko7217]

Same

[@anonymousshadow1099]

Yep, same here lol

[@PandaManJB]

This one is the first one where I just don't buy it.

[@PandaManJB]

Anime Gamer What?

[@CeruCarmine]

What if it isn't brain damage based amnesia? Several mental disorders, such as ptsd, multiple personality disorder, and dissociative disorders can have memory loss as a symptom. This could explain why her memory loss isn't strictly short term or long term, because it's based on anxiety and dissociation.

[@ResidentMilf]

I have medication-induced memory loss, and it's sort of short term memory loss, but also sort of not. My problem isn't storage, it's recall. The memory is in there, it's bringing it to the surface that's the problem, and the newer the memory is the harder it gets. I often will struggle to remember a single word in a sentence, or fail to remember a specific detail such as who bought me a gift (even though I remember that it was a gift) or what I had for lunch yesterday. My procedural memory is extremely good, and there are several things I can do (sometimes very well) that when asked to recount the steps, I have to actually picture myself doing it in my head in order to be able to do so, if I can at all. If I am interrupted while telling a story, I have to be reminded of what point in the story I was. My symptoms are actually extremely similar to Dory's. Like the identifying sea creatures bit. When the school of fish are doing impressions, the shape may not be enough by itself to trigger the correct word in my brain, but other identifying factors might be just what I need. Maybe the shape combined with large teeth and gills could pull the word "shark" from my brain when the shape alone failed. And I frequently struggle with answers because it's not a case of "file not found" like it would be with retrograde, it's a little more like "enter password." A word being on the tip of my tongue is a frustratingly common occurrence, as I try to pull the word up from my uncooperative brain.

[@marysworld9760]

Ptsd can cause memory loss every seconds?

[@-pixela-277]

Chill out dude you've studied too much for your science test.

[@allysonb210]

I have memory loss from epilepsy

[@ooftygaming8451]

Dory Specifically Says She Has Short Term Memory Not Anything Else.

[@garrisonschrag5093]

Wow that was deep! I never new Dory was so fishy! I can really sea were MatPat is coming from though!

[@edgarsantacruz373]

those puns accidental?

[@overlookgamer1567]

+Edgar Santacruz probably not

[@antisepticeye3760]

lol XD

[@memyselfandi9278]

+Edgar Santacruz no the puns are completely meant.

[@maycee4929]

+Thekiller 1554 hi

[@Two_T0asted]

Technically, MatPat WOULD remember the phrase "Hello Internet and welcome to film theory" because he says it every episode and it's his catchphrase [Declarative memory]

[@x-90]

For running in family part maybe Dory made up the story because she forgot

[@wildpaulsgal]

true

[@Cobra658]

Also maybe she did see a boat before but not that particular boat.

[@merrowley]

@@Cobra658 and with the trying really hard to answer thigns she seems very eager to try and please or help others so of course she would try really hard to remember even if she cant

[@omnnhg6318]

more like swimming in the family

[@loveheart1434]

@@Cobra658 But that doesn't make sense, why would she remember to say "Oh I saw a boat" If she saw a boat?

[@adoramae5436]

What if Dory's amnesia is Munchausen by Proxy? Which is when a person thinks they're sick because they have been convinced by someone else that they are. In Finding Dory, Dory's parents are practically paranoid about Dory forgetting things so easily that they hover over her. What if Dory hit her head when she was very young and forgot something temporarily, but her parents still treated her as if she was sick, convincing her young mind that she IS sick. The flashes of memories of her parents wouldn't happen if she actually had amnesia, but if she had repressed memories from the traumatic experience of being separated from her parents that would reinforce her "amnesia" but also allow the possibility of memories resurfacing so she goes looking for her parents in the second movie. ALSO Dory's parents actually told her that if anyone asks, to tell them that she has short term memory loss. Just a thought. Ps: if she did repress memories of losing her parents, it is possible that the only she remembered from her past is her parents telling her to say "my name is Dory and I have short term memory loss" so for all she knows she actually DOES have short term memory loss.

[@denisseg9103]

Adora Mae my hero

[@nephilim4683]

This makes a lot of sense, good analysis

[@QueenShireen]

I like this idea

[@frankcastleisdead7473]

Adora Mae, 🤔🤯

[@otterpopgames7]

Wow good theory i was just having my own theory about something else with somebody else in the replies (prob wont get seen so i am uploading it as an actual comment) but yeah that could be true

[@BudPixels]

(in court) Guy: why does he carry around a stand like that when he walks around...its wierd Jury: it's just a thing he does...

[@urlocalspiderwebzspider8743]

Matpat: -talking about severe brain trauma - Cartoon matpat: *getting smacked in the head with a baseball basketball,soccerball, and football*

[@reeeshhuu]

You are way to good at this become a lawyer

[@Ars3n0]

Or a detective

[@ElysiumStudios_]

Disney: *I OBJECT!*

[@dawsonfleeger4664]

Poison Vulture he probably makes more money from videos then if he were a lawyer

[@yuhgetittoit9269]

Too*

[@indikawijebahuwickramaratn7280]

I'd hire him as a PI

[@juno2871]

Mat Pat, do we *really* need to bully “disabled” fish? *yes, yes we do*

[@some0ne46]

@Kaleela Edwards what winnie the pooh is a girl

[@some0ne46]

@Kaleela Edwards but he was a girl in real life but in the movies he was a Boy right?

[@some0ne46]

@Kaleela Edwards yeah i Just searched it up 😐

[@charliewalker9148]

@Kaleela Edwards Dory or Ellen DeGeneres ?

[@Cynemi.star.]

@Kaleela Edwards "But its just a theory"

[@miadolensek6402]

*Matt pat*: tries to explain why amnesia cant be passed down in your family *Meanwhile me*: uhhh if she has amnesia, how can she remember what the cause of her amnesia is? --__--

[@LavaSherbert]

Mia Lipovšek She says she thinks that is the case

[@lengthorwidth]

She guessed?

[@Dcoig]

This is actually one of those theories that give me actual (kinda) useful knowledge I had fun learning the complete story of a man with amnesia on a theory video about a fish

[@keasstudio9822]

Same! :D

[@maxwithani6179]

In finding Dory, they say that Dory is a blue tang

[@leocruz6190]

Hm(sarcasm) NO REALLY!😑

[@roguemarquette3301]

Yep I noticed that too.

[@jacintadonald5058]

MatPat already covered that lol

[@notklouds-3177]

1:55

[@TheTrueTerrydactyl]

Its almost like this was made before Finding Dory was released

[@catboyxavier]

You would remember having to say "Welcome To Film Theory" because you say it every video

[@cl0udnel]

I was thinking that

[@HelyoG]

This is the part 2

[@catboyxavier]

@@HelyoG I know I've seen both parts 5 times

[@HelyoG]

@@catboyxavier Good to know that you are still alive

[@ariacoffee5263]

One out of 3 videos because he also has game and food theory

[@gojogaming2379]

Disney probably saw this then made the second movie

[@Mellun-P]

uhh the only reason matpat even made this is BECAUSE the second movie came out. this video was released literally 3 days before the second movie came out

[@penis42069]

Wtf

[@PlatonicPluto]

DAY-JA-VU I think...

[@00Raven00]

@@Mellun-P.. It's a joke..

[@RickyIsABoT2]

Yeet

[@adam6620]

She does remember that an octopus has 3 hearts, but until she meets Hank in Finding Nemo, she connects the dots about where she learned that fact. Same with Bailey’s echolocation. Also, she couldn’t remember the address, she was sad that Marlin was abandoning her. Sometimes even my son does that. Same with her first sad breakdown moment.

[@JustSoji]

You do realize that you've taught over 2 million people how to properly fake their amnesia? You've provided us with a dangerous tool Matthew

[@potatoesmashymash5836]

Something people could have easily looked up on Google....

[@Silvergrooves42]

Who is matthew?

[@captaincooties2586]

IDK, who is matthew, (that was sacrcasim)

[@gabe1416]

+Dalek Caan amnesia, I'm guessing?

[@aeg1r281]

+Sharkboy 9216 hey I've seen amnesia!

[@athenaaaaq]

Matpat teaches me more about science then my school teachers ever did

[@owlgod858]

Dragon_ Fruit•-• I know right

[@ohno382]

Dragon_ Fruit•-• ikr

[@kivisimbatha7802]

SAME FAM, SAME

[@hindahmed5861]

MAT PAT BE MY AFTER SCHOOL TUTOR

[@RAWRsynchro]

Dragon_ Fruit•-• than*** you also need a better English teacher LOL

[@8orange]

Haha "Finding Dory.....in the gutter" was hilarious

[@AnimationAirlines]

3:19 is funny

[@amanmaldives9575]

EmilyIsFantastic21 i think Finding Dory In the Beer Bottle

[@missycrabb4773]

EmilyIsFantastic21 ii

[@blobpatt3008]

That actually is funny.

[@davidrojas5191]

That's why you shouldn't trust strangers

[@SandhiniRay]

DORY "I have short term memory loss." ME How would you remember you had short term memory loss

[@idekanymore2735]

Wait... if dory says *“I have short term memory loss I forget things almost instantly it runs in my family”* Wouldn’t she... not *remember* that?…

[@Anne-hx3qx]

Correction. “I survive by lying about an illness, it runs in my family” fits way better. But if she did suffer from it then it would be procedural memory since we’ve seen her say that to every fish she talks to, seen in her backstory when she was a lost child sooooo she could have a chance of remembering that phrase

[@imkool1281]

she has been saying that all her life so it's basically procedural memory by now

[@axolotllover8533]

Ohhhh-OHHHHHHHH

[@nevillemaistry7560]

👋🖐🖖👌🧎‍♀️🙏

[@flexflame2441]

Actually it's a procedural memory because she says it all the time, everytime she meets someone she says it so she will remember, example: she remembers her motto "just keep swimming"

[@kanokarob]

Also she is able to remember she has short term memory loss in the first place. Doesn't sound right.

[@viscoselight23]

When you have short term memory you somehow manage to remember that you have short term memory

[@kanokarob]

That's... A weak response.

[@SleebyRise]

+kanokarob it's a true one.

[@oscaralonso4699]

+Viscoselight23 whats short term memory loss.

[@nekofreekgirl]

+Viscoselight23 she some how remembers it runs in her family

[@alexdati7940]

"true amnesiacs would call Nemo John or Paul or Ringo" Wait a second... Nem o Ring o Hmm

[@janesmith5244]

I see what you mean but amnesiacs can still say it with an "o" at the end as long as its not every name they say, if you forgot somebody's name you would be called a lier for saying the same letter their name ended with. It would be random.

[@alexdati7940]

@@janesmith5244 dude it's a joke, chill

[@mileycyrus7347]

elm o ring o nem o

[@ibukimioda1126]

I was thinking the exact same thing

[@stellanovaluna]

I was looking for this comment!

[@NevadaLamb]

Rewatching a bunch of these during a MatPat binge session. I love how I just accept these theories as fact! 😂

[@sharonbennettchan8273]

Thanks Matpat, I finally know how to malinger anterograde amnesia properly.

[@AliBaba-sw4ej]

I feel like that scene where Dori's parents were making her memorize her phrase of having "Short term memory loss" at the start of the second movie was them brainwashing Dori to THINK she has short term memory loss, and that this whole time she was unconsiously faking her short term memory loss

[@autumns9766]

thats an interesting theory... I like it

[@ジェス日本]

I like it. Seems legit!

[@jaz.niamariefoster7828]

Interesting... I like it!

[@irmaansari265]

amazing... :o

[@_BK_]

But why would the parents do that?

[@lovely_bobbi]

matpat would be a very good detective

[@94Central]

Ya

[@alexandremesquita8592]

Bobbie Vlogs Sherlock pat

[@xavierrick0505]

MatPat Holmes

[@claudiaklausen2364]

MatPat the detective

[@sabrinaw8524]

Xavier Rick Lol

[@Ilovemydogmorethanlife]

I asked myself a question while watching this video and even did a google search to see if any KZbinrs actually did it, and no, not a single one has. The question is: Dory can't speak whale on account of Dentiny the whale shark that she speaks to and claims to have learned whale from. Yet she apparently "speaks" to an actual whale in finding nemo.

[@baalashakya8272]

Matt pat is wayyyy underpaid for all this... Who agrees?

[@JuanRodriguez-es8li]

ME

[@brickstudio8790]

Me

[@brickstudio8790]

Me

[@baalashakya8272]

Brick Studio yep

[@heckme3404]

Depends on the ad revenue

[@marygracesibonga8576]

you missed the chance in saying "fish theory" insted of film theory

[@chunghung7951]

Mary Grace Sibonga in his last video he said no fish puns anymore

[@NeonRahkshi]

instead* lol hi

[@monstertruck5801]

Fin theory

[@bobbydogie1779]

Ha

[@cnc6202]

Mary Grace Sibonga he said no puns in the first part

[@romydvies]

my reference is Johanna Mason from the hunger games because she advertised herself as weak but when it came down to the final few she was a beast with an axe

[@Natalie-ze7ql]

I agree

[@Max-zs7di]

Yes

[@hollysmith7170]

Yes

[@albertsign8575]

was that the district nine savage axe throwing lady?

[@romydvies]

Alsign has no surname yes

[@Tru1Tani]

I love how this was 4 years ago and ZeFrank did come back! He releases videos slower but I am so glad he's back!

[@Arsaroon]

Now I know how to fake sickness like a pro👌😎

[@crispybacon4240]

2:03 Look, it's Nemo! I FOUND HIM!

[@maycieseibert3599]

I say that al the time! 😂

[@SomberYeti]

lol you really found him XD

[@austynlewis6983]

I have a blue tang a clown fish because I have a tropical fish tank not even a joke of cause because I was 9 when I got them I called them dory and nemo and just a random fish Marlin plus I am getting another clown fish I will call it Marlin Lel I am 13 now

[@crispybacon4240]

Jet Gamer That was an incoherent mess...

[@MegaAbomb]

+Jet Gamer what the fuck did you just say

[@cineroar..]

Imagine How Many Malingers Are Going to Use MatPat's Knowledge To Their Advange

[@Idksorrylolzers]

I just wanna see how I would pass the test. I don't wanna fake amnesia or anything

[@_ErzaScarlet_]

MatPat: Teaching everyone that Dory is lying about her amnesia Also MatPat: Teaching everyone how to fake amnesia extremely well

[@hannahmullen4897]

That would mean that Dory is a psychopath. NEMO, RUN!

[@hannahmullen4897]

or.....swim...

[@mattgeczy3687]

And keep swimming. Just keep swimming...

[@careybase6773]

+Matt Geczy lol😂😂

[@bradly13anderson]

Or that she's just trying to survive, as stated in the video.

[@ricksanchez272]

lol

[@spottydraws]

It makes me happy to see The Film Theorists make awesome videos about random and stupid stuff.

[@aidan9313]

But I still watch

[@JoyousBoyousYT]

Everyone that's hating on Matpat for looking into this to much... *that's the whole point of the channel*. Really, the whole point of this channel is overanalyse stuff for our amusement. It doesn't have to be right, it just has to make a little sense for us to understand his over the top reasoning. So instead of hating on Matpat constantly, just enjoy the ridiculous theory and have a good time...

[@HalMarie]

I shouldn't have been the first to like, it's a very insightful and TRUE comment.

[@emersonrosbough1537]

That's what I'm saying. All of the comments are like, ohh this happened and this also happened so your wrong. I'm glad that people are taking this seriously, but it's for are enjoyment, too.

[@tobybartels8426]

+Emerson Rosbough : Those comments are *also* for entertainment. Don't take them too seriously either.

[@Nickle_King]

Eh. They may be trying to be entertaining, but when you fail at being funny, you run the risk of being insulting. So discretion/valor.

[@JoyousBoyousYT]

Nick K Are you saying his jokes are insulting to you? Because if so, go cry in a corner. And if not, what's your point?

[@Paradox_Prod1408]

Matpat: Dory is faking Short-term memory loss! She shouldn't remember the boat! The writers who didn't research on STML:

[@emilyglenn1797]

MatPat: Tutorials on how to fake anterograde amnesia

[@br41nspitt]

Emily Glenn xD

[@MsTwissy]

Also people with anterograde amnesia should have pretrauma memories that they still remember. They’re just unable to make new ones. Right?

[@yukaritora69]

Yep

[@hungryhikaru]

Obliviate

[@flaminfox08]

good point

[@nmuniz2]

Remember, she said it runs in her family, meaning she has had that since she was born

[@gilliancarman5659]

@@nmuniz2 Didn't MatPat say that anterograde amnesia isn't hereditary?

[@яненавижутебя-и5о]

A fish Wolverine? SOMEONE DRAW WOLVERINE AS A MERMAID *STAT*!

[@robertortega962]

MeowDraws ok

[@яненавижутебя-и5о]

yay :)

[@яненавижутебя-и5о]

:D post teh speedpaint/ finished pic on KZbin?

[@яненавижутебя-и5о]

Ok, that is fine Maybe you can change ur profile pic to it briefly and then tell me?

[@sw3022]

MeowDraws I did!

[@5starspamzzzzz]

I have a theory: dory’s parents told her she had short term memory loss all through her life because they wanted her to be safe. That’s why she always fakes forgetting things. She’s used to being told to fake it til she makes it

[@heartscoffin2665]

theory: during dory’s childhood she got lost and was taken to P. Sherman 32 Wallaby Way, Sydney which is the reason she remember the address and knows how to read because of how many signs with words on them are in the building and all over the park and also seeing/hearing people read the signs helped her distinguish different letters

[@hotfox5842]

Yeah but something could’ve happened to her at birth

[@bdudhsusjsj2147]

Is it just me or does anyone else want to see a move that is actually about “Finding Dory In the Gutter?” Or am I just wired or not socialized with other people who have watched this video???

[@addisonlopez7419]

I wish they would be a real move but Disney probably wouldn't want to do th at for the children

[@nightorchid5031]

weird*

[@gigikju9934]

Addison Lopez it’s not the FIRST time kid movies used drug/alcohol in their script, watch Mats other vid on zootopia “bunny on crack”

[@stellanovaluna]

Pretty sure you’re “wired” XD

[@thisisacryforhelpimtrapped7005]

Matpat I agree with you but when dory said 'I saw a boat" she was probably saying that to make marlin feel better bcz she's nice on the outside

[@Cynthiagirouard]

In Finding Dory, the newer movie, it shows what happened before Marlin found him. A boat, the one that took Nemo specifically, passed her.

[@theodorebelov5752]

you are not a savage you n0ob

[@miamontavon3680]

Theodore Belov you should not call him/her a noob

[@itsriivan]

Either way, that still proves her as a liar

[@jonquintana1]

I wrote finding nemo and finding dory. You figured it out. Finally someone who understands my writing.

[@slotfiller5995]

You editing dorys face is actually scary

[@kk_cats6072]

Yes

[@na_gito_ko_mae_da]

I know, right? It actually scared me a lot.

[@waffles3463]

YES

[@AgathaChristania]

Everytime i see that picture, i feel like she's staring into my soul like she craves it

[@billciphergirl6049]

Time stamp?

[@TBomb15]

i love how every kids movie you theorize about turns it into some dark and twisted psychological fairy tale.

[@TBomb15]

Like the little mermaid who committed suicide by tossing herself into the ocean and dissolving into foam. See, I know about the origins of fairy tales too. But point taken. The most common use of fairy tales in the past was parables in order to coerce children to behave properly, thus the dark ending to most of them. "happily ever after" never happened in the original versions.

[@tacticalcactus2845]

"Hey diddle diddle, The cat and the fiddle, The cow jumped over the moon. The little dog laughed, To see such fun, And the dish ran away with the spoon." Dad? *Yes Son?* What have you been smoking?

[@scoobertdoobert3132]

+sgtrichardl I believe it's called "ring around the Rosie" you dumb ass

[@krillbeans8620]

+Cheya Peel no need to call him/her that, it's just a simple mistake, but it's true, the rhyme is called Ring around the Rosie...

[@rayelyanderperlas2372]

That my friend is how we know the world has gone to shit

[@amynelson7579]

I know it's just a fun fan theory, but it might be interesting to note that amnesia can be triggered by extreme anxiety in those with severe anxiety disorders. Memory loss is yet another symptom of anxiety. This would explain why Dori can remember some things but not others, and why remembering gets more difficult as she feels more and more emotional stress, or even just when she's put to the test (the fish asking her to name animals)... and also why her memory gets better as she feels more and more relaxed and safe and loved. Also, it's important to note that anxiety is not triggered necessarily by things healthy individuals would feel anxiety from (as when Dori meets a shark), but is triggered by moments that might hit past traumatic events (Dori's abandonment issues, why she has trouble remembering the address when Merlin leaves her) and even things that don't really make sense to either a healthy person or the person experiencing anxiety, it just IS a trigger for no noticeable reason. I think it's much more likely that Dori misdiagnosed herself (or her parents misdiagnosed her) as someone with short term memory loss, when in reality she has a complex mental illness that severely affects her ability to function 'normally.' Anxiety disorders are both inherited and also created by traumatic events, and are classified as General Anxiety Disorder, PTSD, Panic Disorder, etc. It's likely that Dori's condition existed from a very young age, and then worsened as she lost her family.

[@amynelson7579]

Dancerkitten 42 LOL! completely didn't notice hahaha

[@merlintucker7329]

Amy Nelson I never left a fish

[@casey1151]

I think she has dissociative amnesia, caused from anxiety too. This shows when she's faced with a shark, she seems to forget that sharks are dangerous. She may just have blacked out that knowledge to feel safer, because that may have been a stress event prior or in the moment. This could explain the "selectivity" of what she forgets.

[@amynelson7579]

Casey oooh very interesting thought

[@hatsuOkisu]

It seems far more likely that she has trauma induced memory recall problems. It could explain why she remembers when she is around Marlin. Because he makes her feel safe and happy. This would alleviate some of the stress on her brain and even out her brain’s chemicals, allowing her neuro-pathways to function more normally. But hey thats just a theory

[@q_likes_bugs]

This is the first time I've watched Film Theory. It was *so* good!

[@roshanfey]

TheStorm Follower welcome to the fandom!

[@rockysingh6550]

What do mermaids smoke? Seaweed.

[@Jaminator-yr8co]

im stealing dis joke because it is SOOOOO GOOD!

[@cherrybee95]

It's so bad it's FANTASTIC

[@islandprincess714]

I get it sea - weed

[@kaishenanigans833]

*hA*

[@deleted-to5di]

Ha

[@tomshere8388]

Her parents are teaching her the defense mechanism in the second movie. Remember? "I suffer from short term memory loss" RESPONSE: "Thats right Thats exactly what you say!" SAY, not HAVE.

[@taliaweiss7780]

O.o

[@AZ-tx5yd]

TomsHere SHOOK

[@shahidajnur]

JUNGSHOOK

[@elizabethwhite1245]

OMG HOW DOES THIS NOT HAVE MORE LIKES 😮

[@christiangranado8774]

SO THEN HER PARENTS SIMPLY TOLD HER TO SAY THAT FOR HER OWN SAFETY????? idk

[@youbros2427]

At 11:07 the helicoprion shown is not actually a shark, Mat being accurate about fiiiiish.

[@trafficjam7559]

0:45 Wouldn't you though? You say it often enough.

[@aaronking2020]

@@luckyguy9059 but he got better at the maze over time

[@silysister4815]

@@aaronking2020 but he still didn't remember it.... what was the point of your comment....

[@jedijacob0411]

Lol in the new movie she totally recognized an octopus, even realizes that he's actually a septopus

[@jedijacob0411]

Rasmusb I know, bur in Finding Nemo she has trouble remembering what an octopus is, but a year later she knows immediately

[@maddietorres7874]

Yeah you are so right and she just so happened to remember her parents and just so happened to remember there names. Also how would she remember marlin and nemo? And she probably just did it for attention.

[@jedijacob0411]

***** But you're missing the point. It's like if I show you a cat, but you say a rat. One year later, I show you the same cat again, and then you say cat. Then you notice the cat has no whiskers, so you say it isn't a real cat. It's the same thing. except the cat is cuter than an octopus.

[@danielvalverde63]

Jacob Nantel

[@draftraiza4550]

+Jacob Nantel lolz ur correct

[@Scarra34]

So basically Dory is a goldfish digger.

[@MilesQuickster]

noice

[@bigmistake3624]

lel

[@lydiavalentino]

Now I ain't sayin she a goldfish digger But she ain't messin with no clown-clownfish

[@samoria7530]

👍

[@hnj0830]

I laughed too hard at that.

[@ahuman5889]

Dory : hey I saw a boat Matpat : THIS IS GROUND BRAKING

[@wooppoomp3881]

MatPat channels is my school now

[@urielreyes2717]

Like a boss

[@evehamouie3892]

Nazli Shasmeen Rahman I

[@e-male896]

Your right this basically a funny quick school because everything is to easy at school

[@elzbietanowak8896]

Nazli Shasmeen Rahman Awesomeeeeeeee!

[@rue9476]

Nazli Shasmeen Rahman haha

[@dilansishta3561]

MatPat: "I've got more evidence in part 2" Me: "Oh fuck you" .... Clicks part 2

[@ssj1k650]

Dilan Sishta XD

[@oliviacruz8957]

This is either true or Disney is just really lazy

[@marcuswhite5264]

it's probably both

[@Tooopper]

Maybe it's true because Pixar is lazy.

[@idontmakevieosdudes]

It wasn't even disney

[@Tooopper]

idontmakevieosdudes Oh yeah. It's Pixar. I reflexively said Disney since it was said in the original post. Oops. I blame the OP for making the mistake first.

[@M.M.Y.B]

Or, even though Dory's main character trait is short term memory loss, she needs to be able to remember some things to move the plot along. The instance where she cannot remember the names of the fish allow for Marlin to show his personality, and the shark instances would more commonly be seen as repetitive phrasing, not actual meaning.

[@CC9L]

On 8:12 a short term memory loss dude could cheat the system by having captions on

[@zoem736]

It's been one year since this video came out and I made a poem to celebrate this. Since Dory didn't want to be a fish finger. She instead became a malinger. :D

[@pavloverboy]

She couldn't have been a fish finger anyways. As MatPat mentioned, Dory is a blue tang, a very poisonous species of fish.

[@MystralThunder]

Leah Dell'Osso OMG lol

[@jayenidd]

Zoe McCready what

[@reggaw8718]

Lmao

[@lennartweber2228]

Zoe this poem deserves a reward :D

[@kryzai9302]

Teachers should just let us watch theories like this in school, we would learn more

[@xxtaylorlpsxx2983]

Little Neko and game theory

[@lilaryan5396]

Little Neko it would be more like we would learn about the two types of amnesia and the effects

[@nervousegg4458]

RIGHT HERE!!

[@Hello-rt3ll]

Krystal Melody you are soooooooooooooooo right

[@deadstaredfox5814]

yees

[@toemash6816]

also she says her memory loss runs in the family but in finding dory her parents dont have it...

[@cassidy4898]

thomas ruttledge she said "...I think?" In the movie though

[@mylazalaznik3411]

great point, but we don't no many people in dory's family, that i know we only see dory parents. But of coruse matt patt said that it can't run though family. That is what i heard from him.

[@bacwithkendal2064]

I’d also like to point out that Dory remembering the boat from Finding Nemo is one of the key factors that keeps the plot progressing. By remembering the boat and the *direction* it was going in *throughout the whole movie* Dory helped Marlin significantly. But there are three things wrong here: 1. As discussed in both videos Dory shouldn’t remember the boat 2. Dory also shouldn’t remember the direction the boat was going in 3. Even if Dory remembered the boat and direction *once* by some miracle, she should’ve forgotten at some point

[@necromancer147]

nobody: Dory: is playing Jepardy also Dory: I'll buy a vowel 3:47

[@Rainfire-forgets-to-animate]

It's intended to demonstrate how stupid dory is pretending to be

[@natashakobelsky6899]

she can't have fire in her eyes, because she's underwater.

[@dawny6625]

i think it is just a image that says i have an evil intent

[@cat5220]

Well fish can't speak English either, so..........

[@icekrieg6953]

There is a type of fire that can stay underwater, not sure what it's called though.

[@peachesdontsuckyoudo5052]

Natasha i have a friend called Natasha

[@natashakobelsky6899]

PeachyyPeach 77 Oh. That's cool.

[@eoatthearcade9192]

(COUGHS INTENSELY) BABY DORY (COUGHS)

[@whalecat8049]

NO! IT WAS ALL PART OF THE MATRIX

[@WhoStoleMyNachos]

This theory came out before finding dory.

[@eoatthearcade9192]

Either way, finding dory disproves it.

[@hakudoushinumbernine]

i agree, i want a part three to this because of it.

[@OneWhoDreamsAwake]

This should have way more likes.

[@elpayaso8387]

I like how he says "They would not know it ends with a o" But then proceeds to say ringo in 10:00 10:03

[@briannavarrete49]

Film Theory: how many days was Bill Murray stuck on Groundhog Day?

[@JurassicProductions]

According to the producers he was reliving the amount of 10 years worth of days.

[@oliviavreeland7784]

Yassss

[@Frog_Puppet]

That was just Harold Ramis's estimate, It was later figured to be about 44 years.

[@JurassicProductions]

+Orange Peel That's even worse!!!!

[@acegrimm5870]

+Teddy Bear Talks you forgot about leap years

[@anniemcgill4749]

In Dory’s defense, she said “I’ve seen A boat”, not “ I’ve seen the boat that took Nemo away”, she could have seen a boat before her “ anterograde amnesia” Edit: still believe this theory

[@iwatchyt]

but she wouldn't remember it because she didn't repeat to herself over and over

[@therealking6202]

But then she says "it went this way!" She was talking about that specific boat.

[@anniemcgill4749]

The Real King ok, good to know

[@hotfox5842]

But she didn’t know who Nemo was

[@steelpump100]

Fluffy Rage that is really irrelevant. Marlin said "have you seen a boat" and dory said yes

[@HerrMeier007]

Thanks for explaining me how to fake amnesia! I could use this every once in a while!

[@ta0ji]

-_-

[@Mallow_0623]

XD Hehehe yes XD

[@Lomein719]

The more you know

[@Tizianodepauw]

I was thinking the same thing... I think.

[@paint9755]

I actually faked amnesia in 5th grade to avoid doing work for the day, it "magically" came back by the time the bus showed up, I was a huge dick, I faked a lot of stuff to get out of doing work.

[@cathygrandstaff1957]

Dory, faking inability to remember names: keeps calling Nemo the wrong name. Me, who has trouble remembering names: it’s amazing how easy it is to have conversations without ever mentioning anyone’s name. Literally everyone who I’ve ever met who has trouble with names covers it by finding ways to avoid saying someone’s name, if you don’t call someone by their name they never have to find out you can’t remember it.